Real Life Real Crime | #JusticeForBradley ep 2 Encore

Summary

Real Life Real Crime | #JusticeForBradley Ep 2 Encore

Host: Woody Overton
Guest: Morgan Baggot
Date: November 30, 2025

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Episode Overview

This episode continues the in-depth chronicle of the unsolved disappearance of Bradley Striesner as part of the #JusticeForBradley series on Real Life Real Crime. Host Woody Overton and Bradley’s ex-wife, Morgan Baggot, revisit critical developments in the case, including the community response, investigative challenges, law enforcement actions, and persistent rumors surrounding Bradley’s fate. Morgan details her shift from concerned family member to tireless advocate for justice, highlighting the struggles and barriers faced in rural, small-town crime investigations. The episode sets up the discovery of a mysterious letter and teases major revelations for the next installment.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

The Thanksgiving Slump and Ongoing Advocacy

• Woody acknowledges the time of year: Notes holidays typically slow podcast traffic but asserts the Bradley case momentum continues thanks to dedicated listeners and tip lines.

• Encouragement to keep tips coming: He reminds listeners the Vernon Parish community is feeling “the heat” as the case receives attention, and reminds the audience of their role in crowd-sourcing information.

• Quote – Woody:
  “Y’all keep the information flowing... We’re still working the case... We’re gonna get justice and we’re going to continue to work.” (05:00)

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Cold Case Timeline & Critical Early Actions

• Morgan recounts the early days:

  • Bradley borrowed his girlfriend Chelsea’s (actually, her grandmother’s) car and went missing after visiting Sandy Hill—a known rough area outside the now-renamed Fort Johnson (formerly Fort Polk).
  • His struggles with addiction and erratic but loving relationship with his family set the scene—familial concern initially dampened by his pattern of going missing.
  • The car was recovered near Shady Oaks Trailer Park, unlocked with keys inside. Initially, there was little suspicion.

• Woody and Morgan clarify timelines:

  • The missing persons report was filed six days after last contact.
  • Early family responses were generally unconcerned, chalking up Bradley’s absence to his past behavior.
  • After weeks and no word, concern grew as all rumors and supposed sightings proved unfounded.

• Quote – Morgan:
  “There come a point after a couple of weeks where we’re all, like, ‘Did you hear from Bradley?’ No. Nobody has. Okay. So I slowly start to get concerned, and then just information starts coming in.” (18:15)

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Boots-On-the-Ground Investigation: Morgan’s Role

• Morgan’s transformation from family to investigator:

  • Heavily pregnant, she canvasses Sandy Hill with flyers, talking to locals, following every rumor, sometimes facing open hostility or stonewalling.
  • Unusual silence from certain people (e.g., Jason and Danielle) stands out against the broader community’s willingness to talk.

• Quote – Morgan:
  “I’m knocking on doors, talking to people and stomping through the woods... whatever one person says, I follow up...” (20:12)

• Encounters hint at red flags:

  • Certain individuals refuse to engage or warn her to stay away.
  • The community otherwise buzzes with rumors—she has to separate signal from noise with little support.

• Woody provides perspective:

  • Suggests silence may not be proof of guilt but reasonable post-police-visit behavior.
  • Emphasizes everyone’s a suspect early in a missing persons case.

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Law Enforcement Response and Polygraph Details

• Contact with detectives:

  • Morgan interacts with two detectives—Sly and later Vance.
  • Sly assures no warrants are out, Bradley had no reason to run.
  • Vance takes over, confirms Jason and Danielle brought in after search warrant is served.
  • Both take polygraphs, with one inconclusive and one failed. They then lawyer up.

• Woody dissects police actions:

  • Polygraph details explained (how results are read, possible countermeasures).
  • Notes legal protocols for warrants and the difficulty of collecting evidence long after the fact.
  • Frustration with the lack of follow-through, but also notes early limits in considering the car as evidence.

• Quote – Woody:
  “You can’t just go get a fucking search warrant for no reason... you have to go before a judge, you have to write it out...” (38:05)

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Social Media, Rumors, and Family Agony

• Rumors run rampant:

  • From plausible to outlandish (wood chipper, bodies found, etc.), Morgan has to triage a flood of misinformation.
  • Social media becomes a double-edged sword: effective for sharing photos and requests, overwhelming for rumor-mongering.

• Media picks up the case:

  • The first real news coverage arrives years in, led by outlets like KPLC.
  • Sheriff Sam Kraft is quoted on air stating they now suspect foul play.

• Quote – Sheriff (via KPLC), Jay Morrow reporting:
  “According to the Vernon Parish Sheriff’s Office, the vehicle unlocked, keys laying in the seat. Bradley has not been seen since nor has any viable information regarding his disappearance surfaced... the sheriff’s office said they believe that foul play is probably involved.” (55:06–55:45)

• Family’s emotional burden:

  • Morgan and Bradley’s mother both experience an eventual, gut-driven realization that Bradley is not coming back.
  • Morgan’s role as an advocate is further solidified, especially motivated by their son Oliver.

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The Mysterious Letter and New Revelations

• Introduction of Bradley’s "letter":

  • Teased near the end, Morgan confirms that, after Bradley was missing, a letter in his handwriting was recovered from under the AC unit of a hotel room—where Bradley had apparently told someone it would be if he ever disappeared.
  • This game-changing clue is set as the focus for the next episode.

• Quote – Woody:
  “This letter comes out... it’s like Bradley speaking from the grave. He was telling ahead of time, whoever he told—and we’ll talk about in the next episode—that something happens to me, I taped a letter to the bottom of the AC unit in a particular room in a particular hotel.” (58:57)

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• Morgan:
  “Everywhere I went, everybody wanted to talk about the missing guy, Bradley Stracer... except a handful of people. Immediate red flags.” (27:52)

• Woody:
  “If you would talk to Morgan Baggott when she’s seven and a half months pregnant, knocking on your door just trying to find... Bradley, hoping he’s still alive—talk to this old homicide detective.” (62:14)

• Morgan (on motherhood vs. investigation):
  “If I didn’t have kids, I would have already solved this case.” (71:40)

• Morgan:
  “My brain is smoking right now, for sure, just listening to you.” (65:42)

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• [04:51] – Woody introduces the episode’s context; Thanksgiving weekend and ongoing case work.
• [07:34] – Morgan joins; they begin recapping Bradley’s last known movements.
• [13:05] – Discussion of the car location, timeline confusions, and family initial reactions.
• [18:46] – Rumor mill, fake and unsubstantiated “sightings.”
• [20:10] – Morgan describes starting her own investigation, early obstacles.
• [27:08] – Encountering silence/hostility at key houses.
• [30:46] – Family gut realization during Thanksgiving; Morgan resolves to escalate search.
• [34:04] – First contact with Detective Sly, then handoff to Detective Vance.
• [41:21] – Polygraph details and explanations from Woody.
• [50:01] – Morgan describes feeling “placated” by law enforcement and gaps in support.
• [54:06] – First major news segment aired by KPLC; family’s heartbreak and plea.
• [58:53] – Teaser: revelation of Bradley’s hidden letter and its potential significance.
• [62:14] – Woody’s rallying cry for tips and communal involvement.

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Tone & Narrative Style

Woody Overton maintains his characteristic blend of direct, gritty, conversational storytelling and procedural expertise. The atmosphere is emotionally raw—intensified by Morgan’s first-person recollections and admissions of pain, frustration, and exhaustion. The episode frequently swings between righteous anger (at injustice and inaction), mournful reflection (regret, confusion, loss), and unyielding determination (advocacy, hope, challenge). The tone is urgent, personal, and unsparingly human.

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Takeaways

• The case is a heartbreaking, complicated cold case with ample small-town rumor, probable foul play, but few solid leads.
• Family, especially Morgan, played a crucial investigative and advocacy role where law enforcement moved slowly or inconsistently.
• Major developments ahead—especially surrounding Bradley’s premonitory, “just-in-case” letter.
• The show calls for audience action: sharing, calling in tips, and keeping social attention focused.

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Next Episode Preview

The next episode will delve into Bradley’s mysterious letter—described as “Bradley speaking from the grave”—and how its discovery may unravel new truths about his disappearance and the suspects involved.

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Tip Line:
Call tips related to the case, remain anonymous if needed.

Hashtags:
#JusticeForBradley #JusticeForAo

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For Listeners New to the Series:

This episode recounts a rural Louisiana disappearance haunted by addiction, suspicion, and lost opportunities, as recounted by those closest to the victim. It’s as much about the heartbreak of the search as it is about gritty investigative work, with the promise of significant revelations yet to come.

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[Morgan Baggot]

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Hello everybody. This is Woody Overton, your host of Real Life, Real Crime, the podcast. And it's Thanksgiving weekend and we hope you all are having a wonderful time with your family and friends and eating a lot of food and watching some football, maybe hunting, taking a nap, whatever it is that you want to do. Right? And it's also the little this week and Christmas week are the worst week of the year for podcasts because nobody listens, everybody's shopping and doing everything. And that's fine. But so instead of doing a new episode on Just for Bradley and just four ao, we are going to play Saturday the first episode we ever did on Bradley, and Sunday the second episode we ever did on Bradley. And y' all keep calling in your tips for 13 RLRC tip and all the groups are out there working the Facebook pages they got going. Y' all keep the information flowing. The heat every if you had live in Vernon Parish, you already know how hot it is over there and and the things that are going on behind the scenes. We're still working the case, you know, praying for Morgan Baggott and and everybody that's involved. And we're going to get justice and we're going to continue to work and continue calling you tips. Things are happening. Everybody is feeling the heat. Some big we'll do a big episode this coming week and some people on the run. I've got the information on that. I don't have to go into details, and I'm not going to go into details until we have some farther. But it'll probably be released for patreon of convicts on Thursday. But I love and appreciate each and every one of y'.

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Hashtag just for a peace. Hello, everybody, and welcome to this episode of Real Life, Real Crime, the podcast. As always, I'm your host, Woody Overton. Today we're continuing the series hashtag justice for Bradley. And it's Bradley Stracer. And in the studio again, I have Ms. Morgan Baggot. Hello, Ms. Morgan.

[Morgan Baggot]

Hello, Mr. Woody.

[Woody Overton]

Right. Rolling with episode number two. And y', all, we're going to drop these every Friday as we always do, the hashtag justice4series. You please continue to share it. Share Bradley's story everywhere. We're just scratching the tip of the surface. This story has a ton twists and turns and bad elements and bad actors, etc. So just share, share, share. All right, Morgan?

[Morgan Baggot]

Yes, sir. Absolutely.

[Woody Overton]

All right. And so the tip line, we'll have it in all our social media. Please continue calling your tips. No tip is too big or too small. I'm going to work them all. If you want to talk to me, that's fine. If you don't, you can just leave information. But this is going to be a fluid active investigation. Boots on the ground. Yes, the bad people have been born by now. They've listened to the first episode and they're listening to this one. And I'm coming for you. So go turn yourself in. Save us all some time. Maybe they already did it. Morgan is this is dropping a week late, but probably not right who wants to go turn themselves in for murder?

[Morgan Baggot]

Well, it'd be easier.

[Woody Overton]

Yeah, well, it definitely would be easier, but nothing worth having is easy.

[Morgan Baggot]

Not just for us, for them too.

[Woody Overton]

You've been carrying the. The. This fight for Bradley. Bradley Stricer for five years. Any.

[Morgan Baggot]

I think five years and eight months to be exact.

[Woody Overton]

Five years and eight months. Okay, so real quick, Patreon and convicts, we will have some bonus materials put up for y'.

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[Morgan Baggot]

Yes sir.

[Woody Overton]

Right. So when we left you left you last. Bradley had. Had barred his girlfriend Chelsea's car and gone wherever. Right.

[Morgan Baggot]

Sandy Hill.

[Woody Overton]

Sandy Hill. And and is Sandy Hill like a narcotics area or something?

[Morgan Baggot]

Yeah, it's. There's some pretty rough areas in it. There's not much there. It was once booming. It's right outside of the military base.

[Woody Overton]

And I spent some time there.

[Morgan Baggot]

So formerly Fort Polk is now Fort Johnson, is it? Yeah.

[Woody Overton]

I didn't know change names that I was at Fort Polk when it was Fort Polk and. And I went to pldc Primary Leadership Development Course, otherwise known as Sergeant school there. I also taught classes there the first Gulf War, which you. I don't even think you were born yet. And yeah, a lot of time over there over the years so that we really renamed it Fort Johnson.

[Morgan Baggot]

Yeah. And. And I did research on it. It became Fort Polk JRTC just a couple of days after I was Bo 1993 in March and then right after.

[Woody Overton]

So last time I was actually on the base but I've been back to Leville and DeRidder and all that numerous times throughout my career with state police and as polygraphist and criminal consultant on defense cases and stuff like that.

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[Woody Overton]

Bradley is missing, but not Totally unusual for Bradley. As we told you, Bradley battled drug addiction, but he was a good dude who went down the wormhole narcotics and ultimately lost his wife and son. Didn't lose him. They always had love for him. But the. You had to make tough decisions and told about it on the last episode, the last time that you saw him. And then. But you also told about when you got the phone call, and they're like, bradley's missing. You're like, typical, right? This family was like, typical. And then the car, when Chelsea calls, Riley doesn't have a cell phone. And the two people he was with, I guess, said, oh, he's going to bring it back. But they reported stolen. So now sheriff's office shows up, car stolen. They turn it back over to the family.

[Morgan Baggot]

Yes.

[Woody Overton]

All right, what happens next?

[Morgan Baggot]

So that's just one day.

[Woody Overton]

Keys were on the seat. No damage to the car. And actually where the car was parked. And correct me if I'm wrong, it's not that far from where Chelsea live, right?

[Morgan Baggot]

Well, it's not too far from where Chelsea lives. It's. It's maybe. Maybe 20 miles, but it's even.

[Woody Overton]

And I could boom this out. But I thought the car was found not that far from who. Wherever residence it was.

[Morgan Baggot]

Correct. But that was not Chelsea's house.

[Woody Overton]

Whose house was it?

[Morgan Baggot]

Tell me about that. Okay. Jason and Danielle. Bradley was. Chelsea was calling Jason and Danielle's phone. That's. That's two of the individuals were with.

[Woody Overton]

Him that were relaying the message that.

[Morgan Baggot]

He'S gonna bring out. Yes. Correct.

[Woody Overton]

Okay.

[Morgan Baggot]

Yeah.

[Woody Overton]

So it's. It's safe to use her name. It's public, right?

[Morgan Baggot]

Yes. Yes.

[Woody Overton]

So when Chelsea is calling like, hey, I need my car back. I gotta get my kid. It's my grandma's car. She's gonna bust my ass. And they're, like, acting like I was talking to him.

[Morgan Baggot]

Yeah, we'll let him know. He said he's coming back.

[Woody Overton]

They weren't saying he was there in the room with him. So tell me what happened with them that day.

[Morgan Baggot]

Yeah.

[Woody Overton]

To the best of your knowledge.

[Morgan Baggot]

So. To the best of my knowledge. And Chelsea, his girlfriend, could confirm this. He leaves her house in her car, in her grandmother's car, and he's going to Jason and Danielle's and he's going to his mother's. And he was at both of those locations multiple times that day.

[Woody Overton]

We know he went to his mom's.

[Morgan Baggot]

Yes.

[Woody Overton]

Is that the. When she said. He said, bye, I love you. I'll be back later.

[Morgan Baggot]

Yeah.

[Woody Overton]

And Then I don't know about the other two. Jason.

[Morgan Baggot]

Jason and Danielle. That's. That's the house, the. The couple's home that he was visiting. They lived in a trailer in Shady Oaks Trailer Park.

[Woody Overton]

Okay.

[Morgan Baggot]

And there's a road where the vehicle was found. You can drive down the road and it wise. And either way, it dead ends. But at the beginning of that road is the trailer park, which is just a loop, which is where Jason and Danielle's house was. It's exactly 0.9 miles.

[Woody Overton]

Yeah.

[Morgan Baggot]

From where the car was found.

[Woody Overton]

Yeah.

[Morgan Baggot]

To Jason and Danielle's house.

[Woody Overton]

So it's not far from my thought. My next thought is, when Chelsea's calling them, they're saying, hey, we'll relay the message. Bradley doesn't have a cell phone. How they can relay the message? Because evidently they're waiting on there off and on. They're waiting on him to come back.

[Morgan Baggot]

Yes.

[Woody Overton]

So he's out and about doing whatever. So did you do. Do we know if the couple in the trailer park at Shady Oaks or his mom was last one sent?

[Morgan Baggot]

I. I don't know.

[Woody Overton]

Okay. But they did. The couple in trailer parks home that day.

[Morgan Baggot]

Multiple times.

[Woody Overton]

Multiple times. And we can only assume what he's doing at this point. Right. And so we don't know. His mom says by what have you and the cars recovered and what happens in the days after?

[Morgan Baggot]

Well, I don't know much that's going on until November 5th, when. When she filed. Officially filed a missing person report.

[Woody Overton]

And she being his mother.

[Morgan Baggot]

His mother, Tony.

[Woody Overton]

And how do you know that she did it? How did you learn that she did that?

[Morgan Baggot]

Because they put out, you know, a welfare concern post on social media after she did that. They being the sheriff's office. Vernon Parish Sheriff's office.

[Woody Overton]

And what. What did it say to you?

[Morgan Baggot]

Remember, just something to the effects of. If you've seen or heard from Bradley, you know, please tell him, get in touch with somebody. And. And we just want to confirm his.

[Woody Overton]

Whereabouts, his safety, and by this time, he's. He's been gone for six days.

[Morgan Baggot]

Yes.

[Woody Overton]

Nobody's seen him?

[Morgan Baggot]

No.

[Woody Overton]

Okay. And he doesn't have a cell phone, so that can't be tracked.

[Morgan Baggot]

Yes.

[Woody Overton]

What about, like, do you know, did he deal strictly in cash or did he have a bank card? I wouldn't assume he had credit cards if he's using narcotics.

[Morgan Baggot]

Yeah, there. There was no credit card proof. I know that was being checked into.

[Woody Overton]

That's what the first thing I'm gonna do on a missing person is if.

[Morgan Baggot]

I Think cell phones.

[Woody Overton]

And I'm a check financial, track transactions. Right. You got to eat even if you don't have a cell phone. I understand that, but you got to eat, you got to get around, you got to stay somewhere.

[Morgan Baggot]

And there's nothing. There's none of that.

[Woody Overton]

So mom makes the report, and they put it out on social media. That's how you learn about it. And what do you do?

[Morgan Baggot]

That's the point that I got the phone call from the friend.

[Woody Overton]

One of the phone calls, sir, that was. That was when you were down in Calcasie.

[Morgan Baggot]

Yeah.

[Woody Overton]

Okay. All right.

[Morgan Baggot]

Yeah.

[Woody Overton]

You got the call on you, but you weren't worried?

[Morgan Baggot]

No, I wasn't worried. I just was like, yeah, you know, he'll. He'll turn up.

[Woody Overton]

All right, so what. Tell how I progressed after that.

[Morgan Baggot]

So, you know, days are just kind of going by and.

[Woody Overton]

But you're still not really worried.

[Morgan Baggot]

I'm not too worried at first. And then I get curious and. And I start reaching out to his dad's side of the family, and. And they're saying the same exact thoughts that I had. You know, I'm like, hey, you know, Uncle Clifford, have you heard from Bradley? I know they put out, you know, a welfare check for him. And he said, yeah, I'm not worried. You know how he does. He'll turn up. And same thing with Papa Sam. He said, morgan, you know, his mom is just being crazy like she always is. He's going to turn up. We all know that. You know, nobody's worried.

[Woody Overton]

Yeah.

[Morgan Baggot]

And then I don't know what's happening on their end or what they're doing, but I. The family. His family at that point, Papa Sam, Uncle Clifford, his cousins. But day after day, you know, there come a point after a couple of weeks where we're all like, did you hear from Bradley? Did you hear? No. No, nobody has. Okay. So I slowly start to get concerned, and then just information starts coming in.

[Woody Overton]

Screeds.

[Morgan Baggot]

Talk to me. People are messaging me, and they're like, you know, I seen Bradley walking up Highway 10 in Sandy Hill, and he didn't look like he was doing really well. Or I seen him at the gas station, and he just looks bad.

[Woody Overton]

And so this is after he's been reported.

[Morgan Baggot]

Yeah, missing.

[Woody Overton]

Now, it's been my experience in these cases, once you run that stuff on social media, you get a lot of fake sighting rumors like, oh, I saw. Saw him in the grocery store. I saw them this. So that. And I have to chase down every one of these, and they always End up. Not always, but nine times out of ten they end up proving false. Wrong. And so what I'm asking is this. All these texts that you're getting, people are saying this, they're saying that. Was any of that ever validated that he was still alive after that date?

[Morgan Baggot]

No, it was never confirmed.

[Woody Overton]

Right. So. But people, you know, the rumor mills, small parish, not small parish, but rural areas, small population wise. People are going to talk and sometimes they have nothing better to do but gossip and. And they're hitting you up and you know. But no, nobody actually saw it.

[Morgan Baggot]

No.

[Woody Overton]

Say what happens?

[Morgan Baggot]

I start really looking into things because I am getting worried.

[Woody Overton]

So when you say looking into them, what do you do?

[Morgan Baggot]

I'm going to Sandy Hill and that's not very far from my house. I'm seven and a half months pregnant. I'm in another relationship, you know, in seven and a half months pregnant, and I'm going to Sandy Hill and I've got flyers and I'm knocking on doors and I'm talking to people and I'm stomping through the woods and whatever one person says, I follow up on what they say and I go to the next place and I follow up on what they say and I go to the next place and it's just.

[Woody Overton]

That's called an investigation.

[Morgan Baggot]

It was so tiring, you know, and that was only the beginning of it. I thought. I just never dreamed I'd still be doing this here today, you know? So I gather my friend up, she's like, listen, you're not doing this by yourself. First of all, big mama, you know, like, I'm big out there pregnant. And she's like, some of these people are sketchy. So I hear that one dude saw him at his mom's house and we need to go talk to him. I'm knocking on the door. I went to high school with him and I'm knocking, I'm knocking and somebody, his mother comes to the door and I say, hey, can I talk to such and such and. Well, why? The police already talked to him. He's not going to talk to you. And then some other guy that's supposedly his stepdad comes out.

[Woody Overton]

They talked to him about Bradley?

[Morgan Baggot]

Yes, he said he. And then the stepdad says the same thing, you know, you don't need to talk to him. The cops already have. And at this point I'm not, I'm looking for.

[Woody Overton]

Right. You don't even know the cops. Talking to people.

[Morgan Baggot]

I'm not accusing anybody, anybody of anything. I literally just want to have a conversation like and say, hey, hey y'.

[Woody Overton]

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[Morgan Baggot]

Have you did you see him? What was he doing? What was he wearing. Where was he going? You know? And the dude, knowing me even still wouldn't come out and talk to me. And all I wanted to do is ask about the last time he saw him. Was not there to accuse. Immediate red flags, right? For me, right? I'm going to Jason and Daniel's. I knock on the door, they didn't answer.

[Woody Overton]

Shady Oaks.

[Morgan Baggot]

I knock on the door another day, they didn't answer. And then word was sent to me from them that I better not come back to their house. They're not talking to me. They got nothing to say to me, and they don't know nothing. And that's that.

[Woody Overton]

Yeah.

[Morgan Baggot]

And I'll tell you why those two things were so. Those two encounters were so weird, is because everywhere I went, everybody wanted to talk about the missing guy, Bradley Stracer. They wanted to ask questions, they wanted to tell me things. Everybody wanted to talk about him except a handful of people I know.

[Woody Overton]

Now I'm about to rain check you from an opposite direction.

[Morgan Baggot]

Okay?

[Woody Overton]

Just. Just because. Remember, I told you, I don't think I said this in the last episode. In this case, everybody's a suspect except for me. All right? The. I know. I know you've been living this for five years and eight months. And you. You certainly have your opinions and everything on. I get that. But today we're going to work without that. But I'm gonna take it away. If. If the cops that showed up my house, whether I had any involvements in it or not, they questioned about this missing dude, right? And I may have heard something on the streets, the. Or whatever. And. And I'm. You know, if I'm not involved, I'm tell the cops what I heard, and then, like, I don't. I ain't talking to anybody else about it because it's. You know what I already. Talking to somebody about. Bradley's already got the cops knocking on my door. My mom and dad's sweating, and so I would be like, you, Morgan. I'm not talking here. The couple at the trailer park, the same thing. I'm not saying they don't know something or whatever. Red flags. I'm not saying that you're not right. I'm just giving you the opposite end of the spectrum, being like, I'd be like that. Putting yourself in there put me having the cops in my house. And. And they question me rightfully so. You were one of the last ones to see them. They're gonna be in your grill. Right. But the main. But let's take it back for a Second, at this point, the cops are talking to people. They must think sums up. And they must. At some point, they must have started to think, well, this isn't just Bradley running away again. Which in my mind means that somebody gave them a piece of information, which is the same thing. I. I'm expecting it's gonna happen on this tip line. Somebody's going to call in, be like, this is what happened. Leave me out of it. Go look it up. But is it. So we. You confirmed, at least at the one house, the cops, the bars spoke to this person.

[Morgan Baggot]

Yes.

[Woody Overton]

And so at what point do you go to the cops and, like, what's going on or whatever or. Or what? Just do, you know, you tell me chronologically what happens next. The. When does the news media get involved? When do you learn that cops are involved? When's the first time you talked to cops? Do you tell me to tell all the listeners out there? I.

[Morgan Baggot]

I go home. And then, you know, this is. This is all between missing person report being filed and Thanksgiving. Thanksgiving Day rolls around, and I decided I just woke up, and I just. I don't know. You know, we've talked about gut feelings, and you can't. You need cold, hard proof, but sometimes you also just can't ignore your gut.

[Woody Overton]

Absolutely. And I said, hey, every case I've ever solved is because I'm one with my gut.

[Morgan Baggot]

Yeah, right. I said to myself, when I woke up that Thanksgiving day, I had to realize that something was telling me, Bradley's not coming back this time. And I didn't know what to do from there. I told my mom that we had dinner, family left, we cleaned up, and I said, mom, I'm gonna go. You know, can you please watch Oliver? I gotta. I'm just gonna go. She said, where are you going? What are you doing? I said, I don't know. I just. I'm just going. She said, what's the matter? I said, mama, I don't think Bradley's coming back this time. And I just watched, you know, just relief flood over her just for her to hear me say that, because she had been feeling the same thing.

[Woody Overton]

Yeah, she didn't want to, and she.

[Morgan Baggot]

Didn'T want to tell me.

[Woody Overton]

I want to shade on you. Yeah, I get that.

[Morgan Baggot]

And she said, morgan, I'm glad you finally said that, because I've really been thinking the same thing, too. Not this time. This time it's different. And so I left. I knew where I was going. I drove up into Shady Oaks Trailer Park. You know, so this is Thanksgiving Day. Not a lot of traffic on the road.

[Woody Overton]

Yeah.

[Morgan Baggot]

And there's two people at the first trailer I passed, and I pulled up, and they come out from under the hood of a car. I roll my window down. They walk up to my van, and they said. I said, hey, I'm Morgan. And I said, my ex husband, I guess, has been missing, and this was one of the last places he was seen. And do y' all know him? His name is. I have his picture on my phone. I'm holding my phone in their face. His name's Bradley. Have y' all seen him? It was a man and a woman. And they said, yeah, we. We know who Bradley is. If. And this part. I'll never forget this part ever. Ever. It's one of the first things that I'll never forget throughout this whole thing that I've been through. They said. They pointed at the trailer behind them, and they said, if you want to know what happened to Bradley, they didn't say, if you want to know where Bradley is, if you want to talk to them about where he might be, if you want to know what happened to Bradley, you need to talk to those people in that trailer right there.

[Woody Overton]

And that was at.

[Morgan Baggot]

And that was at Jason and Danielle's house.

[Woody Overton]

Okay. Wow.

[Morgan Baggot]

And it concurred with all the other things that I had been hearing. So at that point, I decide I hadn't called the sheriff's department up until this point, but that following week, I get involved.

[Woody Overton]

All right, tell me all about that.

[Morgan Baggot]

I call them, and at first, I'm talking to Detective Sly, and I know Detective Sly. He and Bradley knew each other very well, totally, aside from the small town.

[Woody Overton]

You talked to him on the phone?

[Morgan Baggot]

Yes. Yes. And he says, yeah, you know, we're. We're working on it, and we're going to be looking at them.

[Woody Overton]

So you tell them what the couple said.

[Morgan Baggot]

Yep.

[Woody Overton]

Man, that's. And what's a natural inclusion that. And. And then. Plus, they told you themselves, stay away from our trailer, blah, blah, blah.

[Morgan Baggot]

Yeah.

[Woody Overton]

And the couple says, what happened? You want to know what happened to Bradley? Asked them. So I get. And if I was working Bradley's case back then, the last people that. I mean, that's who you start with.

[Morgan Baggot]

Yeah.

[Woody Overton]

The last people who saw then the people that are closest.

[Morgan Baggot]

Yeah.

[Woody Overton]

So you're talking to the detective.

[Morgan Baggot]

Yeah.

[Woody Overton]

And he knows Bradley.

[Morgan Baggot]

Yeah. He says, we're. We're looking into things, and. And I asked them. I asked them very specifically, you know, because there was one time that Bradley didn't want to be in trouble. He had. He was in trouble. And he did leave. He came back and he got caught, but always come back. And so I was thinking, does he. Is he in trouble? So I asked him, does he have. Are y' all looking for him? Like, were y' all looking for him? Is he in trouble? Did he do something? Does he have a warrant? And they told me time and time again, not just that one time, there's no warrants. We are not looking for him. He has no reason to run off. They said those things to me, right? And so time rocks on. And I call again, you know, maybe just a couple of weeks, I call again. And from out of the blue, Detective Sly is no longer working for them. He's jumped ship to Beauregard Parish, new lead detective on the case, David Vance. Detective Vance is who I now speak with.

[Woody Overton]

All right, and how does that go?

[Morgan Baggot]

And he tells me that they've reached out to Jason and Danielle and that they gave them an opportunity to come in, and they did. And he said, we're going to wait and see if they come in. So I don't hear anything. I don't hear anything. I call again end of the following week, and I said, hey, what's going on? Well, they never come in to talk to us. So we served a search warrant and kicked their door in. You know, you heard feet hit the ground. And we took them in for questioning. They lawyered up, and we can't question them anymore. They said that Bradley was at their house and he was acting crazy and they didn't know where he went after he left there. And this is all stuff that Detective Vance is telling me. And he says they each took a polygraph test and I can't remember which is which one was inconclusive, one failed.

[Woody Overton]

Inconclusive. Is it really a failure? Yeah, but it's. I'm 25 years on polygraph and. And so many points to the positive side, you pass it. So many points to the negative side, you feel it that there's not enough data to score. Generally it's because the person is taking. I'm not saying that they did, but I'm just saying because I. I don't know. But generally the person is using some type of countermeasures to. And then jacks up the scoring.

[Morgan Baggot]

He told me some kind of.

[Woody Overton]

As a deliberate attempt on the part examine to do something alter outcome of the test.

[Morgan Baggot]

He told me some kind of elaborate story about sweat glands. Detective Vance, about whichever one was inconclusive. There was some kind of Defect and they would never be able to take a polygraph test and pass or fail and it be accurate.

[Woody Overton]

Never heard of that. Yeah, I have heard of people putting. I've had actually had people put deodorant on their hands to stop sweating. This these call a galvanic skin response. Now they call it electrodermal activity. All it is skin sweat. This is one of the three areas that's measured. But I don't know what's. What's the name? Jason and what Jason and Daniel. Adam, for the record, I don't know them, don't know anything about it and I'm certainly not accusing them anything. I'm simply sitting here talks into Ms. Morgan about the story. So Detective Vance, now you can't just go get a fucking search warrant for no reason. All right? Search warrants, you have to go before a judge, you have to write it out. And I've written a thousand of them. You know, I need to search this residence. Such and such. 103 Magnolia Drive residents are Bob and Sue. I have reason to believe they have X amount of narcotics in the residence. Or let's, let's say it's Bradley's case. I have reason to believe do the statements given by other reliable sources that Bradley Strayson was last seen at this residence and blah blah, blah, blah, blah. Yeah, you got to put a lot of in there and you got to go before a judge and the judge reads it and the judge has to sign it. You can't just get a search warrant. You can't just write up your own search warrant and go it a judge has to sign. When you serve the search warrant, when you take the door, you serve the search warrant. You can bring them in for questioning. If you don't have anything to charge them with, then you got to let them go. But maybe they got a warrant for something else that you can bring them in, book them on. But when you serve the search warrant, the. If they actually search, if they said they're going to be searching for blood evidence or traces, whatever it may be, they serve it. They have to do what they call a search warrant return. They have to take everything that they took from the trailer, even if it's just the people they took out of the trailer, they have to take that and file that back for the court. You don't know anything about that?

[Morgan Baggot]

I don't know.

[Woody Overton]

Yeah.

[Morgan Baggot]

I don't know what transpired other than what Vance told me.

[Woody Overton]

All right, so Vance tells you they take the door, they get them, they bring them in. They said Bradley was there, he's acting crazy and he left.

[Morgan Baggot]

Yeah.

[Woody Overton]

And they lorried up. Now they didn't lorry up evidently right away because they both took polygraphs. I'm sure they lowered up. And after they took the polygraph and they were told deception indicated they failed and inclusive. I don't know what this hand thing is. I never heard of that. The. Whatever. The. Do you know if it was a. Obviously there's voice stress tests which are illegal in like half the states because they're proven you have a better chance of flipping coin again. Correct. And use that basically this interrogation tool. And then there's true polygraph which records your physiological tracings in three areas. And it sounds like it was a true polygraph because he's talking about skin sweat and the voice trust doesn't measure that. Do you know who gave the test?

[Morgan Baggot]

No idea.

[Woody Overton]

I. I would bet money. And I may be wrong, but I would bet money. Burn in Parish does not have their own polygraphers. I was the first polygraphers ever to be licensed in. In Livingston Parish. And. And then of course, you know, when I was with the state police, I would go out and help other agencies on criminal cases and a lot of times that I would have to polygraph people and stuff. But you have polygraph rights. They can't force you to take the polygraph. You have to sign. Yes, I'm going to take this. I'm doing my own free will. I don't want attorney. Blah, blah, blah. So if it's even true. We don't know advance is telling you true. But I'm assuming that he is because he told you this. I don't know him from dick. Right. The he tells you one failed, one seemed conclusive. They lorry it up. Then what. What does he say?

[Morgan Baggot]

He says that was it. There was nothing else he could do about them that he was going to have to look for and follow other leads.

[Woody Overton]

Okay, well the. Yeah. As an investigator you have to look for. And I wouldn't. Okay, you. He's telling you he's got one that failed, one is inconclusive. They lorry it up. Okay. Now looking for other leads, you're always going to work any other lead that comes in. Okay. But you can't get off these two at this point from a detective standpoint that I would be then working to other people, witnesses, people that knew these. This couple to try and shake the trees, if you will, see what comes out.

[Morgan Baggot]

Yep.

[Woody Overton]

But he's just doing whatever. So what happens next has News media picked up on it yet?

[Morgan Baggot]

No, just. Just lots of shares on social media.

[Woody Overton]

Okay. Lots of shares on social media. Detective Vance is working now. Does he say we're working as a missing person case? Did he say, we think there's foul play? I mean, why do you get a search warrant if you don't think there's foul play?

[Morgan Baggot]

At that point, he's still saying it's. It's a missing person's case. Nothing more at that point.

[Woody Overton]

I mean, that other than, you know, people saying, and I don't know what's been said yet, but there's a reason they're looking for Bradley this time, or there's a reason they're talking to people and shaking the trees. And it's not because Bradley's run off on a dope bender.

[Morgan Baggot]

Yep.

[Woody Overton]

So what happens now?

[Morgan Baggot]

Days are. Days are getting rough, you know, it's hard. We're worried. We're so worried.

[Woody Overton]

You. You and your family, your mama and his family.

[Morgan Baggot]

My whole family. His whole family on social media is doing what?

[Woody Overton]

I mean, I.

[Morgan Baggot]

You know, this is. This is early on, and I'm. I'm sharing posts on social media. Bradley's face missing. If you have information, call the Vernon Parish Sheriff's Office. And some of those posts, even then, they got shared thousands of times.

[Woody Overton]

And it's like, in 2020.

[Morgan Baggot]

Yes.

[Woody Overton]

Right.

[Morgan Baggot]

Yeah. And what happens, you know, people are messaging me saying all kinds of things when I tell you rumors were flying, you know, you. You name it, I heard it. They. They found a body, and it's Bradley. They found a head. They found, you know, Bradley was put in a tub and chunked in the river or put in a wood chipper. I heard that one a lot. And so it's like, not about Bradley.

[Woody Overton]

I'm not the case.

[Morgan Baggot]

And back then, you know, I'm brand new to this. I don't have a clue really what I'm doing. I'm just doing. And every single one of those things to hear was so horrifying and so heartbreaking, and it made it so hard to go on because I'm trying to block this out of my head, hoping that none of those things are true and that he's just going to turn up.

[Woody Overton]

During this time, do you have any contact with sheriff's office?

[Morgan Baggot]

I'm checking pretty regularly.

[Woody Overton]

You say you're checking. What is checking?

[Morgan Baggot]

I'm calling. I'm calling. I go and see them sometimes.

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[Woody Overton]

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[Morgan Baggot]

David Vance.

[Woody Overton]

You got to tell the listeners. So you're actively going to see Detective David Vance. And you go see him and what happens?

[Morgan Baggot]

Well, we're past the November 5th point where the official missing persons, you know, report was filed. And immediately in those days to follow, I'm like, you know, they're cops, they've. They've searched this car that Bradley was driving that day. They had to have done forensics on the car. Right. You know, and so I asked him about that and he says to me, we don't have any reason to do that there. You know, we, we don't have no reason. He's just missing.

[Woody Overton]

And look, be honest with you. And that hurts your feelings at that point. He's right. And I know it sounds crazy, but if I have, I, it does to me. If you sent every recovered stolen car to the crime lab to be processed, the crime lab would never be able to do anything else. You just don't do it. I mean, if there's no obvious blood, there's no damage, there's no bullet casings or holes in the seat or whatever. And plus his family wants their car back. Yeah, grandma's got to have her car back. So the now after you get now later on, he develops enough information to get a search warrant and bring them in and question them and they lawyer up, whatever. I probably, probably at that point would, it would have definitely taken a look at the car at some point. I would it as the investigation went on, I definitely would have looked at the car. Yes, I know it would have been too late and the car could have been cleaned and everything else, but not always. I've had cases where we've gone back years later and got trace evidence out of the car that tied back to the suspect. So I don't know Vance, don't know dick about him. I'm just saying back in November, when it's still a missing person case, I wouldn't fuck the car either. But down the line and, and after the first detective had it, and then, then you talk to Vance, he gets the case, they brought him in, blah, blah, blah, blah. Certainly I would look at the car, but that's just me. I don't know what kind of training he's had or whatever, but you're going in there and getting FaceTime with this dude. Now we're in to the next year because it was one Thanksgiving Day when you told your mom, I don't think he's coming home. And you really start pounding. Yeah, everything. So you go and you see Vance and what?

[Morgan Baggot]

It's just always, you know, we're following leads and we'll let you know. And, you know, he would call me and sometimes he would tell me who he questions, sometimes he wouldn't. And that was the kind of calls I was getting. Is. And it didn't take too long for me to start feeling like they were just pacifying me. I do, I felt like that pretty early, but not, not so immensely, you know, as I did later on. But. And it was hard because, you know, you already know. I'm, I'm. I'm a loved one of a missing person. Of course it's going to look and feel like they're not doing enough.

[Woody Overton]

Right. Well, you know, they, they're working on the case. Shouldn't I get that? But what I don't get past is the point of he told you. You're telling me he told you. They served a search warrant, they brought him in, they got him take polygraphs and gave you the results of them. There's probably some legal issues there, but they gave, they gave you the results of them. What have you. That at that point, if you got all the red flags, you don't just stop pursuing. Right, right. But not, not detective ants. Right. So. But you feel like they're. They're placating.

[Morgan Baggot]

Yeah.

[Woody Overton]

And so Bradley still never been heard from? Not either hair of him. No phone calls, no financial transactions, Nobody's seen him. Time goes on. It's being shared on social media. Detectives done search warrants. They. You going in and seeing them after this, feel like you're getting placated. At what point does the media pick. At what point does. Or. Or what else is Vernon Parrish, Sheriff's office saying about Bradley? Are they doing any more social media posts or anything? And I'm getting to a point.

[Morgan Baggot]

Yeah. So it took a little while, but they. And, and I couldn't tell you the date or time, but one of the news outlets, either KPLC or Kalb, did a segment with the sheriff's office about Bradley and they show some, some videos of some little dogs running through the woods. And they said that that was at the location where the car was found. They. They did tell me. I guess that's one thing I did forget is that in the meantime, search Warren at Jason and Danielle's and them actually being questioned. That was a part of that warrant. The trailer park and the pond behind it and the area where the car was found was supposedly searched and there was a news crew there briefly. And the sheriff is talking about Bradley. And if you have any information, you know, to call us and that they are looking. They've searched in places and nothing's turning up.

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[Woody Overton]

KPLC 7 probably most likely yes or on a I'm going to play this actual okay y'. All. I'm going to play for you the very first news media coverage by KPLC Channel 7. And listen to it now.

[Jay Morrow]

What happened to Bradley Strasner? That's what the Leesville man's family and law enforcement are questioning several years after his disappearance. Thanks for joining us tonight. I'm Jay Morrow. Tonight his family says they will never stop searching for answers. God gave him to me and I'm going to get answers before I leave this Days turned into weeks. Weeks turned into years not a rock goes unturned or lead go unfollowed. In the search for Riley Strasner. He said bye mama, I love you. I see him in a little while. And he drove off and I never, never in a million years.

[Woody Overton]

You thought.

[Jay Morrow]

That was it. October 30th will mark the third anniversary of his disappearance. The vehicle Strasner was driving was located near Shady Oaks Trailer park in the Sandy hill area. On October 31st. According to the Vernon Parish Sheriff's Office, the vehicle unlocked keys laying in the seat. Bradley has not been seen since nor has any viable information regarding his disappearance surfaced. Where Bradley is on the second anniversary of his disappearance, the sheriff's office said they believe that foul play is probably involved. Most recently law enforcement partnered with an out of state search and rescue group to once again search that area.

[Woody Overton]

Dogs and the dog handlers it docks.

Come up with anything.

[Jay Morrow]

Nearly three excruciatingly long years without answers.

[Morgan Baggot]

Who, what, when, where? We know nothing. We just know that come October it's going to be three years since anyone on earth has seen or heard from him.

[Jay Morrow]

His family wants people to remember his infectious laugh and the love he had for his son.

[Morgan Baggot]

If his family and I didn't try so hard and keep pushing that Bradley would be forgotten. Right now I just ask that somebody.

[Jay Morrow]

Come forward and do what's right and just let us finally put this to.

[Morgan Baggot]

Rest because this has been three years of hell.

[Jay Morrow]

Anyone with information, no matter how significant, is asked you contact the Vernon Parish Sheriff's office.

[Woody Overton]

Hi. Also there you heard it now. It's almost three years by this time and you've been communicating with Vance and everything else but that the male voice you heard on there was Sheriff Sam Kraft.

[Morgan Baggot]

Yes.

[Woody Overton]

He's the sheriff of burning Paris, correct?

[Morgan Baggot]

Yes.

[Woody Overton]

And they're saying they suspect foul play, right? Yeah, I didn't make that shit up.

[Morgan Baggot]

Nope. Three. Three years in. Yes, that's what they said.

[Woody Overton]

But. Well, they said two years in they suspect the foul play. This is now this article is finally coming out and it's been almost three years. So at two years in they had enough evidence to get the cadaver dogs and search areas and everything else. And then two years in they're saying the sheriff's office is told the news media KPLC 7, we suspect I'll play.

[Morgan Baggot]

Yep.

[Woody Overton]

Right.

[Morgan Baggot]

And yes sir, that's correct. Recent months before that interview was one of the meetings with Detective Vance. And he and I had this conversation behind a closed door in his office. And I, I told him I Said, I don't. I don't think after all this time, Vance, that Bradley's coming back. I don't. I do not believe that he is alive anymore. And he looked at me in my eyes and he told me, I think that's what we're looking at. Is he. He said, it is my belief that Bradley is no longer alive.

[Woody Overton]

Detective Vance told you that personally?

[Morgan Baggot]

Yes, he did.

[Woody Overton]

Okay, so now I'll throw y' all a curveball. And I'm still trying to work out how to tell story. And you know it so well because you've lived it. And I'm Johnny come lately. But at some point, and we're going to get into it on the next episode. But at some point it become. It's becomes knowledge that Bradley said, and you can correct me if I'm wrong, that if something ever happens to me, I taped a letter to the bottom of the AC unit in a hotel room. Is that correct?

[Morgan Baggot]

Correct.

[Woody Overton]

And tell me how you. How you came to know about the letter. How it became knowledge that. That. That Bradley said if something happened to me, I taped a letter to the bottom of an air conditioning unit in a hotel room, and he gave the room number. How. How did you hear about that?

[Morgan Baggot]

Well, there was. There was a letter that came about just from out of nowhere. And you know, as we already know, I had no contact with Raleigh. And so I'm getting all the information from girlfriend, mother, you know, uncle, cousin. And at some point in time, a letter comes out. I get picture copies, photographs of the letter. 1,000% Bradley's handwriting.

[Woody Overton]

Right.

[Morgan Baggot]

Now, in this letter, I've seen it.

[Woody Overton]

It'S very distinct handwriting.

[Morgan Baggot]

Yes.

[Woody Overton]

So this letter comes out. Right. And you said Detective Vance showed it to you.

[Morgan Baggot]

No, I got pictures of it from.

[Woody Overton]

From somebody else.

[Morgan Baggot]

Yeah, from somebody else.

[Woody Overton]

But correct me if I'm wrong, and then we'll get into. In the next episode. But this letter, it comes to be known that this letter, it's like Bradley speaking from the grave. But he, He. He was telling ahead of time, whoever he told him, we'll talk about in the next episode, that something happens to me. I taped the letter to the bottom of the AC unit in the hotel. So this letter, Bradley has told someone that something happens to me. I taped a letter underneath the AC unit in a particular room in a particular hotel in Leesville. And guess what? Bradley disappears. And at some point, this becomes. Somebody comes forward with that knowledge, says, hey, he told me something happened to me, I hit a letter.

[Morgan Baggot]

Yeah.

[Woody Overton]

And it'll explain what happened to me.

[Morgan Baggot]

Exactly right. Yes.

[Woody Overton]

And we know for a fact that he hid that letter and it was, it was retrieved from the spot and the hotel room that he said it would be at. And this is after people hadn't seen him for forever.

[Morgan Baggot]

Yeah, for its months at this point.

[Woody Overton]

For months and months. And. But so they go and they get the letter and we'll tell y' all on the next episode. A real life, real crime. Hashtag justice for Bradley. What the letter says. And we're kind of skipping around, but not skipping around because there's so much to the story, so many different angles that the Bradley. I, I've read the letter. I understand everything that's in it and everything else in, in the. It's really going to take you down a wormhole. And then I probably. Swim. Someone who isn't me can say off the record that they probably believe that the, the, the nuts to this whole story are in that ladder. And, and to why I, why swim things? Bradley got murdered, right?

[Morgan Baggot]

Yeah.

[Woody Overton]

And, and the. But you have to continue to use the tip line, calling your tips. Call me on and we're coming. And we're already doing it, but we're coming. And you give the right tip. Look, at one time, one case, I drove through the middle of the night tip came in late at night, drove through the middle of night and got a recording that was played in the guy's murder trial that it's. No, no, that tip lines 24 7. You leave a voicemail, whatever, remain anonymous. I don't have to say who told me what. I don't have to. I'm not, I'm not law enforcement. I don't have to play by the cops rules. And a lot of times people tell me they won't kill cops now. Right. And so do it. You look, what if Bradley was your husband? What if Bradley was the father, your child? What if Bradley was your son, Bradley was your brother? What if Bradley was your best friend? Bradley didn't deserve to be murdered. Just that nobody deserves to be murdered. You are listening now because the word's already been out. This is the second week since we announced we're on the case. I know. It's spreading like wildfire. It's done in every case that we've done. Spreading like wildfire. I'm sure the tip line is going to be burning up by now. Call it. If you would talk to Morgan Baggott when she's seven and a half months pregnant, knocking on your door and just trying to find out what I call some juice. Right. She's trying to find Bradley, hoping he's still alive. Talk to this old homicide detective. All right. Give me information. You can remain anonymous. Help me build this case. Help me. Wouldn't be great if we could bring at least part of Bradley home to be buried. Yeah, so Oliver can ask somewhere to go. Yeah.

[Morgan Baggot]

A place where we knew where he was at.

[Woody Overton]

Yeah. That and then ultimately, the reason I do these series, hashtag justice4, this is Bradley Stracer, is there's murderers walking around. Somebody's got to pay for it. Now we've established everything. Timeline all the way up to the first news article. And then we're going to tell you about the letter in the next episode. And we're going to do some more news articles and more stuff that happens. Sheriff's office. And it's going. Sugar is turning to shit. This case goes totally fucking downhill from here from a law enforcement standpoint. And I don't want to go there. But I didn't do what these people are doing or not do what these people haven't done. And if that's what it takes to get people pissed off to call in the tip that brings Bradley Homer or hashtag gets us justice for Bradley. Hashtag justice for Bradley Striesner. I don't give a. I don't care who upset. You shouldn't have done it. The. I mean, it is what it is. The. The. But y', all, it's gonna blow your mind. It's gonna blow your mind. You have anything you want to add or take away? I know you. You got a million things you want to say. But.

[Morgan Baggot]

Yeah, my brain is. Is smoking right now for sure just listening to you.

[Woody Overton]

And that's why I told you that y'. All, you might get a kick out of this. The. She drove so far, bless her heart, all the way across the state to be here for me today. And she's been waiting tell the story so many years. And she's done it. She's done a phenomenal job in carrying a torch for Bradley. And you're doing it else weight for Oliver. Right? And. And. And I get that. But I think at this point, I know at this point, you done enough. And where you're still doing it, right? Being here. I mean, shit, I made that drive too many times. You're still doing it. But at this point, with your help, we're going to do it. We'll do it together. And at this point, you need to remember they're murderers out there. And they don't Want to go to jail. They don't want to go to prison. Not jail, prison, jail or hell for me, where they go, I don't care. But they go on one of them. So the. You need to stay safe. But what I was telling y', all, I, you know, I don't know. Morgan's kind of a force when you get to know her. She's force of nature, if you will. And I'm saying I'm smiling. It's a good thing. That's the reason you've been carrying us all these years. Five years, eight months. Morgan's a bit of a force, but I'm like, you can only do so many episodes in a day for a couple reasons. One, I believe that I start to lose my mental focus. Not focus with sharpness. And the things that. The ways I want the story to go, but I want the listeners here. And mainly right now, all we're doing is the first episode put the human face on Bradley. Second episode, we're putting a human face on you and the family's pain. And we're not even pains this point, what you've done. And then we put in the human face on the sheriff's office and then used me tell a story, right? And it starts after so many hours in a row, you start to. And when you can hit it fresh again. The. I think you're beginning to feel a little bit of that now. And that's okay. Yeah, I mean, it's a lot. It's. It's your. You've been fighting this five years and eight months. And they look, every time you look at Oliver, I'm sure you think of Bradley.

[Morgan Baggot]

Yeah, he's his twin.

[Woody Overton]

And, and, and that's tough. So I applaud you for keeping it up. We just getting started. All right. In lifers, y' all give Morgan. I know you're going to do it anyway. You're going to have to become a member of the group crew page and the real life program Community out, because they're going to be posting about in there all the time. And just they're going to be like, Morgan, hold your head up. Morgan fighting. I know with the lifers dude, when they take you in, you're like family. And. And so just. And also the reason we're going to quit getting so far ahead is because I don't know if it's going to take that long to solve. I can't say that. I mean, it might take. It might take another five years, eight months, but it might take five hours after the first episode. I don't know. And. But God knows.

[Morgan Baggot]

Feels good to hear you say that. I literally just kind of took a.

[Woody Overton]

I can tell you the. The difference is you're not alone anymore. Now you got papers who. Who know who Bradley Stricer was. I mean, total human being. They know about the addiction, the good, bad and indifferent. But now this stuff has been happening. It's three years. The latter, y'. All. Real deal coming at you next week. And y' all use the tip line. Share, share, share, share, share the other thing, too. Probably by this point, some news media is going to pick it up again that we're doing. We're covering the story. There's just going to be so much that's going to happen that's. We won't get too far yet. And then. But I thank you so much.

[Morgan Baggot]

I thank you.

[Woody Overton]

Your face is like. You know, I. I don't know if you're scared or relieved or combination, but I read 98.5% I do for a living is read people. I think you're just like, good luck.

[Morgan Baggot]

With that on this girl.

[Woody Overton]

Maybe mind blown a little bit. I don't know. But we're family now.

[Morgan Baggot]

I'm thinking about all the things I didn't say and all the things I want to say.

[Woody Overton]

Yeah. Everything you said was raw and unscripted.

[Morgan Baggot]

Yeah.

[Woody Overton]

And it's totally fine. That's another reason why I usually stop after this many episodes. Because I have ocd. My brain will never stop spinning. Mine's not washing my hands 20 times a day. Mine is. I can't stop thinking about whatever it is I'm thinking about. And that in cases like Bradley's, that's. That's bad for the bad guys.

[Morgan Baggot]

Yeah.

[Woody Overton]

Because it'll be three o' clock in the morning.

[Morgan Baggot]

Yeah.

[Woody Overton]

And it's going to come to me. Boom. A new thought, a new angle, a new way to look at something. And you think I haven't thought about. And that's going to be the downfall.

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[Morgan Baggot]

What's held me back so much is. Is being a single mom, mostly.

[Woody Overton]

You gotta. Look, you gotta live, you gotta. You gotta take care of Oliver, Bradley. We want you to do that.

[Morgan Baggot]

That's exactly right.

[Woody Overton]

And look, y', all, when I tell you everything that Morgan has done in this case, and then it's gonna. You're gonna get so mad. But she. She's done everything way beyond. And that's gotta be for another episode. But it's way beyond.

[Morgan Baggot]

Just reached out to me so many times, you know, I I love my kids and my kids are a fact of my life. But I've said if I didn't have kids, I would have already solved this case.

[Woody Overton]

Yeah, well, you got kids and. And I know you're a good mama and you can go home and be a good mama to them now. All right? And I'm Woody Overton, your host of Real Life from Crown the Podcast. And until next time or ever, let me catch you down. Murder by Peace.

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