Real Life Real Crime | #JusticeForBradley ep 12
Podcast: Real Life Real Crime
Host: Woody Overton
Guest: Morgan Baggott
Release Date: September 6, 2025
Episode Overview
In Episode 12 of the #JusticeForBradley series, Woody Overton and Morgan Baggott deliver explosive new updates regarding the ongoing fight for justice in the cold case murder of Bradley Stracener and the related death of Austin O’Banion in Vernon Parish, Louisiana. This episode focuses on alleged gag orders and non-disclosure agreements (NDAs) imposed by the Vernon Parish Sheriff's Office, the host's legal maneuvers for transparency, continuing evidence of obstruction, and direct messages from a potential suspect in the case. Woody and Morgan also share their mounting frustration with local law enforcement and emphasize their renewed commitment to exposing the truth and achieving justice for the victims and their families.
Key Discussion Points & Insights
1. Strategic Pause and Pot-Stirring
Timestamp: 04:00
- Woody reveals that skipping last week's episode was intentional to "let the pot stir" and observes increased public interest and tips during that break.
- He warns alleged murderers have "enjoyed their last Labor Day outside the wire," hinting at imminent developments.
2. Vernon Parish Sheriff’s Office: Gag Order & NDAs
Timestamp: 06:01 – 17:00
- Morgan and Woody discuss reports that a gag order from Sheriff Sam Kraft prohibited employees from discussing Bradley's and Austin's cases.
- Multiple sources claim employees were forced to sign Non-Disclosure Agreements (NDAs), legally binding them to silence—an extreme and unusual move for a sheriff’s department.
- Woody outlines how NDAs are typically used in corporate settlements, not law enforcement ("You can never say anything about this...if you do, you will be sued..." [10:42] Woody Overton).
- The duo consider the NDAs to be both a tool of intimidation and a violation of public interest, especially if used blanketly.
3. Woody’s Legal Offensive: Public Records Request
Timestamp: 28:09 – 35:01
- Woody details his collaboration with attorney Thomas Davenport, who filed a formal public records request to the VPSO, demanding disclosure of any NDAs, confidentiality agreements, or other documents restricting employee speech (read verbatim from the letter [31:01] Woody Overton).
- To date, Vernon Parish authorities have not responded ("We've got a whole bunch of crickets. Thus far, not even a response, not even an acknowledgment of receipt." [35:01] Woody Overton).
4. Obstruction, Intimidation, and Delayed Justice
Timestamp: 35:01 – 41:57
- Morgan shares obstacles she's faced as Bradley's advocate, including denied Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) requests crucial to accessing death benefits for Bradley's son.
- Kinds of intimidation mentioned range from professional threats ("If you talk about this case, you're fired.") to potential legal traps if NDAs were broken.
5. Summary of Suspects and Key Evidence
Timestamp: 23:33 – 26:11
- Morgan reiterates David Vance (VPSO detective) told her Austin O’Banion named Jason McDaniel, Danielle Gibson, and Justin Charbonneau as involved in Bradley’s murder, with Charbonneau allegedly the shooter.
- This claim is corroborated in part by other community sources and by Woody, who notes, "It's Detective David Vance that put it in his mouth to Morgan Baggett...Austin o'Banion said it and then passed the polygraph." [52:46] Woody Overton
6. Direct Suspect Communication
Timestamp: 41:57 – 56:00
- Woody reads an extensive, agitated Facebook message sent by Justin Charbonneau following mention of his name on the podcast. Charbonneau repeatedly denies involvement, offers to take a polygraph, and shifts blame toward Bradley's family, claiming rumors and conspiracy.
- Woody responds sharply, "As far as questioning my character, go fuck yourself. I'm a Christian, not a pacifist." [54:02] Woody Overton
- Morgan later shares additional messages where Charbonneau claims to be close with Sheriff Kraft: “Sam Kraft told my mother to tell me congratulations. Does that sound like they're hunting me down?” [55:13] Morgan Baggott
7. Upcoming Evidence: Photographic and Video Material
Timestamp: 59:00 – 63:00
- Morgan teases discovery of hundreds of photos and videos from a game camera SD card, allegedly turned over to law enforcement by a potential witness.
- Contradicting detective claims that "there is nothing on there," multiple people insist the images are highly suspicious, possibly even crime scene images.
- Woody hints at possessing unseen photographic evidence and believes a witness or participant may soon “flip.”
8. Woody’s Method and Resolve
Timestamp: 62:58 – 65:00
- Woody makes it clear he’s playing a long game, using both investigative tenacity and legal means: "I'm gonna out-think you. And I'm gonna hit you in ways that you haven't thought of."
- He acknowledges many good people within Vernon Parish but refuses to let "the shitheads" intimidate or stonewall the investigation.
9. Personal Toll and Advocacy
Timestamp: 65:06 – 66:00
- The episode closes with an emotional exchange: Morgan expresses gratitude and relief after years "fighting sadness" and pushing alone for answers, while Woody reaffirms his commitment to the victims and their families.
Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments
On the Gag Order and NDAs
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"We know that Sam Kraft issued a gag order to his employees. If you talk about this case, you're fired."
— [07:59] Woody Overton -
"Did only a small circle have to sign it or was it everyone? Word got back to me that it was everyone...every person employed with Vernon Parish Sheriff's department."
— [14:07] Morgan Baggott
On Legal Action
- "Tell them…this is a public records request for a copy [of] any non disclosure agreements…that prevent deputies or any staff…to disclose any information or facts related to the Sheriff's office and or any cases…"
— [31:01] Woody Overton (reading attorney’s letter)
On Suspicions and Stonewalling
- "If you could had an iota of how much shit I have on everybody in Vernon Parish, everybody wants to tell on everybody, all the bad people…from crazy stuff like this person's got a baby with this person...”
— [26:11] Woody Overton
On Direct Communications with Suspect
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“...Give me a lie detector test. Do whatever y' all got to do...I got ironclad proof other than me messing up, thinking I was locked up at the time, that I was in Lake Charles at the time…”
— [41:57-54:02] Justin Charbonneau (message read by Woody Overton) -
“As far as questioning my character, go fuck yourself. I'm a Christian, not a pacifist.”
— [54:02] Woody Overton
On Law Enforcement’s Ties to Suspect
- “Sam Kraft told my mother to tell me congratulations. Does that sound like they’re hunting me down?”
— [55:20] Morgan Baggott quoting Justin Charbonneau
Commitment to Justice
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“...the motherfuckers that did this, that murdered Bradley and Austin o’, Banion, you spent your last Labor Day free. I hope you enjoyed that weekend. Whoever you may be. And you know who you are. I know who you are.”
— [52:46] Woody Overton -
“We're going to keep fighting no matter what happens. Okay? You know why? Because what if Bradley was my brother or my son or Austin with my daughter or my sister or my mother or daddy, whatever. Everybody deserves justice.”
— [65:42] Woody Overton
Important Timestamps
| Segment | Timestamp | |--------------------------------------------------------------- |-----------:| | Woody warns suspects — "last Labor Day outside the wire" | 04:58 | | Discussion of gag order and initial NDA rumors | 06:01–17:00| | Woody details the public records demand to VPSO | 28:09–35:01| | Morgan blocked from pursuing death benefits for Bradley’s family| 41:00 | | Names of suspects, role of Austin O’Banion as witness | 23:33 | | Reading of Justin Charbonneau messages | 41:57–54:02| | Confirmation of suspect’s ties with sheriff | 55:20 | | Teaser: Game cam evidence, upcoming reveals | 59:00–63:00| | Emotional close: Woody & Morgan reaffirm resolve | 65:06–66:00|
Tone and Atmosphere
Relentlessly determined, at times confrontational but deeply empathetic, Woody and Morgan blend methodical legal and investigative strategy with raw emotional testimony. The episode conveys a crusading zeal against corruption, conveying both righteous anger and genuine care for the families impacted. The language is direct, occasionally profane, unwavering in pursuit of transparency and accountability.
For Listeners:
This episode is pivotal for anyone following Bradley and Austin’s cases or interested in the failures of rural law enforcement. The stakes are raised: Woody and Morgan are publicly demanding answers while confronting authority head-on. The threat of legal challenge, impending new evidence, and mounting public scrutiny set the stage for a potential break in the case—and perhaps, at last, “#JusticeForBradley.”
Tip Line: 313-RLRC-TIP
Photos/Videos Teased: Upcoming episode
Next Episode: Will focus on photographic and video evidence critical to the case
"Justice is coming. We're never going to stop. Hashtag justice for Bradley. Hashtag justice for AO..."
— Woody Overton [57:14]