Real Life Real Crime | #WhatHappenedToMadison Episode 2

Summary

Real Life Real Crime | #WhatHappenedToMadison Episode 2

Podcast Host: Woody Overton
Guest: Ms. Lynn (Madison's Mother)
Date: March 10, 2026

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Episode Overview

This episode is a deep, emotionally charged continuation of the investigation into the disappearance of Madison, as told by host Woody Overton and Ms. Lynn, Madison's mother. The episode highlights Ms. Lynn's relentless search for her daughter, the frustrating lack of momentum from official investigators, emerging red flags around Madison’s last known associate (Thomas Morris), and growing suspicions of a potential pattern of predatory behavior and possible links to sex trafficking. Through raw, unscripted conversation, the episode peels back the layers of a case that seems to have been deprioritized by law enforcement, shining a much-needed light on the reality for families of missing persons.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Recapping Madison’s Disappearance (02:27–04:16)

• Last Known Whereabouts: Madison had been staying with a man named Thomas Morris, taking care of his children in Zachary, MS.
• Ms. Lynn Reports Madison Missing: After failing to reach Madison for weeks (including on special days like Ms. Lynn’s own birthday), Ms. Lynn contacts police and personally investigates by reaching out to Madison’s friends—none of whom had heard from Madison.
• Red Flags Appear: Ms. Lynn realizes that, while she'd messaged Thomas Morris on Facebook, he never once disclosed that Madison had lived in his home, which struck her as suspicious when the police finally revealed Madison had gone missing from his house.

2. Discrepancies in Thomas Morris' Statements (06:23–08:49)

• Thomas' Contradictory Claims:
  • Initially tells police Madison left his home in an unknown car with all her belongings.
  • Later provides Madison’s personal items (phone, laptop) to police, directly contradicting his earlier statement.
• Communication Gaps: Ms. Lynn never speaks to Thomas in person or on the phone—contact is only via Facebook messages.

"[Thomas] never once mentioned to me my child was living in his home. …That was a big red flag."
— Ms. Lynn (05:29)

3. Encounter with Law Enforcement & Handling of Evidence (09:56–16:09)

• Slow Investigation: Ms. Lynn describes how months passed before Thomas was questioned in person by Detective Minor at the Zachary Police Department.
• Evidence Mishandling:
  • Police return Madison's phone and laptop to Thomas instead of sending them for forensics.
  • When Ms. Lynn questions this, she’s told Madison left these items behind—a shift from the earlier claim.
• Law Enforcement Attitude: The case was brushed aside, with the detective attributing Madison's disappearance to her past lifestyle.

"You gave him three months to set him a story."
— Ms. Lynn (12:23)

“Who leaves their house—even if you’re mad or whatever—permanently, without taking your cell phone?”
— Woody Overton (13:35)

4. Inconsistencies Highlighted by Phone Records & Communications (26:43–35:48)

• Phone Record Analysis:
  • Activity appears on Madison’s phone up to December 5, while Thomas claims she left on Nov 29 or Dec 1.
  • Ms. Lynn personally investigates by calling every outgoing number on these records. Many numbers were wrong or out of service, complicating matters.
  • Text messages were sent from Madison's phone after her disappearance, raising suspicions that someone may have been impersonating her.

"I know something's going on because I got phone records that show outgoing activity."
— Ms. Lynn (32:32)

5. Patterns, Red Flags, and Possible Sex Trafficking (39:06–47:17)

• Sex Trafficking Concerns:
  • After a heated police meeting where Lynn is asked to leave, her partner Chad (ex–law enforcement) is told by investigators that sex trafficking is a possible factor.
• Pattern of Behavior:
  • Multiple women have stayed at Thomas’s house after Madison disappeared.
  • Another girl, who lived with Thomas after Madison, claims she was put out of his car, lost consciousness, and woke to find herself trafficked. She was eventually found months later.
  • New leads show that Thomas picks up women at the same gas station Madison frequented and supplies them with drugs.
• Community and Social Surveillance: Ms. Lynn knocks on doors in the area, posts on social media, and receives neighborhood tips confirming a pattern of women coming and going from Thomas’s house.

“He had a black bag full of drugs that he would give them.”
— Ms. Lynn (44:18)

6. Additional Victims and Disturbing Connections (47:20–58:06)

• Escalation of Incidents:
  • Police later respond to the house on a strangulation charge involving a different woman—again, picked up at the same racetrack and living a high-risk lifestyle.
  • After Thomas’ arrest, his house is searched (for drugs, not with cadaver dogs), raising concerns about missed investigative opportunities.
  • Upon release, Thomas sells the house. Another girl goes missing—traced via mutual friends to Thomas's address.

“You don’t just start picking up females… there’s a first time but for every time you know about, there’s probably…”
— Woody Overton (59:48)

7. Missed Opportunities and a Mother’s Relentlessness (58:26–65:56)

• Failure of Institutions: Several potential patterns, investigative oversights, and community reports point to systemic failures in treating Madison's case as urgent.
• Ms. Lynn’s Advocacy:
  • Maintains a Facebook group, campaigns publicly, appears on podcasts/news, and even posts billboards.
  • Never stops—knocking on doors, searching neighborhoods, and connecting with other affected families.

“I just want to find her.”
— Ms. Lynn (65:56)

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On Red Flags (Ms. Lynn):
  “[Thomas] never once mentioned to me my child was living in his home. …That was a big red flag.” (05:29)

• On Law Enforcement Apathy (Woody):
  “...sometimes you get in with inexperience… he doesn’t know how many homicides he’s handled. They would look at her past and say, ‘She just got tired and split again.’” (15:00)

• On Evidence Mishandling (Ms. Lynn):
  “You gave him three months to set him a story.” (12:23)

• On Discrepancies in Crime Scenes (Woody):
  “Who leaves their house—even if you’re mad or whatever—permanently, without taking your cell phone?” (13:35)

• On Patterns of Abuse (Woody):
  “You don’t just start picking up females… there’s a first time but for every time you know about, there’s probably…” (59:48)

• On a Mother’s Determination (Ms. Lynn):
  “I just want to find her.” (65:56)

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Timestamps for Key Segments

| Timestamp | Segment | Highlights | |---------------|-------------|---------------| | 02:27–04:16 | Introduction & Recap | Overview of case, last contact, Ms. Lynn’s actions | | 06:23–08:49 | Thomas Morris’ Contradictory Statements | Red flags surface; conflicting stories | | 09:56–12:23 | Law Enforcement’s Actions | Delayed investigation, returning evidence | | 26:43–29:06 | Phone Records | Discrepancies in phone activity after Madison’s disappearance | | 39:06–41:10 | Sex Trafficking | Police mention trafficking as a possibility | | 43:41–46:57 | Testimony from Other Women's Family | Similar stories, patterns, and new victims emerge | | 50:13–55:28 | Escalation with Thomas | Strangulation incident, new victims, home search | | 57:46–58:26 | Another Woman Missing | New potential connection, urgent responses | | 63:47–65:56 | Call for Tips & Support | Woody urges listeners to submit tips, Ms. Lynn’s plea |

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Conclusion & Call to Action

This episode exposes the frustrating layers of Madison’s disappearance—official indifference, evidence mishandling, and chilling parallels on the fringes of law enforcement’s attention. With Ms. Lynn’s persistence as a driving force and Woody’s investigative mindset, the podcast mobilizes listeners to help, emphasizing the importance of public engagement and the need for fresh tips to solve what truly happened to Madison.

If you have information: Call the tip line at 313-RLRC-TIP.
Follow & Share: #WhatHappenedToMadison across social media.

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Next Episode Preview:
Expect more on community efforts, ongoing investigations, media outreach, and a deep dive into the things done—and left undone—to bring justice for Madison and other vulnerable women.

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“Let’s just bring her home.”
— Ms. Lynn (65:39)

Transcript

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[Woody Overton (Podcast Host)]

Thank you. Hello everybody and welcome to this episode of Real Life Real Crime, the podcast. As always, I'm your host Woody Overton. Today we're going to be continuing hashtag what happened to Madison. And we're talking about in the studio again today I have with me Ms. Madison's mama, Ms. Lynn. So thank you for being here again.

[Ms. Lynn (Madison's Mother)]

Yes sir, thank you for having me back.

[Woody Overton (Podcast Host)]

Right. And then y' all last week you heard if you haven't listened to it already, go back and listen to it. You heard a little bit about Madison's life growing up and and you know the direction she took and but it what is important is in the end you heard that her mama hadn't heard from her since around Thanksgiving time and even Ms. Lynn's birthday came and she didn't hear from her. At some point she realized she was missing and she reported to her the officials in Mississippi they sent her Zachary police department where she made the missing persons report on for Madison and but she didn't stop there. She's Mama Baron playing the tech, not playing detective. She's being a detective and reaching out to all of Madison's go to friends, the people she. She would stay in touch with no matter what. And guess what? Nobody's heard from her. Nobody. And. But she did know that Madison had been staying with a guy in Zachary and taking care of his kids. And that was the last message you had, Lynn. It was that she was going back to school and.

[Ms. Lynn (Madison's Mother)]

Right. And going back to work. Well, going to work and going back to school.

[Woody Overton (Podcast Host)]

Right. And then the. Once she made the report to Zachary PD, they identify the child. But at some point, when Ms. Lynn also found out that she. You had actually had contact with the guy who's she'd been standing. Well, you didn't know his name, but you messaged people on Facebook and when he responded, he never said that she wouldn't miss him from his house or anything like that. Right. Red flags. And then. So Zachary PD calls him, did go see him, whatever. Maybe he's working. I don't know. I'm not going to throw shade on that. But they call him and he tells them that she left in a unknown car and took all her stuff with her.

[Ms. Lynn (Madison's Mother)]

Correct.

[Woody Overton (Podcast Host)]

Right. And the. At some point you find out his name and that you're like, oh, I've already been talking. I've talked to this guy. He's responded in the past. But he didn't ever say that she disappeared from there.

[Podcast Sponsor or Narrator]

Right.

[Ms. Lynn (Madison's Mother)]

I can't remember exactly how I got the name to match the address. I don't know if we googled the address or Zachary Police department gave me his name, but I just. I just knew that I had already spoken to him through Facebook messenger and he. He never once mentioned to me my child was living in his home. And to me that that was a big red flag when I found out that not only was she living in his home, that she went missing from his home.

[Woody Overton (Podcast Host)]

Right.

[Ms. Lynn (Madison's Mother)]

Because, you know, when, if someone called me asking about their child, I'm going, I would be honest. And you know, if they was living in my home, I would tell them, yeah, they were staying here and I come home from work and they was gone. But all their stuff's here.

[Woody Overton (Podcast Host)]

Right.

[Ms. Lynn (Madison's Mother)]

And then with that being said, but

[Woody Overton (Podcast Host)]

at that time, he. He said that she took all her stuff.

[Ms. Lynn (Madison's Mother)]

He said that she took everything with her, with her when she left. He also said that he didn't know her that well. Well, you know, then we. We find out that not only is my son watching his two minor children, she's driving around in his vehicle, but, you know, he claimed that he didn't know her that well.

[Woody Overton (Podcast Host)]

Let me ask this real quick. So what's his name again?

[Ms. Lynn (Madison's Mother)]

Thomas Morse.

[Woody Overton (Podcast Host)]

All right, y' all may say this. We. We have no. At this time, but I have no knowledge or direct knowledge that Thomas Morris did anything to Madison. Okay. I'm simply telling you the story as it was told to me. It's also a matter of public record with Zachary Police department, etc. It's not a. I mean, it's not like the whole world doesn't know. But his name. Okay. We're not slandering or defamation of character or whatever. They simply telling the story. And everything you're telling me is the truth. Correct?

[Ms. Lynn (Madison's Mother)]

Right.

[Woody Overton (Podcast Host)]

All right, so back to the. So Zachary had called him. And did you ever go over there at that time to Zachary, to the house?

[Ms. Lynn (Madison's Mother)]

No.

[Woody Overton (Podcast Host)]

Okay.

[Ms. Lynn (Madison's Mother)]

I've never. I've never been to the home. I've been by the home.

[Woody Overton (Podcast Host)]

Right.

[Ms. Lynn (Madison's Mother)]

I've never been inside the home.

[Woody Overton (Podcast Host)]

Right. Do you ever talk to Thomas Morris? Morris. When was the first time you talked to him?

[Ms. Lynn (Madison's Mother)]

When I was looking for my daughter. When I reached out to all of her friends on Facebook.

[Woody Overton (Podcast Host)]

Okay. I'm talking about when's the first time you heard his voice?

[Ms. Lynn (Madison's Mother)]

I've never heard his voice.

[Woody Overton (Podcast Host)]

So you've never actually spoken?

[Ms. Lynn (Madison's Mother)]

I've never spoken to him on the phone and I've never been face to face with him.

[Woody Overton (Podcast Host)]

Okay. All right, so we'll go back to it. Zachary PD makes the call. He says she left unidentified vehicle, took all her stuff, period, in the story. So then at what point, what do

[Podcast Sponsor or Narrator]

you do after that?

[Woody Overton (Podcast Host)]

Zara P. Says, hey. He says she split and took all her stuff.

[Ms. Lynn (Madison's Mother)]

Right after I reported my daughter missing and the police spoke with Thomas on the phone. My son in law, my two oldest grandchildren by Myerson's dad come pick me up. We went to Zachary. We went to the Zachary Police Department and spoke to Detective Minor. That's the first time I met Detective Minor. And he read off the police report to us for where the phone call was made to Thomas Morris. And we both told Detective Minor at this time that we knew something had happened to Madison. That Madison just didn't blink her eyes and disappear because neither one of us has heard from her. And Madison would always stay in contact with me or, you know, her ex husband. And even if they didn't have a good relationship, Madison and her ex husband, she would always call just. Just because she could.

[Podcast Sponsor or Narrator]

Right.

[Ms. Lynn (Madison's Mother)]

And you know, he. He told Detective Minor himself, he said something. Something's not right. Because we hadn't heard from her. So, you know, we rode around, did a little looking around, trying to see if we could find anything while I come back home. And then the next weekend, my youngest daughter and her boyfriend and I took it upon ourselves to start searching. So we're looking in the woods around the subdivision across the road and ditches, you know, now it's a new subdivision, but then it was development. So, you know, we're looking, trying to find my son. And in July, you know, I'm still in contact with Zachary Police department. They have not brought Thomas in for questioning at this time.

[Woody Overton (Podcast Host)]

And the phone call, Tim, was made in what month?

[Ms. Lynn (Madison's Mother)]

April.

[Woody Overton (Podcast Host)]

Okay. All right. So May, June, July. Three months later.

[Ms. Lynn (Madison's Mother)]

Three months later, I'm back and forth with Detective Minor. They got him to come in July 12th. He was coming in July 12th, around 6, 6:30.

[Woody Overton (Podcast Host)]

Tom Morse.

[Ms. Lynn (Madison's Mother)]

Right. And so I spoke to Detective Minor the next day, and he said that he read text messages from Madison and Thomas stating that she was leaving. I did not see these messages. He. I was told that Thomas brought in the cell phone that he had gave Madison to use. That was the new number that I had heard from her. And her cell phone, her personal cell phone and a laptop that she was using. These items were sent back to the home of Thomas Morris.

[Woody Overton (Podcast Host)]

By Zachary Police Department.

[Ms. Lynn (Madison's Mother)]

By Zachary Police Department. And I asked the detective over the phone, and it turned into a heated conversation. Why did you give these items back? And he said he did not need them. I said one of those items was my daughter's personal cell phone. And she arrested missing person.

[Woody Overton (Podcast Host)]

Right.

[Ms. Lynn (Madison's Mother)]

He said that he didn't need them. And I'm thinking these items were supposed to been sent off or forensics. You gave him three months to set him a story.

[Woody Overton (Podcast Host)]

Let me. Let me ask you a question. And then I go to case many, many years ago, Missing lady. And when I went to. Well, uniform guys went out to do a welfare check, and they opened a door on the trailer, and it was open and couldn't. She wasn't there. The dogs were inside. And later on, her brother called back. And then they called me. I was detective on duty, and I got the brother to let me in. And I walk in, right on the kitchen table, you know, I saw cell phone, purse, a pack of cigarettes and her lighter. I'm like, what woman doesn't take her purse and her cigarettes are lighter and a cell phone with her, right? And the. Now. Yeah, I saw. I knew something was wrong. Now, this guy.

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[Woody Overton (Podcast Host)]

In what world? And the massive Lifers all say in what world, especially females, do you leave your, you leave your house even if you're mad or whatever. And, or especially if you're going to leave permanently or world do you leave your laptop, your cell phone, etc. But again, in the earlier phone conversation he told Zachary PD that she left and took everything with her. But now three months later he shows up and conveniently has text messages and Ann has her phone. What did they ask why did she leave her phone?

[Ms. Lynn (Madison's Mother)]

No, during the heated conversation that I was having with a detective at this time, he told me, you know, because I'm asking about the phone and I'm like, well my son took everything with her. And he said that my son left everything behind. I said so the story has changed. Do you not find this.

[Woody Overton (Podcast Host)]

Go back, go back and read your report because he read it to you

[Ms. Lynn (Madison's Mother)]

because we went from Madison taking everything to now we don't left everything. I said, why did he change his story? And the detective told me that I did not know what state of mind my daughter was in when she left and that Thomas Morris might have found these items when he was cleaning the house.

[Woody Overton (Podcast Host)]

Come on now. Wait, wait, wait, wait. And again I'm y' all so trying so hard not to throw shade in this case because this one, I mean again I, I know they didn't have anything to do directly but Madison's disappearance but you get, sometimes you get in with inexperience the. Or maybe up. You know, he may have handled five or six missing person cases in his career, but he doesn't how many homicides is handled, how many and whatever say there he's. I don't want to say downplaying it because I'm be honest with you, the as a cop they would, you know, would looked at her past and the drug use and the rehabs and things like that and living in hotels and be like, well you know what, she just got tired and split again. Right. And it's not a real case was what we'd call it or whatever. It wasn't priority at his time. He the I mean I'm not making excuses for him, I'm just saying that.

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[Woody Overton (Podcast Host)]

Common sense and you know, could be inexperienced. Whatever. You would have read the report the day before and when he comes in you're going to hem him up. And that the first thing I would have done is called him in that lie and then you let him state it and then. So are you sure? Write it out for me when you get done. Okay. She left everything. Well then here's your statement from three months ago. Well, what do you have to say about that then? Guess what? The one thing never changes is the truth. And that house isn't so big that if Madison left all her stuff, he was just cleaning one day and having to find all our stuff. That's the stupidest thing I've ever heard.

[Ms. Lynn (Madison's Mother)]

Right. I agree. And during the same heated conversation that I'm having, I was told that. That this was just in my mind that Thomas Morris had absolutely nothing to do with my daughter missing.

[Woody Overton (Podcast Host)]

I bet that went real well for you. Right?

[Ms. Lynn (Madison's Mother)]

Right. And then I'm asking questions. I'M like, well, how did he meet Madison? And he, the detective stated to me that Thomas Morse has meets women. He had admitted to meeting more than just Madison at the racetrack, convenience stores, brings them home to live in his house, and that he also supplies them with drugs. And I'm thinking the whole time this gentleman just admitted that he supplies these women with drugs.

[Woody Overton (Podcast Host)]

That's what I'm thinking.

[Ms. Lynn (Madison's Mother)]

And then I had a text message, you know, well, Facebook message from the same individual stating that he checked with a supplier. And at this time, you know, I'm being told that Madison just left on her own. And I'm like, no, Madison did not leave on her own. My child would contact me. She would let me know that something was going on. So at this time, I'm still struggling and fighting to prove that something actually happened to my child. When, you know, in my mind I'm thinking the evidence is right there front of you. Why aren't you searching the home?

[Woody Overton (Podcast Host)]

Because he thought it was all in your mind. You're overreacting. Madison is just off doing Madison again. And. But yeah, come on, man. The. This guy admits to you that he picks up women at Basel gas stations and brings him to his home to take care of his kids and supplies them do that. That ought to tell you that's more red flags like red flag everywhere. And one if. If they're a known narcotics addict and you're going to bring them in your house to take care of your minor children and spy on the. What the fuck that say. I mean, then she's missing and then you're just going to take his word. Even I get it. He can come in with text messages. I'm sure he had a story straight. But the one thing he didn't do is keep his story straight because he didn't remember that he said before that she left and took everything. And again, who leaves their cell phone? Look, my cell phone is my office. It's my everything. Literally it is only 24. It's within arm's reach. 24 7. Even when I sit in my chair at nighttime, I have my glasses on. I'm watching tv so I can look down every couple minutes and see what's coming through. Right? The you just didn't happen. And did you ever find out what other items she supposedly left over there?

[Ms. Lynn (Madison's Mother)]

Everything.

[Woody Overton (Podcast Host)]

Like everything. What mean what clothes? Okay.

[Ms. Lynn (Madison's Mother)]

She didn't. She didn't take anything with her.

[Woody Overton (Podcast Host)]

Okay.

[Ms. Lynn (Madison's Mother)]

The only thing missing was Madison.

[Woody Overton (Podcast Host)]

Okay. And did she. Did she wear makeup or.

[Ms. Lynn (Madison's Mother)]

Yes.

[Woody Overton (Podcast Host)]

So that's another thing in cases I've worked in the past. And I actually had a female detective, Benita Sager, tell me that said the females leave without her makeup.

[Ms. Lynn (Madison's Mother)]

Right. That. That is what I had stress to the detective. I'm like Madison might would leave and leave her clothes behind, but she's not gonna leave that cell phone. She's not gonna leave.

[Woody Overton (Podcast Host)]

Who's gonna. How. How are you gonna do anything? How are you gonna contact your besties that you stay in your hotel roomies? How are you gonna contact your mom on a birthday? How are you gonna do anything?

[Ms. Lynn (Madison's Mother)]

Madison smart. She's not gonna leave anything behind that someone would have information. She might would have left his cell phone, but she would have cleared it. She would have never walked out that door and left her cell phone behind. She might would have left a purse, her clothes, but she wouldn't have left that cell phone.

[Woody Overton (Podcast Host)]

I don't think she would have left any of it. But the. The cell phone is the biggest one. And you know, I'm gonna get so ahead of myself. But I really want to know now where that cell phone was pinging at the time and everything else.

[Ms. Lynn (Madison's Mother)]

That was a question that I asked as well. And I was told that the last time the cell phone pinged was in Zachary. That is just what I was told. I have not seen any.

[Woody Overton (Podcast Host)]

At what point was that. Was that before your heated argument with Detective Minor or do you remember? Because I'm going to tell you something. The. When I was still a detective in 2013, the ship we were just getting to use cell phone towers. That I know the technology is a lot more advanced now and everything else but the. That it is a. You can't just go get the pinging and the tower locations and the phone companies are the. The absolute. I guess it's the best and you want to call it protect your privacy. But there are. There are absolute m. Efforts when it comes to deal with law enforcement. You.

[Podcast Sponsor or Narrator]

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[Woody Overton (Podcast Host)]

You know what where our customer cell phone was doing pinging off what tower. You better come with all kinds of subpoenas and judges orders and then our legal team's going to fight it and then we're going to have a hearing. It's not easy is what I'm telling you. So they. That could have been. I'm not saying it was, but that most certainly more than likely was a. Yeah, whatever it was in Zachary.

[Ms. Lynn (Madison's Mother)]

We.

[Woody Overton (Podcast Host)]

I'd like to see proof that they actually did that at that time.

[Ms. Lynn (Madison's Mother)]

Me too. We had Madison's personal cell phone records pulled because her Phone that she had was through a family friend of ours. So that family friend was actually able to request the phone records. And these phone records came back with usage past November 30th. Let me back up because Thomas Morris first stated that Myerson left his home on November 29. Three months later he said Myerson left his home on December 1, leaving everything behind.

[Woody Overton (Podcast Host)]

So now we have, that's when he comes in, y' all to the pd, right.

[Ms. Lynn (Madison's Mother)]

So now we have these phone records and they have activity on these phone records up Till I believe, December 5th.

[Woody Overton (Podcast Host)]

And, but did they show or you don't know where?

[Ms. Lynn (Madison's Mother)]

Yes, they, they had, it was outgoing calls and yes, I called every number on there.

[Woody Overton (Podcast Host)]

You don't know where the phone was at the time, Rebecca?

[Ms. Lynn (Madison's Mother)]

No, I don't, I don't know that.

[Woody Overton (Podcast Host)]

So you call the numbers on that support to anybody?

[Ms. Lynn (Madison's Mother)]

I called every number on there, looked up every number that I could find to get a name. A lot of them was wrong numbers. Some of them, the numbers was no longer in service.

[Woody Overton (Podcast Host)]

What about the duration of the phone calls?

[Ms. Lynn (Madison's Mother)]

How many minutes that we would have to go back to look to see.

[Woody Overton (Podcast Host)]

Okay, and y' all the kind of putting a car for the horse. Because what we're going to do this week by week and, but you have a volume of information. I'm going to say that first of all, at the end it's all, I mean it really really, it really doesn't sit well with me. And I'm not going to sugarcoat it for you. I, I, I do not, I don't, I don't believe Madison is still with us with all, everything that you've given me. But we're going to get to that now. But the phone calls, him saying first of all she took everything and then changing the story and then admitting to giving them dope and what have you. And then you get the phone records. Now it's almost a week later and it's a bunch of outgoing calls.

[Ms. Lynn (Madison's Mother)]

It's outgoing calls. And then I arrange for a meeting at the Zachary Police Department because, you know, I'm told Madison left everything behind on December 1st. I have phone records showing outgoing activity

[Woody Overton (Podcast Host)]

and, and the real problem with that is the. Now I'm interrupting. The problem with that is at first he said she left and she took everything.

[Ms. Lynn (Madison's Mother)]

Right.

[Woody Overton (Podcast Host)]

Then he has a face to face months later because he can't keep straight or I'm assuming that he can't keep it straight. Then he says she left. Right. And, but she left her things behind. Well, she Left it behind. Who are the outgoing phone calls to?

[Ms. Lynn (Madison's Mother)]

Right, Right.

[Woody Overton (Podcast Host)]

She didn't sneak back. She didn't sneak back in the window in the middle of the night just to make phone calls.

[Ms. Lynn (Madison's Mother)]

I take these phone records with me to my meeting, and I'm. I'm asking. Okay, so my son left December 5th. Right. Who's using this phone? I was told that she left.

[Woody Overton (Podcast Host)]

Oh, she left. The first report was the 29th. Then it was December one. Now the phone is being used until December 5th.

[Ms. Lynn (Madison's Mother)]

Right.

[Woody Overton (Podcast Host)]

Right.

[Ms. Lynn (Madison's Mother)]

So I'm. I'm told these phone records show incoming activity. I'm like, no, this is outgoing activity. The paper was slid back across the table to me, and it was nothing else said about that.

[Woody Overton (Podcast Host)]

And who were you in the meeting

[Ms. Lynn (Madison's Mother)]

with at this time? I was in a meeting with Detective Minor, Sergeant Sims and my boyfriend that went with me for moral support. But I ended up being put out the room because at this point, I'm livid because I know what I'm looking at.

[Woody Overton (Podcast Host)]

You're losing your Jesus. And.

[Ms. Lynn (Madison's Mother)]

Yes.

[Woody Overton (Podcast Host)]

Trying to play it down. Yeah.

[Ms. Lynn (Madison's Mother)]

So I'm sent out the room, And at this point, we are. You know, I don't know what to think. I just. I know something's going on because I got this phone records that show an outgoing activity. And at this time, I'm still investigating with my daughter's friends who's sending me screenshots of messages or call phone call logs to their phone from both numbers that Madison had access to.

[Woody Overton (Podcast Host)]

This is it. But this is after she went missing, Right? Right. Man. He's the one. By his own admission, he was in possession of those phones.

[Ms. Lynn (Madison's Mother)]

Right.

[Woody Overton (Podcast Host)]

I mean, you tell the cops, has public record, Right?

[Ms. Lynn (Madison's Mother)]

Because, you know, every time I reached out to someone, I want to know the last time you spoke to her, last time you saw her. Well, then what.

[Woody Overton (Podcast Host)]

What was. What was it about?

[Ms. Lynn (Madison's Mother)]

Right. So. And they. They would tell me. I'm going to say they. Because I had a couple.

[Woody Overton (Podcast Host)]

Right.

[Ms. Lynn (Madison's Mother)]

Well, I was texting her, let's say December the second. They were supposed to meet somewhere. Never. Never did hear anything else back. And I'm like, okay, Because Madison didn't have her phone at this time, but yet he's sending me screenshots of messages. So I'm.

[Woody Overton (Podcast Host)]

He.

[Ms. Lynn (Madison's Mother)]

The. Her friend, one of my friends. I'm thinking, okay, well, my son doesn't have her phone. And this is messages from both numbers. Somebody's got access to her phones and is contacting her friends.

[Woody Overton (Podcast Host)]

Right. The. And we have them. And I'll release it The Patreon and convicts first. That's the subscribers. The. The at some point when. When we get to that point. But give me a just of so it if it's a two way conversation. Right. I'm texting you and you're texting me back. The But Madison's already missing and we know this and we know this guy by his own admission is in possession of the device. What were the jests of the text messages and what three red flags for you about the text messages?

[Ms. Lynn (Madison's Mother)]

The red flags that I seen. Was that the date of these.

[Woody Overton (Podcast Host)]

But what did it all say? The like when you and I have been texting. Right.

[Ms. Lynn (Madison's Mother)]

Right.

[Woody Overton (Podcast Host)]

And I text my wife all day long but I always abbreviate like instead of while you are. I do. You are. You're right. And my. My wife can tell you exactly if I'm the one texting or not. You see that that. Were there any red flags like that?

[Ms. Lynn (Madison's Mother)]

No, not that I can think of at the moment because I was so focused on dates. Not really what the messages were saying because I was more interested in the the time and the dates that these messages was going in and out.

[Woody Overton (Podcast Host)]

So in these conversations where they. Obviously somebody was. You believe somebody was pretending to be Madison.

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[Ms. Lynn (Madison's Mother)]

It's a great possibility.

[Woody Overton (Podcast Host)]

Yes. And what were the just the conversations. Let's say it's Madison and Susie Q that they always text and what have you. What And I'm not playing devil's advocate. I'm just asking because that's what people are going to want to know with the. It's a week after the messages are going back and forth. What were they about? I mean, like, is that, why does that not. You see what I'm saying, right? As a cop, if I'm Zachary, I'm be like, you know, even though he, he's in possession of the phone, the, this just maybe the dates got messed up. Maybe, maybe he says she left December 1st. Really left December 6th. Yeah. And that's again why I wanted over the, it was pinging from and, and times and I would speak to these people and verify that. And probably the worst case scenario of that is that she didn't go missing until a week later.

[Ms. Lynn (Madison's Mother)]

That's a possibility.

[Woody Overton (Podcast Host)]

And you know what? Anything's possible. It's possible that I may be dead ass wrong that and, and Madison's living in Wisconsin or somewhere, which I, I, I would pray that would be the case. But I don't, I don't believe it's going to be the case. And y', all, you know, as we continue to tell a story, you understand why. All right, so we're back to it. The dates they got messages going back and forth. And I'm gonna, that'll be one of the first things I get back into when, when I go inside today. The. They're going back and forth between the friends. Zachary, you losing your Jesus in a meeting to the point where they have to ask you to exit the room. Right, Right. And I'm pretty sure then we'll see that Mama bear fired up the. And then what happens after that?

[Ms. Lynn (Madison's Mother)]

Chad stayed behind and Chad's ex law enforcement, so he stayed behind and talked to Sims and Minor. And it was brought up at this time that they believed that it was possible sex trafficking involved. This, you know, I don't know. I just know that my daughter's missing and that something happened to her. And it was kind of a quiet ride home other than Chad telling me that because, you know, I'm still mad and it's best if I just, I'm quiet.

[Woody Overton (Podcast Host)]

Right.

[Ms. Lynn (Madison's Mother)]

And I'm trying to remember what took place after that meeting. It wasn't too much conversation afterwards because, you know, I'm mad and when I got up to leave out of the room, I made the comment who was related to the gentleman who was on the payroll and why they wasn't trying to find my child.

[Woody Overton (Podcast Host)]

Yeah.

[Ms. Lynn (Madison's Mother)]

So it, it, you know, that meeting, like I said, it didn't end well.

[Woody Overton (Podcast Host)]

Right. Well, you're being very polite about that because I can only imagine.

[Ms. Lynn (Madison's Mother)]

Yeah.

[Woody Overton (Podcast Host)]

The, the I had question the sex trafficking. What. What exactly did he say about that?

[Ms. Lynn (Madison's Mother)]

Just that it was a possibility.

[Woody Overton (Podcast Host)]

Queen. I understand that. So what's your reaction? What do you say? I mean, sex traffic, like what? Like this dude sells girls or you know, she could have been whatever that maybe they had a tip, could have come from one of his friends who knows that. That she got sold into sex trafficking.

[Ms. Lynn (Madison's Mother)]

Whatever this. I don't know why that came up. I'm not in the room.

[Woody Overton (Podcast Host)]

Right.

[Ms. Lynn (Madison's Mother)]

So I don't know why that came up because I didn't hear any more else about the sex trafficking. But then I was contacted by another family. I want to say it was In October of 24,

[Woody Overton (Podcast Host)]

almost a year later.

[Ms. Lynn (Madison's Mother)]

Right. Because, you know, Madison vanished November 29, 2023. And so we're in 24 now. And so in October 24, I was contacted by another family that this other lady had also been living in the home with Thomas Morse.

[Woody Overton (Podcast Host)]

How do they hear about you? And then I'm let you tell everything about it. But how?

[Ms. Lynn (Madison's Mother)]

Facebook, Internet. Because, you know, I'm. I'm putting my son out there every chance I get.

[Woody Overton (Podcast Host)]

Okay, let's. Let's go back this digress for a second. The investigation obviously is not unfolding the way or to your satisfaction.

[Ms. Lynn (Madison's Mother)]

Exactly.

[Woody Overton (Podcast Host)]

The. But you're driving back and forth. You've gone searching in the neighborhood. The. What other efforts were you doing? And now you tell me about Facebook and you have a Facebook page for her and it's called where is what happened to Madison? Right. Same thing. We're naming this episode, y' all hashtag what happened to Madison? Everywhere you like her comment or what have you. But you have a Facebook page, what happened to Madison?

[Ms. Lynn (Madison's Mother)]

Right.

[Woody Overton (Podcast Host)]

And you do a lot of posts in there and stuff. So you're doing that. What about media? Anything like that?

[Ms. Lynn (Madison's Mother)]

Yes, I mean, like I said, I'm all over social media for my son. And I also knocked on doors in the neighborhood asking, you know, did they see anything, have they seen my daughter? Trying to see if they can give me some information. While I spoke to one gentleman at this time, there's like three houses up. And he said it's women in and out the house all the time. And I'm like, okay, you know, you're just verifying other things that I'm told that it's women coming and going from this house. But so I want to go back to the October, the.

[Woody Overton (Podcast Host)]

The family reaching out to you.

[Ms. Lynn (Madison's Mother)]

Right. This. I spoke to the mother and the lady that lived in the house. She.

[Woody Overton (Podcast Host)]

The. The actual person.

[Ms. Lynn (Madison's Mother)]

Right.

[Woody Overton (Podcast Host)]

Okay. All right.

[Ms. Lynn (Madison's Mother)]

She was in the home after my son vanished. She started staying in the home around January. And.

[Woody Overton (Podcast Host)]

Well, we know. We know Cord in his own and what he brought into the police department. Everything else, when she gets into the house in January, Madison's stuff is still there.

[Ms. Lynn (Madison's Mother)]

Right? This. I'll get into that, too, because, you know, she told me that she did not name Addison, and it was all kind of different women's clothes in the house. And the reason she was telling me this was because she had got sick, and he gave her some more somebody's clothes to wear, and it was too big for her, but she didn't have a choice. But anyway, it was all kinds of women's clothes in the house. And this lady also verified that he supplied him with drugs, that. That he had a black bag full of drugs that he would. He would give them. And she said at this time, whatever kind of narcotic it was that he was offering her was not her drug of choice.

[Woody Overton (Podcast Host)]

You. You said them a couple times. You met her. Right?

[Podcast Sponsor or Narrator]

Right.

[Woody Overton (Podcast Host)]

She's not saying there were multiple women living at that time.

[Ms. Lynn (Madison's Mother)]

Right.

[Woody Overton (Podcast Host)]

It was just her. Her and Morse.

[Ms. Lynn (Madison's Mother)]

Right.

[Woody Overton (Podcast Host)]

And the kids.

[Ms. Lynn (Madison's Mother)]

This. Anyway, this particular lady, she started staying in the home around January, and she told me that she was with Thomas Morris one day. He had a bunch of stuff that he was taking of women's belongings and dumping at empty lots off Airline highway next to this hotel called White Oaks. And then she was with him one day, and they got in an argument, and she wanted to go home. He got mad and put her out at the same abandoned parking lot that he was disposing of women's clothes. And this lady told me that within minutes, the next thing she knew, she was woke up and sold into sex trafficking.

[Woody Overton (Podcast Host)]

Okay. She was woke up.

[Ms. Lynn (Madison's Mother)]

Sid did.

[Woody Overton (Podcast Host)]

So he puts her out in the light. Next thing she knows, she wakes up.

[Ms. Lynn (Madison's Mother)]

She said she remembered talking to someone, and the next thing she knows, she woke up and she was out into sex trafficking. She was found in April of 25. Yes.

[Woody Overton (Podcast Host)]

Found where? Out of state.

[Ms. Lynn (Madison's Mother)]

April 24th.

[Woody Overton (Podcast Host)]

Right.

[Ms. Lynn (Madison's Mother)]

She was found in Port Allen.

[Woody Overton (Podcast Host)]

Okay.

[Ms. Lynn (Madison's Mother)]

She was with two other individuals. The cops was called because of a disturbance, and to my understanding, it was an altercation between the two guys and this individual. And then when they was arrested, they found out who she was.

[Woody Overton (Podcast Host)]

Okay, and that should have been missing, right? The. I bet you she had a cell phone.

[Ms. Lynn (Madison's Mother)]

I don't know.

[Woody Overton (Podcast Host)]

I know. I'm just saying Madison didn't have her phone her clothes or whatever the. The says verifiable. And you talk to this individual and she was there. We know she was there after Madison.

[Ms. Lynn (Madison's Mother)]

Correct.

[Woody Overton (Podcast Host)]

And the. Did you tell me how they met?

[Ms. Lynn (Madison's Mother)]

I asked her this. She met Thomas at a racetrack on Airline as well. But on the other end of Airline Isn't.

[Woody Overton (Podcast Host)]

Isn't that familiar?

[Ms. Lynn (Madison's Mother)]

Right, right.

[Woody Overton (Podcast Host)]

And there's no such thing as a coincidence in cases like this. Now, racetrack show. The. I mean, if I have to stop somewhere when I'm in town or whatever, I pretty much stop at a racetrack or if I'm traveling, because they're big. It's not like. It's not like a little Exxon station or whatever. They got a large selection of drinks and like a cop times the hot dogs on the machines, different things. The. They're big parking lots, but. And the areas you're talking about on the airline and highway are pretty tough areas. The. I mean, these are not. It's not like you're on Rodeo Drive in Beverly Hills. All right, but so now independent, because Madison told you or you found out, however, she was at a racetrack, and then this other individual tells you that he picks her up at a racetrack.

[Ms. Lynn (Madison's Mother)]

Right.

[Woody Overton (Podcast Host)]

On Airline highway on the other end.

[Ms. Lynn (Madison's Mother)]

Correct.

[Woody Overton (Podcast Host)]

I mean, the profiler means it. That's just screams. Yeah.

[Ms. Lynn (Madison's Mother)]

She was also staying in hotels along Airline as well. So, you know, we have Madison and then we have this lady that I spoke with her and her mom. And in the same month, October of 24, I received calls. Well, there wasn't calls. I received messages, Facebook messages of cops kicking in the door of the house that my daughter vanished from. And it was another lady living in the home. And the cops was called, and Thomas Morris was arrested on strangulation charges to this new lady that was staying.

[Woody Overton (Podcast Host)]

Now, we know this is at least the third Madison then the individual you spoke to. And now if it happened, that the cops respond to basically domestic violence, attempted murder, strangulation call. And what happened with that?

[Ms. Lynn (Madison's Mother)]

Well, the cops showed up, actually kicked the door in. You know, I have neighbors messaging me, so.

[Woody Overton (Podcast Host)]

That's right, because, you know, you've met people, being the detective, your mama bearing, you never given up. And so they're like, holy, let me call in.

[Ms. Lynn (Madison's Mother)]

Right? And I mean, I'm. I remember I was on my way to work, and I was almost work, and I had two different people messaging me about the situation. So Thomas is arrested. I'm not. I don't know what happens to the girl. I'm sure she went to the hospital. I don't know. I don't know if she was arrested on something. But anyway the homes being searched at this time. This home's being searched for drugs. They had a dog, a drug dog. They did not have a cadaver dog. So in my mind I'm thinking this is a wasted and missed opportunity for you. You could been searching for my daughter or you know something pertaining to my child at this time.

[Woody Overton (Podcast Host)]

Yeah but let me interrupt you and not taken up for them. But if they go and they hit it, they know by his own admission that he's given Girls dope before etc. Right. And they can use a 911 call as a hot incident to get in and save the. Save the girl and what have you. So you really wouldn't need a search warrant that hot pursuit that you wouldn't need to search warrant. But due to his own past admission they can, you know might ask them can we look around or what have you. But the one thing you couldn't do is bring a cadaver dog in that if they had found. If they'd gone in with a cadaver dog, let's say they got a narcotic narcotic search warrant and they hit the house. The search warrant is limited to. To what you can swear out before the judge that you have probable cause, which is 50 plus one to believe that these items are located in the house. And so if they have a narcotic search warrant, they can't. If they go in and they. They found your daughter first so you. There'd be no reason to bring a cadaver dog in. It would be an elite. Whatever the cadaver dog found, thank God they didn't do it. Let's say she's in there and if they had a founder he'd have never got prosecuted for it because it's fruit of the legal fruit of the poisonous tree. It's any legal search. Now if they go in there, look for narcotics and they find her body and it happens all the time they're in freeze chopped up in freezers or whatever it may be, they find blood stains and they come back and her DNA, whatever the. If they find that while they're looking for the narcotics and they have to stop what they're doing and go get a new search warrant, they'll secure the scene, go get a new search warrant from a judge, come back now look for these type items. So but I get it, I get it. The Certainly, certainly they're aware that Madison went missing from there.

[Ms. Lynn (Madison's Mother)]

Right.

[Woody Overton (Podcast Host)]

And certainly they were aware because you've been in their office losing Jesus on them. Like, hey, you know what? You haven't done this, you haven't done that. And I don't, honestly, I don't think these, these guys thought it was anything other than another day at the office and another. A person in a high risk lifestyle gone missing. Right. And then. So this girl, did you ever. I think you had her name. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I thought so the woman will say it at this time. Maybe I want to talk to her at some point. But the, the she gets out. But he was definitely. I think that I, I read the charters. I think it was like a strangulation.

[Ms. Lynn (Madison's Mother)]

And was it battery?

[Woody Overton (Podcast Host)]

Yeah, it would be a domestic battery. Says second degree battery, which is the same thing as there is no attempted murder in Louisiana. Second degree battery is the only difference between second degree battery and second degree. Aggravated. Aggravated battery is if I shoot you with a gun and I'm trying to kill you and. Or I stab you with a knife, that, that makes it aggravated when you use a weapon. The ag battery, I can use my, my hands and that's strangulation. And either you have to be injured so badly that you have to seek medical attention, you lose consciousness, or you suffer some type of permanent disfigurement or what have you. So there's still. It's attempted murder. There's no, there is no attempted murder charge in the state of Louisiana. That's it. So the. Basically he was trying to kill her. He was choking her in a domestic situation. So that's number three.

[Ms. Lynn (Madison's Mother)]

Right.

[Woody Overton (Podcast Host)]

And did it. That we don't know if he picked her up or racetrack, huh?

[Ms. Lynn (Madison's Mother)]

Yes, same. Same situation. She was living in hotels as well. All these girls are connected one way or the other.

[Woody Overton (Podcast Host)]

Got it. Oh, they. It sounds like somebody's cruising a certain lifestyle.

[Ms. Lynn (Madison's Mother)]

Right.

[Woody Overton (Podcast Host)]

And if he picked her up at a racetrack. Come on, man.

[Ms. Lynn (Madison's Mother)]

So you know, he was arrested when he got out of jail. His house goes up for sale. The home sold in January of 25. One of his co workers bought the home. And then I'm go back to this past August of 25. I notice I'm on Facebook and I see where this other girl went missing from Baton Rouge. And I'm, you know, I'm seeing if I can connect some dots on this. She had mutual friends, as my daughter did. And so I'm asking questions to Madison's friends and, and I'm messaging the new missing girl's family and then I receive a message stating that this girl was with Thomas Morris as well that we had information provided that she gave one of her friends the address to where she was, which is a St. Francisville address.

[Woody Overton (Podcast Host)]

And yeah, all of them lifers you don't name. St. Francisville is only about 20 minutes down the road from Zachary. It's in West Fleshon Parish. Zachary's in East Baton Rouge.

[Ms. Lynn (Madison's Mother)]

And in one of the friends stated that they was on the phone with this girl and she stated that she was running through the woods and that someone was chasing her and the call dropped for whatever reason and no one has seen her from her since.

[Woody Overton (Podcast Host)]

Okay. And this you got through other information from

[Ms. Lynn (Madison's Mother)]

the lady's family.

[Woody Overton (Podcast Host)]

Okay. The missing person.

[Ms. Lynn (Madison's Mother)]

The missing person, the new missing girl's family and information through some of their mutual friends.

[Woody Overton (Podcast Host)]

Okay.

[Ms. Lynn (Madison's Mother)]

And so I'm on the phone with the new missing girl sister and I'm like, you need to call St. Francisville. I'll call them tomorrow. No ma', am, you call them right now. Call them right now, tell them to go do a welfare check, tell them what you got and I promise you they'll send someone out in which they did.

[Woody Overton (Podcast Host)]

Okay. The we're gonna stop right there for this week. But let's quick recap. We're up to what number four now, right? That's what we know about. You know, you don't just start picking up females especially nobody needs that much gas from racetrack the different racetracks in the worst parts of town and picking up the the females who are, you know, obviously high risk. Living high risk lifestyles doesn't make them bad people y'. All. It's just, you know, the way that it is and getting them enticing them to go to your home to take care of your kids and by the song admission tell the cops I'd give them dope.

[Ms. Lynn (Madison's Mother)]

Right, right.

[Woody Overton (Podcast Host)]

And what's. What's wrong with this picture? You don't just start out doing that there's a first time but for every time that you know about there's probably. I'm not saying Thomas more specifically, I'm talking about in general one bad guys that do this type of thing. The and when later when murders get tied to him etc, you don't just start out doing that. It progresses as it goes and then it becomes a real need, a real void and that's why they spend the time cruising in org. If it was a child save as a pedophile it'd be called grooming. Right. Luring the victims in and get in it to the whatever point that they get to and then sugar turns to and the Madison is missing. Hashtag what happened to Madison? The other young lady was found sex trafficking in Baton Rouge.

[Police Miranda Rights Officer]

Then

[Woody Overton (Podcast Host)]

you talk to. That was the one that you talked to. And then we have the one that's Ms. Still missing from St. Francisville. Who, who's the fourth you had the. Oh the strangulation. That's right. That's right. And and so the added all up people and I need you to call on your tips 313-RLRC-TIP and about it. By the time this episode is played we will all will be almost two weeks into hashtag what happened to Madison calling your tips this whole thing. You know how I work. I need your tips now. Mama Bear Lynn has been detective knocking on doors, boots on the ground search in the area and all this and but also the social media detective the, the using never giving up, reaching out to everyone, always following it up. And next week we'll, we're going to talk a lot more about what makes it so, so suspicious and what has and hasn't been done and everything else. But we're also going to talk about the. Other things that you've done to press this forward. You've been on podcasts, you've been on news episodes. You got a billboard up from Madison now and pretty much in almost the same area town that he picked her up from. And there's even a reward from a non profit that's good for however long. We'll talk about all that. All right. But the main thing I need all y' all to do is all these women, these four women, all human beings, they all got mamas just like Lynn. They all got brothers and sisters or somebody that loves them and you know, hashtag what happened to Madison I already know it's gonna lead into a hashtag justice4 but I need y' all to get me there and call on your tips 313-RRC-TIP Remaining honest or not, I don't care 24 hours a day. I don't care. It goes to another line and it gets sent to me anyway. But no tip is too small and you never know. Just like you heard Ms. Lynn talking about earlier, saying that she would do this and then this person would verify more information that she already knew. That's called investigating. So you, you know, you couldn't get off of that because that's where it led.

[Podcast Sponsor or Narrator]

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[Woody Overton (Podcast Host)]

But, but everything has to be looked at. Everything has to be investigated. And in the craziest, what may seem like the smallest craziest thing to you may be the tip that absolutely connects the puzzle, the last piece of the puzzle that can break this wide open. But we want to find out what happened to Madison. All right, and hashtag what happened to Madison on all your responses. And we're going to be posting all the stuff on all our social medias and tick tock and everything else. And Ms. Lynn, I know that's a lot, right? And just hang in there. And then by this time, this is the second week and you're going to see how the lifers respond, right? And they're going to be coming in the make sure you have access to all our pages and all that stuff so you can respond. That's very important. See, they need to the of it look like the moms on the cases that I work. Holy the. The little Haley. She was from Atlanta. Now her mama lives in Florida and she's like, I couldn't made it through some of my days without the lifers sending pictures of sunsets or whatever it may be, you know. But thank you for being here again today. Hang in there. This is the beginning. And you got so much more say. And guess what? Got all the time in the world and we have the best listeners in the world. And y'. All, what happened to Madison? Hashtag what happened to Madison? All right. Thank you for being here. You got anything else to say?

[Ms. Lynn (Madison's Mother)]

Thank you for having me. And let's just help bring Madison home.

[Woody Overton (Podcast Host)]

That's. That's the first goal. Okay? And. And hey, if we bring her home and. And from Japan. Great. Bring home. Let's just bring her home.

[Ms. Lynn (Madison's Mother)]

I just want to find her.

[Woody Overton (Podcast Host)]

I know, sweetie. All right, y'. All. And I'm Woody Overton, you host Real Life, Real Crown the podcast. Until next time or ever. Don't let me catch you that little murder by you. Peace.

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