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these cases off of the Internet or for some television show. The facts I'm retelling you were presented to me by the victims of the crimes or the perpetrators who committed the crimes against the victims. My descriptions of the crime scenes, what I saw with my own two eyes. If you're gonna get offended, please turn this podcast off now. Thank you. Hello everybody and welcome this episode of Real Life, Real Crime, the podcast. As always, I'm your host Woody Overton, and today I'm going to Be finally concluding the series titled Monsters. And this would be Monsters Part 9. And I don't care how long it goes, I'm going to finish it today. Usually I start and I'll end wherever, but this has gone on long enough. And today is going to be different, y'. All. It's not so much about storytelling. You know, I don't like to use notes and I'm wrong unscripted and all that. But I want to tell you, first of all, stay tuned at the end today's show from some notes and all that good stuff. All right? But I. I wanted to tell this story naturally. It's one of the. The worst cases I've ever worked. Pretty dramatic. And I think that's been proven by Yalls interest in the series. But of course, my family, the family, my heart goes out to them. And I'm not going to release the names to the general public, although it is a matter of public record. Everything I said, not everything I said that I told you all on the inside is public record. But it's, you know, this is public record. And, And. But I don't want that family to have to suffer or I don't want people approach them in the grocery store and stuff like that. And I know you would do it with the best of intentions, but they've suffered enough, man. This. I mean, I can't imagine what they've been through. And it's been all these Years later, what, 14, 15 years later, something like that. But I'm sure it doesn't lessen the pain on the family, especially the daughter of the victim, who was at the time the wife of the killer, the one who shot her in the head, and the mother of the. The other. I'm gonna call our lady, the other female that was present at the time. So I'm gonna have to read a lot y' all today because the reason I'm just. Because it's a lot of stuff, a lot of legal stuff, so bear with me. And at the very end, you're gonna understand why I did the story because I got so pissed off when I found out about it. So let me back up the last week I read y' all about him, and he took the. The plea deal to take the death penalty off the table and all that. So he's gone. Bye bye. He's going to die in Angola. It's a death sentence no matter what. He can't parole. He can't even go up for parole or appeal or anything like that. So him, he's right where he needs to be. And now let's go to her. By her, I mean the suspect I told you we arrested and she confessed and, and you know, not only to us, but to her husband and then partial confession to her mama and her sister and, and all that. So let's go, let's go back to her now. I left November 1, 2007. What was May, June, July, August, September, October, November. Six months after, basically after we arrested her and got her to talk and all that stuff. So I go to State Police at headquarters in Baton Rouge in. I was attached to, officially attached to the terminal Internal affairs division. And we had a, a secretary or she was like the head secretary. She kind of ran the office and she knew this female from before and she would ask me, I mean, she's such a sweet lady and she would ask me all the time about the case. And in the beginning I was still getting subpoenas and stuff until he plug out. And I think it was in like 2009, but I didn't. She kept asking me about her because she knew the females, the, the guilty female before time, you know, and she kept asking me from time to time when we'd be BS and she would say, hey, what about her? And I'm like, you know, I just, I don't know. I don't know. I have, I've never got a subpoena owner. I don't know. And honestly, y', all, I didn't have time to keep up with it. I mean, I would at, at State Police as a criminal investigator and doing what I do and you know, time marches on, right? But I just knew we had this air tight case and confession. Even though she didn't confess to the killing, she confessed to being there. The. She confessed to having a sexual relationship with him to us anyway. And I mean she confessed to lying about it and everything. Of course she didn't say that she was the killer, but she was there and she, you know, she didn't, she didn't come forward. And in no time does she call after they left the residence that day and even after the gunshot or. No, I mean she was home by herself for hours and hours and hours. No time does she call 911 or she could have even called anonymously and said, I think I heard something over here. Can, you know, can you send somebody to check, check on it or whatever. No, bullshit. She didn't do it because she was guilty and she knew it. And, and she could have took, took the out of. I was afraid of him. Anything but she didn't do it. And. And it was her grandmother, okay, who died the most violent single person death that I've ever seen ever. And she will always be a monster in my book because of that. So. So anyway, time marches on, you know, and in shit, I never. I never followed up. I think maybe, I don't know, in 2012 or 13, I actually, I don't know if it was Calvin that I saw or Karen Ortolano, who was. Who was the matron at the jail until she retired. She. She dealt with the females on. On a daily basis. But I asked somebody at some point in time, they told me that she. She took a plea deal. And I didn't ask the years or anything like that. I mean, whatever. Okay, so I get it that he took a plea deal to life in prison. And I figured, I mean, she. She took a pretty hefty chunk whatever, but it didn't matter. She's gone. And in, you know, justice is what it is. Right. And. And if the family took the plea deal on him to avoid trial and all that, well, certainly I can understand them taking it on their own daughter. You know, she's locked up and. And that's it. So. But recently. And then by recently, I mean a couple months ago, I was talking to Karen or Talana again. Now, Karen retired from the sheriff's office and, you know, spent her life doing corrections. And she is one of our dream team moderators, and she's a lifelong friend of mine and I worked with her for all those years, but she's also like, kind of our unofficial chief researcher. Whenever I need information on something or I'm remembering a case or she. She'll hit me up and be like, hey, I want you to do this case. You know, I want you to do this case. Because she has the inside knowledge. After I arrested them, she had the knowledge of how they acted in the jail and stuff. Like, she also worked at lciw. Yeah, the women's prison before she came to the sheriff's office. I mean, so she knew convicts were her life or inmates were her life, but she and I were talking about she'd been wanting me to do this case for a long time. I said, well, you know what? I don't ever know what happened to her. I said, can you look it up for me? And she loves to research. And yeah, if you're a member of her real life, real crime, friends, friend, friends, fans and crew page, she posts on there almost every single day a different crime that she's researched I mean she's a master research. She loves genealogy and all that, but she loves to research true crime. She said, yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean she loves to do it. I mean it's like a passion for her. And in she got back to me and when she told me what happened in this case, it blew my mind. And then it got me fired up and that's the reason I did this series Monsters. And today at the end of it, you're gonna find out why I did it and then I'm gonna tell you what I'm gonna try to do to make a change. So let's just go to it. The Karen and I were talking about it and she sent me the information. I was like, holy shit, I can't believe this. And she couldn't believe it either. And so let's go back to it. I asked her, I said, you know, tell me about her time in a jail. And she said she spent most of her time, even after she got sentenced, she spent most of her time in the parish prison. And all that happens. Parishes, for whatever reason, sometimes they'll keep an idea, a Department of Correction inmate, even after they get sentenced, sometimes they'll keep them in the parish. And the parish certainly makes money off of it. The state pays them X amount of dollars to house these inmates. Now the difference between a parish prisoner and a DOC inmate is you can get arrested for whatever. As long as you're sentenced to something that's under a year prison time, then you can be sent, you'll be sentenced to the parish prison. Right? You can do your time locally. If you get sentenced to anything over a year, you're sentenced to the apartment of corrections. And then the Department of Corrections classifies you. And if they, you know, they may put you in some local parish prison because they're overcrowding or whatever the reason may be. But the, but she told me Karen said, she said she being the bad girl, did most of her time with us. She spent some time at lciw, which is Louisiana Corrections. It's the prison for women it used to be in San Gabriel. So the. She said, yeah, she said she was a. She tried to do an insanity plea. From what she remembers, she tried to do an insanity police. She said she was a cutter. She would cut herself and she said that, that cutting her self relieved pain or what have you. And I know that that is a medical condition. I know people have done that. But before she took a plea, she immediately tried for an insanity defense. Now let me read just a little bit. The The. I guess I could just skip to the appeal. She. She tried for an insanity defense, y', all, and saying that she was crazy and therefore she's not responsible for the crime that she committed. Well, this is pre trial, and so what do we have to do? We have to spend a taxpayer dollars and they send her off to wherever to be evaluated by the shrinks and all that stuff, and they do the testing and what have you. And I'm sure she, you know, I don't have any direct knowledge, but I'm sure she did whatever acted crazy as. As AF and in. But ultimately the doctors all came back and said she's not crazy. You know, I mean, certainly she has some mental issues, which we all do. Right? But she definitely knew what she was doing, and she definitely is saying enough to stand trial for these charges. Well, okay, so what do you do now? She.

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Woody Overton (23:17)

I guess maybe to saved. I don't know why they did it, y'. All. And I guess the family had had enough and they figured she's locked away and it'd be good enough. So they offer her what has to be like the sweetheart of all sweetheart deals. And I was, I wasn't really offended about, about the amount of time because it is what it is, right? In. In. But what happened afterwards. So. And I'll tell you about that, but let me read to you. She. She comes in, she's. The charge was second degree murder. Okay. She took a plea bargain. Now, I'm gonna read you some stuff, so bear with me on. On the the pages and hopefully I won't say the name out loud. If I do Toby, I'll say boom. All right, so in 2009, no, let's see. Yeah, we arrested. I think May of 2007. But just let me read you. After she took up the plea deal and she got these years, okay? Then she files an appeal with the First Circuit. Now, this is the stupidest appeal I've ever heard. And it's so bad. When I get done reading, you'll know why, but it's so bad that it makes. What was that girl's name? Ashley Posey. She. I don't know if y' all remember that case when she appealed and she. I mean, she's sitting around prison. Got dick else to do, but she appealed late, so her appeal got turned down. Right? And this is on that kind of dumb level, but this is really on the attorney. Not so much on the. On the bad girl.

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Start with the appeal. Okay, so she's. She's taken some time. She's sentenced to prison, and she files this appeal. Summerita to you. State of Louisiana court of appeal, first circuit number 2009k a 1374. So if y' all want to go look it up, I don't care. I'm not saying the names there. State of Louisiana versus Her. And the judgment was rendered by the court of appeals on December 23, 2009, says appealed from the 21st Judicial District Court in and for the parish of Livingston, State of Louisiana, trial court number 21914, Honorable Ernest G. Drake, judge presiding. You had Scott Perleu and Charlotte Abare, attorneys for the. The state of Louisiana. And Frank Sloan is the attorney for her. All right, so the appeal says the defendant, and it gives her name, was originally charged by grand jury indictment with one count of second degree murder, a violation of Louisiana Revised Statute 14.30.1. The defendant entered a plea of not guilty. During the pre trial stage, the defendant moved for a sanity commission. Following a sanity hearing, the trial court found the defendant competent to proceed pursuant to a plea agreement. The state later amended the indictment to charge the defendant with accessory after the fact to second degree murder, a violation of Louisiana Revised Statute 14.25 and 14.30.1. Defendant entered a plea of no contest and was sentenced to a term of five years at hard labor. The defendant now appeals. All right, real quick, y'. All. No contest doesn't mean dick. No contest is a guilty plea. The. The. You can plead guilty, no contest or not guilty. No contest simply stops anybody from being able to come back and see you civilly. Okay? That's it. But it is a guilty plea, period. It's the same thing. I don't think her mom and them are going to come back and sue her ass anyway. But anyway. So here's the. Here's the appeal here. The facts of the case. Well, November 15, 2006, our victim was shot inside her residence in Livingston Parish. William Boom Toby. He later pled guilty to the homicide, and the defendant admitted to aiding him by harboring him after the incident. The issues. The defense brief contains no assignment of error. Instead, defense counsel states the brief was filed to conform procedures outlined. The State vs Benjamin. Benjamin set forth procedure to comply with Anders vs California, blah blah, blah. Wherein the US Supreme Court discussed how appellate counsel should proceed when upon conscientious review of a case, counsel found the appeal wholly frivolous. Bear with me. In a brief to this court, the defense counsel also reviews the procedural history of the case and the plea entered by the defendant. In his motion to withdraw. The counsel states that after a conscientious and thorough examination of the record, he has found no non frivolous issues to present on appeal by a separate motion, he moves to withdrawal as defendant's counsel for the appeal. According to the motion to withdraw, a copy of defense counsel's brief to motion to withdraw were sent to the defendant. That's her. Defense counsel also informed the defendant that she had the right to file a briefing on her own behalf. However, the defendant has not filed a pro se brief with this court. The conclusion. After an independent review of the entire record in this matter, we have found that y' all hear this after an independent review of the entire record in this matter. Now, that's all the charges we brought against her and everything, her confessions, everything else. We have found no reversible errors under Louisiana whatever. Furthermore, we conclude there are no non frivolous issues or trial court rulings that arguably support this appeal. Accordingly, the defendant's conviction and sentence are affirmed. Defense counsel's motion of withdrawal, which has been held in abeyance pending disposition of this matter, is hereby granted. Conviction. And this is all capital black letters. Conviction and sentence affirmed. Defense counsel, motion to withdrawal granted. Okay, let me explain it to you. He. He filed an appeal for her under Benjamin, which basically that says if. If an attorney takes a case and they just found so egregious on that it bothers their conscience that they have to file an appeal on behalf of the person who's been convicted. This asshole files this appeal and evidently got scolded by the first Circuit. And I'm like, are you serious? And look at all the evidence in this case and tell me your. Your conscience is really offended after she confessed and she hit him out. She didn't do anything to help the victim. And all the horrible facts of the case. Are you fucking serious? And so her own attorney said was like, yeah, you got me. This was bullshit. And I'm withdrawing my appeal, and I don't want to be her attorney anymore. And so the court, of course, they. They don't just, you know, get on the attorney's ass. They actually do read the whole case, and. Which is everything that I told y'. All. And they were like, she'd be guilty, right? So her own attorney pulls the appeal, and of course she does. She had a right to still try to appeal. She didn't. But. So here's the deal. Back to it on the plea bargain.

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accessory after the fact of her grandmother. Now, that's a plea bargain. Y'. All. We know what happened, right? And certainly they could have gone much harder, but it had been some years now since the murder, and he's gone to die in Angola. And so whatever reason, I'm sure the family agreed to it. But she also got two and a half years added to that for she admitted to having possession of cocaine or attempted possession, okay, whatever, at the house that day. Okay, so she. I think she got seven and a half years total. Well, I mean, shit, she's been down since 2007. By the time this appeal came down, she had been down for, I don't know, over two years or whatever. So she's got five left to do. And she did like 90% of it at the parish prison. So Karen Ortolano got to see her pretty much every day. Now, that's not what pissed me off. The. I mean, she's, you know, she had. She had to stand in front of the court and. And enter a plea of guilty. Now, I want to read you some of this stuff, and it's going to be a little bit tedious, but this is how it goes When. When you take this. This pill, a not pill. When you take this plea bargain, you come before the court and the. You have to stand in and they. They read the charge and. And then they read the plea bargain. I'm gonna read this to you. And it's long and whatever, but it's important y' all just to the story. Okay? So it says, On March 19, 2009, court convened at the hour of 9:00am before the Honorable Ernest G. Drake, Jr. District Judge, Division, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. State of Louisiana versus Her. And charge is second degree murder. It gives a case number and it says her purse that she it says her name but defendant personally appeared in open court and the matter appearing on the criminal docket this date. For the purpose of motion. Defense was duly sworn and. And the defendant her was duly sworn and testified. The court questioned the defendant regarding her educational background, her employment and the amended charge to accessory after the fact to second degree murder. The court read the law and the possible penalties of the charge to the defendant. The court advised the defendant of the use of this conviction and provided enhanced penalty any subsequent offense. The court advised the defendant of the following rights. The right to plead not guilty and that the burden of the proof rest upon the state of Louisiana to prove each and every element of the offense for which you are charged beyond a reasonable doubt. The right to be that she had the right to be confronted by your accusers and to cross examine them. The right to remain silent and you're not required to testify against yourself or incriminate yourself in any way. The right to call witnesses, testify on your behalf. The right to trial by judge or jury and the right to an appeal. The defendants stated she had been advised her legal and constitutional rights and waived said rights. The defender entered a plea of guilty. All right. Doesn't have no. No low contend day in that part. See the guilty. Oh yeah, that has guilty. No contest to the charge. But she entered the plea of guilty. The defendant entered a plea of guilty to the charge. Counsel for the defendant stated that he had advised the defendant of her legal and constitutional rights and feels that the defendant understands her his advice. The defendant stated she was satisfied with the representation afforded her by counsel. The court advised the defendant of her rights to file for post conviction relief within two years. The court accepted the plea, finding there is a factual basis for the plea and that the plea is knowingly, intelligently and voluntarily made and is therefore accepted by the court. The defendant waived all delays for sentence. The court imposes the following sentences. Five years with the Department of corrections. And it does not say with hard labor, y'. All. Somebody was asking about hard labor. You check the box with hard labor. Without hard labor. So that must have been part of the plea deal that she was going to get to stay in a parish prison. Otherwise if she'd have been going doc full time, it would have to be with hard labor. But she got credit for time served from May 2nd of 2007 until that day, which was a couple years. All right, standby. All right. So then they do the same thing again, y' all. On. On the charge. It's the same thing. I Just read you the educational background, employment, blah, blah, the court of eyes and the rights and everything else and that she entered into. Let me read you what the charge was. The defendant plead guilty. This is going to be the. For the cocaine, let's see, blah, blah, two charge. That she personally appeared in open court. Oh, now she has a lawyer. Now, y', all, the retained counsel. It's the same thing. Everything I just read you about, and they reading the rights. And, you know, she had to enter the plea of guilty. And they gave her two and a half years with the Department of Corrections, but they did not check with hard labor or without hard labors, and it was to run consecutive with the other five years. Okay, and that was for the cocaine charge, y'. All.

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Woody Overton (38:22)

All right, all right, so seven and a half years. Five, four. Accessory after the fact to this to the second degree murder of your grandmother. Two and a half years. You get half that time for having cocaine. All right, whatever. I don't care. I mean, she's going to prison, right? That's. That's not what pissed me off. The. You know, so in the grand scheme of things, she's gonna do seven and a half years. She's gonna be a convicted felon. She knows. She. She was there when her grandmother was murdered. She knows what the deal was or wasn't. Like I told you, only three people actually know who did the beatings and all that, and one of them was dead. The other one's doing life and end goal, and the third is her. Right, so anyway. Oh, I'm sorry. On the. On the cocaine charge, y', all, it was possession with intent to distribute cocaine, Schedule two. All right, so her two charges, second degree murder, original charges were secondary murder and schedule two, possession intensive distribute cocaine. And they played them down to what I told you. All right? So neither here nor there. I mean, you know, she's gone, and that's the way it is, right? But this is what set me off. I have never in all my years heard any shit like this. Now, there's nothing that could be done about this, it's done, it's been done and it can never be undone. But on November 24, 2014. So almost like, what's that? Six and almost eight years after the murder, her grandmother, she gets a full pardon. A full pardon. P A R, D O N. Okay, I've heard a first time offenders getting pardons like 894 Article 894s for DWI's and stuff like that. And I get it, maybe, maybe you did a burglary and later on you want your record cleared and all that. But this is. You pled guilty to accessory after the fact, second degree murder and the cocaine charge. It's a crime of violence. Okay, she got a full pardon. And I'm going to read this to you. And it's just absolutely shocking. State of Louisiana Department of Public Safety and Corrections Division of Probation and parole baton rouge, LA Date November 24, 2014 this is a verification of first offender pardon. It gives her name and her address, her DOC number, the Department of Correction, her inmate number. To whom it may concern. It appearing to Louisiana Department of Public Safety and Corrections, Division of Probation and Parole that she was sentenced by the Honorable Drake, Judge of the 21st Judicial District Court, Parish of Livingston, State of Louisiana, under the above listed DOC numbers and for the crimes of accessory, second degree murder, schedule 2, possession when attempted to distribute cocaine and is further appearing that the defendant has completed the sentence and meets all of the requirements for an automatic first offender pardon as outlined and Revised Statute 15, Semicolon 5, 7 2. Now, therefore, as provided by Article 1, Section 20 and Article 4, Section 5E1 of the Louisiana Constitution, this will certify the effective November 1, 2014 and it gives her name in capital letters, has discharged her sentence for the above stated offenses and that all rights of citizenship and franchise are restored in Louisiana. The right to receive, possess or transport a firearm may not be restored unless all legal provisions referred to and whatever are met and any questions regarding these legal provisions should be directed to your attorney. This is a letter to her, y'. All. The first offender pardon is also subject to the Louisiana Constitution, Article 1, Section 10 and does not restore a person's right to qualify as a king candidate for elective public office like somebody who's going to vote for her, her and Arden Wells, I guess, or take public elective office or appointment, honor, trust or profit for a period more than 15 years after the completion of their original sentence. Similarly, this person does not constitute a waiver of any unpaid court cost, restitution or past probation or Parole FEES under Act 381 of the 2010 Louisiana Regular Legislative Session, any debt owed by you to the Department of Public Safety and Corrections and or Louisiana Parole Board will be filed as claim with the Department of Revenue to offset against amounts refundable to you because of overpayment of state income taxes. Gerald W. Starks Probation Parole Director now what the fuck? She is free. Pardon? Walking around free, free, free. Now, it doesn't mean she's not guilty. She completed her sentence. And I really find the date just striking 1124. I can't remember the exact date that her grandmother was brutally executed, but I think it was that same week. But that is the first time y', all I ever heard of the first offender pardon for or I've ever seen one, especially on, on a crime of violence like that. And I told Karen and I was like. And she was like, can you believe this? I was like, that has to be a mistake. We have to, we have to research it. We didn't have this paper to start with. She told me she got a full pardon. I said, there's no way, there's no way. You got to find that paperwork because there's no way. Well, hell, she found the paperwork, she hired a lawyer and played the system and she is pardoned. Doesn't mean she's not guilty. She admitted to being guilty. She played down to accessory after the fact of the murder of her grandmother and to the cocaine charges. Did her time, but now it's not there. I mean, she's pardoned, she's been fully forgiven by the state of Louisiana for the murder or the accessory after the fact of the murder of her grandmother. I don't get that. Now, I'm sure when they instituted this first time offender rule, I, I could see it, y' all in a lot of cases because sometimes people make just dumbass choices and they really are young and they grow out of it. You know, the, the studies show most males grow out of the criminal behavior by age 24 and they don't but grow out of about 24 then pretty much they're gonna make a trustee find trustee somewhere one day because they're gonna get busted sooner or later, right? They're gonna keep being a criminal. But she was 39 years old, I think in her late 30s when she was there and her grandmother was executed. So I don't think that when, when they wrote this, this law for first time offenders that it applied to people who murdered a fucking grandmother or at least played down to being there and all the facts that I've told you in this case and in the line and the, the. The covering up. And let me tell you something. You know, I do not have any direct knowledge I wasn't in that hallway. But I damn well can guarantee things went different than, than what she's saying. And then to add insult to injury, since I started the series, had people say that she is. Is saying everything except for that she was guilty. She's saying that the. She didn't do it, she wasn't there, she made it all up. Then I've also heard that she's even blaming her mama. Said it is her mama's fault for marrying a dope head. That's her mama's fault that, that her grandmother got killed and flipping the script on her mama. The. Which is another reason I don't. I'm not releasing the names. But she's saying everything. Oh, saying that, that her blood evidence was only in, in one small area. Well, guess what, that. That's one small area that came back testing positive. But it was fresh blood. But you got to remember all the other blood was commingled, right? But anyway, she's saying everything after she gets her pardon, after she stands up in court, says, yeah, I did this, I was there, I covered it up afterwards, et cetera. And now I don't have any direct knowledge, but I've heard that she's telling people everything except for that she's guilty of even what she pled to. So it just blew my mind and it really pissed me off. And it's kind of like the Rapids burning thing. I'm like, you know what? I have this platform, I'm going to use it. And so what I'm going to do is I'm going to talk. I have a dear friend of mine who's a state rep and he's high up in. I mean there's not a hierarchy of state reps, but he was almost a speaker or whatever they call it. And I'm gonna go talk to him, let's go sit down. And I'm gonna tell him, say, hey, listen, this shit's got to change. There's got to be exclusions in this first time pardon for violent offenders and, or people who cover up that say they covered up for violent offenders. I mean, this is, this is a death penalty case, man. And if it hadn't been for the family, you know, not wanting to go through the trial and all that in the appeals process, that he would be on death row. And had he been on death row, Then yes, that I don't think they would have let her plead to seven and a half years. But that is what it is. I don't care. I can't do anything about her. Y'. All. I could damn sure try to make a change on get. I'm. I'm bringing to the state reps attention that before May and sit down and say listen to this shit. Listen to the facts of this case. And then you think about how many other people that are. Have been participated in crimes like this, even if they didn't plead to the actual murder itself and chances are they certainly took part in it. But do something about this. We got changes. Make an exclusion for. Okay, I get. If you, if you broke into a bunch of vehicles and you got arrested and you did your time, you get out and you get a first time pardon. I don't care about that or whatever it may be. Certainly not sex offenders. I don't believe sex offenders should get a first time pardon. I mean do you. If you rape somebody in your first time offender, after you do your time, you should get a pardon that you know that's a crime of violence. Rape is a crime of violence. Murder. Are you shitting me? Or accessory to the. After the fact to murder. That. The, the. That needs. They need to have an exclusion. They need to change the law in the state of Louisiana or have a paragraph in there that this ship won't fly again. She's done, she's free. And she could say whatever she wants to now because she's been pardoned by the state of Louisiana under the first time offenders law. That's bullshit. And I'm gonna do something about it. And I think that everybody should call their state rep and be like we need to change this bullshit. If you, if it's crime of violence, I don't think they should get it. I mean do you. And crime is a violence. Y' all are defined. You know, it's. It's could be the murder, it could be rape, it could be, you know, the, the. I'm not talking about misdemeanor crimes like a simple battery. It could be second degree aggravated battery, which is attempted murder. The. I mean something serious like that. I don't fuck that, man. I think that should be on your record. And, and I don't think you should get a pardon. I'm sorry, maybe I'm just. Maybe I'm dead ass wrong. But it blew my mind so hard and I told Karen, I was like holy. And I got to think about this. We got to I just got to think about it. And what I came up with was, at 3 o' clock in the morning on OCD is as. You know what? I'm gonna tell this fucking story and I'm gonna tell the story and, and just like rapids burning, let people get pissed off. And then when I go to the state rep, I can say, listen to all these people. Maybe we'll do a petition page or something on, on who knows how much longer Facebook will be around. But we'll, We'll. I'll come up with something, y', all and put it out to you. And if you, if you're offended of this like I am, then you can sign your name to it and we'll get. We'll get a petition to the state rep and let him. Hopefully, and I think he will, because this guy's. He's tough on crime and hopefully he can. He can introduce a bill to the legislature that changes this so it'll never happen again. That's. Can't do anything about her. Can't do it. And, and, you know, we, we have the best justice system in the world, but it is certainly not perfect. And, and the seven and a half years would have really bothered me. Not really bothering me. I mean, seven and a half years is still a long time, but not. Chef got people more time for car burglaries than seven and a half years. And she went in for accessory after the fact. Second degree murder. Young grandmother in possession when attempt to distribute cocaine. And you get seven and a half years, and then you get out in the same week that you were there when your grandmother was executed because you were a monster. You get a full pardon. I say we change it, people. So I'm putting my money where my mouth is. I'm going to come up with something if y' all want to sign it, hopefully. You know, I'm, I'm actually, I'm a call the state rep and see what does he need. And, and if it's a petition or whatever it may be, or he may not need anything but get him to introduce a bill for people. I. You can't. I don't think you should be pardoned if you took a part in a crime like this. I don't give a. If you serve seven years or 70 years, I don't think you should be pardoned, period. So that's it. I'm good. I'm gonna conclude the series Monsters, y'. All. It's, you know, just a horrible case and you put in all the sex and the violence and the families being destroyed and the victim. Oh, my gosh. And I mean, you just couldn't have been a better person for her life to end like this. Just pure evil, pure monsters. But it just needs to be changed. The law needs to be changed. I mean, I don't get it. I don't. I don't care. You know, I guess maybe I never heard about it because most people never try to get that, you know, And I don't know why I never heard about it, but I'm damn sure going to try to do something, change it. But anyway, that's it. I'm concluding the series Monsters. I'm taking off next week, I guess we'll call it in between seasons. I am going to do a Patron release a Patron episode next week to the Patron vault. 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