Real Life Real Crime: True Crime Time For December 11, 2025

School Shooting Plot, Million-Dollar Fraud & Tragedy in Colorado

Hosts: Woody Overton & Cindy Everton
Release Date: December 11, 2025

Episode Overview

In this episode, Woody and Cindy cover a range of harrowing and shocking true crime stories from across the United States and Canada, blending their trademark blend of raw storytelling, emotional reactions, and a bit of sardonic humor. Major topics include a foiled school shooting plot in Indiana, a multi-million-dollar fraudster in California, a tragic crash in Colorado caused by a carjacking repeat offender, a Canadian police officer’s disturbing abuse of power, a mother’s deadly robbery to send her daughter to cheerleading camp, and a squatter scam in Florida. The hosts also weigh in with personal stories, commentary on the justice system, and candid reactions.

Key Discussion Points

1. Foiled School Shooting Plot in Indiana

• [05:37] Cindy recounts the case of Trinity Stockley, a 19-year-old sentenced to 20 years (8 suspended) for plotting a mass school shooting at Mooresville High School, Indiana.
• The tip came through the FBI Sandy Hook line after a friend reported Stockley’s intentions, including her admiration of the Parkland shooter and acquisition of an AR-15 and bulletproof vest.
• Stockley pleaded guilty, apologized in court, and referenced her improved mental health due to supportive surroundings in jail.
  • Quote: “I am so sorry I put you in that position of fear. ...I've gotten a lot better since I've been surrounded by people that care about me.” – Cindy quoting Stockley [06:18]
• Prosecutors and the FBI emphasize public vigilance: “When the public speaks up, lives can be saved.” – FBI Indianapolis Office via Cindy [07:57]

2. Multi-Million Dollar Fraud in California

• [09:25] Woody details an elaborate scheme by Mary Carol McDonald, 73, who defrauded banks of over $14 million by posing as an heiress to the McDonnell Aircraft fortune.
• She used claims of an “$80 million secret trust” to secure loans, then replicated her scam with additional banks and unpaid employees.
• Now a fugitive, believed to be in Dubai.
  • Quote: “If it works once, right?” – Woody [11:13]
• Discussion includes skepticism about how an elderly woman could blend in Dubai and commentary on cultural stereotypes.
  • Quote: “I guess I’m showing my ignorance, but how many Islamic women... living in Dubai have blonde hair, blue eyes, and are in their 70s?” – Woody [13:25]

3. Tragedy in Colorado: Family Killed by Repeat Offender

• [17:33] Cindy recounts a fatal crash that killed Alvin Corrado and his three children when a parolee, Walter Hulling (31), stole a car and crashed it head-on into their vehicle.
• Hulling, with an 11-page criminal record and on parole, also died in the crash.
• Survivors included two severely injured children (Mia Corrado and Jace Green’s brother).
• Woody and Cindy express outrage at systemic failures.
  • Quote: “We build prisons.” – Woody [27:09]
  • Quote: “This guy's criminal history and the fact that he appears to have been on parole...seems like we are failing the community.” – Cindy quoting DA George Brockler [26:22]
• Emotional recounting of 13-year-old Mia’s injuries and her harrowing consciousness during the accident.
  • Quote: “The things Mia saw and went through...no person should ever have to witness, let alone 13 years old witnessing it of her very own family.” – Cindy [29:04]

4. Dog House Grill Fraud ($30 Million)

• [30:45] Woody introduces a news report clip: Matthew Billingsley, former manager of Doghouse Grill, orchestrated a $30 million Ponzi scheme using investor money and fake documents; sentenced to over 7 years in federal prison.
• Only ~$138,000 repaid so far.
• Hosts mock the absurdity and low sentences for such large-scale fraud.
  • Quote: “$30 million and he got seven years in prison. That's $4 million a year.” – Woody [33:50]
  • Quote: “Pretty sure if he had the means to pay it back, he would already paid it back.” – Woody [33:13]

5. Canadian Cop Exploits Women via Police Database

• [35:06] Cindy details a Canadian police sergeant, Robert Eric Siminchuk, who pled guilty to using police records to contact, groom, and pursue intimate relationships with at least 30 women, some of whom were domestic violence victims or suicidal.
• He used an alias and would “accidentally” contact women, then engage them with fake identities.
  • Quote: “Preying on the vulnerable.” – Woody [35:46]
• Methods included use of police information, with some relationships lasting years; discovered via facial recognition by a cautious victim.
  • Quote: “I can’t describe the feeling...Fear of this person, his power and what he would do.” – Victim testimony via Cindy [44:41]
• The hosts and sources emphasize betrayal and risk to vulnerable populations.

6. California Mom Kills to Fund Cheerleading Camp

• [47:14] Woody shares a case of Cherie Townsend, who killed retired nurse Susan Leeds in a mall parking lot to steal $2,000, intending to pay for her daughter's cheerleading trip.
• Leeds was stabbed 17 times; Townsend tried to sue police when first released but was later rearrested after DNA and a cell phone linked her to the crime.
• Townsend faces 26 years to life; hosts express disgust at the premeditation and tragedy.
  • Quote: “This is a hard, cold fact. I mean, premeditated as...You just can’t.” – Woody [52:12]
  • Quote: “I’m glad she was thinking of her daughter...So we could stab a nurse to death.” – Cindy [50:51]

7. Florida Squatter Standoff

• [52:48] Woody covers the story of a homeowner, Charlotte Brown, who lost use of her house after a scam buyer moved in as a squatter, exploiting Florida’s tenant laws. Despite police reports and attempts at eviction, the squatter remains, exposing flaws in the property/eviction system.
• The hosts digress into the limitations of civil law and share personal anecdotes.
  • Quote: “Technically it is a civil matter...A little pistol play would come into action.” – Woody [56:07]
  • Quote: “Isn’t that crazy?” – Woody [56:41]

Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On School Shooting Tip Line:
  “Thank God the little girl spoke up and the other one's going to get help...that just reminds you the world that we live in now.” – Woody [08:26]
• On Elderly Fraudster’s Scam:
  “Guess what? If you have a secret trust fund, it must really be a secret.” – Woody [14:38]
• On Carjacking Crash System Failure:
  “He’ll probably be out of jail before she gets out of the hospital.” – Woody [29:15]
• On Ponzi Schemer:
  “I mean why not? Why don’t you check it? I’m like, if it’s the secret, you can still tell me.” – Woody [15:15]
• On Cop's Abuse of Power:
  “This is the man doing this.” – Cindy [36:19]
  “He’s a constant shithead. And he thankfully has been caught.” – Woody [46:30]
• On Squatting Law:
  “We have to get an eviction notice to kick him the fuck out.” – Woody [56:39]

Timestamps for Major Topics

• [05:37] – Indiana school shooting plot
• [09:25] – Southern California multi-million dollar fraud
• [17:33] – Colorado family tragedy involving repeat offender
• [30:45] – Fresno Dog House Grill $30 million fraud
• [35:06] – Canadian police officer exploits women
• [47:14] – California cheerleading camp murder/robbery
• [52:48] – Florida squatter real estate scam

Tone and Style

Woody and Cindy maintain their signature candid, conversational, and sometimes irreverent tone, mixing hard truths and dark stories with personal asides and a bit of gallows humor. They’re blunt in their opinions on justice, the system’s failures, and the absurdity of some criminal exploits, providing a mix of information, empathy, and down-to-earth commentary. The dialogue often includes Southern colloquialisms and unfiltered reactions, ensuring the podcast feels personal and raw.

Summary Takeaway

This episode of Real Life Real Crime delivers a gripping, fast-paced survey of true crime stories both bizarre and heartbreaking. Woody and Cindy guide listeners through cases of near misses, tragic systemic failures, audacious fraudsters, and the chilling abuses of those in power—all the while infusing their analysis with sharp-eyed skepticism, humor, and heartfelt concern for victims. The episode is a compelling mix for true crime devotees wanting both the details and the honest, human reactions behind them.