Mike Brown (18:17)
We'Ll fast forward a little bit. All right. They can't charge. They could have, but they didn't charge Mark Lewis with Janet Benoit's murder immediately. Okay, I told you about Stan Carpenter, the supervisor detectives, and he's smart. And yes, the DNA in her hands, Jen Benoit's hands and his hairs in her hands, and the fact that she fought him, that's, I mean that's really, really good evidence and probably would have been more than enough for a conviction. But Stan's like, you know what? Fuck it, we don't have to rush it because he's already gone to prison. They shipping his ass to Angola right now. I mean, he's not going to get out, he's not going to beat anything on Kaitlyn's case, on appeals. So we have time to work it. Ben Ballard and I think Detective Ben Bourgeois, who's now Bourgeois, is the chief of detectives for the sheriff's office now in Livingston. And he is a jam up guy, a great investigator and we worked the street together and he went to the detectives and I came to detectives after him. We worked together for many years. And not only that, we were very good, close personal friends and we hunted and fished together and did things together with our families on our days off. Been super smart, they took their time and they worked it. And I don't know all the details, but let me tell you what I do know is they found somehow through great investigative work, they found the pistol that Mark Lewis shot Janet Benoit with. Mark Lewis had given the pistol, Colt 38 Special. Remember I told you the bullets were able to be matched, that Patrick Lane matched the bullets from Janet Benoit's body to a Colt 38 Special. Well, they, Ben and Ben, Ben Ballard and Ben Bourgeois worked it and somehow they were able to develop sources that told him that Mark Lewis had given him a pistol years before. And the guy had it. He had it in the top of his closet, tucked away. And it turned out the fucking pistol was Mark Lewis's mama's pistol originally. She had bought it. And they were able to get the pistol and send it to the crime lab. And Patrick Lane positively 1000% identify that as the pistol that murdered Janet Benoit. So they don't stop there. They have everything up, right? They have the ballistics, they have the DNA, etc. And they bring him in and they set him up. They show them pictures of Janet Benoit. Have you ever met her? He says, nope. And then they roll out the evidence they have. Okay, well, fuck you. You're done. Not only have you met her, she whooped your ass, basically in the parking lot, yanks the hair out of your head, and you, you know, shoot her in the back three times. And so he then confesses. Now think about this. And I think about this every time I think about Mark Lewis. Why does he confess? I firmly believe in my heart of hearts he confesses because he already knew. I mean, I already told him we had the DNA, right? And then Ben. And Ben worked the case for so good and so long, and they are able to bring him in, get him to denied, and then they show him the evidence they actually have, which he knew I wasn't full of shit. Now, lying about the DNA, and he's confronted with the gun and the fact that they have it. He immediately confesses. Why? I'm telling you, it's because he has more bodies on him. Or that's cop talk for I know he's done more murders in his mind. If he thinks, oh, fuck, I'll hurry up and confess to it, and they'll leave me alone and they won't look at me anymore, right? Because now I'm gonna have two life sentences and hopefully they won't find out about whomever else it is that he murdered or raped or whatever over his time as a criminal or his adult life. I just. You cannot tell me that he killed Benoit in 1993. Then less than two years later, he abducts the girl with the screwdriver. And he would have killed her too, had she not escaped. And then he gets out in he has some dormant years before he murdered Caitlyn. And fuck that, he didn't stop. So they, of course, they were looking at him for every kind of cold case they can. Now, when we get his DNA, it's put into the CODIS database, which is the nationwide database. Every criminal or now at Most states are like Louisiana, they have, if you're arrested for any type of sexual crime or crime of violence, they swap you automatically and put you into that database. But I think probably a lot of his victims would have been before DNA was real prevalent. And I'm sure a lot of his victims would have been a high risk lifestyle like Janet Benoit. So who knows? In a lot of the cases, DNA may not even been issued to be collected at that time, or the DNA was so degraded it couldn't be used. But now with advances in DNA and all this genealogy DNA that's being done where, you know, they can tell who you are by your sister, your mama, or whomever getting into these databases. And I think as that grows and becomes more acceptable, that these databases are used by law enforcement to find any kind of relative match. Shit. Yeah. And I heard the last Mark Lewis. You can believe that. I promise you they're going to get him on something else. Ford Stein. But him, he's in Angola. He's where he needs to be. Two life sentences and he's never getting out. Now, let's take it a step further. They have a program now where victims, families members and offenders can meet. And. But they have it in Louisiana. They have in some other states also. And Ms. Danette, God bless her, she actually took part of the program and she went to meet Mark Lewis at Angola. Now, it's not like I want to wake up in one day and go meet the killer of my daughter, right? So it's a like a screening process and he has to be prepared and they have to prepare her. So it's a lengthy thing that leads up to it. But the just of it is she's a very brave lady. And she went in and she met him. And this is why I say that in the descriptions of the episodes that he victimized people as recently as 2018, where he tried to victimize Ms. Danette in this meeting. So they go in, they have the meeting in San Angola, and there's the counselors in the room. And Lewis comes in, he's his cocky self, and she just. I asked him why, you know, tell me what happened. I want to know exactly what happened. She said, how did you get her to your house? And he said, oh, I offered her a snack. And she said, well, what'd you offer? And he said, like peanut butter and jelly. And Mr. Net knew that Caitlyn didn't even like that. Right? She was like, I know he's not. She'd say, she doesn't curse like that. But she said knew he was lying because she didn't even like that. She said, but at least he was talking. And I want to hear. But she said, I told her that that's not true. And he ends up saying that he called her over to get high on drugs. Now, that to me, is victimization, okay? He's trying to hurt her in any way that he can. And by degrading Caitlin, saying she was going over to do dope with him, that. That is a fucking load of bullshit, okay? Nothing, nothing, no proof, no anything that Kaylin ever even thought about drugs. I mean, I would bet my life on it that she did. She truly was a sweet, innocent girl. Anyway, he tried to say that's what it was. And then he said that he choked her to death from behind. He didn't say that he tried to rape her or whatever, but that's what happened, y'all. I mean, I think he got her over there. He'd been masturbating the porn all day. He had been thinking about her for two years, since he looked up her shorts and he'd been trying to groom her, trying to set up this thing. And in his mind, he had this fantasy that she was going to come over there and he's going to be this smooth player and he was going to have sex with her, right? So. But he gets over there and I don't know how he got her in the back guest bedroom. But when he does, Sugar turns his shit and his fantasy doesn't become reality because Kaelyn truly is a sweetheart, young, innocent girl. She wasn't going to do it. She wasn't going to have sex with him like he thought she was. And so when she says no, and I'm guessing he unzipped her pants and she resisted and he panicked like a little bitch and he choked her to death. And then he panics again and goes and disposes of her body. But the fact that Mr. Netwin did this is really important. I'm sure it's important for her on. On personal levels to try to get some type of closure, but it's really important from a legal standpoint, because it's the first time Lewis ever admitted that he killed Caitlin. So when you do that and you have witnesses to it, you can't appeal. There's not going to be these 12 years of appeals, him saying he's innocent. Us as the cops, we got it wrong. So Mr. Net really is a warrior in my mind. First all to be tough enough to sit down with that piece of shit. And look him in the eye and listen to him lie about Caitlyn and degrade her character or whatever. But Ms. Annette knew Caitlyn's heart. She knew she wasn't into drugs, and she knew she's dealing with a monster. And Lewis, right, she absolutely stopped any chance of him ever getting out of prison for Caitlyn's murder by getting him to say that he choked her to death. Now, Lewis's problem is he's a narcissistic, psychopathic piece of shit. And I'm sure that he got much pleasure out of sitting across from Mr. Danette and saying those degrading things about Caitlin and trying to victimize Ms. Danette again. But fuck you, Lewis. Joke's on you when you said you strangled her to death and from behind, you just sealed your fate forever. So couple that with the fact that he pled out to murder and Janet Benoit, then he's never going to get out of prison, and he's going to die in prison, and that's where he deserves to be, and that's what deserves to happen to him. But I want to say this. We do the sphincter scale, and on a rating, scale of assholes, from one asshole being a person who should barely be on probation, probably to 10 being the worst of the worst. And then we have our ultimate here, murder by you. Which murder by you means you should get the death penalty. You shouldn't be breathing. You don't even deserve to live. Mark Lewis is murdered by you all the way times infinity. And I want to add this now, I know somebody up in Angola has heard about real life, real crime, the podcast by now. And even though they don't have the Internet and they don't have the ability to listen technically to podcasts, etcetera, I know that they have inmates in there that have cell phones that have wireless service, that have Internet service. Okay? That's a big deal. Now, when I worked in corrections 30 years ago, we didn't have cell phones. So when a deal about prisoners smuggling in cell phones, whether it's through paying off guards to bring it in or family members or getting it through visitation, however they're getting it, they have it. It's a really big deal. Now, think about it. You're doing life in prison. If you could have a cell phone and you'd have to wait in line on the payphone and call your family members collect, plus you can search the Internet for porn or whatever it is you want to search for. I mean, it's a big deal. So hey, fellows, up there at Angola, whoever it is that's listening to me right now, I would like to request that you identify Mark Lewis, Screwdriver red. Now, remember, he's a smooth character, and I'm pretty sure he's chumming up whoever and buddying up to him. But the deal is, I know the convict code, and that is, if you're a rapist or a child molester or child murderer, then the convict code is you get dealt with. And I don't want Mark Lewis to slide his way through on his charm and his wit. I want you to know that he murdered sweet baby innocent girl because he tried to rape her and she wouldn't do it. He is a baby murderer. And I know in the convict code, there's nothing worse than that. So, y'all, Mark Lewis. Mark Sterling Lewis, Screwdriver red. He's up there. He's on the farm right now. That's what they call Louisiana state penitentiaries. Over 5,000 acres, and they have hard labor. They make them raise their own food and everything else. So, y'all, whoever's listening, spread the word about Mark Lewis and show them some love from the convict code. And when you do it, tell them Woody from Real Life, Real Crime, the podcast sends his love. I'm gonna conclude that. I'm gonna conclude this series. And y'all know it was a long series, but. But it's a lot of information, and I wanted to take my time and try to do it right and in a respectful way for the family and the victims. And I got a message yesterday from Kayla Bourgeois, who was Caitlin's best friend. And she was also the last person to speak to her that day before Mark Lewis called over and murdered her. Remember, she called and said, we can't talk right now. I'll call you back. And then Kayla called her back, and she didn't answer. Kayla said she wants to thank me and that it was hard to hear, but that I did a good job with it and I told the truth, and she really appreciated it. And she also sent me some pictures of her and Caitlyn. I mean, they were literally best friends, all from, like, time they were little. And so she sent me a collage of pictures of her and Caitlin together. And then, you know, she. After all these years, it may brought a tear to my eye. So, Kayla, I appreciate that, and thanks for sending and thanks for the words, because I thought about doing this episode for a long time. It's just tough. It's just like it was yesterday. Anyway, thank y'all, for listening. I really, really appreciate it and I hope you enjoy the series. Now, this is actually going to conclude the first season of Real Life, Real Crime, the podcast, everything we've done up until now is going to be included in season one. And so next week, we're going to be starting season two. And with that, we're going to have a lot of new stuff, new audio, new formats, more information, etc, and we'll get to that. We'll surprise y'all with a lot of it. But I want to thank y'all, each and every one of you, for listening, and it means a lot to me. The. The fan support has been amazing. We're over 93,000 downloads, y'all, in just over three months. And it's just amazing. Means the world to us. So I want to say thank you to our patron members. You're absolutely fantastic and we love you. And I want to say a couple names real quick. And then later on this week, I'm going to be putting out an episode. It's not about crime, but it's going to be explaining some things about the show and what changes we're going to be making and listing all the patrons on it, etc. But today I want to tell you about a really, really cool lady that I owe an apology to, and her name is Jen Sawicki. Okay? Now, Jen came up to me at CrimeCon this weekend in New Orleans and introduced herself along with her friend Rika. And they're both have been patron members since we started Patreon. And y'all know that I give a shout out to patron members at least once a month, right? Somehow I left Jen out of it. And when she told me, she said, but you never said my name. And her and Rika worked together. She was like, you said Rika's name X amount of times and whatever. I said, I don't believe that. I said, I just absolutely don't believe that I missed it. I said, maybe did you not have your last name on there? I said, because I don't remember the last name. She said, no, no, I. You just didn't say it. I said, maybe. I said, jen, and I don't have your last name. She said, no. I said, I promise you, Jen. I mean, I can almost certain that I said it. So the next day in the hotel room, I go back and I listen to every episode since she. Since Jen Swicky became a patron member. And guess what? She was right. I never said her name. So Jen, now Jen has a daughter named Cora and she is a fan also. So I want to give the biggest, fattest, longest shout out ever to my new dear friend, Jen Sawicki, who is from the Phoenix, Arizona area and her daughter Cora. I love y'all. Jen, you are a blast. We had so much fun at CrimeCon. You have a great spirit and great personality. And guess what, y'all. Jen, Henrika were my first autographs I ever signed. So that was kind of cool. And it was also kind of cool just people coming up say, hey, we're a fan. And I mean, just blew my mind. But Jen, I apologize for not having ever acknowledge you as a patron member. I'm doing it now. I love you. I appreciate you. Thank you for backing us, supporting us and we had so much fun with y'all at CrimeCon and we're looking forward to seeing you again. And this week, the episode that I'm gonna do about the new show, announcements, etc. Jen and Rika were actually help, help us come up with some new names for patron stuff, etc, and I'm explaining that in the episodes, but they were just fantastic. Love them and we'll never forget them. So, and real quick, three more patron members that joined this week, Meg Mihali, it's M I H A L Y mega. Really appreciate you and I thank you so much. You're awesome. And then y'all, Shayla Bourgeois, who was Caitlyn's best friend and she's the one that sent me the comment yesterday about I did Caitlyn's story of proper telling, I guess you would say. And it really meant that, really meant the world to me. On top of that, she joined as a patron member. So Shayla, really, really appreciate you. And you know that I messaged you yesterday in death and your words of kindness meant a lot to me and I really appreciate you and thank you so much for becoming a patron member. You're awesome. I really appreciate it. And y'all, we have another lady we met at CrimeCon, Ms. Roxanna Camara. Musa. Musa. And she's from South Carolina. And what a blast she was also, and she joined as patron. Roxanna, thank you for doing that and supporting us through Patreon. Thank you for listening and thank you for your personality and the fun that we had in your ones. You're awesome and I love you. 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