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Now you better walk alive. Warning this episode of Real Life Real Crime the podcast may contain descriptions of acts of violence or that of a sexual nature and should be for people that are 18 years or older. He my warning people I do not get the facts of these cases off of the Internet or for some television show. The facts I'm retelling you were presented to me by the victims of the crimes which or the perpetrators who committed the crimes against the victims. My descriptions of the crime scenes, what I saw with my own two eyes. If you're going to get offended, please turn this podcast off now. Thank you. Hello everybody. Welcome to this episode of Real Life Real Crime, the podcast. As always, I'm your host Woody Overton. The so today continuing justice for Bradley now hashtag justice for AO and how about a hashtag just for all but yeah I know that's too much to type but this case just is a gift that keeps on giving. It's like Santa Claus and it's not given in a good way for the people that are hurting. It sucks and y' all just no idea. I mean I really really the yeah I'm one person yes I am experienced. I've been doing this a long time talking about working cases and the every day the my phone rings more and more and more and I have more people who are giving me more information on and not all of it is Bradley and Austin I've got information from a serial killer from the late 80s. Supposedly somebody has a recording of I admitted doing it and stuff like that. Trust me verify right that certainly I haven't verified that or I'd be breaking the national news but I and a lot of it I know is People trying to throw me off. And I get that the closer I get, the hotter it gets, the more this case heats up, the more my messages feel and what have you. Now, I've got hours and hours of. Of conversations and different shit recordings and people stuff keep sending me. And I've got, look, I got some secret weapons in my pocket. And you know who you are, right? And looking at things from a different angle also, or connecting the dots for me in different ways and making different things happen. But it's happening. And I'll tell you some more as this goes on, but I want to do something a little bit different today because I got so much happening. Some of the bombs I'm waiting to drop or coming through different channels and things like that I can't explain to you. And if you think this is going to be solved in an hour, just turn the podcast off. But it's going to be solved. And we are leaps and bounds of where ahead of where everybody's been up until this point. But today I wanted to do something I had done a while. And I want to talk with you all with Morgan Baggot. Now, I'm not going to. I'm recording this on camera, but the. She's not on camera like y' all used to see us on the split screen. But let me call her and get her on the phone because there's some things I want to talk about. Let's see.

Morgan Baggott (7:32)

Hello, sir.

Woody Overton (7:33)

Hello, Ms. Morgan Baggot. Hey, I'm recording you. You are on Real Life, Real Crime, the podcast Shocker, right?

Morgan Baggott (7:42)

Yeah. It's been a while, though.

Woody Overton (7:44)

Yeah, it has. And that's something I want to talk about a lot of different things, and they're gonna pop to my head. I know I'm going to bounce around, etc. But I was just explaining, you know, one man show tons and tons of information, so many different things from so many different angles. And I have a lot of secret weapons. Secret weapons being people that are helping me out that nobody would ever expect. Etc. But where I'm at a point now where all these things are coming together and there's certain things I have to wait on. Hey, are. Are you on speaker? It's just making some whatever noise.

Morgan Baggott (8:26)

Yes, sir, I do. I'm sorry. I was getting my vehicle.

Woody Overton (8:30)

Okay. All right. Let's not take time. The. So the. If I could explain it. If I'm seeing, you know, people saying, oh, I wish he had. Hurry up and solve the. Solve the case. First of all, Bradley's case is almost six years Old. But I know more than I guarantee anybody. VPs nice or wants to admit that they know. I know more than anybody except for the killers. How about that? But you don't rush a fine wine. These things, when it comes, like I've said before, will come correct and know you and I have not talked and I do not. That's one of the things we're going to get into. But the, the. I am talking to everyone in a lot. I. I was just explaining. Morgan. I know a lot of people are giving me false information, red herrings, things to. To make me spin my wheels and waste my time. And I get that. That's part of it. Totally accept it. I'm not pissed off about it. But there's killers out there and they. They do not want this case solved. And. And that's a fact. And, And I know it and you know it. And then you of course are getting. I mean, living in Vernon Paris right now has got to be some kind of exciting because every day I get messages about, oh my God, you know, this is happening. And these people are saying this and. And what have you. Yeah, I. I had a call the other night from a. Actually, the. Well, I shouldn't say that because then they're gonna be this. The one of the people who helped me get. Who made me aware of Courtney Coco's case will say that known him for over 30 years and she was calling a law enforcement official in Burnham Parish for a specific need that this person's kind of famous for. And she was like, you know, you're not on Facebook or anything anymore. And he's like, I had to take down all my social media. And she said why? And she said, because this podcaster guy and this. This lady who's the ex wife of this guy that's been missing or stirred up all kinds of. And she said, are you talking about Woody Overton? And he. And he said, yeah, you know him? And she said, yeah, I've known him for 30 years. He was like, you know him? And she's like, yeah, but personally for over 30 years. And. And he saw Courtney's case and da, da, da, da. And he solved other cases and. And he. He said, well, I hope he saw all these. But I ain't saying. And we'll pray lead with that. But that's. This person doesn't live in that called this law enforcement officer doesn't even live in Vernon Parish. Right. And the lives a long ways away.

Morgan Baggott (11:13)

She needed.

Woody Overton (11:15)

I didn't get that far on it. I. But the oh, God, I wish I could say all that I knew about what's going on.

Morgan Baggott (11:26)

I. I'm just.

Woody Overton (11:28)

Yeah.

Morgan Baggott (11:28)

Beside myself over here. Because, you know, as much as I do know, and as much as I told you, and as much as I do still find out, I know that people have, you know, the avenue of Woody Overton now to call. And. And it's anonymous, and they know that. And it's. I don't believe that. It's not that they. They don't trust me. You are just. You're Woody Overton. That's all there is to it. And. And I trust you with all of my heart, and I have all the faith in the world in you.

Woody Overton (12:01)

Yeah.

Morgan Baggott (12:02)

And, you know, you and I both know huge things have happened, and that is correct.

Woody Overton (12:08)

And. And like, a lot of times when you'll send me stuff, I'm like, I already had that. The. The. But. And that's okay. But. And I want the people out there keep sending. Keep having that trust in me, because that's what that. Yeah, but the more that trust grows, the more comes up. And. And I was just talking about, like, one lady says she has a serial killer from the 1980s and gave me the three specific cases and has the guy's voice on recording admitting to it and all that. And this went on for a couple of days and. And then ghost. Right. And of course, I know that's probably fluff to get me off the trail. And, you know, who wouldn't go, look at this. You telling me you got a recording? Okay, but it's just more and more shit comes up. But back to Bradley and Austin. Oh, my God. It's just unreal. And first of all, I want to say unequivocally, I do not have hatred for everyone in Vernon Parish Sheriff's Office. Okay. I know you may feel different. I don't. I believe that the. Probably 95% of them are straight up good people who want to serve the public and do their jobs every day. But you know what? They're under the influence of the influences they're under, and I'm going to prove that. And. And that's part of what's coming this week with the.

Morgan Baggott (13:36)

I don't believe that they're all evil. I believe that a good little handful of them are, well, awesome people.

Woody Overton (13:43)

Well, I believe that. That when I started this, that, you know, I always want to believe in the blue. And I believe in the beginning at work, I. I believe it was just incompetence at. At worse. And then. And it Goes on and on and on and on. And you get all these people saying this and this and this, and you look at it and you can't get off of it. And then somebody else backs it up with something that you can tie back into it. Then I'm thinking, holy shit, you know, are we dealing with dirty people here? Are we dealing with the. I mean, you know, because if you. I've. If you follow my career, you know, I've dealt with dirty cops and I've put them in prison. I don't care. The. But the. I just. I. You know, it's. It's bad. And what happens, though, when this light gets shown into this room and the little roach takes off running and you start to expose things, they. Then they try to cover things up, and that's where you fuck up. It's like committing a homicide. There's no such thing as a perfect homicide. No matter how careful you are, you're going to leave some kind of trace evidence, some kind of evidence somewhere. If you. If you could plan a murder for a thousand hours and then go in and do exactly your plan. You got to plan to t. And if you don't make 200 mistakes when you're in the scene, and if you could think a hundred of those after you left, because nothing ever goes like you plan, right? That. That's there. And these things are coming up, and that's why it just makes me lean one way or another.

Morgan Baggott (15:28)

So they can't just go to the courthouse and pull the documents and wipe their hands and be like, we're good now.

Woody Overton (15:34)

Yeah, well, that's. That's. That's something. That's. I mean, look, I read some Austin's stuff on the last episode, and that's all public record. And. But here's the. Here's the thing. Public record means public record, all right? And I don't want to tip my hand on. On. On the bombs and. And the legal cars. I'm fixing the pool. But the. The. You go in and. And let's say. You let. Say, you know, the heat's coming and well, you know what? We can just hide this from them and they can't get it. Well, motherfucker, it doesn't belong to you. It belongs to the public. If it's public record, right? And the public has a right to know. And if you. If you hide and you don't produce, you fail to produce, then you're injured in public records, and guess what? That's a crime. So without getting any more into that, I Mean, it's just bad stuff. But I believe in the people of burning Paris. I'm telling you, there's so many great ones. Do they have a dope problem like everywhere else? Sure they do. They have a bad people problem like everywhere else. Sure they do. And, and, but the. I just don't think it's. The light's been shined. I don't think. I don't think they've ever had the focus like they have now. For real, actually. I know they don't, so. But no, the, the what?

Morgan Baggott (17:00)

Right? You're right. There's never been, you know, I don't, I didn't realize what I was doing. I didn't realize how solo I was in the beginning. I know a lot of people are following in behind me and I never, ever. I don't want this to sound like I have a big head about it. I don't. I'm very humble and I, you know, as I've said a million times, I'm not doing this for fame or attention, but as you were saying, they've never had to deal with anything like what's going on right now. There's never been a Morgan Baggott before now. There has never been Overton and Vernon Parish, and they needed to be a really, really, really long time ago.

Woody Overton (17:40)

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Then Bradley's case and you talk about up and, and, and the. Guess what, I got the whole case filed now. And so these are kind of things we're dealing with when we're dealing with Bradley's. But I think, you know, I came from the good old boy network, honest to God, when I started out, not meaning that they were bad, but. But you could really pretty much get away with what you wanted to. There were no cell phones and computers and, and. And shit back then. And the, the bad. The badge meant something and it carried weight. Not saying that we really did anything wrong, but sometimes justice was just us. And as a gray area, right? And I'm not saying we broke any laws. I'm just saying the fight against good and evil. But sometimes, you know, the good old boys just took up for the good old boys and that. That I think that, you know, the Vernon Parish is learning the hard way that that doesn't fly anymore. So. But the. The way I want to talk about a couple things and I'm not putting you on the spot and I'm not going to say. I want to talk while. Before we get into the pictures of the knife and all that, I want to talk. I want to talk about something specific sticking on the lawn. My law enforcement standpoint. Now, something happened to you, and I'm not going to say what and I'm not going to say where and I'm not going to say when. But you called me.

Morgan Baggott (24:25)

You want to talk about it, Woody? I will. We will.

Woody Overton (24:29)

Are you sure? I actually think you're safer to talk about it, but I was going to cover it without saying what it was.

Morgan Baggott (24:38)

No, I think. I think it's an all right time. You know, I don't want to keep. I've been thinking about it, and as much as I don't want to put it out there for certain reasons, and you and I have discussed those reasons, I've stood on a few certain things in. Transparency was one of them, and I don't want to become a hypocrite.

Woody Overton (25:03)

Okay, so let me tell you why. I wasn't going to push you in this direction, but let me tell you why I think it's doubly good. One, now it's a matter of public record, okay? Two, if the people that have anything to do with the public records have anything to do with. Which I don't think they do at this part, then. Then they're laughing at you, right? Because you. You talk about everything else, but you're not going to talk about this. And I get that. So let's just start with the. The other night, y'. All. The night before, I think the night before, you and I actually talked about something that was very, very important. And I was so, so pumped up. And I still am. And I'm still working on that, by the way. And I'll tell you about that when we're not on. On the speaker. But the. The. The next night, Morgan text me. Like, you know, Morgan texts me a lot, and I don't always respond and stuff like that, but it was so. It was like something emergency. I think maybe you called and I was like, she doesn't call me. And I called you back or I answered it and you were like, woody, Woody, someone, you know, just fired shots in my house and. And da, da, da. And I know you told me to call the police first, but. But. But then I got the red ass with you, and I. Old cop mode kicked in. I said, hang up and call 911 right now. I said, don't call me. I'm four and a half hours away from Me and then I'll let you tell what happened. But I was like, really. I was really upset with you. I was like. Like my baby sister, you trying to call me. And I'm in New York City and she's in Louisiana and wants me to stop it from getting right. There were so many different kinds of copped scenarios in my brain. Like these people can come back right now. They. They can do whatever, whatever, what have you. And, and you understandably, I. You have a way more storied history with VPSO than I do. But you didn't want to call in, in, in. I understand where you come from, but I'm telling you the reason y'. All, anybody is out there, and I'll let Morgan tell a story then. If something happens to you, don't call a non, non emergency number. Don't not. Not call law enforcement because if you don't make a report, it never happened. Okay? That. In law enforcement's book. That's. That's the rule. It never happened. Secondly, if you. I don't care where you live or where you're at. If, if you call 911 as soon as the shit hits the fan or Sugar turns the shit, then the. I have made so many arrests and they had other people stop vehicles and stuff, the cops just happen. Might be down your road on another call. You don't know. There might be a state trooper in an area that's on patrol and hears call and then. And I'll let you tell it in a second. And they respond and they're going to stop any vehicles come out. You just don't know how. Besides your own safety. Fuck. You don't know how it could have been stopped. And I understand that you're thinking they're all. They're all bad. Not the. And. And. And. But the. The. The. Maybe it could have been caught up. Now I'm gonna do something that's hard for me. I'm. Shut up. You tell me what happened.

Morgan Baggott (28:30)

Okay, don't.

Woody Overton (28:32)

Don't start with. Don't start with the prior one. Start with this one and then talk about the other ones. Okay.

Morgan Baggott (28:36)

Yeah, I'll rewind. So when I called you, I was pretty frantic and some time had passed since the shots were fired. In minutes. Not, you know, not like 30 minutes. But I was laying in the very back of my house and I have glass pane windows and it's thin glass pane French doors. And what I heard was what I thought was someone beating on the door. And so I hollered up to the front of my house to my sister. And I said, somebody's knocking on the door. You know, go, who is it? Because it was so hard and so fast. And she screamed right back at me, bloody murder. And she said, that was gunshots. I jumped up, I grabbed both of my children and put them to safety in a safe spot. And I grabbed our weapons and I handed one to my sister. And we went from door to door and window to window with our weapons. We did not see anything or anyone. And so I let her. I told her, go stand guard in a certain position and spot in the house for a certain reason that I just don't want to discuss.

Woody Overton (30:07)

You don't have to.

Morgan Baggott (30:11)

And I walked out of the front of the house. I eased out, I looked around, I called my neighbor immediately. And I asked him, because this is the country, I said, and he already knows this has happened prior. And I said, were you shooting? And he said, no, I'm not shooting. And I drove back very quickly to my aunt's house. And I said, is my uncle home? Is he shooting? And she said, no, he's still at work. But I heard the gunshots. I thought it was y' all are our neighbor. And I said it was neither one of us. Somebody shooting in front of our house again.

Woody Overton (30:49)

And the neighbor heard the gunshots too, correct?

Morgan Baggott (30:52)

Yes.

Woody Overton (30:52)

Yeah. I.

Morgan Baggott (30:56)

Drove down a little further to another neighbor's house, and I asked him if he was shooting, and he said no. And he said, oh, my God, it's happening again. And I said yes. And somewhere between leaving my home and heading back, I had talked to you, and you was not.

Woody Overton (31:17)

I was not. And I wasn't nice. And I. I was very, very pissed off, especially when you told me what you were doing. And the. But I understand the fight or flight, you were in fight fight mode. But in the future, all you got to do is is stay inside with the babies and the guns, certainly protect your babies, take up position inside. But Meanwhile, you call 91 1. And when you the difference y' all between calling non emergency line and 911911, they have to respond by law emergency. And you call in, you say, shots fired at my residence. Every cop in that parish, from small towns to state police to sheriff's deputies, they are all going to converge on the scene because that's the way it works, right? But you. I understand you didn't know that, but go ahead and tell what what happened and what was found and all that before you get into the cop part. But I'll call It. So you called me and I told you, hang up and call 911.

Morgan Baggott (32:26)

Yeah, as I was. I can't remember. It was all just such a flash. But I think it was as I was talking to you and pulling back up to my driveway, my mother and my sister and my neighbor were out on the highway looking around because the last time this happened, no casings were found. My neighbor found a 9 mil casing. One of them my sister and I can agree on. She says four to five shots. I say five, five to six.

Woody Overton (32:58)

Right.

Morgan Baggott (32:58)

Shots that I heard.

Woody Overton (33:00)

Right. And in rapid succession. Let's talk about that for a couple seconds. From the truth, true crime standpoint, that the, the, the Y' all found a 9 millimeter spent casing in your driveway.

Morgan Baggott (33:16)

Right by my mailbox.

Woody Overton (33:18)

Right, right by your mailbox. So the, that means it wasn't a revolver. But. Because then you have to pull it back when, when the, but the revolver fires, the cylinder spins and the casings do not eject out. So that means the semi automatic pistol, if, if not in that they have 9 millimeter, a piece of semiautomatic rifles. Right. So it could have been any of that. But it was definitely a semi automatic. So it's throwing them out. Now if. Why didn't you find five or six casings? I don't believe they took the time to get out and pick them up. I believe that they were probably firing from inside of a vehicle. And you can't control where those shells get ejected out. So the pin strikes the bullet. The, the, the, the primer makes the powder explode. The explosion not only propels the bullet down the barrel and out, but it also kicks back the action. The actual explosion kicks back the action and kicks out the spent casing. And when it comes forward, it takes the next top of the bullet off the magazine and the guns reload a rate of fire. So that's how you can go pow, pow, pow, pow, pow, pow. Right. So that when you told me that and it was only one, I'm like, I'm pretty sure that must have been firing from inside of a vehicle.

Morgan Baggott (34:36)

But that's exactly what one of my other neighbors said. You know, he said they've got to be. Be doing it purposely from the inside as a. He said, but you know, I don't know that I've ever said a cuss word on podcast Woody, but the world's volume. He said, he said they up this time, he said, because one must have bounced out, you know, ricocheted or bounced.

Woody Overton (35:00)

Yeah.

Morgan Baggott (35:00)

And they, they probably don't even know that they lost one or they did, they found out later and they're in there.

Woody Overton (35:06)

And it goes back to me saying there's no such thing as a perfect crime. You can plan it the best way you want to, et cetera, but you're always going to leave something behind.

Morgan Baggott (35:15)

So I want the whole wide world to know that VPSO has this casing.

Woody Overton (35:20)

Yeah, wait, wait, wait. We're going to get to that. So the, the I tell you to go back inside and call, you do go back inside and call, but you didn't call 91 1. You call the regular sheriff's office line and it's recorded. I heard it right?

Morgan Baggott (35:37)

Yep.

Woody Overton (35:38)

Okay. FYI people, every law enforcement agency has a non emergency line. And then you have the 911 line, non emergency line. If you call that and you're in the shit like Morgan was in the shit, even though I feel quite certain they were gone by this time. But you don't know that. But the, you call the non emergency line where they're like well okay, we'll report to deputies. And they report to the deputy. They're and she did ask you is anybody hurt? And he said no. Well guess what? That kicks it back on the burn. They have another shit hot call somewhere. They're, they're gonna handle that. Right. But you call 911, you say shots fired. And, and nobody's gone to the road and found a casing. And, and, but I'm guessing it's 10, 15 minutes gone by by this time. And you checked with the neighbors and all that? Don't do that. It's the cops job to do that. Even if you don't trust the cops, it's their job to do that. And they all got body cameras, cameras. And now that and nine times out of 10 the, the deputy that shows up is going not even though he may know who you are through general terms of things. They're going to do their job. First of all, they're going to approach. I would never drive straight up to your house. I mean I'm driving past your house fast. I can, I'm scanning an area. I'm coming back in before I get out. If it's coming in I want. Because I don't know if the shooter's still in there. I know the cops just got killed last week, responded to a call, two of them and a canine got shot in one of the cities story I was covering. They, the guy waited on to get there and hid in the bushes and killed him. And that happens every day. But the, the you called the non emergency line. Ultimately they dispatched somebody out and in what happened.

Morgan Baggott (37:30)

Very quickly in my defense about not calling 91 1, I know the VPSO number by heart. 2, 3, 8, 13 11. Because I. Unfortunately, because of my whole life.

Woody Overton (37:42)

Right.

Morgan Baggott (37:43)

I've had to call it a lot of times, so.

Woody Overton (37:45)

Right. But hey, hey, hey, what's the, what's the emergency number? If you're. It's. There's emergency. They teach you in kindergarten.

Morgan Baggott (37:53)

91 1. My 5 year old knows it.

Woody Overton (37:56)

Right. All right. Sorry guy. But hey, I'm not, I'm not going to fuss with you anymore about that. I just. The next time you would had so, so much a better chance of them getting caught. And if they intend to come on through and do an actual killing, it. It's just you had a. You have a lot of their chance. If you're in a defensive position and you're. And you're watching and you're waiting and for them to get inside of your house, you would have known where they were coming through and you could have shot that door. But anyway, VPSO deputy responds by this time you record and you're in the yard, y'. All. I'm not gonna play it all for you, but I might put it up for patron convicts or something. But the. You're in the yard. They actually passed up your house. Right. Or he passed up your house.

Morgan Baggott (38:46)

And then they drove up my driveway and then they drove all the way to the back of my property.

Woody Overton (38:53)

Right.

Morgan Baggott (38:55)

So it, it was in his defense, it was a deputy I don't think I've ever seen before. And he said he wasn't from here, but I'm going to say 9 out of 10 VPSO deputies know where Morgan Baggett's house is. Because of the past, they've been here at least once.

Woody Overton (39:18)

Get it? And in his defense, I'm saying I would have done the same thing. I'm not going to just pull up on a shooting scene, people reporting shooting without getting the scope of the land first. If you're going to shoot, shoot me. You're gonna have to shoot me driving by. But the. He gets out and you have the recorder on and you have a flying case of the red ass.

Morgan Baggott (39:37)

And I get that makes you think he wasn't worried.

Woody Overton (39:42)

What?

Morgan Baggott (39:43)

I'm sorry I said it kind of makes me think he wasn't worried. He knew he didn't have nothing to worry about.

Woody Overton (39:49)

I. I'm not gonna say. I'm not gonna say That I, I, that's inside of your head. No I'm again if you especially you're out there standing I'm going to make and I've done it 100 times. I'm going to make a pass through the area even if it didn't come in 911 I'm looking to see if there's anybody hiding or if they're going to fire upon me and it's an ambush then they're going to have to shoot me when I'm driving by and I'm not a steel target for them. But besides that he gets there introduce himself you tell what happened and the and we'll get back to in just a second but you tell what happened but and I already knew what he was going to say that they and y' all it was getting dark. It was getting dark and that was right around dark time. And whenever you told me that y' all they, they found the case scene I'm like should have left it there. That's the cop's job. This is one things that I'm thinking because it any even though he told his job you know, you told him that they had the case and he said where and he wants to go down look at it. And his supervisor called and I can assure you that they, they know if something comes in and Morgan Baggage's house the supervisor is going to call right and see what's going on but didn't come in911 he's talking to y' all et cetera. And I know this goes on and off I'm paraphrasing so we're going to run out of but the my mom.

Morgan Baggott (41:24)

Say keep your cool, please keep your absolutely.

Woody Overton (41:27)

And I know you had you had the red ass and I get that but the that they had already whoever already picked up the casing and it's not totally true. I think the cops said well they couldn't have got off anything off of it anyway. That's not true. They could have if it's not cross contaminated with DNA they could at least tested it for DNA or partial fingerprints or anything. But it it's up because the chain of custody from the detective standpoint it's already because y' all picked it up and, and, and but that's neither here nor there. Next time that won't happen. But at some point he and I want to get to this point. The, the he standard questions. He's asking all the standard questions how many people live here and who heard the shots blah blah, blah, blah. Blah. Everything that a cop would ask their train ass. They're in there.

Morgan Baggott (42:21)

Very upset and irritated that he stood in my driveway and looked in my face and said, is there any reason anybody has any beef with you? Did you have beef with somebody as if you didn't know where he was coming?

Woody Overton (42:35)

And I was very irritated and that's exactly what I was going to say next. And he asked you something to the fact of is it. Do you have beef with anybody? Is there any reason somebody would be shooting at your house? And. And you said, I got a beef with everybody that has on that uniform and that badge. And I was like, oh, fuck. The. The. But I understand you were mad. Okay.

Morgan Baggott (43:04)

But I also said I did anyone who murdered Bradley straight.

Woody Overton (43:11)

That's true. That's true. And you did. And in free country. And I'm sure these guys have seen wor responded. But the. As far as y', all it. Yeah, well, thank God, because you probably, you know, I don't think you would have gone to jail because you. You're the victim in the case and, you know, rightfully so you're upset. Oh, you did tell him. You said I was going next time. Something to the fact next time I'm going to shoot off around myself. And he was like, well, shoot it into the ground, please, because what goes up must come down. You know, he's not telling you, don't shoot. He said, you have right to defend yourself, but shoot it into the ground because you don't. And that's true. People don't think that. But they're just like the shooting at your house. They don't know where those bullets are going. When you fire that bullet, you can't ever get it back. Yeah. And. And. But next time, your ass ain't going outside. You can call your neighbors after you call 91 1, you're going to barricade yourself inside, period. And let them do their jobs. And if they don't do it them, we'll let the world know they didn't do it. Okay. But at some point, he goes down to see where the casing is, is what exactly I've done. I probably took a picture of it. And at some point, he gives you your file number. You're like, what I need this for? Well, you know what? It's every time a deputy goes out, and they should be. Unless it's like my neighbor's dogs in the yard rent a yard and pooped. Right. Even that's supposed to be written up. Every call they go on. When they go back 10 8. They say I'm 1097. 10 8. File number in times. And that's the time they were dispatched to the call to the time they get there. And they say 1097 on scene. And to the time they leave 1098 back in service. They give them the times. That's for their report. They have blanks in their reports. They got to fill in what time you got the call, what time you arrive, what time did you leave? File number. And it all gets filed away if there's no suspects and stuff like they're hidden in. Well, there's about a million suspects in this case, but there's no active suspect that didn't get stopped leaving the scene or whatever. It's probably not going to the detective's desk. And this probably didn't go to the detective's desk anyway. But it's public record. And that's why I was saying earlier. I didn't. I. I put you on the spot about talking about this. But the. I could have done another way. But guess what? It's public record. You made the report. And so whoever did it can go fuck themselves. You're stupid. You're stupid, stupid, stupid. Because you can't get those bullets back. And she had her babies in the house.

Morgan Baggott (45:57)

Say this, Woody, but I. It should concern me and I should be a lot more scared than I am. I'm more infuriated than anything. You know. This.

Woody Overton (46:06)

This.

Morgan Baggott (46:06)

This is not the first time it happened. And what do you think you're doing? I haven't shut up yet.

Woody Overton (46:12)

Right.

Morgan Baggott (46:12)

What makes you think I'm gonna. You just. Just keep on firing shots around the house. What's it gonna do?

Woody Overton (46:18)

Right?

Morgan Baggott (46:18)

I don't understand right now.

Woody Overton (46:20)

The. The, the. And they're listening to us. You know that, right? The. They're listening to this episode.

Morgan Baggott (46:29)

So they're watching like a hawk.

Woody Overton (46:31)

Absolutely. And. And. And for them to take the time to go down there and do that. Yeah. Who like them hacking all my shit and doing whatever. Okay. Yeah. That's really going to scare me the fuck off. Right. All it did was make me infuriated. And like now bitches. Not that I wasn't going to get you anyway. Now I'm really going to take my time and I'm a hammer your ass. The Morgan baggot that I know. Go ahead and fire shots at me and my kids. And while I'm sitting in the house and it. Do that and I'm really going to blow it up. So that's. But afterwards you. You Were like, I don't want to say anything about it because, you know, I don't want whatever. You know what them. I'm gonna give them a big old double. Go yourselves. All you did is stir the pot, and now the whole world knows.

Morgan Baggott (47:24)

Already scared enough. And that's why I really didn't want to say anything.

Woody Overton (47:28)

That's true. That's true. You told me, you said, you told me, you said, I don't want other people to quit giving the information because they're worried about them coming, doing this to them. And I get that. But the 99% of the people getting the information from are anonymous anyway or will remain so until the appropriate time. And I get that. I think they're good people other than the shitbirds who are trying to throw us off course. They're good people who truly, truly care that Bradley and Austin got murdered. Yeah.

Morgan Baggott (48:07)

So you and I know this. And I really want to mention. And I'm not going to say a name. What about the one dude who has contacted me and he's really kind of fishing for information more than giving. But what do you think the other key players would think about him calling me?

Woody Overton (48:25)

If everybody that is involved that knew either. It's one of two ways. Either they have gotten together to really tighten up their stories and say, okay, well, you know what, let's do this. We can be anonymous or we can reach out and fish for information, which I know that's going on. But either they've gotten together and got their story straight and said, this is what I'm going to say. You say this, blah, blah, blah, or has so and so call in and see, you know, anonymously and see if they can get any more information out of them. But other than that, I'm telling you but. And I said it before to you, I don't think I've said it on air. These. They're going to fucking flip on each other. And the. You're not dealing with rocket scientists. You're not dealing with rocket scientists. What you're dealing with is they've been getting away with because these cases were not properly worked. And that's a fact. The. But when it comes time for the nut cutting, when it comes time when the information are. Everything that's being brought together is. Is presented to the proper authorities and those motherfuckers show up. I shouldn't call them. Those guys show up. Those professionals show up with badges and not from Vernon Parish Sheriff's Office. The first one to squeals getting the deal. And. And it's going to happen. It happens in every case. Is. Is it unfortunate? Sure it is. You would like them all to go get the same amount of time, but they' and that's not going to happen. One of them is already planning to squeal and I'm not saying anything about anything. It's just, it's just. It's just a matter of time. And so fire shots at our house if you want to. Morgan's not going to shut up. Woody Overton is not going to quit doing the podcast. I'm not going to quit digging. And if you are doing anything in this wrong, in this case, whether you're killers or the powers that be or whatever, you better unfuck it. You better get off of it as quick as you can. And you think I'm making empty threats? I don't make empty threats. Get off of it as quick as you can. You better figure out how to unfuck yourself because this is not my first rodeo. I already know what's going on. And the next round of bombs that I'm dropping or coming, they're coming where you lie about it in response to this, you doubly so. And I'm gonna leave it on the teaser end on that. But Morgan, the, the, the shit show, it's it. It's it. I mean, business owners, good people calling and the everyday like holy. That you know and heard this and heard that and da, da, da. And what I. We know for a fact or. And I'm not going to tip the hand because I don't want them to know. We know for a fact that certain things have been said, certain instructions have been given and, and all that doesn't look good for you. And when. When what's done in darkness comes to light, you're gonna have to explain that too. Why are you so worried about little Morgan Baggott and. And Woody Overton, a podcaster. Because you know we're about to butt you, pardon my French, people. That's just the way that it is. And I didn't do it. Bradley was. Was your ex husband and the father your son that I didn't have a dog in this fight. I took it up Bradley's case and holy shit. The. You know.

Morgan Baggott (52:03)

And more and more to tell you I did it. I. You can't tell me I did it.

Woody Overton (52:08)

No. Yeah, and you did. You tried to warn me. It's so much more. And I'm like, I don't want to hear about all that right now. Because through investigation, if I got to it, which I did Austin's part. Now it's at least two. And I know that. And it just piles on every day. Every day. And the people. Guess what? Here's a real. You know, I was going to talk about Ms. Ruth Holt and them today. And the. I actually talked to some family members today, Morgan, since I texted you and stuff. And this, that's a case, y'. All. This lady was 86 years old and her daughter is within her 60s and they were murdered inside the home. And I want to talk about that next week. Just even to mention it briefly. But if I y', all, if you have any personal information that I don't. I don't want to hear about suspects. I'm not trying to solve the crime for Vernon Parish Sheriff's Office. I want to hear what kind of person Ms. Reef was. I want to hear what kind of person her daughter was. Because let me tell you what I heard today directly from a family member and I'll say the detective's name, Detective Burrell told them that that 86 year old lady was in the meth life.

Morgan Baggott (53:26)

Yeah, they spread lies like that.

Woody Overton (53:29)

She. She was a role player at Fort Polk for the last eight years where they trained the soldiers. And she would go act like. Like, you know, civilian, whatever type scenario. 86. Her husband was double retired from law enforcement from Shreveport. The. The. But you have to tell the family members that, that, that she's a dope head. That's why whether you, you know, you were. You're. Whether you're implicated because you had people in her lives that were dope heads. But it doesn't matter. That doesn't. That's not an excuse for murder. Even if she was a dope head, which I. My entire 30 years, I've never met an 86 year old opet. They don't live to be that. Live to be that old. But it doesn't make them right for it to be murdered. But I don't want to get off on that too much because I got a lot of shit to say about that next week. But I do want to ask the listeners out there, message me personal details if you know what our favorite food was or you would know the, you know, whatever, you know, she liked to sing and whatever. Just. I want some. I want to put a human face to them because they ain't got it. There's like three fucking news articles since they've been murdered and this was eight months ago and most of them are right when it came out. And the last one was back in April and clearly states that this is the dumbest fucking thing I've ever heard of. They clearly asking for help in this unsolved homicides. By the way. 86 year old gets murdered in the state of Louisiana. That's a death penalty case. In anybody over 82 you could be tried for the death penalty. If it was just one person. This is two and has aggravating circumstances. The home invasion, whatever it may be. This is a death penalty case and you only got three stories. But in the story, the last one, the, the most recent one that I was reading today, it's Sam Kraft says we do not believe there is an ongoing danger to the public.

Morgan Baggott (55:34)

How do you know that, sir?

Woody Overton (55:36)

Well, what the. You guys, I was thinking cop brain, maybe they got the suspect in jail already or something. But you. Why would you even say that? You're at, you're. Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. I don't care what we hear. We're not here to speculate about that. But we can talk about that next week. What I'm saying is this. Why would you. Unless the reporters hit you up. It's been six months and you hadn't said a peep about it and you go on about no we're all for a reward and you know we need information and da da da da da. But there's no threat to the public. Why didn't say that.

Morgan Baggott (56:13)

That is his generic statement. No matter what happens here, that is what they say in every single case.

Woody Overton (56:21)

My mom is almost 84 and, and you know what? I'm that no more shade. Yeah, I don't have to throw shade. These dudes and exactly what I've been saying since, since in the beginning I thought it was incompetence to. Now I can't get off other thoughts. These, these people are making themselves look so bad. And it is what it is.

Morgan Baggott (56:47)

So talk about one more thing and, and this may be so irrelevant to you comment section on their social media page. I looked at it today. We've got what, 64 parishes in Louisiana. I looked at half of them. All of the parishes social media pages you can comment. I didn't make it through all 60 something of them, but you can comment on behalf of them that I looked at. But guess whose social media you cannot comment on. Guess when they turn that off. Yeah, right after I started Tick tock they turned their, the entire comment section off.

Woody Overton (57:28)

Yep, yep. And, and, and I saw that and I've seen posts about that and everything also. Well you know what I'm Pretty sure it's because they're getting the smoked out of them. And it is what it is. You put yourself in the public eye. Just like me being a podcast or people leaving bad reviews or whatever. A one star. I'm like, oh, well, I asked for it. I'm doing this. You got to be a little bit thicker skin than that. But real quick, you promised me next time you're going to do what?

Morgan Baggott (58:03)

Call 911 immediately.

Woody Overton (58:05)

Not only just for gunshots. You hear a bump in the night. This is to anybody out there that you hear a bump in the night. No, not scared. You're not scared. You're aware. You're a little scared means you can't do anything. Scared means you freeze the fuck up and you're laying there to die. You are not scared. I'm telling you all out there, she's not scared. She may be a little bit afraid of the unknown, but that afraid makes her sharp. And I know you have countermeasures in place and everything else, but go ahead.

Morgan Baggott (58:43)

The entire Fort Polk shook today, and they had detonated a. A bomb out in the training area. My phone rang seconds later. It was my baby sister. And she said, my door just shook.

Woody Overton (58:58)

Oh, there you go. And that means she's aware.

Morgan Baggott (59:02)

And, yeah, I mean, I said, okay. I said, get. Get your weapons and set up on your bed. And then it clicked. I said, everybody's doors just shook because everybody in my whole office was like, oh, my gosh. You know, you would think we would be used to that by now.

Woody Overton (59:18)

Right? Right, Right.

Morgan Baggott (59:20)

But, yes, we are so aware. Every tiny little thing that happens, bam. We're ready. The time the shooting, before this last shots fired, my neighbor pulled up in my yard and I'm telling you, on two wheels, and reached over in his passenger seat and pulled out the most ridiculous looking gun I've ever seen in my life. Yelling at us, are y' all okay? Are y' all okay?

Woody Overton (59:45)

Right?

Morgan Baggott (59:46)

And when I tell you I've got people watching out for us.

Woody Overton (59:50)

Right?

Morgan Baggott (59:50)

Everybody has their eye on this hill, y'.

Woody Overton (59:53)

All. I had just told Morgan and her mama the night before. I said, I feel like Morgan is safer than she's ever been an entire history or life, because you have so much focus on you now. And then. Then the next night, they pop off rounds. Okay? And it's happened before. We're not going to go into that. The. The. We're just talking about this time, and we're letting them know, okay? Hey. Yeah. She had to call the cops and the neighbors came out of their houses. It's like in their fast cars that burn rubber. Like squeal the tires like, ooh, I'm impressed. Right? You got a fast car. And the. Exactly. But I'm being facetious. But the you can shoot your guns, do whatever. You're a fucking idiot. It's by the grace of God she didn't call 911 and there didn't just happen to be somebody down the road that got your ass. But secondly, it's by the grace of God you can kill somebody. But in the Future you're calling 911. Let them respond. Let them secure the scene and you go out there and say whatever you want to. But I would urge you people unless the cops being a dick to you if they're being a professional in the beginning the don't be addicted to them. They. They might. You know that. No. Well I didn't say you were being but you. You were. But you were a bit of a bitch. I'm sorry but you were. I know he was a good guy. He was. And it doesn't matter. That's neither here nor there that the you had rights. You. You've been living this for so long. Absolutely. And look look, look that cops. That's not the first he's heard a lot worse than than what you gave him. All right? And all cops out there have. And that's. You know. Look, when you respond to 911 calls you're not dealing with people on their best day. The 99.9% of them are going to curse you or say something, whatever. But anyway, I'm glad you're safe. This went way out of pocket which is fine. Totally raw and unscripted is how I like it. The.

Morgan Baggott (62:08)

Two separate episodes.

Woody Overton (62:10)

I think we will we need to talk again but when we get off of here I briefly because I'm really, really late. Y'. All. This is this not been a week from hell. It's just been a week the and I got to get this to editing but I also need to tell you what's coming next week so you could be prepared. All right.

Morgan Baggott (62:33)

Thank you, Woody.

Woody Overton (62:34)

All right, hold on one second. Let me do my closing. Stay on the phone. All right, everybody, please Continue calling your tips 313RRC Tip for the People that don't understand how investigations work. Guess when I'm close this investigation I'm gonna close it when it's time and not a second before and not a second later. So that's that. But keep calling in your tips. No and Look, I know I don't get to respond to everybody, but, you know, some people I've already. It doesn't matter if I don't respond to you and call it in again or send it in again and. And get back to you. The. I got some. Some people I have way more knowledge that you don't have. You don't have any knowledge about Morgan that are in Burning Parish, that are helping me, and I call them. Let me say this, too. Morgan and I do not collaborate on 95% of what I'm doing. Correct. Morgan and I know that drives you crazy. And Morgan will get some information she'll send to me. I'm like, I already. I already have that. But I. Yeah, well. But no, it's. No, but you never know if I didn't have it. You sent me a lot of that I don't have, too. But I don't. I want. So obviously, just like me, I have haters out there, right? Morgan's got some haters out there. And. And people met. People message me and be like, I don't want Morgan Baggett to know this, but da, da, da, da. And I take it for what it's worth and follow and what have you. The. The. I don't hate you, but the. What I'm. My point being is continue to call on your tips. And if you don't want me to tell Morgan, I won't tell Morgan. The. All I care about is getting justice for Bradley and justice for Austin, all right? And to their families. God bless them. I promise you. The. I promise you I'm gonna stand by what I said before, and I want to. And you know who I am. You know who I'm talking to you. I know you're listening. I'm going to. And we'll get to sit together and I get to put the human face on me, but I'm just not there yet. But as soon as I get there, that's the first thing that I'm doing. All right? And I love and appreciate each and every one of y'. All. Thank you for liking, tuning in and sharing and all that good podcast shit I'm supposed to say. I'm Woody Overton, your host of Real Life, Real Crime, the podcast until next time or ever. Don't let me catch you down on murder by you. Peace. You have the right to remain silent. Anything you say can and will be used against you in a court of law. You have a right to an attorney prior to it during any question. If you can't afford one the quarter point one for you do you understand your rights when the wolf is at your door your running's over that's for sure you already know is all about you cut you down no matter about you now you better walk alive. Bubba Wallace here from 2311 Racing Funny thing about being fast, you end up waiting a lot. First to show up, first in line, then just waiting. Me, I rev up Jumba casino with over 200 social casino games.

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