True Crime Time For August 26, 2025 | Barbara Blount Disappearance, Inheritance Murders, and Wisconsin Road Rage Tragedy

Summary

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Real Life Real Crime

True Crime Time for August 26, 2025

Barbara Blount Disappearance, Inheritance Murders, and Wisconsin Road Rage Tragedy

Hosts: Woody Overton & Cindy Overton
Date: August 26, 2025

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Episode Overview

This episode of "True Crime Time For" is a characteristically intense, wide-ranging true crime episode, hosted by Woody and Cindy Overton. They provide updates and commentary on high-profile cold cases they've personally worked and discuss several recent and historical crime stories across the U.S., with Woody's signature blend of insider law enforcement perspective and candid, often colorful commentary. Central themes include the ongoing fight for justice in unresolved disappearances, the emotional toll on families, and a critical look at how law enforcement handles (or mishandles) cases.

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Key Segments & Discussion Highlights

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[02:13] – Barbara Blount & Cold Case Advocacy

• Update: The hosts announce the final episode in their five-part Barbara Blount series is coming this week, emphasizing the case is not forgotten.
• Woody mentions the real dangers faced by those seeking justice: "You get somebody shoots at your home because you're trying to get justice."
  (Woody Overton, 03:08)
• Insight: Ongoing frustration with apparent conspiracies and cover-ups in cold cases. Woody hints at police negligence and the emotional grind for families.

Memorable quote:
"Some people it might scare, but other people like me... it's a non-stop ongoing all day long... every week since we drop an episode, more comes in. And that's great – that's the whole purpose of it right, until we can bust the cases."
— Woody Overton, [04:28]

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[07:00] – Inheritance Family Murders (Tennessee)

• Cindy shares a case about brothers convicted of killing their father over a property inheritance dispute—an echo of the notorious Menendez brothers case.

• Woody expresses strong disdain for entitlement-motivated homicides:
  "You may have murdered your parents... you didn't earn that."
  — Woody Overton, [09:13]

• Discussion of at what point a missing person case should become a homicide investigation—using Bradley Striesner (missing six years) and Barbara Blount (missing 18 years) as examples.
  "When you exhaust all means to prove they're alive..."
  — Woody Overton, [11:03]

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[12:43] – Nikki Chang Sally McCain (California Missing Persons / Homicide)

• Recap: Nikki, 39-year-old mother of four, vanished May 2024; her husband Tyler McCain is now arrested for her murder after months of tireless investigation.

• Woody contrasts the thoroughness of the California investigation with the frustrating inactivity in Louisiana cases:
  "Here’s the difference between them and Vernon Parish Sheriff's Office – they actually fucking worked the case. Yeah. For longer than a day." — Woody Overton, [15:09]

• Tyler McCain faces special circumstance murder charges, possibly making him eligible for the death penalty.

Memorable moment:
Play of Tyler's public plea before his arrest, exposing the emotional manipulation sometimes involved:
"I apologize to everyone, especially my children, my wife's family... I'm just here to support... anything I can do, I want to do that."
— Tyler McCain (via Woody), [23:50]

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[27:27] – Rewards for Information: Barbara Blount & Bradley Striesner

• Proposal: Woody and Cindy float the idea of offering a reward for bringing the bodies of Barbara Blount or Bradley Striesner home, emphasizing closure for families over prosecution alone.
• They invite their audience ("Lifers") to discuss and help raise a reward fund, pledging to contribute personally and matching donations.

Notable exchange:
"Bringing the bodies home to me... is I think an easier task for somebody to tell on. Even if it doesn’t, it’s worth it to the families to... bury their loved ones."
— Woody Overton, [30:29]

• Open call for listeners to give feedback and pledges via social media.

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[35:04] – Ohio Cold Case Release: Michelle Hayes’ Murder

• Cindy details the 1985 murder of 17-year-old Michelle Hayes by Scott Grant and Steve Cohen.
• Grant, after serving 40 years, is released, causing anguish for the family.

Memorable quote:
"Can you imagine knowing that your sister's murderer is out?"
— Cindy Overton, [37:28]

• Sobering recidivism statistics discussed: upwards of 80% of released violent offenders are rearrested within a decade.

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[41:18] – Wisconsin Road Rage Double Homicide

• Woody details a tragic recent event: A minor fender-bender in Milwaukee turns fatal when a motorcyclist, Larry Jefferson, opens fire—killing a woman and her 2-year-old niece.

• Investigators used surveillance, social media, and automatic plate readers to track and arrest the perpetrator.

• Heartbreaking account of the 9-year-old survivor’s trauma: "Dee Dee asked the detective, would he ever be able to tell him why this person killed his mom..."
  — Woody Overton, [43:22-44:00]

• Emphasizes how advances in technology assist investigations, contrasting with failed local efforts in the South.

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[49:00] – Sexual Abuse Arrests in Beauregard Parish

• Recent arrests: Kenneth Reed Sr. (74) and Justin Stevens (31) charged with repeated first-degree rape of minors under 13.
• Woody shares insight on how such cases are among the most disturbing and severe—expresses frustration around why the death penalty isn’t more widely used for such crimes.

Powerful quote:
"Who in the world can think of like a three year old or two year old getting... raped over and over and over, passed around the room between these two idiots — and they don't deserve the death penalty?"
— Woody Overton, [57:56]

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Other Notable Moments

• [05:50] — Personal shoutout to Chase Tyler, lead singer of the intro music’s band, for performing at the Grand Ole Opry; underlining the show's grassroots connections.
• [34:01] — Woody clarifies that all reward money would come directly from their own pockets, not from show profits; underlines their commitment is personal, not business.

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Quotes to Remember

1. "Every week since we drop an episode, more comes in. And that's great – that's the whole purpose of it right, until we can bust the cases."
   — Woody Overton, [04:28]

2. "Here’s the difference between them and Vernon Parish Sheriff's Office – they actually fucking worked the case..."
   — Woody Overton, [15:09]

3. "Bringing the bodies home... is worth it to the families to be able to bury their loved ones."
   — Woody Overton, [30:29]

4. "If somebody doesn't get the death penalty or life in prison for cutting someone's legs off, what's the death penalty for?"
   — Classmate of Michelle Hayes, [38:50]

5. "Who in the world can think of like a three year old or two year old getting... raped over and over... and they don't deserve the death penalty?"
   — Woody Overton, [57:56]

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Timestamps of Key Segments

• [02:13] Barbara Blount case update and cold case philosophy
• [07:00] Inheritance murder in Tennessee
• [12:43] Nikki McCain’s disappearance, murder, and arrest
• [27:27] Advocacy for reward funds in cold cases
• [35:04] Parole of Michelle Hayes’ killer & recidivism
• [41:18] Wisconsin road rage murder & tech in investigations
• [49:00] Child rape arrests in Beauregard Parish

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Tone and Style Notes

• Woody maintains a hard-edged, sometimes irreverent but deeply caring tone, especially when critiquing failures of law enforcement and the justice system.
• Cindy provides empathetic, thoughtful commentary and often serves as a reality check, adding emotional depth to the stories.
• Episodes blend detailed recounting of case facts with raw, personal opinion and advocacy.

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Takeaways for Listeners

• The battle for justice, especially in cold cases, is long, draining, and deeply personal for both families and advocates.
• Law enforcement’s diligence (or lack thereof) can make or break the chances for closure and justice.
• True crime storytelling, when handled by advocates, serves not just for entertainment but as a platform for action—calling on listeners to help, reward, and support victims’ families.
• The real-life emotional consequences for victims’ families never go away, even decades later.
• Advances in digital technology are changing the landscape of criminal investigations.
• Horrific crimes like those against children stir debate on punishment and societal responsibility.

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End of summary.

Transcript

[Woody Everton]

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[Cindy Overton]

Cindy Overton.

[Woody Everton]

Bringing it to you. Bringing it to you. Bringing you the heat, the meat, all this skeet. I'm gonna retreat. My rhymes are not defeat it. Oh, gosh. All right.

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[Woody Everton]

Hashtag just for AO hashtag just for Haley is coming. Hashtag just for Ms. Barbara Blunt, y'. All. We will be dropping the the final episode of the five part series on Ms. Barbara Blunt this week. And Sheriff Jason Arts behind the scenes podcast, y'. All check it out. Gotta bring Miss Barbara home. And it's gonna happen eventually. At some point the worm's gonna turn. But hashtag just for Bradley and hashtag just for AO y' all. All lifers Patreon convicts got it Friday around 7pm Something like that. Commercial free early release. Everybody else got it at 1201am on Sunday. And the episode just went. I didn't expect it to go like where it went. Yeah, but it went. And it's important. You know, you get somebody shoots at your home because you're trying to get justice.

[Cindy Overton]

Yeah.

[Woody Everton]

You know what? They them. They're murderers. The. The. Yeah, right. They. The murderers are part of the conspiracy or they know who did it. And I mean, this doesn't scare people. Some people it might scare, but other people like me and. And Morgan, if y' all would have heard, I made her record all the the interactions with the deputies and and she was just going off on them and it's not the deputy's fault it really is and I understand her dislike for burning parish sheriff's office the the people that messed things up that that dude didn't do it but she yeah.

[Cindy Overton]

She'S a pistol There was still something that you know because obviously I listen as I edit there was still something that he did not do that he could have done or should have or you would have done differently not saying he's part of it I'm just saying still an example of negligence or not.

[Woody Everton]

Training or I have no complaints on what the guy did he did his job he showed up to 9911 call and made an incident report the but the I wish I could see I wish I could and one day when these cases wrapped up I'm gonna sit down and just do episodes about like last night was 121 o' clock and I'm looking at a bloody crime scene photo now I showed it to you yeah and and on the phone with people and stuff like that it's it's a non stop ongoing all day long never know what you're going to get next battle not a battle but you know I guess a battle and and every as it happens every week since we drop an episode more comes in and the which is great that's the whole purpose of it right and get enough until we can bust the cases but enough about that let's bring some.

[Cindy Overton]

True crime time I failed to mention last week congratulations to our intro music the band for our intro music the lead singer sang at the Grand Old Opry this last weekend on Thursday Chase.

[Woody Everton]

Taliban and Chase Tyler awesome dude I mean just genuinely one of the best dudes in the world and Lindsay his wife is just a sweetheart and and they you know support us when they didn't have to support us They've been followers of real life real crimes from the beginning Carly introduced to and she's deceased now died in a plane crash but the what a great guy and what a great honor and he deserves it.

[Cindy Overton]

Yeah he's so proud and and during.

[Woody Everton]

Happy for their during company we were on the news cuz we were at a place we weren't supposed to be when there was supposed to be no gatherings we had a kind of semi public illegal gathering where he played and and of course we made the news.

[Cindy Overton]

For that someone made a video and shared it with the news yeah a.

[Woody Everton]

Jealous it doesn't matter yeah let's get down in crime. That's. That. That doesn't have anything to do with it. Let's go.

[Cindy Overton]

I have a short story real, real quickly, but I feel like I don't.

[Woody Everton]

Think you've ever told a short story in your life.

[Cindy Overton]

So there's a. We're going to Tennessee, and there's two brothers who've been convicted of brutally murdering their father.

[Woody Everton]

Okay. Well, you may tell you about two other brothers that are not getting out of prison. I know brothers. Fuck them. And. And it was so great because that the parole board said, basically, you're a lion piece of shit. You act like you're a model prisoner, but you, you broke the rules X amount of times, especially with cell phones and stuff. And then you lie about it, but you say you want to do this. Them murderers, man.

[Cindy Overton]

Actions speak louder than words.

[Woody Everton]

Yeah.

[Cindy Overton]

According to court testimony, the two brothers murdered their father because the father intended to sell what they believe should have been their inherited property and use the proceeds to open a bar.

[Woody Everton]

Nice. It's kind of like the Menendez brothers. They basically murdered for inheritance.

[Cindy Overton]

Yeah. One of the sons, Joshua Hitchcock, testified during cross examination that he believed his father was planning this business venture and which would undermine what he expected to inherit. And so, although there was no specific details of how the plan unfolded, the fatal confrontation appears to have stemmed from an escalation of emotions tied to the two brothers inheritance and their father's conflicting goals. So the sales plan turned into a fatal family dispute, tragically ending with the sons killing their father. So that's. I mean, that.

[Woody Everton]

Well, it happens. All right? I mean, you know, want to murder people for money. I'm not saying it'd be easy to do. I would never do that. I'm just like. I think this is just you. You may have murder your parents. That's the. They work for you didn't earn that.

[Cindy Overton]

Exactly. Well, even if.

[Woody Everton]

And you got a sense of entitlements such to the fact that you're going to go murder him.

[Cindy Overton]

Right. And even if it's been generational, like the grandparents or the parent, like, you.

[Woody Everton]

Know, like whatever, they still did, it's not their money. That's right. I. I totally agree with that. So. All right, well, see, now we got Bradley Striesner, who's be missing six years on October 30th. We got Ms. Barbers blunt still never been found. Right. But she's like 18 years ago in with no bodies. So at what point do you think it turns into a homicide investigation?

[Cindy Overton]

I. I'm not educated in that because in my opinion, when this they. When they go missing and you know that they didn't run away. You know in your heart they didn't run away.

[Woody Everton]

Well your heart's one thing but remember that story you did about the dad in the kayak and they found the kayak upside down the lake and this in like Italy or somewhere or India with a mistress or something.

[Cindy Overton]

Yeah.

[Woody Everton]

And they. They were able to after a little bit investigation find out he actually left the country.

[Cindy Overton]

Yeah.

[Woody Everton]

The. The. I believe it comes to the point where you they have no financial activity, no cell phone activity. You check the country records exit exiting and other countries that surround this case. They walked on foot whatever the After a certain amount of time enough's enough. They call a spade a spade.

[Cindy Overton]

I was specifically talking like in a Barbara Blunt Bradley straight in her case like where there is no of that.

[Woody Everton]

Evidence like leading there's nothing that proves they're alive.

[Cindy Overton]

Right.

[Woody Everton]

When you. When you get exhaust all means prove they're alive. I believe and that's the reason we have courts so you can petition them for death even though and believe it or not, I don't think I've ever mentioned this Bradley Stracer still is not declared dead.

[Cindy Overton]

No. And and his sons are not getting any support.

[Woody Everton]

Yep. His son and Oliver but. So let's go to California foreign family matters. We told y' all about this story back in March. Dude named Tyler McCain. You remember this when I start to tell you about it. The his wife, Nikki Chang Sally McCain went missing and he got in front of the cameras. Please my wife home and da, da da all that. Right. So. And she was 39 years old and she vanished in May of 2024 after texting her family members that she was heading home. Well, this is more than 15. I said March more than 15 months after and she's a mother of four. Nikki, you seen a picture you might remember pretty lady showing it to YouTube. Y go follow us on YouTube. So more than 15 months after Nikki disappears, the cops have arrested her husband.

[Cindy Overton]

Good.

[Woody Everton]

I said we're talking about this timeline earlier. It plays a part of this. The they arrested Tyler McCain on charges of murder in accordance at a Shasta county sheriff's office out in cali. Nikki, who's 33, was last seen on May 17, 2024. And her family last heard from her shortly after midnight on May 18 when she texted that she was returning to returning a car to her mother in law's home after visiting a Reading hospital earlier that night. Now they said since the start of this investigation, detectives have worked tirelessly to locate Nikki and to determine the events leading to her disappearance. Detectives have served numerous search warrants, conducted numerous searches, interviewed family members, friends and acquaintances of Nikki to no avail in locating her. Based on the evidence gathered, information learned from interviews, and the fact that none of Nikki's family members have heard from Nikki since her disappearance, detectives determine she is a victim of homicide. Right. And according to the sheriff's office, Nikki was last seen at her house on in Anderson, California on May 18, where she lived with her husband Tyler. On May 24, 2024, detectives from the department's major crime unit took over the case and served a search warrant at the residence. And they seized several items of evidentiary value. On May 25, 2024, a citizen discovered Nikki's Chevy Avalanche abandoned off Highway 36 near Begum Gorge Bridge, which is close to the Shasta Tehama county line. Investigators do what they do. They worked it. They don't know. Right. It could have been a stranger danger, abduction, whatever. You can find some kind of evidence. So they process the vehicle from head to toe, if you will, or from bumper. Bumper. And recovered physical evidence consistent with foul play, although Nikki was not located.

[Cindy Overton]

Right.

[Woody Everton]

Right. So after months of searches, here's the difference between them and Vernon Parish Sheriff's office. They actually fucking worked the case. Yeah. For longer than a day. After months of searches, interviews, and multiple warrants, detectives reclassify the case as a homicide investigation. In this past March of 2025, that's the last time we talked about it. But on Wednesday, August 20th, 39 year old Tyler was arrested and booked in the Shasta County Jail where he is being held without bail. And he is charged with special circumstance murder under the California penal code, which prosecutors said that that that specific law applies because he killed Nikki to prevent her from testifying in a pending criminal case against him. So look, I look at my map. The best lifer fans in the world. It's. Even though it's in a moratorium or hiatus, California definitely has a death penalty and that's what that charge is for. So regular murders 187. This on the California penal code. This is 190.2. Which means they will kill you.

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[Cindy Overton]

Good.

[Woody Everton]

So at a press conference in March of 2025, which is months before his arrest, Tyler publicly pleaded for Nikki's safe return, telling reporters. We miss you. I don't really know what to say. I apologize to everyone, especially my children, my wife's family might as well. I'm just here to support. So anything I can do, I want to do that. So. Wait a minute. I apologize to everyone. You're a victim. You're a victim. So I believe. And I. I hate to do this for you for editing, but let's see what Mr. Tyler had to say then. The husband, Nikki. Any efforts to get my help, bring my wife home, you know, safely. We miss you. I don't really know what. I haven't been in the public eyes and I haven't done very well with it. I apologize to everyone, especially my children. My wife's family plan is as well. I'm just here in support, so. Yeah, well, you know what. But the support you should have given Mr. McCain is not murdering your Wife THE so and I mean this dude just looks guilty as when you're from a investigator standpoint. The let's scroll on to tell you about it. More than a year later, authorities say he is responsible for her murder. While the sheriff's office did not release details about the prior criminal case, the local krcr, the San Francisco Chronicle and KPTV shows that Tyler was charged with felony domestic violence in 12-20-23 after Nikki accused him of restraining and attacking her during an hours long assault. I mean yeah if you slap the out of and get it over with, walk away or whatever but you. You're restraining her and torturing her for hours. Right. He pled not guilty and the case was dismissed in July 2024. You know why? As Nikki disappeared and could not testify. There's no charge if there's no victim. Right. Authorities announced Tyler's arrest during a joint press conference with Shasta County DA's office and thank the state and federal partners including FBI, California Department of Justice, California Highway Patrol Investigative Services, persistent investigation and a $30,000 reward remains available for information leading to Nikki's low. All right y' all so here's the deal. The I want to talk about this because of the cases that we have missing and sin I have not mentioned this to you but I want to float the idea of Ms. Barbara Blunt and Bradley. They don't have to be tied together. The I would say to the rest and prosecution of either case but I think bringing the body home bodies home would do more then we need to offer a reward.

[Cindy Overton]

I was literally thinking that and I was actually going to pose that to you off air after. Yeah.

[Woody Everton]

Yeah. So lifers out there. The and I've been thinking about this. You know I've been thinking about this for years especially Barbara Blunt's case. The I think it'll be still be a little bit tougher on Ms. Barbara's case because I know what I know in those people that the people that murdered her are they don't have any reason to flip and in Bradley's case there's. There's no honor among these.

[Cindy Overton]

Yeah.

[Woody Everton]

The. The. There's no doubt in my mind that I know what happened and thus far led to Austin o' Banion being murdered also. They can call it whatever they want to. I know what it is and so I'm thinking that I don't know a number yet.

[Cindy Overton]

I was going to ask you what number is going to make someone flip.

[Woody Everton]

I In that world and Bradley's world a bunch of meth Heads. The wouldn't say much, but I don't want to make it a cheap number. And.

[Cindy Overton]

But the. I'm just asking. I know I'm interrupting you. I'm sorry, but the powers that be might say, well, I'll give you this. I mean, they might be in a.

[Woody Everton]

Bidding war of like anything's possible, frogs, ass glass and can break every time he hop. Right. But I'm coming from a good standpoint of offering a reward and we're going to make the reward for both cases. Lifers, y' all let us know on social media this week. Let's talk about this in. Of course, you and I would be putting up. I mean, if somebody else wants to donate to the reward, it would be. It would be contingent upon. What's wrong with you?

[Cindy Overton]

Nothing.

[Woody Everton]

It would be contingent upon bringing the bodies home. Because I believe that. I believe that in both of these cases, bringing the bodies home gets you arrest and con, if not convictions. So I don't know. Let's think of lifers. This is Tuesday. Right. So let's talk about it through until next Monday.

[Cindy Overton]

Okay.

[Woody Everton]

And I want the lifers input. And we can. We. We certainly will put up the lion's share. And then if anybody wants to donate, verbally donate an amount based upon the re. The finding of their bodies, which is most people like accordingly. Coco's case, I was gonna say leading information, leading to the rest and conviction of. That's a lot.

[Cindy Overton]

Yeah.

[Woody Everton]

And. And that takes years. Bring the bodies home to me is, Is. Is I think an easier task for somebody to tell on. Right. Because, you know, you don't have to get in trouble if you say, oh, Joe Blow told me it was in the oxidation pond. Look, I have so many tips from where Bradley's body's at. I could go over there and beat the bushes for 16 years and not find them. But that circle of people. No. And I think bringing the bodies home will ultimately lead to the rest. Even if it doesn't, it's worth it to the families to. To be able to bury their loved ones.

[Cindy Overton]

Yeah.

[Woody Everton]

So lifers, y', all send them start some social media posts on Tuesday about this. And we will collectively, y', all, let's kick the can and figure out what we're going to do. And if. If somebody wants to verbally donate. Right. With a promise then. And we will. We will put up. We'll come up with what we can afford to put up. And I'd be happy to pay it. Well, of course, the. The happy to pay it to To. In either or both cases to get the bodies home.

[Cindy Overton]

Yeah.

[Woody Everton]

And then we'll cook their asses.

[Cindy Overton]

Yeah.

[Woody Everton]

So the. But we're gonna do according to Coco's case. But I didn't have to and. And got fortunate and solved in. In six weeks. The. All right. So then anyway that I'll get off my high horse on that. That it's your turn. But y', all, let's do it on social media. If anyone wants to remain anonymous and make a verbal pledge to an amount. Doesn't matter how much it is. The. We'll put that in a pool. A verbal pool. And then either we'll match it or we'll just come up with our amount and nobody has to put up anything.

[Cindy Overton]

Yeah.

[Woody Everton]

Right. And if they want to be acknowledged for putting up verbally saying, hey, I don't care if it's a business, whatever. Hey, we'll put up, you know, $5,000 if this the body found.

[Cindy Overton]

Yeah.

[Woody Everton]

And it's conclusive that it's DNA, that it's either Bradley or Ms. Barber.

[Cindy Overton]

Yeah.

[Woody Everton]

I think it's a good idea, right?

[Cindy Overton]

It's a great idea.

[Woody Everton]

All right, your turn.

[Cindy Overton]

Hopefully that'll turn the worm.

[Woody Everton]

I mean, it's there. It's there. So many places to search that. And not enough time in a day.

[Cindy Overton]

Yeah, man.

[Woody Everton]

If you. If you gotta have a go fund me to go and go do that kind of. I mean, obviously when I go to burn in Paris, we have a lot of expenses. And. And I mean it's eight hours round trip and everything else. People don't take all that into account. Right. Much less time there. And then time there is way, way from time here in the studio. So you're losing money on that. It's just. It's just a. It's. It would be. We'd have to have. I don't know how much for me to go over there and stay till we got to conclude it. It just can't be done.

[Cindy Overton]

Well, it can't be done. And people don't believe that you're doing this for free anyway. You know, like people already. So for us to turn around and give a. A reward seems unthinkable to some.

[Woody Everton]

You know what that, that, that shit would be out of our pocket, not real life be out of Woody and Cindy's pocket.

[Cindy Overton]

Yeah.

[Woody Everton]

And the. The. The deal on being free, people are gonna think what they think we would have real life, real crime. Like we're doing the Daily show now. Even though we're not talking about crime news, we're talking about this. The. The. We have the same amount of sponsors, commercials and. And downloads and stuff that we get paid for that. This I took on Bradley's case, which more than Austin's case. We're not charging anybody anything.

[Cindy Overton]

No.

[Woody Everton]

And it guys, I spent a hell of a lot more time basically every waking effing moment on these cases and, and if. If you paid me a penny an hour, we. I could retire.

[Cindy Overton]

Yeah.

[Woody Everton]

Yeah. I'm serious. How much time I think about it, it's stupid, you know. All right. But go ahead. Let's give him some news.

[Cindy Overton]

Well, the case that you were just telling prior to our conversation about the husband that's finally been arrested reminded me of this case that I was going to talk about today. For this case we're going to. Or for this story we're going to Ohio. And there's a 17 year old Michelle Hayes from Mentor on the lake, Ohio and she was brutally murdered in 1985. And her killer was Scott Grant.

[Woody Everton]

Really be an adjective or an adverb?

[Cindy Overton]

Adjective.

[Woody Everton]

Yeah. I think I've always thought. And not throwing a shame on what you're saying. I know you're reading but I've always thought when people say they were brutally murdered, pretty sure murder means just bad regardless.

[Cindy Overton]

Yeah.

[Woody Everton]

I don't even think brutally is a big enough adjective.

[Cindy Overton]

Yeah.

[Woody Everton]

I don't think they have a word. It should just be understood. And when someone says murdered, it's just the worst shit you can imagine.

[Cindy Overton]

Yeah.

[Woody Everton]

Sorry, guy.

[Cindy Overton]

Well, her killer, Scott Grant and another man, Steve Cohen, abducted her and then cut off her legs.

[Woody Everton]

Nice.

[Cindy Overton]

And then they dumped her in a nearby berry patch.

[Woody Everton]

Nice.

[Cindy Overton]

And prosecutors ruled the crime was sexually motivated and charged Grant with involuntary.

[Woody Everton]

Where was this?

[Cindy Overton]

Ohio.

[Woody Everton]

Looking at my calendar on my chart. How the hell. Oh, this. And moratorium. But they do have the death penalty. Okay.

[Cindy Overton]

Grant received the maximum penalty. Now remember, this is 1985. And he served a full 40 year prison sentence while Cohen has passed away while in prison. So in August of just in the past few days, Grant completed his sentence and he's been released from prison. That's scary. Now Grant is free and he must live under community supervision.

[Woody Everton]

Motherfucker. Who did his. Her daughter made it to prison and made it out, he'd be on murder by you.

[Cindy Overton]

Exactly. And he's required to register as a sex offender for the next decade. And the family of Michelle, particularly her sister dawn continues to like. Can you imagine knowing that your sister's murderer is out?

[Woody Everton]

They raped her and cut her legs off.

[Cindy Overton]

Yeah. And dumped her body in a berry patch. So dawn remembers Michelle's great spirit, infectious laugh, and a reminder of the life that was stolen. And she questions the fairness of the justice system, noting that while her sister remains frozen in time at 17, Grant gets to resume time like life outside of prison, even though he has restrictions.

[Woody Everton]

My goodness, fuck him, she says.

[Cindy Overton]

I don't see the justice in it at all. And she's long opposed Grant's parole and organized community resistance each time he was up for release. Classmates of Michelle, of course, echoed Dawn's sentiment. And it has to be classmates. She was 17 years old. She was. You know, one classmate remarked, if somebody doesn't get the death penalty or. Or life in prison for cutting someone's legs off, what's the death penalty for?

[Woody Everton]

I know. I mean, after. I mean, he's got registered sex offender, and they did sexual shit to her.

[Cindy Overton]

Exactly.

[Woody Everton]

Yeah.

[Cindy Overton]

So dawn has a clear message for Grant. She said, I'm here to remind him that Michelle was loved and will not go away. Her words reflect the family's enduring grief and determination to keep Michelle's memory alive. So I decided that I was going to do a quick look at a prisoner who gets released, how often they reoffend. And so in 2012, among the prisoners released in the year 2012, 70% of them were rearrested within five years.

[Woody Everton]

Yep. And it means somebody else is a victim.

[Cindy Overton]

Exactly. And in 2005, 68% were rearrested within three years, 79 within six years, and 83 within nine years. I mean, it's almost a one. Almost 100% chance this person's going to reoffend.

[Woody Everton]

Yeah.

[Cindy Overton]

And geez Louise. This study says in over 73,000 prisoners across 24 states between the years of 2000, 2008, and 2018, 66% were arrested within three years and 82 within 10. And it goes on. But that's the point. The points made.

[Woody Everton]

Yeah.

[Cindy Overton]

You know, there's no reason for me to continue that.

[Woody Everton]

But they'll be naming a new law after. After. Yeah, after he gets out and rapes and kills again.

[Cindy Overton]

He got away with it. Yeah, he's gonna.

[Woody Everton]

He spent some time. I mean, he didn't get away with it. He got out of prison. He didn't get away with it. He should have got the death penalty. Right.

[Cindy Overton]

Yeah.

[Woody Everton]

It's time for family matters. And y' all know Leah Marie does 99.9 of the research for these stories. And it had. The story had a note said, do not give to Cindy.

[Cindy Overton]

Oh, there's one in there that says Cindy. She sent it to me too.

[Woody Everton]

This one says do not give to Cindy. And we're going to one of probably my second favorite state.

[Cindy Overton]

In the country after Wisconsin. Second favorite.

[Woody Everton]

Wisconsin would be my second favorite. Yeah, Louisiana's my home.

[Cindy Overton]

Yeah, I know. Yeah.

[Woody Everton]

Okay, so we're going to Wisconsin. All right. Great people. That's just such a great place. I mean as far as how Woody Everton likes to live, you know, beer and meat and honey, cheese and. I like cheese. I know you do. And the, just the people, the personalities, it's just, and it's such diverse landscape and everything else. Just, just love Wisconsin. But Wisconsin mama was driving and down the road and taking a little family trip. She had a nine year old son as well as her two year old niece in the vehicle with her. Okay, I'm not going to just kind of, kind of paraphrase the story because it really is fucked up. The. And they got in a little fender bender.

[Cindy Overton]

Okay.

[Woody Everton]

And they got a little fender bender with a motorcyclist. Okay. Well the motorcycle's name was Larry Jefferson and he's 29 years old and this is on the north side of Milwaukee. The getting an offender bender. Larry Jefferson was riding the motorcycle and he evidently has anger issues because it's a true case of road rage. And he started shooting, all right? And during the shooting he murdered the niece and the mama. Okay. So the cops get there, of course they call it, you know, an unfathomable act of violence, senseless and all that good shit. Right? So. So the, the victim, Ms. Williams son lived and he was inside the vehicle they identified because it's juvenile as dd. They said they. When they got there, the cops said the boy was crying still inside the vehicle is crying. And, and cops say the boy couldn't understand what had happened to his mom. And while she was targeted while they were driving part I told you about and this was on the street in front of their house. So they were close to home. So. But Dee Dee asked Detective Braun matter why this person killed his mom. Yeah, right. And Detective Ronald stated he didn't know. Dee Dee then stated that the detective is a police detective and asked the detective would he ever be able to tell him why this person killed his mom, this 9 year old. So the boy told him how Jefferson, who's charged with first degree reckless homicide and possession of firearm by felon. He was on a cruiser style motorcycle and wearing a vest with gangster stickers on it consistent with the description of jackets and best motorcycle club patches like 1% 1 percenters. Right. So y' all who are not familiar. The. If you ever see people riding, there's a lot of great motorcycle clubs and whatever, but the, the 1 percenters, if you see that 1% patch, don't with them because they don't give a. They, they, they tell you, they tell the cops that they snow. We are outlaws. We do not follow your laws. We'll live the way we including murder. So the investigators reviewed the surveillance footage from the area and Jefferson was called on video passing through an intersection behind Williams wearing while wearing similar clothes that her son described. Right. So they had a Facebook group named Click Riders MC Cliqe all one word riders MCMC stand for motorcycle club was looked at by the police and photos matched in Jefferson's clothing and cruiser motorcycle were found on it.

[Cindy Overton]

Wow.

[Woody Everton]

Social media, right?

[Cindy Overton]

Yeah.

[Woody Everton]

The club members in the photos, which was posted on August 4, 2025, appear to be primarily older black males, with one in particular being considerably younger. In the solemn complaint, the younger black male was consistent with the suspect description provided by Dee Dee. Short hair, early 30s, chin beard, wearing a vest with motorcycle patches. And in these photos, this younger individual also had a black handgun with an extended magazine tucked in his front waistband. Now, it's important. In one of these photos, the same young person is seated on a black cruiser style Harley Davidson motorcycle. So the photos of Jefferson's motorcycle will run through the police's automatic license plate reader. It's known as flock, that's the acronym camera database. And the bike was found trailing behind William's car on the day of the shooting death. So they get him, right? They get him from this Facebook photo and run any like any license place associated with his name, come up with license plate. Then they run through the cameras which are everywhere now. And thankfully, thankfully I wish I had like that back in my day. The they. They got him. Police say the Facebook photos are all consistent with both the suspect as described by baby DD and the suspect motorcycle captured on the Flock camera system. So, and they of course they ask what may have sparked the shooting. Well, William's son told or Dee Dee told the investigators that a motorcycle hit the back of their car and then the rider pulled a firearm and shot his mama. Right. The Dee Dee say that the motorcycle pulled around the vehicle on the driver's side and the rider of the motorcycle pulled a gun from between his legs and and shot his mom through the windshield. Investigators found five fired brass CCI.45 caliber cartridge cases in the road where this happened. The cases were analyzed and determined to be consistent with all having been fired by the same firearm. Right. So as the investigation unfolded, cops were able to identify Jefferson, I told you through Facebook photos. And they got a search warrant for his house. And they recovered the motorcycle club vest that matched the one wore by the rider captured on the camera trailing behind William. And a black Glock 30. Which is when I used to carry a.45 caliber handgun with the holster and extended magazine. Yeah, this. This dude's right. The firearm was loaded with brass CCI.45 caliber cartridges. Same one. Same one as one's fired. They said this.45 caliber handgun was taken to the fusion center where it was subjected to NIBIN analysis and determined to be consistent with the being the firearm that fired all five.45 caliber cartridge cases at the homicide location. I want to talk about that real quick. So like a Morgan's case where they shot at the house and they fucked that up for the investigators. Any chance of getting DNA or prints but if they ever. They're never going to. If the. The. This shows how little she knows about police work. She was like well the dude got arrested in Beauregard Paris. I'm read that story next because it's important for sex crimes. And he. He's involved all up in Bradley. And she was like they need to find out if he's got. He's got a nine millimeter hand. But here's the deal. While they. Even though they. They messed it up of the DNA or in enchant fingerprints to show that the cops pick it up and process then if the cops it up, that's on them. But each round that is fired through a firearm, even though you may not be able to say it's that specific firearm. Right. Unless you cover the bullet with the strife. And because each one's unique, they can tell what caliber and what type of firearm was fired through by. By examining that not just 9 millimeter. The 9 millimeter 6 hour or 9 millimeter Ruger or 9 millimeter Glock seats. Each strike is. Is different. Makes sense. All right, so y' all don't pick up in scenes. But anyway, let me just say the rest of it. They started to go fund me William's family. And then they said that her body dropped in front of the very home where she created a haven for her babies. She had four children and was described as a fierce protector who had her dreams wrapped entirely around their futures. They said William sister said he just did it for no reason and he's being held on a $300,000 bond it's not enough crazy and sad and really really is sad. I want to talk about one more real quick. The end before we go for today. So we talk been talking about Burnham Parish. Burning parish. Burning parish. Right. Well I've been getting a ton of information on Beauregard parish as well which is a neighbor in Paris to burn in Paris, another very, very rural parish. So we're going to go to KL K A L B who I know those reports personally. Ms. Brooks sat on the front row with me all through Courtney's case. The major parts of it anyway. The KLB is also the ones that said I was shady. And y', all if you haven't listened to the Courtney Coco series. The it was funny actually the the reporter who's no longer there naturally they sent a thing because the lifers were flooding the the platinum of calls about Corny's case and she sent an internal memo to her boss throwing all kinds saying all kinds of nasty about me which she sent it to a lifer by accident and then we really blew that up. But I got nothing against KLB personally. They they were biased by the powers that be in I was hand or the sticks. The all right, so I want to play this the Now Beauregard is where these dudes got arrested. All right. The crimes happening good old Vernon Paris. So let's listen to it first up here on our Friday afternoon show. A nearly three three week investigation leads to the arrest of two men for inappropriately touching two children. 74 year old Kenneth Reed Senior and 31 year old Justin Stevens were both arrested for multiple counts of first degree rape. The Borgard Parish Sheriff's office began investigation after a report on August 1 of a juvenile being inappropriately touched. The alleged offenses happened between April of 2024 through July of this year. Through the investigation statements from a victim led to Reed and Stevens being named as suspects. Yesterday Reed and Stevens were taken into custody. Kenneth Reed is charged with three counts of first degree rape of a minor under the age of 13 and Justin Stevens is booked on four of the same charges. The investigation is ongoing. So they were arrested in Beauregard Parish. The and the sheriff there says two Bogart Parish men are accused of raping very young children and what he calls the most disturbing case he's been involved with in quite some time. The these fine gentlemen were from Deridder and Vernon Parish and they crossed over into Bogart Parish to do this. Kenneth Leslie Reed Senior, 74 years old, right?

[Cindy Overton]

Yeah.

[Woody Everton]

And Justin Allen Stevens, 31, both of her derider which is in Burning Parish, y'. All. And one of these is involved in my investigation into Bradley's murder. But the. I won't say to what extent and but you know, shout out to Bogarts Parish sheriff's offices getting this done. They got the report of on August 1st of a child being inappropriately touched. And the child gave the statements and evidence which led to these two being the suspects and abuse of two young victims in this court of Sheriff Sheriff Mark Hefford. Both suspects first the first degree rape of victim under 13 and guess what State of Louisiana that actually can be prosecuted under death penalty. And no one's ever the only one person and and unless it's happened since I got a law enforcement the only one person was ever convicted and given the death penalty for raping a kid under 12. It used to be 12, now it's not 13. And they used to call it aggravated rape, now they call it first degree rape. They changed that since I've been out. But the. And they've. He was from Jefferson Parish and then they commuted his to life.

[Cindy Overton]

Good.

[Woody Everton]

No.

[Cindy Overton]

Oh, he's gonna get the death to life. Sorry.

[Woody Everton]

So but technically the. If found guilty they could get the death penalty. And the I naturally there's people out there that have turned off this show because I talk about the death penalty so much. But the. And I don't really give a. The. The deal being is if you don't think because you've never been involved with it the heinous. There I am trying to throw some adages on murders but the aggravating circumstances on murders that we I've discussed over the years warrant death penalty. Great, whatever. But who in the world can think of like a three year old or two year old getting anally penetrated with a penis or in their vagina in their mouth, raped over and over and over passed around the room between these two idiots. No, I'm serious. Passed around the past back in the fourth between two recliners between these kids like it's their own sex toy and they don't deserve the death penalty. And now she's crying. I didn't make you cry on the other one. Leah did make her cry on the other one. Make her cry on this one. But my point being is it does. Do those people deserve to breathe?

[Cindy Overton]

No, they don't deserve to breathe. But just as people have differing political views and religious views, people no matter it could happen. And there's going to be plenty of listeners that say well my family member was blah, blah Blah. And I still don't think that way.

[Woody Everton]

Yeah and that's fine. It's America and they have the free freedom of choice. But the I have listened to these babies talk about this being done to them hours and hours and hours. One case, over 40 victims. They don't deserve to breathe. And you know numerous of the ones that got convictions on told me if I get out I will do it again. The 74 year old proves that it doesn't matter how old you are.

[Cindy Overton]

And he's done it. I would assume he's done it before.

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[Woody Everton]

Done and actually use it a while. And meanwhile in Vernon Parish the law enforcement we get nothing. But you know what they, they still giving this. We may get crickets but starting this week bringing legal, legal powers against them. So then you're going to get. Because it's coming. It will be sounding like crickets anymore.

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[Woody Everton]

Yalls way you, you gonna, you're gonna put up or shut up. And either way it's a no win situation for you. You have anything else sweetie? No. All right. I only made a cry once today y'. All. And I'm Woody Everton. Cindy Overton, you host a true crime time for this Taco Tuesday Holler. Till later. Peace. If you work as a manufacturing facilities engineer, installing a new piece of equipment can be as complex as the machinery itself. From prep work to alignment and test testing. It's your team's job to put it all together. That's why it's good to have Grainger on your side. With industrial grade products and next day delivery, Grainger helps ensure you have everything you need close at hand through every step of the installation. Call 1-800-GRAINGER Click grainger.com or just stop by Grainger for the ones who get it done.