Real Life Real Crime | What Happened To Jackie part 1 Remastered

Summary

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Real Life Real Crime | What Happened To Jackie Part 1 Remastered

Podcast: Real Life Real Crime
Host: Woody Overton
Release Date: December 24, 2025

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Overview

In this special “remastered” episode, Woody Overton revisits one of his earliest and most formative cases as a detective—the mysterious and harrowing story of “Jackie,” a 22-year-old woman whose supposed overdose exposed a much darker reality. With his signature blend of Cajun storytelling, uncompromising candor, and gritty law enforcement insight, Woody walks listeners through the twists, bureaucratic failures, and raw humanity at the heart of a true crime tragedy, reflecting on lessons learned and the lasting impact of unsolved cases—both on victims’ families and law enforcement.

Woody takes a deeply personal approach, sharing not only the timeline of Jackie’s case but also the emotional and investigative hurdles facing detectives working violent crime in small parishes. He lifts the curtain on long-running cold cases, the responsibility to families, and the need for stubborn advocacy in the face of institutional inertia—setting the tone for why Real Life Real Crime has become a lifeline for true crime fans hungry for authenticity and transparency.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Reflections on Cold Cases, Justice, and Advocacy

• Woody and the co-host begin by discussing the heavy emotional toll of working multiple cold cases, the tension between public expectations and the reality of casework, and the agony of seeking justice for families (04:38–11:46).
  • “You new listeners...think it’s just going to be Bradley...guess what, I’m working like a million cases and every family deserves justice.” – Co-host (06:40)
  • The justice delays and frustrations with local DA’s and broken promises are laid bare.
• On family pain and public perception:
  • “Homicides are like migraines. Everybody knows what it is, unless you’re experiencing it…you really don’t know.” – Woody (11:20)

2. Setting the Scene: The Case of Jackie

• Woody rewinds to his early days as a detective and gives context to the rural Louisiana setting, describing not only the landscape but also the policing shifts and how homicide investigations are handled in small communities (16:18–18:00).
• He details an initial call on a Sunday afternoon where a father, Boudreaux, calls 911 claiming his daughter, Jackie, is dead—asking for a hearse rather than an ambulance, which immediately strikes Woody as suspicious.
  • “If you call 911 saying, ‘send a hearse’…right away I just had a bad feeling.” – Woody (22:18)

3. Bizarre Details and Suspicious Behavior

• Woody describes arriving at the trailer, initial observations, and his interview with ‘Mr. Boudreaux’ (the stepfather).
  • The house is clean and seemingly well-kept—counter to the stereotype of “dopers.”
  • Mr. Boudreaux, an older heavy-set man, stands outside, oddly detached, still insisting Jackie is dead (28:52–32:00).
  • Boudreaux claims he never touched Jackie, though went in to check and saw covers pulled “up to her neck,” a statement that nags at Woody as oddly specific and suspicious.
• Notable moment:
  • “You just know she was dead?” – Woody
    “That’s right.” – Boudreaux (31:00)
• Odd family dynamics: The mother is absent, hospitalized for severe burns under suspicious circumstances.

4. Procedural Fumbles at the Hospital

• At the hospital, an ER doctor blocks Woody and partner Chuck Watts from photographing or examining Jackie, insisting it’s a simple overdose and dismissing police concerns (46:00–48:00).
  • The doctor’s hostility to law enforcement and refusal to document injuries infuriate Woody, presaging disaster for the case.
  • "He said, 'You're not going in. She is a drug head, and she has overdosed and she is not going to make it.'” – Woody (48:09)

5. Stunning Discovery: Jackie’s Injuries Revealed

• A day later, intensive care physicians call detectives back: Jackie isn’t just an overdose—she’s covered in injuries ("a ton” across her body, especially head, limbs, and torso), only now observed because original ER staff did not permit evidence collection (51:00–55:00).
  • “This girl had 57 different injuries to her body… bruising, scratches, everywhere, man.” – Woody (54:00)
• Investigative disaster:
  • Because the body was cleaned for ICU, DNA and other forensic evidence is mostly lost.
  • Defense attorneys now have clear grounds for “contamination” arguments; Woody is sick to his stomach at the lost opportunity.

6. Scramble for Justice: Search Warrants and Teamwork

• Chiefs and senior detectives express frustration but mobilize for a late-night search warrant sweep at Boudreaux’s home, looking for evidence, searching Boudreaux for scratch marks, and collecting all possible bedding and items for forensic analysis (56:43–End).
  • “Well, we’re kind of fucking screwed now, aren’t we?” – Chief of Detectives Norris Hull (56:55)
  • Woody describes assembling a team late at night and preparing for a knock-and-search, with the emotional weight of institutional failure hanging in the air.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On the difficulty of advocacy work and justice delays for families:
  • “When I get quiet is when bad people need to get scared, because I’m not speaking for a reason.” – Woody (13:54)
• On the flawed hospital response:
  • “I said, doc, we need to process for DNA...he said, ‘It ain’t going to do any good...they cleaned her down.’” – Woody (54:05)
• On the moment they realize how badly the investigation was compromised:
  • “A defense attorney is going to have a field day no matter what…we are screwed from a law enforcement standpoint.” – Woody (54:35)
• Setting up for a suspenseful cliffhanger:
  • “If you think you know where it’s going, you have no idea.” – Woody (End)

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Important Segment Timestamps

• [04:38–11:46] Reflections on advocacy, pain of families, realities of true crime podcasting
• [16:18–23:14] Jackie Case begins: Suspicious 911 call, arriving at the scene, stepfather’s odd behavior
• [28:52–31:00] Inside the house, stepfather’s statements about Jackie’s death, emotional and contextual details
• [46:00–48:00] Hospital roadblock: ER doctor refuses investigation access
• [51:00–55:00] Discovery of injuries, forensics frustration, and emotional impact on investigative team
• [56:43–End] Warrant obtained, team prepares to return to the scene, search for evidence and answers

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Tone & Language

Woody and his co-hosts maintain a raw, authentic, and unfiltered “cop storytelling” tone—mixing gallows humor with candid emotional reflection and frustration with procedural inefficiencies. Woody frequently addresses “lifers” (longtime listeners), shares gratitude for community support, and uses Southern colloquialisms and police jargon woven naturally through the retelling.

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Closing Notes

• Woody closes Part 1 on a cliffhanger, promising more shocking developments as the investigation unfolds, and underscores how critical details and time-sensitive actions in law enforcement can make or break the pursuit of justice.
• He also shares gratitude with fans, explains the podcast’s social media community, and encourages listeners to remain engaged, submit tips, and support each other in the search for truth.

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Next Week:
Continuation of “What Happened To Jackie” — as Woody and his team press deeper into a tragic and tangled investigation, raising tough questions about trust, loss, and institutional failure.

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If you’ve never listened to Real Life Real Crime, this episode is an unfiltered window into the stakes—both personal and professional—behind the headlines.
Justice, Woody reminds us, is often forged in heartbreak, long nights, and the relentless pursuit of even the smallest clue.

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Transcript

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[Woody Overton]

You have the right to remain silent. Anything you say can and will be used against you in a court of law. You have a right to an attorney prior to and during any question. If you can't afford one, the court appoint one for you. Do you understand your rights.

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[Woody Overton]

Already.

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Knows all about you cut you down no matter about you now you better walk.

[Woody Overton]

Without you. Warning this episode of Real Life, Real Crime. The podcast may contain descriptions of acts of violence or that of a sexual nature and should be for people that are 18 years or older. He my warning people, I do not get the facts of these cases off of the Internet or for some television show. The facts I'm retelling you were presented to me by the victims of the crimes or the perpetrators who committed the crimes against the victims. My descriptions of the crime scenes, what I saw with my own two eyes. If you're going to get offended, please turn this podcast off now. Thank you. Hello everybody, and welcome to this episode of Real Life, Real Crime, the podcast. As always, I'm your host, Woody Overton.

[Co-host (possibly Cindy or another regular co-host)]

And this week is the worst week for podcasts in the world because everybody's traveling and visiting people. Even if you want to kill them, that would be a true crime, right? But even if you want to kill them, you're visiting them. You hanging out and always said that the holidays are time you leave the ones you love to be with the.

[Woody Overton]

Ones you can barely stand.

[Co-host (possibly Cindy or another regular co-host)]

And I get that and hope your.

[Woody Overton]

Life isn't like mine like that.

[Co-host (possibly Cindy or another regular co-host)]

And you're just being blessed for the holidays, right? So back to it. Hashtag just for Bradley. Hashtag just for AO just for Ms. Barbara Blunt.

[Woody Overton]

Hashtag, well, can't even say about Haley anymore.

[Co-host (possibly Cindy or another regular co-host)]

December 26th was Haley's murder bursary.

[Woody Overton]

And we did it.

[Co-host (possibly Cindy or another regular co-host)]

We brought it to light.

[Woody Overton]

We got everything Ms. Barbara wanted. And that actually she messaged me tonight.

[Co-host (possibly Cindy or another regular co-host)]

And said, you got to quit avoiding.

[Woody Overton]

My phone calls at some point because.

[Co-host (possibly Cindy or another regular co-host)]

I won't even take me out because I'm so disappointed.

[Woody Overton]

About.

[Co-host (possibly Cindy or another regular co-host)]

Us not getting a re indictment and murder conviction for Brooks Cleary because it really s with me, right?

[Woody Overton]

And I stood on that and I still stand on it.

[Co-host (possibly Cindy or another regular co-host)]

And the one thing never go away is a merge charge. When this dumb bitch from Cobb county who did go back and listen to the series, she promised everything in the world and which was the greatest we.

[Woody Overton]

Could ask for at the time, then.

[Co-host (possibly Cindy or another regular co-host)]

She didn't deliver classically. Then I she didn't know she was being recorded. The last two episodes were dropped for and it was said in the show notes update on Bradley and then Haley. Anyway, she spent over an hour her life, her minions lives trying to defend.

[Woody Overton]

Why they're not going for murder.

[Co-host (possibly Cindy or another regular co-host)]

They call it double jeopardy. It's absolutely not.

[Woody Overton]

We'll deal with that next week.

[Co-host (possibly Cindy or another regular co-host)]

But a lot of y' all were pissed off because it wasn't just Bradley. And I get that you new listeners not a lifers have been with us through Ms. Barbara Blunt's first Courtney Cocos Mary Pooh shows Ms. Womack's all these cases that I've solved or gotten the families as much as they want it, you haven't been there for that. And so when you get an episode you think it's just going to be Bradley. Well guess what, I'm working like a million cases and every family deserves justice. And Bradley and Austin, oh my God, we're so close.

[Woody Overton]

We're so close.

[Co-host (possibly Cindy or another regular co-host)]

But don't get upset when you hear about somebody else's case because they're hurting just bad or worse or I don't.

[Woody Overton]

Think it'd be compared to the situation but they're hurting.

[Co-host (possibly Cindy or another regular co-host)]

And then there's so many more at least thousand now I'm not making that number up. Thousand cases that I have people submitted.

[Woody Overton]

To me because they saw me on Dateline or they saw me on go.

[Co-host (possibly Cindy or another regular co-host)]

Case Files or wherever and they want me to solve their and I've, I've talked about it before. Even inmates in prison on the illegal cell phones send me their and I'm like I can't work them all. And Bradley and Austin's case never would even touched it had it not been for the people in burning Paris and Morgan Baggage followers etc blowing me up.

[Woody Overton]

Blow me up.

[Co-host (possibly Cindy or another regular co-host)]

And finally one night sat down.

[Woody Overton]

This reason I touched not because they were blowing me up.

[Co-host (possibly Cindy or another regular co-host)]

I sat down, I read it was such an egregious case of law enforcement era and more. It was Bradley at the time then that morphed into Austin and you know it is what it is. The the one thing that people don't.

[Woody Overton]

Understand listen to podcast. Sometimes if you're lucky it'll get solved right away. Let's back it up.

[Co-host (possibly Cindy or another regular co-host)]

I'm pretty much know the case is solved but solving it and proving to be on a reasonable doubt in court two different things and that's what's totally.

[Woody Overton]

Happening in this case.

[Co-host (possibly Cindy or another regular co-host)]

What throw it into the gumbo as.

[Woody Overton]

We say in Louisiana.

[Co-host (possibly Cindy or another regular co-host)]

Ask more see how it floats is.

[Woody Overton]

The bad Police work, the. The.

[Co-host (possibly Cindy or another regular co-host)]

Then you start on real life or crime.

[Woody Overton]

We bring it into the main frame.

[Co-host (possibly Cindy or another regular co-host)]

Of everybody in the world because we're in 167 countries, way beyond Vernon Parish, way beyond all the listeners we already had. And you throw it into the gumbo. All these different people are to get mentioned now and stuff which have nothing.

[Woody Overton]

To do with Bradley Olson's death.

[Co-host (possibly Cindy or another regular co-host)]

But I let it flow because I call it stirring the pot. Stirring the gumbo. You got to stir that brew for like two and a half hours to get good and dark brown, almost black.

[Woody Overton]

Before you add everything in.

[Co-host (possibly Cindy or another regular co-host)]

Right? And you could do that. And I opened a tip line and I get tips every single day. 313 rlrc tip. Problem with that is I gotta follow tips no matter how crazy they are or how legit they are. I gotta follow em even though I'm.

[Woody Overton]

Not in law enforcement.

[Co-host (possibly Cindy or another regular co-host)]

More I've got to run it to. I can't run it anymore. Or run it to. You can't stop running it. And I'm at all that. Right. And so I'm also at the point where I've been in Burnham Paris. I've been inside the Burn in Paris jail. And I can't tell you about it. I wish I could. It'd be great. It'd be great media if I was, you know, making money off this other. I'd be making money if I dropped the podcast about a turd falling a toilet. But national sponsors are going to pay me. I'm talking about Austin and Bradley's case.

[Woody Overton]

The.

[Co-host (possibly Cindy or another regular co-host)]

If I could tell you what I went inside the jail for, it'd be love. But I can't because of personal reasons. Not because I don't want you to hear it because of personal reasons.

[Woody Overton]

Meaning that never going to do anything to up an investigation ever. I'm looking for the long game.

[Co-host (possibly Cindy or another regular co-host)]

The long game like Courtney Coco's. In the end, the prosecutor came out and said, I'll make you a deal. I'll give you the whole case file.

[Woody Overton]

If you don't say anything or whatever.

[Co-host (possibly Cindy or another regular co-host)]

I'm like, I don't need your deal. I already gave you Right. And we got the murder convictions. But he and I are actually cool now. But I wish I could tell y'.

[Woody Overton]

All.

[Co-host (possibly Cindy or another regular co-host)]

I wish I could tell Morgan Baggott more than anyone in the face of earth. I wish I could tell Morgan Baggot how much I love her, how much I appreciate her, how much I understand her pain. Because homicides are like migraines. Everybody knows what it is unless you're experiencing it or the loss from it, you really don't know. And. But I have to cut Morgan back because I'm at the point where I don't want to lie.

[Woody Overton]

I'm not going to lie to her.

[Co-host (possibly Cindy or another regular co-host)]

And I don't want to lie to.

[Woody Overton]

Her, and I'm not going to lie to her.

[Co-host (possibly Cindy or another regular co-host)]

And I also just can't take anything more from Morgan Baggott.

[Woody Overton]

She.

[Co-host (possibly Cindy or another regular co-host)]

She keeps sending us, great, but I can't take it because I already know where I'm at. I could take it, but that means I have to get off where I'm at, and that needs to be done by the cops. Right? I give you this on a silver platter. This is X, Y and Z. But here's all the ABCDs around the platter. Y' all gotta figure that out, because I don't have time nor the energy to.

[Woody Overton]

To do it.

[Co-host (possibly Cindy or another regular co-host)]

I mean, I got.

[Woody Overton]

I got to make a living, right?

[Co-host (possibly Cindy or another regular co-host)]

They got however many cops, however many detectives, they got the NCIC computers. They got everything in the world to exclude some. If I had access to what they're doing, I could exclude it in half.

[Woody Overton]

A second, a lot of this.

[Co-host (possibly Cindy or another regular co-host)]

But when I give it to them.

[Woody Overton]

Or they might already have it on.

[Co-host (possibly Cindy or another regular co-host)]

The silver platter, but I got it. You just a defense attorney will say, but didn't you get this call?

[Woody Overton]

Didn't you get this call? Didn't you give this call? And it might be.

[Co-host (possibly Cindy or another regular co-host)]

It's a shooter from John F. Kennedy. The shooter on the grassy knoll that killed the President.

[Woody Overton]

He's the one that murdered Bradley.

[Co-host (possibly Cindy or another regular co-host)]

And if you don't follow it up, you don't at least make an attempt to follow it up, guess what happens? Defense attorney has a field day with it, and they run with it. That's their job. Love them, like them or hate them, that's their job. I would love to tell y' all where I'm at, because it's beautiful where I'm at.

[Woody Overton]

All right?

[Co-host (possibly Cindy or another regular co-host)]

I can tell you this.

[Woody Overton]

The case is being worked not only by me, period. And Morgan. Love you.

[Co-host (possibly Cindy or another regular co-host)]

Hang in there, sweetie.

[Woody Overton]

Yeah.

[Co-host (possibly Cindy or another regular co-host)]

Bradley would never got justice. Austin would totally been written off as an overdose.

[Woody Overton]

I don't know.

[Co-host (possibly Cindy or another regular co-host)]

I'm just rambling, y', all, but just hang in there.

[Woody Overton]

When I get quiet is when the bad people need to get scared because I'm not speaking for a reason. Okay? Just the truth and love, y' all all.

[Co-host (possibly Cindy or another regular co-host)]

Now back to this week. Worst week for podcasts in the history of the world.

[Woody Overton]

The Christmas week and New Year's week.

[Co-host (possibly Cindy or another regular co-host)]

So what I'm going to do is.

[Woody Overton]

Play one of my. I think it was like my second.

[Co-host (possibly Cindy or another regular co-host)]

Or third episode ever did. What happened to Jackie Old school. So you can hear how much more our production is produced and our sound and everything else. Just old Woody Overton telling old cop.

[Woody Overton]

Story and how I pretty much came to age as a detective.

[Co-host (possibly Cindy or another regular co-host)]

Fucking great story if you love true crime.

[Woody Overton]

And actually her daughter reached out to me and I'll tell you all about that next week. The. The baby that's mentioned the story and she was a baby, like a toddler at the time, like less than a year old.

[Co-host (possibly Cindy or another regular co-host)]

But what happened to Jackie on play? This is three parts.

[Woody Overton]

Gonna play it the next three days.

[Co-host (possibly Cindy or another regular co-host)]

Y' all eating turkey and shopping and getting drunk and want to kill your family members or want to make love.

[Woody Overton]

To your family members.

[Co-host (possibly Cindy or another regular co-host)]

I don't know what you're doing, but I hope you're being blessed. But what happened to Jackie? Old school. Real life, real crime. Let me say this. Chase Tyler band.

[Woody Overton]

Chase Tyler, I love you.

[Co-host (possibly Cindy or another regular co-host)]

He does our opening and closing music.

[Woody Overton]

And he did it. And he didn't have to do it. He's Louisiana legend. Love him to death.

[Co-host (possibly Cindy or another regular co-host)]

Lifers love you to death. Patreon convicts. I hope you loved your Cajun Night Before Christmas. I hope all you lifers love twas.

[Woody Overton]

The Night Before Christmas.

[Co-host (possibly Cindy or another regular co-host)]

Now with that, I'm gonna shut the F up.

[Woody Overton]

Love y'. All.

[Co-host (possibly Cindy or another regular co-host)]

Happy holidays. Enjoy the series. Please Continue calling your tips 313RRC TIPS. No tip is too unimportant. You don't hear from me.

[Woody Overton]

The MFers that murdered Bradley, murdered Austin and up the case, they're the ones that are having a bad Christmas Eve and Christmas.

[Co-host (possibly Cindy or another regular co-host)]

Even at their best moment on Christmas.

[Woody Overton]

Eve and Christmas, they're still having the back of their mind, Woody Overton is coming and I were working the night shift and we rotated out detectives when your week came up to be on nights during the weekdays, Monday through Friday, the regular detectives came out at 8 o' clock in the morning and we would come out at, I think it's like three o' clock in the evening. During the week part of it, it would split from like 3 to 11 and 11 to 6, whatever it was. And we would only call each other out if it was something major. Otherwise, if it's just like a burglary or a rape or something like that that we could handle ourselves. We wouldn't bother each other on the late part. Now on the weekends, Chuck would work the day part and I would work the Nights. And I liked working nights anyway because that's when all the good stuff happened, right? So basically I was covering 12 hours, if you want to say, from sundown to sunrise. And Chuck would cover the daytime part. And it was on a Sunday afternoon around I guess about 3, 3:30. And I was about to go 108 anyway, with 108 on duty. And Chuck called, he said, hey man, we got a body and hold it. And I said, what's up with it? And he said that a male called 911 and said he found his daughter dead in her bedroom. And he said it's probably gonna be an overdose or something. So but we need to roll over there and check it out. So. All right. So I was living in northern end of Livingston Parish. So this house was in, in between Holden and Albany, a real rural area, probably 35, 40 minutes away from me. And then Chuck had been working something on the extreme west side of the parish. He was having to leave that to go to this call also. So we knew it was going to take us a little while to get there. But naturally I went as fast as I could. And when I pulled up, I saw Acadian ambulance was backed up to the door. Now let me describe this. Once I pulled up, this was a trailer sat on a big yard, probably 5 or 10 acres, something like that. There were no neighbors directly across the street, no neighbors directly on either side. There was woods on the side of the cleared lot and the trailer sat horizontally with the road if you're facing it. So you pull in, it's a gravel driveway. And it was pretty well kept place, you know, didn't look like dopers live there or it was a shithole or anything like that. But I see Chuck is there, he's getting out of his vehicle. And I called in 259, 201 is 1097. And I get out and they are shutting the doors on the ambulance. As I'm walking up, I said, what are you doing? I thought it was a dead body. And they said, no, we thought it was a dead body too. And when we got here, a male came out and told us, said, I don't know what you're doing here. She doesn't need an ambulance, she needs a hearse. She's dead. They said, well, we have to go in and check. And they went in and ran what we call a strip. And that's what I hook them up to the machine to see if there's any sign of life. And well, guess what? She had a heartbeat. Even though she wasn't breathing at the time, the paramedic says. So they started to work on her and, you know, got her loaded up and Chuck's like, okay, where are y' all going? North Oaks. And they said, yeah, in North Oaks. You've heard me talk about it in previous episodes. It was the closest hospital, but it was in Tangible Hoa parish and probably 20 minutes away from where we were located at this time. So they get an ams, they leave more like, we'll be over there in a little while. And there's a male standing on the porch and I'll describe him for you. He probably was like 50, 55, I don't know. I'm guessing. It was hard for me to judge age back then because now I'm that age. Right. He was an older male, balding, on top of probably 5 foot 9 maybe, really heavy set, big, thick Coke bottle glasses. The kind of when you look at somebody in eyes and their eyes look big, you know, when you're looking at the glasses, I mean, they were thick. And he was in blue jeans and tennis shoes and what we call a wife beater shirt, which is the. The white sleeveless T shirt. And so we go up and say, hey, I'm Detective Overton. It's Detective Watts. You know. Are you the person who called it in? He said, yeah, I did. He said, I don't know why y' all here. She's dead. And I said, well, obviously she's not dead. They found a heartbeat. They're taken to the hospital. I said, but who are you? And he told me his name. I'm just going to use part of it. Told me his name was Boudreaux. And that's a good, strong Cajun name, right? And I said, well, what happened? And he said, I came home from work this morning at 6:00'. Clock. I said, well, where do you work? He said, I worked a night shift in a fabrication shop. He said, I'm the foreman there. I said, all right. He said, I came home from work at 6 and I went into her room and I said, who's her? And he said, it's Jackie and I'm not going to use the last name. And said, I went into Jackie's room and I walked up on her and she had the covers pulled up to her neck and she was sleeping. He said, so I went out and I shut the door and I went to bed. He said, when I woke up, I heard the baby crying. And I said, what baby? He said, jackie's got the two and a half year old and the two and a half year old. The baby has its own room. And that's why I'm not going to use names, y', all, because I don't know where this kid is nowadays. But he said, so I go down the hallway and open the door, and I see the baby's still in his crib in the room. And then. So I opened Jackie's door, and she was on the floor and she was dead. And I'm like, okay, so how do you know she was dead? He said, I just know she was dead. I said, did you touch her? Did you? He said, I never touched her. I never touched her. I said, all right. And I said, so you just know she was dead? He said, that's right. And Now Chuck said, Mr. Boudreaux, if you would excuse us for a minute. And he took me to the side and he said, look, he called 911 and told the dispatchers to send a hearse because his daughter was dead. I'm thinking that's kind of fucking strange, right? I mean, if you call 911 saying, send a hearse. I mean, right away I was just like, I had a bad feeling, right?

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And so we go back and we're talking to him. Let me explain the trailer. When you walk in the front door of the trailer, immediately to the left was a bedroom that had a bathroom. It was a master bedroom. It was a bedroom with had a bathroom in it. And Boudreaux said that was his room. And then directly in front of you and to your right was a kitchen with a half bar, you know, with stools on it. And then there was a back door directly in the back end of the kitchen that you could see. It had a window on it. And then as you go to the right you're in the living room area and it was, I mean it was a well kept place, it was clean. And then you look down to your right and there's a hallway and you go down that hallway and the first door on the left was Jackie's room. And the second door on the left was the baby's room. And then there was a bathroom at the end of the hallway. So again, we're talking to Boudreaux and I said, boudreaux? I said, you know, what do you think happened? He said, I don't know. She's had a problem, pill addiction for a long time. He said, I guess she overdosed. I'm like, okay. So I went and got my camera out of the car and came back in, had him sit tight and Chuck was talking to him a little bit. And I went ahead and photographed inside of the residence. And I had him show me where he found her on the floor. And there was a blanket on the floor, a blue, like cheap blanket from Walmart. And you could tell the bed had been slept in. But I really wasn't paying much attention. I mean, I was shooting a couple photographs, but she's not there. And I mean, there's no puddles of blood or anything like that. There's no signs of a struggle. I looked at Boudreaux while we were talking to him and I didn't see any obvious scratches or anything on his face or on his arms. And he had on a wife beater shirt. So I had. I could see plenty. And anyway, so we just got the recorder out and did like we normally do and say, hey, my name's Woody Overton. I'm a detective, Lipstick Parish Sheriff's Office. Present with me or Detective Chuck Watts. And we're at such and such address and we're going to be taking a tape recorded statement. Mr. Boudreaux said, Today's date and today's time and said, Mr. Boudreau, we responded here because you called 91 1. He says, Correct. And I said, what did you tell 911? He said, I told him they need to send somebody, that my stepdaughter was dead. I said, I said, you tell them that they need to send someone or they need to send a hearse. He said, I might have said hearse. He said, I mean, what does it matter? She was dead. I said, okay, and then tell me what happened. And he went through the story again that he got home and he went to Jackie's room to check on her. And he not only did he. He didn't just crack the door open and check on her, which I guess if you're going to check on someone, that that could have been reasonable. But he stated, he said, I walked up to her bed, she had the covers pulled up to her neck and she was sleeping. And he said, and then I went to bed and I woke up and I heard the baby crying. And then I went to Jackie's room and she was on the floor and she was dead. And again, I locked him into the statement. I said, I mean, you didn't touch her? You didn't try to give her CPR or anything like that? He said, no, she was dead. What am I going to do that for? I said, all right. And then meanwhile, we're sitting there and taking a tape statement and finishing it up about the ambulance coming, et cetera. And I'm looking up and I see this photograph of this beautiful, beautiful blonde headed girl. And I said, is that Jackie? And he said, yeah, that's her. And I'm like, I'm talking about this girl was fine, right? I said, how old is she? And he said, She's 22. I said, okay. I said, who's the other lady in the photo? He said, that's her mama. I said, that's your wife? And he said, yes. Where is she at? He said, well, that's kind of a strange story. I said, well, tell me where she at, you know? He said, well, she's in the burn unit in the Baton Rouge General Hospital in Baton Rouge. I said, what happened to her? He said, well, we're not really sure, but she was out back on trash pile, I think, trying to light the trash pile on fire. And she burned her legs up. It's kind of being evasive about it. And I'm thinking, well, maybe she was cooking meth or something, I don't know, but. And I said, okay, so how long she been burning for? And he said, for about three weeks. I'm thinking, damn right. And then so I'm looking at Jack and I'm thinking, like, God, I mean, this, y'. All. She was like, she could have been a model and for Sports Illustrated, swimsuit model or Victoria's Secret, whatever. She was absolutely drop dead gorgeous. And it just struck pause to me, I was thinking to myself that, you know, why would you go, you come in, you worked all night, you come in and you're going to walk all the way down that hallway and then open that door and walk up to her and stand over her. And then I know he did this because he told me unsolicited that she had the covers pulled up to her neck. And that just really struck me as strange, first of all, that he would go beyond, why are you the hell are you checking on a 22 year old, right? I mean, and if you're going to check on Her. Can't you just crack the door and see that she's sleeping? Especially she's got the covers up to her neck. And that unsolicited statement of the covers up to the neck just. Just rang wrong with me. And the fact that he would go into her room, but I mean, I didn't have anything to go on. So we're just locking him into his original statement. And it is what it is. You know, that's. I mean, that's. That's what he had to say. And we didn't have any evidence or anything else. And so we thanked him. And I said, Mr. Boudreaux, I said, I'm. If it's okay, I'm gonna leave my car here. We got to go to North Oaks Hospital. And on the way back, if we need to talk to you, can we talk to you? He said, no. He said, I got to go to work. I said, what do you mean? I said, you're not coming to the hospital? And then he said, no, man. He said, I got to go to work. I got to work tonight. And I said, Mr. Boudreaux, I said, she's on the way to the hospital. Doesn't look like she's going to make it. I mean, what about telling her mom? He said, I'll tell her later on. He said, I got to go to work. I said, well, can you give me your work phone number if we need to contact you, I'll call you. He said, I don't know why you be calling me, but. But he gave me the phone number. I said, regardless. I said, I'm going to leave my car here because it's out of the way for logistical reasons. It'd be easier for Chuck to drop me off here than it would be for me to leave my car somewhere else. He said, that's fine. So Chuck and I leave and we get in the car and he's driving. We're going to North Oaks Hospital. And I'm like, dude, something's not right. And he's like. He said, what do you mean? And I said, why would you go to check on your 22 year old? And if you do, why not just stop at the door? Why go in? And why tell us that she had the covers up to her neck? I mean, he said it several times, like, yeah. I mean, he said, I get that, but the air conditioner could have been on. It could have been cold. He said, look, Woods. And he called me woods or Woodrow. He said, he looks. Look, woods, not every case is going to Be a homicide. I said, dude, I'm not saying it's a homicide. I'm just saying it's strange because 911 says, Send a hearse. And then when Acadian gets there, he says, I don't know why y' all here. She needs a hearse, not an ambulance. And I said, it just doesn't jive with me, you know? And he said, well, we'll go right out here and see what the deal is. So it takes about 15, 20 minutes to get to the hospital, and then we have to go around back, and then we have to go to the security desk and badge our way through. Badge means show your ID and sign in, tell them who you're here to see. And we get access to the emergency room. And they were actually very busy for Sunday afternoon, I would say there was a lot of activity, you know, doctors and nurses running in and out of rooms. But it went to the charge desk and said, hey, we're here to see Jackie. I'm not going to say the last name. And they said, well, she's in that room over there, room three. But they're working on her and you can't go in yet. She said, but let me go check. So we waited, and then she came back out and she said, no. The doctor said, y' all can't go in yet. I said, all right. So we went and waited outside the room. And then about five, six months later, this doctor comes out. He's about six foot one, he's probably mid-30s. You know, typical deal. The white coat on the scrubs, on the stethoscope around his neck. And he looks at us and it looks down at our badges and guns. And right away you could tell he was no friend of the police, right? And he's like, what do you want? I said, what do you mean, what we want? We gotta girl who's probably going to die, and we're here to work the case. And he said, well, there's nothing for you to work. I said, what do you mean? He said, this is a drug overdose and she is not going to make it. I said, well, doc, we need to get in and photograph. He said, you're not going in. She is a drug head and she has overdosed and she is not going to make it. And this okay? I said, well, I mean, can you tell me anything about her appearance? This? I said, did you examine her for injuries? He said, I know how to do my job. Don't tell me how to do my job. I said, I know how to do my job too, and I need to know if there are any type of injuries or anything to her. He said, I looked at her and she doesn't have any injuries. She's a dope head and that's it. And you can just leave because you're not getting in. And Chuck tapped me on the shoulder, said, come on. And we went over in the corner. He said, listen, dude, he said, you can't force your way in. The doc says we can't go in, we can't go in. And he says it's a drug overdose. It's a drug overdose and that's it, that's a wrap. I'm like, well, shit doesn't sit right with me. And I said, we're not even going to photograph her. He said, well, if there's a question or something, then they'll order an autopsy. And after, you know, they examine her and everything. I'm sorry. All right. I mean, you're the senior partner, you know, right? Now on Sunday evenings, after we'd worked the long weekend nights, Chuck would get off at 6pm and I would cover it till 6am that morning. So it's already his getting off time. And he took the doctor for his word that it was an overdose. And what would generally happen, Chuck would go home and like to unwind, have a couple what he calls cool pops, which he drank Coors Light. And I know he had a hookup and he never shared it with me. One of the local beer men that gave him. I didn't drink Coors Light anyway, but the local beerman that gave him, you know, I don't know if Cord Light that was left over in stores something. I just know he had a hell of a hookup because they always had cases of course light. But anyway, so this is kind of his chill time and he's been doing this like 25 plus years. And I'm like, well, you know what? I just have to temper myself down and, and go with the, the voice experience. And so we're driving back over the thing. I said, do you just don't think it's something that's funny about it? He said, he said was not every case is a homicide. And I said, well, yeah, I said I would like to at least seen. And he said, well, you know, the doctor wasn't going to let it happen. He made that obvious. So he dropped me off and back at the car at Boudreau's house in Boudreaux vehicle. I gotta tell you, he had a truck that was Parked there earlier and it was gone. So I got in my car and I drove back and I went to the sheriff's office. And I'm working my night shift, right? Working some reports, writing up, actually writing up the report on this incident. And at six o' clock the next morning, I was off. And the day shift picked it up. Or they would go on call. They didn't come out to 8 o', clock, but they would go on call if something major happened, right? And I had court that morning anyway, as I did on most days, whether it was motion suppress or problem calls, hearings on some arrest I made or whatever. So basically, four days a week, in the morning I had court period. And so I went to court that morning and then went back home. Probably got in around noon and took a little nap and got up and then it was the next morning. Actually around noon on Tuesday, Chuck calls me now we're off Monday and Tuesday after working the. The night shift. You're off. And he calls me, said, he said, man, we gotta, we gotta roll. We gotta roll. I said, what's, what's wrong? He said, the chief of the intensive care unit at North Oaks called and wanted to talk to the detectives that worked the case on Jackie. I said. And he said, well, they. They punched me through to him. And he said that. The chief doctor asked me, said, are you detective work this case? Yes, I did. And he said, my partner, Woody Overton, I did. He said, were y' all coming to work it? And he said, work what? And he said, this girl has been severely traumatized and y' all need to come out here and work it. Nobody's been here since. She's been in intensive care for two days. And I mean, this is serious. I mean, law enforcement needs to look at it. I mean, he said, who do I have to call? I got to call your sheriff? He said, no, you don't have to call a sheriff. He said, we were told that it was an overdose. And he said, well, this girl's got a lot of injuries to her. And I said, oh, here we go. And he said, she's got a lot of injuries and you need to get out here. He said, I've worked, doctor, I looked it over today myself. And I. Sorry. I told him, I said, I told you, man. And he said, just come on. And he said, just meet me in Hammond at the hospital. So I'm like an hour away. He said, well, I got to get dressed and everything also. So we meet back up at the hospital, we sign in this time, we Go upstairs to the intensive care unit and security there also. You have to get let in. And we got let in, and the doctor came out and he. We introduced ourselves. Detective Overton, Detective Watts, and can you tell us what's going on? He said, why don't y' all tell me what's going on? I said, what's going on is. We responded to the residence. The stepfather said the girl was dead. She was already loaded into the Acadian ambulance when we got there. They said they found a sign of life. They brought her to the hospital. We took a statement from the stepfather, and we came out to the hospital, to the emergency room to work the case. And the emergency room doctor told us it was a drug overdose and that was it. And I asked to see her, and he said no. I asked did he examine her for injuries? And he said he did, and she didn't have any. He said, well, I don't know if he was blind that day or what, because she's got a stage. He didn't say shit. Ton. That's my language. He says, she has a ton of injuries, and they need to be documented. Something needs to be done about this. I'm like, okay. So we go in to the room, and she is hooked up on the breathing machine and all the stuff that's keeping her alive. And it was just sad. See? Such a beautiful, beautiful young lady. You know, the machines are breathing for, et cetera. But I'm looking at her, and right away I could see bruising on her face. And I don't know how to explain this, but the. Anyway, the doc said, we'll do it step by step. He said, I'll show you every injury that I found. He said, what happened was when they brought her up to icu, they cleaned her up, meaning they wiped her down and got her hooked up to all the machines, et cetera. He said that would have been sometime in. Way in the middle of the night on Sunday. And he said, in Monday. No, they didn't know. We didn't know she was going to live or not. We didn't think she was going to, even though she was on the machine. And he said, and then I came in today, and I'm making rounds, and I go in and look at her, and I see these bruises and scratches. And I'm like, what? And he said, and then I started looking, and I had the nurses come in, and we went over her body, and she's got a lot of injuries. So I said, well, Doc, we need to see every one of Them. And it's now. I said, on top of that, we need to call a sane nurse. And y'. All. Sane nurse is a sexual assault nurse. A nurse is trained in collecting rape kits, basically, okay? And it's a process, even when the victim or possible victim can cooperate and the nurse does the process, right? But now we have a body on the table, it can't respond or anything else or move over. So we had to call for the same nurse. And meanwhile, and that takes a while, they're on call, and they had to come from wherever. And meanwhile, we started to photograph the injuries to the body, and we started top of the head. The doctor would point out the scratch or the bruise or whatever, and we're taking the pictures. And I asked him, I said, doc, I said, what's, you know, the. The bruising on here? That doctor said there was nothing. No scratches. He didn't say specifically no scratch, no bruises. He said there were no injuries. And he said, well, I can tell you that these are fresh because, you know, so probably in the last 48 hours before she got here. He said, because they're still changing in color. I'm like, fuck me, man. You know, we're so screwed. So fucking screwed. Because a defense attorney is going to have a field day no matter what. Now we're as law enforcement because we didn't press our way into that emergency room. Doctor and photographer or whatever, you know, all the defense attorneys got to say now as well, hell, she was in the hospital, and somebody raped her and beat her in the hospital. You can't prove my client did anything. You can't prove that she didn't have these injuries or that she had these injuries before she got to the hospital. Matter of fact, you disprove that fact because you wrote a report that says the doctor says he examined her and she had no injuries, and it's a drug overdose. And so I'm sick to my stomach. I mean, I'm absolutely sick to my stomach because this girl had 57 different injuries to her body. And I'm going to just try to describe some of them to you. There were different sizes of bruising. Some maybe could have been from fingers, you know, like grabbing. Somebody grabbing a hold of you. But then there were some that were bigger and which could be evidence of being slammed into something. Now, and scratches, I don't really get the scratches part because it wasn't like deep fingernail gouges, if you will, but more like surface scratches. And so just she had them from head to toe. Now she didn't have the scratching on her breast or I guess because she had a shirt on is what I'm figuring the on her breast or on her back. But she had bruising in the areas just variously. There was no rhyme or reason to. They were spread out. But she had scratches on her lower legs, she has scratches on her arms and you know, and the bruising throughout and I'm just, you know, on the back of her legs and on, just, just everywhere, man. I mean it was a lot of pictures. And so the sane nurse, the sexual assault nurse shows up. I think it stands for sexual assault nurse examiner or something like that saying in. She takes her time and she works the rape kit. And I mean that's the other thing. The I said doc, we're going to need to process for DNA. We want to swab all these bruises and all these scratch marks. He said it ain't going to do any good. And I said why? And he said because they clean her down, they would have rinsed her from head to toe before they attached her to all the instruments in here. That's one of the steps of the process is cleanse it, cleaning the body so you can tell if more injuries or if there's something they missed in an emergency room or whatever. I said well we have to try. Yeah. And he said well it ain't going to do any good because I can tell you they do a thorough washing of the body and as a matter of fact her hair when we were there that time was, was still kind of damp. And he said that was from him washing, you know, washing her down. So the same nurse processes are and any other includes everything from vaginal swabs to combing her pubic hairs. And so we're just praying we're going to get lucky on something. Obviously I'm thinking rape and rape that got out of hand and that's, that's my mindset. I mean she's, she's beautiful, she's a 10. And part of the mindset is Boudreaux was wife's been in the hospital for three weeks and he's, he's going in to check on this 22 or 23 year old, however old she was when he gets in from work and that didn't make any sense. I'm thinking Boudreaux may went in and some foul play got started in the rape or whatever, but who knows right? We're so fucking far behind the eight ball at this point. We are screwed from a law enforcement standpoint. Now we got to play catch up. So the same nurse does her thing and we collect the rape kit and the rape kit has. We have to go back to the sheriff's office and it has to be refrigerated until we submit it to the crime lab, which we took all our evidence weekly on Wednesday mornings to the Louisiana State Police crime lab. We had a standing appointment at 10 o' clock on Wednesdays.

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[Woody Overton]

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He, he sits back and he had a dip in his mouth and, and he's leaning back, said, well, boys, tell me what happened? And so we tell him. And, you know, he sits there and he's kind of, he never got mad. I never heard him raise his voice or anything, but you could tell he wasn't happy. And he said, well, we're kind of fucking screwed now, aren't we? And I said, yes, sir, we are. And he said, well, you got to work it, you got to run with it. What's your plans? And I told him, I said, we need to get a search warrant, we need to go hit that house, we need to get A search warrant for the premises. We need to get a search warrant for his. His body to look for scratches or anything like that, work it like a homicide. He said, the girl gonna make it? And I said, no. And that's one thing I forgot to tell y'. All. The doctor said, there's no way this. She was gonna live. He said, well, get it, get it. Get your warrant and get it signed, and we'll get a team of us and we'll go out there and handle. He said, but first of all, we got to go downstairs and talk to Kearney. Now, Kearney was the Chief Deputy, and Mr. Kearney Foster, who is the absolute best I ever knew, and I like to consider myself be a part of his protege, good, bad or indifferent. I have such mad respect and love for the man. But I. Kearney. Mr. Kearney is a hard ass. And he would holler and yell and scream, and rightfully so. He said, we got to go downstairs and tell Kearney. And they said, y' all come on. And so we went down there and went in. Mr. Kearney was sitting behind his desk, and that's where I talked about getting called on the carpet whenever I screw something up. Well, that was right there in front of his desk. And he'd tear your ass up. But, you know, when he got done, he would give you some constructive criticism and you just move on, right? He didn't hold a grudge or anything. It was just business. And so we told him and he just. He. He would sit back and put his fingers together in a steeple formation, and his chair, man, he was pissed. He said, I can't believe y' all didn't get in there and get photographs of her when she was in emergency. Mr. Kearney said, I don't give a damn what that doctor said. And he's right. I mean, nothing I could say. I just shut up. And Chuck. Oh, my God, I feel bad for him because Chuck just absolutely. I mean, he had been working Mr. Kearney for a long time, and he knew what was coming. Remember when we had to go down there and Chuck's kind of. I don't call him pale skinned, but he's light skinned, man, when. When he just. He was just as sick about it as I was, but he knew Kearney was going to go off and. And he did, rightfully so. And so we go and have Tina Stafford, who was best secretary in the world, and she was a pro at banging out search warrants, et cetera, and told her the facts of the case, and she banged out the search warrant. Then we had to go find a judge to sign it. And you get sworn in front of the judge and you say these are facts, you swear they're the facts, blah, blah, blah. Yes, I do. And he signs the warrant, search warrant. And then we go back upstairs, we get a team together. Now, surprisingly, Mr. Kearney was up there, and this is late in the evening now. Y' all a member of the detectives get off at 4. But we had the two night shift detectives, which were Brian Paul Smith was out, and Brian Paul and I went to the academy together. And then we worked the street together, and then we were detective partners together and et cetera. Just at my time. He was one of my best friends, and I think Ken McMorris was his partner. So they were there to work with his. Ken's another dear friend and a great cop. So we had Brian Paul and Ken. Robert Ardon, another. I don't think Robert had been a detectives that long, but he had been like a uniform patrol supervisor for a long time, et cetera. He was there. That was three. Chuck and I was five. And then Mr. Kearney wanted to go to this scene. He said, I want to come. He said, I want. I want to see. You know, I guess he was thinking it could turn into a pretty big scandal right up so that I'd never. Mr. Kearney never come out on the scene with us ever, that. But I hadn't been in detective that long. And so we get together and we're like he said, tell us about the residence. And I described it, and we were going to do a knock as opposed to no knock, because I didn't see any guns in the house when we were there before. Didn't mean he didn't have one. But ran his criminal history. Boudreaux had nothing, not even a traffic ticket. So we made the plan, approached the residence in case he tried to run. Ken was going to go to the back door and Brian Paul and we were going to approach the residence and gain entry. If he wasn't there, we were going to take the door and do our search warrant anyway. But we knew that he was working the night shift at that fab shop. And so I called and just to see if he'd answer the phone, and I blocked the number. And I called and he answered. I guess it was his day off. And so I hung up. And I'm like, he's there. And Kearney said, when we hit it, I want you and Brian Paul and Ken and Chuck to go through everything he Said, I'm going to. No, it was. He wanted Chuck with him. And Mr. Kearney said, Chuck and I are going to interview Boudreaux. He said, I want y' all to work the residence. You photograph everything. You take anything that looks even like it could be possibly involved with any type of sexual thing or anything like that. And he said, we would need the sheets and stuff off that bed and just, you know, just look for anything. And he said, we're going to talk to him. We'll do the search of his body to see if he's got any scratches and all that. And so I said, let's roll. So we roll over there and pull into the yard and it's not dark yet. It was still daylight outside. And we pull in and we go up and knock on the door. Boudreaux opens it and he's standing there and his wife beat her T shirt in blue jeans. And he's looking at me. And his eyes were a little bit bigger when he saw us. And then Mr. Kearney and. And Chuck and Robert behind me and all the police cars in his driveway, his eyes were a little bit bigger behind those thick, thick glasses. So I'm gonna stop it right there for this week. This is just a really strange case, y'. All, if you think you know where it's going, you have no idea. And but because it's so long, I'm gonna stop it right there. So now just continue to listen next week. I don't think it'll go into three parts, but it's just absolutely one of the most fascinating cases. Fascinating chains of events on fuck ups. Weird shit as far as a criminal case goes. So what happened to Jackie? Tune in again next week. And I'm Woody Overton. You host a Real Life Real Crime the podcast. Until next week or ever. Don't let me catch you down on murder by you. Okay, y', all, I want to make some announcements and I'm going to start with just saying thank y' all to everybody for listening and liking and sharing and subscribing Real Life Real Crime the podcast. As you know, if you listen to the episode I dropped, we made the finals in the podcast awards and two out of the three categories we were nominated in, we made it in drama and storytelling and then society and culture. So excited, so pleased, so stoked. You lifers are the best fans in the world and I love and appreciate y' all just awesomeness what it is. We well over 200000 downloads now. The number's growing a lot every day. And it's because y' all are liking and sharing us, and I really appreciate it. And I'm gonna ask again, because I didn't know how important it was as far as people being able to find you when they Google, et cetera. But if you haven't, will you please take a second and go to itunes and look up Real Life, Real Crime and leave us a review on itunes? And I don't know why it's itunes, y', all, because I on the. I have the list of all the different platforms that we're on and what. Who downloads the most, and itunes is like sixth or seventh on the list. That's where the reviews are, and it would help us grow. And I appreciate it if y' all just take the time and go there and leave a review. Good, bad, or indifferent, doesn't matter. But it'll help us and remember our social media. And my favorite page is it's the private group. We have Real Life, Real Crime. Friends, fans and crew. S K R E W e. We passed 1900 members this week, and it's growing. We'll probably be over 2000 by this time next week. So y' all go check it out. The Dream Team moderators will get you approved, and they're awesome. We love our Dream Team. They do so much. Not only do they approve things through the crew page where they help promote Real Life, Real Crime, and, you know, they find their promos and just. They do a plethora. Everybody has something that they like to do. And we added a new Dream Team member this week, Ms. Mills, Millicent Turk. And I think she's going to be a huge advantage to us. She very knowledgeable about podcasts, and true crime is her passion. So we appreciate you, sweetie. I'm glad you're on board. Looking forward to working with you. So, anyway, y' all check out that page because there's so many posts. It's fan interaction, and they, like, Karen Ortolano posts a new criminal case almost every day. And then the fans post whatever they want to post. And there's a lot of great discussions and stuff from me, et cetera. So check it out. If you like Real Life, Real Crime, the podcast, you're going to love that page. And then we have our regular Real Life, Real Crime Facebook page. And then we have the Real Life, Real Crime Lanyapp page. And laniapp is just a Cajun word meaning something extra or bonus or free. And that's where, because we had so many people on the crew Page. The Laniac page is where fans can go and share their hobbies. And we would exchange things like we've exchanged some hot sauces and beers and different things with fans like that. But also our cookbook is on there and Carolee Coggins is a dream team member. She's running that. And after every episode they do a different category for the cookbook. And so check it out. It's really interesting. And we're on YouTube and that's grown a lot, y'. All. And I'm, I've been remiss. I've been traveling so much, but I'm about to start laying out a bunch of videos. And then of course we have Instagram and Twitter and whatever else. So check us out, check out our social media, like us share us, etc, and now I want to tell you about the Lanyat button. Now the Lanyard button is on www.realliferealcrime.com, our website. And I didn't, I honestly, y', all, we did that like a couple months ago and I forgot about it. And a fan, the, A lifer the other day hit me up and he said, hey, is there any way I can do something to. Another way. He's a, he's a, A patron also. But he wanted to know was there any way that, that they could contribute something more financially to the show once in a. Once in a while besides patron, right? And I said, well, yeah, actually, you know what? We have a lanyard button. And he went, name is Alex. And then he, he doesn't give his last name on Patron. So I'm probably, I'm assuming it's he, he wouldn't donate 50 bucks through the lanyard button. So. Alex, man, you know, I already told you, but I really appreciate you and that was pretty awesome to have it used for the first time. Well, guess what? Within a day, another lifer, Ms. Hillary Hook, who is from Australia, from down under. And Australia is our by far our second leading country in downloads. And then it's followed by the UK or actually Canada, then the UK, but in more 120 something countries around the world just blows my mind. But Hillary Hook turned around and hit the Lanyap button. So. Hillary Hook, you know I love you, sweetie. You didn't have to do that. But I appreciate it. Any little bit helps. It really does. And to offset some of the cost of the show and the time we spent doing the show, which is a lot, and the Patron members, man, y' all really, we got a bunch of new patrons in the, in the last week or so and I'm going to read some of them. I'm not going to read all of them today because it's long, but I want to give some shout outs to them. I am like Ms. Madison Siberia. S E B e R a Madison, your charge is vandalism. Thank you, sweetie. And Ashley Jones, you've been charged with vandalism. Thank you, my dear. And Amber Salad is charged with harassment. Amber, you've been charged. And Nicole Gordano has been charged with loitering. Thank you, Nicole. We appreciate you. And Denise Brienne, B r e a n I'm going out on a limb, Denise, and saying that. I'm saying that correctly, but you have been charged with vandalism. Thank you. Christine Little, your charge is harassment. Christine, your sweetheart. I appreciate it. In April Driskill, your charge is vandalism. April, you've been charged and I appreciate you. Atlanta. Jaeger Bendelism is your charge. Atlanta. I appreciate you. Amber Rogers, you got disturbing the peace. Amber, thank you so much. We appreciate you. And Cricket Worrell, I think that's how you say it, Cricket. W o r r e l l you have been charged with disturbing the peace. And Diana Bardwell, you have been charged with disturbing the peace, and I appreciate you. And Amy Roberts, your charge is vandalism. Thank you, Amy. I appreciate you. And Dawn Leach, disturbing the pieces. You charge. Dawn. Thank you. I appreciate you. And Amy Davidson, loitering. Amy, that's your charge and I appreciate you. Leah Covell, K o v e l your charge is vandalism. Leah, thank you so much, sweetie. Brian Terrebone, loitering is a charge. Brian, cuff up, buddy. I appreciate you. Samantha Green, disturbing the peace. Thank you, Samantha. You're awesome and I appreciate you. Kathleen Dean, you got open container is your charge and I appreciate you. Thank you, Kathleen. Ms. Erin M Condon, harassment's your charge. I appreciate you. Aaron. Thank you so much. Kristen Minnis, I'm guessing M I n n I s disturbing the peace. Kristen. I hope I said your name right, sweetie, but I appreciate you. And here's one I know I'm going to mess this up. Maybe Moesis Silva S M o I s e s Yachu is loitering. Silva loitering. And then we'll stop it right there, y'. All. The there was more, but we'll do more next week. And I didn't want to take too much time because I still want to say a couple more things. All you fans, and I hope you're still listening because I should have said this first. Certainly Patron is a big, huge, huge help for us. But I love and appreciate all the fans. Man, when you're going to these fapes Facebook true crime pages and stuff like that and people are asking for recommendations and you know, real life, real crime keeps popping up. Boom, boom, boom. My woody over to man. It makes me feel special. And I mean people, I don't even know who they are recommended us and that's because of y'. All. You should liking us and sharing us and telling people about us and people are leaving us comments on Facebook and you know, it's just been a hell of a ride. And I appreciate y'. All and we're going to Let me tell you about the Audible book real quick. It's a book that I published in 2014. It's about what happened to me and when I died on the table in 2009 and the stuff that followed after that. And but it has, it's just my story, but it has a lot of cop stuff in it. There's two death scene invest or I don't let the cat out of bag on that one. But there's two but at least three. One homicide or two homicides and one death scene investigation and there's cop stuff and whatever. But there's also. It's just my story. I'm not trying to preach to anybody or anything. I don't care if you atheist or Catholic or Baptist or Buddha or whatever. I don't care. And I judge people on their character and I treat people how they treat me. And so but I think it's a pretty good story and we really released it last week I think and it's gotten all five star reviews. On the audible review part, I think 14 people took the time to actually reviews a lot more bought and I'm appreciative of that. But here's the deal. Look in the show notes because if you never had an Audible book before, you can get it for free. And so we're gonna put that link in the show notes. You click on that and if you've never been I've never listened to an audiobook and the. 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[Woody Overton]

Know.

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