Real Life Real Crime – True Crime Time for December 12, 2025
Hosts: Woody Overton & Cindy Overton
Date: December 12, 2025
Episode Title: Holiday Cheer, School Bullying Horror & December 12th Crime Stories
Episode Overview
This episode blends the festive vibes of December with chilling real crime updates from around the world. Woody and Cindy Overton, with their signature dynamic (sometimes darkly funny, always real), serve up a relay of recent stories: a police shootout in Texas, the tragic murder of a San Francisco social worker, a school scandal involving THC candies, international oddities in Japan and China, and historical crime anniversaries. The show also confronts difficult topics like school bullying and the horrors of the Nanjing Massacre, while keeping the conversation candid and (in spots) light-heartedly domestic.
Festive Banter & Holiday Traditions
[01:15–04:33, 38:25–38:40]
- Woody and Cindy open with playful banter about the holidays—Christmas snacks, sweet vs. savory treats, and holiday family traditions.
- Woody: "For every sweet you make, you have to make something... what's it called?"
- Cindy: "Savory."
- Woody: "Savory. Deal." [02:10]
- Woody jokes about needing "shrimp dip" on Christmas, and the couple affectionately teases each other about snack preferences.
- Cindy: "He is ashamed to admit that he’s a sweet eater." [03:25]
- Woody: "I don't get up in the middle of the night and sneak to eat sweet."
- Cindy: "I don't sneak. I walk out proud." [03:35]
1. Domestic Crime Stories
Texas Shootout/Suicide by Cop
[04:33–07:17]
- Event: In Bullard, Texas, Sean Turner, 53, engaged in a shootout with Cherokee County deputies from his porch using an AR-style rifle, retreated into his home, kept firing, and ultimately died by suicide.
- Community Response: Sheriff Brent Dixon emphasized the need for community prayer and faith in local law enforcement.
- Quote (Dixon, as read by Cindy):
"Pray for our community, pray for our officers. Every one of them comes to work and wants to protect our community and wants to live, work and play in a safe environment... but have faith in us, come talk to us... let's keep our community safe." [06:22]
- Quote (Dixon, as read by Cindy):
San Francisco Social Worker Stabbing
[07:26–11:56]
- Victim: Alberto Rangel, 51, a beloved social worker at Zuckerberg San Francisco General Hospital.
- Incident: Rangel was stabbed multiple times in the HIV ward by a patient wielding a 5-inch kitchen knife. He was remembered as a deeply caring person.
- Colleague Quotes:
- "One of the most beautiful people I've ever met."
- “For him to lose his life at work when he was there to provide service… it's betrayal.”
- Colleague Quotes:
- Host Commentary:
- Woody criticizes policies replacing police with social workers in dangerous situations:
"You think it's gonna work to send in social workers to deal with someone like this? It's not gonna work out." [11:33] - Cindy agrees: “It’s already been proven that it doesn’t work out. More people are gonna die.” [11:56]
- Woody criticizes policies replacing police with social workers in dangerous situations:
2. School Scandals & Bullying
Teacher Leaves Out THC “Special Candy”
[14:56–25:40]
- Incident: Indiana High School teacher Deborah McGillum left THC-infused candies in her classroom; two students ate them, experiencing intoxication but no serious harm.
- Details:
- McGillum was arrested, facing charges: felony neglect of a dependent, possession of a controlled substance on school property, and driving while intoxicated. Bond set at $6,500.
- Students reportedly supported her, calling her caring:
“She was the best teacher in that school by far. People make mistakes. She’s a human being.” [24:40] - Woody succinctly summarizes:
"You can't bring your highness to school teaching kids. It's not allowed." [25:13] - Memorable moment: The couple humorously theorizes about teachers using drugs to get through the day—an example of the show's darkly comic tone.
Rhode Island High School Bullying Incident
[38:40–41:38]
- Event: Roger High School (RI) football players assaulted a special needs student in the locker room, whipping him with a strap/belt. The video went viral.
- Cindy: Details superintendents’ and police responses, emphasizing zero tolerance.
- Superintendent: "There’s no gray area when it comes to behavior like this." [40:19]
- Woody: Angry, direct response:
"Take them motherfuckers out and whip them." [39:12]
"Don't pick on kids in front of me." [38:57]
- Cindy: Details superintendents’ and police responses, emphasizing zero tolerance.
3. Bizarre & International Crime Stories
Tokyo: Gruesome Discovery at Adult Business
[26:22–28:01]
- Incident: Employee at a Tokyo adult entertainment business finds a decapitated baby’s head in a refrigerator while cleaning. Police later find arms and legs in a food container. The infant was under one year old.
- Cindy (shocked): “I was speechless when you asked me the question of what you wouldn’t have, like, in an adult store.” [36:02]
Japan/China: Fish Bone Theft for Meatballs
[28:02–35:07]
- Incident: 66-year-old Chinese restaurant owner, Wu, was arrested in Tokyo for stealing 30 kg (about 66 lbs) of leftover fish bones and tuna, valued at just $1.40, from a wet market.
- What she did: Used the stolen fish for her restaurant—making meatballs and other dishes.
- Public response: Some defend her for utilizing waste; others are scandalized she served the leftovers to customers.
- "If it's only sold at 210 yen per 30kg she should just ask the company nicely to buy it." [32:23]
- Woody jokes about Depression-era relatives hoarding leftovers, contrasting that with Wu’s criminal trespass.
- Concludes with a lighthearted riff:
- Woody: “No, but they're not breaking into a business and stealing... and then you're grinding them up and making meatballs out of them and selling them.” [34:58–35:06]
4. This Day in Crime History
[41:38–46:59] Woody runs through notable December 12th crimes and historical milestones:
- 1868: Vigilantes hang the Reno brothers, train robbers, in Indiana.
- 1913: Stolen "Mona Lisa" is recovered in Florence, Italy.
- 1937: USS Panay sunk by Japanese warplanes.
- 1989: "Queen of Mean" Leona Helmsley sentenced to prison for tax evasion.
- 1997: 14-year-old indicted for school shooting.
- 1937: The Nanjing Massacre ("Rape of Nanking") begins. Massive atrocity follows:
- "100,000 to 200,000 civilians and prisoners of war, and some newer estimates say it's more..." [45:20]
- "20,000 women and children raped. 30,000 plus POWs executed..." [45:59]
- Cindy: "That's a lot, lot of people. Probably the most I've ever heard of." [46:39]
- Woody: "I still can’t get a tear out of you lately. You’re becoming hard." [47:00]
Memorable Quotes & Moments
- Woody on School Bullying Video:
“Take them motherfuckers out and whip them.” [39:12] - Cindy, on San Francisco case:
“No more people. It's already been proven that it doesn't work out.” [11:56] - Woody on THC Candy Scandal:
“You can't bring your highness to school teaching kids.” [25:13] - Domestic Playfulness:
“Your only wish in our marriage is for me to not cry. Now you get it. Now you're trying to pull it out of me.” – Cindy [47:16]
Episode Structure and Tone
- Structure: Alternates true crime stories with lighter banter, history lessons, and international oddities. Frequent back-and-forth banter that breaks up the heaviness of the content.
- Tone: Gritty and blunt (Woody), with a touch of humor, warmth, and the occasional shock. Cindy acts as a grounding force with empathy and exasperation at the darker stories.
- Dynamic: Playful marital rapport helps temper the episode’s heavier crime details and keeps the show engaging for listeners.
Important Story Timestamps
- Holiday Banter & Snacks: 01:15–04:33
- Texas Shootout: 04:33–07:17
- San Francisco Social Worker Stabbing: 07:26–11:56
- THC Candy School Incident: 14:56–25:40
- Tokyo Dismembered Baby: 26:22–28:01
- Fish Bone Theft in Tokyo: 28:02–35:07
- Rhode Island Bullying: 38:40–41:38
- Historical Crime (Nanjing Massacre): 41:38–46:59
Closing Thoughts & Listener Messages
[47:43–49:14]
- The Overtons thank listeners, send out specific shout-outs and prayers, and urge everyone to “stay safe” during the holidays and beyond.
Summary:
The episode exemplifies Real Life Real Crime’s ability to balance disturbing, urgent stories with historical perspective and relatable, even warm, moments. Woody and Cindy showcase their unique chemistry while tackling current headlines and the cruelties (and oddities) of human behavior, always with an unvarnished, real-world edge.
End note:
For regular “lifers” or first-time listeners, the show delivers a blend of dark truth, compassion, and Cajun-inflected humor—stick around for both the cases and the camaraderie.
