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beat her in the head and the, The. The glass broke and, and you left the room or, and then he grabbed the Coke bottle or whatever. I said, I'm not gonna put words in your mouth. I've said, but I'm not gonna sit here, make it like pulling teeth either. I understand. Self preservation. You're already on my good side because you now have told me the truth, which is you went over there to. And do dope and she called y' all because you were and doing dope and you didn't hear. I said, now you're down the hallway. And what happened? She said, he started to beat her. He started to beat her and I tried to stop him and. And that's how I got my hand cut. I tried to stop him and she said, but I couldn't stop him. And he was beating her in the head and he was just beating her and beating her. I said, okay. And. And she said, and. And really, I. I did. I did leave the room. I said, okay, and, and what'd you do? She said, I went back to. To the living room and he came down the hall and he said, she's dead. And then we heard a noise and he went back down the hall and he came back down and said, that is still alive. And he went and got the rifle and he went back down the hall and he had the wrong bullets or something for the gun, wouldn't fire. And he came back and he got the right bullets and he went back and he shot her in the head. Bingo. Again, y', all in my mind's eye. How do you know he shot her in the head unless she still distanced herself. But take that shit to trial. Okay? She's now explained why her blood is in the crime scene. Because she's saying she tried to stop him and cut her hand, you know, during that altercation when her grandmother was being beaten. Well, you know what? Only three people know, and one of them was dead. Okay? And we certainly can't get it from the victim. So she. She had almost Six months to come up with her story, praying that she would never see us show up on her doorstep again. And. But the totality of the circumstances, she's just as guilty as he is. Whether she did the beaten or didn't do the beating, she was there. She didn't stop it. She didn't call 911 hell, but she might have been the shooter, as far as we know, other than he confessed to it. Right. That. So you don't have to get everything exactly correct, but we're getting enough to put her there when her grandmother was murdered. And then, like I said, take that to trial because we'll let a jury decide your level of guilt. So she said that he shot her in the head. And I said, how do you know he shot her in the head if you were in the living room? And she said, oh, I just assumed he shot her in the head. I said, okay, I'm leaving. I'm leaving it that I'm not. I'm not going to press her on anymore, right? And I said, well, if you're down there and the beatings going on and there's certainly going to be a lot of blood and you're trying to stop him, you cut yourself. And I said, what'd you do? I said, obviously, you're going to have blood on you, and he's going to have blood on him. I said, what happened? She said, we came back out and he started loading up the guns in the car, in the truck in. And cleaning stuff up. I said, okay. I said, what about the fireplace? So, yeah, yeah, yeah. He. He burned the condom in the fireplace. He said he was going to make it look like a rape so y' all wouldn't figure it out. I said, all right. I said, where did you go to clean up? She said, what do you mean? I said, where'd you go to clean up? She said, oh, I don't know. I don't remember. I said, okay, it. I'm leaving that. I'm not gonna keep press on. I'm. I said, but do you cleaned up there? And she said, yeah, I think so. I don't remember. Well, guess what? She's not telling me everything. In my mind's eye, she took part of the beating until the vase broke. And then she cuts her hand and she runs to the master bathroom, cleans herself up, bandages or whatever, and then tries to clean that area up. Right? Can't prove it. It's just what I'm thinking. But back to it. She said, he loads up and he gets stressed and they leave and he brings her home. And that's okay. Why did you lie? I said, why didn't you stop it? And she said, I don't know how. I freaked out. I freaked out. I said, all right, you freaked out. I said, what happened between the time you got home and the time you got the call that something happened to your grandmother? She said, nothing happened. I just sat at home. I was by myself till my kids got home. I said, all right. I said, all this time? I said, you said you didn't see him shoot her in the back of the head. You're assuming that. She said, yeah, yeah, yeah. I said, but she might have been alive. He said, no. She said, ain't no way she was alive again, y'. All. She knows that. I believe she knows that because she saw the mess, right? And remember, she told her brother, they beat her in the head, right? And. And I'm trying to remember. She. What I was doing was locking her into. Why in the didn't you ever call 91 1? Why in the didn't you ever have remorse to later on after your adrenaline's calmed down? I didn't ask her directly, but this is what I'm getting at, building it for the jury. After your adrenaline's calm down, you're safe inside your own house. This asshole is gone. You could lock the door. You could call 9 1. You know what? I was in the wrong place at the wrong time, but it's my grandmother, police and somebody to check on her. She didn't do it. She didn't do any of it, right? And so she said, yeah, yeah, I got the call. And I went back over the night. I said, and that's when you were saying it was. She called him the N word, Drug dealers. Over and over and over again. I said, why didn't you just come out? Then? I said, we had you in my truck. We interviewed you. You could have just said, hey, Woody, you know what? Fuck it. I was here, and he's the one that did it. And I was scared at the time. And, you know, she said, oh, I don't know. But, you know, I don't know. I was scared, and I didn't want my mama to find out I was over here. And we were fooling around. Okay, whatever. To me, y' all monster. And all this time goes by, she never. I mean, she lied, you know? And I said, and then you lied to us. Every time we talk to you, lied to us over and over again. I said, you think we're some dumb Hick detectives. We weren't going to do our job and find it out. She said, no, no, I don't think that. She said, I just was hoping it would go away. I said, yeah, I bet you were. You know, and then I said, well, listen, give me a minute, and I'm gonna get you some more water. So I'm not gonna call somebody to come sit with you. I said, we got cameras on you, which we didn't. We didn't have in. We didn't have to record with back then. I said, you just sit there. We went right outside my door in the hallway, the stairway. And Calvin and I were like, yes. You know, And I said, listen, we gotta get her husband up here. It's one thing she confesses to us, you know, she's going to try to recant on it later. We get her husband up here. I said, what about getting her family up here? Her mom? And I'm letting him tell me. He said, hell yeah. Hell yeah. He said, I'll go get the information. We'll get somebody to go by and pick her husband up from work. I said, and get the family started. And he said, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And I said, get them up here. We'll let the husband go first, and then we'll see if she. She tells her mom and anything. So we sent. I don't remember who went y' all in. In to the guy's work, her husband's work, and brought him back up there. We let her, you know, gave her some water or whatever and went back in and. And just talked to her a little bit more. I said, you know, the week he was on the run, did you contact him? She said, no call a couple times and. And left, you know, ugly voicemails or where you at? Voicemails and stuff like that. She said, but I didn't, you know, I knew he wasn't gonna answer the phone. I'm getting more on him. I said, what was his demeanor like afterwards? And she said, cold. She said he wasn't worried about it. And I did ask her. I asked her about the ice bag. And she said, yeah, he'd. He would do that every time he would get high in case he overdosed, he would use the ice to bring him back down. Boom. Backs it up, right? The also puts her in the crime scene. And. And I said, so when. Where was that ice bag? She says, in the hallway bathroom. What else? I said, the. I asked her about the. The mud room. She said, yeah, he broke the light loading guns in the truck. Boom. Puts her, you know, puts her there. I mean, the, the condom puts her there. All that puts her there, right? The, The. I'm thinking about what she's going to do in it. And when she goes to line, right, she's going to have all this time for appeals, whether she gets the death penalty or she gets life in prison. She's going to have all these times come up with these appeals. So I'm trying to get her to talk about everything that later on she's going to come back. I want to recant. And I asked about the sexual relationship. Calvin was with me. I asked about the sexual relationship, and she said, yeah, I mean, it's strictly. That's basically what it was. He gave her dope, she gave him sex. And the. And I asked her, I said, look, when he was on the run, he went to Walmart and he bought women's panties. And before I could even finish. So, yeah, yeah, yes. She says, cross dresser. She said, every time we were together, he had on woman's underwear. I said, so that day. She said, absolutely. That was his thing. He wouldn't even begin to have sex unless he had on panties and a bra. And I'm thinking, holy shit in my mind's eye, right? I'm thinking, holy this. I mean, he. I believe that he did pull the trigger, that he executed her. But me, he did it in women's underwear. And. And so anyway, that's when I asked her about him cleaning up. She said he had a change of clothes because he had. Had the woman's underwear and that he cleaned up and. And put the shit in the truck. That goes back and fits with what his confession was. So time goes by, we're picking our brain on the little things. And the. You know what? She never asked. She never asked where her blood was in the crime scene, not one time. And she just assumed it was in the hallway with everything, all the rest of the blood, which I'm sure it was. But the husband shows up and they call me and say, hey, her husband's here. So Calvin, I go up to him and leave her in the room. And I said, listen, your wife is under arrest for the murder of her grandmother. And she wants to talk to you. And he was like, what? And, yeah, she wants to talk to you. I said, this is not normally something that we do, but we're gonna let you talk to her. And I said, but I'm going to be in the room, or we're going to be in the room with you. Just ignore us. I said, we're gonna be in the room actually for your safety and her safety and I don't want you killing her or vice versa. He said, no, man, no, no, no. I mean, the guy was just white in the face. He was totally in shock. Good guy, hard working guy, great dad. And I would find out all this later on. Great father to his kids. And I felt sorry for this guy, right? And so we let him in and I told him, you know, I'm standing in, My office was small, but the, the four of us were in there. I said, listen, she has something she wants to say to you. And I said, I told her, I said, just go ahead and tell him and tell him the truth, you know. I said, it's not going to, there's no way to sugarcoat it. Just tell him the truth. And she, she tried to reach out for his hand and she said, baby, baby. She said, you know, I love you so much and started crying again. You know, I love much, I love you more than anything in the world. I love our family and da, da, da, da, da. He said, tell me why I'm here. And, and she said, well. She said, well, I, I was there when grandmother got killed. He said, what do you mean you were there? She said, I was there with him talking about her stepdad. And he said, what were you doing with him in that house? And she said, she hung her head and she said, I was doing dope. He said, and she said, we've been fooling around. And he just, he just shook his head and she said, but he, he killed her. I didn't kill her. He killed her. And she said, but I was there, I was there. And he's just shaking his head. And I thought the guy was going to throw up. And, and I felt so bad for him. And he was like, you were there. Having sex with him and doing drugs when he killed your grandmother. She said, but I didn't kill her. I didn't kill her. And she said, and she said, yes. And he was like, I don't know what to say. I just don't know what to say. She said, promise me you'll take care of our babies. Just promise me you'll take care of her babies. At this point, I almost felt human for her. And she's pleading with him and he said, I'm not ever not going to be a father to her children, no matter what you've done. He said, I'm going to take care of the babies. You don't have to worry about that. And she was like, but I love you. I love you, I love you. And he said, I got to go. And he left and walked him out. Boom. That's, you know, another witness for trial. She told him she was there, even though she's taking the self defense or not self defense. The she was there, but she's saying she wasn't an active participant. So by this time, the family's there and we kept them separate. And I go up and talk to the mom and the other daughter and I said, listen. Said, this is absolutely going to rock your world. I said, but she's under arrest. She has some things she wants to tell you. And they were like, the mom, y'. All, again, this is one of the strongest. Ladies. Just think about this. This lady lost everything in a blink of an eye. She lost her mother, she lost her husband, and now she's losing a daughter, okay? And she's already been through so much, and it's almost six months later, and now she finds out her daughter was involved on top of her husband. So, you know, I just told her, I said that I'm not going to tell you anything. Let you go down there and let her tell you. I said, but it's bad. I said, you know, we're just gonna let you talk to her. But I. I took the daughter to the side, the one that was married to the Baton Rouge City detective. And I said, listen, the. She's already confessed to being Air Etc. I said, I need you if you ask her about anything, ask her about the gunshots and ask her about women's underwear. She looked at him. I said, he him wearing some women's underwear. And she said, okay, okay. And she was really tough. Now, her being a paramedic and all that stuff, she's seen a lot. And being married to the detective, she knows, you know, I don't know. I won't call it the game, but she knows what the deal is. So we bring them down there, same thing. Leave the door open, let them go in. And I see it again immediately when the sister goes in. And standing in the hallway on this one. And again, I told him no touching. And. And all that. I don't, you know, don't kill her. Don't beat on her or anything. And when the sister walked in, her eyes got big as saucers. And then she just threw this hate face on. Like, what the are you doing here? She didn't say it out loud, but, I mean, it was just written all over her face. And her mom walked in, she turned her mom and she Turned that puppy dog face on. Mama, Mama, I'm so sorry. I'm so sorry. And she said. The mom says, what, baby? What happened? Tell me what happened. She's like, I'm just so sorry. I'm just so sorry. And. And the mom said, you've got to tell me what happened. And she told her, she said, I was there. And she said the nickname we'll call her grandmother. When. Grandmother. When. When he murdered grandmother. And she said, what do you mean you were there? And she said, I was there with him. And the sister said, what were you doing there with him? She said, I was doing drugs with him. And she said, but he was shooting up. I don't shoot up. And I was. I was snorting cocaine and I was there with him to do drugs. And she said. The mom said, tell me what happened. She said, well, grandmother came in and saw us doing the drugs and said she was going to call you. And then he started beating on her. And she said, and. And I freaked out. And I. And I ran and I ran outside in the backyard by the pool, and I heard a gunshot. Now she's deviating from her story, right? From what she told us and told my husband, et cetera. She said, I heard a gunshot. And the sister said, well, what did it sound like? And. And she said, and I'll never forget that she said, sounded like a balloon popping. Now, there's no way she heard that from outside the backyard from where it was. And we knew she was lying. But regardless, she puts herself there. But now she's back in self preservation. Her mama's there. The sister that she hates is there or is jealous of is there. And the. And they asked her just a couple more question. Mom's like, I don't understand. The mom's, you know, destroyed again. I don't understand. She said, mom, I. I didn't do it. I didn't have anything to do with it. I didn't think to do it. And sister said, you didn't tell us you lied about it all this time? She said, I know, but I was scared and I was scared of him. And now she's trying to play the victim and shed. And this went on for like, you know, the couple minutes. And we just interrupted and said, look, y', all, that's. That's enough. We got. We gotta go, you know. Okay. It really actually started getting pretty heated. And so we separated. We took them out. Oh, the sister asked her for his lips for slip. She said, tell me about the women's underwear. And she Said. She said the. She said, oh, I. I've seen him in. In bra and panties before. And that was kind of his thing. She said, that didn't bother me. That didn't both of me. She wasn't putting herself in the room. Say she wasn't telling her mom I was banging your husband or I was banging stepdad and he wears women's underwear. But she admitted that's one of those things she didn't think through. She. And she's playing us on, the running out of the house and all that. Why didn't you tell us that? She couldn't tell us that because she just made it up. She's making it up for a mama's benefit. But she fucked up when she said, oh, yeah, yeah, I've seen him in women's underwear before. And I knew that's his thing, you know, but that never bothered me. Well, bitch, how do you know your stepdad likes to get cross dress in women's underwear and have sex and do coat again? Another piece for the jury. Okay, so get the family out of there. We come back in. I don't. You know, again, y', all all this question and everything. I'm telling you, Cal and I were 1000% team playing off each other and just went back in and Nick picked on little things. And then I thought about. I said, you know what we need to do? Take the big shot and end. Got Cal back at home. I said, listen, you know, the would be so sweet is if we can get her to sit with him and get him pissed off now that he knows she's under arrest, where he starts screaming that she did it. And he was like, yes. So I called the sheriff and. And I said, hey, Boston, it was Willie Grace. I said, this is the deal and this is the plan. He's like, he said, that might work. He said, I'm gonna call the jail. I'm gonna tell them to get him out, put him in the. It really wasn't interview. Interview room, y'. All. At the time, this old jail was more like a. Like a classroom, some or medical room. So I'm gonna get them to have him out handcuffed and shackled. And when you go to book her in, bring her in there and see if you can do it. See what you can do. And so we did that. We did her booking sheet and everything. She's calmed down a lot. She's almost to the point of joking. The we. We drive to the jail with her. And before you leave the courthouse, even though it's only a couple miles. You, you call, you know, LP201 259 Transport one white female, 1015 from detective's office to Paris Jail. Beginning mileage is such and such. And y' all you do that for just to take care of yourself, to cover your own ass. Because they can tell you exactly how long it takes to get jail. This chick can't come back and say we tried to rape her on the way or stopped and beat her or anything like that. Anyway, we go get to the jail, drive through Sally Port. Sally Port is. It's like a man trap, y'. All. When you pull in, gate shuts behind me the. And then there's a door. You get her out that the door pops open. You step into this inner chamber, the door shuts behind you. Of course we secured our weapons in the vehicle. But if you didn't, they had a weapon drawer on the wall that you could lock your weapon up in the Sally port and then. And pat Frister again and then buzz open the interior door and you're looking at the control room of the prison and the matron came out and I think it was Karen. Karen or Tolano, our dream team moderator was there that day. As a matter of fact, I know it was. And she came out and she pat frisked her, made sure she didn't have anything on her. And she said the sheriff called and we have him. And in that room I said cool. And she looked at me and said who? I said, come on, I'm gonna show you. And so Calvin and I bring her down there and open the door and here he sits behind this desk and he's cuffed to the table and he's shackled and he's in this orange jumpsuit and he's a big fat slob with glasses on, his little pencil thin mustache. And he's sitting behind the thing. And when we brought her through the door, you could have heard a pin drop up in that. When he looks at her and she looks at him and didn't say anything. We just want to see put the fireworks with the chemical reaction, if you will was going to be. And then she starts going off you. Why'd you have to shoot her in the head? Why'd you have to shoot her in the head in the. Now look, we'd optimize them, right? So as far as we're concerned, these are two inmates, right? That's them talking and everything in the jealous monitor. And she's like, why'd you have to shoot him in the head. And you didn't have to do that. And da, da, da, da, da. And she said, yeah, you just didn't have to do that. And in going on, he said, I ain't saying a thing. Well, guess what the problem is now, y', all, it's been five months gone by and I'm gonna get into it in next week's episode of what the court battle is that's been going on and what's going down. And so she was going off to the extreme, but I think she was doing it more like in a threatening way. This is my personal observation on having proof to back it up. I think she was doing more in like a personal way that like. Like she literally wore the pants when they were together and she was threatening him, I guess. He said, I ain't saying a thing. And the. And you know, just. He said that once or twice we grabbed her and. And gave it to the matron and we'd already done the booking sheet and she was booked in for murder of her grandmother. And that's it for this week. Next week I am going to conclude conclude finally the series Monsters and y'. All. I have to do it the last part, because I've got to tell you everything that happened. Everything that happened in the criminal case is their. Their cases. And I want to tell you and explain it to you in detail. And then I'm going to tell you why and why I'm doing this series. You think you know what happened. You don't know. And because I just found this out and the week before I started doing the series, I wasn't even going to do this case. And I'm still not going to say the names because the family just doesn't deserve to have to live through it again. But you know, as bad as I feel for him, this is all this shit's a matter of public record. And somebody would probably got a hold of and told the story one day anyway, but they wouldn't have the personal knowledge that I have. But when I found out what happened, remember the. We were arrested her in May. I left November 1st for to be a criminal investigator with Louisiana State Police. I kind of kept. I don't want to give it away. I'll tell you all next week. I just found out in 2020, about two months ago what the conclusion was and it infuriated me. So next week, conclusions of Monsters with monsters part 8 and some announcements real quick. As always, justice for Courtney Coco. Hang in there. I think this is going to be a really telling time of what what does or doesn't happen in in the near future. Ms. Barbara Blunt, please continue to call the cases Remember when Courtney Coco's when the murders are arrested in Courtney Coco's case. We are going to start the cold case. Toby Tone, tomplay and I are going to start releasing the series don't call it a cold case. Now for everybody who's sending me cold cases every day, please, you can email me email me@woodyeallliferealcrime.com and I'm going to catalog them. Y'. All, I can promise you this. Don't have the time or the financial resources to to work them but not yet. Maybe one day but I'm going I'm at least look at every one of them and then, you know, kick it with Toby for the new podcast and and we're going to work some of them certainly. But these things take time and money. So anyway continue to call on you tips on Ms. Barbara Blunt and
