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Ryan Reynolds
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PT Allen
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Ryan Reynolds
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Cindy Overton
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Woody
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PT Allen
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Karen Curran
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Unknown
You have the right to remain silent. Anything you say can and will be used against you in a court of law. You have a right to an attorney prior to or during any question. If you can't afford one, the court will point one for you. Do you understand your rights.
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Woody
Is at your goal? Your running's over that's for sure Already knows all about you cut you down no matter about you now you better walk alive.
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Unknown
Warning this episode of Real Life Real Crime. The podcast may contain descriptions of acts of violence or that of a sexual nature. It should be for people that are 18 years or older. He my warning people. I do not get the facts of these cases off of the Internet or for some television show. The facts I'm retelling you were presented to me by the victims of the crimes or the perpetrators who committed the crimes against the victims. My descriptions of the crime scenes, what I saw with my own two eyes. If you're gonna get offended, please turn this podcast off now. Thank you.
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Cindy Overton
Hello everybody and welcome to Real Life Real Crime, the podcast and I'm Cindy Overton. I want to thank everybody for tuning in to Real Life Real Crime just listening and liking and sharing. And I want to thank everybody for your well wishes and your love and everything for the family during this time. It is greatly appreciated. Lifers are the best fans in the whole world. Woody wants me to send his love to Y'all and he will be back soon and I know we can take all the time that we need and I know you'll be here when we get back, but I just want to let y'all know how loved and appreciated you are. The stories that we're getting in have helped me tremendously and I am extremely grateful for them. And then I think that they are going to be fun to add as time goes on. So I'm so happy to see people catching on, not being afraid to send in their stories and wanting to share and participate in the community. That's what being a lifer is all about. We are a community and we support each other. Y'all have really shown us that time and time and time again. So from the bottom of my heart, I thank you so much. Today I have two wonderful lifer stories thanks to Mr. P.T. allen and Ms. Mary Templin. And so what I'm going to do is play those two stories for you and at the end I'm going to add something very different than anything we've ever done on the podcast before. So now I'm going to start the stories with pts. I think it's a great one. I chuckled when I listen to it and Mary's will be immediately following and she said that I could either say her name or leave her anonymous. I thought the story was amazing and so I want to shout out her name to everybody because she should be proud of it. Both of our contributors today should be proud of their stories. And Ms. Cheryl Reed, thank you so much for your story that we did on Wednesday. I think. I don't know, my days are all confused, but Cheryl Reid's story was amazing as well. So. So now I'm going to play the stories and then I will pick back up.
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PT Allen
Hello everyone, it's PT Allen again. I tried to record what I thought would be a real podcast and now I have a newfound respect for for what Woody and Ms. Cindy do. There is so much research and preparation. I'm just going to go back to being me. I'm submitting this because the Overton family is having some difficulty right now, and I'd like to ask everyone to please, please include them in your prayers. So a little bit of background. I told you my first one that I recorded that I got into law enforcement quite by accident. Although I was interested from an early age, I just didn't think I'd be any good at it. I grew up in Milledgeville, Georgia. My first exposure to any real crime was in Milledgeville in 1974, a notorious serial killer, Paul John Knowles, who was born in 1946 in Jacksonville, Florida. He came through Milledgeville and murdered a classmate of mine at Sunday school class, Amanda Carr and her father, Carswell Carr. 1974, he stabbed Mr. Carr to death and strangled Amanda with her own hosiery. He attempted necrophilia but was unsuccessful. Paul John Knowles was soon dubbed the Casanova Killer because of his good looks. One of his victims compared him to a combination of Ryan O'Neill and Robert Redford. Knowles wound up pleading guilty to to 18 homicides, including a Florida state trooper. After he was apprehended, Knowles was being escorted to show the location of the deceased trooper's sidearm and more bodies when he picked the lock on his handcuffs. While in an automobile driven by legendary Douglas County, Georgia sheriff Earl Lee and legendary Georgia Bureau of Investigation agent Ronnie angel was in the passenger seat. He pulled the trigger on Sheriff Lee's revolver. It discharged. Ronnie angel drew his weapon, fired through the seat, striking Knowles in the chest three times, killing him instantly. And it was immediately after their funeral that my father, a prominent doctor in Milledgeville, decided to teach me how to shoot a handgun. This is how dad's instruction went. He consumed three Budweisers on the way to the spot where we were going to shoot. When we arrived, he took the three empty Budweiser cans, tossed them as far as he could, reached beneath his sport coat and withdrew a.45 Colt automatic pistol in his right hand and a.32 caliber Colt automatic pistol in his left. If you've seen the old matinee westerns, black and white Westerns, you remember how they kind of flick their wrist like they're trying to sling the bullet out of the barrel? That is exactly what my father did. He emptied both magazines on both pistols, did not miss a can once, and said, that's how it's done. He was an incredible instinctive shooter. So the years went by, and after my Navy career, I found myself between jobs. I got hired by a local police department, served there for five years. When members of the local sheriff's department recruited me for more money, the. The sheriff reluctantly agreed. He was my first cousin, so he knew how much mischief I could get in. And five years there, I got recruited by the state of Georgia. I served there 17 years before retiring. So about four years ago, my wife and I are on the back deck looking at the birds and the trees, and she's sipping on her white wine, looking like a movie star, like she always does. And she says, out of the blue, would you mind listening to a true crime podcast? The voice in my head said, oh, hell no. I have lived it. That is the last thing that I want to listen to. Mysteriously, the voice coming out of my mouth said, of course, beautiful princess. I'll listen to anything that you like. That is the first time that I heard Woody's voice. So I tell you all that to tell you this. I wind up as a state policeman, and I'm working in probably one of the most unique areas in the state of Georgia. We had counties that were so rural you could go two or three days without seeing a fellow law enforcement officer to the bustling city of Augusta, Georgia. And no matter where you work in law enforcement, I dare anybody to say they've had a tough time. That hasn't worked. The masters. When I was in trooper school, I had to go through yet another academy, which was eight months long. Our director of firearms thought he was God's gift to weaponry. And I thought the same thing of myself. And I think we were both off the mark. But so he and I kind of butted heads during school. I did graduate and was assigned to my first post. And wouldn't you know it, two months later, the guy had been butting heads with since we first met is now my new post commander. As luck would have it, we had a recurring problem of goats. Yes, goats. G o a t s wandering out into 90 mile an hour westbound traffic on I20. So I'm going to call this episode the legendary goat slayer. These goats have already caused two crashes, one with injuries. We're getting called out there two, three times a week because the local sheriff's office, they don't have the manpower or the resources to send somebody out there, so they call the state police. This has been going on for several months. We're herding goats off the interstate. One morning I report to the post to sign in and I walk in the back door minding my own business, not bothering a soul, whistling, if I only had a brain from wizard of Oz. Because if I had had a brain, I would have become a doctor. And my post commander meets me in the hallway, puts his finger between my eyes and says, you go take care of this. I don't want to ever hear another damn word about it. Well, I responded exactly as I had been trained. I popped to attention, I said, aye, aye, did a perfect about face, and out to the interstate I go. It didn't take long to locate the goats in a very, very rural area. Now remember, this has Been going on for months. So we've been to every farmhouse in a 10 mile radius. Everyone claims they've either never owned a goat in their lives or their goats have never gotten out of the fence in their lives. So that day, I pull up in amongst the goats, I blow the horn, the goats don't budge. I hit the siren, all four noises, the goats don't budge. So what do you do now? The goats are used to us. We're out there two, three times a week. Then it occurred to me, aha. They issued me a police whistle. I'd never used it before. Maybe that's why they gave it to me. So I got out of the patrol car, walked around towards the goats, inhaled as deeply as I could, and I blew that whistle as long and hard and loud as humanly possible. One of the goats cocks his head to the right and looks at me like I owe him money or some crap. And they go back to grazing. So I didn't know what to do. I didn't grow up in a. On a farm. I grew up in a mental institution. Yeah, my grandfather was chief of psychiatry at a mental hospital. So what do you do? I got out, I walked around closer to the goats and I think I had seen it in a movie, maybe the Cowboys with John Wayne where the kid flails his arms into the air and yells he ah. And all the cows run away. For a cow that works for a goat, that means please come headbutt me in the crotch. So that is when I got mad. Very calmly, I walk around to the trunk of my Ford Crown Victoria patrol car. With goat's knot dripping from my zipper. I unlocked the trunk, I unlocked the padded leather case and withdrew a 1973 Pasadena, California manufacturer.44 automag pistol. Now for those of you that don't know what that is, go on YouTube and look for Clint Eastwood Sudden Impact.44 Automag. And they will show you that thing. It is a huge behemoth stainless steel automatic pistol. And it doesn't fire the.44 Remington cartridge. It fires a straight walled cartridge that is made out of old.30 06 rifle cartridges. You have to make every cartridge yourself. And loaded properly, it is considerably more powerful than the revolver that made Clint Eastwood famous. The.44 Magnum Smith and Wesson. I jacked around into the chamber, I fired six shots and I left six dead goats in the August sun to rot. Incidentally, the.44 Automag has an exit hole on a goat you could stuff a soccer ball into. I figured, okay, the boss told me to handle it, I handled it. I get back. Well, first I pick up the empty brass because each piece of each empty casing is worth about four bucks a piece. So I could reload them again later. Made the weapon safe, put it back in the case, locked it, closed the trunk, turned my lights off, my blue lights off, and I went back to work. He said, handle it. I handled it. Within seconds, I get a call from the dispatcher. And the dispatcher at the post is screaming, Thompson, Thompson469. My badge number at the time, 1019. To the post, 1018. Go back to the office as fast as possible in police code. So I get there, come to find out this is when cell phones were new. Some guy called from the Internet and asked my boss, what kind of guns are you giving those guys nowadays? That's the biggest damn gun I've ever seen. Well, my boss told him, oh, no, it's just a little Glock 22,40 caliber. Those are a common issue for law enforcement all over the country. And the guy on the phone says, no, this thing was huge. My post commander says, oh, okay. He used his Remington 12 gauge 870 shotgun, 14 inch barrel. That too is pretty much common for law enforcement nationwide. The guy on the phone says, no, it was a pistol. Every time he pulled the trigger, fire shot out of the barrel six feet. Therein comes the trouble. My post commander was about five inches taller than me. I'm only five, ten. We're in the middle of the hallway yelling at each other. My point was he told me to handle it, I handled it, but I just didn't handle it the way he wanted me to handle it. He said, why didn't you use your service weapon? Well, it's a.40 Smith & Wesson. I got no damn confidence in it. He was a gentleman about it and he handled my discipline at the post level. However, a new policy came out about two weeks later. No unauthorized firearms allowed in patrol cars at any time. And that post commander and I later developed a huge mutual respect for one another and became very close friends. Oh, he's known to have stated at one time, if things got bad, he wanted Allen standing right beside him, which would be me. So once again, I tell you all that to tell you this. About a year later, some local deputies and I, oh, and a couple of other troopers traveled to see Zach Brown Band. Yes, I like my chicken fried. And it's in a bar. It's a very small venue. This is when Zach Brown first kind of hit the scene. Just in case anybody's curious, all the law enforcement officers booked a room at the hotel across the street so we didn't have to drive after drinking at the concert all night. During a break between two sets of the Zack Brown Band, this trooper from North Georgia starts telling a story about a trooper who shot some goats. And I said, oh, no, he didn't. And the trooper said, oh, yes, he did. And he continues on and he pulls out this big, huge custom pistol. I said, no. And he said, yeah. I let that boy continue on 10 minutes, telling my own story to me until a deputy that knows me stopped him and told the guy he was telling me the story of something that I did. And that, ladies and gentlemen, is the legend of the goat Slayer. I hope some of you found some humor in it. God bless and pray for the Overton family.
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Ryan Reynolds
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Karen Curran
Today this will be a story about my first camping trip. Like real camping, not glamping with the camper on wheels. So picture this. I am pretty much a girly girl. I do my hair every day, I do my makeup every day, I get my nails done, etc. You can kind of picture it. So my not husband at the time, who is my husband now says let's go camping. And it's going to be a four wheeler trip. So riding in the hills of Kentucky, like Appalachia, and I'm like, okay, sounds fun. And these are people that he primarily knows. But these are salt of the earth people. Give them a rock and some dandelions and they're going to turn it into an amazing meal. And you're going to be like, how did that just happen? These people are genuine, giving, loving, amazing individuals. I had never really experienced that. So we go, we pack a tent that my husband said is plenty big enough for me, him and his son, AKA our son. And I say great. We have a generator, we have these water carrying things that are like 30 gallons a piece. So we're Taking water with us, you know, the whole kitten caboodle. And we go and this is like late spring, early summer in Ohio, slash northern Kentucky. So therefore it can still be rainy the evenings, nights can still be cooler. Days are beautiful, warm, you know, so you kind of have to pack for two seasons, so to speak. So we leave, we meet up with our friends. The one group of friends whose family is from in this area that we are going is also known as the Flatwoods. We go down, they are towing a pop up camper. And it takes several minutes, several long minutes, delayed gravel road, etc. Traveling up to this area that we're going to camp at, that they call Schoolhouse Hill. There is no longer a schoolhouse there. But a lot of the locals, if you will, know this as an area that's cleared, kind of has an area where you can make a fire, etc. Now mind you, there had just been a light rain slash drizzle the entire day. So we are headed up. It's kind of starting to get dark by the time we get up to there at this point. It's a nice steady rain. Nothing intrusive, no like thunderstorm, just a steady rain. And so one of the individuals who is going to camp up there with us, his name, God rest his soul, is Alfred. And when you first hear Alfred talk, you feel like you need a translator. He just has a very thick southern drawl. And he says to us, I'mma get fire going. So we kind of look at each other and my husband says, he said he's going to get a fire going. And I look at my husband as like what? It's in this rain? Like everything's wet. So we go on, no worries. My husband and I proceed to set up this tent that he said he has. And we realize that maybe it wasn't put back according to plan or has sat longer than expected. It had holes. So with the rain we, the tent is, is out. We're not going to be able to camp, you know, in this tent. So luckily the people who pulled the pop up camper up to camp says, just come sleep in here tonight. So I'm like, oh, thank you. That is so very nice, really much appreciated. So we do. While we're in the process of moving things into the truck, slash pop up camper, we realized that indeed Alfred, with no gasoline, no fire starter except his own two hands and a match and wood, has indeed built a bonfire that would impress anyone, truly. And we were like, oh my God, we don't know how he did that. So from there on, any fire that we set that is a impressive fire, we refer to it as an Alfred fire. So fast forward, we get into the camper, it's becoming one of the longest night of our lives. But indeed it turned out to be the longest night of our lives. So we go on and we do what we can to get comfortable in this pop up camper and quickly, excuse me, realize that the camper must have had some, I don't know, rust holes or compromised areas because, you know, the big piece of styrofoam that is the actual quote, mattress, end quote of the pop out is now wet. So it wasn't very dry, it wasn't very warm, it wasn't very comfortable. It was just a long, long night. In the course of the night, however, Alfred's wife, Karen Curran, as it is said in those hills of Kentucky, proceeded to come into the camper and she starts rooting around like a raccoon. And we're like, what are you, what are you doing? And she goes, I'm hungry. So that was always a fun joke that we would say to her as well. And it was just an extraordinarily long night. Thank God we did have fire outside. And so dawn breaks. Thank God. I'm thinking this must have been a 16 hour night. It really wasn't, but it felt like it. And so we come out, we're all kind of rubbing our eyes and oh my gosh, talking about like the sun's peeking through, it's going to be a beautiful day. We're going to ride these four wheelers. And Alfred, you know, Mr. I'ma Make Fire, says that he is going to ride his four wheeler down the part of the mountain that you cannot take a vehicle, but you can take a four wheeler. And he's going to go down to the house and then he'll come back up in a little bit and he says, does anyone want to go? Anybody need anything? And I am like, yes, pick me, pick me. Please let me go. I want to take a shower. And my husband looks at me in complete amazement. Well, he wasn't my husband at the time, but you know what I mean. He looks at me with complete amazement, like you just met this man like eight hours before. And I was like, what? I'm like, I want a hot shower. He's offering me to go to the house and take a shower. He is a lovely individual. And I'm going. So I did. So I got my hot shower. We ended up having an amazing weekend of riding four wheelers through the Appalachian Mountains. And we met some beautiful, wonderful people who we still talk about today and we kept in touch with for many years up until we lost them. And it was just an amazing trip, but it was and will always be the longest night of my life. Hope you lifers enjoyed. Love all of you. Love to Woody, See Cindy and all of the Overtons and prayers and hugs.
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Cindy Overton
All right, so what did y'all think again? Aren't they great? I. I just love people sending in their their stories. Hearing people's voices I think is amazing. You know, this personalizes the connection so much more. When y'all see the names in social media now, you can actually hear their voices, which is amazing. Today we're switching it up. You're about to hear three crime stories. Two of them actually happened, one of them totally made up fabricated fiction. But it's your job to figure out which one is a lie. We're calling this the Lie Detector episode. And in tomorrow's episode, I will reveal which story is a lie. So grab your notebook, open the real Life Real crime app, and get ready because one story is a fake and that is the one that you are going to mark your answer in the app. So let's get started and see if you pass the test. Here is story one. In 2012, a woman named Darlene Bishop called 911 from her trailer park in Mena, Arkansas, claiming she found a human foot in her deep freezer. She said she had just bought the freezer off Facebook Marketplace from a neighbor named Frank who sold it to her for $50 claiming it was barely used. She didn't open it for three weeks, but when her own fridge went out, she went to transfer meat, only to find a vacuum sealed human foot inside. She guessed it was approximately size 10 and it actually had red toenails. Police traced the freezer to a missing woman named Carla Jean who hadn't been seen in six months. Turns out she'd been living with Frank and the two had fought violently days before her disappearance. Frank denied everything, claiming Carla ran off and left the freezer as a parting gift. He was arrested on suspicion of improper disposal of human remains, but due to lack of DNA confirmation at the time, charges were dropped. All right, that's story one. Story two, the exploding birthday cake. In 2018, a man in Baton Rouge was arrested after mailing his ex girlfriend a birthday cake filled with illegal fireworks. The cake was delivered to her workplace where co workers gathered to sing Happy Birthday. When the candle was lit, it triggered a small internal firecracker that exploded and burned part of the table. No one was seriously injured, but police traced the cake back to 37 year old Michael Dillard, who had previously been under a restraining order. He claimed it was a joke, saying he saw it on YouTube and didn't mean to scare anyone. The local DA charged him with domestic intimidation and use of explosives without a permit. All right, so that's story two. Story three, the ice cream truck sting. In 2009, the Tampa Police department launched an undercover sting using an ice cream truck. Officers outfitted the truck with hidden cameras and parked in a high drug traffic area, pretending to sell popsicles and bomb pops. But instead of frozen treats, they were handing out citations and gathering intel on a gang known as the Red Hats. Over the course of two weeks, the ice cream cops made 14 arrests, including one for attempted bribery when a man tried to pay for a snow cone with two grams of cocaine. One of the undercover officers later said the hardest part wasn't staying safe. It was keeping a straight face when someone tried to trade method for a fudgesicle. All right, so guys, it's your turn to decide which story is a lie. Is it story one, the foot in the freezer, story two, the exploding birthday cake, or story three, the ice cream truck sting. So tune in tomorrow and at the beginning of that episode, I will let you know which one is the lie. And tomorrow's episode is an oldie but goodie, and it is a sneak peek into what you can expect to hear about in the future on real life, real crime. I thank you for being the best lifers in the world. We couldn't do this without you. We feel all of your love and support. And please do not forget about JusticeForHailey. Ms. Barbara called me today with some really good news. I am waiting for Woody to share that news with y'all. So stay tuned for that. And do not forget about the live event coming up on July 19th. I'm super excited about that. If you do not want to hear commercials, we have subscriptions in the app and we have Apple subscriptions and we have Patreon. People email me almost every day asking which subscription service I recommend. And in my opinion, I recommend the app for obvious reasons. It is our own community app. So I truly recommend that. Now, if you want to do a subscription in the app, you do not have to go through the Apple subscription, which is 24.99amonth. You can go to the website, the web. It's the web version of the app. So the way you do that is just go. You download the app, you create your user ID and then you go to www.realliferealcrime.com. you sign in and then on the top of the screen you're going to see lifer levels. You click on lifer levels, you choose which lifer level you want and decide if you want to have auto renewal or not and or if you want to pay for a year. If you pay for a year, you get two months free. A little fun fact is you can actually also give this as a gift and at the top of the page it'll it offers a gift option. So that's a fun thing to do as well. If you don't know what to get someone when you sign up and you get a subscription, you will have access to everything that's been locked up for years and years and years. Bonus episodes, bonus content. We have playlists where you don't have to like if you are specifically looking for justice for Haley episodes. If it's a series, we most likely have a playlist for it. So like all of justice for Courtney is all put together in one playlist. All of Haley is put together in one playlist. So you can, you know, do that. You can create your own pet playlist too. Thank you so much for listening and stay tuned for the lie on tomorrow's episode.
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Unknown
You have the right to remain silent. Anything you say can and will be used against you in a court of law. You have a right to an attorney prosecution to it during any question that you can't afford one the quarter point one for you. Do you understand your rights?
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Woody
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Unknown
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