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Cindy Overton
I'm Cindy Overton.
Woody Overton
We are finally back live and in action, right?
Cindy Overton
That's right.
Woody Overton
I hope you all had a wonderful Easter and holiday week and all that good stuff. We did and even got some bingo at Big J's Side Porch and we won three of the games. WL won one and you won one and Mitch won one. Right? Our table won three of the games. So awesome people, awesome food and love them. And had lifers come in from way across the state. The picards for that night and just unbelievable good time. Y' all go see them at their big J's side porch in Clinton, Louisiana. So thank you, Patreon convicts. We love you all. This is the turn of the new season, season of rebirth. And. And everything is in you. And that includes real life, real crime. Got some changes we're still gonna have true crime time for. And we are definitely continuous continuing. Hashtag, what happened to Madison? There's a reason there's been a two week break. But I can tell you this. The case is working. The tips are working. Y' all calling your tips 313RLRC. TIP. You can remain anonymous. Thank you for everybody that's called in tips already. It's very, very important. These young women are missing. I fear that they've been murdered. And we're working on that as. As we speak. Hashtag just for Bradley. Hashtag just for AO and hashtag just for Ms. Barbara Blunt. Continue to call your tips 313rlrctip. You never know which one's going. The straw that breaks the camel's back. And hashtag just for Haley. The I haven't checked to see where we are yet on the money because I haven't checked it recently. But we're going to bring you something next week. Scott Roeder in the evidence room as to the status and prayers for Ms. Barbara.
Cindy Overton
Definitely.
Woody Overton
All right. This day, April 9th in 1972. I was two years old. You still wearing diapers when you're two?
Cindy Overton
You were.
Woody Overton
I'm sure they didn't have Pampers and shit back then. I bet my mom had to wash my dirty drawers, huh?
Cindy Overton
She did.
Woody Overton
All right, Well, a guy named Richard Floyd McCoy Jr. Was arrested for hijacking of United Airlines Flight 855. Now, after hearing the news of the hijacking, the friend of McCoy's alerted the police that McCoy had recently shared how to hijack a plane with him. Right. Just in general conversation. Once arrested, law enforcement discovered skydiving equipment, a typewriter with impressions matching the hijacking instructions, as well as 499, $970,000. And McCoy was found guilty and sentenced to 45 years.
Cindy Overton
Wow.
Woody Overton
He had what, you think he spent that $30 one back then? A new car, right. In 1972. Without further ado, let's get on some True crime time for this Thursday. What you got?
Cindy Overton
Well, I'm going to start us off in Denton.
Woody Overton
Denton, Texas?
Cindy Overton
Yes.
Woody Overton
That's where my mama lives, my baby sister lives, and my brother in law and all my nieces lived or. Or are still living.
Cindy Overton
Yes.
Woody Overton
And we will probably be there when this airs. No, it'll be. We'll be there same day.
Cindy Overton
All right, so in Denton County, a man is facing multiple felony charges after apparently removing human remains from cemeteries and then throwing the bones of these human remains over the fence at FBI's Dallas field office.
Woody Overton
Wait, he's throwing human remains over the fence to the FBI? That's like. I mean, it's like going into police headquarters and shooting it up. I would imagine it doesn't end well for him.
Cindy Overton
Yeah, it's almost like walking in. Yeah.
Woody Overton
Stupid. Yeah. We're FBI, the nation's leading law enforcement agency. We're not going to notice you're throwing bones and shit over the fence.
Cindy Overton
Isn't that crazy? So according to the updated arrest documents and recent reporting, Michael Chadwick Fry, who's 41 years old of Bartonville, Texas, was taken into custody after investigators linked him to multiple incidents involving stolen human remains.
Woody Overton
I don't get it. Still a lot of things, but still in human remains. It's crazy.
Cindy Overton
So authorities say the investigation began when Fry's mother contacted police after he asked for money to rent a U Haul, telling her that he had a body that needed to be moved.
Woody Overton
There you go.
Cindy Overton
And shortly after, law enforcement was alerted to videos of Fry that Fry posted online.
Woody Overton
I know you love her kids, but if they called and said, hey, mom, can I borrow some money because I need to move a body, that's not going to end well for her kids. Yeah, well, they better not call me. They can call you.
Cindy Overton
Joking.
Woody Overton
I'm joking.
Cindy Overton
One video shows him outside of FBI's Dallas office throwing a bucket over the fence into a secured parking area. And then that's when investigators confirmed that the bucket actually contained numerous human bones. Additional videos reviewed by police show Fry inside his residence. Remember, he posted these holding what appeared to be a human skull with hair and debris still attached. And in the footage, he referred to the remains as belonging to someone named Elizabeth Virginia Lyon. So now there's some newly released information.
Woody Overton
Hopefully they dug into whoever she was and found out she's missing.
Cindy Overton
So the remains are believed to be connected to a damaged mausoleum in Denton county and a coffin had been disturbed and then removed. Fry is also suspected of stealing an urn containing ashes from a cemetery in Oklahoma city and that's tied to a complete separate investigation. And then investigators also found evidence including GPS searches for cemeteries and a shovel at his residence. So he's been charged with two counts of abuse of a corpse and one count of tampering with evidence. And he's in custody on a $30,000 bond.
Woody Overton
Just. I'm sure the insanity defense is going to come in there somewhere, but I don't know at any point. How old was he?
Cindy Overton
41.
Woody Overton
You're 41 years old and you got a call to borrow some money from your mama to haul a body.
Cindy Overton
And the the information goes on to state that he has an extensive lengthy prior criminal history.
Woody Overton
Imagine that. Now you just add another notch in his belt.
Cindy Overton
And in 2018 he rammed his car into a Dallas television station.
Woody Overton
Yeah, obviously get it. Get more attention than that. Right? Because it's not like they don't have cameras. Well foreign. Y'. All, I don't know how these stories don't get more national media attention than this, but these are the kind of stories we'll bring you and we're going to Uganda. I mean if I'm, you know, I'm no great geographist I guess you would call them or whatever, but I'm pretty sure that's in Africa. The but a community in Uganda is in shock after four preschoolers were killed. The children attended Gaba Early Childhood Development Program in the Ugandan capital city of Kampala. And it's still unknown why the suspect, who's a guy in his late 30s, chose to target children but the police investigation shows that his plan was premeditated. Miles, I'm pretty sure I don't know. I don't have them on my map. I bet you they're going to kill this dude. Days before the attack he had been to the daycare under the guise of getting information to enroll a child. But instead of adding another little one to the group, he is accused of murders, murdering innocent little children in cold blood. So. And police in Gaba got a call about an individual attacking children at that early childhood development program on April 2nd of 2026. And it's according to the Uganda police force. They said responding officers managed to arrest the suspect at the scene and identified 39 year old Okello Christopher Onyam as the right and four young children who attended the daycare were confirmed to have died at the scene. Two year olds Ryan Nodeka and Atiku Gideon in case Algonaut and 3 year old Ignitus Sworney. So they got him in y' all they interrogated him, they're trying to. They said they're trying to establish his motive, background in any other relevant circumstances surrounding this heinous crime. And of course, you know, Uganda police force extends the steepest condolences to the families and, and all that. But how, how? What the.
Cindy Overton
I don't understand people.
Woody Overton
I mean, you know, we got from one spectrum, a dude who still embodies. He gets off on it. Get drawn attention to himself and lengthy criminal histories. Some dude in Uganda just had it on his mind, just woke up, he ate breakfast that morning. I'm probably sure they don't have a McDonald's. He didn't get an egg McMuffin, but he ate whatever the they eat in Uganda and just wanted to kill babies.
Cindy Overton
That's horrible.
Woody Overton
Yeah. So there you go. Let me ask them, make sure I'm right. What country is Uganda in? The answer I found is Uganda.
Cindy Overton
Oh, Uganda's in Uganda.
Woody Overton
What continent is Uganda on?
Cindy Overton
The answer I found is Africa. Very good, honey bunny.
Woody Overton
That was close. So, oh, does Uganda have the death penalty?
Cindy Overton
Do you want me to use chat
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Woody Overton
Chat GPT, GPT. So it says, yes, Uganda retains the death penalty in its legal. However, the last execution occurred in 2005, blah blah, blah, blah, blah. And it's up to the judge. So there you go. I don't know. If you don't get it for killing four babies premeditated, then just take it off the fucking books.
Cindy Overton
Yeah. Goodness gracious, what's he got? Well, we have to do a pre story to this. So we got the most precious video of our granddaughter.
Woody Overton
Yes.
Cindy Overton
On her first Easter egg hunt. Right, right.
Woody Overton
She's amazing.
Cindy Overton
I figured you would want to talk about that. Like tell what she was. You would. And so she goes and she's picking up an egg and she tells what color it is and she puts it in the basket. And she let yellow. Boo pink. Every single color she got correct. And she's just going in the basket so heavy it's pulling her on the ground. Right. Well, by the grace of God, she didn't do what this poor child did during her Easter egg hunt. So we're going to Long Beach, California, Family matters.
Woody Overton
All right.
Cindy Overton
And there was a disturbing discovery made at a Long beach park called DeForest park on Easter Sunday. And human remains were found during an Easter egg hunt. So according to Long beach, talk about
Woody Overton
finding the golden egg.
Cindy Overton
Exactly. Long Beach Police department Officers responded around 5pm on Easter Sunday after a family that was participating in the Easter egg Hunt discovered what appeared to be a skull partially exposed in the ground. And the authorities have since confirmed that the remains are, in fact, human. And investigators recovered a skeletonized human skull and mandible, which is the jawbone, from the scene. And now it's, you know, under forensic review. And the remains have been entered into the system as unidentified Doe because they don't know male or female at this point. Number 196. And again, it's early in the investigation, but there's speculation that suggests the remains could belong to a child. And investigators also stated that no additional remains were found in the immediate area. And it remains unclear how long that skull had been in the park. And I just cannot imagine, like, sweet. Yeah. Going to an Easter egg hunt and having something like that happen.
Woody Overton
Hopefully the kid doesn't realize what the deal is.
Cindy Overton
Right.
Woody Overton
They found it. Yeah. Obviously that person didn't bury themselves right themselves there.
Cindy Overton
Yeah.
Woody Overton
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Woody Overton
It's time for family matters. Let's talk one second about relationships and how far you get into them. At what point is it okay to tell your significant other if they're cooking, whether it's you or me, that you like something, you like it, but you may like it a little bit different?
Cindy Overton
Well, for us, that started about 18 years in.
Woody Overton
You are.
Cindy Overton
No, you were. No, you used to just like, not like beast, but like now you're like, I really like this.
Woody Overton
That's what I'm talking about.
Cindy Overton
For us, it took about 18 years
Woody Overton
for you to do that. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So I. I damn sure didn't do it in the beginning. I think most guys are. Women don't like if, you know, man cooks a woman something and then they're newlyweds, whatever. She's not gonna be like that. Tastes like a turd. Don't ever cook me that again.
Cindy Overton
Well, I don't mean this in a mean way. Cause you do critique mine. I cook much more often than you. I'm not saying that you don't cook.
Woody Overton
Right.
Cindy Overton
But whenever you do cook, I'm so. I'm so happy that you are cooking. And I have like the night off, so to speak, or nights. Because you cook so much that if it was whatever, I'm going to love it.
Woody Overton
Yeah.
Cindy Overton
And you cook well.
Woody Overton
I love everything you cook. And it's great. I'm just. Now I'm like, put. Maybe put a little more of this or a little more of that.
Cindy Overton
Yeah.
Woody Overton
So it's all good. What about that brisket? That 20 hours?
Cindy Overton
That's amazing.
Woody Overton
Easter, right?
Cindy Overton
Yeah.
Woody Overton
So. All right, so I agree with you on that. And then everybody's shit is a little bit different. But the. We're going to Southern California. And this one woman didn't take the criticism so well.
Cindy Overton
Yeah.
Woody Overton
And her boyfriend gave her a little criticism and she slashed his throat and stashed his corpse inside a makeshift tomb after he complained about her cooking.
Cindy Overton
Oh, yeah.
Woody Overton
Anyway, finally she was sentenced to 15 years in prison. But let me tell you about it. A San Bernardino jury in November found Trista Spicer, who's 43, guilty of second degree murder for the October 2014 slaying of her boyfriend Eric Mercado, who was 42. And this happened in their home. Now, Spicer testified during her trial that she struck Mercado in the head several times with a cast iron skillet after the father of two complained about the dinner she served him.
Cindy Overton
I wonder what she served him.
Woody Overton
I. Well, you know what? It couldn't have been that bad. All right? But Spice testified that she, after she hit him in the head twice, she then stabbed Mercado in the neck with a kitchen knife. Yep. I mean, she's the gift that keeps on giving. Right? She then, you know, because she doesn't want to do it by herself, she calls up her friend to help her wrap the corpse in a deflated air mattress, and the two of them hid the body beneath a concrete staircase in her backyard. Perfect, right?
Cindy Overton
Yeah.
Woody Overton
Game over. You got a good enough friend to do that? Everything's straight, right?
Cindy Overton
Yeah.
Woody Overton
Well, she's not quite done yet. She didn't use the same friend. She recruits a homeless friend to construct a brick wall over the space underneath staircase to entomb Mercado's body. So. Well, sooner or later, Micarta's family is going to come looking for him, and they did. So in this case is just like, hashtag, what happened to Madison, y'. All. Mercado's family reported him missing in 2014, but they didn't find him until eight years later, when Spicer told her boyfriend at the time, naturally, new boyfriend, he didn't know this guy.
Cindy Overton
Don't f with me.
Woody Overton
Caved in, stabbed in the neck is buried underneath that staircase you've been walking up and down on to come have some nuptials with me. But anyways, she. She tells him, because she can't keep her mouth shut, tells her boyfriend at the time she needed to remove his corpse because her family wanted to sell the house.
Cindy Overton
My gosh.
Woody Overton
Yes. Well, on August 23, 2022, the cops served a search warrant a splicer's house. And because of a tip, y' all calling your tips 313RLRC tip because of the tip from her then boyfriend. And that's when they found Mercado entombed, they said during the service of the search warrant, investigators observed what appeared to be a makeshift tomb on the property. And this is according to San Bernardino police. Investigators entered the makeshift tomb and located human remains. Was. Spicer said in court that Mercado beat her continuously. But of course, his family denies that. Mercado's sister, Maria Torres, addressed Spicer at a sentence on Friday. And calling her brother's killer evil. You took my brother's life and you shattered ours. And the Taurus said the mystery of her brother's disappearance for eight years devastated their family. And it does. Y', all, these are real people. Ms. Lynn Rollins Madison's been gone for two years, missing for two years. We need to bring her home. And they said as time went by, life just got harder and harder to live for me as well as my family. The thought of not knowing what happened, not knowing if he's alive or dead or suffering, waiting to get saved, that really broke me. And this is what Taurus told the local Sun Sentinel. So my family went eight years trying to get answers, and it seemed like everybody knew about it except his close family. And they did. Her friend and her homeless friend, right?
Cindy Overton
Yeah.
Woody Overton
Tor said that Mikado was a loving father and a person of integrity who taught her to chase her dreams. And she said, I will always feel thankful and blessed for the love I received from my brother. He taught me to go after anything in life with a fearless mindset, so. And then anyway, Spice was going to prison for 15 years in the California Department of Corrections. Me, personally, I don't think that's enough, especially you go to a trial. But at least she's getting some kind of justice for sure. I mean, there you have it. Don't ever give up people for sure.
Cindy Overton
That's horrible.
Woody Overton
It's time for family matters.
Cindy Overton
We're going to Long Island.
Woody Overton
Long Island. Don't ever have to go back.
Cindy Overton
In a place called Williston park that's located in Nassau county, there was a man that was arrested for murdering his 75 year old mother inside their home. Their home.
Woody Overton
Say it again. He did what?
Cindy Overton
He killed his mom inside their home.
Woody Overton
Nothing. Unless sins a little love like killing your own mother.
Cindy Overton
So. According to Nassau County Police Department, Officers responded on April 1st of this year after a victim called 911 reporting that her son had assaulted her during an argument. The son is John Strano. He's 37 years old, and apparently he's pushed his mother to the ground repeatedly, slammed her head into the floor, punched her, and struck her multiple times with a metal clamp.
Woody Overton
Jesus.
Cindy Overton
Investigators further go on to say that Strano choked his mother until she lost consciousness and then continued to strike her in the head more than three dozen times. During the assault. He made statements like, why are you not dying? Why are you still breathing? Despite the severity of the attack, the victim was able to call for help and she was transported to the hospital with obviously significant head and Facial injuries.
Woody Overton
Why are you still breathing?
Cindy Overton
Uh huh. Why aren't you? Yeah, why aren't you dying? And she was so. She had severe or significant head and facial injuries, but fortunately later reported in stable condition. Authorities located her winner of a son a short time later at a nearby elementary school baseball field and he was taken into custody. He's been charged with second degree attempted murder, two counts of second degree assault, criminal obstruction of breathing or blood circulation. I guess that's the choking, right? Obstruction of bleed of breathing or blood circulation.
Woody Overton
Yeah. Choking you.
Cindy Overton
And fourth degree criminal possession of a weapon. And he pleaded not guilty. And there's been no motive stated for the attack. But he's living with his mama and he's 41.
Woody Overton
I wonder if he ever borrowed money for her to move a body. To run a U haul. To move a body. Right. Yep. Craziness. I'm gonna give you another crazy one. It's time for F UP Professionals. And we cover every profession here from the CEOs to whomever. Right?
Cindy Overton
Right.
Woody Overton
We don't discriminate.
Cindy Overton
No.
Woody Overton
Just tell it how it is.
Cindy Overton
That's right.
Woody Overton
In what's my least favorite place to go on the face of this earth?
Cindy Overton
Like a place. Place like Walmart.
Woody Overton
Yeah.
Cindy Overton
We were naming a state.
Woody Overton
Or we're going to Conway, Arkansas. All right. In a Walmart employee in Arkansas was killed by a man who allegedly told authorities that he was. Three guesses. Well, you wouldn't get anyway. So nobody in the world would get this. And again, I don't know why this is not national news. So he told the cops that he was being stalked by a demon. All right. So about 10:58pm Conway officers were dispatched to report of a man stabbing a woman inside the store. You know, what do they do? They haul ass. They get there and when they get there they see 37 year old Zedrick Ross and he is still armed with a knife. So what do you do? Drop the weapon. Drop the weapon. Put your hands above. You have dropped the weapon. Right. Well they did that. Multiple commands to drop the weapon. And he was like, no, I'm not doing it. And he approached them, he came out with the knife. Right. So you have 21 foot rule. Most people don't know that the. Well, he's coming at him and guess what? I'm going home if I'm.
Cindy Overton
Yeah, you're not going to be taking. Yeah.
Woody Overton
So one of the officers fired but he missed. And I'm pretty sure he's going to get it for the rest his career about missing. But that's okay. We're not throwing a shade on him. You know, you get nervous. You never would know what's going to happen in the moment. But he might be going to a retrainer. But he missed. Another officer then used a taser and they shocked the out of him, got him down on the ground, less than lethal force and they were able to handcuffed him. Meanwhile, the victim, Jordane Drinkwater, who's 32, she died at the scene from her injuries.
Cindy Overton
Goodness.
Woody Overton
Right. So during the investigation, Ross told the cops that he had stolen a large knife from a Walgreens before the attack and a machete from Walmart from. For protection because he said a demon was stalking him. He said make it around. You going to Walgreens to get a knife.
Cindy Overton
I didn't know Walgreens had knives.
Woody Overton
I didn't either. But then, then you go into Walmart and you get a machete and then you see the demon. Yeah, but it wasn't a demon. But he described the demon as a light skinned black woman with brown eyes in a weave whom he had only seen at a distance. Now, y', all, this victim's picture, Ms. Drinkwater, she is white, pink cheeks and light brown hair. Not even close. So. But while at the Walmart, he said he grabbed the demon and began stabbing it in the neck and shoulder in an attempt to kill it, but didn't work. And after the stabbing, he looked down. Well, it worked, but not the way he wanted on the demon. He. He looked down and realized that the victim on the ground was not the demon. Oh my gosh. Yeah, so anyway, authorities said Ross was not employed by Walmart. So the up professional part, I don't know. I'm sure he was employed somewhere. But authorities said Ross was not employed by Walmart, was not known to drink water and had no known interaction with her before the attack. That's it.
Cindy Overton
That's just.
Woody Overton
I mean, you know what? I'm pretty sure the insanity defense is coming in hard and heavy on that one. And Arkansas does have a death penalty. But the if you think you're being pursued by demons, go to your local hospital. Call the cops.
Cindy Overton
That's what I was thinking.
Woody Overton
Call the cops, get some protection, call 91 1. Yeah. Don't take it matters in your hand.
Cindy Overton
No.
Woody Overton
So no, I don't know. You get it.
Cindy Overton
I saw a tick tock last night that said that they believed in aliens and aliens are actually demons. And.
Woody Overton
Yeah, that might be next on True Crime. Time for Thursday. Right, Right.
Cindy Overton
So you always tell me that prisons are full of dumb criminals.
Woody Overton
Absolutely.
Cindy Overton
In. In a world. Okay, so would you consider a two time Jeopardy. Champion as being intelligent?
Woody Overton
Well, here's the problem. You've heard me say this. They're street smarts and there's book smarts.
Cindy Overton
That's right.
Woody Overton
And the just because you have one doesn't mean you have another.
Cindy Overton
Right. Well, in Currituck county, there is a former game show contestant that's been charged with felony offenses involving hidden cameras. So authorities say that Philip Joseph, also known as Joey Decenna, who's 43 years old, of Riley, I think this is West Virginia, is a two time winner of Jeopardy. And he was arrested on December 1st of 2025, and he was arrested with two counts of felony secret peeping.
Woody Overton
Right.
Cindy Overton
According to court documents, investigators allege that desana installed hidden cameras inside a victim's bedroom and bathroom with obviously the intent to record. And of course, he did not have consent. Authorities say that the arrest warrant was issued on November 26, and then later DeSanta turned himself in. And then he was released from custody on December 3rd after posting his $5,000 bond and was ordered no contact with the victim. Now, decenna is a development engineer who obviously gained national recognition after winning two episodes of Jeopardy. In November of 2024, and he earned about $45,000. And then he went on to do a wild card tournament in early 2025. But as of right now, the case remains pending in court and there's been no additional charges added after the investigation, and there's been no major updates to, you know, release. But. And the victim identity has not been disclosed.
Woody Overton
See, I don't understand the. We do so many stories about people putting these hidden cameras to catch people peeing and stuff like that. And just what sets you off or that's sexually for you, arousing, you know, when you're young or whatever. What. What makes you flip that script?
Cindy Overton
I don't know.
Woody Overton
Yeah, Inquire minds want to know. Somebody pee on you and you liked it? Well, I don't know either. I don't know. It's time for Dum Dum in the court. All right, y', all, this one could be a family matters and probably should be, but we wouldn't put it under Dum Dum in the court or maybe even just like a great justice story because I love this and I'm sitting across from the biggest mama bear in the world. You heard her earlier not say that she would turn her kids in if they called the borrow money to haul a dead body and she probably wouldn't. She'd probably give him the money.
Cindy Overton
Don't say that.
Woody Overton
But you didn't say that. You wouldn't. Let me tell you about a mom in Baltimore and what she did.
Cindy Overton
Okay?
Woody Overton
Okay. And you raise your kids and you want them to do right and pray them up all day long and all that good stuff. And you know what? Sometimes kids are going to do stupid shit, right? Well, you know, it's one of your worst fears as parents is your child going and doing something stupid. Because, you know, they. They're talking about embarrassment, and that's not it. I just don't want kid to do something stupid. I wouldn't be embarrassed. I'd be madder in hell. Like, we raised you better than that. But most of all this. This is Cindy. You'd want to help sort things out if something happened, right? Like not. Or give them the money so they can haul a dead body. Well, the New York Post reported. Baltimore, Maryland. Mom who wants to make. Help make things right for the actions of her son. All right, so the dude named Moo Sin Sarak, who's a food truck vendor in Baltimore, in live streams. His daily business, the. And you know when you live stream, like we always say, everything's called on camera. If you live stream, you go catch. Right? Including dumb shit. So in this case, the. The camera called a sneaky thief on camera. Now, around 9pm on March 27, someone came up to the food truck and asked for cheesesteak. And Serac warned the customer that he was live streaming on social media. He put his hand into the tip jar when he thought Cirac wasn't looking. So he tells him, hey, you know what? I just wanted to let you know I'm live streaming on social media because it gets. A lot of people come down the truck, you know, and turns his back and this little thief reaches in, take tips out of the tip jar.
Cindy Overton
Yeah, I'm not protecting that.
Woody Overton
How about you protect the dead body
Cindy Overton
if it was an accident?
Woody Overton
Okay. All right. So when Swac turns around, the man had already. He ran like a little bitch. And he got a whopping $30 from the tip jar. And then Sarak says, did he steal or not? I couldn't see. I think he stole the money. Are you serious? And he's shaking his head in, but he could never guess what happened next. So he's still busy, you know, he's got to cook his and everything. But he did call the police and the officers arrived and. But, yeah, not much was taken. The officers did say they knew the man, which surprised s. Talking about the man on camera. He. He said he. He seemed nice. Why is he doing this? Well, after four days, a mysterious woman walked up to the food truck to talk to Sarag and said, a little while ago, a young man came to your stand and took money out of your tip jar. And I'm his mother, okay. Because he posts on social media. She then proceeded to ask Sorak how much money he took. And I said, around 30 bucks. And she put her hands in her pockets to give him the money. She said, no, I want to pay because my son wasn't raised like that. My son drinks, and when he drinks, he does stupid stuff. He took it from your tip jar. $30 goes back into your tip jar.
Cindy Overton
How old was this man?
Woody Overton
They never said they. But all your kids are grown except
Cindy Overton
for w. Every single would of mine would have been drug up there and made to be put every sin that they had to their name in that thing and.
Woody Overton
And made the work form and everything else.
Cindy Overton
Yes.
Woody Overton
So the. But kudos to the mom for getting it right. And what a dumb dumb that is. A dumb, dumb, dumb dumb who should have gone to court but didn't because mama bear took care of him. Mama, dad, hey, you know what, moms, if golly knock on wood, if your kids are drinking and they do stupid shit like that, I just. I keep going back to those riots and bat and rage, and the dude was out in the street blocking traffic and raising hell. And his mama said, I was sitting in my recliner and I seen him on the news. And she went up there and right in front of the news cameras, grabbed him by the ear and beat the shit out of him. The cops like, hey, you can't do this. That's my son. His ass shouldn't be out here.
Cindy Overton
This.
Woody Overton
I raised him better than this. He's out here acting a fool. Yes, my son. I'mma beat his ass when I want to.
Cindy Overton
Yes.
Woody Overton
Yeah. Well, anyway, put it on social media, share it and the. You know, just the way it is. You know, people forget about cameras and
Cindy Overton
they're everywhere or they just don't care.
Woody Overton
Yeah, that's true too. They like a lot of stores we cover. And soon as the shit breaks out, everybody whips out the cameras. Nobody's helping the victim.
Cindy Overton
Yeah, that's. That's the problem these days.
Woody Overton
So. I don't know. I don't think I got a story right today. Y' all been under the weather. I knew under the weather on the weather. So there. There you have that. And it is what it is. Kudos to the mom, at least for repaying the money. And f the shithead who's such a grown man has steal $30 from a working man.
Cindy Overton
Yeah. I mean, at least she does it, but she should have drug his ass up there and made him do it.
Woody Overton
Yeah.
Cindy Overton
We're going to go to New York City. This could be a family matters, but the family didn't do this. Just a family that's involved. The seven month old baby was killed by a stray bullet during a shooting that police believe was intended for her father. So this incident occurred on April 2, and it was near the intersection of Humboldt street and Moore Street.
Woody Overton
Okay.
Cindy Overton
In the Bushwick neighborhood. And according to authorities, a gunman was riding on a moped. Now, didn't we do a story of kids riding on mopeds in New York City recently? And they were like stealing all the time? Yeah. Well, somebody riding on the back of a moped opened fire as the child's parents were walking with their children in a stroller. And the infant, like I said, seven months old, Kaori Patterson Moore was struck by a bullet and later died from her injuries. And the same gunfire also grazed her two year old brother. And police believed that the intended target was the children's father, Jamari Patterson. Who said that? The who. Authorities say he's tied to a local gang.
Woody Overton
Imagine that.
Cindy Overton
The suspected gunman, who is amari Green, who's 21, was taken into custody after the moped crashed following the shooting. And he's been charged with murder, attempted murder, assault, and then other. Any other additional charges they could tackle onto it. Authorities also arrested an accomplice, Matthew Rodriguez, who's 18, and he was identified as the driver of the moped. It's like the old West. But he was taken into custody in Pennsylvania and charges for him are pending. And there was a vigil held for the. For the family.
Woody Overton
Yeah, it happened everything day. Somebody, you know, you tell people, you pull the trigger, that bullet's got to come down somewhere. And it happens all the time. These innocent bystanders. Whatever the beef was, I'm sure, you know, the dad didn't deserve to be shot either. But these babies getting killed by people just don't have any. Any sense.
Cindy Overton
Apparently the dad had been not such a good guy, but it doesn't matter.
Woody Overton
He doesn't be martyred.
Cindy Overton
He had. He had pulled himself away and was doing. Making better choices. And I guess the gang wasn't ready to let go. I don't know. That's Just what family members said.
Woody Overton
Whatever. I'm tired. I'm tired of these gangs and. And all this that. You know, another video came out this past week when we took off. But the. Hey, thank you all for loving the monster series again, by the way. But the. All these kids, they do it. Got the plan together and they showed up at a mall somewhere and just like, tearing up. But because, you know, the mall cop and the local cops can't arrest 60 of you at one time, right? You know, these gangs on these street where they take over the streets in these cars and motorcycles and they act a fool and they cops get up there and they can't do anything. It's just you and your partner. What are you gonna do? You got 400 people out here. So they flip the cop cars and burn them. That's just stupid. That's where the mamas need to come off the couch and beat that ass.
Cindy Overton
Right?
Woody Overton
Right. There you have it. And love being back in the studio with you. Right? And so I'm pretty sure I have a good idea what you're cooking tonight. And I'm pretty sure you won't club me twice with a skillet and slit my throat. And to me underneath the staircase. Or if you did, you would probably call the kids and get them to loan you the money for U haul to take me somewhere. I'm being in trouble, y'. All. You got anything else?
Cindy Overton
No.
Woody Overton
Well, there you go, y'. All. Thank you for liking and listening and sharing. Please continue to do so. Don't ever give up on these cases. And I know you get tired of me saying it, but I wish I could share everything that I need, but I can't. And we're never going to do anything to jeopardize these investigations. But calling your tips 313-RL-CTIP. We love and appreciate each and every one of y'. All. Hey, real quick on Big J's backports barbecue sauce and his country Cajun seasoning. Go to the Etsy store and use code rlrc, Big J and and get your discount. But it's all over the United States. Everybody's been posting pictures, what they've been cooking and everything. And it's fire. Y' all continue to do that, right? So but use the code rlrc, Big J. All right? And we need to share that everywhere because it's worth it. And I literally, I put it that I put the season on every meal and a dip, the barbecue sauce where appropriate. It's the best I ever had, but that's all I got. And I'm Woody Overton.
Cindy Overton
I'm Cindy Overton.
Woody Overton
I'll holler, y'. All. There's peace.
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Podcast Summary: Real Life Real Crime – "True Crime Time For April 9, 2026"
Host: Woody Overton
Co-host: Cindy Overton
Release Date: April 9, 2026
In this “True Crime Time For” episode, Woody and Cindy Overton dive into a slew of recent criminal cases that range from the bizarre and gruesome to the tragic and, at moments, darkly humorous. Their signature banter and personal touches—along with Woody’s law enforcement insight—guide listeners through headline-making and overlooked true crime events. Episode highlights include a grave-robbing case in Texas, the Easter egg skull discovery in California, deadly domestic disputes, and more oddities and heartbreak from across the globe.
Woody and Cindy keep the mood informal, often injecting wry humor and familial banter amidst heavy topics. Woody’s law enforcement experience adds realism and urgency to appeals for public involvement in unresolved cases. Their chemistry fosters a “front porch” conversational feel even as they discuss shocking and emotional crimes.
This episode delivers a robust collection of true crime cases illustrating both the unbelievable depravity and accidental absurdity found in real-life crime—from desecrated graves to horrifying family violence, and even to odd forms of redemption. Seasoned with Woody’s first-hand perspective, Cindy’s straight-talk, and a heartfelt appeal for justice, the episode is both sobering and engaging, perfect for both devoted fans and new listeners interested in true crime with character and conscience.
“Keep calling in those tips. Never give up. You just never know what’ll break a case.” – Woody Overton ([51:52])