True Crime Time for April 2, 2025 | Gerhardt Konig Update, Babysitter Stabs Child, Casey Anthony Becomes Legal Advocate

Summary

Real Life Real Crime: True Crime Time for April 2, 2025

Hosted by Woody and Cindy Overton

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Episode Overview

In this engaging episode of True Crime Time, hosts Woody and Cindy Overton delve deep into some of the most gripping and disturbing true crime stories currently making headlines. From updates on high-profile cases to shocking new developments, the Overtons provide insightful commentary and their signature blend of candid discussion. This summary captures the key discussions, insightful analyses, and compelling narratives presented in the episode released on April 2, 2025.

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1. Gerhardt Konig Update: Attempted Murder in Hawaii

Timestamp: 00:39 – 11:10

Overview: The episode opens with an update on the Gerhardt Konig case, where a Hawaii-based anesthesiologist and engineer, Gerhardt Konig, 46, is accused of attempting to murder his wife, Ariel Konig. The incident occurred at the Pali Lookout, a scenic cliff 1,200 feet high, where Konig allegedly tried to push his wife off the edge.

Key Details:

• Attack Description: Ariel claims that Konig struck her repeatedly with a rock, bashed her face into the ground, and attempted to inject her with a syringe before trying to throw her off the cliff. She maintained that Konig became enraged when she refused to take a photo at the specific spot, expressing her discomfort with the location's proximity to the edge ([04:39] Woody).

• Witness Accounts: Two hikers witnessed the assault, with one calling 911 and another staying with Ariel until the authorities arrived. After the attack, Konig fled the scene but later admitted his attempt on a FaceTime call with his adult son, stating, “I just tried to kill Ariel, but she got away” ([05:37] Woody).

• Additional Allegations: Ariel's restraining order documents reveal that Konig had been sexually abusing her for months leading up to the incident. The couple had been attending both individual and couples therapy, but Ariel alleges that Konig's behavior escalated, culminating in the violent attack ([06:14] Woody).

Notable Quotes:

• Woody Overton reflects on Konig’s actions: “You can't shove her off the cliff, beat her in the face, and try to stab her with a syringe. What a man you are” ([08:09] Woody).

• Cindy Overton emphasizes the severity of Konig’s actions: “I know it's our prostitution, but if we know beyond a shadow of a doubt that you're guilty as fuck, I've got a video. You do not deserve a trial” ([10:23] Cindy).

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2. Babysitter Stabs Child: Marquita Phillips Arrested in Las Vegas

Timestamp: 17:02 – 24:09

Overview: The Overtons discuss the harrowing case of Marquita Phillips, a 41-year-old woman arrested for the fatal stabbing of a three-year-old girl she was babysitting in Las Vegas.

Key Details:

• Incident Details: On March 26, at approximately 3:36 AM, Las Vegas Metropolitan Police responded to a stabbing report. They found the toddler with fatal stab wounds. Phillips was apprehended nearby and charged with open murder with a deadly weapon ([17:22] Cindy).

• Motive and Relationship: Investigations revealed that Phillips and the child's father had an on-and-off relationship. Personal grievances were suggested as the motive, evidenced by letters found during the police sweep of the apartment. However, authorities have not disclosed specific motives ([19:01] Woody).

• Police Response: Upon the father discovering the scene, Phillips fled the apartment, leading to her arrest. The Overtons express their condemnation of Phillips’ actions, highlighting the brutality of killing a child and questioning her accountability ([19:19] Woody).

Notable Quotes:

• Woody Overton condemns the act: “He killed a kid. Dad probably went to work or something and comes home, baby's dead” ([19:29] Cindy).

• Cindy emphasizes the severity: “You do not deserve a trial” ([24:09] Woody).

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3. Casey Anthony Becomes a Legal Advocate

Timestamp: 35:58 – 43:07

Overview: The episode shifts focus to Casey Anthony, who, after her controversial acquittal for first-degree murder in the death of her two-year-old daughter, Kaylee Anthony, has re-emerged as a self-proclaimed legal advocate on social media platforms like TikTok and Substack.

Key Details:

• Social Media Presence: Casey Anthony has amassed over 80,000 followers on TikTok, with her content reaching nearly five million views. She presents herself as a legal expert and researcher, aiming to provide tools and resources for those seeking legal guidance ([35:58] Woody).

• Public and Professional Criticism: Former prosecutor Nancy Grace voices strong opposition to Anthony’s new role, stating, “The devil has to come up through the ice when hell freezes over before I will give her a penny” ([36:29] Woody). Grace criticizes Anthony for profiting from her case without a legal conviction.

• Case Recap: Woody provides a brief overview of Casey Anthony’s trial, highlighting the circumstantial evidence presented and her subsequent acquittal, which remains a polarizing topic in true crime circles ([40:02] Woody).

Notable Quotes:

• Nancy Grace's harsh critique: “The devil has to come up through the ice when hell freezes over before I will give her a penny” ([36:29] Woody).

• Woody's frustration with Anthony’s new role: “She’s making serious, serious bank off of the death of her daughter” ([42:12] Woody).

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4. Trending True Crime Stories Overview

Timestamp: 43:07 – 48:18

Overview: Woody and Cindy provide a rapid-fire overview of other high-profile true crime stories that are trending. These include updates on Rex Herriman, the Long Island serial killer suspect, and various ongoing cases related to Ruby Frank and her controversial activities.

Key Highlights:

• Rex Herriman Cases: Discussion revolves around Herriman’s acclimation to jail awaiting trial for multiple murders. The hosts touch on his divorce settlement and the impact of his alleged crimes on his family ([45:16] Cindy).

• Ruby Frank’s Legal Troubles: Multiple facets of Ruby Frank’s legal issues are covered, including her unethical family vlogging, the impact on her siblings and parents, and her continued arrests ([46:02] Woody).

• Other Notable Cases: The duo briefly mention the murder of Selena Quintanilla’s killer, Yolanda Salvador, and her recent parole denial, emphasizing the ongoing nature of these high-stakes cases ([47:10] Woody).

Notable Quotes:

• Woody expresses admiration for law enforcement actions: “Score one for the good guys. Score one for street justice” ([25:48] Cindy).

• Cindy questions law enforcement protocols regarding deadly situations: “You are like, put your arms up and how can you do that getting out?” ([25:57] Cindy).

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5. Conclusion and Upcoming Events

Timestamp: 48:18 – End

Overview: Wrapping up the episode, Woody and Cindy reflect on their diverse portfolio of true crime content, emphasizing their commitment to covering a wide range of cases. They also announce an upcoming live event on July 19 at Southeastern Louisiana University’s Student Union Theater, inviting listeners to join them for an evening of in-depth discussions and engagement.

Key Points:

• Content Diversity: The hosts highlight their various projects, including the original Real Life Real Crime, “#JusticeFor”, “Scorched”, and “True Crime Time For,” catering to different aspects of true crime storytelling ([48:17] Woody).

• Listener Appreciation: Acknowledgment of their loyal fanbase, referred to as “lifers,” and encouragement to attend the live event ([48:18] Cindy).

Notable Quotes:

• Woody on their content offerings: “We give you a melting pot. I think we pretty much got it covered from just about every angle” ([47:37] Woody).

• Cindy’s excitement for the live event: “It's going to be awesome” ([48:39] Cindy).

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Final Thoughts

In this episode, Woody and Cindy Overton blend detailed case updates with their trademark candid and sometimes irreverent commentary. Their ability to break down complex cases into engaging narratives makes True Crime Time a must-listen for true crime enthusiasts seeking both depth and accessibility in their content.

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Transcript

[Cindy Overton]

Foreign.

[Woody Overton]

Hello, everybody, and welcome to this episode of True crime. Time for Wednesday, April 2, 2025. And I'm Woody Overton.

[Cindy Overton]

I'm Cindy Overton.

[Woody Overton]

It's time for True crime. Time for hump day. I know in the beginning of August.

[Cindy Overton]

August.

[Woody Overton]

I mean, April.

[Cindy Overton]

How was your live event?

[Woody Overton]

Oh, yeah, it was kicked ass. Look, we got life for your birthday.

[Cindy Overton]

It was Dubs's birthday.

[Woody Overton]

It was very good. Hey, speaking of the live event, they're coming in from all over the country.

[Cindy Overton]

All over the country.

[Woody Overton]

And it's awesome. Y'all go to any of our social media where somewhere we could tell them to go so they don't have to just go randomly search social media like. Like a ww, Not WWW Something, whatever.

[Cindy Overton]

Oh, I can. I can create like a. They're called Bitlys. It's like a little bitty link like we used to do in the past. I can create this.

[Woody Overton]

Let's do that. So we can make that. So y'all get your tickets. Sydney's gonna create a little short, fast link thing so you don't have to go search all. I'll just be able to say go to whatever, whatever, whatever.

[Cindy Overton]

RC Live or something fun like that.

[Woody Overton]

Right. Or see live 2025.

[Cindy Overton]

Right.

[Woody Overton]

Stay in life. Older, little bit slower, probably not wiser, according to Cindy. All right. All right, y'all. So we've been telling you about these stories that are repetitive, if you will, over and over again in the news. And I guess it's like Scott Peterson, the scorch is because people love to hear about. And the one I'm going to tell you about again today, I was telling you other day that there's gonna be a lot more to the story, and it involves the Hawaii doctor who tried to push his wife off the cliff. Right. And, you know, we hadn't told him that the Dr. Phil show reached out to us to be on a. About this story. So we're certainly going to talk about it because we talked about last week and got some national attention. There's like three more things that just popped even.

[Cindy Overton]

Cool.

[Woody Overton]

And.

[Cindy Overton]

Well, I mean, at least more information because in the beginning there was none, so.

[Woody Overton]

Yeah. Well, I'm gonna kind of try to mix these together for you. It started with the first thing I had read was that some other hikers actually saw him beating her with the rock. Right. And before he ran like a little. And, you know, of course, she tried to escape multiple times. And it was 1200ft up, not a thousand feet like they originally reported. Well, you Ask yourself this doctor and this engineer, but what could lead to that? Well, I'm going to tell you a little bit more about it now. First of all, I'll tell you what he allegedly said when he went to shove her off the cliff. All right, so. And he's anesthesiologist, like we told y'all, from Hawaii, and he's accused of trying to murder his wife by throwing her off the scenic cliff. And he admitted to. To the crime on a FaceTime call with his son right afterwards.

[Cindy Overton]

Wow.

[Woody Overton]

Yep. So he, Gernock Koenig, 46, is being held on on the attempted murder charge after trying to push Ariel, his wife, off the side of the cliff and Hawaii last week. Now, she says that her husband. And then she's, they say, alleged. I don't like that because of other people actually saw it. She said that her husband repeatedly struck her in the head with a rock, bashed her face into the ground, and tried to inject her with a syringe after trying to throw her off that cliff at the Pali lookout, which is 1200ft high. She claims that Gearhart got angry when she refused to take a photo with him on the specific spot, but she was uncomfortable because it was so close to the edge.

[Cindy Overton]

Don't blame her.

[Woody Overton]

Right. Well, wait till you find out the other that's been going on. So that's when he grabbed her arms, pushed her towards the edge of the cliff and screamed at her. And she claims that she's gotten restraining order since. And she said Ghart yelled, get back over there. I'm so sick of you. And she says she pleaded for help during the attack, saying that he was trying to kill her. And of course she escaped. And that's what the two witnesses, one of them who called 911, and the witness stayed with Ariel while he ran like a little. But this idiot, right after he does it, he calls his adult son and he admitted to trying to kill her. And he made a remark. He said, she got away.

[Cindy Overton]

Wow.

[Woody Overton]

Right. And they said he appeared to be covered in blood when he called his son, who was from a previous relationship, called him on FaceTime so his son could see the blood. Right. And he claimed, I just tried to kill Ariel, but she got away. Ariel claims in the petition, the restraining order, that she had learned this information during the investigation. And even though the restraining order doesn't cite the source of information. Right. Your heart then tells his son he planned to jump off a cliff and die by suicide. I guess he was too much for a little to do that.

[Cindy Overton]

Yeah.

[Woody Overton]

Instead, he just ran like he's gonna get away. So now let me tell you the next part of the story. All right, you got that? And it goes on, but then everybody picks up on it and more information keeps coming out. Now, she's saying on top of everything else, that her husband, who tried to throw off a cliff, she also saying he had been sexually abusing her for months prior to the attack. And then, I mean, back in the. The day. Day, really, nobody got charged if he was your wife with sexual abuse, but rapist. Right, Right. But again, you know, she talks about how he attacked her. He's 46, she's 36. And of course, she survived. But she said in that. Another part of the restraining order that Gearhart had been sexually abusing her for months in the lead up to the incident. Now, she didn't provide a time frame for when the sexual abuse and assault occurred, but she noted in the same petition that it was a significant update in the couple's lives. In December, she claims that her husband, Gerhardt, accuses her having an affair and had extreme jealousy. She said, since then, he has attempted to control and monitor all my communications. And this is in the petition. And added that the couple have been going to individual and couples therapy. And Ariel says that Gearhart became enraged after he asked to take that photo with her on the edge. And she said she was uncomfortable with it. And that's when Gerald got angry and began to push her back towards the cliff edge. He screamed at her, like, I told you, go back over there. I'm so sick. You. But she said initially she thought it was a joke.

[Cindy Overton]

Wow.

[Woody Overton]

Right. And then she said, I quickly realized he was seriously trying to make me fall off the cliff. And she managed to flee after a few unaccessful attempts. And that would be when he's smashing her head in the ground and beating her in the face with a rock.

[Cindy Overton]

Right.

[Woody Overton]

The crazy. But she escaped from him and he ran like the little. And that's when he called his son on FaceTime from another relationship and adult son covered in blood. He said, I'll try to kill the. She got away. He's.

[Cindy Overton]

I mean.

[Woody Overton]

But. But this whole. But I don't understand. And I'm still waiting on coming out. And it will. This whole syringe thing. Yeah. Why are you carrying a syringe on? They hadn't said what was in the syringe yet. Why are you carrying the syringe? And you can't. You're such a wuss. First of all. You can't shove her off the cliff. Then you beat her in the face and everything. And you still can't shove her off the cliff because she's fighting back. What a man you are. And then you pull out a syringe and then I'm gonna inject your ass and then maybe I can throw you off the cliff.

[Cindy Overton]

Yeah, yeah.

[Woody Overton]

He's got issues.

[Cindy Overton]

Well, he's got major issues. But so. But he says that he was gonna kill himself too. He was?

[Woody Overton]

Yeah. Yeah. Oh, yeah.

[Cindy Overton]

If he successfully threw her off, then he was gonna go.

[Woody Overton]

No, I think he was. It was after the failed attempt, he was feeling like a little. That he is. And he calls his adult son maybe to say goodbye, covered in blood. And she got away. And you know what? I'm gonna jump off a cliff and kill myself.

[Cindy Overton]

Oh my gosh.

[Woody Overton]

If he had done that, we probably wouldn't be talking about it. He. I can't wait to hear what his defense is going to be.

[Cindy Overton]

I can't either. Well, that his wife cheated on him when I made him go crazy.

[Woody Overton]

Okay. A lot of wives and husbands cheat.

[Cindy Overton]

I'm just.

[Woody Overton]

They don't shove people off a cliff and beat him in the face and try to stab them with syringe.

[Cindy Overton]

Right, but that's not a defense. Well, I know it's not a defense. I'm just saying that's going to be his defense.

[Woody Overton]

But how would that work as a defense? Well, my wife cheated on.

[Cindy Overton]

How would it work to push your wife off the cliff?

[Woody Overton]

He's not.

[Cindy Overton]

I mean, it's not like we're dealing with a logical man.

[Woody Overton]

I always said that you should be a lawyer, but you shouldn't have been a defense lawyer.

[Cindy Overton]

I would not have been a defense lawyer.

[Woody Overton]

That was. You'd have been a good lawyer otherwise.

[Cindy Overton]

Eh, I would not have been. Yeah, you're right. I couldn't. I would say take him. He's. He's guilty as fuck.

[Woody Overton]

Everybody has a right to defense. Fuck him.

[Cindy Overton]

No, he doesn't. If you're freaking guilty, you. I know it's our prostitution, but if we know beyond a shadow of a doubt that you're guilty as fuck, I've got a video. You do not deserve a trial.

[Woody Overton]

I totally, totally agree with you.

[Cindy Overton]

And then especially, like, there was one story we told recently. There was a. A child involved. And this man is still taking it to trial. And so now the child has to get up there.

[Woody Overton]

No, it's like under Danny Parker thing. Yes. Take yourself out, though. Do the only honorable thing and Just kill. Basically kill yourself.

[Cindy Overton]

Yes.

[Woody Overton]

So these kids don't have to go to court.

[Cindy Overton]

Cuz, you know, how can you be so freaking selfish?

[Woody Overton]

You know, I guess it does these stories like this Scott Peterson wasn't rich, but he murdered his wife and unborn baby. The. These other ones. I don't get it. This one? Yeah. I mean a beautiful scenic set. He's been sexually abusing you and you've been going to therapy and all. Maybe the therapist said, why don't y'all go hiking, take a walk.

[Cindy Overton]

Would he all do good together?

[Woody Overton]

Yeah, take a few pictures on the stand on the edge. Look, if he shoved her off, he would have been. It'd been like, oh, we were just taking a picture. She slept and fell and they could. They wouldn't have been able to prove it.

[Cindy Overton]

Emergency room anesthesiologist and stuff like that. I've heard that they start using themselves something upper to wake them up, something to put them to sleep and then they get an addiction. I'm not claiming that he does, but maybe he just was looping and. I mean maybe he's addicted to something and I don't. I mean there could be multi faceted things going on here.

[Woody Overton]

And that's why you're not a defense attorney.

[Cindy Overton]

I would not. I would never be a defense attorney client.

[Woody Overton]

I'd be like, that's the best you got. You better come up with something good. Where they Talking about me 30 years later, like Scott Peterson. Oh my God.

[Cindy Overton]

I'd be like, just cut it. Just tell him you did it.

[Woody Overton]

Let him ride right the.

[Cindy Overton]

Anyway, let's take you go take a picture. Let's do your mug shot by that cliff.

[Woody Overton]

Yeah, yeah. I'm gonna bring a syringe.

[Cindy Overton]

Yeah.

[Woody Overton]

After whatever.

[Cindy Overton]

I mean, I know that. Yes, we have the greatest government that there is. Well, all of it. I mean just the whole three branches. I mean the way that it's separated and all of that I get that.

[Woody Overton]

Is far from perfect. But it's.

[Cindy Overton]

But it's the best that there is. But it is definitely far from perfect. And I understand we cannot take a person's right to a defense away because next week I might be confused.

[Woody Overton]

Could be living in Hitler's times. They just lie against the wall and shoot you in the head.

[Cindy Overton]

Well, something could happen next week I get accused of doing it. And of course I want a defense.

[Woody Overton]

If something happens next week, nobody defender, let that girl ride.

[Cindy Overton]

I will be innocent, so I will deserve a defense.

[Woody Overton]

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[Cindy Overton]

I got. We're going to Vegas. Nothing like yours.

[Woody Overton]

Vegas. Vegas.

[Cindy Overton]

Nothing like yours. But this woman also does not deserve a defense. Okay, okay. So Las Vegas Authorities have arrested 41 year old Marquita or Marketa Phillips.

[Woody Overton]

What did Ms. Phillips do?

[Cindy Overton]

She fatally stabbed a three year old little girl. She was babysitting.

[Woody Overton]

There you go.

[Cindy Overton]

The incident occurred in the early hours of March 26 while the child's father was at work. And Las Vegas Metropolitan Police officers responded to the report of a stabbing at an apartment around 3:36am upon arrival, they discovered the young girl with stab wounds and despite immediate life saving efforts, she was transported to the hospital and pronounced dead. Phillips was apprehended near the scene and taken into custody. And she faces charges of open murder with a deadly weapon and had her initial court appearance on March 27. But investigations have revealed that the child's father and Marquita had on and off relationship. So she was and she was residing in the apartment. He is the one that found Phillips like the woman in the kitchen. He came home from work, found her in the kitchen with the knives and then discovered his daughter who was fatally injured. And they also, when authorities were doing the sweep of the apartment, they found like letters that she wrote and of course they were all suggested a motive for it, but they haven't said it. It was just personal grievances that they say right now was the motive that she put. They don't go into details about what.

[Woody Overton]

The personal grievances were set. So she killed a kid.

[Cindy Overton]

So then when the husband came home and found her in the kitchen with the knives, she ran away. She ran out the apartment and then the police came to the scene and then they found her not too far away. So she ran like the. That she is.

[Woody Overton]

Yeah. Wow. There you go.

[Cindy Overton]

That's horrible.

[Woody Overton]

Killed a kid. Dad probably went to work or something and comes home, baby's dead.

[Cindy Overton]

Yep.

[Woody Overton]

Well, I gotta ask Does Nevada have the death penalty?

[Cindy Overton]

I found this on the web.

[Woody Overton]

Gotta know, kind of a fascination of mine. Nevada was the first state in the United States to use the gas chamber and executed 32 men with the method from 1924-79. And all of them since 1979 have been carried out by lethal injection. And yes, they are still killing people, but I mean legally killing people.

[Cindy Overton]

Yeah, right.

[Woody Overton]

So that's crazy, crazy, crazy. They deserve it now. You know, I just, y'all heard me say it so many times. I wish I could put back on the uniform and the badge and, and the bulletproof vest and the heavy ass gun belt, all my, my bat belts. What I used to call it clown at unit go 108 in service and go hunting. Right. And whatever I don't know about nowadays. And I'm gonna tell you about two Virginia deputies who just doing what they do and they were out working and they were struck by gunfire during a fatal shootout with a wanted man at a Virginia truck stop. So on Friday, March 28, police in Greensboro, North Carolina informed the Carroll County Sheriff's Office in Virginia of a potential location of Edmund Johnson who was reportedly involved in a shooting in the area. And according to the CCSO and the Virginia State Police. All right, now I've done this numerous times. We'll get calls from other agencies saying hey, this dude murdered somebody. You know, his grandmother lives there and he's probably coming to the area to be on the lookout for, right? So they get the call about him and they as their heads on a swivel and they soon located him. And guess where Dave was from. He's 29 years old. Guess where he's from.

[Cindy Overton]

Louisiana.

[Woody Overton]

Absolutely, absolutely. So the CCSO soon located 29 year old Louisiana native who's also wanted in Washington County, Maryland.

[Cindy Overton]

He just gets around.

[Woody Overton]

He gets all the way around. And they found them at a loves truck stop in Landsburg, Virginia. Now I like loves truck stops when I make my trips. If, if I have not really if I have a choice, I, I, it's kind of like going to Hooters or something like that because you know the beer is gonna be cold. I like all the different coffee machines they have.

[Cindy Overton]

Oh that's it. That's true.

[Woody Overton]

And I get like the super hot triple caffeine mocha, white chocolate or whatever and then you got good snacks and.

[Cindy Overton]

And clean really good gas prices.

[Woody Overton]

They do, they do. They always are cheap. I will, I could tell you in between here in Wisconsin, every loves where it's at. So and you know Loves. They're pretty nice places. Yeah, right. So anyway, they. They find them at the lowest truck stop in Landsburg, Virginia. You know why they found him? Well, it was thanks to his tractor trailer which was parked at the truck stop off of the Interstate 77. So evidently he's a truck driver. That's why he gets around. So after the deputies with the CCSO responded to the scene, they found Mr. Johnson in his vehicle. And when Johnson eventually exited the tractor trailer, he exchanged gunfire with the deputies. So he gets out boom, boom, boom, boom, escorting Virginia State Police during the shootout, the two deputies were shot. That's. But guess what? No need for Cindy as the defense attorney for this motherfucker, because he was shot too. And he was shot fatally. They killed him dead. K I L T. But the deputies who were struck by gunfire were taken to nearby hospitals. And as of Saturday, March 29, both deputies are now in stable condition, as according to Carroll County Sheriff Kevin Kemp. Yay. Score one for the good guys. The identities of the injured officers not been publicized and investigation of the incident has been turned over to Virginia State Police. And yeah, that's natural, right? I mean, State police are going to go and investigating local shooting. Just so you can't say it's by special when they. They killed him good, right? Street justice, lead justice. Fuck you, motherfucker.

[Cindy Overton]

Right?

[Woody Overton]

So the Henry County Sheriff's Office, the ones that reported and they got these guys, they didn't get them shot, right? But they said be on the lookout for this. They said they send their thoughts and prayers to the deputies. They said, we ask our community to join us and lifting them up in prayer for a swift and full recovery, for strength and comfort for their families and colleagues during this difficult time. When one agency hurts, we all feel it. And we stand with Carroll county today and always. That just gave me goosebumps. The Bedford County Sheriff's Office also offered his thoughts of Paris in a Facebook post writing, we are deeply saddened to hear about the two officers involved in the shooting that resulted in their injuries. Right. The bravery and dedication of law enforcement officers who put their lives on the line every day for our safety cannot be overstated. I sir, they said, we stand in solidarity wherever our fellow deputies as they navigate through this challenging situation. Please join us in sending prayers and positive thoughts for swift recovery for the injured deputies and strength to their families and colleagues, as well as strength and support to all those affected by this incident. You know what? Score one for the good guys. Score one for. For street justice. This dude, he was a Bad apple. He was from down to bayou, somewhere in Louisiana. I don't know where. Yeah, but he's a truck driver or driving, committing crimes everywhere he went. And he was going to keep on doing it.

[Cindy Overton]

Yeah, he was.

[Woody Overton]

I mean, if nothing says I am going to seriously continue to be a criminal like you exiting your 18 wheeler and shooting two deputies.

[Cindy Overton]

That's what I was going to ask you. You. Because not that the, the deputies did anything wrong, but the procedure and the protocol to get someone out. You know, you're like, put your arms up and how can you do that getting out?

[Woody Overton]

Obviously they said eventually he exited. No, you totally do it. It's called a felony stop. And, and there's certain ways you position your vehicles and everything and you take cover. One of the units, one person only one gives commands over loudspeaker. But if they don't follow the commands, that whole scenario right out the window. You don't have a canine available. The canine can jump up and open. They have no thumbs.

[Cindy Overton]

Yeah.

[Woody Overton]

Open the door. What do you do? It's gonna turn off. It's a standoff because you know this dude's a bad dude. Right. But the tick, typically you have them roll down driver's side window, throw the keys out with. With their right hand, put both hands out of the window. Then keeping one hand up, use one hand to open the door. You're facing away. Keep and put your hands right by any point in time, they. This is allowing you just to focus on their hands. Yeah, of course. Now you don't know if there's anybody else in the vehicle. But the. You don't see the firearm. And I've never done one on a tractor trailer, but I've done it a bunch on other types of vehicles. But so their hands are facing away from me. Then you have them step out. He would have to step down, hands in the air. Once he reaches the ground, interlock your fingers behind your head, walk backwards to the sound of my voice till I tell you to stop. And they do that and you tell them to stop and you tell them, get on your knees. When they get on their knees, you come up from behind them, using their body as a shield in case somebody's going to shoot at you from the vehicle and use them for cover like a live human shield. And you get down behind them, cuff actually somebody, not the person is giving the commands. The other deputies, you practice, of course, felony stops, they call and they get them cuffed. And he asked me by us the vehicle. A lot of times they're gonna lie then you have to approach the vehicle certain way and clear it and. And all that. But this dude got out shooting, right?

[Cindy Overton]

Yeah.

[Woody Overton]

I mean and he had a higher vantage point. There's. We could what if it to death. But thank God they're alive and thank God they had true aim.

[Cindy Overton]

Yeah. Well also like you said, the commands are only as good as the person that's going to follow them, you know, I mean if you have a jackass of a felon, you're not going to.

[Woody Overton]

Yeah. He could have got out with a rocket launcher and his, his.

[Cindy Overton]

He might have wanted to have suicide by cop, you know.

[Woody Overton]

Absolutely. A lot of. A lot of people. Do you want to go to prison as I'm a cop. Killer. Killer.

[Cindy Overton]

Yeah. Yeah. So I have a little update about the funeral.

[Woody Overton]

Do you have one of those from Greenville, Mississippi? What's going on in Greenville, Mississippi? The dude's got bodies in the store slocking.

[Cindy Overton]

Well, so what happened? This exactly like what you said in the story. But once they started looking at. I just did like a little five minute quick little tick tock thing just because you said he was on tick Tock. So I just wanted to like whatever just do a little bit of.

[Woody Overton]

Did you do a post on TikTok?

[Cindy Overton]

No, I went to TikTok and just searched his name. And so this is in like the five minutes that I spent my time on it. What I found out is they found the three bodies in that storage locker. One of the bodies was someone's father who had a full funeral. But he was cremated.

[Woody Overton]

But he wasn't.

[Cindy Overton]

But he wasn't cremated.

[Woody Overton]

Can he take the time to spend a little propane to burn somebody out?

[Cindy Overton]

So they gave him ashes. And so they took those ashes and had them tested. And it was a female.

[Woody Overton]

Really.

[Cindy Overton]

So now everyone. So this one woman that's talking on TikTok, her daughter died a year ago. And she said Al, whatever his last name is, was amazing. He gave her an amazing funeral. She didn't question whether he. He's apparently not even a certified mortician. Mortician. And she thought that he would have to be because coroners go and get bodies and you know that they would have known whether he was certified or not. You know, so she trusted him. He did a really good job. And she now has ashes. Well, in the course of finding out, she presented her death certificate and the ashes certificate. It's false. It's not even a correct certificate. She doesn't know if she has her daughter. Now the whole town that has ever used him is in an uproar. They don't know who's who.

[Woody Overton]

And it might have ashes from his barbecue from fourth last. It could have been when. And then you need to tag Roy and Kristen.

[Cindy Overton]

I already sent her a video of. Of the audio of you.

[Woody Overton]

But when I got to tour the facility, they have several crematories and they had the pet side and the human side. And you go in the human side. This is kind of morbid. Morbid. But it's not, I guess, really not. And like my dad, right. He's got pins in his arms and like that from falls and stuff. Well, when you get cremated, the metal doesn't burn.

[Cindy Overton]

Right.

[Woody Overton]

And they had a bucket full of metal pieces that came out of people. But they actually. I hope I don't say it incorrectly. They do it when they get a certain amount of the metal. They get the. The metal value of it and they donate it. I think it's to wounded American veterans. The money that they get for it. So Roy and them don't let anything go.

[Cindy Overton]

They are.

[Woody Overton]

They are the. And we love them no matter what. I need some more season because I used it all.

[Cindy Overton]

Their website's live.

[Woody Overton]

Is it?

[Cindy Overton]

Yeah.

[Woody Overton]

I will just give them a call or more and. And tell them it whether, you know, they. They sponsors tonight. I used all I know. And I just realized this morning when I was putting it. Because I put it on everything when you cooked me breakfast, the one I was putting on there was actually the black and ash.

[Cindy Overton]

But the black and ash is amazing. I use that on almost everything that I could.

[Woody Overton]

It is very good.

[Cindy Overton]

But it's not meant for that.

[Woody Overton]

It's not the crime scene.

[Cindy Overton]

Yeah.

[Woody Overton]

But y'all will explain that later on. It's very, very cool for true crime fans.

[Cindy Overton]

Yeah.

[Woody Overton]

So. Well, there you have it. Since you did that one, you want me to do one?

[Cindy Overton]

Yeah.

[Woody Overton]

All right. Well, okay. We'll just do that. And I wasn't going to touch on this, but this case has always bothered me. And it's got a picture of your girl, Nancy Grace.

[Cindy Overton]

I met her and you knew.

[Woody Overton]

Go ahead to say it.

[Cindy Overton]

I met her at crime con.

[Woody Overton]

Exactly. Right. Yes. In the hallway. And she's a little bit tiny thing.

[Cindy Overton]

Tiny.

[Woody Overton]

But she was real cool.

[Cindy Overton]

She was very cool.

[Woody Overton]

Right. Well, you know, Nancy Grace, I kind of like her because she's a hard ass, straightforward. Yeah. She's. She gets down on it.

[Cindy Overton]

Right. She'd be the same kind of defense attorney I am.

[Woody Overton]

Well, yeah. Wow. Well, the one case she doesn't like the Casey Anthony I was just fixing to say. Yeah. So you know why she. Well naturally she got off and and we know that everybody in the world knows that. That should be a scores case.

[Cindy Overton]

Yeah.

[Woody Overton]

I mean for real mama killing the baby. But Casey Anthony, she's all famous and.

[Cindy Overton]

Now she's on Tick tock.

[Woody Overton]

Oh yes she is. And she made a splash on social media as a self proclaimed legal advocate and that. Did you know there's an online cannabis company that ships federally legal THC right to your door? And they found a way to combine THC with carefully selected functional ingredients, target nearly every mood and health concern you can think of. I'm talking about Mood.com's incredible line of functional gummies. And you can get 20% off your first order at Mood.com with promo code RLRC. Forget one size fits all supplements that only get you high. Mood's functional gummies are optimized to kick in as little as 15 minutes and take you to the mood that you're looking for. Whether that's mind magic gummies for deep work and creativity, PMS support to ease cramps and balance mood swings, or their sexual euphoric gummies to help you feel ready for action and turn every touch into a full body experience. Look y'all, you know I have trouble sleeping. I take the sleepy time gummy. I take a quarter of one before I go to sleep and I sleep hard all night long, never even move. Wake up feeling fresh as a daisy. So listen, you can find gummies to just get you high pretty much anywhere these days. But Mood's functional gummies combine premium federal legal THC with targeted botanicals to help you get into that perfect mood, usually in as little as 15 minutes. And everything ships discreetly right to your door. No dispensary lines, no awkward conversations, just better days and nights delivered to your doorstep. Best of all, not only is every Mood product backed by 100 day satisfaction guarantee, but as I mentioned, listeners get 20% off their first order with code RLRC. So head to mood.com, find the functional gummy that matches exactly what you're looking for and let Mood help you discover your perfect mood. And don't forget to use promo code RLRC when you check out to save 20% on your first order. Didn't sit well with Nancy Grace, who's always been one of her harshest critics. Nancy Grace is now she's also a podcast host, you know, and she says she is having none of it now. She actually was a Former prosecutor, not a defense attorney.

[Cindy Overton]

No, I know. That's what I knew. That's what I'm saying, Nancy. Right.

[Woody Overton]

So the former prosecutor says she was more than a little irritated when she learned that Anthony, who's now 39, who was famously acquitted of murdering her two year old daughter Kaylee, is now offering legal advice on social media. Grace, who hosts Crime Stories of Nancy Grace podcast, says that the devil has to come up through the ice when hell freezes over before I will give her a penny.

[Cindy Overton]

I can hear her saying that.

[Woody Overton]

And in early March, Anthony joined Substack and Tick Tock telling viewers in a Tick Tock video. I am a legal advocate, I am a researcher. I've been in the legal field since 2011.

[Cindy Overton]

Started working for her attorney.

[Woody Overton]

Yeah, it's probably banging him. But her goal, she said, is to give people tools and resources they can utilize so they actually know where they can turn to. Including her sub stack, whatever the that is. I can only imagine. Do you know what subsect I know?

[Cindy Overton]

I mean I've heard of it. It's another social media platform.

[Woody Overton]

Well, guess what? Oh girl. Casey has gotten more than 80,000 Tic Tac followers and her account has racked up nearly 5 million views.

[Cindy Overton]

Disgusting.

[Woody Overton]

Ought to do a story on this just because. Yeah, right. You're making it off your dead two year old baby, no doubt. The one thing I remember is Nancy Grace coverage like when the baby's missing, this is in Walmart buying cases of beer, literally and but anyway, years ago, Grace said she predicted the world hadn't heard the last of the tot mom the monkey or she famously gave to Anthony on her long running TV show. She said. I said we will hear from her again. And now Nancy has a new book out about first grade teacher Ellen Greensburg, who was controversial death in 2011. What happened, Ellen? It comes out actually on April 22, she said now she's making money off her daughter's death. And Grace has covered Anthony from the moment she learned. Kaylee was reported missing from her Florida home in July of 2008 and 31 days after the child actually vanished. And there's a picture of that sweet baby because you forget right that. So while police searched tirelessly for the wide eyed little girl girl, authorities quickly learned that her mom, then 22, was out partying, had taken part in a nightclub's hot body contest and it even gotten a tattoo the day before Kaylee was reported missing. And authorities found Internet searches for chloroform on her computer and traces of Chloroform and human decomposition in the trunk. That's why it scores. That's why I got to do it. But in October 2008, Anthony was charged first degree murder. And yes, they would have killed her ass. I already knew that. Two months later her daughter's badly decomposed body was found wrapped in a Winnie the Pooh blanket which was her little. Her little tt right?

[Cindy Overton]

Yes.

[Woody Overton]

And on her tiny lips, an expert testified was residue from a heart sticker as after the cessation of trial, Anthony was acquitted in 2011 of first degree murder, child abuse and manslaughter but was convicted of lying to investigators and got three years after her arrest and she was released in July 2011. This is why we're doing Haley's case.

[Cindy Overton]

Yes.

[Woody Overton]

Right. The guy they got him once stop charged that meant he did it. But they don't have him on the murder charge. But he wasn't acquitted. But in court Anthony's lawyers argued that Kaylee accidentally drowned in the family swimming pool and that Anthony and her father George Anthony covered up her death. And George Anthony was never charged with a crime and but he denies the allegations. Right. Throw a little shade on dad. As I said, proud father moment like that. But given Anthony's history, Grace lasts and says I truly do not believe that the public expects legal advice from tot mom. That's where self control comes in. Don't give in to the puriosity to see what tot mom says next. And I would agree with her on that but just I'm going to just read you one of the comments.

[Cindy Overton]

Okay.

[Woody Overton]

I had people commenting on it. This person Florida which she was from Florida if I'm not mistaken from Flora says on the one hand I am sure she has a wealth of useful information that a lot of people can't afford access otherwise. On the other hand this feels like it falls under that rule about not being allowed to profit from your crime. Except that she was never convicted of anything. What the you go ask on the street corner or go to any jail and get a jailhouse lawyer you got more experience that Casey Anthony does. But you know what she didn't give a about that whatever she says 80,000 followers we know this we about getting paid on Tick tock It's per people that look at your in murder. I mean I guess that's why we have real life or crime Murder is always going to sell murdering your kid is going to sell murder your kid and getting away with it and partying for 30 days or how many days before you even admit that she's gone and you let everybody come out and you act like you're the victim. Come on man. Come on.

[Cindy Overton]

I know y'all.

[Woody Overton]

If you want to hear scorched on Casey Anthony, put it in the comments. Let me know you want to hear because I. I'll have Leah Marie tear it up and you tear it up and I'll tear it up. That's. That's one that's always really, really got my goat. Yeah, and they the there no excuse for it shouldn't happen and that she's making serious, serious bank off of the death of her daughter.

[Cindy Overton]

Well, even better, allegedly she was having an affair with a man and they moved to Tennessee and then she followed him and then he broke up with his wife and is now with her. Now on top of being a murderer of your wife daughter child killer, your daughter killer, you're going to then tear up a family. He has kids too.

[Woody Overton]

Well, sick.

[Cindy Overton]

She is not.

[Woody Overton]

I'm sorry. She's the keeping in the theme like yesterday and today. I just wanted to give listeners an idea of what the top true crime stories are. Okay, okay, so one top again since, since we recorded last. Natalie Grace. You know what the. The headline is? This is how far they are reaching in these stories. Natalie Grace, the headline. Where are Natalie Grace's former adoptive parents now what we know about the Barnett and man's family's lives today. Wait, wait, not done yet. Lori Vallow. Remember that bomb, you know. Oh my God, I even watched this one. She killed her ex husband. I think it was in Arizona, wherever. Then they haul ass to Hawaii with the kids and all that. Her and the guy and all that and the cult stuff. Well, she's been convicted anyway. She's. Now they, they got a whole story on her about jury selection beginning in her Arizona murder trial. Okay then let's just roll down just a couple more. Another one about the Hawaii Doctor. It starts out with Hawaii Doctor. Another one about the Hawaii Doctor. Another one about Hawaii Doctor. All right, in. Hold on. Ruby Frank headline Ruby Frank's children Slam unethical family Vlogging. Say they won't follow in mom's footsteps. All right, here's one. Rex Herriman has become acclimated to jail as his ex wife continues to visit him. And I think he's, he's the serial killer from like Long island or whatever. And he's always in use to you. Oh, here's another one back to back with him. Where's Rex Herriman's family now? What we know about his wife and kids last two years after his arrest for the Gigolo beach murders. Yeah. And it just goes on. It's story after story about the same douchebags. The hold on. Another one. Where's Rex harbor now all about the Long island serial killer suspect's life in jail as he awaits trial for accusations of murdering seven women.

[Cindy Overton]

Yeah.

[Woody Overton]

And these are the top trinity story. Casey Anthony now self styled legal expert. Here's another one. Who are Ruby Frank's four siblings. What to know about her brothers and sisters and what they said about her case. All right, next one Where Ruby Frank's six kids. Now here's what happened to the family after vloggers 20, 23 arrests. Yeah, it just goes on and on. Oh, here's another one. Who are Ruby Frank's parents. What they've said about their disgraced vlogger daughter and what happened to their own YouTube careers after her arrest. Next one this, y'all. This is. This is a covering all true crime stories. This is how they're popping up. This is not a Ruby. I didn't do a research. Ruby.

[Cindy Overton]

Right.

[Woody Overton]

Next one, where's Ruby Frank's ex husband now? All about Kevin Frank's life two years after his ex wife's arrest and why he still says he loves her. Next one. Not make in Ruby Frank. Order. This is how they're popping up. Where are Rue Frank and Jody Hildebrandt? Now the details behind the shocking case inspired Lifetime's Mormon mom gone wrong. Next one. Ruby and Kevin Frank's divorce is official. What are the details of their agreement? Next one. Accused Gigolo beach killer Rex Hallman reaches divorce settlement with his estranged wife who thinks husband's not capable of alleged crimes. The very next one. He's trying to kill me. Woman screams as husband smashes her head with a rock on the Hawaii hiking trail. You can't make this up. Yeah, and I mean I could just go on and on and on the whole list and this is just what's trending. Brian Coburger, we talked about him yesterday. The another one on him. Oh, you know, a big one was this week. The lady, that lady, the. That killed Selena, the famous. Oh yeah, Hispanic store star. She was up for pearl this week. Of course they got denied. They got about 50 stores on her.

[Cindy Overton]

Yeah.

[Woody Overton]

And I mean who gives a Selena Quintella's family grateful after killer Yolanda was denied parole. And then where's Selena's killer now? Inside Yolanda Salvador's life behind bar nearly 30 years after the killing I mean, I guess. I mean, I. I'm not bitching. I mean, crime works, unfortunately.

[Cindy Overton]

I mean, I know you always say it pays her, but unfortunately, I just.

[Woody Overton]

Well, we kind of. We fell into it, and I think we bring a unique aspect to all that that we do. And, you know, some of it's funny, Some of it's definitely not funny. And, you know, the. The original real life, real crime, which we all will as soon as Scott Peterson is done has some more of those. And of course, we got hashtag justice for Haley, and we have the true crime time for show. It's a plethora of different things, and I like that. And a lot of people signed on for the original and don't like the others. Or a lot of people like the others and don't even like the original. Right. We give you a melting pot. I think we pretty much got it covered from just about every angle.

[Cindy Overton]

Yeah, we do.

[Woody Overton]

I mean, only because of y'all. Lifers are the number one fans in the world. Come see me on live on stage. July 19, Southeastern Louisiana University Student Union Theater. On the stage. Alcohol and food ahead of time. VIP event after.

[Cindy Overton]

Absolutely right. I can't wait.

[Woody Overton]

It'll be awesome.

[Cindy Overton]

It's going to be awesome.

[Woody Overton]

You got anything else? Well, there you have it, from the mouth of babes. We're out of here. And I'm Woody Overton. I'm Cindy Overton, the host of True Crime. Time for Wednesday Peace.