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You have the right to remain silent. Anything you say can and will be used against you in a court of law. You have to write to an attorney prior to or during any question. If you can't afford one, the court appoint one for you. Do you understand your rights?
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And the wolf is at your home you running zone but that's for sure already knows all about you cut you down no matter about you.
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Now you.
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Warning this episode of Real Life, Real Crime. The podcast may contain descriptions of acts of violence or that of a sexual nature and should be for people that are 18 years or older. He my warning people, I do not get the facts of these cases off of the Internet or for some television show. The facts I'm retelling you were presented to me by the victims of the crimes or the perpetrators who committed the crimes against the victims. My descriptions of the crime scenes, what I saw with my own two eyes. If you're going to get offended, please turn this podcast off now. Thank you. Hello, everybody, and welcome this episode of Real Life, Real Crime, the podcast. As always, I'm your host, Woody Overton. Today continuing just for Bradley, hashtag justice for ao and God knows hashtag justice for everybody in Vernon Parish, I guess, and all over the world. But we. I have Ms. Morgan Baggott with me again this week, y'. All. Morgan, say hi.
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Hey, Woody. And hey, lifers, Right?
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So Morgan has, has. First of all, there's just so much going on in the case and it's just from all angles. And I just spent Morgan another, I don't know, 30 minutes on the phone with somebody else on another tip and they yeah, the tips keep them coming in 313 rlrc tip. And I'm getting so much information, a lot of it is, you know, can never be used. And of course, if you want to be anonymous, you absolutely, you know, take it to my grave, et cetera. I don't even tell Morgan 99.9% of what I'm working on, what have you. But the today, if Morgan wanted to actually talk before the episode and try to plan out things. I said, nope, not going to do it. We are going to go raw and unscripted because that's where the best episodes come from. That being said, Morgan, I have a couple directions. I have like three different directions we can go in. But I think. I think I want to start out with Bradley's mother, Tony. Right. And it's a big one. But the reason why the over the other two topics and we may broach into those also. But you did a tick tock last week and which you just had enough and you came out and said some things that, you know, you had always wanted to say or been thinking about and what have you. And so what I'm going to do is I'm gonna be quiet. So y', all. I talked to Ms. Tony maybe a couple times. Like I don't know if I talked to her by the phone and then text or whatever. And then she sent me a text message one night accusing me of saying something which I didn't say. And I never heard from her again. Ghosted. And this been like two months ago, I guess or a month and a half ago. So the guy always try to keep the victims families in mind and stuff like that when I do cases like this. Well, sometimes there's a reason may that you don't. But Morgan, you've known Ms. Tony since when Tell me about the relationship and then tell me what, what height and no holds barred it. Everything that you're saying is, you know, coming from her and. And what have you and we'll get into that. But you just tell us about how you met Ms. Tony and relationship and where we're at now. I'm gonna be quiet for once and try not to interrupt as much.
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Yeah, I. I was listening to you and I'm just sitting here thinking I don't even know where to begin or. Because one of the things that I said in my Facebook post in my TikTok video was that, you know, I stayed so quiet about this for so long because this is really hard to process and articulate myself and the feelings and the frustrations and. And sometimes even downright anger.
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Okay, yeah.
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Towards this woman. You know, it's.
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I. I get that. So tell me. And I guess I don't. First time you met her, you were dating Bradley or what? When did your relationship. How long have you known? Or give us a little bit of background. Well, I mean, it wasn't always. It wasn't always contentious. Correct.
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It was never fabulous.
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Yeah, I Didn't. Yeah, but it wasn't where it is now, right?
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No.
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All right, tell us about that. You're. You go ahead. I'm gonna be quiet, I promise. Go ahead.
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Well, we. We met in 2011, of course, because that's when Bradley and I got together. And I always feel the need, always, especially now, to explain to people that I am not just. This is not a bitter ex daughter in law who has hatred towards her ex monster in law. It is nothing like that. Tony is one of a kind and she always has been. And there is a thousand people who will tell you these same stories about her, but when. When I did first meet her, you know, she. She probably laid it on a little thick and. And I was very young and I was so naive and I did find out really quickly though, how very manipulative she was with all of her children. Any in. And it caused problems between Bradley and I because, you know, it in the middle of the night, sleeping in bed with our baby between us, and he gets a call and it's his mom and all of a sudden he's got to get out of bed and go. And, you know, and. And I remember something I'll never forget. And this is the God's honest truths. May he strike me dead right now if I'm lying. That woman packed around an oxygen tank for months on end, probably like a year, and she had told her children, all four of them, that she had some rare lung disease and she was dying. She was going to die and she was so weak and she needed them to do everything for her. And you know, she. She doesn't. I've seen her many times since then and she doesn't have an auction tank and she's not dead yet. And I guess she was just miraculously healed. But her children really did believe that and she. She was just poison to them mostly. There. There's so many people who love Bradley and cared so much about him and really all of the. Every last one of them. And I can guarantee you, if I had them here with me right now, they. They told Bradley this all the time. And me and these people have had many conversations about it. If they could have just broken that connection, if they could have just gotten away from their mother, they might have turned out okay or they might have been okay. One. One thing in particular that happened that. That really set it in stone for me. When Bradley and I were still together. Bradley would say he was trying to stay sober sometimes, and he wasn't actually trying, but there were times when I Knew that Bradley was trying with all of his might to stay sober and be sober and change his ways. And one of those times, Bradley was on his hands and knees at my feet, crying and snotting and sobbing, almost like I've hardly never seen any man do in my whole life. And he said, when I see my mom, I should think about my favorite meal or she's got my favorite dessert cooked. But when I see my mom, I know she has drugs, and I want drugs. And he said, the very first time I ever did hard drugs in my life, I was 14 years old, and my own mama laid out a line of cocaine for me. 14 years old, and he was crying so hard at my feet, on his hands and knees when he told me that.
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So he's saying his mama cut him up a line of cocaine when he was 14 and gave it to him.
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Yeah, that's. I just. I'm sorry. I don't mean to laugh. It's just so unfathomable to me. And I don't believe for a second that Bradley lied to me about that. Why would he say that if it wasn't true? And the better question is, why would you do that? As a mother, why would you do that?
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Well, you know, takes all kinds to make the world go around. That's all I'll say about that. Right? I mean, I guess she's wanted him to join the party.
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When I left Bradley for good that final time, I had cut all ties completely with Tony. The only people I communicated with, associated with Bradley was his father and his father's side of the family. Most of them I still stayed in contact with, especially Bradley's father and two of his cousins. But I had not heard from Tony. I had her blocked from every direction. And Bradley went missing, and I kept her blocked. And there come a point in time when I just started wondering. I had not talked to her. I wondered what she would have to say, what was going on from her end, what was she doing? I just wanted to talk to her. She. I knew she was one of the last people who had seen Bradley, and.
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That'S. That's proven by text messages on the day he disappeared. He. He was to remind him about that real quick.
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Well, besides the fact that I've talked to her over the years, and she told me that, and she told the detective that, and. And it's just a known fact, but there are text messages and. And podcasts and. And videos that she says, you know, he left my house and said, bye, Mom. And I never thought that was the last time I would see him. But I don't know a court. According to one article, Bradley stole the pills. According to these text messages, Tony gave the pills to Bradley to sell. And she very specifically says, I told them, Jason, that I need money for these pills. I did not want to trade. I told Bradley. I made that very clear to Bradley and Jason. They knew that she was sending Bradley to Jason and Danielle's to sell her pills and she wanted money not to trade. And yes, you're correct. That's in text message form, screenshots.
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Right.
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I didn't know that. Super duper early on I didn't know that. But there came a time and it was approaching probably about two months after Bradley had been missing. And I just started wondering about Tony and what she might would have to say. And before I could reach out to her, she sent word through one of her friends to tell me, hey, Tony wants to get in contact with you. And so I did. And that was a really long conversation. But one thing, even six years later that has stood out to me that I have yet to get over or understand or make sense of. Now, I want to explain something to you. At this point, myself and Bradley's entire family are still very, extremely hopeful that he's going to show back up and that he's. He's all right. He's going to show back up. He's just being Bradley, me, me and all of his family, his dad's family. Hey, have you heard from him? We're talking? No, but I. I really ain't too worried yet because he's going to up I just eight weeks in. We're not thinking.
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We haven't accepted that he's dead or something awful could have happened yet. None of us. I. I want to say, at that point, I feel fully expected and hoped and prayed that he was going to show back up. But at some point throughout this phone conversation with Bradley's mother, Tony, she said something to me. She says, well, when they find my baby dead in the woods, you'll get money because you have his baby.
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Yeah. And she's like, talking about, like, Social Security or whatever, but she's saying when, not if, but when they find him dead in the woods, don't worry because you'll get money.
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She said, when? And my job, I literally remember just kind of holding my mouth open and staring off into the distance, trying to comprehend what she just said. And when I could get words come out of my mouth again, I said, tony, what? No, that's not. I said, first of all, and I remember telling her this, I said, I don't give a damn about money. Bradley never gave me money. I didn't fall for child support. He would give me, like, parts of his checks or all of his checks every once in a blue moon. And I mean every now and then. Money wasn't an issue. My mother, I was working and my mother and my family and Bradley's father was helping me and helping take care of Oliver. It didn't matter if I was getting money from Bradley or not, because other people, my support system was helping me, including Bradley's father. And I said, that's not. I don't want money. I said, if he come walking up to my window, I said in my car, having this phone conversation with her, that's what I want. I said, if he just come walking up right now, that's what I want. That's what we all want. That's what we're all expecting. Like nobody. I told her that too. I said, everybody thinks he's going to show back up. And then she just kind of diverted the conversation. Well, and it went somewhere else. And then. Oh, Lord. After that, every single week. And I have other people who were close to her during this time saying the same thing that I'm about to say. Just that every single week she had a new story, a new suspect, a new idea. She was searching in a different place. And. And some of them were just so far fetched. But I have screenshots also of. Of Danny K messaging her.
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And Danny K is the one that was involved in the arson. Just to remind people.
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Danny K is in the letter. Yep, Danny K's in the letter. Now, another very important piece of information. And I have Tony on recording saying this, that Danny K. Is Bradley's brother, Logan's biological father. Tony has known Danny forever. And. But there are screenshots of Danny K saying, hey, you know, I know what happened to Bradley and I need to talk to you and things like that. Of that nature.
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Screenshots between her and Danny K. Yes. Okay. Saying he knows what happened to Bradley.
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Yeah, I need, I need to talk to you about what happened to Bradley and things like that.
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Yeah.
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And you know, I just. I could dive so deep and I could tell every detail, but I think. I think people get the gist of. Well, yeah, of what a Tony experience is like.
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You need to tell some more. What about like stimulus checks? Different things like that.
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I have been told by at the very least three sources that Tony Bradley's mother cashed, received, and deposited or cashed his stimulus checks. Either one, I don't know. But apparently there was a couple different ones that were cash or deposited into an account where she would have had the access to the money. And this is all after he goes missing. And I. I had trouble that first year after Bradley was. Went missing, I had trouble filing my taxes. It took me six months to get my return. And they told me that the hangup was that two people filed taxes and claimed Oliver, our son. And I said, that. That doesn't make sense for too many reasons, because, number one, I'm the only one that could claim Oliver. I had sole custody, and I claimed Oliver. Number two, Bradley's been missing and he's not filing taxes. And if he is, then we need to find out where he is. Like that. Really, to be honest with you, that gave me so much hope to find that out.
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Right.
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That it possibly could have been Bradley filing his taxes and claiming Oliver. Because I was. It gave me a lot of hope, and I was just like, maybe he's still alive and he's okay out there, and he had to go away for whatever reason.
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Right.
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But I don't know. I've never pursued the stimulus check scenario or filing of taxes and claiming all of her scenario. I know there's a way. I know it'd probably be easy, but I'm always just two way overloaded to.
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Well, that's really easy. And if they want. They want to deny that, then let them deny it. Right, because government checks, whether it's taxes or, you know, covet stimulus checks, whatever, that wherever they cash them at, they got it on record who it was.
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Well, I know that it can be proven or disproven, and I really want to do that because I'm pretty sure that's like. Like, isn't that a federal law? Like, that would be.
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Yes, all federal. And here's the deal. Vernon Parish Sheriff's Office. Yeah, I'm assuming. And you tell me if it's different, but I'm assuming that, you know, you told Detective Vance that somebody claimed Bradley and. And you know, and what have you.
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Honestly, Woody, I don't know if I did or not. There.
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Well, as a detective, that's one of the things they should have checked, right? You're checking for any bank activity, any type of financial activity, period. And as a law enforcement officer, that wouldn't be a hard deal to see. I mean, if he's done anything like that. Did you. Did he file for his taxes? Well, I mean, who else can claim Bradley? They or. Or even say that they have a claim to Bradley? No one. Not Bradley. Yeah, to Bradley. Oliver. I'm sorry. To Oliver. Yeah. And. But whatever that. Okay, so let's. I'll. I'll take that statement off the table, but it should have been done, and I can pretty much guarantee it was done.
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You said that it was or wasn't.
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Should have been done. And I. I can guarantee any law enforcement officer is actually working Bradley case has checked in to any type of financial records. The first one you're going to check is the feds. You know, I mean, Bradley making what he was making. I'm sure he was getting some money back every year.
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Or.
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Or. Or is he working a job anywhere that he's having to fill out a W9 for what have you?
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I can tell you this about a conversation about a stimulus check. It didn't happen. They never once. And back then, we were communicating a lot, and often they never once called me and said, hey, Morgan, he's probably okay. A stimulus check was cash or he filed taxes. And so I guarantee you they did not look into that. And if they didn't, after they hear this, they're going to date it for back.
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Yeah, well, they. They should have. They didn't, so I'll retract that statement. All right, so Tony and I haven't watched it yet. What. What is it? Is she did, like, a YouTube video where she threw some shade on you?
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Yeah, there was. There was a video. Basically, she did a podcast. It was a very long podcast. I don't even know who the guy is, but it's like an hour and something long. And she throws tons of shade on me. She talks horribly about me. She blames me for his addiction, says that he didn't even have an addiction until we divorced and that I kept Oliver from him to hurt him. And. And. Okay, so it's. It's actually, I just found it. It's called the Danger zone. It's on YouTube, and it's Bradley Chase, Stray center, the Danger Zone. Now, I'm going to tell you, by the end of this podcast, this dude that is interviewing her is definitely questioning her. Like, he's pressing really hard, and you can tell that he can tell that something's up. But about 24 minutes in, she just totally trashes my name. So in the beginning, Bradley and I did live with my mother. Bradley couldn't provide, and we. We had Oliver. I was pregnant with Oliver. We had Oliver. At this point, Tony tries to say that my mom controlled our marriage. Anybody who knows Morgan Baggott knows that. Nobody controls Morgan Baggott. My mama, her, you. That I will be the first to tell my mama or anyone else to butt out of anything or any situation. My mom knows that when I need or want her advice or her opinion, I will ask it. And in 32 years of my life, my mom has learned to not give it unless I ask, because I'm not going to take her advice. I'm. I'm my own person, and I'm Stubborn as they come. And I would have never let somebody intervene in my marriage or my parenting. She even said that my mom controlled every aspect of. Of raising Oliver. And that woman, Tony James, is so full of shit. My. I cannot even tell you what my poor mama said when she listened to this podcast. She come in there with her phone. She was gritting her teeth, talking through her teeth. But. But, yeah, my mom. She even said that Riley paid the note on my mom's home. So my mother actually had divorced my father after 21 years. Long overdue. And she had a boyfriend for many years, and that boyfriend is the one who bought that home that she was living in and paying that note that we were all living in. Not rally, but Tony tries to say that Bradley was even paying my mom's house note. She's done lost her marbles, which I knew that a long time ago, but it made me upset all over again about everything when I listened to that.
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And. And what else does she say about you?
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She. She talks about the last time that I saw Bradley, whenever. Whenever Bradley wanted to meet up and see Oliver. And I said, yeah, you know, let's. Let's do that. And. And I brought the. She. She tried to say that I didn't even bring Oliver, and that is so far from the truth. Oliver was present on the premises. He was in the vehicle with my sister. And I told Bradley, you know, you're gonna have to take him past this drug test, and I will go get Oliver and we'll visit. And so I don't know how she come up with all that and how she thought she would get away with just flat out lying about all those things. But that's fine. Somebody reminded me of something, and that's what really finally drove me to speaking out against her. And it's. If you tell lies about me, I will tell the truth about you. And I held my tongue and I kept the peace for far too long, and I just really couldn't stand it anymore. And there's so many people over the years who has reached out to me. I literally couldn't even give you the number. It is so high. People who say or believe or think, they say Tony either had something to do with what happened to Bradley, or she knows what happened to Bradley and why it happened. Now my heart can't take it. I do not believe that Tony had direct involvement with what happened to Bradley. Like, I don't think she said, hey, you know, he needs to die. I do believe with all of my heart that Tony knows something that she's not saying to save her own ass in her own face, but if she thinks that she still has people fooled, she's so sorely mistaken.
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What about the counterfeit money? What part did Tony play in it?
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Well, Danny K has always been involved in fraudulent things. And one of the things, aside from his arrest history that I can't find, which is strange, but that's another story. It's a known fact that counterfeit money was always involved. Apparently, according to what I'm hearing from people, Tony and Danny K were having Bradley pay people for drugs with counterfeit money.
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Did I have heard that? And I've never told you this, I've heard that at least 12 different people. I mean from a lot of different people. So just throwing that in there, but that's why I asked you the question about it.
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But yeah, I mean that's, that's the extent of what I know. But, but I know there, there was tons of fraud, tons of fraud going on in the. Them tons of counterfeit money being passed around. I don't know if the charges stuck, but there, there were arrests made involving my like, I forget what it said.
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Monetary, fraudulent, something, counter, counterfeit money production. That is basically what it boils down to.
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Yeah. And that's a known fact about him. I'm not just viewing lies. It's like a thing. Everybody knows it.
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Let me tell you something. If I'm a drug dealer especially, and who would ever believe Sonola Cartel and dug into it, but I'm not saying it was solo cartel or the motorcycle games that people keep calling me about and what have you and whatnot. But if I'm an organization like that, and that's what they do for a living, is sell drugs and make money and if you get out of line, they take care, period. And everybody in the world knows it's gone to the point in Mexico where they're killing chiefs of police and mayors and in open broad daylight and, and don't care. But you think they'd do to somebody, little country boy from Vernon Parish who passes them fake money.
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And, and I'm just wondering because of a story that I heard about a couple of weeks before he went missing. An individual says that they went to Country Manor Apartments to buy drugs and they show up and Bradley is trying to pay the guy with counterfeit money and whatever starts trying to go down and, and the dude that went with Bradley was like, I ain't got no part of this. Y' all take me home, yada yada yada. He Said that was the last time he ever saw Bradley. A couple weeks later, he finds out he went missing. But. But is it going to happen over a small amount or is it going to have to be a significant amount, or does it not matter.
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To the cartel? It doesn't matter to if I'm. If it's my business. It wouldn't matter to me if you did it with a $20 bill or $20,000. You did it if. If I don't handle you, then my street cred gets ruined and everybody thinks they could do this shit to me. I'm not saying that's what happened. I'm just floating that out there. But let me tell you something. Doesn't matter. It doesn't matter. If that is the case, and I'm not going to tell you all all the different angles. I'm going at the. But the. Certainly that's one of them. But the if that is the case, nobody deserves to be murdered, period. Right.
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When you said there's too much going on, you're right, because I. I try hard. Every time I think about it that my brain almost shorts out. You know, we literally have insurance fraud. We know that the letter says that it was prov. Were arrested for the arson. He mentioned even the insurance owners and that he went and talked to them, the agency owners, and that they said you need to shut your mouth and go back to work. And then he mentions his boss, Bill English. And so we've got insurance fraud, we've got counterfeit money, we've got drugs. And I can't make sense of any of it.
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Well, it's not too much. I should have said it like this. It's. It's not too much. Okay? It can never be too much. But every angle has to be followed. And from investigator standpoint. And the so you know, keep calling you tips and other people have called and said it was different things and those have to be looked at. Two things we're not going to talk about today, but there was definitely some shit going on. And Deb Bradley didn't get murdered for no reason. He is not. An overdose in the woods somewhere is what I'm telling you, to boot it all up. Austin Abanion. We know for a fact that she said she was there. And the. Whether she's telling the whole truth, you know, about being raped and held, you know, held captive and all that, whatever, I don't know. But we know she was there. And according to the Vernon Parish Sheriff's Office, Detective Vance. And he told the whole world well, that girl, she knows what she's talking about. She passed her polygraph on Bradley Strayston's case. Etcetera, etc, etcetera. The. The. You know, these crimes are not committed inside a vacuum. They're not committed by choir boys and girl scouts. The. That murder is murder, and it's wrong no matter who it happens to or who does it. And that's a fact with the. It's a lot. It's a lot. But the. You know, if this was a probable cause case, if I was a detective working it, honest to God, I would have made several arrests already, right? The. The biggest one that I'm on, I would have made the rest. Because to make an arrest, you only need probable cause, which is 50% plus one. But then once you make the arrest, the reason you would make it at probable cause is because you. You're at a point in the investigation where you've taken it to the wall. You know. You know, you got 50% plus one, and a lot of times you can have 75 or 80%, but you need to press across that line, right, to get beyond a reasonable doubt. And the only thing you have left to do is arrest the person, which. You have enough information to get a warrant. You arrest a person or the people, and you see who's going to flip. And they almost always do if you're a good investigator. It's what I call getting the juice. And they. They give up the juice. You know why? Because they can all be thick as thieves and. And besties and, you know, rider dies and all that to the bracelets go on. And you see you, your partner sitting across the hall and another interview room, and the detectives going between. Two of you say, which one of you wants to talk first? And, yeah, that shit's happening. The. It just is. And the. They know. If you don't think I know. Look, a lot people know this, but you are. You're always sending me screenshots and recordings of people and whatever. A lot of times I've already talked to these people or. Or been messaging with them, and I have it. And sometimes I have. You know, I haven't. Right. But if you don't think there are people out there who are trying to interject themselves into this investigation to throw us off the track or just to find out where we're at, right, Try to find out more than what we're saying on the podcast, then you're crazy. I know you understand that, Morgan, but I want to. All on top of everything else is going on all the work that's being done. You got all these people who are trying to work against you. You know why? Because they're murderers and they don't want to go to prison for the rest of their life. But we're going to keep dancing. It's simple mathematics. We're going to keep dancing. And let's just delve off into this topic because it's just popping in my head. The you. If I was Sam Kraft, the sheriff. Now, keep in mind. Yeah. Morgan's been a pain in my ass for however long. Since her advance quit not palling around, but since Vance quit confiding in her and all. Since Austin stuff, basically. And the. Yeah. Gag orders or NDAs. Y' all heard about that on the last episode. And guess what? Done more. The. The. The lawyer. Karate or kung fu is not over. Thomas Davenport has sent more and more specifically detailed requests. And we'll get into that next week. But the. If you think Sam Crab. I. If I'm a sheriff, I absolutely. And I know for a fact that the. Besides the NDA stuff. And we'll get in that later. But I know he's told people. I know from deputies themselves that he said, you can't say a word about Bradley Strasner ever. Right.
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A
Yeah.
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B
And. But that being said, the biggest thing I'd be doing is I'd have every swinging Dick, Tom and Harry in my department working on this case because I want to solve it where I don't look like a jackass. Right. Before they uncover that, you know, something was done wrong. And look, even if something was done wrong, and I'm not saying it was, but not. Not done wrong, obviously something was done wrong. But even if something was done nefariously by someone in law enforcement to help cover it up or whatever, I'm not saying it is at all, y'. All. I'm just saying even if it was, and I'm the sheriff and I find out, I want to get in front of that freight train and I'll have that arrest or them arrested, too. And that. And I'm going to give you Bradley's faceless murder. Right. And all the things that haven't been done are being done. All right? And it's almost. I'm not going to call it a race, but you better believe Vernon Parish Sheriff's Office, if they can prove it beyond a reasonable doubt. They're trying. They're working our ass off to get it done before real life, real crime and the life. Because of real life, real crime.
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A
They had six years this Conversation. They had six years to do that.
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B
Yes.
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A
So why now? Why is it important?
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B
Because. Because. Because it's now an ape. We always called them an ape. Now it's an acute political emergency, and the fact that they have to tell people not to talk about it and everything else. The. You better believe if it can be solved. I'm gonna be honest with you. Not too my own horn. The real difference is now is it's on real life, real crime. It's not on the podcast that you did before. It's not on a podcast that you did before or all your TikTok videos. It's not because of that. Because they were just figuring you're gonna fade away, right? Well, now the whole world knows about Bradley and Austin and they are catching heat like never before. And you know what it. I don't care who solves it. I hope. Hey, wait a minute. That's where what. You know, you and I are gonna have to dis. Agree to disagree on some things. And I'm not saying they shouldn't catch heat for the bad that was or wasn't done. And that can come later on. All I give a about is bringing Bradley home. First of all, finding his body so y' all can give Oliver a place to visit and you can have a place to visit. I don't care who solves it. And I'm gonna make that abundantly clear. I don't give a. I want it saw. I'm. Yeah. I certainly believe I'm. Wait, hold on. Wait, wait, wait. I certainly believe that I'm gonna solve before they do. But if they solve for me, great. Then. Then let the dust settle and we'll hash out every little detail what was and wasn't done. Because if they solve it now that they're even to the. If they'd just done their job all those years ago, we wouldn't even be you and I would have never met. Now. It's okay. It's okay. But it didn't happen, right? So we can't the. That it didn't happen. But now if they solve it before I do and they get confessions and whatever, you know, what have you. If they solve before I do, they got some explaining to do once the dust. But, but, but. But I know you pissed off. Hold on one second. I know you're livid. I know you. You hate it with a passion. And I get that. I want the case solved. If they beat me, so be it. Great. I don't give a fuck. Then. Then they. They will. The. What makes it worse and harder for them to solve now is they have to solve it with an eye on the past or how they fucked up and why it wasn't solved in the past. And they know they're going to have to answer for that one day, right? And, and so I know you, you rightfully so. Hey, why are you finally working it now? And blah, blah, blah and what have you. Well, you know what? Who cares? Let them work it. And, and, and I don't think they're going to be me. But if they do the, then they, they still got to answer for it. They still got to answer for what was it.
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A
Thank you for saying that because that's what I wanted to say. They sure, sure, let them solve it because you know what? You and I have helped them out. But, but if they do solve it, it does not excuse how horribly they failed us for so long and their entire parish failed us.
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B
Hey, you, you, you and I are saying the same thing at different speeds. You the, I totally agree with you that if they solve it, then you know, awesome, right? But I'm telling you, if they solve it, that's when the real sledgehammers come out because, and you and they're going to get beat to death with why didn't you do this? Why did you do that? And you know what? Sometimes in law enforcement you just got to take your lick. If I was a sheriff and the case was messed up on my watch and whatever, and look it's happened. Denny Perkins, you know, he and I used to work together. Now he's doing 99 plus years for raping kids and all that. And he was head of training, head of swat. But the deal being is fuck them. The, the, you got to go on and be sheriff. And if you're true sheriff and you're not involved in any way, and I'm not certainly not saying that he is that, but you can solve it six years later, somebody's got some explaining to do.
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A
And that I won't go into detail, but I literally just had that conversation with someone. He, Sam Kraft has been the sheriff for 26 years. And we won't talk about what we feel about those 26 years. But what I will say is he thought it was gonna be a smooth ending. And I really fucked that up for him, didn't I?
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B
Yes you did. Yes you did. And you know what? He, according to Austin's daddy, you know, he told her she didn't have a mark on her. And we thank God we, we have the proof that proves otherwise. And, and so, but I think that's probably, probably him getting, you know, the word, an Oship moment, what have you and saying, you know, maybe he took his detective's words that she didn't have a mark on her. Well, somebody's lying because she did. But the, that's what all that to be said to get to this and is I want you to go on the record right now that I'm going to record. I want you to go on the record stating you don't say who. Stating what you heard the Vernon Parish Sheriff's Office was going to DTU and why.
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A
Heard it through the grapevine that eventually, who knows, at some point in time, their plan is to arrest me. Basically what it boils down to is for obstruction of justice because I did my own digging and especially real hard and heavy in this past year and withheld information from them because the communication, the trust was all gone. That's why if anybody needed a why. But anyway, and for intervening. But I did what I felt like wasn't being done. So when they come knocking, I'll hold my wrist out and I guess I'll get a cop car ride.
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B
Okay, so let me, let me tell you about that. And you know when you told me that I was like, I wish a would. Right. But they, that would be just. But it doesn't matter if, if that ever happens. First of all, I actually did not. I, I, I don't want you to go to jail, sweetie. But they, but, but, but, but, but, but if that happened and they tried to arrest you, first of all, no judge in the world is going to sign that warrant. But if they do, if they do, lifers, listen to me now. I think we're like four hours apart. Morgan driving distance, three and a half, four without traffic. All right, if they do, that'll be the one time you can call me before you call 91 1. I will make it there in two hours and I will be there to bond you out personally.
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A
You're gonna get an escort or just flashers.
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B
I'm not gonna, I'm not gonna divulge all my secrets. The, the, I might take a helicopter and land on the roof there. But what I'm telling you is if you get arrested now, I'm not talking about they pick you up for prostitution or something because we all know you have a problem with that. I'm just teasing or drugs or whatever. Anyway, if you get arrested for obstruction of justice for investigating Bradley's case and ultimately turning me on to Bradley's case, And now Austin's case, you get arrested for that, I swear to you, I probably have a lawyer there before I can get there. We will have you out before you. You can be processed. Okay. But I can also pretty much guarantee you that's, you know, you heard it from a couple ways through the grapevine. And I get that they're probably. It's just like I was saying earlier, they're feeding back, trying to mess, you know, get you off your game and get me off my game. But this, there's no truth to that. The other than this is delay, tact, or with her tacket try to scare you tactic. And in the. If they do that, they do that, you'll be one of the richest women in Burnham Parish.
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A
To be honest with you, Woody, not that I was truly scared of it. You know, obviously nobody wants to go to jail, but I've truly kind of been expecting something like that. But I'm going to tell you something. I don't believe I've ever told you this before. It wasn't very long at all after I started TikTok. And hey, I may really screw myself by saying this, but I was speeding. Speed limit on Highway 10 is 55. I was speeding and I got lit up. Vernon Parrish was behind me. They lit me up and I started looking for a place to pull over. And we're in Kissachee National Forest. And then just as fast as those lights came on, they went back off. And that cruiser, that officer passed me and was looking out his passenger window into my driver's side window at me and just flew on around me. And then I was like, well, that was strange. Maybe he got a bigger fish than me.
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B
Right.
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A
Okay. Okay. A couple weeks later, and I had been knowing and knowing and knowing I'm a procrastinator that I need to. To renew my tags. I need to renew my registration. They're expired at this point. I got lit up again and I was like, well, I got off last time, but I think on I'm. I got got this time. Same exact thing with expired tags. They lit me up and they went right back off. And then the same exact thing flew around me, past me looking in their passenger window into my driver's side window and went on about their business.
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B
Yeah, well, I'm not, you know, on the record again, and I know how you feel about it. I'm not going to say that I have any proof of malfeasance in office by anybody at Vernon Parish Sheriff's Office that I'm producing Yet. All right, so the.
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A
Understood.
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B
So. And, and what I want to conclude this with y'. All. It's. It's important like last week when we did legal stuff and, and all that to let y' all know we're attacking it from all angles. Sometimes it's important for me to talk to Morgan and so you can get the inside stuff on different things. How complex this is like talking about Tony Bradley, STR's biological mother. And there's literally tons of pages and pages and pages of text messages and, and stuff that Morgan has and all that just. This is not the only things we're looking at. People, they. Everything is being worked. But sometimes to give you just a little more juice in this area to keep you fired up, I mean you'd be like, what the right. And. And keep calling in your tips. Three one, three R LRC tip. Bradley, it's like five weeks away and from six years. You know, it didn't deserve to be murdered. And everybody. If you are murdered, you certainly deserve to have your case worked. All right, so when I. And I didn't look, we had so much more different shit we got talked about. And I will say it again, that there's photographs and stuff like that that we're going to get into, but I just wasn't quite ready for that yet because I got, I got more digging or more fillers out right now. And I mean there's some pretty serious shit in those. But I'm not ready to burn that bridge yet.
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A
And I'm ready for you to burn that bridge.
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B
I know, I know. Anyway, but the, the. And I've got my professional opinion exactly about things in those. But that's just, you know, when talk about it, it's from all angles and all these things are being worked and just got to get probable not probable cause beyond a reasonable doubt. And it's coming. Is. But this case is going on. You know, how long it's going to take Morgan to solve this is exactly how long it takes and not a minute more. Okay. It might be tonight, it might be two months. I don't know. Because the. You know, it just doesn't stop. And it is what it is.
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A
We're talking about that. Woody, I wanna, I wanna say one thing. It's today, September 17th.
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B
That's correct.
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A
Okay. The six year anniversary of Bradley's disappearance is very quickly approaching. And it gets. Oh my Lord. Does it get tough around this time? Yeah, especially. Especially once mid October hits. It's just straight doom.
- [58:53]
B
Yeah, I get it. Well, I, I Hatefully always call them the murder versus and I hate to use that term, but it is what it is. The. The but. And I understand that. But y' all, Morgan, thanks for calling in and talking. And the, you know, lifers continue to call in your tips. All you good people in burning Parish, God bless you because there are so many people to call every single day and send stuff and, and what have you and, and you know, please continue to do it. We're going to continue to work it. And I love and appreciate every one of y'. All. Morgan, you want to say bye?
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A
Yeah, Bye everybody. And, and thank you all so much from the absolute bottom of my heart. And thank you, Woody. And thank you, Ms. City Cindy.
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B
Yeah, and y' all at the I hadn't even done a tick tock this week about it. I guess I'll do it tonight or tomorrow. But the, you know, Patreon convicts get it early. Cindy can get it out commercial free and early and everybody else is going to get it on Saturday. The. In the episode, this, this episode and future episodes unless I change it up again. Sometimes things happen and I'm waiting on something and may, I may push it back a day or two or I may drop it early. I've done both in this case. But the it's coming, it's being worked and now I guarantee it's being worked from all sides, including law enforcement on the other end. But hang in there. Love and appreciate each and every one of you. Oh, you can go to Morgan's TikTok page. It's where is Bradley Strasner, right? Morgan?
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A
Yeah, that's right.
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B
Whereas Bradley Stricer, she's got like 40 something thousand followers. And I do, you know, I have 20 something, maybe mid 20s. But the she usually does a post, you know, maybe once a week or a couple times a week, whatever she feels. If you really, if you want to go dive into it and get more about the stuff in the case, then what I'm giving you an hour a week. Then go check out her. Her. Tick tock. Where is Bradley Stricer? But anyway, I love and appreciate each and every one of y'. All. Thank you for liking listening and sharing. And I'm Woody Overton, your host of Real Life Real Crown the podcast. Until next time or ever. Don't let me catch you down on murder by you. Pe. You have the right to remain silent. Anything you say can and will be used against you in a court of law. You gotta write to an attorney prior to it during any question. But you can't afford one, the court of appoint one for you. Do you understand your rights.
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A
And the wolf is at your goal? Oh, you running so that's for sure Already knows all about you, Cut you down no matter about you now you better walk.
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B
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