Real Life Real Crime Podcast
"True Crime Time For August 20, 2025 | Utah Police Shooting, Nicole Alston Murder, and Virginia Home Invasion Tragedy"
Hosts: Woody Overton & Cindy Overton
Release Date: August 20, 2025
Episode Overview
In this episode of "True Crime Time For," Woody and Cindy Overton deliver a gripping survey of current and historical true crime cases, blending dark detail with banter and personal reflections. Themes of law enforcement danger, gruesome murder, identity theft, predatory behavior, tragic home invasion, neighborhood anomalies, unsolved killings, and the importance of legal advocacy for police intersect throughout the episode. Woody leverages his own investigative experience, while Cindy provides a mix of perspective, empathy, and directness.
Key Discussion Points & Insights
1. Utah Police Shooting – The Lethal Risk of Domestic Calls
Timestamp: 05:02–10:16
- Incident Recap: Two Utah police officers were killed and a third wounded during a domestic disturbance response. A male suspect emerged from a home and opened fire, killing the first officer and then the second officer who came to their aid. A county deputy and his K9 were also shot and injured.
- Community Impact: The case highlighted the perils of domestic calls for police—Woody dubbed them "the most dangerous calls," emphasizing the emotional volatility present ([05:15]).
- Witness Account: Local resident Randy Kilman described hearing what he first thought were fireworks before a bullet struck his car, stating, "I called a bullet through the driver's side door and it went out my windshield... I called my wife and told her to come outside and make sure I didn't have no holes in me. It's pretty freaky." ([08:10])
- Outcome: The suspect was apprehended after bystanders convinced him to drop his weapon. Identities withheld at time of recording; suspect charged with aggravated murder and potentially faces the death penalty.
2. The Nicole Alston Murder – A Cold Case Cracked by DNA
Timestamp: 10:18–15:29
- Discovery: In December 2007, burned, mutilated human remains found in a bag in Georgia went unidentified for almost 17 years.
- Breakthrough: In 2023, familial DNA identified the victim as Nicole Alston, who had moved from Manhattan to Georgia for a relationship with Angie Marie Thompson.
- Crime Uncovered: Investigators believe Thompson murdered Nicole to prevent her return to New York and took over her identity for eight years, fraudulently collecting welfare benefits.
- Arrest and Charges: Thompson was initially arrested for fraud and concealing a death, but charged with malice murder in 2025. Human trafficking and domestic violence charges were also expected.
- Investigators’ and Family Reflections:
- Detective Clay Bryant called Thompson a "true sociopath," noting the horror of the case. ([14:19])
- District Attorney Fannie Willis described it as "one of the most gruesome cases of her career."
- Nicole's mother, Sylvia Alston, mourned: "She didn’t deserve this. I wish I'd never let her come to Georgia." ([14:54])
- Analysis: Woody summed up: “That bitch isn’t running around using her shit anymore after she did the ultimate dirty deed here, right?” ([15:15])
3. The "Diaper Predator" of Texas – Recidivism & Law Enforcement Limits
Timestamp: 18:56–25:16
- Incident Recap: Woody and Cindy discuss the case of Wesley Worrell, a repeat sexual predator in Tyler, Texas, who approached young girls while wearing a diaper and pacifier, making disturbing requests.
- News audio recaps the arrest: “Man is accused of soliciting a minor tonight while wearing a diaper and a pacifier around his neck.” ([19:05])
- Alarming History: Worrell has a 26-year history of similar offenses, including indecent behavior at daycares and public places, with prior prison sentences and numerous warnings.
- Woody’s Frustration: “You got murderers, you got rapists, armed robbers, and everything else that we build prisons for. You also build prisons for [people] like this. Because he's never going to stop… Put that in prison and throw away the key.” ([22:57])
- Pattern of Escalation: Despite previous convictions and warnings, Worrell continued to reoffend.
- Impact on Community: The girls he scared were “visibly shaking and truly petrified.” ([21:07])
4. Home Invasion in Virginia – Random Tragedy
Timestamp: 25:14–29:15
- Incident Recap: Kevin Moses Walker, a seemingly polite Maryland man, traveled to Virginia, bought a large knife and sleeping bag, and then randomly invaded the rural home of Holly and Michael Hatcher.
- Holly Hatcher, retired teacher and mother to musician Spencer Hatcher, was murdered. Her husband Michael fought back, shot, and killed Walker in self-defense.
- Law Enforcement Reaction: Sheriff Brian Hutchinson called the event "random and highly unusual," saying, “in more than three decades of law enforcement, [he's] never encountered anything quite like it.” ([28:58])
- Family Statement: Michael Hatcher thanked the community: “We've cried, we've hurt, we've hugged and we found more love than we've ever known. Thank you.” ([28:58])
- Woody’s Take: “Day at the office, huh? 30 years, you’ve never seen anything like it.” ([29:03])
5. Odd Neighbors – The Train Horn ‘Menace’ in California
Timestamp: 31:19–36:26
- Profile: Gary Boyadza Hayon, in Van Nuys, California, repeatedly blasted ultra-loud train horns (audible for 3.5 miles) to the torment of his neighbors.
- Enforcement Difficulties: He’d turn the horns off before police arrived, prolonging the ordeal for months before the police intervened and seized 10 train horns.
- Defense & Mental Health: Hayon claimed his horn-blowing was a desperate cry for LAPD help, alleging a police-mafia conspiracy against him.
- After his arrest, "He vows to keep making noise: 'Yeah, I’m going to keep on blowing. I want justice served.'” ([34:51])
- Community’s Mixed Views: Some neighbors pitied him, calling him “a good guy that's doing bad things,” while others wished authorities would do more regarding his mental health.
6. Long-Cold PA Shooting Solved – Justice for Ty Curry
Timestamp: 36:29–38:41
- Incident Recap: In 2016, Ty Jerrell Curry, 20, was killed in Harrisburg, PA. Though he was not the intended target, the case remained cold for years.
- Resolution: Law enforcement eventually linked and convicted two men, Khalid Carter and Leroy Gonzalez.
- Courtroom Drama: Carter reacted with outrage and disruption upon his conviction.
- Cindy’s Take: “A lot of those cases get lost unfortunately in the shuffle… but nearly a decade after Ty’s killing, the case has reached its conclusion.” ([38:27])
7. Inside Policing – Cops Under Investigation and the “Bill of Rights”
Timestamp: 39:06–41:58
- Woody’s Insights: Drawing from personal experience with Louisiana State Police, Woody discusses how complaints (most unfounded) can disrupt officers’ lives, and the importance of timely investigation under the Police Officer Bill of Rights.
- “Nothing used to piss me off more than investigators taking the time on these cases. These people are under investigation and losing sleep… Go clear this case or find them guilty.” ([40:39])
8. Cop Fired Over OnlyFans Skit – Nashville’s Unlikely Scandal
Timestamp: 41:58–47:56
- Incident Recap: Ex-Nashville cop Sean Herman was caught on video in uniform groping an OnlyFans creator as part of a staged, consensual “traffic stop” scenario. Though faces weren’t shown, a visible department patch led to his identification.
- Legal Fallout: Herman pleaded no contest to misconduct, receiving probation with a potential expungement.
- Outcomes:
- Herman lost his job; his police certification is indefinitely suspended.
- The OnlyFans creator’s subscriptions “skyrocketed” following media coverage.
- Woody’s Commentary: “He up on that part [wearing the uniform] and I get that. Cops up every day. Not all cops are rocket scientists. But that doesn’t make them not be good cops.” ([46:53])
- Broader Point: Such claims and complaints—sometimes just dumb mistakes—in the age of digital documentation put officers in precarious positions.
9. Tribute to Attorney Thomas Davenport – Persistence Pays
Timestamp: 47:56–56:19
- Background: Woody praises his personal attorney, Thomas Davenport Jr., for tireless legal advocacy, notably overturning the wrongful firing of an LSU-Alexandria police officer named Maddox, after years of appeals and petitions.
- “If there’s a way to win, Tommy’s gonna find it.” ([56:01])
- “He is the ultimate bulldog when it comes to court cases.” ([47:57])
- Significance: Davenport’s efforts restored Maddox’s job and reputation, a victory for due process and police accused without fair cause.
Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments
- On the dangers of police work:
- “It’s always domestic disturbance. The most dangerous calls… because people’s emotions are so high.” – Woody Overton ([05:12])
- On criminal recidivism:
- “Put that [guy] in prison and throw away the key. Plenty of dudes in there will help him change his diaper before they butt him.” – Woody, on Wesley Worrell ([24:15])
- On law enforcement stress:
- “Bodies don’t stop hitting the ground. You can only commit so many resources and they go cold, right?” – Woody ([39:03])
- On the media & OnlyFans:
- “Why… are you getting charged? Right? You’re part of the skit.” – Woody ([45:38])
- “The uniform, yeah, yeah, yeah, he up on that part… Not all cops are rocket scientists.” – Woody Overton ([46:53])
- On legal advocacy:
- "If there’s a way to win, Tommy’s gonna find it." – Woody ([56:01])
Timestamps to Key Segments
- Utah police shooting: 05:02–10:16
- Nicole Alston murder: 10:18–15:29
- Texas “diaper” predator: 18:56–25:16
- Virginia home invasion: 25:14–29:15
- Van Nuys, CA train horns: 31:19–36:26
- Ty Curry’s murder solved: 36:29–38:41
- Police discipline process: 39:06–41:58
- OnlyFans cop scandal: 41:58–47:56
- Attorney Thomas Davenport segment: 47:56–56:19
Tone, Approach, and Dynamic
- Language/Tone: Woody’s blunt wit and raw edge dominate, balanced by Cindy’s direct compassion and practical sense (“I hope he gets the help he needs… Imagine being in his brain.” – Cindy, [36:09]).
- Perspective: Deeply rooted in real police work, the episode is peppered with war stories, insights into criminal pathology, and honest appraisals of justice system hiccups.
- Host Dynamics: Lively back-and-forth, with Woody riffing and Cindy grounding the discussion.
Summary
This wide-ranging episode provides gritty, direct, and sometimes darkly humorous looks at contemporary and old true crime cases—each exploring the complexities of law enforcement, criminal motive, victim suffering, and the criminal justice system itself. The hosts’ own experiences amplify coverage beyond headlines: listeners get not just facts, but context, emotion, and a sense of the long shadows crime and justice cast on individuals, families, and communities.
