Real Life Real Crime | #JusticeForBradley ep 23

Summary

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Real Life Real Crime | #JusticeForBradley, Episode 23

Date: November 9, 2025
Host: Woody Overton
Featured:

• Morgan Baggott (Bradley’s advocate)
• Justin (frequent suspect mentioned in the Bradley case)

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Main Theme & Purpose

This episode of Real Life Real Crime continues the intense, ongoing investigation into the disappearance and presumed homicide of Bradley Strassinger and the related case of Austin O’Banion. Host Woody Overton underscores escalating tensions, community action, and his unyielding commitment to seeking #JusticeForBradley. The episode features a candid, emotional conversation between Morgan Baggott and Justin—a man whose name has been frequently connected to the case, who maintains he is being wrongfully accused.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Update on the Case & Woody’s Position

Timestamp: 03:56 – 10:22

• Woody is physically distant from the studio, but emphatic that investigative activity continues non-stop.
• He addresses online critics, dispels rumors about profiting from the case (“I don’t make money off of Bradley’s case and Austin’s case. ... I make money from my national sponsors. It has nothing to do with the content of the case.” – Woody, 04:19).
• Talks about direct threats against him for his investigation. He responds firmly, standing his ground and stating he will defend himself if necessary (“You go to put hands on me, and I'm gonna pump you full of lead. That's not a threat. That's a promise.” – 05:24).
• Notes increased urgency among law enforcement as public scrutiny mounts: “All the people were calling in. The good, bad and indifferent. Holy smokes.” (06:05)
• Calls for focus on results, not credit: “Let's bring Bradley home. I don't care who does it.” (06:20)
• Criticizes law enforcement’s historic lack of action, emphasizing the time he has had the case vs. official agencies (“They've had it for six years. ... I’m light years ahead…” – 06:49).
• Promises future content presenting both sides (from Justice Sharbonneau and the opposing “aisle”), highlighting transparency and a search for truth.

2. The Call: Morgan Baggott & Justin

Timestamp: 10:22 – 57:50 A raw, unfiltered conversation—a rare long-form, real-time defense and questioning of a suspect. Provides a window into both the intensity and the confusion of long-cold cases.

a. Justin’s Account & Defense

• Clarifies timelines: Justin recounts where he was during the time Bradley went missing, stating he believed he was incarcerated but later corrected himself—he was in Lake Charles, then incarcerated, then back in Leesville. (11:15)
• Affirms he only met Bradley once, in prison; met Jason McDaniels later (Nov 2020), after Bradley’s disappearance (14:20 – 14:36).
• Explains why his name surfaced: because he recorded music at Vet Vic Studios with people under law enforcement scrutiny, especially Jason (14:29 – 15:02).
• Expresses empathy and stress: “It's bothering me that it's getting looked at me at the wrong way and it's not a theronic people, because nobody deserves that.” (13:13)
• Says he voluntarily would take a polygraph and has no knowledge of what happened to Bradley or Austin; denies knowing several other people of interest.
• Justin reiterates: his proximity was circumstantial, related to music and shared community, not involvement in the disappearance.

b. Morgan’s Challenge & Reflections

• Morgan is transparent about her skepticism: “I'm going to be honest with you, Justin, and I'm not. I'm not. I'm not trying to call you a liar. I'm just telling you what I have and what I know.” (28:03)
• Outlines what law enforcement told her; recounts Detective Vance’s assertions and suspicions about Justin (21:21 – 25:18).
• Details the emotional and life-consuming toll of pursuing Bradley’s case for six years, including relationship with local law enforcement.
• Reveals possession of backdoor recordings of police interviews referencing Justin as a suspect early on, treating Bradley’s case as a homicide behind closed doors (24:25).

c. The Interpersonal Toll & Life Contexts

• Justin shares struggles with mental health, the loss of his ex-wife, proximity to addiction, and detachment from his old circles; “I'm not that type of person...I am a licensed minister, and I'm not here to lie to you.” (29:45)
• Morgan opens about her chaotic, criminal-adjacent upbringing, her late father’s involvement in meth trade, mistrust of authorities, and her motivations (“People want to ask me, well, how do you know this and how do you know that? Because I've seen it with my own eyes. I've heard it with my own ears my whole life.” – 45:17)
• Both describe deep post-traumatic stress, therapy, and the often-overlooked impact on families and secondary victims.

d. The Law Enforcement Critique & Systemic Corruption

• Both recount secondhand and firsthand experiences of corruption in the Vernon Parish Sheriff’s Office and local law enforcement (“…the same reason why I quit the sheriff's department is because of the crookedness that's going on…” – Justin, 44:17)
• Exchange stories about “paying taxes” to authorities—i.e., criminal proceeds funneled to police to avoid trouble.
• Discuss the difficulty in trusting any part of the system to bring real closure.

e. Faith and Perseverance

• Both Justin and Morgan reflect on faith and destiny. (“...what's in the darkness, Morgan, is going to come to light, period. Whether it takes tomorrow or whatever, it's going to come.” – Justin, 51:37)
• Discuss the concept of “faith without works is dead” and their shared resolve to keep searching for answers. (52:52)
• Express mutual hope that Justin’s innocence can be proven if that proves to be true, and a desire to meet in person after resolution (54:18).

f. Community and Pain

• Morgan recounts her connections to local families involved or affected by the case, her time lost, and the burden of advocacy. (55:06 – 56:56)
• Ends on mutual gratitude and respect despite unresolved suspicion.

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Notable Quotes & Moments

• On threats to Woody: “Let me tell you this. I'm a man of my word. You go to put hands on me, and I'm gonna pump you full of lead. That's not a threat. That's a promise.” – Woody Overton (05:24)
• On law enforcement's failures: "Don't be mad at me because I'm doing the investigating that should have been done for six years." – Woody Overton (06:37)
• On personal toll: “I can't even begin to fully describe what I have been through for six years, especially this last year, especially this last six months, you know.” – Morgan Baggott (21:22)
• On community suspicion: “If I'm such a big suspect in all this, then tell me one reason why the police had never come and talked to me.” – Justin (49:22)
• On faith and perseverance: “What's in the darkness, Morgan, is going to come to light, period. ... if you have faith in God like you say you do, and I have faith in God like I say I do, then you're putting your faith in motion and I'm putting mine in motion.” – Justin (51:37)

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Timestamps of Key Segments

• 03:56 – 10:22: Woody’s update, threats, law enforcement critique, and intro to Morgan & Justin’s call
• 10:22 – 14:36: Justin explains his timeline, connection to key people, and why he’s under suspicion
• 21:21 – 25:18: Morgan recounts being briefed by Detective Vance, early homicide theory
• 28:03 – 32:22: Exploring associates, testimony and speculation on other suspects
• 35:24 – 36:37: Shared trauma—Justin’s wife’s death, Morgan’s investigation toll
• 41:23 – 44:19: Confessions of family criminal histories and direct stories of police corruption
• 45:36 – 47:12: Discussion on courage, faith, and continuing the search for justice
• 49:22 – 50:15: Why the police have never interviewed Justin
• 51:23 – 54:18: Closing: hope for proof, mutual respect, toll of the case
• 55:06 – 57:12: Reflections on community pain, personal ties, and a hint of possible closure

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Tone and Style

The tone is gritty, raw, and honest—sometimes sharp and profane, often deeply emotional. Woody’s method is unvarnished advocacy, fired by frustration at official inaction. Morgan and Justin’s conversation is frank; both voices are heavy with fatigue and distress, but also animated by a hope rooted in faith and a desperate search for truth.

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Summary

Episode 23 of #JusticeForBradley brings listeners deep into the fractured, frequently painful world of a cold case still boiling at the surface of a small Louisiana community. Through Woody Overton’s updates and especially the long, searching phone call between Morgan Baggott and Justin, listeners hear from those touched and implicated, willingly or not, by the tragedy. The episode underscores persistent police inaction, complicated truths about small-town relationships, the corrosive effects of long suspicion, and the resilience of those demanding answers.

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For next week: Woody promises to present the other side, potentially including information that could further challenge or confirm the statements made in this episode. The case—and the search for justice—continues.

Transcript

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[Woody Overton]

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[Justin]

And the W is at your.

[Morgan Baggott]

Oh.

[Justin]

You running over that's for sure it already knows all about you.

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Cut.

[Justin]

You down no matter about you.

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Now.

[Morgan Baggott]

You better walk alive.

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[Woody Overton]

Hello, everybody, it's Woody Overton, your host of Real Life, Real Crime, the podcast, and coming to you today. The audio is going to be totally out of sync and out of whack because I'm out of the office. But the couple things to talk about. Hashtag just for Bradley. Hashtag just for ao. The powers that be in burn and parish are scrambling harder than they've ever scrambled. Y' all saw me do a threat video the other night. I'm not going to tell you yet on the threats, who it was, but you damn well you know, some of the naysayers want to get on there on the social media and say, oh, it's just Woody going parade and Woody making money, blah, blah, blah. I don't make money off of Bradley's case and Austin's case. I make money from my national sponsors. It has nothing to do with the content of the case I would be doing making money whether I was doing Bradley or not, okay? The. The threats are real, and they're fucking idiots for doing it and saying what they said and not acting upon what they acted. But I'm putting it together in a nice little package because I know there are other things that they have done that cannot ever be erased. And one day, I'll explain it to all you naysayers who don't fucking think I know what I'm doing, but I already know what they've done. And certain things they've done can never be erased. And when the powers, the good powers that be, get their hands on it, somebody's got some explaining to do. So we'll leave it like that. But the again, threats don't bother me. I could give a shit less. But let me tell you this. You made that threat that you are going to do such and such, and then you're going to beat my ass when I get to burn in Paris. Let me tell you this. I'm a. I'm a man of my word. You go to put hands on me, and I'm gonna pump you full of lead. That's not a threat. That's a promise. That's in response to your threat to me. So you know who you are. And you know, there you have it. The. I'm gonna defend myself as I have a right to. And so take that, put that in your corn pipe and smoke it. All right? That being said, shit's on fire. On fire. All the people were calling in. All the people. The good, bad and indifferent. Holy smokes. And you know what? The.

[Justin]

These.

[Woody Overton]

Some of the people over there are scrambling, doing what they should have done to begin with. And that's great, but the. Let's bring Bradley home. I don't care who does it. I don't. And y'.

[Justin]

All.

[Woody Overton]

I truly don't. And I hate to keep making this about other things like law enforcement and shit like that, but they. They keep making about. They keep making about that themselves. I mean, I can't walk away from a dog that's chewing on my leg, okay? I mean, do your fucking job. Bring Bradley home. Should have been done a long time ago. You know that. I know that. And I'll go away. It'll be that simple. And people over there can calm down, what have you. I don't give a fuck. Do your job. Don't be mad at me because I'm doing the investigating that should have been done for six years until the asshole who said, oh, Woody's had it for six months. Yeah, I've had it for six months. They've had it for six years. And I can promise you my light years in front of where they were or are. But unfortunately, I don't have the resources and everything that they have. And when I produce the case, it has to be way beyond reason. Possible doubt, not just probable cause. I don't have that bag in. In my bag a trick in my bag of tricks anymore. Probable cause, because if I put the handcuffs on them, they're going to confess. And. But also at the point where, you know, we're talking about deals. I don't really think anybody needs a deal anymore that the. We're to that point. But it's coming. It's day we. Morgan Baggott had Mr. Justice Charbonneau call into her, want to speak to her person to person. A mono to Womano or whatever, however you want to say it. And he's got all kinds of stuff to say. Morgan Baggot has given me permission to use this recording and. Or she wants it used. And y' all make. Make up your own mind. And Justice Sharbonneau again, Morgan Baggett, I'm going to play the recording for you now, now, next week. I meanwhile, don't ever think that the investigation is not going on, okay? That the. This is stuff to keep the pot stirred, like Lulu Bell was stuffed to keep the pot started. And it worked. And this is going to work too. And that let me give a shout out to that Facebook page that's dropping bombs on people. Holy shit. I wouldn't want to be a bad guy in Burning Parish. I can't even remember what the name of it is. Criminal Conversations or something like that. And then Noser Brown was starting to do some stuff. Hopefully she'll continue to follow through. But people are tired and they're. They're going places that I'm not even commenting on and not because I'm, you know, think they're right or wrong or whatever. And even Bradley's mom, Tony came out finally against Morgan saying all kinds of stuff. So what we're going to do this week is listen to Justin Sharbonnet and then next week we're going to play something from the other side of the aisle that may prove or disprove of the things that Justin Charbonneau is saying. So tune in for that. I hate that I'm not in the studio. I hate that you get this audio recording, but it is what it is. Patreon and Convicts the. Thank you so much for your subscription, as always. You're going to get commercial free early releases, bonus episodes, what have you. And I appreciate y' all support. Thank you to our national sponsors. Appreciate your support. Thank you to the good people of Burn and Parish who are stepping up. I'm talking about people stepping up and doing shit that you wouldn't imagine. And to the bad people of Burning Parish. I didn't make you bad. To the bad actors or the people who do shitty jobs. I didn't make you a shitty professional. That's on you. That. Am I going to call you out for it? Yeah, I am. And to you haters, eat a bag of dicks. And I'm Woody Overton, you host the Real Life, Real Crown, the podcast. And here comes Morgan Baggott and Justice Sharpener Peace.

[Morgan Baggott]

Hello. Hold on, let me make get you on my Vehicle. Can you hear me? I cannot hear you yet. Hold on, I'm working on it. Hands free. Okay. What about now?

[Justin]

I can hear you now.

[Morgan Baggott]

Okay. I can hear you now. I'm driving. I'm driving. So I have you on my Bluetooth. Justin. Wow. I can't believe I'm talking with you.

[Justin]

Yeah, I just wanna. I just wanna call. I don't want to make it a big skeptical Everybody on there just saying what, you know, that. What they think and everything like that and whatever. I just want to talk to you one on one, if that's okay.

[Morgan Baggott]

I understand that. I really do.

[Justin]

Well, because, you know, they're starting to bring my family into it and stuff, and this is just getting out of hand. And I'm gonna tell you what I know and why my name was brought up into it. Okay? So I made a mistake. And I thought that I was locked up during that time, Bradley. And I even corrected it on the podcast.

[Morgan Baggott]

I know it.

[Justin]

I was living in Lake Charles during that time. And then not shortly after that. Then I got locked up. Then whenever I was released, I went back to Leesville. And then I did music and I was recording. Now I just heard about Bradley. I met Bradley one time in prison. This is the first time I ever met Bradley. Was. Was. Well, it was the only time really I met him was in prison. And I met Jason McDaniels and me and him became friends. I even have a picture of the first day that we met, but we met at the studio. It was vet Vic. It was. It was like a big. They got the door kicked in over drugs and everything like that and all kinds of stuff. And my name was in it because I was a music engineer there and I recorded everybody's music. I think how my name got brought into it is because me and Jason had, you know, started talking. But I met Jason a year. I mean, in November. I believe if I go back and I check the picture, it was November of 2020 is when I met him. And he would even tell you that, you know, anybody would even tell you that I didn't even know Jason McDaniels or any until 2020. In fact, I didn't even hear nothing about Bradley until 2020. And I. I just. It's just. It's bothering me that he. I'm not a selfish person. It's bothering me that it's getting looked at me at the wrong way and it's not a theronic people, because nobody deserves that.

[Morgan Baggott]

You're right.

[Justin]

And. Go ahead. I'm Sorry.

[Morgan Baggott]

Innocent people don't deserve it. And you are correct. And I don't even know what I'm gonna do, like if David Vance lied to me and sent me down some chase just to throw it completely off.

[Justin]

I've never even met Detective Vance. I just know that they had a thing out for the vet vic thing, and they got, you know, they had. Had it out for us pretty much is. Is the whole thing. Right?

[Morgan Baggott]

So I understand something you said. You said you met Jason when you were locked up with him one time.

[Justin]

No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. I met Bradley when I was locked up one time.

[Morgan Baggott]

When did you meet Jason? How long have you known Jason?

[Justin]

I've. November of 2020.

[Morgan Baggott]

So. So that is after Bradley went missing.

[Justin]

Yes, that's after the Bradley went missing. I've known Jason Only since 2020. And I have the pictures. I have pictures in my phone of the first day that we met. And. And I can correct the date for that if it is wrong. It's wrong. But I could show you the pictures. And that's the first day we met. If he was the even. You didn't even ask him. He would even tell you that. I haven't. I didn't even know anything about Bradley until 2020. And Detective Vance, I. I don't know what. I just know he had a vendetta out with the people I was around, and that's probably, you know, why my name got thrown in it. And it's just. It's just. It's. I feel so bad for. For. For. For you. I feel so bad for everybody. And I wouldn't be here trying to even talk to you if I didn't feel bad about all this or anything like that. But I'm not going to sit back and let somebody and everybody else chase the wrong dragon, you know, whatever you want to call it, whenever somebody did something horrible.

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[Justin]

And I, I'm so sorry for that. I am. I. I am so sorry for that. But I'm not that person. Anybody that knows me, knows me, knows me that I would never do anything like that. I just wouldn't. I don't even have a motive, you know, I don't.

[Morgan Baggott]

What. I don't know what to. I don't know what to think or believe anymore, Justin. I just know that I will. Bradley. I want to bring Bradley home. And I can't like. I can't even begin to fully describe what I have been through for six years, especially this last year, especially this last six months, you know. And all I can tell you, really, all I know is that David Vance, I was at work, he called. He. He Messages me. And he's like, hey, when can you talk? I was like, I can talk right now. And he said, no, not on the phone. When can you come see me? I was like, you know, like it sounded serious. So, yeah, right away. And I go, I go, like either that day or the next day, he brings me, he walks me down the hall, he brings me in his office, he shuts the door. He begins to tell me about someone they have incarcerated, which was Austin o', Banion and unfolds her story for me. And, and he mentions Jason and Danielle. Jason and Danielle were suspects from the word go. They were, to the best of our knowledge, that was the very last people who saw Bradley was at their house. They admitted that. We know that. And, and the car was found, you know, 0.9 miles from their house. I've, I've driven it. I've, I've clocked it. And, and then he says, you know, Austin o' Banion says she's drug inside. He told me, Justin, I don't know if you have listened to the story on TikTok.

[Justin]

I've heard. I've heard of the story. I've heard it, and you need to.

[Morgan Baggott]

Listen to the entire thing. I don't have the time right now to tell it to you, but David told me that Austin said you come to the window of the car with a gun, drug her out, drug her inside, and, and that I don't know how she knew that. You can.

[Justin]

I explained something to you right fast. I've never even met. And I've asked them to give me a. A polygraph. I've never even met Austin o'. Banion. She's been a Facebook friend like, or whatever. That's just a click. And I'm just not. And I'm not understanding why. The only reason that they put me in that mix is because I was hanging around Jason. I'm telling you that right now from the bottom of my heart. That's the only. That's the only tie down. And Austin o', Banion, I don't know where she got that from. And they can say she passed a lie detector test or whatever like that. Well, they put me on one because I'm sick and I'm tired of it and I just won't. I want just as much justice for Bradley as you do.

[Morgan Baggott]

And I'm not that. I'm taking David Vance's word for Bible. I'm just telling you what he's told me. And, and I'm going to tell you this is the God's honest truth, for safety reasons, of other people's safety. I cannot and would not ever send these out to anybody. Woody has David. We have David Vance in interviews with people that they've questioned on recording. Those people recorded him. And he says your name again. And back in 2000, like late 2020 or sometime in 21, he's questioning people and it is in reference to Bradley Straissinger's homicide. Not a missing person's case that early. They were referring to it behind closed doors as a homicide.

[Justin]

Right. And see, that's. That's another thing that I don't get. But I just. I just want you to just keep in mind the timeline and if they want to ever bring. If this ever goes to wherever, I would be glad or whatever, just to clear my name out of this, that I didn't even know these parties until late 2020. And that's the honest to God's truth.

[Morgan Baggott]

How many credible people, along with yourself, would sit on a stand through a trial and say that?

[Justin]

I know Jason would say it. I know. If you could get him there, you know, because he. The way he acted. And like, I moved to Florida not because of all this, because I have help with. I have a brain aneurysm and I have blockage to my brain. And, you know, so this is another thing of like, you know, I could die at any moment and everything. So I'm not just. This is just a horrible, horrible thing. I don't know how many people I could get. I probably could get Valerie, whoever was in vet Vic during that time, I could probably get it. I don't know. I'd have to check around. It's been a while, you know, but the people that were. The people that were around aren't really credible people, you know, Cat, he's. He's in federal prison right now. I know he would stand up for me. I know. Gosh, what's his name? I know a couple people that would stand up for me. Yeah, but I. Yeah, but like I said, I. I just don't know what to say. I. I just wanted to call you today and just give you at least something. And the only thing that I have heard outside of this is stuff about counterfeit money. That's the only other thing I've heard about it outside of that, you know.

[Morgan Baggott]

Do you know Danny K?

[Justin]

I do not know Danny K. Do you know Tony?

[Morgan Baggott]

Do you know Bradley's mother, Tony?

[Justin]

I do. I met her, I think once maybe, or whatever. If that. I'm not really sure. I'm not like. You know what I mean? I don't. I don't. I don't really know these people.

[Morgan Baggott]

What about Dion Jackson Deontay? His street name was Money Bags or. Or Jackboy.

[Justin]

No, ma'. Am. I'm being honest with you. I do not know. I do not.

[Morgan Baggott]

Because these are all Country Manor characters. And I've been. I've did my research and I, you know, I can. I can kind of place you a lot of different places. I'm going to be honest with you, Justin, and I'm not. I'm not. I'm not trying to call you a liar. I'm just telling you what I have and what I know. I have two different reports on you that I paid for 10 miles of information. Your addresses, your associates.

[Justin]

Yeah, I know that. My address is my associate. I was living in Lake Charles during that time. I know that for a fact. And then I have somebody that's credible that could stand on. On the witness stand and tell you that. That I was in Lake Charles during that time. And the only reason my name was brought up in all this is because I was in Country Manor during that time recording at BET Big Studios. I'm telling you that I was a recorder for the studio. A little in home studio. The door that they kicked in and they found all those drugs and stuff at. I recorded at that studio. And that's why my name is being brought up into it.

[Morgan Baggott]

Were you in town the. The week of your dad's funeral? Did you come to Louisian for your dad's funeral?

[Justin]

No, I did. I did not. I was not able to make it. But I did come to town and I did see him before he died at the hospice the Sunday.

[Morgan Baggott]

The Sunday before you announced on the Wednesday that your dad had passed when.

[Justin]

Yes, and I did not. I wasn't able to.

[Morgan Baggott]

The fourth time that somebody shot in front of my house. Fire and shots.

[Justin]

I. I'm so sorry for that, but no, I did not. And I have plenty of people, credible people that would sit here, that's here in Florida, that I was here in Florida. I didn't make it here for my dad's funeral. No, I did not. My sister will tell you that. Everybody will tell you that I'm not that type of person. And I hate to just throw this up because everybody's just throwing it in my face, but I am a licensed minister, and I'm not here to lie to you. I'm not here to throw all that. Like, I don't live that life anymore. Of being in between all these drugs and all these people and stuff like that. I don't associate with those people anymore. And it's not because I'm running from anything. It's because I'm grow. I grew up. I mean, and then, you know. But that's exactly. I can tell you, for a matter of fact, as God is my witness, ma', am, that the only reason that my name is being thrown up in there is because I was around Country Manor that time recording music. And I can tell you who was in and out of that studio was Nick Glaze. I do know him because he was in and out of that studio a lot.

[Morgan Baggott]

The one that has the devil's pitchfork tattooed on the side of his face?

[Justin]

Yeah. Yes, he was. He was in and out of there a lot. And then that's how I met Jason.

[Morgan Baggott]

He's another one that won't talk to me. I. I went to high school with. With Nick Glaze, I said, in classes with him, and. And he had it a lot more rough than I did, but he was such a sweet person. And when I. When I knocked on his door, just to ask about, you know, Bradley, what. What was he doing before he went missing? Who was he hanging out with? He would not even come to the door, along with Jason and Danielle. You know, the. The one thing that I can give you right now, Justin, is you're the only one trying to clear your name and nobody else is.

[Justin]

That's because I just want to tell you that's because I'm being wrongfully accused in all this. And the only reason that that is because I was around those people at that time, and I just did. I was around those people. And like I said, anybody that knows me, knows me. There's even people taking up for me on there and stuff like that. That. That's not in my nature.

[Morgan Baggott]

I'm talking to your friend Christy. I've had conversations with her, and she. She is standing hard on your. Your innocence.

[Justin]

And I love her with all my heart. That's because she knows Ray. Swear. Lil Race. Lil Ray.

[Morgan Baggott]

Another one.

[Justin]

Everybody know. Yeah, I'm not. I'm not. That's not in me. I was a drug user. I'm not no murderer. And I'll just be out. I'll just claim. Come out and just tell you that I was, you know, I was addicted to drugs. But then when I came back to Leesville, I didn't know that I would walk into that, because, like I said the first time. And I'll also tell you this. I'll be straight up with you. The conversation that Jason had with me, me and him was sitting out there. I guess it was. Was it. What's beside Country Manor? What's that? Trailer park Pines. The old times or whatever. We were sitting outside his back porch one time, and he said, that's the first time that I heard about what was going on with him. And then I was like, but what happened, Jason? He said, man, they come and looked over my yard and everything else like that. And I said, well, do you know what happened? He goes, I don't know what happened to the dude. He goes, to do that? He goes, he was the last person that left my house, and they tried to throw me. Excuse my French, but I'm just gonna tell you verbatim what he said. They're trying to throw me in this. And I. I ain't do nothing in it. I. I just. I mean, was. Just started going off like this was mad. I was like, why are you so mad about it? He goes, because they done threw my name on the bus. Like I did something. I said, well, I don't know, buddy. I don't know about that. And that's the first time I heard about Bradley Strasner's death. I'm so sorry. I'm so sorry you're going through this. I am. And I am so sorry. It's to the point to where they're starting to say that my wife. That, you know, I was separated from. That she didn't like me, man. We were best friends. That's the mother of my child. Talk to her mother. Then Jenna, that I would beat on her and all this. This and stuff like that. Talk to her mother. Talk to her mother. She had a mental medical condition and stuff like that. And then her mother would tell you that I protected her. And the day that I wasn't around, she went to evacuated from a hurricane. Whenever I was locked up, she. Remember in 2020, when the hurricane hit.

[Morgan Baggott]

I know. I know all about it because Jenna's mother reported her missing, I guess, on her birthday, September 16th. You got out of in a meet on September 19th, and Jenna was found in that warehouse, I guess the first week of October.

[Justin]

Right.

[Morgan Baggott]

Trust me, I have spent hours of my life on this time. I'll never get back. Like with my kids and everything. I've. I've given up so much. It has consumed me. It has ate me alive.

[Justin]

Well, can you. Can you give me this? I love Jenna. And I know what it's like for somebody to be murdered or be missing or whatever it may be. I know how that build because right now I have chronic post traumatic stress disorder. I see a psychiatrist and a therapist because of my wife.

[Morgan Baggott]

I'm on my way to therapy right now.

[Justin]

I see a therapist and because of my wife's death, you know, yeah, we wasn't together, but that was my best friend and we decided to not to be together. And you know, I have to talk to my therapist.

[Morgan Baggott]

Was she pregnant with your baby or somebody else's?

[Justin]

Well, no, it was somebody else's. It was somebody else's. You know, like I said, we remain friends. You know, we weren't together, but my son lives with my mother and they put my mother's house on the Internet and that's putting my family in danger too. And then that's it. That's when I gotta step in as, as a father, as everything and, and then speak up because I can't let that people harm them. My stepfather was a police officer for 12 years and they would contact me and tell me, you know what I mean, Sheriff. If sheriff wanted to talk to me or anything, they would call and talk to me. In fact, I'll give you this much. I even, I'll even give you this much. The sheriff called my mother to ask me about a guy that escaped from work release. If I could help them find him.

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[Justin]

You know. So I'm just not getting why David Vance is really was pressing that issue. But I get why, because that was the crowd I was around because of the music at the. At the time. And I called Christy before I called you, and I says, is. Is. Because I didn't know who you were, you know, And I said, is. Is she a lady that's gonna. You know. She goes, no, she's a good woman. So I just wanted to call you today, and I just. That's. That's all I can. I could say to you, you know what I mean? And I'm so sorry.

[Morgan Baggott]

I want to tell you, you know, it's. It's. It's irrelevant, really, to you, to Bradley Olson. A lot of people think that what I'm doing is solely about Bradley and Austin. They think it's about the last six years of my life. I have a good mom. Oh, my God. I have the best mom on Earth. I had good. I have. My grandparents were amazing. They've passed. I had a lot of good. So much good family. But my dad says the God's honest truth, my dad was one of the biggest outlaws there ever was in Vernon Parish. My dad, he. He was the biggest producer, distributor, and user of meth in Vernon Parish at one time. And that was for years. For years. And. And I. You know, I had good family, but we had. We had some really hellacious times, chaotic times, horrible times. I clashed with my dad because I didn't take his shit. We fistballed and my dad was a big man, and we fistballed and. But I loved my dad. And my dad was so convicted. My dad cried every time he had to just leave us. Just a simple goodbye. When he was going back to wherever he was going, you know, he would cry just to say bye, and he. He said, I love you and God bless you, and I'll see you later. We were not allowed to say bye, and he was so convicted. And when I was a little girl and a teenager. This is not a lie.

[Justin]

I'm sorry. I'm getting choked up.

[Morgan Baggott]

People from the sheriff's office, elected officials. I don't have to name any names. Would come to my house and they would visit like they were friends, and then they would leave. Nobody's in trouble. They would just go. And when I was a teenager, an older teenager, I asked my dad. One of the fondest memories with my dad as a. A younger girl and a kid was making moonshine. I love. I love the smell of fermented corn to this day because of it. And he had the most fancy and elaborate setup. And I asked him as a teenager, I said, dad, why. Why did they come to our house. He said, oh, baby, they're just buying moonshine. And I was just like, okay, whatever. You know, I didn't believe it, right? I had seen enough, and I wasn't stupid. And a year before my dad died. My dad died on May 4. I asked him again about a year before he died, and I looked at him and I said, dad, don't lie to me. I know the truth. I just want to hear it from you. Tell me, why did they come to our house? And he looked me in my eyes and he said, baby, sometimes the IRS is not the only place you have to pay taxes to. And that's all.

[Justin]

I tell you something, Morgan, I.

[Morgan Baggott]

That's all he said to me. I understood. I didn't have to say nothing else.

[Justin]

I got to tell you something right now, Morgan. I got to cut you off. I got to tell you something right now. My stepfather was a. Remember me telling you that he was a cop for 12 years.

[Ali Jackson]

Yes.

[Justin]

He come and set me down, and this is whenever I was heavy in the drugs. And he goes, son, it isn't worth it on both sides. I said, what do you mean, Mike? He went into his closet and he pulled out a mag flashlight, and there was blood on it. And he said, son, you know what this is? I said, no, sir. And I said, no, it's the flashlight. He goes, I was on the squad that if you didn't pay to. Like, you're talking about those taxes that they would run into the house and beat and kill or whatever they had to do. He didn't say he killed anybody, but he said they would beat people. You know what I mean? And he said, this is when Frankie Howard was in for sheriff or was sheriff. And he said, and this is the same reason why I quit the sheriff's department is because of the crookedness that's going on in that sheriff's department. So I believe you. I believe you.

[Morgan Baggott]

My dad, oh, he did drugs until about four days before he died. And he took so much to his grave. He told me just enough. Not. Not enough, but just enough. He begged me. Begged me to stop. What I was doing, what I am doing. He's like, they will kill you, and I want you to stop. But he knew that I wasn't going to stop, you know, and he told me who to look out for. And some of my dad's friends recently just told me, you know, that he knows that my dad didn't know anything about Bradley's case, or he would have told me. He would have ended it for me, and I believe that. But that's why, you know, it has everything to do with Bradley and Austin, but it has everything to do with my whole life and everything I know and everything I've seen. Everybody wants to ask me, well, how do you know this and how do you know that? Because I've seen it with my own eyes. I've heard it with my own ears my whole life.

[Justin]

You know, I want to tell you something. It takes a lot of balls to do what you're doing, because it's not messing with people that, you know, like gangs or anything like that. It's messing with the biggest gang in the world, and it's the police department. And I want to tell you something also. I'm not ever going to tell you to stop doing that, because that's what God's put in your heart to do, and that's your desire, and that's what's burning in you to keep on doing it. And I promise you this much, Morgan, he will protect you. He will protect you.

[Morgan Baggott]

My dad. My dad. My dad's dad wasn't a Baptist preacher, and it never mattered. My dad was sober or. Or strung out as hell. He talked about Jesus, and he said, no matter what you ever do, no matter what anybody does, they can never get too far for God's love and light to reach them. He said, and I know no matter what I've done, and my creator has a place in his kingdom waiting for me. And people. People told me, you know, this guy that's cleaned his life up that was in the thick of. It was my dad. He told my. He said, you know, he reached out to me after dad died. He said, your dad told me. He said, your dad is the reason I believe in God. And my dad said, as long as I have God on my side, there's nothing or nobody that can hurt me or get to me.

[Justin]

Right? You know, and can I tell you something's kind of ironic? That's why I didn't say a lot at first, but God's like, no, Justin, tell your side to the right, because I'm not telling it to the police or anything like that. Because, you know, and I did on that podcast and all that, but that's when, just because I pray every morning. And then I. It's just like your name came to my head. And I called Christy. I said, christy, do you think I could talk to her? And she said, yes. And I know God's letting me talk to you right now in pure faith. And I know God's going to protect me through this. I don't. I don't worry about being convicted of anything. I'm not worried about that one bit. I'm going to say that right now. I'm not scared of that. I'm not. None of that. What it is, the problem of it all is, is they're bringing my family into it. And the problem of it is is that somebody's gone and I think they're trying to cover something up and throw the ball off in left field.

[Morgan Baggott]

I know they are. Just. I know they are. And. And I'm gonna. I'm just gonna tell you the truth. You know, I'm. I'm indifferent about you. I do not believe Jason and Danielle at all. And I'm not saying I do or I don't believe you. But what I am telling you is then I would love more than anything in this world to have us prove your innocence and. And see all of. See a solution, a resolution to all of this. And. And the one and only thing that I want is to find. Rally and find justice for Austin. Austin did not overdose. Somebody straight up murdered her. They murdered her and somebody murdered Bradley. And. Yeah, and two. Two people are dead. And you can't just. Nobody, especially the sheriff's office, can ignore that there is a murderer murderers around.

[Justin]

And. Can I ask you a question? If I'm such. If I'm such a big suspect and all this, then tell me one reason why the police had never come and talked to me.

[Morgan Baggott]

It's a good question. I want to know that, too. I want you to ask David Vance, why did he say your name? You know, call him and God, record it and say, you know, Mr. Vance, or whatever you want to call him. God knows that's not what I'll call him.

[Justin]

I don't even know right now.

[Morgan Baggott]

Why did you say my name? Tell me why. And why haven't you. You question me?

[Justin]

I want to be out. I want to be straight up and outside the box. I mean, and tell you something right now because I've gained legal counsel over this already. And the only reason I haven't done that is because my lawyers told me to keep my mouth shut. I'm not even supposed to be talking to you.

[Morgan Baggott]

I'm glad you know, because I. I don't know what the sheriff's office is going to try to pull and I don't. I wish I knew what Woody has going on, but I don't. I don't know what those people on that side have going on. They Leave me in the dark. And I do not communicate with the sheriff's office anymore. So, you know, I can't speak for anything that they may be doing or know or don't know as far as you go, or any of them, for that matter.

[Justin]

I also talked to the psychic lady and she goes, Justin, she goes, I've been threatened over this and everything like that. She goes, I'm going to tell you this, she goes, that. Everything that I felt, she goes, you're not even in the midst of it. She goes, I don't even see you in it. She goes. And that's all I can tell you because I have a lot of ugly things being thrown my way right now, and I really don't want to talk about it, but it's because I will clear your conscience that I know you're dying. You're not involved with this. But. And she goes, for my safety right now. A lot of people don't like what I said. For some reason.

[Morgan Baggott]

I'm not. I'm not a huge fan of her, just to be honest with you know, because I. I do know people here locally that are communicating with her. And. Yeah, I don't. I just don't know what to think about her.

[Justin]

Yeah, well, I just. That. That helped me out just a bit. I believe in God above all. Let's just put it like that. You know what I mean? I don't care what no man says or anything like that. What's. And like I said on that post, what's in the darkness, Morgan, is going to come to light, period. Whether it takes tomorrow or whatever is going to come. I promise you that. I promise you that. Because if you have faith in God like you say you do, and I have faith in God like I say I do, then you're putting your faith in motion and I'm putting mine in motion. But I'm not gonna sit here and believe that God's gonna let that slide by. I'm not gonna sit there and let. It's gonna come to light. It sure will.

[Morgan Baggott]

I know that you're.

[Justin]

I know you have an appointment.

[Morgan Baggott]

I know. Yeah, I. I know that you're supposed to have full. You're supposed to let it all go and completely and fully put it in God's.

[Justin]

And it's hard to do that. Don't mean it's like that either, though, Morgan. It doesn't mean it like, let people. M. Mistaken. That let go and let God thing.

[Woody Overton]

That's.

[Justin]

There's a big mess of representation in that.

[Morgan Baggott]

I can't sit back and do nothing, you know?

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[Justin]

Cuz faith without works is dead, Morgan.

[Morgan Baggott]

But I'll tell you what I know. I haven't been, I haven't been working, I haven't been sleeping. And I, I never dreamed I'd be in the shape that I'm in. I just. Oh, I'm not, I'm not doing good. I'm not. Okay.

[Justin]

I'm.

[Morgan Baggott]

I mean, you know, there's. This is. If somebody finds out, you know, that I'm being dishonest with you. It, it don't matter to me. I can't.

[Justin]

Well, nobody's gonna. This is between me and you. This is why I wanted to call you. And believe me, I can emphasize and sympathize with you because of a murder and also because of the dirty police, but this is the same reason why I have a psychiatrist and a therapist today. Because I, I, I can't. The. I have chronic post traumatic stress disorder and generalized anxiety disorder. Because this torments you. It, it torments you. Unanswered question. So I just want to tell you, though, it was a blessing talking to you. If you ever want to call me, this is my number. And you're more than welcome to call me anytime you want to.

[Morgan Baggott]

Morgan, I appreciate you talking to me. I really do. And I, I'm going to tell you, I really do. I, I hope and pray that in the end that this goes to trial and that you're not the one facing anything. And I, I promise you, if, if that's what happens, I want to meet you in person. I want to meet you. I want to meet your family. I gotta tell you one more thing. I'm so late for my appointment, but I have to tell you, it's okay. I work in the same parking lot as Jason McDaniel's mother. I work in the same office as your step aunt, Miss Sue.

[Justin]

You know, Mike Sanders.

[Morgan Baggott]

I don't know them. I do not know Ms. Edna or.

[Justin]

Mike, but I, you know, your Aunt Susan is.

[Morgan Baggott]

Several, Several months ago, I started. Ms. Sue started working in my office and I didn't know she knew who I was. I kept quiet. And one day somebody strolled through the office and they asked me all about, you know, hey, what's going on? Any updates? And she was sitting across the room. And after those people walked out, I walked straight to her and I pulled my chair up to her And I said, Ms. Sue, I don't know if you know who I, you know, knew who I am, but, you know, I just want to Tell it all to you, because I. I love that lady. She is so, so sweet.

[Justin]

She's one of the most wonderful.

[Morgan Baggott]

She said, morgan, I love you too, and I'm not mad at you. She said, and no matter what happens, it's gonna be what it is. She said she had nothing bad to say about you, obviously. What do you say in that situation? It's a wild thing. I just wanted you to know that.

[Justin]

And thank you for letting me know that. And she's a wonderful woman.

[Morgan Baggott]

She is.

[Justin]

And I just want to let you know this before we hang the phone up again. Anybody truly knows me will also tell you the same thing. That, that, that. That. It's not. That's not me. That's not my character.

[Morgan Baggott]

She cried. I cried when we talked about it. You know, she's. I think she hurts more for. For your mom and. And she hurts for me like she's everybody. I know more people who know your family and they just cry their eyeballs out every time the. The subject comes up.

[Justin]

Yeah. Yeah, it's. It's. It's. I don't know, man. I don't know what else to say. I just wanted you. I just wanted to call you and let you hear from my voice and maybe you can get a little bit of peace.

[Morgan Baggott]

I'm glad you did. Justin.

[Justin]

If you see Susan, if you don't want to know, we talk. It's. I love her, but. All right.

[Morgan Baggott]

I'm not going to see her until I go back to work. I may be going back next week, but. But, you know, maybe I will.

[Justin]

But you. That's up to you if you want to. And I. Me, I. I'm not telling. I. I'm not even on Facebook anymore. But I have my messenger on and you have my phone number at all. All time.

[Morgan Baggott]

Okay. Well, I. I appreciate you. I'm gonna run in this. In this appointment.

[Justin]

Yeah, go ahead. Go ahead.

[Woody Overton]

All right.

[Justin]

You have a blessed day.

[Morgan Baggott]

You too. Bye.

[Justin]

Bye. Bye.

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[Justin]

You running over, that's for sure. You already knows all about you.

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