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And the wolf is at your core.
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Woody Overton
Oh.
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You running over that's for sure Already knows all about you cut you down no matter by you now you better walk the line.
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Woody Overton
Real Life Real Warning this episode of Real Life Real Crime. The podcast may contain descriptions of acts of violence or that of a sexual nature and should be for people that are 18 years or older. He my warning people I do not get the facts of these cases off of the Internet or for some television show. The facts I'm retelling you were presented to me by the victims of the crimes or the perpetrators who committed the crimes against the victims. My descriptions of the crime scenes, what I saw with my own two eyes. If you gonna get hello everybody and welcome this episode of Real Life Real Crime the podcast. As always, I'm your host, Woody, over and whoo. Today we're going to be continuing just for Bradley now, hashtag justice for AO. And I think it's episode 13, if I'm not mistaken in this one. I'm going off the cuff, but I have a lot to say. And we're going to start with where we left off last week, which is the top my attorney, Thomas Davenport, who is an absolute beast, y'. All. He's with the Davenport firm at 607 Main street in Pineville, Louisiana. And the telephone number is 318-445-9696, or you can go to www.davin port firm.com. okay. And so Tommy, as I affectionately call him, is sent the public information request to the Vernon Parish Sheriff's Office, and he asked for any copies of non disclosure agreements in any case ever in the history of the sheriff's office. Right. Not just for Bradley or aos or whatever, just any. And you know, a lot of people were like, send me messages like, oh, it's going to take at least 30 days and what have you and whatnot. Well, that's not necessarily true because they responded rather quickly. Not the Vernon Parish Sheriff's Office, but a law firm out in New Orleans, Louisiana, which is about as far across the state as you can get from Vernon Parish. And how dollar law firm out in New Orleans responded on behalf of Sheriff Sam Kraft and the Vernon Parish Sheriff's Office. And there's a little bit of lawyer karate going on here. And then because there's several responses back and forth that I want to talk about on today's episode. Now let me digress. Before we get started, I want to say please continue to call in your tips. 313 rlrc tip. All right. And your tips are coming in. There's a lot of you I haven't even talked to yet. And there's a reason for that. I'm doing things in order because I'm trying to get on. I'm trying to stay on one or I'm staying on one until I can't get off of it. And then of course, these other ones are coming in and I have to it's like pieces of puzzle putting it together, seeing what pieces don't fit. And but you got to make sure you got to check out every piece, right? So it just takes a moment and it takes time. And it's a lot. It's a lot. I get calls all day every day and emails and text messages and messengers and whatever. So Just bear with me. It is being worked. I'll tell you the one thing that I know is consistent, that if, you know, all these pieces are being put together in the puzzle, the puzzle would be named who murdered Bradley Stracer and who murdered Austin o'. Banion. All right? Not where are they or, you know, it's an accidental overdose. She didn't have a mark on her. The one thing that stays consistent through all the tips is every one of them, every single one of them has something to say about the murder of Bradley Striesnar or the murder of Austin o'. Banion. All right? Now, where is Bradley Strasner or, you know, Austin? Abandoned od. So I believe totally in my heart that the cases are absolute, 1 billion percent connected. And I believe that they both were murdered. So now, proven it beyond a reasonable doubt is. Is proven. Proven beyond a reasonable doubt is where I need to be to turn it over to the powers that be that can work the case. Right. To give them a sandwich that they can't refuse to eat. And the probable cause, we're way beyond that. That's 50% plus one. Beyond a reasonable doubt. They need to have the information in front of them to say, holy smokes, we cannot deny this. We got to take it to a grand jury. We got to verify all this. But what he's saying is true, which is going to take a minute and then proceed with it. Right? All right, so let's go back to Tommy. I don't need to read you the public information request letter again. You go back and listen to last week's episode that Tommy sent, and he sends it to Vernon Paris sheriff's office. Well, on September 9, 2025 at 2:37pm attorney Craig Frosh, f r o s C h wrote. Dear Mr. Davenport, please see the attached response. On behalf of the Vernon parish sheriff's office. And this is Craig fosh. Craig e. Fosh of council rodrigue and a r c u r I llp of 1615 Poise Street, 1250 New Orleans, Louisiana, 70112. And their phone number is 504-592-4600. Or their email is www.rodrigue. i'm going to read it for you. R o d R I g u E A R c u R I dot com. All right, so then it has a confidentiality notice. This information and this email is confidential and may be legally privileged. This communication, including attachments, is protected by the attorney client privilege as recognized by the federal state law. The communication is only intended for the named recipient. If you're not that named recipient, you must not read, use or disseminate the information of this email. Please do not forward or distribute this communication to anyone without the express permission of the sender. If you have received this email in error, please notify the sender immediately at 504-592-4600 or info at router whatever the email is. All right, so well, I'm I'm going to read it to you because it's part of the public information request and, you know, unless they tell me otherwise. Here it goes. So it's on their letterhead. Laura C. Rodrigue, Blake J. I guess the security and then several other attorneys Freeman R. Matthews, Timothy R. Richardson, James P. Wilson, Ronald S. Bryant and Craig E. Fosh. All right, so it says sold in the letterhead and says via email Davenport Jr. Davenportfirm.com and regular MA to Thomas Davenport Jr. 607 Main St. Pineville, LA and says re this is in bold Records Request directed to Vernon Parish Sheriff Dear Mr. Davenport, we are counsel for the Vernon Parish Sheriff's Office. Your request for copies of records directed to the Sheriff has been referred to us for an official response. Your request seeks copies of the non disclosure agreements, contracts, confidentiality agreements, contracts and then parentheses sic or any agreements contracts that prevent deputies or any staff of the Vernon Parish Sheriff's Office to disclose any information or facts related to the Sheriff's office and and or any cases open parentheses, past, cold or current cases, close parentheses investigated by the Sheriff's Office. Says we are informed by the Sheriff's Office that there are no such agreements or contracts in existence. Thus, there are no such records to produce under the Louisiana Public Records Act. Next paragraph. We do note, however, that the act contains an exemption from the disclosure requirements for records of a sheriff's office pertaining to pending or reasonably anticipated criminal proceedings. See Louisiana Revised Statute 44, 3A and 1. This provision restricts access to information to sheriff's office records of open investigations. In addition and along these lines, the Sheriff's Office Policy Manual includes a provision whereby cooperation with the news media is encouraged, but also directs that information which would be detrimental to the public at large or to a specific investigation or the conviction of a suspect should not be released. Moreover, the policy prohibits the release of criminal record information, except as provided by law, to other law enforcement agencies or other authorized agencies for the purpose of crime prevention and law enforcement. The policy designates the sheriff and his chief deputy or chief of detectives as the sole sources of official information and news release for the office with the provisions of this information. We consider this matter concluded. Sincerely, Craig E. Frosch and it has a signature, etc. All right, so well, Tommy gets this and he looks at it and he's not quite satisfied with the answer. All right, so Thomas Davenport emails Mr. Frosh back and says Mr. Or however you say his name, y'. All. F O R s c h Mr. Farsh, a copy of the NDA used by the Sheriff is not in any way related to an ongoing case. I am asking for a copy of the NDA the Sheriff is having his employee sign. It can be a blank one and I want to see it. Please advise if your client will comply or whether further action is required. Thomas Davenport Jr. Davenport Firm, APLC all right, that's it, right? That's all it's going to be, right? No, I told you about the Little Karate. So Mr. Frosh then responds again and this is on September 9, 2025 at 4 9pm Craig Frosh wrote. Dear Mr. Davenport, the Sheriff has complied with his statutory obligations. Your request salt copies of a non disclosure agreement that related to past cold or current criminal cases.
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Woody Overton
As stated in our correspondence, there are no such agreements or contracts in existence. Thus, there are no such records to produce. Under the Louisiana Public Records Act, a custodian cannot produce a record that does not exist, and no writ of mandamus will be issued under the Public Records act if the requested record does not exist. C Le Branchet vs. Landry 202020461 of parentheses lo. App. 1 circ. 121522 close parentheses then 3, 5, 7 so period 3d 395 comma 404 and then open parentheses no cause of action under PRA if requested records do not exist. Close parentheses People for the Ethical treatment of animals vs. BD or Board of Supervisors of Louisiana State University 20220976 open parentheses Louisiana app. 1 circuit y' all this is going to be Louisiana Pella 1 1st Circuit 919 of 23 close parentheses 376 so. 3d 178 comma 188 comma RIT Granite sub nom. People for Ethical Treatments of Animals vs. Board of Supervisors of Louisiana state University 202301396 open parenthesis LA124 24 close parentheses y' all I know this is a lie. This is lawyers lawyers trying to slap other lawyers. Continuing 377 so period 3d 685, n affd. I'm assuming it's affidavit 202301396 open parentheses LA 62824 close par 387 so. 3d 527 open parentheses court abused its discretion when granting a writ of mandamus to produce records that did not exist. Close Parentheses continuing Lewis vs. Morrell 20161055 open parentheses La. App. 4th Circuit 4517 close parentheses 215 so 3d 737, comma 743, open parentheses. Indeed, the enforcement provisions of A Louisiana Revised Statute 4435 presuppose the existence of the records in the office of the custodian, close parentheses, citing Revere vs. Taylor 613. So period 2d 738, open parentheses. Louisiana Appellate 4th Circuit, 1993, close parentheses. Okay, y', all, I guess I've just got to read it all to you. And now we're going to continue with Mr. Frost's email. Says Our reference to RS 443 was provided to show that there are, however, non contractual limitations on the release of information or records pertaining to open cases. Thus, to the extent you imply there may be limitations on deputy sheriffs with respect to disclosure of records and information pertaining to pending or anticipated criminal cases, we want it to be clear that the Public Records act itself contains limitations on the disclosure of those types of records. And these limitations are carried over into the reference policy sections which bind deputy sheriffs to the limitations on disclosures of such information and records based on the facts and the law. No further action is seen as being necessary here. All right, That's a lot, right? And this Craig Frosh email and everything I told you before. So, well, you know, what does Tommy do then? Well, I mean, to me, and I'm the lawyer to me, that they're saying under Public Information act, it doesn't exist, but deputies, you know, in ongoing cases, etcetera, they, you know, don't have to disclose anything. Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. Right? Little attorney karate. All right, so now y' all back to it. Now I'm gonna read you Tommy's or Thomas Davenport attorneys email sent Tuesday, September 9, 2025 at 5:00pm to Craig Frosh re records request directed to Vernon Pear Sheriff's Office. So Tommy responded back again, says, Dear Mr. Frosh, I am not trying to be a pugilist on this issue. Your letter could be read to mean one of two points. One, there are no such documents whatsoever, or two, there are no such documents that can be produced as they relate to ongoing cases and said documents are excluded under the Louisiana Public's Record Act. So for purposes of clarity, I want to be sure there are no records whatsoever without any limitations, terms or conditions. If you are endeavoring to explain in terms of number two, there is an ancient jurisprudence that absolutely prohibits the use of NDAs and or confidentiality agreements to skirt around public records. Thus, any limitations under the Public's Record act would not apply as such. NDAs are impermissible entirely. While academically appreciated, the interjection of issues and limitations of public records law seemed odd following a representation that there are no such records in existence. I hope we are on the same page. Please advise me if I'm in error. I appreciate your time. Thomas D. Davenport Jr. Davenport firm. All right, so right back at you. It's like a tennis match, you know. The NDA request was served by Tommy Frosh responds and knocks it back over to net. Timer responds. Frosh responds. Timer response. Right. And continuing well and you're gonna love this one. I love how the the lawyers take like jabs at each other like Thomas saying I'm not trying to be a pugilist on this issue and ends it with I hope we're on on the same page. Please advise by Monera. I please appreciate your time. Right. So Mr. Frosh responds again and this is a good one. On Tuesday, September 9, 2025 at 8:04pm, Craig Frosh wrote. Not quite sure how you get there from my first two responses, but I will try again for the third time. There are no sheriff's office non disclosure agreements or contracts in existence so none can be produced. End of story. That's how he ends his email. Craig Frosh and the law firm. Again, end of story. Right. Okay. Well, Timer responds. On Wednesday, September 10, 2025 at 6:35am RA records request directed to Vernon Parish Sheriff's to Craig Frosh. Thank you. As you know, it is always best to be certain rather than assume we are on the same page. Thomas D. Javin Port Thomas D. Davenport Jr. Davenport firm. Right. All right, so let's talk about it. The what does it mean? I'm probably getting in trouble for reading, but I don't care. This we did it. And the they are we sent them. The request comes back and says there are none now in the entire history of the sheriff's office on any case. Now, do you think this lawyer from New Orleans went to Burnham Parish and looked through every case file and everything that's ever been written since the history of the Vernon Parish Sheriff's Office began? There's not enough lawyers in the world. All right, so Vernon Parish Sheriff's office gets the request. They're like that. Send it to the lawyers. That's what we pay them for. So they sent to this big firm in New Orleans, right? And they said, well, you know, basically this podcast is doing this and they're digging these cases and stirring up a shift store. I'm assuming y'. All, I mean this is what the picture would look like in my brain. They're stirring up all the shit. Da, da, da, da. And now they want copy NDAs related to this case. And when lawyers like, okay, well do you have any? No. Okay, but if we did, you know, our deputies, under certain policy manual, things that they have to sign when they come on board. Yeah. That they, they can't disclose, things that are, you know, on ongoing cases, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. Right. And so lawyers sends it that thing saying there are none, but if there are word, these would be protected under this, this, this, and this and this. Right. Okay. And Tommy fires back. Well, I mean, I'm not asking you to divulge information on the individuals in the case. Just send me a copy of the NDA with blank for the names. No, we don't have any, but it's protected under this. And then Tommy's like, well, you know, it seems very strange to me that you would quote Louisiana Revised Statute 43.5 or whatever it was after you deny that any exists. Whatever lawyers doing. What lawyers do and what it boils down to in a nutshell, in my mind are two things. One, they are saying there are no non disclosure agreements that have ever been signed by a deputy in the history of the Vernon Perry sheriff's office. Not just Bradley Strasner's case or Austin Abanius case. None that have ever been signed in the history. But if there were and it's an ongoing case, then you know, under certain statutes or, or sheriff's office guidelines, they don't have to disclose. Okay. Now, why did I get Tommy to file? Thomas Davenport, best lawyer in the world. Why did I get Tommy to file for the public information request? I had that, you know, tell you about tips all day long and, and people have been talking to in the hours and hours, recordings and stuff that I listened to the, the gag order thing came out in the beginning of the case. The people messaged me and said, hey. The sheriff, you know, basically told him, I say, gag order. I mean like, sheriff said, hey, this is a gag order. But the sheriff's like, if you talk about this case, you're fired. That's what was told to me by numerous different sources. Right. And I get that in the beginning, the. I get it. The. Look heat's being brought by real life, real crime and Woody Overton, much less Morgan Baggott, who's been bringing it for years. And. But now it's on a public platform and the whole world knows about it. Besides Morgan's TikTok page and what she's been doing. The said don't talk about it. Okay? If I was a sheriff, I said the same thing. You know, that way loose lips sink ships and you can't fuck up and say the wrong thing. And the one thing that I told you about over and over and over again, you heard from Morgan Baggett. And. And I have personally talked to people that Detective David Vance has had diarrhea the mouth of and he's told them directly about Austin Ovanian and Bradley Straitsman's case. That's a fact. And I guarantee you when I worked for the sheriff's office back in the day, if I said shit like he said on Open Case, my ass had been fired. And you're not doing any good. Are you being braggadocious? Because you're not, certainly you're not getting the information out of these people. I mean these people are like upstanding citizens. And I'm not gonna say what they do for a living. Upstanding citizens. That it's just pregnancy, much less that him using Morgan all these years over the investigation until Morgan pissed him off and. And he attacked her on a personal Facebook page. Etc. And then the. You're telling everybody everything. Maybe he should have understood that there's policy and procedures in your manual and everything in the policy procedure manual is there because somebody fucked up and did something wrong. Right? Every rule that's been made is because Joe Blow did this before and we don't want to happen again. You can't do it. But he's done it. And I dare him to come out publicly and say he hasn't because all these people will come forward and say he's lying. So I get the gag order part. Not throwing shade on share for that. The. But recently in a couple weeks led up to the last week's podcast, I was told that certain employees were having to sign non disclosure agreements at the direction of the sheriff. All right? And like I told you last week, the NDA, I mean that's a, that's a legal binding document. And but you know, I can't, I can't tell you what it said because I wasn't there and I've never seen it, so I can't actually say it's in existence. That's why we filed for the Information Act. But it was what I was told is it said something to the fact that, you know, you will not speak on this case. There were these cases, period, or basically you'd be terminated. All right, but the thing Is y', all, that's a. I tell people all the time that people don't believe that sheriffs and, you know, mayors and people like that, they think that they're untouchable. They're not. They're public employees. The sheriff is elected. All right? If you do something under the guise of the sheriff's office, it is public information. And yeah, I get it, if you work in open cases, you're not going to disseminate information on that or you can't disseminate criminal histories and stuff like that to the public. But I'm talking about you put in an email or you put a sheriff's office pin on sheriff's office paper, on a non disclosure agreement and you make them sign that belongs to the public. You didn't pay for that, that piece of paper. You didn't pay for that pen. You didn't pay for the, you know, whatever it is that's going in there. The public paid for the taxes, paid for it. Okay, so people were telling me that non disclosure now and other people were telling me it was a gag order in the beginning, but certain people had to sign non disclosure agreements. And I can't answer that. The, I can't answer that one way or another. I again, I wasn't there. So what did I do? I start fishing. And by fishing I mean I'm pushing back. Okay, you heard this from your family member, you know, can you get a recording of them saying there's a non disclosure agreement? Can you? You know, I want it further proof, right? And if it came from one source and a lot of the tips are like this, right? I'll get one tip and then later on I get another tip that says same thing but a little bit varied, et cetera. And when you get more than one, you gotta certainly, you gotta check it out. You gotta check them all out. But how do you check out this? Reported deputies are being made to sign non disclosure agreements. In Bradley and Austin's case, it came up again. And it came up again. So I started pushing back a little bit. And look, a lot of great people in Vernon Parish are feed me information. And so I would just ask them, I'd be like, okay, so have you heard anything about non disclosure agreements? They get back to me. Some of them hadn't. Some of them said yes, they definitely had in the. And that they talked to someone who said those were in existence. So without, I mean, yeah, think about this. I feel for the employees, if this is true and, and they had to sign non disclosure agreements they're signing to save their jobs. And I get that. They, you know, you don't go to work for a sheriff's office to get rich. You go because you love law enforcement, whatever, or you need the money, right? I don't want anybody to lose their job for telling me something about a non disclosure agreement. That's not the whole point. I just want to know why. And maybe you know what, maybe the sheriff's office is being truthful and there's no non disclosure agreements. In my mind, I don't think that's true. I don't think all these people are offering up information about who the fuck knows what a non disclosure agreement is? An NDA who knows that? I knew it because I've been involved with it and I had to do it. Not in law enforcement, but in, in private business. Okay? When people start telling me non disclosure agreements NDAs, I'm like, oh no. And they're not lawyers. Y' all the people who are saying it. But that's okay. Let's assume that there's no. Let's don't assume, let that. Let's assume that the people are correct and the sources that they're getting from the people who allegedly sign non disclosure agreements on Bradley and Austin's cases, okay, let's assume that they are being truthful and that these deputies told them. I mean, I'm not gonna say, I'm not saying anything. I'm not. I don't want anybody to lose their job. But let's assume that it's correct and true. What I just read you on this podcast today means your sheriff is calling you a liar. Okay? Saying it didn't happen. The or your sheriff's office is calling you a liar. And now I understand if it, if it's true. You can't come out because you got to feed your family. I get that that's not the purpose intent on of me doing the public information request. The purpose was to find out why if there's an NDA, why and also let you know, you can't hide behind an NDA. It's done through the sheriff's office public information. But here Mr. Frost, respond with all these Louisiana Revised Statute and ongoing criminal cases and da, da, da, da, da. But there are no non disclosure agreements. I got a family full of lawyers. My mom was a lawyer, My daddy was a lawyer. All my brothers and sisters are lawyers. You know, baby sisters. A judge. One grandfather was a judge till he died. Other one was longest running D A in the history of the state. My aunt still my godmother is a judge right now. And you know, my other aunt, law professor, 30 plus years. I mean, everybody in my family's lawyers. And if you sit around on a holiday and listen to them talk to each other, they say all this without saying stuff. I guess it's, you know, like bringing your work home with you. That's what this is, these emails. But there's One thing that Mr. Frosh made abundantly clear because it was told to him. Now, has he ever been to Vernon Parish in his entire life? I would be a monkey's uncle if he's ever set foot in Vernon's parish. I mean, it's probably like a one in a million chance, but that's their counsel, and I'm sure they're good lawyers, right? But the one thing they are adamant about is Vernon Parish Sheriff's office says there's never been any kind of document like that ever. So to all of you who told me that there were, somebody's calling you a liar. I don't like being called a liar. You know, the. I don't like getting blamed for that I didn't do or saying that I didn't say. So now we're going to be at the phase of. I'm not asking anybody to do anything but the. The. How do I word this? If it was me and I had signed, I'd been forced, basically, because you either gonna sign this piece of paper or sheriff's office employees, they're not civil service, they're at Will employees. They can fire you for not liking the way you combed your hair that day. Okay? You're an AT Will employee, meaning you can be let go for anything just because the wind blew out of the direction that I didn't like. You're fired. Right? You put an NDA or a document in front of me stating that if you talk to anyone about Austin or Bradley Stracer, you will be terminated immediately. Well, sign the paper. If you don't sign it, I mean, if you're sitting there and you don't sign it, you're fired. You can't feed your family, you can't pay your bills, can't pay your car note, can't pay your insurance, can't do anything, how are you going to eat? Right? Baby needs a new pair of shoes. Right? And I get that, but if. If you. If I was the one who signed it, and let's say it exists and I had to sign something that, you know, it could be legalese and they might not Be calling it NDA. They might be calling it a new page in a policy procedure manual, whatever. If you sign that and just know they're saying you didn't, and you sign that and you told someone who told me, they're calling you a liar. Now, if it was me, I would make sure Woody Overton got a copy, right? I would make sure Woody Overton got a copy and believe that he's going to keep you anonymous. And. But I'm going to tell the world. You know why? Because that is damaging public records, Period. And then denying it through your lawyer or whomever, that is damaging public records. It's a no, no, can't do it. There's a reason for it. Now, I'm not saying 100% certainty that there is. I'm saying that, you know, if it's cold outside and the clouds come in and it's dark gray and the wind's blowing and I'm gonna go take me a nap, and it looks like it's about to snow, and it's like 25 degrees, it's dark, heavy clouds, looks like it's about to snow. And I go in, I take my hour nap, and I get up and I look out the window and there's snow everywhere. Six inches of snow, but it's not still snowing. Six inches snow on the ground. There wasn't any before. What does, what could or what is the only thing a reasonable person could induce, and that's the fact that it snowed while Woody was asleep. All these people coming forward. And yes, I did push back on some of it after I started hearing about NDA. NDA. Non Disclosure agreement. My family member signed a non Disclosure agreement. Whether they're, you know, whatever, these. At some point somebody said NDA. Because unless you're in the legal world, you don't know what that means. But the fact that NDA started popping up and I pushed back and I asked questions and I had people ask questions that heard it, and I got back more information. That's why I was sent y' all all. And the they can if it's. If it was done. Because now, according to attorney Fosh, Vernon Parish Sheriff's office categorically denies any document was ever signed by anybody relating to these cases. And being quiet, if it was me, again, if it was me, I'd make sure William got a copy of it, right? Because if I'm signing that, unless they're standing over my shoulder, I'm taking a picture of it. All right? You may not ask for a copy of it and it may, may be stuck on a policy procedure manual or something like that there. Look, all times in sheriff's office when new policy and procedures come out, you have to sign it and add it to your policy procedure manual. That way if you ever break the rule, then they can pull it out and say they don't have to, it's a to fire anyway. But they can pull it out and say, look dumbass, you sign this, you read it, you can't say you didn't know it existed, you're fired or you're in trouble or whatever. Give me a copy. All right? And then that happens. Then it's. It's really going to be some legal karate going on if it didn't happen. Okay, that's fine. The. The. I'm pursuing all avenues and all things related to. To hashtag just for Bradley. Hashtag just for ao. Now this is not. This hasn't been a episode about the murders and the investigations and, and what has happened and hadn't happened or whatever. But this is very, very, very, very, very important. Very important. Because if it. There's a grain of truth to it, you have to ask yourself why. And if you just saying there's no. You're not calling a non disclosure agreement, but they. You had them sign a policy procedure or whatever it may be, ask yourself why? What is there to hide? What is there for it that they're afraid of you talking about that could be made public. That would be a black eye on Vernon Parish Sheriff's Office. All right? And again, they're way, way, way, way more great people in Vernon Parish and the Vernon Parish Sheriff's Office than there are bad. But it is what it is. And the take on these cases, you never know where it's going to go. And I did not expect it to go in this direction, but it's here. So if you have something and you took photograph of it or I don't think they'd be stupid enough to give you a copy of it, but you got a copy of it in some form, send it to me. Redacted, redact your name, redact whatever you want, send it to me. And if I can verify it, we're gonna take that to trial, guaranteed. So I love and appreciate each and every one of y'. All. Thanks for, you know, thanks for all the tips. I mean, you just don't know. Look, I know there are certain amount of you that I haven't even gotten back to yet, all right? And. And I apologize about that. But I'm doing the best that I can do. And we're going to continue. I'm like a squirrel. Squirrel brain. Right? And the squirrel and something you comes up like the NDAs. And I'm 110% on it. And then I don't call these people back for this and I apologize for that. But I will get to you and this case will be concluded or these cases will be concluded when they're concluded and not one second before. But please continue to call in your tips. And yes, I'm getting tips on everything from my neighbor's dog on my lawn to, to Bradley and Austin. All right? And just call them in. I don't care what it is. I'll try to make that piece of the puzzle fit correctly. If it doesn't fit, I'm discarding it. Right. It doesn't belong. And the hashtag just for Bradley and the hashtag justice for ao puzzle. I think I said enough. I love and appreciate each and every one of y' all and you are the best lifers of the best fans in the world. And I thank you for everything. Patreon convicts, thank you so much. You know you're going to get this commercial free early release as always. And I'm Woody Overton, your host of Real Life, Real Crime, the podcast. Until next time or ever. Don't let me catch you down on murder by you. Peace.
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