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Zoe Saldana (2:36)

You have the right to remain silent.

Morgan Baggot (2:39)

Anything you say can and will be.

Zoe Saldana (2:41)

Used against you in a court of law.

Morgan Baggot (2:44)

You have to write to an attorney prior to or during any question. If you can't afford one, the court will want one for you. Do you understand your rights?

Woody Overton (2:59)

And the wolf is at your door you running over that's for sure.

Zoe Saldana (3:10)

Already.

Woody Overton (3:11)

Knows all about you.

Zoe Saldana (3:17)

Cut you down.

Woody Overton (3:18)

No matter about you now you better.

Zoe Saldana (3:24)

Watch the.

Morgan Baggot (3:29)

Real warning this episode of.

Zoe Saldana (3:47)

Real Life Real Crime.

Morgan Baggot (3:49)

The podcast may contain descriptions of acts of violence or that of a sexual nature and should be people that are 18 years or older. He my warning people, I do not get the facts of these cases off of the Internet or from some television show. The facts I'm retelling you were presented to me by the victims of the crimes or the perpetrators who committed the crimes against the victims. My descriptions of the crime scenes, what I saw with my own two eyes and if you're going to get offended, please turn this podcast off now.

Zoe Saldana (4:28)

Thank you. Hello everybody and welcome to this episode of Real Life Real Crime, the podcast. As always, I'm your host Woody Overton and today is the day we begin the next hashtag justice4 and y' all this case before I disclose it, I tell you, you know all you lifers and all the people around the world that messaged me about their families cold cases and begged me to take them and some of you send a lot more information to others and and I get that and I, I and I know some of you can be mad because I didn't choose your case or a lot of you be mad. But maybe one day and I'm going to explain in a minute why I took this case and you'll understand it as we dived into this case what's happening, what's going on but I apologize ahead of time that I have to be moved. I have to be in the right place, the right state of mind Something has to kick in for me to. In this case, ultimately, I got pissed off and that. Not that your cases don't piss me off also, but. So just stick with me one family at a time, as always. Hashtag justice for Haley. She. The new district attorney has taken the case. They're reinvestigating it. That's all we could ask for, right? And then use media coverage, etc. Of course, we hashtag justice Courtney.

Morgan Baggot (6:03)

Courtney.

Zoe Saldana (6:04)

We. We solved it. He's doing life, right? Hashtag justice for Mary P. Show. Well, he played out to 60 years, right? Hashtag just for Ms. Barbara. Well, y' all know the story on that one. That's the white. The white. Wh. If you will, could please keep calling in your tips on her. Me knowing what happened and being able to prove it beyond a reasonable doubt. Or. Or actually two different things. And this Monday, I'm actually recording an episode with Sheriff Hard on miss Barbara. Kind of an update deal.

Morgan Baggot (6:40)

So that being said, without further ado.

Zoe Saldana (6:44)

We'Ll go ahead and give you the name of the case now and just hashtag justice for Bradley. And Bradley's last name is Stracer. Okay. And. But for reasons that we've learned in the past, for the. We want to want everybody's tag this case when you post about it, when you mention it. And you're going to believe me, you're going to be so pissed when you hear all the stuff that's happened, hadn't happened, et cetera. And this is a wild and crazy case. But for expediency and ease, we're going to hashtag justice for Bradley. But it's Bradley Str. With that being said, I have in the new studio today, hopefully we won't have any technical difficulties. So it's hashtag justice for Bradley. His last name is Strasner. And in the new studio today, hopefully we won't have any more technical issues. I have with me Ms. Morgan Baggot. Is that right? Yes, correctly. And so say hi to the world.

Woody Overton (7:59)

Hello to the world. The whole wide world.

Zoe Saldana (8:02)

See all the. This first episode, we're going to talk about how Morgan and I, Morgan and I became acquainted and everything else. But this story, Morgan, it even has a unique twist on her as to why you're the one that's fighting so hard, right?

Woody Overton (8:21)

Yes.

Zoe Saldana (8:22)

For. And so we're going to get into all of it. Y' all stick with me. You know, I got to tell the story the way I need to tell it. And this one is like an elephant. And how do you Eat an elephant one bite at a time. Right. But I'm gonna tell you this and I'll say it again at the end of the show. We're gonna work this case. And do I believe it's solvable? Absolutely. The. And guess what the, the y' all. And we'll get into the details in a minute but Bradley and my professional opinion is has been murdered and throwing this out there because I know the murderers are listening and this is going to be blown up everywhere. We know that and. But the murderers are listening you. We're coming for you. I'm coming for you. And one, you should be very afraid.

Morgan Baggot (9:12)

The best thing you can do, go.

Zoe Saldana (9:14)

Turn yourself in now because out of.

Morgan Baggot (9:16)

All the cases I've taken, this is.

Zoe Saldana (9:18)

Going to be punch you in your mouth. Because I'm coming hard. All right? And so life will stick with me. And we're going to get started on the story. So Ms. Morgan drove all the way in from Leesville basically, huh?

Woody Overton (9:36)

Yeah.

Zoe Saldana (9:38)

Which if y' all, if you're not from Louisiana, it's just about as far away from me as you can get. Right. Would it take you like four hours almost?

Woody Overton (9:47)

Yes.

Zoe Saldana (9:47)

Yeah. And then you had some car trouble and everything else. New battery then I've done a lot of work over there for Polk and stuff. So I know where it is. And y' all, it's on kind of on the Texas border and about midway in the state. As far west as you can go. Almost. Right.

Woody Overton (10:05)

So they call us West Central, but.

Zoe Saldana (10:07)

Right, yeah. Well that's a. That's an apt name for it. So the mostly piney woods.

Woody Overton (10:14)

His hatchet forest. Yeah. And right in the middle of it.

Zoe Saldana (10:17)

Right. And then Fort Polk of course will be the main. I would guess the main employer in that area. Burning Paris.

Woody Overton (10:24)

Most definitely. Yeah.

Zoe Saldana (10:25)

And y' all, we're going to be talking about Burning parish almost non stop. So it's not a real populous area. Not a lot of people. I mean it's compared to say give or take issue or East Baton Rouge or something like that.

Woody Overton (10:40)

48000 is approximately in the whole parish. It's a very large parish in size, very low in population.

Zoe Saldana (10:47)

Right. Very rural as far as population. I guess that 480004 POG is the.

Woody Overton (10:52)

Majority of that probably. Yes.

Zoe Saldana (10:54)

So all right, so where are you from?

Woody Overton (10:58)

Right there. Pitkin, Louisiana have a Pitkin address. But they just kind of stuck us somewhere because really I live in a community called Marlow and it's about six miles from the military base which is where I also work. Born and raised right there.

Zoe Saldana (11:14)

Born and raised in Burnham Parish. And can I say how we talk about how old you are? You look young. I guess that would be offensive. Y' all go check out our YouTube. This will be up on. On YouTube also, but go ahead.

Woody Overton (11:32)

I'm 32 years old. I feel older.

Zoe Saldana (11:34)

You look. You look young.

Woody Overton (11:35)

I've lived 100 lifetimes.

Zoe Saldana (11:37)

Yeah, unfortunately, these kind of cases do that, so. So you grow up in Burnham Parish, and at some point you meet Bradley.

Woody Overton (11:47)

Bradley, yes.

Zoe Saldana (11:48)

Bradley Strayster. Right. So how did, how did that happen?

Woody Overton (11:52)

Well, I had actually met Bradley when I was a young girl, like, you know, like 12, 13 years old. He was friends with my older cousins, who. They're all four years older.

Zoe Saldana (12:05)

He was the cute boy. Whatever. He's your first boyfriend.

Woody Overton (12:08)

No, he was not. He was actually the second boyfriend ever. I married, the second boyfriend I ever had. But, you know, so I'm a little girl swimming in my grandma's pool, and my friends are crazy over my cousins, and I'm crazy over my friend, my cousin's friends, you know, and.

Zoe Saldana (12:24)

Which is Bradley.

Woody Overton (12:26)

Bradley is. And it's just a little girl crush at that point, you know, and then time rocks on. And fast forward to I'm graduating high school and now I'm 18. No, they were four years. He was four years older than me. My cousins are four years older than me. And so when you're 12 and 13, four years older, that's a big deal. But when you're 18, you know, so. So.

Zoe Saldana (12:50)

So you're graduating from high school.

Woody Overton (12:52)

Yep. And, well, I was sitting, you know, just the backwoods story. I was sitting at my aunt's bar on the back porch, and Bradley pulled up and walked in.

Zoe Saldana (13:07)

Yeah.

Woody Overton (13:08)

And he stopped and looked at me, said, oh, my God, you're Ben's little cousin. And I was like, yep. And literally that was all she wrote for the next seven years we were together.

Zoe Saldana (13:20)

Wow. So tell me how it started. At night or.

Woody Overton (13:27)

Uncensored. You know, we. We. We drink beer together. We went riding in the woods together, and he was staying at his boss's house, and he somehow talked me into going back to his boss's house with him.

Zoe Saldana (13:42)

Right.

Woody Overton (13:43)

But, you know, so. So we're like, snuggled up and. And you know, of course, him being Bradley, who he was, he's so good looking and a typical man trying to get in my pants. And I'm a good girl, you know, really, truly to God, I was a good girl. And I was like, no, sir, no Sir.

Zoe Saldana (14:04)

You know, y' all dated.

Woody Overton (14:07)

Yeah, we dated. We dated. I met his parents. His daddy has loved me so much since day one. One time, that man squeezed my whole cheek. Was his name Mr. Sam? Papa Sam. That's what me and my little boy call him. Okay, Papa Sam.

Zoe Saldana (14:21)

So Papa Sam. And what's his mama's name?

Woody Overton (14:24)

His mother's name is Tony. And Bradley has a stepmother named Karen who's married to Papa Sam, and we call her Nana.

Zoe Saldana (14:31)

Cool. And. And so y' all date and, you know, it progresses, and at some point, get married, or you get something about getting engaged or married. How.

Morgan Baggot (14:44)

How about.

Woody Overton (14:46)

He was working a job down in New Orleans, and I had never really traveled anywhere alone, but I took off down there in my little red Mitsubishi Gallant, and I went to stay with Bradley against my mother's wishes, against my whole family's wishes, I was going to be with him. And he asked me to marry him down there. And, yeah, of course I said yeah. So I. He walked through the door of the place we were staying one day, and he just stopped at the door, and I was standing across the room, and he pointed at me, and he said. Literally this was from out of nowhere. He said, you're pregnant.

Zoe Saldana (15:31)

What?

Woody Overton (15:31)

And I was like, no, I'm not. And he's like, yes, you are. And I said, bradley? Yes, Bradley. Bradley, yeah. Walks in from work, and I'm just like, whatever. No, I'm not. And he. He. Bradley kept on and kept on for days telling me that. And, you know, it would have been easy to go get a test, but I was that sure that I was not pregnant, and so I just didn't. So I meet him one day for lunch, and I'm gonna head home, and I wanted to eat at this Chinese place. We eat Chinese. I get on the interstate, 20 minutes, I'm pulling over on the side of the interstate, sicker than I've ever been. So violently projectile vomiting, right? I called him, and I was like, look, I guess I'm going to take a test when I get home, because I'm like, I can't leave. I'm so sick. So I make it the rest of the way home. I take six tests, because, you know, after the first two, you got to keep trying to get a negative one. And I was pregnant.

Zoe Saldana (16:37)

And what year was that?

Woody Overton (16:40)

2013. We actually got married while I was pregnant, right before I had Oliver. We got married January 1, 2013. I had Oliver February 19, 2013.

Zoe Saldana (16:54)

Wow. So there you go. And where was Oliver born?

Woody Overton (16:58)

Oliver was born in Deridder just at a hospital up the road from my house. So.

Zoe Saldana (17:04)

And so you showed me a picture earlier. You're in the hospital bed with Oliver and Bradley's leaning over the bed with you. The what was Bradley's reaction? Oliver being born?

Woody Overton (17:19)

He when the day that we found out Oliver was a boy, Bradley actually jumped up in the ultrasound room. Like, he just jumped up. I think he probably would have had a similar reaction if it was a girl. But he threw his hands up in the air and he cried and he rubbed my belly and he smiled at me and he was so excited.

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Zoe Saldana (26:14)

You know, I think every dad my first was, was a girl. But every dad secretly wants a boy so they can have a hunting buddy and a fishing buddy and whatever. But. So he's very excited and you know, go through the pregnancy and Oliver comes. Where'd you get the name Oliver?

Woody Overton (26:35)

Oliver is named after my great grandpa and we're old country music fans, you know. So his name is Oliver Whelan. And we had been through my man, so many names. So many names. And we had one picked out and. But I thought of Oliver Whan one day and I called Bradley. He was on the road working again and I was like, look, I got one more name. He's like, but I thought we already picked and I can't even remember what we picked. I was like, well, we did, but I think you're going to like this one. And I said it. Oliver Whelen. And he said that's it. I love it. Don't call and tell me no more names. I love it. Where? That's the one.

Morgan Baggot (27:15)

That's awesome.

Woody Overton (27:15)

And so we went with that.

Morgan Baggot (27:17)

Sorry, some questions about Bradley.

Zoe Saldana (27:21)

Where was he born?

Woody Overton (27:22)

Bradley was born in Deridder, another burning parish. Well, Deridder is a neighboring parishes. But regard.

Zoe Saldana (27:30)

Well, how about west Louisiana parish?

Woody Overton (27:33)

Yep, West Central.

Zoe Saldana (27:35)

The west central parish. And so he's born there. We. You told me who his parents were and for the record, you actually. Because a lot of podcasters was just jumping and for numbers or whatever, but you actually told them that you were going to be doing this.

Woody Overton (27:55)

Well, we did in a roundabout way. We just didn't tell them who. So now the world knows and.

Zoe Saldana (28:01)

And that's okay. But I'm a. I'm a victims advocate. Right. For the families, you know, even though sometimes family members are ones that are involved.

Woody Overton (28:10)

So many people guessed you Woody, by the way.

Zoe Saldana (28:12)

Yeah, they. I wanted to keep it on the wraps for obvious reasons. We need time to prepare. I need time to do more deep dive and figure out things and you gave me that time graciously and I appreciate it. I know it had to be hard for you.

Morgan Baggot (28:26)

He said Bradley's born into Ritter, grows.

Zoe Saldana (28:29)

Up, they graduate from school.

Woody Overton (28:33)

He went he went to school between Rose Pine and Evans. A lot of people in. In between in those areas know him. West Central, That's. Yeah. Evans is actually as close to the Texas state line in our area as you can get before you cross over to Texas.

Zoe Saldana (28:49)

How far are you to leave a bend?

Woody Overton (28:52)

About 40 minutes, 40, 45 minutes.

Zoe Saldana (28:55)

So he goes to school there, and then at some point he. He goes to work.

Woody Overton (29:02)

He. He went to a welding school and then he started welding. Yes, sir. He. He worked for a local. It's called Parker Steel and Supply. And they're fabulous people, wonderful people. They. They love Bradley so much and they think a lot about him. I talk to them fairly often and they always want to know about. About Bradley, but he worked there for a long time.

Zoe Saldana (29:25)

All right, so then we'll get into that part in just a minute. So he worked there for a long time and then this is it that. When y' all were together yet?

Woody Overton (29:37)

We were together, yes. He worked there before and after.

Zoe Saldana (29:40)

All right, so. And at some point he leaves there. You were married for seven. How many years?

Woody Overton (29:47)

We were together for seven years. You know, I can't even remember if we divorced in the summer of 15 or 16. It's crazy how. What time does. To a memory, but.

Zoe Saldana (29:57)

Right, but. So let me tell a story. Correct. So you're married, you have Oliver, and he's working the. At some point, sugar starts to turn a little bit. Yeah, we're gonna get this. First of all. We're not gonna lie.

Woody Overton (30:17)

No.

Zoe Saldana (30:17)

We're not gonna sugarcoat anything.

Woody Overton (30:18)

We're not here to do that.

Zoe Saldana (30:19)

That's exactly right. At some point. Now, first of all, before we get that, what was the favorite thing that Bradley had you go for?

Woody Overton (30:30)

Really? That man loved my. He loved anything. He. Both of our favorite meals was like, what? I'm. What am I trying to say? So it's rice and gravy. It's hamburger round steak.

Zoe Saldana (30:43)

Yeah.

Woody Overton (30:43)

And rice and gravy. And probably black eyed peas, Mac and cheese, cornbread, and the boy could eat.

Zoe Saldana (30:50)

There you go. So.

Woody Overton (30:52)

And again. Oh, my Lord. If I baked a cake for. For dessert.

Zoe Saldana (30:56)

There you go. So y' all hear my accent. Totally different area of Louisiana from her accent, which I'm listening to, which is really almost Texas.

Woody Overton (31:05)

Also the fact that said cornbread.

Zoe Saldana (31:07)

Yeah, well, but I just heard it for the first time. So. Yeah. You're married. You're both young. How old are you when you're married? It's 25, 10 years of your young 20s, right?

Woody Overton (31:22)

13. So he was born in 89, I was born in 93. Yeah, 20. 1989, I was 19 years old is when I got married. He's four years older.

Zoe Saldana (31:34)

Nothing wrong with that. People do it every day. Right. And then so you. You're married, he's working, making, living. Life starts happening at some point. Tell me about Bradley's sliding into the dark area with drugs or whatever it was. Tell me how it progressed.

Woody Overton (31:57)

He just kind of started staying away a lot. You know, he would say, I'll be right back. And eight hours later, you know, he's still not back. Or, you know, of course, it wasn't that long at first, but there was signs, and I know the signs. You know, I've loved family members that had drug issues all my life. I knew. And I was kind of in denial or. And, And I would catch him in small white lies. And then he started to lie even when he didn't have to. And then we started having some pretty serious money issues.

Zoe Saldana (32:40)

Let's talk about said money. I mean, dope has to be bought, right? Drug of choice?

Woody Overton (32:47)

Well, I think it was meth. I know it was meth a lot.

Zoe Saldana (32:51)

But really blowing up, man.

Woody Overton (32:53)

He liked. He liked pills too. If he. Xanax, as I know is. Is another choice of his and say.

Zoe Saldana (33:03)

He'S sliding in at some point, even starts to take money basically away from you and Oliver.

Woody Overton (33:08)

Yes, exactly.

Zoe Saldana (33:10)

And stuff like that. Typical drug addict behavior. Right, But y' all, the, you know, everybody that gets murdered. Not everybody that gets murdered is churchgoing preachers. Right. And. And 98% of the cases I work, narcotics are involved in some way that. What do you. That, you know, narcotics is. Drug addiction is sickness. In the end, it is a learned behavior. It gets out of hand. You think you control it and then you don't. It controls you. But that in no way takes away from the fact that Bradley Strayson was a human being. He was a husband, he was a father, Oliver. And he's a son. His parents. I'm sure he's a friend to many.

Woody Overton (34:00)

He was loved by so many.

Zoe Saldana (34:02)

Any brothers and sisters?

Woody Overton (34:03)

Yes, he has two sisters and one brother. Yeah.

Zoe Saldana (34:06)

Okay. And. But the, you know, people get tired of messing. They. I don't know. And you and I have not talked about this part. But the, you know, you love them and you love them and then that. The behavior goes on. You're praying for change, try to get change, and they'll hit a wall and say, oh, I'm gonna change and whatever you want to believe in it. Then the cycle Starts all over again. They go back, but they're human beings.

Woody Overton (34:36)

I held on. You're exactly right about that, Woody. I held on for far too long. Even after I divorced him, we still kept seeing each other. My family, you were hoping. Yeah. I. I just loved him. I loved him so much. I still do to this day.

Zoe Saldana (34:52)

But you didn't like was the. The addiction.

Woody Overton (34:55)

Yeah, because he was destroying it. It was destroying our family.

Zoe Saldana (34:59)

Absolutely.

Woody Overton (34:59)

In the life that we were supposed to be having.

Zoe Saldana (35:02)

That's exactly the point. Destroying life that you're supposed to be having because you're young, you're working. And he's actually, you know, Welton's is a great trade to have. I mean, and the Is taken away from his daddy time. It's taken away from his Morgan time. But. But tell me this, and I'm gonna. We haven't talked about this. How was he as a father when he was sober?

Woody Overton (35:28)

He was a wonderful father. He had so much patience with Oliver, and Oliver is incredibly smart. Bradley could. Could do anything, build anything. He could figure out anything. And Oliver is so much like his dad. But the time that Oliver spent with him back then, you know, four years old, Oliver's under a hood with. You know, under the hood of a truck with his dad. And Bradley let him do things. He literally put the tools in his hands, and he was patient enough, no matter how many times it took to help Oliver.

Zoe Saldana (36:04)

Yeah.

Woody Overton (36:04)

And I saw that.

Zoe Saldana (36:05)

That's a daddy's love.

Woody Overton (36:07)

Yeah.

Zoe Saldana (36:07)

And. And you just lost your dad every sing, right?

Woody Overton (36:11)

Yes. On May 4th.

Zoe Saldana (36:12)

And I think my daddy also one like the day days I'm looking something. So you lost your dad and I lost mine in the. I got to have mine for a lot longer than you did.

Woody Overton (36:27)

Yeah.

Zoe Saldana (36:28)

Right. And then. Then I think about poor Oliver, you know, what circumstances are, what they are. Bradley's addiction, you know, got the best of them, and I get that. But he sounds like. I mean, you married a good day, right? You dated a good dude and had a good heart. People liked him. He had people. People that loved him. But he had friends and. And he worked and he had good.

Woody Overton (36:57)

Friends and good people. You know, he didn't only have that drug crowd, you know, there were so many people, good people genuinely cared about him.

Zoe Saldana (37:06)

The drug crowd. Friends aren't really your friends. No, they. They. You're all living the same lifestyle, and you. You think that you're super tight and all that. That's this biggest pile of in the world. It's the friends that you. The true friends that you leave behind because you're choosing their narcotics over. And that's just. Unfortunately, that's, you know, that's what happened. But he was a good daddy. And when. Before the Dixon came, when was he a good husband?

Woody Overton (37:32)

Yeah, he was. We had so much fun together.

Zoe Saldana (37:34)

Right.

Woody Overton (37:35)

We loved to do all of the same things.

Zoe Saldana (37:38)

Tell me about just a couple quick ones.

Woody Overton (37:40)

We just fishing all the time, riding in the woods constantly doing anything. You know, if it rains, we're going to see how much the creek rose.

Zoe Saldana (37:49)

Right.

Woody Overton (37:51)

This is a picture of. Looking at a picture right now of him and my baby sister in a garden. Gracie, my sister was our baby before we had a baby.

Zoe Saldana (37:59)

Right.

Woody Overton (38:00)

Gracie went everywhere. And Bradley loved him. Some Gracie. And Gracie loved her. Some Bradley.

Zoe Saldana (38:06)

Yeah. And how old is Gracie?

Woody Overton (38:08)

Gracie is going to be 21 in September, but she was just a little.

Zoe Saldana (38:12)

Girl when we got together. There are a whole lot of people that love Bradley outside of the drug head crowd. Right. The. The. So y' all, again, this. Wait. Got to hear what happens in the story now. I do. I believe Bradley would have ever been murdered had he not been involved in narcotics. Absolutely not. But that's the way God let things work out. And the. But this good dude, you know, worked hard, was a good daddy, and ultimately made some poor choices that sent him in the wrong direction. And y' all got divorced because you'd had enough, right. And then now you're going into got to protect Oliver mode, praying that still that he gets out of it and all that.

Woody Overton (39:06)

I knew I had to take care of me and Oliver, and that was. That was one of the saddest days, was me just finally saying it out loud to myself in my bed. I said, I'm not. I'm not Jesus, and I cannot save Bradley. And that's what I was trying to be was his savior. I was trying. And it was killing me, you know, I was losing myself and not taking as good a care of Oliver as I could have been, you know, so.

Zoe Saldana (39:35)

And I get it. Get it.

Woody Overton (39:38)

Second saddest day was walking into that courtroom to divorce him.

Zoe Saldana (39:42)

Yeah. Well, everything happens for a reason. And unfortunately, that's going to bring us to the next part of the story. So when. When y' all are divorced, did he have any visitations or anything with Oliver or. No. Because of the dope or.

Woody Overton (40:01)

So we divorce. And like I said, either summer of 15 or summer of 16. I think it was 16. And we saw each other off and on the fall of 2017, very last time I ever spent any Time with Bradley. And very shortly after that, Bradley ended up in. In jail. And just tell me about that.

Zoe Saldana (40:23)

What do you.

Woody Overton (40:23)

What do you get that time? I think it was just parole violations. You know, I don't. I don't remember this.

Morgan Baggot (40:31)

They had been arrested before.

Woody Overton (40:33)

Oh, yeah, yeah.

Zoe Saldana (40:34)

When you get into dope life, everybody gets arrested. He had been in and out of charge, so. Okay, let's talk about that. We're not gonna hide anything. And this is a human being struggling with addiction. Was he stealing or did he possession. Tell me some of his charges.

Woody Overton (40:51)

He had some theft charges.

Zoe Saldana (40:53)

Right. He got a supply of the habit.

Woody Overton (40:55)

And he got caught with drugs, you know, a couple of times.

Zoe Saldana (41:00)

And everybody that gets high gets. Because drugs move from point A to B. Whether your user and the cop stops you or you're hauling it, making money or whatever, you're going to get busted sooner or later. Cops only have to get lucky once. You got to get lucky every day. And I'm not. Excuse me. I've rested 10,000 people for dope and for the theft and the different things that this all about.90 of crime all ties back in the day.

Woody Overton (41:32)

Yeah.

Zoe Saldana (41:33)

And some of the best people in the world, they get inside and they get locked up and they dry out, and then they're gonna be straightened. And you see them in the jail because you bring somebody else in the head, like, hey, Mr. Woody, how you doing? Good to see you. Straight. A couple months later, they get out and chase them down the street again.

Woody Overton (41:49)

Yeah, well, when you're using drugs, it gets out of hand quick. You know, you don't lay low and stay out of trouble. It just makes you go crazy.

Zoe Saldana (41:56)

Well, the. I mean, you're. You're in the frequent fire time. I mean, you're in the life where it's. Nothing good is gonna happen. Yeah. And so he's been. He's goes to jail numerous times. Right. For a plethora of different reasons. And so you're saying that. What were you telling me?

Woody Overton (42:21)

Well, just about when after. After the fall of 17, we. We aren't seeing each other anymore. And shortly after that, he. He to jail and he was in for maybe, maybe a year, maybe a little less, and he got out. And a couple of months after he got out, he contacted me. It's 2018 by now, I don't remember which part of the year, but he contacts me and says that he wants to see Oliver. So I said okay. I told him he could, and he had been not around for so long, you know, and I'm thinking about Oliver, and I don't want to make him sad. And this is. This. This is a difficult conversation. This part is. So I told him, yeah. And I went to Walgreens because I had already told him. I said, you're going to be in Oliver's life, and you're going to be doing right, and you're going to be consistent or you're not going to be in it at all. You're not doing this to him. So I went to Walgreens and I bought one of those back then. They're probably 60 by now, but it was $40. $40 drug test. And I showed up to the meeting place with it, and I get a text message, and he says, I'm here. I said, I am, too. Come inside. And he walked in with Oliver's favorite thing in the world, donut holes in a Yoo Hoo. And he looks at me, and he kind of looks around and he says, my heart's beating fast. He says, where's Oliver? And I said I had brought my sister with me, and I left him in my vehicle. And I said, he's in the car and I'll go get him right now. I'll bring him in. You can see him, but first you need to take him pass this drug test. And his face just melted. His shoulders drooped. He dropped his. You know, he had the donut holes up bash test, and he just dropped it. His whole body just slumped. And he said, are you serious? Are you kidding me? And I said, no, Bradley, I'm not. I told you. I told you you're going to be clean and you're gonna be persistent and consistent or not at all. And unfortunately, that is the very last time that I ever laid eyes on Bradley. He set the donut holes in the Yoo Hoo in the seat, and he looked at me and he said, tell my son that I love him. And he turned around and he left. And that's. He knew he couldn't pass the drug test, you know, and then.

Zoe Saldana (45:11)

And he left.

Woody Overton (45:12)

He left. He was gone.

Zoe Saldana (45:13)

And that's the last time you ever spoke to him?

Woody Overton (45:18)

Yeah.

Zoe Saldana (45:18)

Or saw him.

Woody Overton (45:19)

Last time I ever spoke to him or saw him in person. And.

Zoe Saldana (45:29)

Okay.

Woody Overton (45:29)

That's something I'll have to live with.

Zoe Saldana (45:32)

Yeah.

Woody Overton (45:32)

For the rest of my life.

Zoe Saldana (45:33)

You know what? It's okay. I understand that. And. And I feel your pain. But your mama bearing. Okay.

Woody Overton (45:48)

Yeah. I was, you know, just trying to protect Oliver and. And do the right thing. I thought I was doing the right thing.

Zoe Saldana (45:54)

Well, you know, if he fed then clean.

Woody Overton (45:57)

I question myself now, you know, because he wasn't going to leave with Oliver.

Zoe Saldana (46:02)

Right.

Woody Overton (46:02)

What would it have hurt just to see him? But, you know, then Oliver would see him, and he would be happy and excited and want to know when's the next time could he see his daddy and I couldn't tell him that. Lord only knew when the next time we would see him would be.

Zoe Saldana (46:15)

Yeah. And he certainly didn't expect it to be last.

Morgan Baggot (46:19)

And no one ever does.

Zoe Saldana (46:20)

Right. And. And. Wow. Okay, now this is where we're going to really, really start. Hashtag justice for Bradley. You know, it's Bradley's face. The. That's the last time you saw him in person.

Woody Overton (46:41)

Yep.

Zoe Saldana (46:42)

Now, I want you to take. To take me. And we have not discussed this the y' all. This is raw and unscripted. Want you to take me forward in time to certain date. And I want. I want to know, while we're here for Hashtag justice for Bradley, would you get a phone call? Somebody came and saw you. What happened? Tell me. You. You tell the story.

Woody Overton (47:11)

Well, after that day that. That he was supposed to see him, and he did it, and we left. I didn't see him or hear from him, and. And time went on, and I just. I just prayed and I always worried about him. Constantly, I worried. And I was just living my life. I was going to school, I was working. I was taking care of Oliver, and I was hoping and praying that Bradley would clean up. And all the time. And something weird happened to me, you know, come October, for weeks, all of a sudden, I just started thinking so much about Bradley. I couldn't stop thinking about Bradley. Go to bed thinking about him, wake up thinking about him. And I was like, if I see him, I know he wasn't doing well. You know, you hear things. And if I see him, I'm going to stop. I. And I'm going to be like, what the hell are you doing? You know, get in my car. Where do we need to go? What do you want to do? Because this isn't it. And I literally. I never drove through Sandy Hill, but I started driving through Sandy Hill hoping to see him.

Zoe Saldana (48:24)

That's where there he was staying.

Woody Overton (48:26)

He was there a lot. He was seen and heard of in Sandy Hill, and I never saw him. I tried. I tried, but I had made up my mind about that. And I was like, man, why won't I just shake this? I need to just quit thinking about him. But I'm working down in south Louisiana. Sulfur. Long drive from My house. And I went to a co worker's house after work one day. And I'm sitting there, we're playing cards, and my phone rings and it's a friend of mine. And she. The first thing she says when I say hello, I'm excited because I hadn't heard from her in a while. And she says, I'm sorry to hear about Bradley. And immediately I get beside myself and I'm like, what do you mean you're sorry to hear about Bradley? What are you talking about? What are you. And she's like, you haven't heard? And I'm freaking out at this point. Her name's Amanda. I said, amanda heard what? What? Please just say it. You know, I'm thinking she's about to tell me he's dead. And she's like, well, he's missing. And I was like, are you kidding me? I was actually so relieved. I was like, missing. Do you know how many times he's been missing? Like he goes off on a binge or he takes his uncle's truck and skips down for a couple of months. He comes back a week. She know, like, he's gonna turn up, right? And so I don't even talk to any of. She says. She literally says, well, okay, if you're not worried. I guess I'm like, no, girl, he's gonna turn up. Yeah.

Zoe Saldana (50:05)

You get any information or anything?

Woody Overton (50:06)

No, no, I just know Brad. Somebody's looking for him.

Zoe Saldana (50:09)

So, okay, so you get off the phone and what happens? How's the store proceed?

Woody Overton (50:17)

I'm not. I'm not too worried.

Zoe Saldana (50:19)

Same. Yeah, same drug addict behavior, right?

Woody Overton (50:22)

I don't even call his family. Like, I don't he. Through the whole time, I stayed in contact with his family, whether Bradley and I were talking or not, but. Well, with his dad. But after a couple of days, you know, I'm not really hearing anything other than people messaging me, you know, hey, what's going on? What's going. I don't know. I was so out of contact with him. I don't know.

Zoe Saldana (50:47)

So I started saying, I messaged you say, what's going on, Brad?

Woody Overton (50:50)

Yeah, just random people, you know, because they're. They're seeing the whereabouts ad for him, you know, So I finally decide, okay, guess I already call and we start talking. I start talking to his dad, start talking to his uncle, start talking to his cousin.

Zoe Saldana (51:07)

And what are they saying?

Woody Overton (51:09)

Same thing as me, you know, wait, he's going to turn up all the time. He's gonna turn up, you know, he stayed away from his dad when he wasn't doing well. He was so ashamed. And he didn't want to disappoint his dad that bad. So, you know, that wasn't nothing new for him.

Zoe Saldana (51:22)

He's a human being and.

Woody Overton (51:27)

Time rocks on. And we there. There comes a point where we start getting worried because eventually somebody hears from Bradley, you know, when he. He goes off.

Zoe Saldana (51:39)

Oh, you talking about not this time?

Woody Overton (51:41)

No, not this time. But eventually.

Zoe Saldana (51:43)

But I always say in the cases that run, but they always come back home. So safe place. Or they reach out to someone who's safe. But not in this case. Crickets. Right.

Woody Overton (51:56)

Where he would usually be calling his Uncle Clifford, who helped him almost more than anybody. Uncle Clifford hasn't heard from him. That was the most worrisome thing for me. He would every now and then let his dad know, hey, dad, you know I'm doing okay. I would get messages when he would go off one o' clock in the morning number. I didn't know I'd wake up. And he's just saying, tell my son I love him. And I'm just letting y' all know I'm okay. Literally. And. And that's not happening.

Zoe Saldana (52:27)

Right. So it's. At some point the first accident is taken is mom. Paul's Missing Persons.

Woody Overton (52:36)

November 5th.

Zoe Saldana (52:37)

On November 5th. And by this time he's. He's been missing how long?

Woody Overton (52:42)

Well, however, the. The 30th to the October 30th to November 5th to six days.

Zoe Saldana (52:48)

And so she files the missing persons report with Vernon Parish Sheriff's office.

Woody Overton (52:55)

Yes.

Zoe Saldana (52:56)

And what happens?

Woody Overton (52:59)

They. They put out, you know, looking for Bradley Straisner. He's looking for welfare concern.

Zoe Saldana (53:07)

Yeah. Safety check. But in their minds, to be honest, you know, if I'd have got it and a small place like that. Burn Parachute's house. I don't know how many deputies they have. It can't be that big. They're going to know who Bradley is that they would have wrestled him for. They know he disappears time. So they're like, okay, we humor you and take your report. But it is not. We're not. They weren't looking at it as a homicide investigation or whatever.

Woody Overton (53:37)

Yeah, right. Not at that point. They, you know, but his mom was very, very, very worried. She was more worried worried than anybody did.

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Woody Overton (59:36)

I didn't talk to her for a while after that. Her and I weren't as close as Bradley's father and I. But when we finally talked, you know, she was just saying, you know, it's getting cold, and he left my house in shorts, and he wouldn't stay gone without talking to me.

Zoe Saldana (59:56)

Okay, the. Let's back up to that. The. So the last person that's on the record, or is his mama seeing him.

Woody Overton (60:09)

Leave the house, his mother and two other individuals that also lived in Sandy Hill.

Zoe Saldana (60:16)

Right, let's talk about what. What his mom said about the last time she saw him. And what did he say?

Woody Overton (60:23)

He just told her that he would be back by later. She. She says that he said, bye, mom, and I love you, and. And I'll see you later.

Zoe Saldana (60:31)

Right.

Woody Overton (60:32)

And almost six years later.

Zoe Saldana (60:34)

Well, let's go six days later. First.

Woody Overton (60:38)

Yeah, he.

Zoe Saldana (60:38)

She didn't hear anything from. So at this point, now y' all are starting to worry. His family's starting to worry. You're starting to worry. And Bradley's nowhere to be found. Yes, but what was found?

Woody Overton (60:54)

There was a vehicle.

Zoe Saldana (60:55)

Tell me that he was driving, and how he. How we know that he became. Came to be in possession of the vehicle, and. And where that vehicle ended up.

Woody Overton (61:05)

So he was driving his girlfriend's car, and he was supposed to be returning that vehicle. And Chelsea is his girlfriend's name. She started calling his mother and the other two people that he was supposed to be visiting, and she's saying, hey, you know, it's getting really close to time. I need to get my son, and I need the car. The car is not her car. It's her grandmother's car. And, you know, it's getting later and later, and Bradley is not showing back up in the vehicle.

Zoe Saldana (61:41)

Right.

Woody Overton (61:41)

And so there's communication between the two individuals where he was supposed to be going. Communication between Bradley's mother and the girlfriend. And the last word that Chelsea heard was from the two individuals, he said, he's coming. He's gonna bring the car back. He says, okay, she's calling them because Bradley does not have a phone.

Zoe Saldana (62:07)

Right. And, hey, I would assume these two individuals. I mean, she's gonna be like, I'm gonna report this stolen.

Woody Overton (62:17)

She did say that.

Zoe Saldana (62:18)

And. And I was just guessing because I worked these cases, and that it might have been a crack loan or a meth loan or whatever. They give me the car for the day, Here's a bump for you or whatever. And I'm not saying that's what the case was, but obviously Bradley had possession of the vehicle. He doesn't have a phone. Chelsea's reaching out, like, hey, I'm about to call the cops, report stolen, because you're not gonna leave me. Not picking up my daughter, and my grandmother's gonna, you know what? Whatever. That shit's gonna happen. And these two individuals tell Chelsea that Bradley said he's bringing the car back.

Woody Overton (63:01)

Yeah. That they're relaying, you know, the message.

Zoe Saldana (63:04)

Chelsea never talked to him.

Woody Overton (63:06)

No.

Zoe Saldana (63:06)

She's just getting a relayed message. And then what happens with the car?

Woody Overton (63:10)

Well, what she was afraid of was that her family also was going to report the car missing.

Zoe Saldana (63:17)

Yeah.

Woody Overton (63:18)

She needs to get her son, and she doesn't want to do that.

Zoe Saldana (63:21)

Right.

Woody Overton (63:22)

So when he doesn't show up, she had no choice but to tell them. There's some individuals that live up the road at a dead end from the house that he was visiting. They pull out of their driveway to go to town, and there's this random vehicle sitting there, and it's backed up to a gate. The gate's closed, the keys in it. And they're like, that's weird. There's nobody that lives back there but them.

Zoe Saldana (63:52)

Right.

Woody Overton (63:53)

They go to town, and they're gone all day. And they come back, and the car's still there. So at that point, they decided to call the sheriff's office, and they said, hey, there's this car just sitting here. It seems a little suspicious. Y' all should come check it out. Well, in the meantime, Chelsea's family had already reported the car stolen. So when they get that call and go see the car, boom, 29.

Zoe Saldana (64:20)

That's. That wasn't it. So the deputy response, they run the license plate.

Woody Overton (64:25)

Yeah.

Zoe Saldana (64:25)

Get the alert. Stolen vehicle.

Woody Overton (64:29)

And. And they call. They call the family and say, hey, we know where your car is, and you can come and pick it up. Now, this is. This is October 31st. That the car is picked up.

Zoe Saldana (64:42)

And this is. So that's still five days before mama reports.

Woody Overton (64:47)

Before the report.

Zoe Saldana (64:48)

So the. They come pick up the car. No Bradley. Chelsea never hear some Bradley. You don't hear Bradley's parents don't hear from Bradley?

Woody Overton (65:06)

No.

Zoe Saldana (65:06)

Oliver doesn't hear from Bradley.

Woody Overton (65:08)

No.

Zoe Saldana (65:09)

The. No one hears from Bradley. And this is October 31, 2019.

Woody Overton (65:19)

2019.

Zoe Saldana (65:23)

No Bradley.

Woody Overton (65:24)

No.

Zoe Saldana (65:25)

Where's Bradley. All right, lifers, we're going to end this episode because it's been an hour. The want you to get a taste. Bradley Strasner, human being. The father, the husband, the son, the friend, the worker. Human being. Real dude, real guy. I'm sitting there looking at his pictures and he's loved, right? Narcotics addiction happens. No one should be having it like this. Morgan driving all the way across the state to come record Bradley Stracer story and open this case the way it should be open. And we're gonna handle it the way it should be handled. But no one deserves to go through that. And we're going to need everyone to like and share, share, share, share, share these episodes. And yes, I'm going to open a tip line. And that tip line, y' all, as in the past cases that we solved together, the tip line. You can remain totally anonymous or you can give me all your I don't care. I do not have to report it to law enforcement. I'm no longer a member of law enforcement. You can tell me anything you want to tell me. Could be anonymous, but I'm going to look into every single tip. I'm gonna flip every rock and I'm gonna work every lead until either I get off of it because I disproved it or I'm gonna stay on it because I can't get off of it. And that's called work in a case. And then. And y' all, there's so much more that we'll get into on the next episode that happens in this case. And you're going to die when you hear, I mean, the. There are a lot of things that happen that are very unusual in out the box on a case like this. But then. And I was like, yeah, that's really interesting and I think we could do something with this. But there was one night around midnight, I was laying in bed and I'd gone on like a three hour Bradley stracing trip. And in the watching every news article and everything else and I'm there's a lot. There's a lot. And in watching all of Morgan Baggot's tick tocks, it's under where's Bradley Stryston? Right? Yes, the but and then, then I just hit a certain point. I was like, what the and and then I just started messaging Morgan in the middle of the night. I said it was long text. I said, I hope you're sleeping and getting rest. I said, now I'm pissed and this is ridiculous. And I said, do not tell Anybody. I'm coming but I'm coming. And don't tell anybody we're taking this on. I need some time to work things out. It's been a couple weeks by Morgan. A couple weeks ago that text and. And so and I needed more time to get into it and Morgan I've been communicating non stop and and there's.

Morgan Baggot (68:57)

Just so much to the story.

Zoe Saldana (68:58)

You've got every story. It's not like it's competition, right? Corny Coco's or Mary Pushos or Ms. Barbara's or Haley's or whatever. Every story is different. This one has more twists and turns than you could ever believe and including other murders. Okay. And. And believe it or not, I don't like to do it. I believe blue been a cop my whole life. We got some cop shit we got to deal with and. And I don't choose fight these battles Sometimes people are so stupid that these battles have to be fought and yes you're all going to get pissed off but I need you to please continue to listen and share share Hashtag justice for Bradley everywhere every every post when you start commenting Hashtag justice for Bradley. Now when you go to Morgan's. Tick tock Morgan. I don't. I don't know how all that really works. I know I you know have a pretty big following but the. You did a. A video in the last since we've been. I told you I was going to take the case. We did a video hinting that was coming out and he got over 200 some thousand views in a couple days.

Woody Overton (70:20)

Right.

Zoe Saldana (70:21)

So people are. Bradley made his choices the. The. The drug choices and. But it still is a human being and I'm telling you Bradley is deader. And I hate to be crude but I'm just gonna say he's dead or because he is my professional opinion the. And they. Oh just wait. I just wait. But. But to the people who did it. Best thing you can do to turn your ass in now. All right. It's not going to stop and you don't know who's going to flip on you. I already have tons and tons and tons and tons of information but one by an elephant at a time. Ms. Morgan, thank you for sharing your story. This is exactly why I don't script shut I don't want to know ahead of time your story about the last time you saw him. Holy.

Woody Overton (71:20)

You had never heard that before.

Zoe Saldana (71:22)

No I. I did never heard before and and you know stuff like that. I didn't know I knew where the car was found But I know that they had driven out and seen and came back later on. It's all the stuff, and I think that makes for a better story. And y' all, I'm. When I say that, I mean, get you invested. All the life was invested in Bradley Stracer. Hashtag justice for Bradley. And I love and appreciate each and every one of y' all. Morgan, thank you for being here. We're actually just gonna take a little break.

Woody Overton (71:57)

Yeah.

Zoe Saldana (71:58)

And then we're gonna get back to it again. But thank you for being here. Thank you for being here. And I want to ask you, do you have anything that you want to say?

Woody Overton (72:09)

I. This is really surreal. I have a lot of faith in you. I have a friend that I love dearly. I think on her list, you're next under Jesus. Just if we're being honest. And I'm very thankful to be here. And it's surreal. I do always try to keep my composure, but when I told y' all that little story about the last time I saw Bradley, I can't help it. Sometimes it comes out of my eyes.

Zoe Saldana (72:38)

Is all about being real. Real life, real crime and crying is totally acceptable. All right. And so is anger and everything else. And just. Just. We need that because Bradley had been a good dude and a good father and a good person before he got the addiction, then we wouldn't be sitting here. You didn't have that anger and stuff and built up inside of you and y' all. The next episode, we're going to really start to talk about why after all these years, it's an ex wife, Bradley Str. Who has been carrying this torch and pressing this fight. And it's been a hell of a fight.

Woody Overton (73:18)

It's been a heavy load, and I'm so happy to watch it take a turn with you.

Zoe Saldana (73:22)

Yeah. Well, you know what we're going to do, and we're going to work it. We're going to work it on the podcast. I'm going to work it, and we're going to work it. And those better be. They just go turn themselves in, save us all the trouble, and. And then you get to put your spin on it with the cops. Because when I'm done and I'm going to investigate it correctly with someone who actually knows what they're doing, and we'll get in all that in the end. They better go in and. And try to put their spin on this story before we're done. But we'll get off of that love and appreciate each and every one of y' all. Thank you so much again. Hashtag justice for Bradley. Go on Tik Tok. So just go to Tik Tok and type in where is Bradley Str.

Woody Overton (74:13)

Yes.

Zoe Saldana (74:13)

And you'll see all Morgan's videos and how she's been carrying this torch for all these years. So I love and appreciate each and every one of you. Thank you for liking, listening, sharing. Let's do it, lifers. We can do this. We can bring this case home. Let's get justice. Hashtag justice for Bradley. And I'm Woody Everton. You host your real life Real crime the podcast until next time or ever. Only catch you down Murder by peace.

Morgan Baggot (74:46)

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Zoe Saldana (74:51)

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Morgan Baggot (74:53)

You got to write to an attorney prior to it during any question but you can't afford one.

Zoe Saldana (75:00)

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Morgan Baggot (75:01)

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