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Woody Overton (Real Life Real Crime Host)
Hey, y'. All.
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you slap your grandma. That's what my daddy used to say, y'. All.
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Real Life, Real Crime, the podcast. You have the right to remain silent.
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Anything you say can and will be used against you in a court of law. You have a right to an attorney prior to it during any question. If you can't Afford1, the quarter point one for you. Do you understand your rights?
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Your running's over, that's for sure. All about you cut you down. No matter about you. Now you Better walk alive.
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Woody Overton (Real Life Real Crime Host)
Warning this episode of Real Life Real Crime. The podcast may contain descriptions of acts of violence or that are of a sexual nature and should be for people that are 18 years or older. He my warning people, I do not get the facts of these cases off of the Internet or for some television show. The facts I'm retelling, you were presented to me by the victims of the crimes or the perpetrators who committed the crimes against the victims. My descriptions of the crime scenes, what I saw with my own two eyes. If you're going to get offended, please turn this podcast off now. Thank you.
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Hey, everybody, it's Woody Overton. You host a Real Life Real Crime, the podcast. And this is Holy Week. It is from me and my family.
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Right.
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I don't care who you pray to or who you don't. I have very strong beliefs in so much history that happened to me and my family personally during this week, over the years of my life. And so this week is also like third worst week of the year for podcasting. And nobody listens. Everybody's traveling. It's a long good Friday through Easter weekend, what have you. But we're going to go old school and play you unedited, raw from back in the day. Monsters, the series in part one through nine or whatever it is. You'll get a different one every day. And we love y' all and appreciate you. I mean, you're absolute best fans in the world. Patreon convicts, thank you so much, y'. All. What happened in Madison? Please continue calling your tips. I am going to be working on that case this week. I can't tell you what, but I have something that's going on with some people. That's the only thing I'm doing this week not working. We're taking it off. It's time to focus on your family, time to focus on your beliefs, and time to focus on the fact that I'm going to heaven and my beliefs. I'm going to heaven because Jesus died
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on the cross for my sins.
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But I love y'.
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All.
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Thank you for everything. And I'm Woody Overton, your host of Real Life, Real Crime, the podcast. Till next time or ever, don't let me catch you down on murder by you.
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Peace. Hello, everybody, and welcome to this episode of Real Life, Real Crime, the podcast. As always, I'm your host, Woody Overton. And today I'm going to beginning be beginning a new series called Monsters. But before I start, I got to give a shout out to all you lifers out there who voted for Us for Discovery Podcast Awards. Under Best True crime podcast of 2020, we took first runner up. We only lost a show called Criminal. And congratulations, Criminal. They've been around since 2014. They have millions and millions and millions of follow. They have a big production company, National Public Radio, and producers and studios and all that big stuff. And there's no shame in the game taking second place to criminals. So congratulations to them. But I gotta tell you something. It's huge. Lifers, huge, huge, huge. Little real Life, Real Crime, 18 months old, took second place, first runner up. And it at his. You know, we beat out some of the biggest and the best shows out there. And I just want to tell each and every one of y', all, thank you, thank you, thank you. You once again have put us on the map. Okay, then. Last year, when I wanted for best true crime podcast, not best true Crime, best podcast for drama and storytelling, that was a whole different rewards program than Discovery Pods. Discovery Pods has been around longer and this more prestigious, if you will. And they said the race was extremely close. So thank you. Huge, huge, huge deal to be Runner up for 2020 Best True Crime Podcast of the year. Thank you, each and every one of you who voted. It was a popular vote and y' all rocked it, and I appreciate it. Thank you, thank you, thank you. All right, warning. This series is probably going to be the hardest thing you've ever heard. Now, listen, all murders are horrible and tragic, and I'm certainly not. I don't. I don't put any more importance on one murder than another. But when I say horrible in this one, the overall story of what happened is unbelievable. But I have got to describe the crime scene. It's what I saw with my own two eyes. And I'm not going to tell you everything because it's just. That would be sensationalizing almost. But I have to tell you a certain amount of what I saw and. And I'm not. The reason I'm going to hold back on more than anything is because of this poor family. The vic, the victim's family, and God bless them, my heart goes out to him and. But this is a story that I've been holding on to, and it'll be in the sea in five more days. It will be 14 years ago that this. This murder, brutal murder, happened. So the name, it's got to be serious, y'. All. This is one of those. I told you, I warned you that we're. I'm going to get into some bigger cases and there will be no Woody Isms. There will be no jokes. You won't be laughing at anything in this, I promise you. But I'm telling you right now, turn the podcast off. Now. This, this first episode is going to be all of them will be tough in this series, but this is going to be. It's going to be hard. It's hard for me because I see it in my mind, but it's going to be hard for you to hear. I don't care how many true crime podcasts you've heard, because you've never heard one like this. I'm taking you inside the tape. I'm taking you in to see what I saw. So stay tuned at the end today's show for a lot of really cool announcements and I love and appreciate each and every one of y'. All. Thank you. Thank you. All right, monsters. On November 15, 2006, I was working as a detective with Livingston Parish Sheriff's Office. And it was the evening time. I had worked the day shift. I remember I was driving home, I was working some other case, pretty big case. I think it was a rape. And I had to stay afterwards for a little bit. Otherwise I used to get off around 4 o' clock and I would be home by, you know, 4:30 or 5. But I was, for some reason, I was at the office a little bit late. And as I got to my home and time, I lived in Watson, which is north of Denham Springs, the north west end of Livingston Parish, if you will, for those of y' all that are not from Livingston Parish. Anyway, I get a walk in the door of a house, literally, and I'm going to my bedroom to change clothes and my pager goes off and it said 1021 LP 200 ASAP. And that was Stan Carpenter, y'. All. By this time, he was the chief of detectives and Mr. Kearney had had retired out and Mr. Kearney Foster had retired out. So I call it. I used to, when I came in my bedroom, I used to hang my, my gun and my badge and all my police stuff in this one little chair where I got dressed in the corner of my bedroom. And I was just taking my stuff off, taking my towel. I had to wear a coat and tie every day. I was taking my towel off and had hung the coat and closet pager goes off 1021, which means give a phone call to Stan ASAP. And I called him, he said, he said, hey, Hoss, we got it. Got a body. And he says it's right up there in Watson. He told me the street and he Said I need you there now. And I stopped for a second and I think and I told him, I said I can be there in seven and a half minutes. And I hung up the phone and I threw my badge, my gun back on and I ran out the door. And let me tell you why that's important. The, my OCD brain works like that. I quantify things in like minutes. And like I could tell you from where I'm at now in the woods to my parents driveway, it takes me Approximately, just under 11 minutes to get from my chair to be at their house, right? So and my wife, I drive her crazy with. I'm always like, okay, so many minutes, right. So this come back up in story later on, but I told her I'd be there in seven and a half minutes, something like that. I remember saying seven. But anyway, so it's. My brain instantly goes in full force, body down made. Which meant when Stan said that it was a murder, right, and actually told me, he said, he said, he said we just got the call, the 911 call. And he said they called me. He said I don't even think uniform is there yet. Meaning uniform patrol. I said I could be there seven and a half minutes. I mean, because I knew where it was and it wasn't far from my house. So I run outside and I get in my unmarked big truck I had and I'm willing out, right? Rolling as hard as I can and it wasn't but a couple miles away. And so go up, I turn onto the street in the house that the 911 call came from. Sits kind of at the, I guess you would say at the end of street is it was set by itself. And I'm gonna tell you, as I'm pulling up, it's dark, There's a, like a street safety light, yard light, whatever you call it out, out on, on the street in front of the house and I could see a group of people and a blue and white had just pulled up. A uniform patrol had just pulled up. And I get out and I hear all this screaming and, and carrying on. I'm like hell, I don't know anything, right? I called on radio, said 259, 201 1097. It's such and such, right? And hold the net, meaning because I don't know what's going on, right? I don't know if there's. It's an active shooter situation. I don't know what the deal is. The radio room called me and, and said that you know what I'm not going to use names in this first episode, but said that the caller had called in and said they entered the residence and there was blood everywhere and there was a body down. So go up with the uniform guidance. And the family members are there and they're screaming and carrying on. And I said, Listen, who called 91 1? And the one lady, she was very, very physically and mentally shaken up. And she said, I called, she's sobbing and. But there was another lady that was being even more loud or loud and not belligerent but just screaming all this crazy stuff. And I'll get to that in a minute. But the. She said, I called, I called, I said, tell me what happened. She said, I got home and go in and I saw my mama down. There's blood everywhere. I said, okay, is there anybody else in the house? She said, I don't know. She said, I called 911 and then they told me to get out. I said, all right, just stay right here. And I told the deputy, I said, come on man, we gotta, we gotta clear it. I said, so I go to the front door. Okay, let me describe the house from the outside. It's an older home. Like a. Probably what you would think, like a 1970s, what I call a ranch style house. It was long, it's a big house, but it was long, single story. I think it was like wood, wood on the outside. And you're looking at this long and it's kind of dark out there, y', all, that had that street light. And I go to the front door, okay? And I get to the front door and I told him, I said to stand right here. I took my pistol out and I pushed the front door open. Now when I push the front door open, I'm looking immediately into a living room. Okay, now stick with me because everything I'm going to tell you is important. Everything, every single description I'm giving you out of my mind is important. Right in front of me, it's like some linoleum flooring. Right in front of me is a couch with the back facing towards me. At the end of the couch to the left was a chair. Not like a recliner, but kind of like an easy chair or something. And right in front of the couch was this long coffee table. And into the upper right into the couch was another chair. Into the right corner that I'm looking at over is a fireplace.
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And on the other side of the room, there were some windows, I guess looked out in the backyard or whatever. And to my immediate right, I didn't realize at the time, but to my immediate right was a gun cabinet. And by a gun cabinet, I mean a tall wooden one, y', all, with the glass, glass front. But I could see to the right down the linoleum pathway, if you will, into the kitchen. And there's a dining. Not. Not a formal dining room table, but like a kitchen table. And you could. There was some fluorescent light coming from the kitchen. That light was on, and you could. I could tell the. The kitchen went that way, right? And there was. There was a light on in the living room, but not a bright light. It was kind of like in a corner or something. And now I go in, the door opens, pushes in to my left, so I can't see to my left yet. And I'm describing everything I can see. Then I take another step in and I look to the left and I saw. Hell, I saw a long hallway that ran the whole length of the. Of the back side of the house. And it had that floor, I guess you call it linoleum. I don't know. It wasn't tile. It was like the older style flooring. And I was just calling linoleum. It was like a. A lighter white, maybe a yellowish pattern mixed into it. And the. I look down the hall and the hall starts immediately. I told you that last easy chair was in the corner. I'm looking at the couch, the coffee table, the chair. Then the hallway starts immediately to my left, not three steps from the doorway. And I look down and all I see is blood. In fact, is the largest amount of blood I've ever seen on any crime scene that I've ever been to ever in. The blood had flowed down the hallway towards where I was standing. Now stick with me. As soon as I saw the blood, I followed it with my eyes down, down the hall, in about halfway down the hallway. But first of all, as you're going down the hallway, there was a door to the right, which I would find out later was a, like a, a bathroom. Then you go a little bit further down the hallway and through the blood. And I'm talking about, well, y', all, when I say a blood, it was a lake of blood. The most blood I've ever seen. Looking down and I see a victim, I see a human being down halfway in and halfway out of a doorway to the left hand side. I'm also noticing in this lake of blood, if you will, footprints in shoe tracks and in. But I know right away that the victim is dead. I could tell you without having to get near them that they were dead because there's no way a person could bleed this much and still be alive. But I had to proceed, right. And by this time Calvin Ballad had got there. Detective Calvin Bowen. And I think he's a lieutenant or something with the sheriff's office. Now. He's also a, he's a polygraphist and actually sits on the state board. Calvin's a super smart guy. We were partners at the time. Super, super smart and, and very good investigator, very good detective. And, and I said, Calvin, I said, come here and look. And he looked around, he's like, damn. I said, we, you know, got to go battle mess with crime scene is obviously dead. We got to make sure there's nobody else in the back of the house. And he said, well, you go down the hall. He said, I'll, I'll cover them here and then we'll go towards the kitchen and clear it. I said, all right. So I went down and I walked as close as I could to the, to the right hand side of the wall. When I'm doing that, I happen to look into the, that first door I told you about on the right. It's a, it's a bathroom sink, toilet, and I think it's, you know, a shower tub combo. But I look in the sink as I'm going down. I mean, I have my pistol. I don't think there's anybody else. But you got to do it for officer safety. But you have to, you're not going to walk past the door without clearing it. So I'm looking in. I push the door open, my foot the rest of the way. Meanwhile, my pistol still pointed down the hallway and I look in and I see of like a, like a 15 pound bag of ice in the, the sink and the, the bowl of the sink itself. Now it's somewhat melted, but there was still a lot of ice. It was a big bag, wasn't like one of the small bags you get convenience stores. Like one of the big bags, I think at least £15. And I'm looking in, no light on. And in the bathroom, and I'm looking in, but the sink's right there. And I see this bag of lights on. I'm like, what the fuck in. But I could see blood. And now what I'm looking at there on this bag of ice and in the bathroom are what I call fat drops of blood. And. Meaning, y'. All. Meaning, like my buddy Aaron Goolsbee and I were hunting a couple weeks ago, and. And he came and he cut his hand on a stand and it was dripping blood, right? Like drop. And falling down big, what I call fat drops. And. And splatting. Like the blood fallen and hidden and splattering on the concrete, making almost a. A perfectly round fat drop. And then, of course, you haven't got a little bit of splatter where it makes the contact, but there's that kind of blood drops going into this bathroom and on this bag of ice and. But not a lot of blood, but. But some. And I'm like, you know, kind of tripped me out, right? The. But I'm. I'm processing. I'm still going. Bathrooms, obviously, is clear. I go down. Now, I'm really trying not to step in all this blood, but you can't avoid it. There's just no way. It's too much. And when I. I get to where the body is, I'll tell you what, my initial. Initially, what I saw. I get to the. Where the body is because I can't walk past she. That she's laying halfway in or say a quarter in and three quarters out of this doorway. And I observe a really elderly female laying face down in the blood. I observe that she's in. I guess you would call it a nightgown or a house gown. But the. The gown was pushed up around her waist and her panties were pulled down. I'm looking up, looking around. There's blood splatter everywhere. But I look into that bedroom, there's blood splatter all over the walls, the roof, all in the hallway. And I see some broken items, etc. And I'll come back to that. That room's clear. Okay. And I'm gonna come back to the scene in a minute. I have to finish clearing the house. And I go down, I stick it. I'm trying. I can't touch the wall either, y', all, because where she's laying face down, there's blood splatter. Now, high velocity blood splatter. And I'm gonna tell you about that. The. Okay, let's say, let's say you get hit. Let's say you get shot where when the bullet first enters you and it tears your skin and it makes the penetration into your body, it's going to push blood out behind it. It's just this best way I can describe it, it's going to push blood out behind it. The first blood that comes out from behind your skin, once the skin is broken and the bullet enters, the first blood that comes out is going to be moving at a slower rate than the rest of the blood that comes out. Like, let's say the bullet passes through the, the first blood that comes out because it had the resistance from the skin. And the bullet is going to come out slower, exit the wound slower than the rest of the blood. After the bullet passes through, it's coming out a lot faster. So what happens is that slower blood is coming out, bullet passes through the rest of the blood that starts shooting out, catches up with the first blood and hits it and makes it splatter, makes it almost like it explodes. And that's where you get blood splatter from. Okay, so the, the blood splatter is from the faster blood hitting the slower blood and it splatters. And then in this case, it was all the wall on the roof. But here's the problem with that. There was a whole bunch of different blood splatter. And I mean, a shit ton, the most I ever saw. But, okay, so I can't touch the wall and I'm trying not to disturb what is obviously a crime scene. And I walk down, I get to the end of the hall, look to the door to the left, clear. But I'm, I'm now seeing, okay, the big, the big lake of blood, if you will. Most of it had drained towards the front door. Now there were some around the body, some going back towards the back bedrooms, but not as much as it was on the other side going towards the front door. So I'm going three. Now what I see to my right is the master bedroom. I find out later on it's master bedroom and it's, it's a pretty big bedroom. And so I have to go in. When I'm going in, guess what I see? I see some more what I call fat drops of blood on the, on the carpet. And going into the bathroom, not high velocity blood splatter, droplets of blood and follow it away. It's important. So I clear the bedroom, but there's a bathroom inside the bedroom. And I Pushed the door open. The light was off. I turned a light on, and I could see the blood droplets. And there were blood droplets, fat droplets, not splatter in the sink. I'm like, okay, we're clear back here. I gotta get out. So I had to retrace my steps. I tried to step in exactly the same spots going back out. Oh, actually, the first. When I first reached the victim, I did check for a pulse, and I didn't think there was going to be one, but I did check for a pulse, and. And I actually checked on one of her arms at the wrist area, and then there's nothing. She's actually. The body was cold, and the blood was somewhat congealed. Y', all meaning it had thickened. Now, as your heart pumps blood through your body, it keeps, you know, your body temperature, keeps it warm, it keeps it thinned out, it keeps it moving. When you. When you die, whether it's your blood settling to the lowest point of your body, which is lividity, or you have puncture wounds, and your blood drains out, that blood will. For lack of a better word, it hardens. As time goes on, it congeals, it thickens, and. And it's no longer being pumped through the body. Right. So this blood is. Is. Is. I mean, it's not like a day old, but it's obviously. It's hours and hours old to me, through my experience. So I back. Back out back to the door where Calvin was, and. And I shut the door, and he said, we're clear. Going into the kitchen, he said, I saw a couple of drops of blood. I said, fat drops. He said, yeah. And I told him what I saw, and I said, she's dead. And. And I said, I checked. No pulse. I said, you know, obviously blood everywhere. I said, calvin, I said, there is blood splatter like I've never seen before on the roof, on the walls in, which means. Translates into a horrifically violent crime. And I said, we got to set up a perimeter. I said, stan ought to be here in a few minutes, and we'll give. And Stan actually did show up. And so he came in and we told him what we had. And. And I forget what other detectives showed up, but we called in one of the uniform guys and told him. I said, you need to stand at this door. Nobody gets in, nobody gets out without you writing down their name and the time and who. Who they are and what is the reason for entering. Now, that's important, y', all, for a crime scene like this, where you already have Foot tracks in the blood. And certainly the. A defense attorney would try to say, you know, they can come up with all these different plausible theories, especially if we let in any looky lose or whatever. Looky, looky lose what? I mean, let's say the sheriff wants to show up, show up, and he wants to come in and just look in and see. I'd be like, nope, sorry, that's it. This is my crime scene now. Nobody gets in. And basically, that's what I told the deputy. I said, but if. If I tell you they can come in, you write down their name, their time, the time they came in, the time they left, etc. I said, because we're end up having to get DNA from everybody on this crime scene, the to exclude, etc. Right? So we get the uniform guys to go out. I said, I want it all. You got to push those people back and back them up as far as you can. I want crime scene tape around this whole damn yard because we don't know. I don't know if there's. There's a weapon line in the bushes. I mean, this has got to be worked, but it's got to be worked.
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with the utmost care and professionalism that I've ever worked anything. And I'm gonna tell you why in a second. So we agree. First of all, cold the radio room. I said, call the Louisiana State Police crime lab and get their technicians in route. I said, you can call off Acadian ambulance. The this victim's deceased now. I didn't call this over the radio, y'.
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I called on. On my cell phone. I said, 1022 Acadian, which means call them off. We don't need them to come run a strip. There's no way this lady's been alive and forever in hours and hours anyway. Call Louisiana State Police crime lab and get them in route now, y', all, when you cry out, call the crime lab. The most parishes, and it's not like you see on tv, most parishes in the state of Louisiana do not have their own crime lab. They have to use the Louisiana State Police on major cases, and Livingston was no exception. We did what we could, but on a major case like this, you want. You need blood splatter experts, you need DNA experts, you might need a firearms expert. You don't know that yet or whatever. But we let them come. They're highly trained, professional crime scene technicians. Come and work. The problem with that is it's now six, seven o' clock at night. They're all going home. They go home at 4 o', clock, right in. But they're on call. And they have units, their crime scene units that they drive to and from work every day, especially when they're on call. So they had to page them out, tell them what we have, and they got to come from wherever shit, they might live, and they might live two hours away, they might live 30 minutes away. You just never know, right? So we had to get them started. And I told him, I said, call the corner. And I said, but tell them, don't get in a rush because we're not gonna touch the body until after we work the crime scene after it's properly worked. And so got all that rolling, right? And then I told Stan, I said, listen, I talked to the. The lady that called it in briefly on my way in. I said, she came in here. Her. She. Her footprints are going to be in this blood. We need to get her shoes. And. And I said, actually, we need to interview him. I said, listen, I don't know what family members were what, out there. And then by now, y'. All more family members were. Were arriving. I said, I don't know who it was out there, but there was one lady that was being a little bit off. And. And I said, we need to separate them and we need to interview him. I said, but first we got to start with the lady who called in. He said, hey, hoss, you're. You're seen. You know what you're doing. You work it. I'm here to support you. I said, all right. And so I got with Calvin. I said, calvin, you need to go get this lady, get her in the vehicle. I need to get her a statement from her as to what happened. So we did that. We go out there now. A bunch of people showed up in and I told uniform guys and we had a couple more uniform guys show up. I said, no, you gotta. You gotta push them back further. You know, don't move any vehicles when they were already here. When we got here, like the lady who called 91 1. I said, we get the rest of these people down the street a little bit. As far as I'm concerned, this whole neighborhood practically is a crime scene, so I can prove otherwise. They backed it up more with the crime scene tape. And Calvin. I approached the lady, and she sobbing uncontrollably. And I said, ma', am. I said, you know, you told me you're the one that called in that one. She said, yes, yes, yes, I did. And she said, that's my mama. That's my mama. I said, okay, sweetie. I said, look, I. I need you to come sit with us and talk to us. This Detective Calvin ballad on Detective William. I said, I need you to come sit with us in the vehicle and so we can talk to you and try to find out exactly what happened to your mama. I said, we have to work the case. And she's crying, you know, pretty much uncontrollably. And take her and put her in my big truck. And I put her in the front seat with me and Calvin sitting behind her. And I said, let's introduce herself again. I said, what's your name? And she told me, she's right. Was so young. And it breaks my heart to this day, she's just. Just all crying and just freaked, right? I said, listen, sweetie. I said, and she kept crying. My mama. Mama. I said, listen. And if you don't already know, I'm gonna go ahead and tell you. Your mama, she's no longer with us, okay? And it's obvious that she's been a victim of a homicide. And then she starts crying, and she said, I know, I know. I saw the bloody. I saw the blood. I said, listen. I said, just stay with me. I said, what's important now and what you can do for your mama now is help us. I said, we don't know anything. We have got to start working this case. And every minute that goes by is a minute that we don't have to lose. And she's like. She's kind of rocking back and forth, crying. I said, and then I put my arm around her. I said, do you understand? She said, yeah, yes, I understand. I understand. And listen, y', all, this would ultimately end up being one of the strongest ladies I've ever met. One of the strongest ladies that I've ever met. And just a really great woman, and. But we'll get to that in the future. So I said, listen. I asked her name. She told me. I said, where do you live? She said, I live here. And she said. I said, who you live with? She said, my husband and my Mama. And she's back to crying and mama. But we got her calm down enough. And Calvin was talking to her some t. And we'd done. This wasn't our first radio working on homicide together, but the. And I said, can you tell me your mama's name? And she did. And I said, how old is she? She said, She's 82 years old. She said, I don't know. I mean, she's crying, y', all, when she's telling me this. She said, I don't know who would want to hurt my mama. All she's done her entire life is take care of other people. She said she raised orphans her entire life. She took in kids that didn't have parents and raised them, and that's okay. And she said she was the best. She said she was on a walker. She had to walk with a walker. She couldn't even get around. She said, why does they have to do that to her? Now, listen. She certainly was no crime scene expert, but I haven't told you everything that I saw yet. And she saw it in the is obvious it was a brutal, brutal murder, and she's just going on about it. I said, just stay with me, sweetie. I said, now, your mama and you and your husband live here. I said, tell me exactly what happened. She said, I got home and I walked in the front door, and I hollered for my mom. She said, my husband wasn't home, and he's usually home before me. And I holler for my mom. And she said, I shut the door, and I looked down the hallway, and I saw all the blood, and I saw my mom, and I ran up, and I knew. I knew when I saw her. And she said, I freaked out, and I ran back out, And I called 911, and they told me, don't go back in. That's when you got here. I said, okay. I said, listen. I said, one of the things we have got to do because we got to work. This is an obvious crime scene. We've got to get your shoes from you because you did run through the blood, and. And we've got to take this evidence. I said, I'll get you whatever pair of shoes you want out of your house in a few minutes after we get done talk. She said, that's fine. Whatever I need to do. Whatever I need to do. I said, so your mama is 82 years old? She said, yes, yes. And all she's ever done in her entire life is dedicated her life to other people, helping, you know, raise children and I don't know why somebody would do this to her. I can't fathom it. I can't believe it. Everybody loves her so much. She's such a great person. And I said, I know. I know. You know, And. And I said, so your husband, what's his name? She told me. And I said, and where's he at? She said, I don't know. She said, I tried to call him. He didn't answer. I said, okay. And you have lived here. You married, how long? Just routine questions going through questions, trying to build up stuff. And then I said, what else? Who else did you call after you got here? She saw. She said, I called my daughters. I said, they're out here in the crowd? She said, yeah, they were. One of them was here when you pulled up. The other one got here. Since you've gone inside the house. Okay, give me their names. And she did. And I said, let's. The. Your husband, you know his name and date of birth, and. And I said, where. He always gets home before you? I said, why? Why do you think he's not here? She said, I don't know. She said, he should have been home an hour before me, probably. And she said he worked with such and such with some of his family. It was a. A. You call it a specialty lumber company, I guess. And she said, but he's not here. And I said, can you give me his phone number? So she did. And. And I said, I'm gonna try to call him real quick so he can be here with you. I called, and it went straight to his voicemail. She said, that's. I don't understand that. She said, he. He. He always answers his phone. Well, Calvin, you know what Cal and I were thinking, right? Where's the husband? And that's number one. And. We just got more questions from. And she said. I asked her about her husband. She said, he's. He's a Christian man. She said, he's a reformed. Many, many years ago, reform drug addict, and. But he's a Christian, he's got a great job. And, you know, we've been married. And. And, you know, I know he loves me, and he loves my mama, and, you know, he loves my kids. And I said, well, how old are your kids? And the. The daughter she was talking about? And y', all, they were adults, right? One of them, I think, was like 39. The other one was, I don't know, maybe mid. Mid to late 20s, maybe early 30s. But. And she told me, and, you know, we just got all the information we could from her. And then. And I told her, I said, listen, I'm gonna let you get with your family. And actually, I think Calvin went back in, and she. She had some slippers or something in the washroom. We did take her shoes and. And bag them. But y', all, when you take bloody evidence, you always bag it in a brown paper bag. You never seal blood evidence in a plastic container because it'll meldy. It'll rot. And. And the. The pores and the paper bags allows it to breathe. So took her shoes, did that, got her. Got her back with families, Will. And. And I told Calvin, I said, we got to interview the daughters real quick. Now, meanwhile, well, look, we're still waiting on. On the crime lab to get there. I said, we need to interview these daughters and we need to find out where this cat's at, meaning the husband. He said, hell yeah, you're right. But. But then the crime lab pulls up, and the coroner had got there. He'd come up and knocked on the window when we were talking to the victim's daughter. And I just waved him off. And. And then we got out and I told the coroner, I said, you might as well just, you know, you could. You can go home and eat supper because it's going to be a while. I mean. He says, that bad, I see. Yes, that bad. So the crime lab gets there, two technicians. And I told him what the deal was. I said, it's. It's a massive crime scene. I said, there's blood from one in the house to the other. The. The. The deceased is about halfway down the house. So she's 82 years old. Could possibly. Or it's mates look like a rape. And I said, but the trauma. I said, it's the worst I've ever seen. And I've worked with these technicians before, right? They only had so many of them that were on call. And over the years, I'd worked a major homicide with every one of them. And you develop a bond with them this long before I went, well, this is a year or so far, I went to the state police as a criminal investigator, but I already knew. So we work cases together. And when you work those cases, the big cases that ultimately they end up going to trial, you end up being sequestered together during the trial and all that, so you really get to know them. And. But I knew, hey, let me tell you something there. I put Louisiana State police crime lab technicians up against any in the world. They're that good. So they get their plan on how they're going to start work. And then they got massive bags to carry up everything from DNA swabs, blood clamp, blood collection materials, mounds of paper bags for impossible evidence, evidence markers.
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It's a lot of stuff. So they get their stuff. We make entry into the living room and get ready to start processing the crime scene. And. And. But they walked in. Now, these are hardened veterans. They walked in and looked down the hall, and one of them, I'm never forgetting, he said. He said, holy, man. He said, she. She must have bled to death, right? I said. I said, well, I don't know. I mean, it certainly looks that way with the amount of blood. He said, that's the most blood I've ever seen, ever. I said, I get that. And he said, I guarantee you she bled to death. I said, well, you certainly would think so. And there's one more thing I forgot to tell y'. All. When I first walked in, I smelled burning, like freshly burnt paper. Okay. Or something had been freshly burned. And when we're getting there, they're setting up their stuff inside the door. The. I ended up. The fireplace was right there. I walked over and I looked in the fireplace, and there was a condom wrapper that was partially burned in the fireplace. But anyway, I think I'm stop it here for this week. If you know this case and you're from LP and you think you know this case, you don't know it. The. The. The things that I'm going to tell you have never been released. And it's a horrible, horrible case. My. My heart goes out to the family. But I hope. And telling this, when. When I all it's all said and done, maybe somebody out there will be able to stop this from happening to their family member. So that's. It's just too much going, y', all. And, And. And I'm gonna stop it for today. Next week. I'm gonna start with us working the crime scene, and I'm gonna do a couple announcements. Now, the justice for Courtney Coco, as always, y'. All. I truly believe you heard the episode last week, special prosecutors on it. I truly believe they're going to be making the arrest any day now. So that. That is what it is. Ms. Barbara Blunt's case. Let me tell you something. The difference between Courtney Coco's case and Ms. Barbara Blunt's case is Ms. Barbara Blunt's case was worked correctly from the beginning. Courtney Cocos was a shit show for the 15 years before I got to it. Okay. Nothing other than the police work out of Texas by Detective Ravella had been done correctly. So the difference is when Sheriff Art asked me to help with real life, real crime and our listeners is when I went in and reviewed their case files and all that stuff and. And delved off into it deep. There's nothing I would have done differently, but it was like there was a perfect storm blocking her case and stopped them. But they never stopped working. Unlike rapids and Alexandra PD that lied to Ms. Stephanie on Courtney's case, these guys have never stopped working it and they want justice for Ms. Barbara. So when you message me and there have been a couple, you know, we're always going to have a couple of haters, and they say, oh, you're not doing anything. Da, da, da. That's just simply not true. Working on Ms. Barber's case, still taking tips. And I want you to call in your tips. They're still taking tips all the time, but you have no idea what we're doing on Ms. Barbara's case, so. But tips are important. As always, I tell you, and sharing episodes and sharing Ms. Barber's story. As always, I tell you, sharing equals tips. Tips lead to arrest. Okay, difference again between Courtney, Coco, Ms. Barbara Blunt's case is even when I'm not talking about Ms. Barbara Blunt's case, you have some of the finest law enforcement professionals in the world that are working Barbara Blunt's case, even though it doesn't look like it. Once again, we get started on Ms. Barbara Blunt's case and what happens, Covid. And then, unfortunately, the sheriff has to reallocate the people he had allocated for Ms. Barber's case to go work. Covid, There's a lot of things you'll never understand that he's having to deal with, like extra personnel in jail and all the stuff they have to do. Now, I'm talking about people that don't have anything to do with jail have to go help work in a jail because they have to wear safety stuff and dealing with people and booking them in and keeping things. I mean, this. Your sheriff's office is dealing with a ton of stuff, but it doesn't mean they've stopped working cases. Okay, but some things have to move a little bit slower. But that being said, I've been telling you that Toby, Tom Player, executive producer, and I are going to be starting a new cold case podcast. And I'm going to tell you, listen at then when I close this today, the name of the podcast and we've never released before, the name of the podcast is don't call it A cold case. So stay and listen for when I sign off. Listen for an excerpt from that. We're going to do a pre release of the first episode, just a drop in the middle of next week so you can hear what it's about. Totally different than what we've been doing. But I'm going to tell you this. The first case and we've been working on, Toby has been killing himself. And we've been working on it for months and months and months. The first case is going to be Ms. Barbara Blunt. And that's right. We're going to work it through real life, real crime. And we're going to work Ms. Barbara Blunt's case until we solve it. And three, don't call it a cold case. And Patreon members, as always, thank you for your support. I appreciate you. I'm sorry I couldn't do the live video this week because I'm in a spot where I don't have the Internet service, but I'm trying to correct that. But you, you did get this episode commercial free and unedited a day earlier than everybody else. You will be getting your November Patron bonus full episode the week of Thanksgiving when I'm not releasing anything to anybody else, the Wednesday before Thanksgiving. So that's coming. And finally, LOPA, Louisiana Oregon Procurement Agency Be a Hero. Go to lopa.org and sign up. Takes a couple minutes. Be an organ donor. Okay. Covid is destroying all these people's lungs. All these people having to get lungs transplants that would literally die if they didn't get them. And every one of them that gets a lung transplant is because somebody signed up as an organ donor. Okay? But that is so much more than lungs. And we're going to be doing some LOPE episodes in the future. But y', all, it's so important. People are dying and when you die, you're not going to care. And signing up to be an organ
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It just means that if you are fit the criteria when you are deceased, they'll, they'll take it. Be a hero. Go to lopa.org sign up and when it ask how you you heard about them, there's a section for LP TC as livers, Parish Literacy and lpltc. I forget what it's Livingston Parish Literacy and Technology Center, Criminal justice students. Check that box first, y'. All. They're how I got involved. And in Crystal Horace and Southeastern Ms. Kim Alvin, the principal there at the school, and certainly Kelly Jennings. Those students there are trying. They're making it their mission to get people sign up to be an organ owner. Please go do it. It's hugely important. And if it was your one of your family members that's dying and needed an organ, you would be praying that people would sign up to be an organ donor. So be a hero. Give the gift of life. Give the gift of sight. Go sign up. And there also is a spot for real life, real crime. But if you want to check that, after you check Livingston Parish Literacy Technology center criminal justice students. Lopez put us on their website and I think that's pretty cool. But it's our mission. My mission, Woody Overton's mission to get as many people to sign up and support that agency. It's a non profit agency, y'. All and, and just go support them, please. And I'll get off my soapbox on that. Going to be continuing monster week Monsters the series week after week after week until it's concluded. You gotta stay tuned. You won't be sorry.
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