True Crime Time For April 8, 2025 | Sex Trafficking Self-Defense, Dog Attacks, and Bizarre Crime Stories | True Crime & Victim Awareness

Summary

Real Life Real Crime Podcast Summary Episode: True Crime Time For April 8, 2025
Title: Sex Trafficking Self-Defense, Dog Attacks, and Bizarre Crime Stories
Host: Sydney and Laura Steele
Release Date: April 8, 2025

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Introduction to National Crime Victims Week

The episode begins with hosts Sydney and Laura Steele acknowledging National Crime Victims Week, emphasizing the profound impact of crime on individuals and communities. They express empathy for victims, stating, "Any crime is bad. Bad people suck" (05:01).

Case Study: Lana Butler and Self-Defense in Sex Trafficking

Overview: The hosts delve into a gripping case involving Lana Butler, a 21-year-old transgender woman from San Francisco, who was involved in a tragic incident that culminated in her being found guilty of manslaughter.

Details:

• Incident: Lana Butler met with Hamaza Wallopu, a 32-year-old man, for a sexual encounter in San Francisco's Presidio District (06:01). After performing the act, Butler disclosed that she was transgender, which infuriated Wallopu.
• Conflict and Defense: Wallopu demanded a "refund," leading Butler to claim she had to defend herself, resulting in Wallopu's death (07:56). Butler subsequently attempted to cover her actions by stealing and attempting to clean Wallopu's car, as well as scattering evidence.
• Legal Proceedings: The case moved swiftly to trial, where Butler's defense centered on self-defense. Despite her claims, she was found guilty of manslaughter and sentenced in June 2025 (09:14).

Notable Discussion: Sydney and Laura engage in a discussion about the complexities surrounding transgender identities and the legal system's handling of such cases. Sydney questions the definition and implications of being transgender, highlighting societal misunderstandings: "What does transgender mean?" (10:11).

Animal-Related Crimes: Dog Attacks and Circus Safety

1. Dementia-Related Dog Attack in Colorado City:

• Incident: A 59-year-old transgender woman with dementia was tragically mauled to death by dogs in Colorado City (12:06).
• Perpetrator: Her daughter, Jessica, who had multiple dogs (54 dogs and 7 birds) and unsanitary living conditions, was arrested and charged with criminal negligence and aggravated animal cruelty (12:31).
• Discussion: The hosts debate the responsibilities of pet ownership, especially concerning aggressive animals, and the legal repercussions of neglect (14:02).

2. White Tiger Attack in Tanta, Egypt:

• Incident: On April 1, a white tiger attacked a circus worker in Tanta, resulting in the amputation of the man's arm. The tiger was reportedly provoked after the man placed his arm inside the enclosure (15:01).
• Aftermath: The circus activities were suspended, and authorities decided to retrain the tiger despite its dangerous behavior (16:23).
• Discussion: Sydney critiques the decision to retrain the tiger, questioning the prioritization of animal welfare over human safety: "The tiger attacked him after the man put his arm inside the enclosure" (17:00).

3. Dog Attacks in Arizona:

• Incident: Kevin Ringoul, a 43-year-old man, was fatally attacked by five dogs owned by Martin Martinez in Tucson, Arizona. Martinez faced manslaughter charges following the death caused by the aggressive dogs (24:00).
• Details: The dogs had a history of aggression, with previous attacks on neighbors, leading to their seizure by Pima Animal Care (26:50).
• Discussion: The hosts discuss the severity of aggressive dog breeds and the responsibilities of owners, highlighting the dangers posed by such animals when not properly controlled (27:01).

4. Dog Attack in Birmingham, England:

• Incident: Nicholas Glass, a 33-year-old man from Birmingham, was attacked by multiple dogs, leading to his death. The dogs included two Excel Bullies, a breed banned in England and Wales unless specific exemptions are granted (28:10).
• Legal Proceedings: Authorities investigated the lack of permits for the aggressive dogs, underscoring the legal implications of owning banned breeds (32:36).
• Discussion: Sydney and Laura explore the legal frameworks surrounding dangerous animals and the tragic outcomes when these laws are ignored (33:29).

Bizarre Crime Stories: Armed Confrontation in Florida

Incident Details: In Melbourne, Florida, two teenagers (13 and 15 years old) were caught fishing in a neighbor's backyard pond. The homeowner, Donna Marie Elkins, 59, confronted them at gunpoint with a pellet gun after reporting a disturbance (39:12).

Outcome:

• Confrontation: Elkins ordered the boys to lay on the ground. Her husband intervened by disarming her, but the boys remained fearful and uncooperative even after police arrived (42:36).
• Legal Action: Elkins was arrested for detaining the minors without proper cause, sparking debates about property rights and appropriate responses to trespassing (43:11).

Discussion: Sydney and Laura debate the homeowner's actions, considering what constitutes reasonable self-defense versus overreaction. They reflect on personal experiences with aggressive dogs and the challenges of handling unexpected confrontations (44:48).

Worldwide Crime Segment

Case Study: Nicholas Glass in Birmingham, England

• Details: As previously discussed, Glass was attacked by multiple dog breeds, emphasizing the dangers of illegal and aggressive animal ownership (28:10).
• Coroner’s Report: The inquest determined trauma from dog bites as the cause of death, with no foul play involved. The breeds involved were scrutinized for their legality and aggression (31:02).

Closing Remarks and Call to Action

The episode concludes with hosts encouraging listeners to support their initiatives and engage in community advocacy for victims of crime. Sydney mentions upcoming live shows and fundraising events, reinforcing the podcast's commitment to solving cold cases and supporting victims.

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Notable Quotes:

• Sydney on National Crime Victims Week: "Any crime is bad. Bad people suck." (05:01)
• Sydney on Lana Butler's Defense: "I think she was just trying to defend herself in that moment or would have been me." (08:15)
• Discussion on Transgender Understanding: "What does transgender mean?" (10:11)
• Sydney on Tiger Attack Retraining: "The tiger attacked him after the man put his arm inside the enclosure." (17:00)
• Reflection on Dog Ownership Responsibilities: "I lost these three fingers between my two dogs." (27:12)

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Conclusion

This episode of Real Life Real Crime offers a compelling exploration of various true crime cases, highlighting themes of self-defense, animal aggression, and the legal intricacies surrounding these incidents. Through detailed discussions and firsthand accounts, hosts Sydney and Laura Steele provide listeners with deep insights into the complexities of crime and its profound effects on individuals and communities.

Transcript

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[Sydney]

Hello everybody. Welcome to this episode of True Crime. Time for Tuesday, April 8, 2025 Freedom Day Freedom Day Forever will be Freedom day for me. And that's the story I'll keep to myself. I think Sydney knows y'all this afternoon. If you're listening to this in the morning 5:00pm Walk Ons Restaurant Bistro Zachary, Louisiana voted the number one sports bar and restaurant in the world by ESPN. Formerly I will be guest bartending with Kevin, Kool Aid Garrett and LSU Games going to be on one. I think they're playing nickels or somebody Baseball will be on one and I'll be pouring you beers. And every tip that you leave goes to Louisiana, Oregon Procurement Agency. And Lori Steele, Ms. Laura still will be in the house also representing them. She can get y'all signed up to be a hero.

[Kevin Kool Aid Garrett]

It's great calls.

[Sydney]

You know, it's her jam. We love them. I will be there tonight five to nine. Pictures, whatever y'all want to do. Not pictures of beer. Pictures of us.

[Laura Steele]

Pictures.

[Sydney]

Did I say incorrectly?

[Laura Steele]

No, but I mean if.

[Sydney]

Watch this. Siri, how do you say pictures in French?

[Laura Steele]

In French, pictures is image. Like an image.

[Sydney]

You can take images if you want to or whatever y'all want to do. And, and thank you Walcorns for hosting us and that's awesome, y'all. Also Saturday, July 19th get your tickets. It's. And all the show notes. Get your tickets. Woody Overton live on stage. Southeastern Student Union Theater built for it. And do the live show. They have alcohol and food sales ahead of time. And then do the live show or actually during the show also. And never before heard raw and unscripted old cop story. And then VIP event afterwards. And home to sweet Hilton's. We got a discount room block. I know y'all heard this before, but if you get your tickets while they last. But now I'm done with all that.

[Laura Steele]

Well, it's National Crime Victims Week.

[Sydney]

National Crime Victims Week. And it sucks to be a victim of a crime.

[Laura Steele]

Yeah.

[Sydney]

Yeah. Especially. Well, any crime is bad.

[Laura Steele]

Any crime is bad.

[Sydney]

Crime is bad. Bad people suck.

[Laura Steele]

Makes you think. You always say, you know, there's warning signs on things because some idiot did something like, you know, whatever it is.

[Sydney]

Please don't put, please don't put your hand inside the tire cage with a, with a 20 ounce ribeye and feed the tire.

[Laura Steele]

Right.

[Sydney]

Because some did that.

[Laura Steele]

But then that's the way, that's the way our laws are because we have to tell people. Killing is bad. We have to tell people.

[Sydney]

Oh, I know.

[Laura Steele]

It's like to tell people.

[Kevin Kool Aid Garrett]

Speaking.

[Sydney]

When I worked in the prison system, you know, rape was still rape, but now they got an anti rape prevention act.

[Laura Steele]

Yeah.

[Sydney]

In the prison.

[Laura Steele]

Yeah.

[Sydney]

I mean rape is bad.

[Laura Steele]

Being a decent human, you have to have a law to tell you to like, don't bully.

[Sydney]

Hey, let me jump, let me jump. First story. Okay. This goes along yesterday. We're talking about sex trafficking in this story. I don't know. This person was a victim of sex trafficking. Lanaya Butler, who's 21 years old, but she was definitely a sex worker.

[Laura Steele]

Okay, okay.

[Sydney]

In. She is in a lot of trouble. California, San Francisco. And you know, she went. They call them dates or johns or whatever. And she went to do one, right. Lanaia Butler, 21, and she went to see a dude named Hamaza Wallopu, who was 32, and she performed a sexual act on him in San Francisco's Presidio District. And this way back in 2023, she. Whatever the sex act was. I don't know. And she did it. She performed it. And afterwards, Walla Poo Poo became angry because Lanaya tells Walla Poo Poo that she's transgender.

[Laura Steele]

Oh, heck.

[Sydney]

All right. And this all in court documents. I'm not making this up. So Butler, Lana Butler told police that Walapoopoo drove her 20 minutes away from where they met. And she felt like she was taken out of her element. That's. That's her words. Out of her element being so far from where she was picked up. Evidently, he picks her up on the street, said, say that I apologize to anyone I hurt, but my life was in danger. And I felt like I had to defend myself in that moment or would have been me, because you know what happened? The she performs sex act. They're leaving. She discloses that she's transgender, and Mother Poo Poo decides he wants a refund. I mean, and Butler was having none of the refund game, and she killed him.

[Laura Steele]

Oh, that's not where I thought this was going exactly.

[Sydney]

But she says it was a self defense, and that's why she was apologizing. She said I had to defend myself in that moment or would have been me. I don't think I should say sorry to nobody because I don't feel sorry for smoking him.

[Kevin Kool Aid Garrett]

Oh, right.

[Sydney]

And according to authorities, Butler, after she smoked him, she stole Walapoopoo's car, and then she tried to clean it and wiping away any fingerprints and DNA, and she spent the rest of the morning. Morning. Scattering the evidence, including the murder weapon.

[Laura Steele]

Wow.

[Sydney]

Right? So this genius, she has a conversation with her mother, and the conversation is recorded, and Butler said that Walapoopu deserved to be killed. And so basically, y'all, it all boils down to. She went to trial this week, and she was found guilty, and she's being sentenced in June. And she absolutely defended herself. She's found guilty of manslaughter.

[Laura Steele]

Yeah.

[Sydney]

And. But her defense was she killed him because he wanted a refund. She smoked him. Her words.

[Laura Steele]

But she was doing. Where was she? Was she too.

[Sydney]

San Francisco.

[Laura Steele]

Okay, so it was illegal what she was doing.

[Sydney]

Yeah.

[Laura Steele]

Okay.

[Sydney]

And at some point, evidently, I wonder.

[Laura Steele]

What made her confess that she was transgender.

[Sydney]

Confused about the whole transgender thing, because does it mean you were a male and you no longer have a penis? They can't tell. Or did she just give him a blow job and. And he touched it?

[Laura Steele]

That's why. That's.

[Sydney]

What could it be? No, I'm. I'm not. I'm not judges. I don't give a transgender or whatever. Whatever the they call it now that. That bothers me. Not at all. I just need to know because I just try to ignore it because it's. It just kind of smokes my head. Let's see. What does transgender mean?

[Laura Steele]

Transgender means denoting or relating to a person whose sense of personal identity and gender does not correspond with their birth sex.

[Sydney]

Okay, so if you're transgender, does that mean the you. You don't have the same organ you were born with?

[Laura Steele]

Here's what I found.

[Sydney]

Frequently asked questions about transgender come from around the world. Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. 1.4 million in the United States. And transgender people are people whose gender identity is different. Identity is different from the gender that at birth, trans is often used as shorts. Transgender. And so, no, it doesn't have to be that. I mean, you still have your package, right?

[Laura Steele]

Leslie's going through a change. He. She is actually a he.

[Sydney]

Yeah, I'm pretty sure she got out.

[Laura Steele]

Of that without the other.

[Sydney]

Pretty sure. Crackhead sex worker can't afford to have a penis remove.

[Laura Steele]

Oh, well.

[Sydney]

Oh, God.

[Laura Steele]

I'm not going to say that.

[Sydney]

I heard. I heard some bullshit about they were trying to do it in prison somewhere.

[Laura Steele]

Yeah.

[Sydney]

Then the public was paying for it. If I lived in it.

[Kevin Kool Aid Garrett]

Look, I don't do politics.

[Sydney]

Well, holy fuck, I'm going to do this one. If I lived in a state where a fucking rapist that was. Didn't identify as a man or whatever the fuck it's called. And I'm not hating on that part of it, but if you're a rapist or murderer and you don't see yourself as whatever, and you expect the state to pay to have your removed. That. Yeah, I would write.

[Laura Steele]

Yeah.

[Sydney]

So. All right, well, I guess that's enough about transgender. I had no idea we were going there today. That's a Woody thing, not a Cindy thing, but can you take us somewhere else?

[Laura Steele]

I'm going to take you to an update on the transgender lady with dementia.

[Sydney]

Oh, my God.

[Laura Steele]

That her daughter left to go run an errand.

[Sydney]

Oh.

[Laura Steele]

And the dogs ate her, and she's in Colorado City. And so, yeah, then they found that the. The daughter had multiple homes with Multiple dogs. And.

[Sydney]

Yeah, it was like 50 dogs or 20.

[Laura Steele]

54 dogs.

[Sydney]

Yeah, 54 dogs and. And some.

[Laura Steele]

Seven birds.

[Sydney]

Yeah, birds. I was gonna say chickens, I was thinking of, which is of the east side. There's witches. The one which shot the other one when they were having sex and they had chickens in the house and a pig.

[Laura Steele]

Basically the autopsies come back and they didn't know actually of. Although there was bite marks all over the woman, they didn't know if she had died. And then they, you know, like cats, like you always say, they eat, you know, whatever. But it turns out that she died by the dog attacks.

[Sydney]

Yeah. So they got.

[Laura Steele]

So the daughter is now arrested and being charged to go back to it. Not only the. You know, her mama had dementia. She was living with Amongst at least 20something dogs. Right. Because there was. I don't remember how many found at the other home. And very unsanitary conditions. And so the mom was in poor health. And you can imagine the reasons why. On top of the dementia, now they've charged the daughter Jessica with criminal negligence and 54 counts of aggravated animal cruelty as well. Yeah. So she hasn't. That we know of. Entered a plea. I mean, again, I'm going to say like my. I said last week, if you know you're guilty, why are you going to plead? And it's, you know, I just. Just saved the court some time and money.

[Sydney]

It's. They're not gonna do that.

[Laura Steele]

I know.

[Sydney]

Nobody thinks like you or not. No, defendants think like you.

[Laura Steele]

I know.

[Sydney]

All right, you know what? It. I'm officially declaring the rest of this show about animal. Hold on. It's time for Beast mode. So Sim is just giving updates on the lady with dementia that got mauled to death by the dogs. Right. Well, earlier I was making some kind of euphemism. Oh, you said about the. You know, we see a sign somewhere like, don't stand too close to edge or whatever. I always say that's because some stood too close to the edge and they fail. Right. And I'll use the thing about, you know, don't stick your arm in the tire cage and. Well, guess what? But in Tanta, Egypt, that's a city, in case you don't know.

[Laura Steele]

I figured that.

[Sydney]

No way. No way. I wasn't done. That's the city that's located between Cairo and Alexandria, Egypt.

[Laura Steele]

Cool.

[Sydney]

All right. On Tuesday, April 1, he had a white tiger and he's in his cage doing what white tigers do. Right. It's. It's circus. But and he's just hanging out. Here we go, hanging out. All right. And they got one of the workers there, brought him out to do a show from all the people, good people of Egypt. I'm sure we got a life or two there. We used to.

[Laura Steele]

We actually do. I see it in our.

[Sydney]

The analytics. Well, they bring the tiger out to do his show and they're doing the things when tiger runs and jumps through the hoop and tiger does this, maybe kicks ball around, whatever the. The. And then in the middle of the show, tigers get hungry. Beast mode. Yeah. And. And there's a video that since gone viral that shows the tiger mauling the man's arm as the audience screamed in horror at the circus in the city of Tanta, which I told you is located between Cairo and Alexandria.

[Laura Steele]

Who's the man?

[Sydney]

The incident occurred on Tuesday, April 1 and involved a white tiger. The circus worker later had his arm amputated above the elbow. At the hospital, the victim underwent a four hour surgery and the Tanta public prosecutor's office has since ordered the suspension of circus activity, stating that all local Tanta circus animals would be inspected. What they're going to find, right? Maybe it's. They didn't feed him last night. Yeah, you don't feed the elephant. That might grab some peanuts out of your hand in the crowd. But the accident site has been respected this quarter. Allah tv. It added that authorities had also reviewed the CCTV footage and interviewed the victim and eyewitnesses from the audience. Now, Anusu Kuta, who is the lion and tiger trainer, was there at the time. The tiger ripped the motherfucker's arm off and ate it and said that the tiger attacked him after the man put his arm inside the tiger's enclosure. This is according to the Arab Times. Kuta added that the tiger involved would be removed from performances and sent for retraining in Egypt's capital of Cairo.

[Laura Steele]

Retraining? They're going to keep him?

[Sydney]

Absolutely. Tigers are expensive.

[Laura Steele]

I don't care.

[Sydney]

So listen. The trainer also insisted that no audience members were harmed in an incident except images of never get out of the head of having a dude's arm ripped off by a tiger. And that all circus staff has been accounted for. Well, isn't that nice? Yeah, in case he had one in his belly.

[Kevin Kool Aid Garrett]

The yak lady was inside of his belly.

[Laura Steele]

Yeah, well, she wouldn't fit.

[Sydney]

Right? But she's a damn good Clark again. Damn good cook. Clark.

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[Sydney]

The ugliest sim is she's a damn good cook. The trainer also added that she remained by the injured man's side to monitor his condition in the hospital. And the circus performance was reported immediately. It was halted naturally immediately following the attack. So ANSA Kuta and the General Organization for Veterinary Services in Egypt, otherwise known as the Gobs, didn't make a statement about the incident. So I mean, you know, who knows? Did you ever see that a video the. Probably before. I know it's for Tick Tock and all that. They had, you know, the state fair, you could wrestle a bear and like that. And then they had like the dancing bears. It was performing acts and stuff. It was like some morning show in Oklahoma or something. And the circus had come to town and the trainer brings this big bear in the studio and the woman reporter is interviewing him and bear. Just bear when you're in a beast mode. Jumped on her and almost killed her.

[Laura Steele]

Jeez.

[Sydney]

And the later on they suspected that maybe she was on her monthly cycle or something and he smelled it and etc off. But you know, beasts are going to be beasts.

[Laura Steele]

Yeah.

[Sydney]

And I would only I. I really like tigers. Go tigers. Yeah.

[Laura Steele]

But that story reminded me because it was a white tiger that Siegfried and Roy had and that it attacked one of them. Yeah, there's also a white tiger.

[Sydney]

Yeah. But not throwing shade on white tigers because we don't know if white tigers attack anymore people than yellow tigers. But it happens, I guess.

[Laura Steele]

Yeah.

[Sydney]

And I got another one for you. Okay, this is. This is really kind of weird. Okay, I'm gonna. Let's just get all these stores out of the way. So let's go to Arizona.

[Laura Steele]

Okay.

[Sydney]

All right. And in Arizona, a guy named Kevin Ringoul. R E N G U U L On Sunday, March 30, he was attacked and you can guess it by dogs. Can you guess how many dogs?

[Laura Steele]

Seven.

[Sydney]

Five. And he was attacked on Sunday March 30, and he died three days later. So cops investigate it, find the owner of the dogs, and it's another Arizona man. And he's now facing manslaughter charges because his five dogs in his care attacked the victim. Who I told you. Yeah. Died because of the injuries. So just after 6am on Sunday, March 30, deputies responded to a 911 call on West Camino Tierra in Tucson and found a man lying in the road suffering from serious injuries. This according to the Pima County Sheriff's Office. The man who I told you, Kevin Ren Ghoul, 43 years old, was taken to the hospital where he died three days later. That's like getting murdered for three days. Think about that. Yeah, the. I mean like if you burn somebody to death and it takes or what happened to Jackie, it takes them a year to die in the hospital. That's like getting murdered every day even though hopefully you're in a hospital and they can give you some medicine for it. But like what's her name? And slaughtered a parent started death on the couch. We'll get Kevin Kool Aid Garrett to talk about that case. The that girl was murdered every day in my opinion. But this dude was murdered for three days and Woody's opinion. The the detectives start the investigation. They learned that the five dogs were in the care of Martin Martinez, who is 60 years old and had escaped from a nearby property intact Ringul and after the attack, Martinez was initially charged with felony endangerment and felony assault by vicious animal. Then of course, when Run Gold dies, they added the charge of manslaughter. Yeah, so. And he's locked up. He's got, you know, he's got a $275,000 bond. We get rapists and that don't get bonds that high. But I mean, I understand the guy died because this let his dogs out. But the Pima Animal Care took possession of the dogs who have a history of being aggressive. And here, this is why he's got a $275,000 bond. They had previously attacked another neighbor.

[Laura Steele]

That's what I don't get.

[Sydney]

So. Yeah, I mean, you know, your dog kills, you might not want to let your dog out, right?

[Laura Steele]

I wouldn't want to. I'm sorry. I just wouldn't want to keep a dog. I mean I say that, but my dog, when I was little. Yeah, but I was separating him.

[Sydney]

I lost these three fingers between my two dogs.

[Laura Steele]

And then I had another dog bite my face. But it wasn't my dog. And she kept that dog.

[Sydney]

Well, I don't know. I don't know. But the. I'm out of. Let's just give you one more and let's go. It's time for worldwide crime. Only because we're across the pond. Tommy, that one was for you. So a guy named Nicholas Glass, who's 33 years old, he lived in Birmingham, England until he didn't. And because somebody found him dead outside his home. All right, this was last year. He had sustained several injuries on his arms, feet and legs. You know, give you one guess why.

[Laura Steele]

Dog attack.

[Sydney]

That's exactly right. Caused by dog bites and claws. And this was according to the BBC, the standard in ITV news. So during an inquest. That's a fancy word, Tommy. And we call it investigation. During an inquest at the Birmingham Coroner's court on Thursday, April 3, a detective with the West Midlands police said officers were called to the Birmingham home on August 21, 2024, after. Gotta have good neighbors, right? We don't have them because we can't see them. But the. We still got good neighbors. Yeah, yeah. But on August 21, 2024, the neighbors saw the dogs running around the streets.

[Laura Steele]

Okay.

[Sydney]

All right. That's what they said they were running loose in. The officers checked the property and found glass and reasonably well hidden behind a propped up fence panel in the garden of the home. They also found blood on the floor and on the wall of one of the bedrooms, as well as near an open back window. See where this is going?

[Laura Steele]

I do.

[Sydney]

Police said the man had volunteered to feed his brother's dogs and was last seen just after 10pm local time on August 19, 2024, according to the BBC. They said that when he. It's likely that that's because the last time they saw him, he goes in and feed his brother's dogs. He never comes out until they saw him outside dead. But it says believe that he was then likely bitten by one or more of the dogs after he was last seen. He said, I can only. I wish I could do an accent. I can only hypothesize on what happened. According to system coroner Adam Hudson, it is entirely possible he may have been attacked upon his return to the house and that he managed to leave the property via window after he called for help, maybe so that he's getting attacked in the living room, runs into the bedroom, shuts the door. It's like, I gotta get the out. I'm about to bleed to death and gets out the window. That's what I miss. And anyway, so he. He crawls out the window, called for help, and he managed to hide behind the wooden panel and I was telling you about in the yard before died. Isn't it crazy as fuck? So ITV News says that Glass sustained a major injury to his left arm, which exposed bone. Wait, exposed bone with teeth marks on it?

[Laura Steele]

The bone had.

[Sydney]

The bone had teeth. Now, like I've seen exposed bone and yes, it really is white when the blood's not on it. And. But I had never seen teeth marks on a bone.

[Laura Steele]

I bet your fingers have teeth marks on the bone.

[Sydney]

Oh, I don't know. I have to cut them under and open and see. They said he also got bruises, grazes and puncture wounds in tears caused by canine teeth and claws in the autopsy shows that Glasses cause of death was trauma caused by dog bites. Corn report also said that no foul play was involved. Yeah. So it may not be a worldwide crime, but it's a crime. Got killed by a dog.

[Laura Steele]

Yeah. No, that's kind of crimy. They're murderers.

[Sydney]

Well, the detectives go in and do. Detectives. Do they seize? Well, but I'm sure they didn't do it themselves. But they had the four dog Cs as part of the investigation. And I am not dog shaming. I'm just telling you what the breeds are. It's two XL Bullies, which is a breed that's been banned in England and Wales, and a Straffordshire Bull Terrier and a bulldog. And the coroner says that they weren't able to determine which of the dogs caused the injuries to Glass. They said there was no certificate of exemption for the two XL Bully dogs that were seized by the police.

[Laura Steele]

Yeah. So they weren't given permission.

[Sydney]

He couldn't own.

[Laura Steele]

Right.

[Sydney]

The white tiger. Right. You own a tiger, you got a permit. Right. Evidently, in England, you own an Excel Bully, you got to have a permit. He didn't have it. So there's a crime in that. But people in England and Wales who want to own an Excel Bully dog require a certificate of exemption according to the country's laws. And the ban on the breed has been in place since February 1st of 2024. So just over a year said. In my opinion, it appears to be a terrible tragedy. Hudson said during the inquest, Glass was a. The victim was a caring brother and a son who simply offered to look after his brother's dogs and lost his life as a terrible consequence. Who do you blame in that one?

[Laura Steele]

Well, that's what I was thinking.

[Sydney]

You gotta blame it. You know what that's like the. That's really the dog's fault. I mean, and I'm sure they outlawed those dogs for a reason. Good, better, indifferent. But maybe you know what? Maybe I'm not victim shaming. Maybe glassed and was supposed to feed them for like five days in a row and he didn't feed them first. Four.

[Laura Steele]

I don't know. I can just speak from my experience. I'm lucky. Like, when I literally was going over to my. I was the maid of honor my friend's wedding, and I had my hands full of stuff that we were going over to get, like, ready for her wedding. And I leaned over and he. The dog lunged at me and, you know, growled and lunged and his right fang got my cheek. And he immediately hightailed it to his kennel and kindled himself up. He realized that he had done something wrong. But he could have eaten me. I mean, had he not and he chose to, he would have. Because I. At that point, once he got my cheek, I was incapacitated. I was scared to death, you know, going to.

[Sydney]

But everybody in the world wants to know about that story is. Did you still stand in the wedding?

[Laura Steele]

I did.

[Sydney]

Is it the same day of the wedding?

[Laura Steele]

No.

[Sydney]

I figured you're carrying shit. Maybe you're getting dressed up in ugly bridesmaids dresses.

[Laura Steele]

No. Right? No. My bridesmaids dress wasn't ugly. And we were getting.

[Sydney]

Never seen a bridesmaid's dress. It wasn't ugly. That one wasn't in it. Like the thing. The bride wants her dress. The bride wants her dress to be perfect and everybody else is to be ugly. So she didn't get topped. I'm probably in trouble for that, huh?

[Laura Steele]

You probably will because that.

[Sydney]

Just teasing you. I don't. I've never looked at a bridesmaid stress. I have seen some.

[Laura Steele]

You've taken a few ones off.

[Sydney]

You were never a bridesmaid for any. Since we've been together.

[Laura Steele]

No.

[Sydney]

All right.

[Laura Steele]

And so you took any of mine off.

[Sydney]

All right. Yeah. See, I. I'm not jumping into that bait trap. So. You know what women have you ever.

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[Sydney]

Like you're stuck in the middle of.

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[Sydney]

Time for Freedom Day. I'm gonna let you I'm ass request that you do one more story because I got to go bartend for lopa tonight. Me and Kevin Cooley Garrett. If you don't know who we are, we're the Ones with the purple and gold shirts on. Mine's gonna have hashtag justice for Haley on the back. Kevin's Kool Aid's will have Kool Aid on the back.

[Laura Steele]

I thought we had deemed this a dog, a Beast Mode episode.

[Sydney]

But you know what? Here you get to enjoy all of Woody Overton because I changed my mind, okay? Throwing my story.

[Laura Steele]

Well, I guess this kind of can go with Beast Mode. So there's these two boys in Florida.

[Sydney]

Two boys in Florida.

[Laura Steele]

And they are in Melbourne, Florida.

[Sydney]

Melbourne, Florida.

[Laura Steele]

And when I read this, I. I was like, how lucky am I?

[Sydney]

How lucky is she?

[Laura Steele]

Stop. So there's these two boys that go walking around the neighborhood. They decide to go fishing.

[Sydney]

And good for them.

[Laura Steele]

They go into this woman's backyard. She has a pond. Well, it reminded me of when I was little. I grew up in Baton Rouge, right off of Jefferson Highway. And there is a house still there to this day that has a pond. And it has. Inside the pond is an island, and there's a little bridge connected.

[Sydney]

A lot of those in the country. I know this in the city, but yeah.

[Laura Steele]

And they also had a trampoline. And where I lived was just a hop, skip, and a. Literally, I could climb a fence and get over and I could go hang out at their pond, go across their little thing, go jumping on their trampoline. And no one was ever home to get on to me. And I wasn't supposed to be there anyway, but whatever. So I always was scared someone was going to show up and like, you know, get out of here. What are you doing here? Call your mama. Whatever. Well, that's what happened to these boys. Except this woman comes out with a gun.

[Sydney]

They're fishing in her yard.

[Laura Steele]

Yes.

[Sydney]

She comes out.

[Laura Steele]

She comes out with a gun. And she holds them at gunpoint. She makes them get on the ground.

[Sydney]

Okay, that's gone a little too far. And they're armed with fishing poles.

[Laura Steele]

Do what?

[Sydney]

How old were they?

[Laura Steele]

They are.

[Sydney]

I mean, if they're 19, it's different.

[Laura Steele]

13 and 15 years old. And she's 59.

[Sydney]

15 year old. Questionable. I don't know. Kids nowadays.

[Laura Steele]

Well, yeah.

[Sydney]

So she got said, get on the ground. She puts them on the ground at gunpoint because they're fishing in her pond. She must really like her fish.

[Laura Steele]

And so authorities responded to a call on Friday at 9pm Maybe it's because it was at night, I don't know. Reporting a disturbance. This woman was calling in to report a disturbance on her property. Her name is Donna Marie Elkins. And so she said that there's a 13 year old. Well, she didn't know their ages. She said, there's two boys here fishing on my property. And she said she told the dispatcher, I petrified them. And she stopped them and they were laying on the ground. The woman is holding them, like I said, at gunpoint. But it's a pellet gun. Not that I mean any kind of gun. I mean, the boys don't know it's a pellet gun.

[Sydney]

Pelican kill you too?

[Laura Steele]

Well, so for five minutes she holds him at gunpoint. The husband comes outside and takes the gun away from her.

[Sydney]

Like calm the. Calm down, calm down.

[Laura Steele]

But the boys stay on the ground. They refuse to get like they're scared to death. So then once the police show up, then the boys were ordered, well, the boys were ordered not to move by her. So even once the gun was gone, they didn't. But once the police show up, they said that they feared for their lives.

[Sydney]

And I guess they did.

[Laura Steele]

Yeah, that. I mean that's basically that.

[Sydney]

You know what she just did? It's like me getting named the Cajun Queen. She just got nominated and from this point on, in that neighborhood in Melbourne, Florida, she will forever be known as a crazy well.

[Laura Steele]

And she was arrested and booked. They arrested her for.

[Sydney]

They arrested her. Well, you know what? Probably for detaining them and shit. I mean you can do it to a certain extent if you think you got to protect your property or whatever they're doing, whatever.

[Laura Steele]

But it was 9 o'clock at night and she was a little bit off. The, the boys were actually 30ft away from her property. So I guess since they weren't on her property, she had no right to.

[Sydney]

Do that since they didn't pose a fucking threat to her. I mean it's like a guy comes walking across her yard, our yard here. I run out there and put a shotgun in his head, make him get on the ground. So the cops get there. He's got no weapons, hadn't done anything. He's got a fucking fishing pole now. Look, look, we deal with it all the time. And I'm gonna say swim. Did some of his best illegal pond fishing at night the on different people's properties when he was a kid coming up. He knew where the big fish were and couldn't go there. So swim would go do that. Being, you know, landowners and managers of property now that have lakes and ponds and on it are kind of famous and people, everybody wants to go fish and trespassers and da, da Da, da. Well, that we have big signs that say trespassers will be met with armed response. Right. And I think that you could reasonably detain someone if they pose some kind of threat or if they were going to run or whatever. Like I catch trespassing, it's hunting season. They're gonna be armed. You know, I catch somebody fishing on the pond, I'm not gonna roll up and pump the shotgun and fire shot or say get on the ground. I'm so used to stay right there.

[Laura Steele]

Yeah.

[Sydney]

And I'm calling the cops and I let the cops come handle it. Right. If that. Now someone did that to swim. When they say stand right there, I'm calling the cops. Swim's gonna haul ass.

[Laura Steele]

Yes.

[Sydney]

And, and then maybe it escalates. I don't know. That's. That's a crazy story.

[Laura Steele]

Yeah.

[Sydney]

Melbourne, Florida.

[Laura Steele]

But they weren't even on her property. I mean even if they were the 13 and 15 year old, you'd say get off my property.

[Sydney]

Go. Let me ask you a question. This property here or Norwood? It doesn't matter. Briefly. You walk outside at 9 o'clock at night, there's a 15 year old and a 13 year old and they, they don't build them like when we came up. Yeah, they fit. They're. Look at our son, he's almost 15. He's fucking huge. And I think it's all the steroids they put in the chicken and now and the meat in the stores. I seriously, I do. I think they eat, they've been eating that for generations now and it makes them grow bigger. I'm be. I'm not even gonna say the rest of what I was gonna say. But you walk out, you're alone, or maybe I'm inside, watch TV or whatever and you see two strangers in your, in your yard. What are you gonna call?

[Laura Steele]

You.

[Sydney]

Okay, what if I wasn't available? What if you had no cell phone service and I wasn't available? What are you gonna do?

[Laura Steele]

I don't know. I honestly don't know. I mean I'm not gonna. I guess I'll go get a pelagon and make them sit on the ground. I mean this is our property. There's no question that this is our property.

[Sydney]

Yeah, well, it's dark. Maybe she, or maybe they ran 30ft over.

[Laura Steele]

Well, they hit the ground. So. I mean, I get your point. What am I going to do? That's a very valid question because what would I do?

[Sydney]

What would you do?

[Laura Steele]

I would call 91 1.

[Sydney]

I. I said you had no cell service.

[Laura Steele]

I would scream 91 1, you raise.

[Sydney]

The wind, run inside, lock the door, raise the window, scream yes, off.

[Laura Steele]

I wave at that smoke signals. That drone that hangs out beside behind our house. I'll go wave it down.

[Sydney]

Pretty sure the drone, I guess it has to have contact with a center. If you don't have cell service, then the drone doesn't have cell service.

[Laura Steele]

Well then there wouldn't be a drone there, so I don't know.

[Sydney]

All right, well what would you.

[Laura Steele]

Well, this is a good quote. What should I do?

[Sydney]

I would go back inside, lock the door and say. I would say I get the off my property. I'm armed. I'm going to get my gun, go inside and lock the door and if you have access, call 9-1-1. Okay. If you don't get a gun loaded in case they come try to get in, I mean, you know, they could have been rapists walking around with fishing poles as a guys. Yeah, we'll never know.

[Laura Steele]

Well, it hasn't happened.

[Sydney]

Only they know the 15 and 13 year old know their true intentions. Were they just trespassing for fish? All right, we're getting out of here. That's it.

[Kevin Kool Aid Garrett]

No more stories for y'all today.

[Sydney]

Catch you tonight bartending. Let's raise some money for Lopa. Love and appreciate each and every one of you. And I'm Woody Overton.

[Laura Steele]

I'm Cindy Overton.

[Sydney]

Holler at y'all later. Peace.

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