Cindy Overton (21:50)
Without further ado, let's talk about glory. Ho. All right, so back in. I think it was 2004, maybe 2005. I don't remember which year. I was working as a detective for the Livingston Parish Sheriff's Office. And the. I got called in to Chief Kearney Foster's office and anytime he called for me to come downstairs, I generally think, oh, Lord, what did I do now? And a lot of people were scared of Chief Foster. I was never scared of him, but he. I mean, when I got called in this office, a lot of times it was what I called getting called on the carpet for something I screwed up. And I was going to get my ass chewed out. But every time, rightfully so that I got called in the carpet. But a lot of times it was just about cases and stuff. But anyway, Ms. Carney called and said, hey, boy, I need to come down here. I was like, oh, okay, yes sir. And so go down. And there was another. I'm not going to say any names on this one. And you'll see at the end why. And there was another detective had got called in also. And so Kearney sitting behind his desk and I could see him, my mind's eye now. And y'all know, if you hadn't heard, he died passed from COVID And that breaks my heart. And God bless his family, his beautiful wife. And anyway, back to that day, he's. He. I didn't know if I was in trouble. He said, come on, have a seat. And I did. And the other detective was sitting with me and he leaned back and he steeple his fingers up and he'd lean back and that big leather back chair, high leather back chair said, boys, we have a problem. I'm thinking, oh shit, what did I do? And I said, okay. And he said, we got a real problem and I need you to handle it. I said, okay. And I'm thinking maybe I'm. I'm off the hook here, right? And he said, but I didn't know. So he said, we have a problem with complaints from citizens about they're going to parks and they're going to the restrooms and they've seen men engage in sexual activities with each other. I'm like, what the. And he said they. They've been also causing damage to property at these parks. And the men's bathroom stalls, they're cutting holes in the wall in between the stalls so they can have sex in through these holes. I'm like, oh God, here we go. And some more. I hate to say I'm sure it's not just a Livingston Parish thing, but it's, you know, always seemed that I was working some type of sex case and I so miss car. Tell me, you know, what's the deal? And he said, in the last couple of months we received like three different complaints from two different places that the one guy was going in to use the restroom, he'd been jogging. And he could hear two guys basically screwing in the stall. Like the whole, the whole partition was shaking and there was some moaning and groaning going on. And they called it in. And by the time the uniformed deputies got, the other guys had left. And when they heard you know, the other person in the restroom. And he said, and it happened again and it happened a third time. He said, we need to do something about it. I'm like, okay, what are we going to do? And he said, well, I want you to go out there undercover and set them up. I'm like, okay, well, I mean, you know, I'm kind of lost on them. Like how you want me to set them up? He said, I want one of y'all to go undercover, mic yourself up and go in one of these stalls and see if somebody comes to solicit sex from you. I'm thinking, oh God, here we go. I can, I can only imagine what kind of show this is going to be. He said, you know, he gave me the locations and he said, go out, do some reconciling and come up with a plan, Woody, and, and figure out how, how to bust them. So I did. We went to the three different locations and okay, so this is happening during the daytime, y'all, and like during business hours and not, not at nighttime or anything like that. The parks were closed, whatever the. So we go out around lunchtime and we set off at a distance on this one park and I'm watching the men's bathroom. And sure enough, around 11 o'clock, see a truck pull up. Guy doesn't get out. And then a few minutes later, another truck comes cruising by. And they came back cruising by and saw the guy sitting in his truck. Guy gets out, he goes in. As soon as he goes in, the guy that was waiting in his truck gets out and goes in behind him. And they're in there for like 15, 20 minutes. And then they both come out and they leave and go the separate way. And I'm like, well, that's probably what they're talking about. So I go in and, and look at the stalls and sure enough, there was. You open the door to the stall is. It was two stall bathroom. He had the urinals on the wall across from a two stall bathroom in the door swinging inward and you can lock it from the inside. When you open the door, you can see there is a hole in between. If you were sitting down on the toilet, it'd be almost at your face. We'll put it like that. Okay. And I'm like, holy shit, is this really a thing? You know, I mean, the, I'm not bashing people for, you know, being heterosexual or gay or whatever. That's not my, my jam, right? But these people having strangers having sex in a bathroom, that, that kind of threw Me for a loop. So I went to the next one. And again, same type of thing. We saw numerous people coming and going on this one. This saw on the same day during the afternoon time. And we saw males going and coming, you know, driving up, going in separately, coming out and what have you. Could only assume that they're doing something. Now, the problem with it is on bus, I could have ran in the first time we saw two guys go in. But what are you going to do? Kick in the stall door? The. I don't know. You know, you certainly have a reasonable expectation of privacy. If you go on even it's a public restroom you going into to defecate or poo or whatever you want to call it. You know, I tell my son, I read in the book, everybody poops. Right, I get that. But the, the. If you go in the stall and you lock the door, I would think that you had a certain reasonable expectation of privacy. So you can't hit it like that. Go to the third one. The third one didn't even have the glory hole thing. That. I'll explain that term in a minute. Third one didn't even have the whole thing. But there were definitely men going in, watching. One person would show up and until another one would show up and then one would go in, the other one follow men, and they had a reasonable amount of time to be engaged in some type of sexual activity. I would say, of course, that's speculation till you can prove it. So I go and I'll look it up. I googled it in men having sex in public bathrooms, and it came back glory hole. And. And that's what they call the hole in the wall where somebody cuts it out. And I don't know what kind of tools it is because I know one of them was a plywood divider, if you will. But another one was like this hard plastic material, I don't know, composite, whatever you call it. So you did. You know, for you to go in there and do that, you're destroying public property, first of all. But then if you're going to cut a hole in the wall, there's a reason for it. And so glory hole is a term they use when males cut a hole in the wall in the bathroom stall, specifically to have sex, anonymous sex, usually with another male. All right, I'm educated now, right? I know what a glory hole is. Now, I had to get the plan together. So what I decided to do was get a team of three detectives, and I'm not going to say their names myself, and Two other detectives and we had a meeting. I said look, this is what we're going to do. We can get a body mic and you oh, let me back up and digress. So here's how the glory hole works. When you go into a stall and you sit down on the toilet, the you don't just say hey, you want to have sex? There's a foot tap. You do a three foot tap and the guys in the stall next to you isn't in there really taking a. And he's there to get a blow job or whatever. He free foot taps back, right? So that's the signal and they, they do it. So I tell the Texas for real Dave, we're going to body mic up and send one of you in. And you go in and if somebody comes to the stall next to you and they tap their foot three times, then you tap your foot back three times. And if they make, you know, forward gesture like you know, talk to you about sex or put their penis through the wall or whatever, then we'll have a code word once the law is broken and we'll have a code word and you say that and then when you say that code word we'll know to come running in. All right, so game plan is developed. The biggest question is who's going to be the one that gets mic'd up? And I'm like, damn. So they were like I don't want to do it, I don't want to do it. I said, you know, want to withdraw straws for to pick a number or something. So we did, actually ended up doing rock paper scissors and guess what? I lost. But I told him, I said I'm only doing one, you know, I'll do the first one and if we have to go to the next one, you know, one of you, we're gonna have to do the other one, right? So we go the next day we park at an off site location and where I knew there was a glory hole and I miked up and a little mic on my back and we came up with the code word and said buddy, what's it going to be? And I said, well if the law is broken, I'll say it's hot in here and that yalls code word. They come in and arrest the person because you know, kick the stall door, whatever you gotta do. Because the laws I, you know, I'm telling you, law's been broken. I can't, I'm not gonna be able to scream it out on the microphone or whatever. But you, if I Say, it's hot in here. You come running and arrest the person. So we do it. Put the mic on my back, they tape it up. I pull around. I'm in an unmarked vehicle. I pull around, there's already a truck waiting there. And I pull in and get out. It's. It's a bright bluebird sky day. It was in summertime, and there wasn't a lot of people around. I'm talking about, like, this was, like, on Wednesday, and in the middle of the business day, there's not a lot of people in the park. The. I get out, I walk in, and, you know, I'm a little bit nervous, and I didn't look over at the. The guy in the truck beside me. It was parked a couple spots away, and it was a blackmail. And so I get out and I walk in. I go in the first stall, and I close the door, and I locked it, and I sat down on the toilet. And sure enough, within a minute or two, I hear somebody come in. I hear the stall door open next to me. And I'm sitting there, and I'm thinking, you know, what the hell is going to happen, right? Then I hear. And I'm like, oh, here we go. So I went. I tapped back and. And I heard a voice say, hey. And I said, hey. No law broken there, right? And public restroom, even though we're in our stalls. Then the next thing I know, before I could say anything else or think anything else, now I got this hole just to my left. The. I was in the first stall, and the holes to my left. Next thing I know, I see this big black anaconda come through the wall. All right? A penis, y'all. And it was erect. And for I. I gave you all the warning ahead of time. It was erect, and it was for a lot of. For a lack of a better description, it was jumping up and down with the. But I could only assume was the guy's heartbeat, right? It was throbbing. And he's like, hey, hey, you want to suck it? Suck it, man. Suck it. And I was like, it's hiding here. It's hiding here. It's hot in here, right? And he's like, yeah, it's hot in here, but good, good. Once you give it a suck, I'm like, it's hot in here. And so here they come. Those two detects come running in. And I told him I was gonna be in the first stall. They kicked the door on second stall, pull the guy out, his erect penis and everything, and they put him against the Wall and you know, tell him pull his pants up and cuff him and stuff him. And we get a uniform patrol guy to come over and pick him up and take him to the jail. We'll worry about him. We'll book him later, right? But hey, that's. This is a serious felony charge. Obscenity at the very worst. I mean, at the very least, which, you know, you get convicted of, that you have to register as a sex offender and your life is screwed for the rest of your life. Everywhere you go to live, you have to mail out the notices. You got to, you know, the. You listed as a sex offender on Louisiana sex offender registry. It's just bad shit. Okay, so great arrest. You know, Chief Foster's got to be happy about that one, right? So we leave that location, we go to the next one and. But we're riding to the next one. They're laughing at me the whole time. And they were like, oh, did you see how big that thing was? And hey, you want to suck it, Woody? You want to suck it? Oh, what do you want? Just put it in your mouth and suck it. And. And I'm like, huh? You, You. I'm never gonna live this down. This is after the Cajun queen stuff from previous episodes, right? And so, yeah, they're like, come on, suck it, Cajun Queen. And I'm like, okay. So one will say the younger one detective was really riding my ass. And we're friends, right? And. And you know, known each other forever and everything per. Lies in each other's hands every day and all that kind of stuff. Work case together. But now, you know, nobody can ride a cop like another cop and not ride it in a sexual term. Y'all mean like riding and joking and razz them and. And hazeln and everything else. But I was catching it non stop. So we get out the second stage in location and I'm like, you, I'm not doing it this time. And oh, this location was the one that did not have. We cruised the first one, the second one that had the glory hole. This one, there was nobody there. We went to. It's like 12:30 by this time. We went to the third location that did not have the glory hole and there was nobody there. I said, well, you know, would go off my. I said I'm not doing it that you're doing this. This one. I'm not gonna say his name. And he's like, I guess it's only fair. And I was a little bit pissed off, but not really pissed off. And he Was like, you know, if I do it, are you gonna suck it? And I was like, you put the microphone on, go in, right? So he mic'd him up and he went in the undercover car and he pulled up. But on this park, y'all, there was one way in. It's a big circle around and one way out. You can't. There's no two way traffic. But there were cars parked intermittently throughout the park, if you will. But you don't know what they're parking there. They could be eating their lunch or doing whatever. So we send them in and undercover. Of course, we all had undercover vehicles, but when we made the first pass through, even when you send them in and unmarked undercover poopty mobile is what we call it. And he goes in, he parks a man as soon as he parks one of the guys. And it was a white Volvo station wagon. I'll never forget it. The had been parked at the. At the front entrance apart where they could see when the vehicles turn in and come around. He followed him. He immediately follows him. Follows him around to the bathroom. The detective goes in and he didn't realize this guy was this close. And. And the detective goes in to the restroom. This white Volvo station wagon comes in skidding in sideways like Bow and Luke Duke, like he's in a hurry. Not that bad, y'all. But he came in there really fast and park, Caddy corner, whatever, and almost ran into this white male, gets out an older gentleman in a business suit, okay, in Thai, and he goes in the bathroom. Well, the detective had gone in and he went to the first urinal because that. Not because of the plan, but because he had to urinate. So he's actually urinating when this guy comes into the bathroom. And the guy comes straight over to him and. And looks down on the detective wise urinating and says, hey, that's nice, man, that's nice. And the detective's like, didn't. I mean, he didn't mean to get caught in a situation. It's like, oh. And. And so you can hear him zipping himself up. And the guy's like, no, you don't have to put it up, baby. You don't have to put it up. And he said, I want to. I want to see it. Let me touch it. Let me, let me suck on it for you. And he's like, oh, no, no. He said, he says, it's hot here. And my detective house whiffs like, let's go. I said, nope, let's let him. Wait a minute. I Don't think I heard it correctly. And so you get the guy's proposition totally is like, no, I told you not to put up. Look, I'll take mine out. And you could hear the pants unzip, and you hear him masturbating. And the detectives going, it's hiding here. It's hiding here. My buddy's going, man, what do we got to get us a new. Give it a second. And he's like, it's hiding here. And I said, all right, let's go. So we go in, and you still hear him going, it's hiding here. It's hiding here. We enter the bathroom. When you enter the bathroom, the two stalls on the left, two urinals on the right, and there's a dead space on the brick wall in the back. The detective has his back against the wall. The guy in the suit is in front of him, his pants down, masturbating on him. And I was like, holy shit. So we grab him, slam against the wall, pat first and down, had him pull his own pants up, you know, and then handcuffed him, right? And say, you're under arrest. Actually. Actually, by waiting a second, I got a better charge because it would have been just obscenity had he been masturbating. But the. The very fact that he was masturbating and he actually touched the detective with his penis made it a sexual battery charge, which is even better. And look, so we cuffed him up, and that detective was so mad at me, and, I mean, he was, like, fighting mad. He's reading the faces. You son of a. Yeah. I said, it's hiding here. It's hiding here. I said, yeah, but. And, you know, you asked me that, you know, I want to suck it again. That was my way of getting the back at him. I probably shouldn't have done it, but. So we. We get another unit, take the guy to jail, Go to jail, do the paperwork and everything. And the. Hey, my buddy won't even talk to me. I mean, he's got the real case of the red ass. But, hey, we got a better charge now because he actually touched him with his penis. And he said. And I was like, man, why didn't you pull your pistol and arrest him? And he said, I. Because I would have slide down in front of him when he's on top of me masturbating and get my pistol out out of my ankle holster. And he said I wasn't going to do that. He said. I mean, he called me everything but a child of God and rightfully so. But, you know, detectives getting back into text. I thought it was pretty funny until I got back to my office, and the phone rings, and I answer it. Detective Overton, he said, come down to my office. It was Chief Foster. I was like, oh. And I mean that. This time there was no doubt I was getting called on the red carpet. So I took that long walk down that staircase, walk down the hallway. I walk in, and Ms. Jackie Lockhart was a secretary. And she looked at me, and she had his outer office's desk in the old courthouse. And she looked at me, and she just started shaking her head. It's like, you know, she knew. Evidently she had heard what had gone on. She was shaking her head like, oh, your ass is in a crack this time. So I go in and. And Mr. Kearney said, shut the door. I shut the door, and he said, come here. And I went, sit down. He said, no, don't sit down. He said, what in the were you doing? I said, what are you talking about? Mr. Kearney said, you know what I'm talking about, man. You. You didn't. You delayed on going in when he gave the code word, and you. Why did you do that? And I told him some. Be honest with you, Mr. Kearney, because I don't lie to you, you know, that. I said I was a little pissed off on the first time when they kept rising me about, or he kept. Specifically, he kept razzing me about, you know, you want to suck it, you know, come on, man, suck it. And he kept asking me, what are you going to suck it, etc. I said, you know, I. I should have been a bigger person. I. I should have gone in when I've heard the first. It's hot. And here. He said, you damn right you should have. You know, he could have been armed and da, da, da, da, da. And y'all, he's 100,000% correct. I should have done it and shouldn't have weighed it, but it was funny as fuck. And I'm still laughing about it to this day, other than the fact that Mr. Kearney chewed my ass up and down. And he was like. I mean, he was furious. And. And then when he got done, he didn't suspend me or anything like that. When he got. He said, boy, you know, I expect better of you than that. And I get that he was razzing you. And, you know, I get why you did what you did. And you thought it was funny. I said, yes, sir, I did. And then he laughed and started laughing. He Said it was kind of funny. He said, but I bet you when I ever asked you, do you want to suck it again? So that's it.
