True Crime Time For April 28, 2026 | Father Charged in Fire Deaths, Child Torture Case, Cold Case Breakthrough & Shocking Assaults

Summary

Real Life Real Crime: True Crime Time For April 28, 2026 Episode Summary

Podcast: Real Life Real Crime
Host: Woody Overton
Date: April 28, 2026
Episode: True Crime Time | Father Charged in Fire Deaths, Child Torture Case, Cold Case Breakthrough & Shocking Assaults

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Episode Overview

In this intense and wide-ranging episode, Woody Overton delivers updates and chilling commentary on several active and resolved true crime stories from across the U.S. Topics range from a Wisconsin father now charged in the fire that killed his children, harrowing cases of child torture and abuse, a cold case rape and murder breakthrough in Louisiana helped by podcasting, and a series of shocking assaults perpetrated by professionals (from a UFC fighter to a fire lieutenant). Throughout, Woody’s seasoned law enforcement perspective and signature frankness bring each case into sharp—and sometimes emotional—focus.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Live Show and Community Updates

• Live show in Walker, Louisiana: July 18th, exclusive setting, opportunities for meet and greets. (03:00–04:10)
• Ongoing advocacy: Updates on the Madison and Haley cases, including forensic fundraising and community involvement. (04:15–05:33)

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2. Historical True Crime: Billy the Kid Escape (1881)

• Anniversary Mention: Billy the Kid’s infamous escape, killing two guards—called “one of the first things to ever go viral.” (05:33–06:37)
  • “That was probably one of the first things to ever go viral around the world and that was via snail mail and telegraph wires...” —Woody Overton, 06:37

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3. Family Matters: Father Charged for Kids’ Fire Deaths in Wisconsin

• Case Details: Joshua Cannon charged for abandoning his kids during a fatal house fire on Thanksgiving 2025.
• Victims: Riley (10), Connor (9), and Alina (7).
• The father claimed he tried to return for the kids but "had to turn back"; Woody casts doubt on this claim:
  • “I think 99% of the dads, you would have to not turn back from smoke inhalation. You have to be burning yourself.” —Woody Overton, 09:13
• No working smoke alarm; neglect and tragic loss highlighted.
• “I really just don’t understand leaving your kids to burn up.” —Woody Overton, 11:52
  Timestamps: 06:37–12:13

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4. Child Torture Case: Pike County Couple Sentenced

• Case Recap: Mary Hall and boyfriend Jerome Norman abused three children in their guardianship, locking them in a room, starving them, forcing labor, and subjecting them to “punishments” like food withholding. (12:49–15:26)
• Graphic Detail:
  • “He sucked the insulation in the walls to try and get water.” —Case official testimony, 14:45
• Both sentenced to 20 years—the max allowed under a plea.
• Woody’s reaction:
  • “20 years is not enough. 20 years in hell wouldn’t be enough.” —Woody Overton, 16:17

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5. Legal Update: Jessica Moats Murder Trial

• Details: Jessica Moats, accused of murdering four-year-old Autumn Fox, faces the death penalty; declined life without parole plea.
• Case Notables: Rapid trial progression is “almost unheard of” for a capital case.
• Expert Commentary:
  • “Death penalties are about the most complicated proceeding that a criminal court is going to undertake.” —Attorney Joshua Schiffer, 21:05
• “Find out, lady, they offered you life without—you wouldn’t take it.” —Woody Overton, 22:28
  Timestamps: 17:03–23:07

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6. Cold Case Breakthrough: Louisiana Teen’s 1982 Murder & Podcasting’s Role

• Background: The 1982 rape and murder of Roxanne Sharp in St. Tammany Parish, LA, solved after 44 years thanks to tips spurred by a dedicated true crime podcast.
• Impact of True Crime Media: New witnesses and public tips directly helped break the case, leading to arrests of four men.
• Crediting Persistence:
  • “Cold cases don’t close themselves. They close because people show up year after year and refuse to quit.” —Chief Michael Farrell, quoted by Woody, 27:00
• Woody connects this to his own advocacy:
  • “Never give up. Never surrender.” —Woody Overton, 24:15 & 27:00
    Timestamps: 23:12–28:39

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7. Shocking Assaults

a) Machete Attack Orchestrated by Drug Addict in UK (Stockton)

• Incident: Aaron Thistleweight (36) handed a 16-year-old a machete to attack an unsuspecting couple, causing severe head injuries (Aug 2025).
• Woody’s incredulity & commentary:
  • “How does a heroin and crackhead have a kid riding around with him with a machete in a bag and afford a taxi?” —Woody Overton, 31:45
    Timestamps: 28:59–32:56

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b) "F'd Up Professionals" Segment

i. Ex-UFC Fighter Assaults Daughter

• Offender: Tim Means, 42, ex-UFC fighter (the “Dirty Bird”), beats and headbutts his 17-year-old daughter during an argument over chores.
• Violence by a trained professional:
  • “Your 17-year-old daughter and you’re a professionally trained fighter.” —Co-host, 37:33
  • Description of the brutality: strangulation, headbutting, closed-fist punch, visible marks.
• Pattern of Violence: Means has history of violence and doping infractions.
  Timestamps: 36:33–40:47

ii. Fire Lieutenant Assaults 65-year-old During Rescue Call

• Incident in Broward, FL: Veteran fire lieutenant Carlos Lewin slams a 65-year-old man's head repeatedly and gouges his eyes during what was supposed to be a rescue.
• Notable moments: The assault is reported by fellow firefighters, leading to the lieutenant's arrest.
• Woody’s assessment:
  • "You're still supposed to be the professional, right?...you tell [them] to put him in ambulance where there's no cameras, because I'm pretty sure that's code for 'I'm about to beat his ass.'" —Woody Overton, 43:17
    Timestamps: 41:46–46:30

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8. Bizarre Grave Robbing: Texas Mother Digs Up Infant’s Grave

• Incident: Tamisha Drake (33) charged with abuse of a corpse after digging up and removing her deceased infant’s body.
• Woody reflects on possible mental health crisis vs. evil intent:
  • “I hope it’s a mental issue and, and not an evil issue because, like, I couldn’t even begin to comprehend what you would do with your infant baby’s remains.” —Woody Overton, 49:02
    Timestamps: 46:33–49:43

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• “20 years is not enough. 20 years in hell wouldn’t be enough.” —Woody Overton, [16:17] (on Pike County child torture sentence)
• “Never give up. Never surrender.” —Woody Overton, [24:15] & repeated regarding cold cases
• “Cold cases don’t close themselves. They close because people show up year after year and refuse to quit.” —Chief Michael Farrell, quoted by Woody, [27:00]
• “Your 17-year-old daughter and you’re a professionally trained fighter.” —Co-host, [37:33]
• “I hope it’s a mental issue…because I couldn’t even begin to comprehend what you would do with your infant baby’s remains.” —Woody Overton, [49:02]
• “It’s just unbelievable.” —Woody Overton, [46:30] (on the fire lieutenant’s attack)

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Timestamps for Key Segments

| Segment | Timestamp | |------------------------------------------------------|-------------------| | Live show community updates | 03:00–05:33 | | Billy the Kid escape anniversary | 05:33–06:37 | | Father charged in fire deaths (Wisconsin) | 06:37–12:13 | | Pike County child torture sentencing | 12:49–16:30 | | Jessica Moats murder trial preview | 17:03–23:07 | | Cold case, podcast solves 1982 murder | 23:12–28:39 | | Machete attack in UK (Stockton) | 28:59–32:56 | | Ex-UFC fighter Tim Means assaults daughter | 36:33–40:47 | | Fire lieutenant attacks rescue victim | 41:46–46:30 | | Texas mom digs up infant's grave | 46:33–49:43 |

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Tone and Style

Woody Overton maintains his trademark mix of impassioned outrage, seasoned law enforcement insight, dark humor, and empathetic reflection—especially regarding child victims and cases involving inexplicable cruelty or persistent advocacy. He frequently appeals to listeners for support, tips, and engagement, emphasizing community and the ongoing effort for justice.

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For Listeners: Essential Takeaways

• The tragic and sometimes unthinkable realities of true crime continue to unfold, but persistence—including crowdsourced tips, podcast advocacy, and responsible reporting—can make a real difference in securing justice.
• Woody’s stories illustrate both systemic failings and the moments where professionals (and everyday people) either rise to the occasion or cross the line into villainy.
• Community involvement, sharing, and raising awareness remains crucial, notably with hashtags like #WhatHappenedToMadison.
• Never give up—no matter how much time has passed or how unlikely it may seem that justice will be done.

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Closing Call to Action

• Support ongoing investigations: “Please continue to call in your tips. #WhatHappenedToMadison”
• Share posts using related hashtags to improve visibility and help these cases reach new eyes and ears.

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Engage, share, and support—justice relies on people refusing to stop fighting for it.

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Foreign. Hello everybody and welcome to this episode of True Crime time for Tuesday, April 28, 2026. And I'm Woody Overton, rolling solo again today because Sin is doing what she is doing behind the scenes and it's all super important stuff. Don't forget about our live show July 18th in it's going to be in Walker, Louisiana at the Southeastern Living Learning Center. The it's an awesome venue. I've done like I don't even have a show 6 or 7 shows there in the past. Patreon convicts first drink is on me and Big J. Chef Big J will have his food truck there. So it'll be food and drinks and a good time and it's 60 bucks

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and everybody's a VIP.

[Woody Overton]

It's going to be intimate setting. I'm going to stay as long as it takes afterwards to meet and greet and do all that good stuff.

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And then we have the hotel block

[Woody Overton]

at the Hampton Inn in Denham Springs, which is like 10 minutes away.

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So when you book your room a

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lot of y' all have already the life for some out of town. Use code, real life, real quick crime. Call them directly and book it. Use code, real life, real crime and get the discount. We're going to be there all weekend and if you've been to one of the live shows before, you know it's an all weekend party. But I will be doing a raw and unscripted adult never before heard story, Woody story. All right, so hashtag what happened to Madison that the episode came out on Saturday. Get we are getting the tips. We need you to continue to call the tips and hold on to your britches and see what's about to happen in this one. Right. And again real quick, the this week at some point I'm going to be displaying what Thomas Davenport attorneys donated to the calls to to be auctioned. And we're gonna we're raffle off two of them and auction off one of them live. And then that'll be to get the rest of the money for Scott wrote her in the evidence room to finish the forensic testing on Haley's case so we can prove beyond a reasonable doubt that she absolutely did not commit suicide

[Co-host or Guest]

and it was murder.

[Woody Overton]

So that being said, let's get down to some true crime time for today. And on this day in 1881, Billy

[Co-host or Guest]

the Kid, one of the OG outlaws,

[Woody Overton]

he convinced the guard to take him to the bathroom while he was incarcerated for the murder of Sheriff Brady, who was killed during the Lincoln county war.

[Co-host or Guest]

Now while being taken to the bathroom.

[Woody Overton]

Right. You escorting him and you know he's a.

[Co-host or Guest]

He's a killer.

[Woody Overton]

Well, the cop or the correctional officer wasn't prepared and Billy the Kid took his gun and killed him. Then he took a shotgun from the sheriff's office and killed another guard. So. And he got away. All. Everybody knows the rest of the story. Billy the Kid escaped his execution.

[Co-host or Guest]

The.

[Woody Overton]

That. That was probably one of the first things to ever go viral around the world and that was why snail mail and telegraph wires and everything else. An OG outlaw. So. All right, that being said, what are we going to start with today? It's time for family matters. You know, Being a parent and protecting your kids and in

[Co-host or Guest]

the.

[Woody Overton]

It's just. It's what you're supposed to do. Right. Well, we're going to Wisconsin. I'm gonna tell you about a dad who had kids. Riley who was 10 years old. Connor who was nine and Alina who were seven, who was seven. And they were killed in a fire back in November in their Wisconsin home.

[Co-host or Guest]

So guess what happened.

[Woody Overton]

It's been a lot of months after and their dad has been charged. Because he abandoned his kids inside the burning home where two of the kids died and then. And then the third was taken to the hospital and they later died. So the Victims again were 10 year old Riley Cannon and 9 year old Connor Cannon and 7 year old Alina Cannon and they were killed as a result of the house fire in Kenosha, Wisconsin on in their home on Thanksgiving in 2025. And it's according to Kenosha PD

[Co-host or Guest]

the

[Woody Overton]

children were named by the police but they were identified in local outlets as well as a GoFundMe which was set up Their father Joshua Cannon who according to a search warrant he had told the cops before that he had to turn back from the burning home with his children inside. But now he's been charged connection with the incident and this according to Kenosha County DA's office. According to the search warrant, the Joshua who's 39, the dad told police on Thanksgiving evening He and his two boys went to sleep between 9 and 10pm While Elena was still awake. Joshua told police he woke up soon afterwards with his eyes feeling cloudy when he saw a fire in the kitchen. It's all in search warrant. Y' all the quotations. Joshua stated he panicked and walked out the front door adding that he went

[Co-host or Guest]

to get A neighbor's help.

[Woody Overton]

When Josh returned to the residence to try to get back in, he told police he could hear his kids, but he had to turn back after he barely got two steps in. Well, I'm kind of calling bullshit on that one. I think 99% of the dads, you would have to, you know, not turn back from smoke inhalation. You have to be burning yourself. Right? So. And since then, investigators have determined the fire began after Riley and Connor tried to cook in the kitchen. And this according to the, the complaint. The, the, the warrant which was attained by everybody, the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel and the WTMJ and whatever. Joshua told police he had taken down the smoke alarm because of a possible malfunction and he had not replaced it. In the online obituaries, the children were remembered for their vibrant personalities and joyful spirits. Riley was a devoted older brother to his two siblings and he was a talented artist who had recently created YouTube channel titled Classic Sonic family. Connor was always looking out for other kids and was his sister Alina's protector. It's all an obituary all. And it adds that he loved the outdoors and was known for hard hugs. Alina had the personality of a girly girl and a tomboy all wrapped up in one. And it says she could be found skateboarding in heels and dreamed of becoming a veterinarian. Dr. Princess Unicorn Cannon has been the dad, has been charged with three felony counts of neglecting the child resulting in death. And this just happened, y' all said. I mean the rush just happened. So it's not clear if he has

[Co-host or Guest]

an attorney or not.

[Woody Overton]

I mean, you know, I guess you never know what you're gonna do in that situation. But I really just don't understand leaving your kids to burn up.

[Co-host or Guest]

Yeah, I don't, I.

[Woody Overton]

It's horrible. Horrible no matter what. I don't know what to say about that.

[Co-host or Guest]

I remember a case we had where the house was on fire and the kids were inside.

[Woody Overton]

And Brad True, he's a long time law enforcement, wonderful guy. He actually went in to the burning home and like threw the kids out and came out to find out later on the mom had set the fire. Just tragic.

[Co-host or Guest]

All right, y'.

[Woody Overton]

All, it's must be that kind of day. It's time for family matters.

[Co-host or Guest]

A Pike county couple was sentenced to

[News Reporter Ray Danna]

20 years in prison today in connection

[Co-host or Guest]

to a child abuse case that was reported last year. Wymt's buddy Forbes was in the courtroom and has the latest.

[Advocate or Commentator]

Our laws don't allow for cruel and unusual punishment even to prisoners. So they'll never be subjected to the kind of punishment that they subjected those children to.

[Prosecutor or Legal Reporter]

Mary hall and Jerome Norman appeared before Judge Eddie Coleman and Pike Circuit Court Friday, each entering a blind guilty plea for the roles prosecutors say they played

[Co-host or Guest]

in abusing three children placed under Hall's career.

[Prosecutor or Legal Reporter]

Hall took over guardianship of her sister's children after she died in a car crash in 2018.

[Advocate or Commentator]

Not only they lose their mother at that time, they also lost her father because her father was convicted of some type of manslaughter and had went to prison.

[Prosecutor or Legal Reporter]

Prosecutors say she moved to pike county with the children in 2023 when she began a relationship with Norman. And soon after, the principal and teachers at Kemper Elementary School, where the kids were enrolled, reportedly started taking note of mysterious bruises and hunger patterns displayed by at least one of the students. After a winter storm in 2025 left students out of the classroom for an extended winter break, those concerns turned into a complaint to the Kentucky State Police.

[Advocate or Commentator]

The teachers were looking to make sure he's okay and he was not okay. He was practically starved to death in five weeks.

[Prosecutor or Legal Reporter]

That complaint was followed up with an immediate investigation, and troopers say they found the children had been living in a room which was locked from the outside with boards over the windows. Social workers say the K were forced to do manual labor and punished in several ways, including withholding food, with one child seemingly receiving the brunt of the abuse.

[Co-host or Guest]

He sucked the insulation in the walls to try and get water.

[Prosecutor or Legal Reporter]

After attempts at mediation, the Commonwealth and attorneys for the defendants agreed on a blind plea for the duo, with attorneys saying the details of the case would be too emotional for a jury to see pass. And though prosecutors say Judge Coleman's sentence was the the maximum possibility for what was agreed and he imposed a 20

[Advocate or Commentator]

year sentence, we are pleased with that.

[Prosecutor or Legal Reporter]

Advocates say it will never truly be justice.

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There is no stimulus that standard or

[Co-host or Guest]

compensate for the children that these children in Pike County.

[Prosecutor or Legal Reporter]

Buddy Forbes, Wymt Mountain News tell you.

[Woody Overton]

Some kind of special hell these people have coming. The kids. I don't know if you could hear it. It said the kids had to suck drywall in an attempt to get water out of it because they were dying of thirst on top of everything else. Unbelievable. You know, it reminds me on David Constance case, his own biological son. He would send him outside every night. There was a bunch of them living in the house. Every time it came, dinner time is sit him outside to pick up cigarette butts and by the time he got done there was never any food left for him. So when he went to his aunt's house, his aunt, I told his aunt that afterwards and after the CAC interview and his aunt said, oh my God, that makes sense because he, I keep finding food hidden underneath his bed, you know, because poor baby never knew when they were going to get to eat. Can you imagine? 20 years is not enough. 20 years in hell wouldn't be enough.

[Co-host or Guest]

Okay, I'm not even gonna put this under a family matters, but here we go again.

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Jury is expected to begin this week in the trial of Jessica Moats in Hull County. You'll remember she's accused of murder and the death of a four year old last October. Buck size Ray Uranus left the live desk with a preview. And Ray, this could be a death penalty case.

[News Reporter Ray Danna]

That's right, Eric. Last month prosecutors offered Jessica Mose life without parole if she took a plea deal, but she declined that deal. We spoke with a criminal defense attorney who is not associated with the case and he says that the speed of the prosecution and the speed that they're moving is what stands out the most to him.

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[News Reporter Ray Danna]

year old Jessica Moats faces the death penalty as her trial is expected to begin this week in Hall County. She is accused of murder in connection to the death of four year old Autumn Fox last October.

[Attorney Joshua Schiffer]

This is a very speedy and timely prosecution that makes it difficult for the defense.

[News Reporter Ray Danna]

Roswell based attorney Joshua Schiffer is not associated to the case.

[Attorney Joshua Schiffer]

It's almost unheard of for a full death penalty prosecution to be commencing this quickly after the incident date. Death penalties are about the most complicated proceeding that a criminal court is going to undertake, according to a grand jury

[News Reporter Ray Danna]

indictment and arrest warrants. Moats is accused of causing the child's death through blunt force trauma. She's also accused of exposing the child to a combination of fentanyl, meth and Xylazine and accused of trying to conceal the body.

[Attorney Joshua Schiffer]

This is a relatively discreet and small prosecution that has allowed the state to move forward more quickly than they typically would, putting pressure on the defense.

[News Reporter Ray Danna]

Schiffer says. A death penalty case adds an additional complication to jury selection.

[Attorney Joshua Schiffer]

Excuses for cause are going to be more common when people have a moral objection to the death penalty being instituted at all.

[News Reporter Ray Danna]

Schiffer says in his experience, death penalty cases get appealed multiple times. He says he will be watching how tightly prosecutors present their case.

[Attorney Joshua Schiffer]

Very often the only defense in these very difficult death penalty cases is some sort of unforced error or problem from the state or the court that impacts a defendant's constitutional rights.

[News Reporter Ray Danna]

And again, jury selection is expected to start tomorrow morning at 9 at the Hall County Courthouse in Gainesville at the live desk. Ray Danna, Fox 5 News.

[Listener/Caller]

Yeah, all eyes will be on that case, Ray, thanks so much.

[Woody Overton]

Five zero around and find out lady, they offered you life without you wouldn't take it.

[Co-host or Guest]

And yeah, you blunt force trauma and all the dope and everything that a

[Woody Overton]

little four year old Jessica Moats had in her system, you're gonna catch, you're gonna catch the ultimate penalty as you should. And this guy's like, oh yeah, well

[Co-host or Guest]

you know, they, they get appealed.

[Woody Overton]

Yeah, everybody knows you stay on death

[Co-host or Guest]

row for 20 years unless you waive all your rights.

[Woody Overton]

And then the state takes 10 years to prove that you're sane enough to,

[Co-host or Guest]

to actually

[Woody Overton]

request the death penalty. But it is what it is, all right?

[Co-host or Guest]

This is why I say never give up, never surrender. And I love the podcast Medium Lifers

[Woody Overton]

are the best fans in the world. Yes, we've solved numerous cases and we're

[Co-host or Guest]

certainly trying to solve numerous more. But another podcast in the state of Louisiana is credited with helping solve a cold case. And let me tell you about it. So Louisiana, Texas are credited in a local podcast with Helping to solve the decades old rape and murder of a teenage girl. And over the past few days, police charged four men with aggravated rape. Now, y', all, that's first degree rape because they changed it since then, but they had to charge him under the old statute.

[Woody Overton]

But it's.

[Co-host or Guest]

They charged with aggravated rape and secondary murder for the killing of Roxanne Sharp 44 years after her body was found in the woods. Never give up.

[Woody Overton]

Just for Bradley. Never give up.

[Co-host or Guest]

Ms. Barbara Blunt.

[Woody Overton]

Never give up.

[Co-host or Guest]

Okay?

[Woody Overton]

The just never know when it's going to happen.

[Co-host or Guest]

So the backstory is the.

[Woody Overton]

Our Victim Sharp was 16 years old

[Co-host or Guest]

in 1982 when she was raped and murdered in the woods in St. Tammany parish, which is like two parishes over where I'm at now, maybe three. And it's about 30 miles north of New Orleans, and it's the last parish before you when you're going eastbound before you enter into Mississippi. So, as oftentimes happened, though, the case went cold and remained unsolved for decades until investigators asked a local media company to produce a podcast about Sharp's murder. And then the name of the podcast was who Killed Roxanne Sharp? And it went live last year with six episodes. And what happened? Reading right here in black and white, crucial tips from the public. And new witnesses contacted investigators. Same thing.

[Woody Overton]

We're asking one all the cases, right?

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They said it helped our investigators piece together where Roxanne was days before to the time she died to where we're at now. And this according to Louisiana State Police spokesperson Mark

[Woody Overton]

Gramillian, and said it was

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a very large help of getting that message out to the public and then therefore, those witnesses getting back to us. So Perry, Wayne Taylor, who's 64, Daryl Dean Spell, who's 64, Carlos Cooper, who's 64, and Billy Williams Jr. Who's 62, have all been charged in the connection with Sharp's death. Now, Cooper and Taylor, because they continue to be assholes, they were already in prison on different charges. And Williams and Spells were arrested earlier this week. Police said Sharp knew the four suspects and frequented the neighborhood where they live. The North Shore Media vice president Charles Dowdy, who helped produce the podcast, said his team didn't think there'd be much interest in the case, but we were quickly corrected. It's just like the cases we're doing,

[Woody Overton]

y', all, you know, trying to get justice.

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People want to help and.

[Woody Overton]

And a lot of time goes by

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and you have kids of your own and.

[Woody Overton]

And. Or some little thing that stuck in

[Co-host or Guest]

your head, call it in. Right. But in the end, I love this. The coveted police chief Michael Farrell said cold cases don't close themselves. They close because people show up year after year and refuse to quit. That is exactly what our agencies did. And today Roxanne and her family have justice they have waited for for so long.

[Woody Overton]

Hell to the yes on that. Congrats those people.

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Congrats to that podcast. Congrats to the law enforcement for actually working with the podcasters and not fighting them and actually wanting to solve the case and never give up, never surrender. And we're not the, you know, happens during investigations and cases go this way and they go that way. And if you're fighting against law enforcement because they, they messed up some stuff, then it makes it even harder on the case. But if you're working with the law enforcement like I am on Ms. Barbara's Blunt's case with Sheriff Art and the guys out of Livingston Paris, it's still hard. You know, you've got, you're dealing with murderers and these people don't want to go to prison, you know, and they got away with it for all this time. But now the worm has turned and

[Woody Overton]

those at in their 60s are finally

[Co-host or Guest]

going to be held responsible for the, the killing that baby girl. All right, this one next story, I just, I don't even know what to put it under foreign,

[Woody Overton]

But that there

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was a man who gave a 16 year old boy a machete and told him to chop a couple and that now this man's been locked up for six years. Aaron Thistleweight, who's 36, assisted and encouraged the attack on a man and a woman in Stockton which resulted in both victims suffering head injuries. And this according to the Teesside Crown Court judges. Judge Francis Laird KC said it was fortunate indeed the couple were not more seriously injured in the attack, which was prompted by Thistleweight becoming angry when they tried to avoid meeting him. This weight absolutely said, I didn't do anything wrong. But he was found guilty of intentional wounding while the boy admits the attack was detained for four years. And listen to this. The couple were walking down the street in the Hardwick area on the evening of 25th August last year when they saw a taxi pull up and Thistle Waite and Eve got out. Thistlewaite, who's a heroin and crack cocaine addict with the history of violence, he had previously stayed with the couple and they did not want to see him, so they turned and walked in the opposite direction. This weight shouted after them, then handed the boy a drawstring bag containing a weapon and told him to and this is in quotes chop them. This according to the judge in the court now although the they're calling a highly dangerous weapon was never removed from the bag. It was generally inferred it was a machete tight knife. According to the judge the youth hit the woman in the head first cutting her down to the bone. Then he hit the man across the head and shoulder leading him with cuts the quotations. It was fortunate indeed that they did not receive more serious injuries. According to the judge although this way did not strike any of the blows. He was convicted on the basis he assisted and encouraged the boys attack. Judge said you directed that boy to carry out the attack and supplied him with a weapon. Well the court heard this. Weight had multiple previous convictions including for carrying weapons and repeatedly punched a man in the face with a knuckle duster brass knuckle shaw for which he was jailed for four years and nine months back in 2019. The judge said this weight of Eagles Cliff close in Stockton posed a significant risk of serious harm to other people. You got that right judge. In both thistle weight and the boy were also ordered to serve an extra three years on extended license following the release from prison meaning parole. The how does a heroine and a crackhead have a kid riding around with him with a machete in a bag and afford a taxi but some hey yeah you could used to stay with us but we don't like your dirty ass and now you're gonna get a kid to chop us up. Thank God that blade was inside a bag we was doing. I'm sure it didn't stop much but it wasn't still on flesh. At least it was still on bag on flesh.

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Foreign.

[Woody Overton]

Matters. It's time for F Up Professionals. This is a twofer. The F' up Professional part is the

[Co-host or Guest]

ufc, the Ultimate Fighting Championship and we

[Woody Overton]

actually had a friend that followed in and everything else. But those guys are trained and girls are trained professionals.

[Co-host or Guest]

That's what they do for a living. Right in we're going to go out to New Mexico and let me tell you about this show. All right, take that out soon. So going to New Mexico and A former UFC fighter in New Mexico is facing charges after police say he punched his 17 year old daughter in the face and headbutted her. Your 17 year old daughter and you're

[Reporter or Commentator on UFC Fighter Case]

a professionally trained fighter.

[Co-host or Guest]

Why did he do it, you might ask?

[Reporter or Commentator on UFC Fighter Case]

He did it because they were in

[Co-host or Guest]

an argument over household chores. Yeah, don't, don't clean up, don't make your bed and I'm just gonna knock you the out.

[Reporter or Commentator on UFC Fighter Case]

Well, Tim means is now 42, was taken into custody after the April 21 incident and charged with a felony count of child abuse. He's booked into the Metropolitan Detention center on Wednesday and was released on Friday.

[Co-host or Guest]

According to court records.

[Reporter or Commentator on UFC Fighter Case]

Deputies with the Bernalio County Sheriff's Office responded to home on Camino de Villa and Tia Harris after a report of physical altercation and it's according to the complaint contained by the Albuquerque Journal. When they arrived, Means teenage daughter told police she'd been arguing with her father about chores when he headbutted her in the nose. If you've ever been headbutted, it hurts

[Co-host or Guest]

no matter where it hits. But you had some headbutts somebody in

[Reporter or Commentator on UFC Fighter Case]

the nose, it makes your eyes water, you can't see it is some painful and she also told police that Means continued to get in her face so

[Co-host or Guest]

she pushed him away.

[Reporter or Commentator on UFC Fighter Case]

The two ended up in the kitchen where Means grabbed the teen by her neck in a strangulating manner and held her against the counter. The teen said Means then grabbed a potato and threw it at her face. She said she began pushing and punching him in an attempt to get free as she was trying to gather her belongings to leave. She said that's when Means punched her on the right side of her face with a closed fist. Quotations said Let it be known that there were visible hand and red marks on the teen's neck indicating she was strangled. There was blood on on and in her nose where she was headbutted and several red marks indicated she was hit in the face and on her cheek. Now Means was also his fight name was known as the Dirty Bird and he's fought professionally since 2004 but lost five of his most recent fights and has not fought since October 2024 because nobody wanted to pay his to see him get his ass kicked. He was previously released by the UFC in 2013 after repeated failures to make weight, but returned the following year and continue competing in the welterweight division. In 2016 he was suspended after testing positive for a banned substance but he served a suspension but he was reinstated six months later after the result was attributed to attainance supplement well what a

[Co-host or Guest]

they wouldn't I worked in the correction system.

[Woody Overton]

I had a guy what's his name

[Co-host or Guest]

they call him the Black Rhino. He actually fought Mike Tyson when he got out of prison. Now he's back in prison doing life because he got out and got on the dope again and he took a Baton Rouge city cops gun stood over him, tried to kill him but the

[Reporter or Commentator on UFC Fighter Case]

gun misfired in the but when he was in he was like the inner

[Co-host or Guest]

prison boxing champion and the he actually got in a fist fight on the regular compound and they locked him up on the extended working cell block which is you don't get locked up for regular fist fighting. You have to fight with weapons. But they classified his hands as deadly weapons because he was the prison boxing champion and now he's gonna die in Angola as it should be.

[Woody Overton]

It's time for effed up professionals.

[Co-host or Guest]

You know fire and rescue guys I loved them and girls I loved them

[Woody Overton]

most summer just awesome people. But again you have in every profession

[Co-host or Guest]

and we're going to Florida and a Broward Share Fire Rescue lieutenant so he's been there a minute is behind bars and relieved of DD after he slammed a 65 year old man's head and gouges his eyes while on a rescue call to help him. Carlos Lewin, a 43 year old nearly 11 year veteran of the BSO Fire Rescue is facing two counts of battery on a person 65 years or older. You ask how might this might happen right? Well on January 31st Lieutenant Lewin and other rescue members rushed to a medical call near the intersection of North West First street and 31st Avenue to assist Mr. Alan McPhee who's 65 and this court, the sheriff's office they move McPhee from his wheelchair to a stretcher. Lewin, our lieutenant begins arguing with him

[Woody Overton]

if

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and he told two firefighters with him to put McPhee in the ambulance

[Woody Overton]

where there are no cameras.

[Co-host or Guest]

Okay this guy's in a wheelchair.

[Woody Overton]

He's calling for assistance if he's fucked up and he's and he's being an asshole.

[Co-host or Guest]

Whatever.

[Woody Overton]

You're still supposed to be the professional, right? But he tells two of his ambulance

[Co-host or Guest]

workers, put him in.

[Woody Overton]

Put him in ambulance where there's no cameras, because I'm pretty sure that's code

[Co-host or Guest]

from about to beat his ass. Now, while the pair of firefighters are trying to get his vital signs, Lewin slammed McPhee's head against the stretcher for about 30 seconds. See? Slam, slam, slam. Counted out. That's a long time. Lewin then used his fingers to press into McPhee's eyes and struck his head against the stretcher again. That's according to the deputies. The course. Thank God. After the medical call was over, the firefighters reported what happened, and they started investigation sometime after Lewin was relieved of duty and placed on admin leave with pay while the investigation was going on. But finally, on Thursday, Lewin was arrested at the BSO public safety building and suspended without pay quotations. The rest of our fire, Lieutenant, demonstrates our commitment to holding our own accountable for the unlawful actions. The public can rest assured that internal due process will be fair and any results in discipline will be appropriate with inconsistent with policy. And according to Broward Sheriff Gregory Tony, you know, all kinds, bro. All kinds. At what point do you think, I guess this lieutenant thought, I can tell

[Woody Overton]

these guys to put him in ambulance so I can beat his ass. Well, that didn't really work, or they

[Co-host or Guest]

moved fast enough for me. But while they're getting those vital signs, I'm going to smash his head for over 30 seconds.

[Woody Overton]

I don't know how many times that

[Co-host or Guest]

is, but it's a lot. And then I'm going to gouge his eyes out. And what world don't you think you're

[Woody Overton]

going to get told on if thank

[Co-host or Guest]

goodness those guys stepped up and. And told what happened. Right.

[Woody Overton]

And I'm sure the victim was complaining

[Co-host or Guest]

about it, too, but this is not the first time.

[Woody Overton]

You're a lieutenant.

[Co-host or Guest]

You've been doing this for 11 years.

[Woody Overton]

This is not the first time you lost your Jesus and did something like this, you know, but thankfully, they caught

[Co-host or Guest]

you this time, and I can go into prison. You could be a medic in the

[Woody Overton]

prison, save some other prisoners after they

[Co-host or Guest]

get stabbed or raped.

[Woody Overton]

It's just unbelievable.

[Co-host or Guest]

All right,

[Woody Overton]

it's time for family matters.

[Co-host or Guest]

I guess it's just the kind of day that this. Wait until you hear this. All right, y', all, we're going. Lufkin, Texas. And a Texas woman is behind bars after deputies say she dug up the grave of her infant daughter and removed the child's remains. Tamisha Drake is 33, was booked this week into the Angelina County Jail on a charge of abuse of a corpse. Angelina county deputies said they were called Thursday to the Davis Memorial Gardens after a report of a disturbed grave site. We've done some cases about people digging up graves, and I think this is like the shittiest thing in the world.

[Prosecutor or Legal Reporter]

But.

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According to deputies, the grave of a newborn infant had been opened in both the baby's body and the container in which the girl was buried were missing. During the investigations, deputies were led to Drake, who's the mother of the child. Investigators said Drake admitted to digging up the grave during an interview and told detectives where she left the container with the body, which was later found in the driveway of an unoccupied residence. The infant did not survive child survive childbirth in February. Now, Colonial Mortuary of Lufkin provided a proper burial for the child and assisted deputies during the investigation. Authorities said Drake potentially faces 180 days to two years in a state facility and a fine up to $10,000 because it's a felony charge. I,

[Woody Overton]

you know, the, the other cases

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I worked for, these sticks went around at night time and dug up grays just trying to find some gold teeth and stuff like that. The. They're just sticks. I would like think, I wouldn't like to think it, but I would hope

[Woody Overton]

that this woman's just not evil and

[Co-host or Guest]

that she lost her baby during childbirth. The, you know, the people she couldn't afford to bury them, the baby and then maybe postpartum, whatever. I don't know. The February, let's say February, March, April. A couple months later, she just lose her and goes out there. I'm not. What I'm saying is I hope, I hope it's a mental issue and, and not an evil issue because, like, I couldn't even begin to comprehend what you would do with your infant baby's remains. I don't get. Doesn't make any sense.

[Woody Overton]

But I'm Woody Overton, you host A

[Co-host or Guest]

True Crime time for this April 28th.

[Reporter or Commentator on UFC Fighter Case]

Please continue to call on your tips.

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Hashtag what happened to Madison. Hashtag what happened to Madison.

[Woody Overton]

Hashtag what happened to Madison.

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Y' all share Ms. Lynn's post. Share the difference.

[Woody Overton]

The anytime.

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Look, it's being shared all over and I appreciate that. But when, when it's shared, you don't even have to comment anything. Just go in there and do hashtag what happened to Madison. It pushes up in algorithms. It gets more shares.

[Woody Overton]

It gets more groups to share it

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and it's so so very important because it's not just Madison y'.

[Woody Overton]

All. It's going to end up being a

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lot in this case and boy rue the day for the that that did that did wrong things right because when it can be proven Louisiana guaranteed has the death penalty. But I don't have anything else for today. But I love and appreciate each every one of y'.

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Thank you for liking and listening, sharing and all that good podcast shit and I'll holl at you later. Peace.

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