True Crime Time For December 16, 2025 | When Abuse, Betrayal, and Justice Collide

Summary

Real Life Real Crime — "True Crime Time For December 16, 2025 | When Abuse, Betrayal, and Justice Collide"

Hosts: Woody Overton & Cindy Overton
Date: December 16, 2025

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Overview

This episode of Real Life Real Crime with Woody and Cindy Overton delivers a series of intense, true crime stories centered around the themes of abuse, betrayal, and the pursuit (and sometimes failure) of justice. Woody’s direct, sometimes irreverent style blends with Cindy’s compassion and insight as they tackle cases of parental abduction, bizarre repeat offenders, shocking child abuse, institutional betrayal by authorities, and international justice. The episode oscillates between deeply troubling and strangely humorous, all delivered in their signature candid, Southern tone.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Lighthearted Banter & The “Cold” Open

(03:36 - 09:07)

• Woody and Cindy kick off with jokes and banter about the freezing weather, swapping “colder than” euphemisms, setting a relaxed and personal tone.
  • “Colder than your heart.” — Cindy Overton [06:00]
  • “Colder than a brass toilet seat in the Yukon.” — Woody Overton [07:07]

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2. Family Matters: Utah Parental Abduction

(09:28 - 12:49)

• Case: A Utah man, Benjamin Despain, abducted his 5-year-old son, James, after a visitation, aiming to prevent him from undergoing routine surgery (adenoid removal).
• Despain sent an email to the child’s mother, Natalie, explaining his motivation. He was found and arrested two days later.
• Woody and Cindy relate with personal anecdotes about their own son’s similar surgery, noting how medical interventions can dramatically improve a child’s life.
  • “So he just stole the son.” — Cindy Overton [11:10]
  • “They handed him to me, he’s coming out of anesthesia… bloody murder, screaming. …You’re not leaving, this shit’s not normal!” — Woody Overton [12:33]

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3. The Serial “Butt Sniffer”: A Lighter—But Disturbing—Criminal

(12:54 - 24:12, continued at 23:20)

• Case: Kelise Crowder, notorious for following women in public spaces, crouching behind them, and sniffing their butts. Despite a documented history, he is repeatedly released after complaints, only to reoffend.
• Detailed testimony from a recent victim who filmed Crowder in a bookstore. Victims express frustration at the system’s failure to intervene.
  • “He was right under me… he said he was tying his shoe, supposedly, which he wasn’t. …It’s honestly infuriating.” — Victim Testimony [13:48]
  • “Some people deserve to be in jail cells.” — Woody Overton [15:04]
  • “Do you want your wife, your daughter, your granddaughter, having their butt sniffed by this asshole?” — Woody Overton [15:37]
  • Extended, humorous riffing from Woody and Cindy about the absurdity of a “serial butt sniffer,” usage of excuses, and how he keeps getting caught.
• Notable Moments:
  • “If you were a serial butt sniffer, I’d take you to Murder Bayou.” — Woody Overton to Cindy [24:20]
  • “He’s got a $100,000 bond for butt sniffing!” — Cindy Overton [23:57]

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4. Family Matters: Pennsylvania Child Abuse Horror

(25:11 - 29:21)

• Case: Two women in Pennsylvania (Amy Billett, Sarah Lynn Faber) arrested and charged with over 950 counts after horrifically abusing their adopted teenage son: duct taping him to the floor, starvation, forced cold showers, keeping him confined and under surveillance, even physically mutilating him.
• School officials initiated the investigation after noticing the boy was malnourished.
  • “They forced him to stand up for long periods… withheld food… lost 20 pounds.” — Cindy Overton [25:27]
  • “Slicing the genitals… yeah, I’m pretty sure they’re fucking twisted.” — Woody Overton [29:36]

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5. Effed Up Professionals: Rape, Grooming, and Murder by a Cop

(29:46 - 35:24)

• Case: Former Massachusetts police officer Matthew Farwell accused of sexually abusing a girl he met at 13 (he was 26), grooming her, impregnating her, and ultimately murdering her when she threatened to go public. He staged her death as a suicide.
  • “He began molesting when she was 15… So it makes it a little worse, right?” — Woody Overton [30:33]
  • “Her death was originally ruled a suicide. …But that was later reversed.” — Cindy Overton [33:50]
• The episode highlights the frustration and outrage that Farwell will not face the death penalty due to a prosecutor’s discretion.
  • “You start raping a girl when she’s 15, you’re a police officer…” — Woody Overton [34:26]
  • “Most honorable thing you could do, you start raping her when she’s 15, you get her pregnant, and because you don’t want to tell your wife or whatever… you strangle her to death.” — Woody Overton [34:49]

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6. Effed Up Professionals: The Demonic Pediatrician

(35:38 - 47:44)

• Case: Dr. Ernesto Cesar Torres, a Maryland pediatrician, convicted of sexually abusing dozens of young female patients over decades. He tried to blame the victims, saying they were possessed by “demonic entities.”
• The hosts, especially Woody, are incensed by his manipulation, lack of remorse, and the length of his abuse.
  • “He said he was a prophet in a previous life. And that there were demonic entities possessing these young girls into lying on him.” — Cindy Overton [40:55]
  • “Only young pre-pubescent girls are filled with the devil? Didn’t you know that?” — Woody Overton [41:02]
  • Victim’s statement: “Now I can’t trust male authority. My childhood was taken away from me.” — Cindy Overton relaying victim’s words [45:26]
  • Woody’s wrath: “When he goes house prison, he’s 70 years old. I hope they butt him every day.” [41:39]
• Legal efforts ongoing to prosecute further offenses and ensure a sentence far exceeding the remainder of his life.

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7. Worldwide Crime: Iran’s Swift and Final Justice

(48:57 - 53:01)

• Case: In Iran, a stepmother is executed by hanging at dawn for the murder of her four-year-old stepdaughter. The family of the victim is allowed to demand the death penalty (“Qisas” law).
• Woody contrasts the Iranian response with the long, procedural justice in the US, musing that such swiftness might be warranted in the most egregious abuse cases.
  • “Iran… they wish they had a pediatrician like that out there. They took care of his ass.” — Woody Overton [49:47]
  • “This is the only time in the history of my entire life… you’re ever gonna hear me give Iran [credit].” — Woody Overton [53:01]

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On abduction and medical neglect:
  • “Our son had the trifecta… tubes in his ears, adenoids removed, tonsils removed. Changed his life for the better.” — Cindy Overton [12:04]
• On the limits of justice and repeat offenders:
  • “He’s doing it again. Some people deserve to be in jail cells.” — Woody Overton [15:04]
• On shocking child abuse:
  • “It's like the witch fattening up Hansel and Gretel before she eats them.” — Woody Overton [28:45]
• On predatory officials:
  • “Age of consent in Massachusetts… that needs to be changed.” — Cindy Overton [32:37]
  • “Imagine strangling the woman that you got pregnant. The most personal form of death that there is.” — Woody Overton [35:07]
• On the demonic defense:
  • “And there were demonic entities possessing these young girls into lying on him.” — Cindy Overton [40:55]
  • “I hope they butt him every day.” — Woody Overton [41:39]

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Timestamps for Major Segments

• 03:36 – Opening exchanges; “cold as” euphemisms, banter
• 09:28 – Utah parental abduction/medical interference
• 12:54 – Serial butt sniffer case w/ victim testimony
• 23:20 – Continued discussion of Crowder’s serial offenses
• 25:11 – Pennsylvania child abuse/duct tape case
• 29:46 – Massachusetts cop grooms, impregnates, and murders teen
• 35:38 – Maryland pediatrician child sexual abuse, “demonic possession” defense
• 48:57 – Iran: stepmother executed for child murder; host commentary on retribution

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Tone & Style

• Candid, coarse, Southern storytelling: Woody’s language is often unfiltered, with plenty of dark humor and outrage.
• Supportive dynamic: Cindy provides empathy and perspective, and acts as a check/balance in particularly sensitive segments.
• Victim-focused: Despite the rough-edged humor, the show is forthright about the trauma to victims and critical of institutional failures.

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For Listeners

This episode is a blend of twisted tales, moments of gallows humor, and unapologetic outrage. It exposes patterns of failed justice—where abusers are enabled by institutions, or punishment simply doesn't fit the crime—and contrasts it with places where justice is swifter (even if controversial). For anyone interested in true crime that doesn’t shy away from tough questions and emotional intensity, this episode offers a compelling and deeply human perspective.

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End of summary.

Transcript

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[Host Woody Overton]

You have the right to remain silent. Anything you say can and will be used against you in a court of law. You have a right to an attorney prior to it during any question. If you can't afford one, the court of appoint one for you. Do you understand your rights. When the wolf is at your close you running over that's for sure. It already knows all about you.

[Co-Host Cindy Overton]

Cut.

[Host Woody Overton]

You down no matter about you. Now you better watch the.

[Co-Host Cindy Overton]

You.

[Host Woody Overton]

Warning this episode of Real Life Real Crime. The podcast may contain descriptions of acts of violence or that of a sexual nature, and should be for people that are 18 years or older. He my warning people. I do not get the facts of these cases off of the Internet or for some television show. The facts I'm retelling you were presented to me by the victims of the crimes or the perpetrators who committed the crimes against the victims. My descriptions of the crime scenes, what I saw with my own two eyes. If you're going to get offended, please turn this podcast off now. Thank you. Hello everybody, and welcome to this episode of True Crime. Time for Tuesday, December 16, 2025. And I'm Woody Overton.

[Co-Host Cindy Overton]

I'm Cindy Overton.

[Host Woody Overton]

Back in the saddle and it's colder than let's give me some cold euphemisms.

[Co-Host Cindy Overton]

My daddy always said it would just titty.

[Host Woody Overton]

Yeah, yeah, that one's here.

[Co-Host Cindy Overton]

Probably not the most appropriate thing for.

[Host Woody Overton]

Me to say, but I heard that one too. I'm trying to think something colder than a well digger's ass. Okay, what else you got?

[Co-Host Cindy Overton]

Colder than your heart.

[Host Woody Overton]

Oh, God, if I'd have said that, you'd be crying. All right. Give me some. It's colder than euphonisms.

[Victim/Witness]

I couldn't find that on Apple music.

[Host Woody Overton]

Give me some. It's colder than A quotes. Here's what I found. All right, you ready?

[Co-Host Cindy Overton]

I got them two.

[Host Woody Overton]

All right, you give one and you give one, and I'll get one.

[Co-Host Cindy Overton]

Okay.

[Host Woody Overton]

All right. So y', all, seriously though, It's. It's like 20 degrees and the. I mean, it's just cold for southwest and well, the wind is chill. Is much colder than that, so. They said the cold is something everyone has felt. Some of us more than others. Whether you enjoy it or not, it's always a common type of conversation. Like most things weather related.

[Co-Host Cindy Overton]

Sometimes you need a way just say.

[Host Woody Overton]

How cold it is. Well, we're about to do that for you now.

[Co-Host Cindy Overton]

Yes.

[Host Woody Overton]

All right. So. Colder than a brass toilet seat in the Yukon. Yeah. Well, you all know the Yukon is province in northwest Canada. It's one of the coldest places on earth. And the temperatures can drop to a minus 60 degrees Fahrenheit. So they throw in a visual of a dude sitting on a frozen brass toilet seat or freezing brass toilet seat in this climate. And I don't think. I don't think anybody wants to do that.

[Co-Host Cindy Overton]

No. In fact, I love our towel warmer. I'm thinking about that. We need to get a towel warmer. I mean, a seat warmer for the toilet.

[Host Woody Overton]

It's not gonna be that cold that long. Towel warmer. Well, I guess you could use the other one every day, but I don't know what you got?

[Co-Host Cindy Overton]

I got colder than a day old dumpling.

[Host Woody Overton]

Okay, tell me about that.

[Co-Host Cindy Overton]

Well, of course, dumplings are known for being warm, comfort food, and they give us sustenance on a cool day. And these delicious pieces of cooked dough can be baked, fried, steamed, and boiled. I like fried and boiled. Steamed.

[Host Woody Overton]

I like them when you cook them in the gravy.

[Co-Host Cindy Overton]

Oh, yeah. Chicken and dumplings.

[Host Woody Overton]

Chicken and dumplings. Yeah, I think that's what they're talking about.

[Co-Host Cindy Overton]

Well, they have the, like the dumpling like.

[Host Woody Overton]

Well, I know they have other. Other types, but that's. That's what I'm talking. Yeah, that's what popped into my mind.

[Co-Host Cindy Overton]

And they are best devoured, of course. Fresh and hot. And dumplings left out in the cold for a day don't seem like a nice thing to eat at all.

[Host Woody Overton]

Yeah, you probably. You're probably probably right. All right, well, you know what? I'm gonna play one more and then we'll get down to some true crime time for. And this probably doesn't apply to all y', all, but I bet it applies to some of you. Colder than a mother in law's kiss.

[Co-Host Cindy Overton]

I knew you were gonna do that.

[Host Woody Overton]

And we'll just leave it at that. All right, let's get down some true crime time for this freezing cold Tuesday. What do you have? It's time for family matters.

[Co-Host Cindy Overton]

So we're going to Utah for this and we.

Utah?

[Host Woody Overton]

What part? That's cold there right now.

[Co-Host Cindy Overton]

Bountiful.

[Host Woody Overton]

Okay.

[Co-Host Cindy Overton]

So a Utah man who did not have custody of his five year old son has been charged with custodial interference after he took his son away to keep him from having a routine surgery.

[Host Woody Overton]

Oh, yeah.

[Co-Host Cindy Overton]

James DeSpain, he's five years old, was found safe on December 6, two days after his mother reported him missing. After a scheduled visitation with his father, who was 45 year old Benjamin Despain, the Bountiful Police Department said in a press release that Despain did not have custody of his son and did not return the boy to his mother after their visit. According to court documents obtained, Despain sent an email to James mother to tell her that he took their son away to keep him from having surgery. James's mother Natalie said she went to pick up her son from a visitation with DeSpain on December 2nd and when she arrived at his home, they were not there. That's when she received the email. So Natalie then told ksl, which is a news agency, that James was scheduled to have his adenoids removed on December 4th. Adenoid removal is a routine surgical procedure for children and disband. The daddy did not believe that the surgery was necessary. So he just stole the son.

[Host Woody Overton]

Right.

[Co-Host Cindy Overton]

So the mother expressed concern for his, you know, the father's mental state and believed that he could have taken James to Idaho or Montana. This is when they were searching for the boy. But Police announced on December 6 that James was found safe and Despain was taken into custody and he was booked into Davis County Correctional. A protective order was filed by Farmington second District Court on Tuesday against Despain and he was charged with custodial interference, which is only a misdemeanor. But our son had what they called the trifecta. We had the tubes put in his ears, his adenoids removed and his tonsils removed all on the same day.

[Host Woody Overton]

Yeah, I remember vividly.

[Co-Host Cindy Overton]

And it changed his life for the better. His speech improved. He didn't get sick like he did during that time. And although it was very difficult to see him coming out of that surgery and just it was miserable to watch him suffer like that. To watch him on this side of it is so much better.

[Host Woody Overton]

Absolutely agree. They're getting they handed to Me, it's come out of the anesthesia and just. I mean, bloody murder, screaming and whatever. Like, you got. I'm like, you the not leaving until. Because this shit's not normal. Right, Right.

[Co-Host Cindy Overton]

Anyway, let's go to.

[Host Woody Overton]

Burbank and you're ready for this one.

[News Reporter]

New tonight, a registered sex offender with a long rap sheet from peeping and prowling to residential burglaries is in jail once again. This time, Burbank police say several women inside a Nordstrom rack and Walmart reported Kelise Crowder was following them through the store, crouching below them and sniffing their butts. Police say surveillance video from inside the store confirmed it. Crowder has been arrested for this type of behavior many times over the years, even spending several years in prison back in 2011. He was arrested in 2021 for looking into a woman's bedroom window and released. And in 2023, a woman recorded this video of him in a Glendale bookstore getting behind her. And we spoke with her over the phone tonight. She says she cannot believe he's been let out of jail so many times.

[Victim/Witness]

I didn't realize he was so close to me until I heard, like, his jewelry or something. And he. He sounded extremely close to me. So that's when I turned around and noticed that he was right under me, like. Like, right under me. So that's when I stepped back towards the bookcase, and I asked him what he was doing, and he said that he was tying his shoe, supposedly, which he wasn't. And I kind of backed away, and I went to a different aisle and just started looking at the footage. And that's when I realized that he was smelling me and he smelled another person in the store. It's honestly infuriating because they know that he does this. He's done this for 13 plus years, so they know what he's going to do when they release him again. So it's this negligence, and it's disgusting. It's really disappointing that the justice system allows this.

[News Reporter]

Police could not say why Crowder was released after that 2023 incident, but they tell us he is in jail now on $100,000 bail.

[Host Woody Overton]

So there you have a little bit of the lighter side of crime. The serial. They actually named him the serial butt sniffer.

[Co-Host Cindy Overton]

The video. The video.

[Host Woody Overton]

This girl is facing the camera. Security store. The camera in the store. And I guess she's doing whatever, drinking her coffee or whatever. And this dude literally gets on the floor behind her, and you can see his head go up to her butt and he's sniffing it. But he's been doing this for 11 fucking years. We've talked about him before. I've done a story on him before he got out, and he's doing it again. Some people deserve to be in jail cells. The. The.

[Co-Host Cindy Overton]

I mean, do you want your wife.

[Host Woody Overton]

Or your daughter, your granddaughter having their butt sniffed by this asshole? No, he's not raping them yet, but he's sniffing their butt. That's just about as most violating as you can get without touching somebody.

[Co-Host Cindy Overton]

Right?

[Host Woody Overton]

Don't you think?

[Co-Host Cindy Overton]

No, I do.

[Host Woody Overton]

You're still in that person's body hair.

[Co-Host Cindy Overton]

Hey, y'.

All.

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[Host Woody Overton]

I'm not saying they're farting anything. I'm just saying you're still in there. You're. I don't know if he's sniffing the butts. Trying to catch a whiff of the crotch.

[Co-Host Cindy Overton]

Yeah, there's something.

[Host Woody Overton]

But you're stealing. That's. Yeah. You have a reasonable expectation. The privacy. And I believe that whatever private whiff area you have down there or whatever is your shit.

[Co-Host Cindy Overton]

Yeah.

[Host Woody Overton]

And nobody should be in a Barnes and Noble getting their shit sniffed. Yeah, by Cyril. But, sir.

[Co-Host Cindy Overton]

Well, we said. You said it before when you did the story before. He's going to do it again.

[Host Woody Overton]

Oh, you. That's right.

[Co-Host Cindy Overton]

He's still doing it now he's got.

[Host Woody Overton]

$100,000 bond for butt sniffing.

[Co-Host Cindy Overton]

Yeah.

[Host Woody Overton]

Never touched anybody. No, stupid. They have cameras. You're tying your shoe. Excuse might have worked, but they have cameras.

[Co-Host Cindy Overton]

She hurt his jewelry. If I was a serial butt sniffer, I would be like, incognito. As incognito as I could get. Not a sound.

[Host Woody Overton]

If you were a serial butt sniffer, I'd take you to murder by you.

[Co-Host Cindy Overton]

I would want you to take me to murder by you. If I was a serial butt sniffer.

You just said if I was a serial butt sniffer, I would take my jury off.

[Host Woody Overton]

That means my brain never even thought about being me. Being a butt. Serial butt sniffer. Golly, you're twisted.

[Co-Host Cindy Overton]

Yes, I'm the twisted one.

[Host Woody Overton]

Y' all should have seen her face when I was playing that video. And she didn't know it was coming. She was like, what the. Then you were thinking, who? Serial butt sniffer.

[Co-Host Cindy Overton]

Now I was thinking, we've talked about him before and. Repeat offender. Repeat offender, Repeat offender.

[Host Woody Overton]

All right, what you got? It's time for Family Matters.

[Co-Host Cindy Overton]

I have two Pennsylvania women who are now behind bars for tormenting their adopted teenage son by duct taping him to his bedroom floor.

[Host Woody Overton]

Jesus.

[Co-Host Cindy Overton]

They forced him to stand up for long periods of time and they withheld food from him, which caused him to lose 20 pounds. These are two women that went through.

[Host Woody Overton]

An adoption process which is not easy. Yes, they get that monthly check, too. They.

[Co-Host Cindy Overton]

So Amy Billett, who's 51 years old, and Sarah Lynn Faber, who's 37, are facing more than 950 counts each. Per prosecutors and the docket sheet, there are more than 460 counts of unlawful restraint of a minor by a parent with risk of bodily injury and. And more than 460 counts of false imprisonment of a minor by a parent. Other charges include endangering the welfare of a child, simple assault and terroristic threats. These are his parents. According to a criminal complaint. It was school officials who were concerned and they reached out to police in early September in brookville after the 16 year old boy showed up to school looking malnourished. They had not seen him since May of 24. He typically goes to virtual school. The boy had lost roughly 20 pounds in that time span. Obviously, when you're 16 years old, that should be a time of growth, right? Authorities interviewed the boy and he detailed abuse at the hands of these women. And he said he would be confined to his room that lacked any books or electronics or toys for hours at a time. And cameras were monitoring his every movement. The cameras had motion sensors and the women would get upset if he moved too much. He claimed that as a form of punishment, the two women would strip him naked and force him to take a cold shower. Other punishments included making him live in the basement for a week with only wearing his underwear. And the suspects also strapped him down with duct tape to the basement floor. They also sliced his genitals.

[Host Woody Overton]

Oh my God.

[Co-Host Cindy Overton]

And cut his arm with a blade.

[Host Woody Overton]

It's fucking entertainment.

[Co-Host Cindy Overton]

Which caused excessive bleeding, obviously. He said. Luckily I didn't die from that. And Faber and the two women threatened to squirt cat insulin into his eyes. Child protective services removed him from the home and took him to a hospital where he regained the weight he lost within weeks. The boy explained to investigators that when he was first placed in the suspect's home, things were good. Thought it was going to be fun. There were toys and books and they would read to me bedtime stories every night. But the situation began to take a turn for the worse when it's like.

[Host Woody Overton]

The witch fattening up Hansel and Gretel before she eats them.

[Co-Host Cindy Overton]

They began to withhold sugar based foods. They said that made him hyper.

[Host Woody Overton]

And.

[Co-Host Cindy Overton]

And then they began to take food away from him. They also forced him to lay on the floor without a mattress. And on a couple occasions, as they've said repeatedly in this. Duct taped him to the floor. But both suspects were arrested on Tuesday and remain in Jefferson county prison, both with $500,000 bonds. And their next court date is December 19th.

[Host Woody Overton]

Nice. Nice.

[Co-Host Cindy Overton]

The.

[Host Woody Overton]

I mean.

[Co-Host Cindy Overton]

And these are the winners.

[Host Woody Overton]

Yeah. Yeah. Neither One of them's Mr. Mill.

[Co-Host Cindy Overton]

Nope.

[Host Woody Overton]

And. But duct taping. Slicing the genitals.

[Co-Host Cindy Overton]

Yeah.

[Host Woody Overton]

Yeah. I'm pretty sure they're fucking twisted.

[Co-Host Cindy Overton]

Right. Just like this next Cat.

[Host Woody Overton]

It'S time for effed up professionals. And I told y' all about this effed up professional before. But now they've come to the decision of what they're going to do with them. And if I tell you straight away that I disagree with the decision, then you know what. What it's going to be about. But here it comes anyway. Let's say in Massachusetts. Well, it wouldn't matter because it's a federal crime and it's a copy. Former cop, Massachusetts. All right. And he is accused of murdering his pregnant lover. It's pretty bad, right?

[Co-Host Cindy Overton]

Yeah. Say so.

[Host Woody Overton]

Who he began molesting when she was 15. So it makes it a little worse. Right. But he will not face the death penalty if. If he is convicted and scored in the Department of Justice. Or piece of shit's name is Matthew Farwell and he faces life in prison. After federal prosecutors were directed by US Attorney General Pam Bondi not to pursue capital punishment. This court in NBC Boston. See, he. This dude's 38 years old. He was formerly a SL. I'm sorry? Stoughton Police Department police officer. Right. And he was charged with murdering. She was then 23 year old Burchmore at her Canton apartment in 2021. Then takes the step further. Was he the Brooks cleared it? No, he staged the scene to look like a suicide.

[Co-Host Cindy Overton]

Yeah.

[Host Woody Overton]

Or try to say it was suicide. Right. And Birch Moore was three months pregnant when she was killed. And she told Farwell that the baby was his. Now let's back it up a couple years. There are fine effed up professional. Farwell began having sex with Burchmore when she was 15 years old and she worked as a volunteer at the police department.

[Co-Host Cindy Overton]

I remember this.

[Host Woody Overton]

Right. He was 26.

[Co-Host Cindy Overton]

Yeah.

She began volunteering at the department when.

[Host Woody Overton]

She was just 13. And was groomed and molested by two other UP professionals on the force. Farwell later admitted that he had had sex with Birchmore, but only after she had turned 16.

[Co-Host Cindy Overton]

Oh, that's okay.

[Host Woody Overton]

Which is the age of consent and Massachusetts.

[Co-Host Cindy Overton]

That needs to be changed.

[Host Woody Overton]

That does need to be changed. Right. She had been desperate to have a child, prosecutor said. And threatened to expose her relationship with Farwell if he didn't impregnate her. When she finally became pregnant with a son, Birchmore was ecstatic and gave Farwell regular updates about the baby quotations. Birchmore expressed excitement to farewell about her due date. Ultrasounds, genetic testing, gender reveals and doctor's appointments. She booked prenatal care appointments that post dated her death. Right. Why would you do that if you're going to commit suicide. But it was never to be. She was found dead in her apartment on February 4th, your daddy's birthday. Day before my right.

[Co-Host Cindy Overton]

Yeah.

[Host Woody Overton]

And with prosecutors saying that Farwell had strangled her days earlier in the stage scene. Imagine strangling the woman that you got pregnant. Her death was originally ruled a suicide. Haley, we love you.

[Co-Host Cindy Overton]

But that was later reversed.

[Host Woody Overton]

Oh, look at this. Fucking whatever your dumb ass name is. In. In Georgia.

[Co-Host Cindy Overton]

This originally ruled a suicide, but that.

[Host Woody Overton]

Was later reversed and Farwell was charged with murder. A charge of killing an unborn child was added in October. Of course, he's pled not guilty to all charges and well, you know what?

[Co-Host Cindy Overton]

You got a guaranteed trial on your hands now, madam or Mr.

[Host Woody Overton]

Prosecutor. Because the powers that be said don't charge it with a death penalty. It's okay. You start raping a girl when she's 15, you're a police officer. Of course, in my mind, this highest profession, most honorable thing you could do. You start raping her when she's 15, you get her pregnant.

[Co-Host Cindy Overton]

Yep.

[Host Woody Overton]

And because you don't want tell your wife or whatever the that you got going on. And you strangle her to death. The most personal form of death that there is. And break her neck. Then you stages to look like a hanging.

[Co-Host Cindy Overton]

Yeah.

[Host Woody Overton]

And leave her there for days.

[Co-Host Cindy Overton]

And she's got you.

[Host Woody Overton]

And you. Yeah. And she's got your child. And you. Meanwhile you're out eating pizza or riding your patrol car doing whatever the it is you're doing, waiting on her body to be discovered.

[Co-Host Cindy Overton]

Just went on with his life.

[Host Woody Overton]

Evil.

[Co-Host Cindy Overton]

All right.

[Host Woody Overton]

What you got?

[Co-Host Cindy Overton]

Evil.

[Host Woody Overton]

It's time for effed up professionals.

[Co-Host Cindy Overton]

This is pretty evil too. A former Maryland pediatrician has sentenced to 30 years in prison for sexual abuse after claiming his patients were possessed by demonic entities which forced them to lie about his heinous actions. They. I didn't do anything. They. They've just got to be.

[Host Woody Overton]

You get multiple. But oh no, it's not my fault. The devil is in them.

[Co-Host Cindy Overton]

Yeah. Ernesto Cesar Torres, who was 74 years old, was handed his fate Dec. 8 in a Frederick county courtroom after he was convicted earlier this year of sexually abusing an 11 year old female patient. In total, Torres faced more than 97 criminal charges accusing him of abusing dozens of patients over decades. Torres was convicted in March on charges of sexual abuse of a minor and three counts of sexual offense in the third degree in connection to the 11 year old female victim. And she goes by the initials MH.

[Host Woody Overton]

So 11 years old. 11 year old.

[Co-Host Cindy Overton]

MH the victim's mom had called Frederick Police on May 7th of 2019 to report that her daughter had been sexually abused by a pediatric exam.

[Host Woody Overton]

Look, this is not like the, the ones that I dealt with one recently. It's a four year old saying whatever and there's no physical evidence, et cetera. This is, this is a 11 year old. That the world that we live in today. 11 year old certainly knows what's appropriate and what's not appropriate. But she's not the only one.

[Co-Host Cindy Overton]

No.

[Host Woody Overton]

And so 11 year old is telling you that he did, he did my whatever, you know, and then you get more and more and more.

[Co-Host Cindy Overton]

So the mother told police that she had brought her daughter into the doctor's office for a mild skin condition. The child told the mother that Torres made her uncomfortable by placing his hands down her pants and touching her down there during the exam.

[Host Woody Overton]

Well, I could see and it happens. And you. I mean we raised two girls and stuff like that. If they have to go for that kind of examination, there should always be a nurse in the room. Right?

[Co-Host Cindy Overton]

There should be.

[Host Woody Overton]

There should be a witness.

[Co-Host Cindy Overton]

Yes.

[Host Woody Overton]

I mean that's like fucking rule number one. And when I used to have the physician examiner's board with doctors and for the nurse and also the doctors nurse got in trouble. That was a big deal. The doctor is not supposed to examine a patient of the opposite sex generals without a witness.

[Co-Host Cindy Overton]

Yeah.

[Host Woody Overton]

Why in the would you. And you're doing it with an 11 year old kid.

[Co-Host Cindy Overton]

Yeah. Well, and more so during an interview with Child Protective Services and the Child Advocacy center, they said that MH described Torres sliding his hands down her pants and rubbing her vaginal area. They began an investigation and that uncovered at least 24 other female victims between the years 1980 and 2018.

[Host Woody Overton]

There you have it. And that's not all of them. That's. So that's only the ones who admitted to it. Like on my previous cases, a lot of them are grown. Like in this case, that's 20 or how many years? 80s, 20, 24. That's 20. Fuck, that's a lot. 40 some years. And the. Those people are going to be grown and everything else. I know what kind of work it takes to go out and get every juvenile patient record that that dude had since he's been in existence as a, as a pediatrician and go make contact with him, try to find them. A lot of them are married now, have different last names. It's a fucking shit show.

[Co-Host Cindy Overton]

So attorney Charlie Smith and he's the state's attorney, Charlie Smith. He said that some of the parents said they thought he was doing an abdominal sort of survey. But he says meanwhile he had his hands down her pants and he was committing a sex offense right in front of the mother. So he was definitely bold and brazen in what he did.

[Host Woody Overton]

So in court, he kept getting away with it.

[Co-Host Cindy Overton]

On Dec. 8, Smith said Torres tried to blame his victims and appeared to show no remorse.

[Host Woody Overton]

Narcissist.

[Co-Host Cindy Overton]

He did not take responsibility for his actions. He said he was a prophet.

[Host Woody Overton]

There you go.

[Co-Host Cindy Overton]

In a previous life.

[Host Woody Overton]

Thank you, Jesus.

[Co-Host Cindy Overton]

And that there were demonic entities that were possessing these young girls into lying on him.

[Host Woody Overton]

Only young pre pubescent girls are filled with the devil. Didn't you know that?

[Co-Host Cindy Overton]

And they were lying on him and saying what they were saying, which he thought was courageous.

[Host Woody Overton]

Yeah. And so I guess he's anointed with the touching the cast out the demons via rubbing where he shouldn't have been. Robin, he said.

[Co-Host Cindy Overton]

Smith described the 70 year old's attempt to shift responsibility to those he'd hurt as just horrible.

[Host Woody Overton]

Oh, he's so. When he goes house prison, he's 70 years old. I hope they butt him every day.

[Co-Host Cindy Overton]

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[Host Woody Overton]

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It's always vanishing. The commute, the errands, the work functions, the meetings. Selling your car. Unless you sell your car with carvana. Get a real offer in minutes, get it picked up from your door. Get paid on the spot so fast you'll wonder what the catch is. There isn't one. We just respect you and your time. Oh, you're still here. Move along now. Enjoy your day. Sell your car today. Pickup fees may apply. He already traumatized them sexually molesting them to traumatize this young girl again by saying that now she's possessed by demons and that's why she came forward. Forward is out. Outrageous. While addressing the court, the young victim also described the long term effect of the abuse.

[Host Woody Overton]

Yep. Oh and fuck. He got paid to do it.

[Co-Host Cindy Overton]

She says now I can't trust male authority. My childhood was taken away from me.

[Host Woody Overton]

Yep.

[Co-Host Cindy Overton]

She said that she's the mother explained how she'd taken her children to Torres and she had trusted him and she had been going to visits there for 15 years. I know.

[Host Woody Overton]

I was just thinking, you know, I bet you he didn't do it to every kid that came in. I bet you he had a slick profile. Maybe not throwing shade or whatever, but lower income family or, you know, something like that. He's not going to just do it to everyone. Because I will always tell y', all, prisons are full of dummies. It's hard to catch a smart one. And this cat was using this position as a pediatrician, being very selective in getting his jollies beating his meat like it owed him money after they leave the room. Yeah. And to do it in front of the parents or maybe sent the nurse out of the room and then brother parents, because it's like, I know. I get over these. So he got off on that, too. Yeah, he got off on the mental aspect of doing it right in front of the parents.

[Co-Host Cindy Overton]

This is disgusting. During the court hearing, Torres received credit for 2,087 days he'd already served behind bars. Following his release, he'll be ordered to serve five years of supervised probation.

[Host Woody Overton]

How many years is he getting?

[Co-Host Cindy Overton]

It didn't say. All right, that's.

[Host Woody Overton]

Well, I would hope any time that he gets is a death sentence.

[Co-Host Cindy Overton]

So Smith, of course, is saying that he is planning to pursue those other outstanding cases that the other women that, you know, they.

[Host Woody Overton]

Hard to do. It's hard to do. It's hard to get people to come forward and actually tell the truth. And then, though, even they do that, it's even harder to get them to face the. The accuser. Man. Most people have moved on with their lives, or like, a lot of people are survivors, not victims. And like him, I'm not doing it. And he's all right now, so. Can't believe he's 70 years old, still doing it.

[Co-Host Cindy Overton]

Right. And says, we're looking forward to prosecuting the other cases and getting consecutive sentences so that the number of years he has to serve is going to be far longer than the number of days he has left on this earth.

[Host Woody Overton]

Right.

[Co-Host Cindy Overton]

And so we're in talks with the parents and the young ladies right now, and we have every intention of making sure he's held responsible for the remaining victims. And of course, they ask, you know, urge potential. Anyone that wasn't, you know, went to him to please come forward.

[Host Woody Overton]

Well, there you have it. And, yeah, death sentence, totally deserved not getting it, but he's getting it in. You know, Constance the screwdriver. Ed and all the other are putting Angola. Even though they get the death penalty, they're gonna die there. Right?

[Co-Host Cindy Overton]

Right.

[Host Woody Overton]

And they'll get to die free. But this dude got to play golf on Saturdays and. And be a physician for all these years, and now, you know, it's the truth because he's coming up with the devil.

[Co-Host Cindy Overton]

Oh, yeah. And he was a prophet in a previous Life.

[Host Woody Overton]

Yeah, him. All right, well, there you go. I'm gonna tell you one about it. Little something that makes Woody smile. It's time for worldwide crime. It's probably one of the last countries in the world that you know. Well, probably one of the first ones I'd never go to. But the last ones that we ain't going to. How about what's one of my least favorite places that you think I would ever go?

[Co-Host Cindy Overton]

I mean, in France for sure.

[Host Woody Overton]

No, it's much worse than that. Okay.

[Co-Host Cindy Overton]

Afghanistan.

[Host Woody Overton]

Well, it's real close. And since you're in the region, I'll go ahead and take us to Iran.

[Co-Host Cindy Overton]

Okay.

[Host Woody Overton]

All right. So now Iran, they wish they had a pediatrician like that out there because they took care of his ass.

[Co-Host Cindy Overton]

Yes, for sure.

[Host Woody Overton]

So the.

[Co-Host Cindy Overton]

And.

[Host Woody Overton]

Add this to it. It's time for family matters. So we're going Iran. And naturally, Iran is full of people. And how does everybody get there? How does Iran become populated?

[Co-Host Cindy Overton]

Sex.

[Host Woody Overton]

That's right. People get pregnant and they have babies. That's kind of how it works.

[Co-Host Cindy Overton]

There's a penis and a vagina.

[Host Woody Overton]

Yeah. Okay, that's too much. Everybody.

[Co-Host Cindy Overton]

Okay.

[Host Woody Overton]

I mean, I'm just for the. The clean sea of the show. That's not yours.

[Co-Host Cindy Overton]

Well, I think everybody that's listening to the show knows how babies get here, what they taste.

[Host Woody Overton]

They don't. I'm trying to tell them we got a lot of young, young listeners. The well in Iran. On Saturday, they executed a woman in the country's northwest after she was convicted of killing her four year old stepdaughter. Right. The child, who's identified as Ava, died in December of 20223 after sustaining brain injuries caused by wounds inflicted by her stepmother. And this is the corn to the judiciary's mise, an online news outlet now following the legal proceedings. The woman was sentenced in March 2024 to what they call Q I SAS KAS, which is a punishment which allows the family of a victim to demand the death penalty.

[Co-Host Cindy Overton]

That's awesome.

[Host Woody Overton]

Pretty sure we should have that here. The sentence was later upheld by the Supreme Court. So even in Iran, you got an appeals process, right? Senior Attabati, the Chief justice of the West Ihab province where the crime took place, said the execution was carried out at dawn on Saturday, adding that Ava's mother had firmly demanded retribution. Remember, it's the stepmom that got her biological mom's like, kill that. Right. The authorities did not name the executed woman. And I'll leave you with this a rant, Iran, which Retains the death penalty for crimes including murder and rape. Typically carries out executions by hanging at dawn to give you that last hours of darkness. And then they say it's brighter dawn until it isn't because you got a noose around your neck and the gallows swing open and you're hung by the neck until you're dead.

[Co-Host Cindy Overton]

Yeah.

[Host Woody Overton]

For murdering your 4 year old stepdaughter for this. This would be the only time in the history of my entire life probably I should never say never that you're. I'm. You're ever gonna hear me give Iran. So there you have it. And love and appreciate each every one of y'. All. Thank you for liking and listening and sharing y' all again from time to time. They like purge. I don't know what you would call that in the podcast industry. Maybe this because there's so many new podcasts in the world now. Like 700,000 when we started. Now over 8 million. Everybody's doing a podcast. But they purge you. You follow a podcast after a certain amount of time. You got to refollow them. Just make sure, you make sure you're still listening. So if you're not and we get messages all the time, where's the episode? Where's that worst episode? Look, if you follow, you can always like and all that good podcast bullshit follow real life, real crime. You will get an alert. It will, it will download to your. Even if you turn off the Al, it'll download to your phone. And when you go to look for anything real life or crime, the episodes will pop up in the order that they release. So every once in a while we got to remind you all that because they do it and it people don't get it. So there you have it.

[Co-Host Cindy Overton]

A lot of our new people are not podcast people. Right?

That's true.

They come because of the case. Which is great.

[Host Woody Overton]

Or cases. Yeah. And they'll come and go like you know, a lot of listeners came for Haley's and don't listen. Well, don't listen more or a lot of courting Cocos or whatever. And that's okay. The if, if I had to live through that and, and I knew the victims, I wouldn't want to hear about another victim either.

[Co-Host Cindy Overton]

Right, right, right.

[Host Woody Overton]

So. And I get that not. It's. It's all the ins and outs of podcasts and all that good podcaster. I mean we got eight what they call host red national commercials now because we have this fire ass agent that slanted us all these national accounts. Right. And we had an age of a bore who was making 30 whatever percent. And we're number one in the world. And we. I think we had to host Red. So that being said, I know it's a lot of commercials. If you don't like it. Patreon account basically commercial free early releases every day. And you can go to patreon.com, type in real life Real Crime. It breaks down all the tier levels. You can go to the Real Life. You can go to the app Store and download the Real Life Real Crime community app for free. And our subscribers through there are called convicts, and that's the different levels. And as always and from time to time somebody has a problem with subscription, just shoot us a note. Cindy will drop whatever the she's doing. I'll watch her do it every time she drops what she's doing and she fixes it or make it right one way or another.

[Co-Host Cindy Overton]

Absolutely. Because we are very thankful for you and we do not want you to have problems. Content.

[Host Woody Overton]

Absolutely correct. Yeah. And we get new subscribers every week. We're gonna do a Christmas special this year.

[Co-Host Cindy Overton]

I think we should.

[Host Woody Overton]

All right. But the. So tomorrow shows Cindy to tell you whatever the. If you. If you buy the subscription a year at a time, you get another discount.

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Yeah.

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All right. And it's. Which is already discounted if you buy it a year at a time.

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But you already get two months free.

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Right.

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Yeah.

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All right, so.

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And you can also give it as a gift.

That's right.

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Give the gift that keeps on giving at least six days a week.

Right.

[Host Woody Overton]

And I dropped a extra episode on Sunday just because I was Just kind of felt like I wanted to do that. And I was by myself, but since still had to edit it. But anyway, I got nothing else. That's enough podcast shit.

[Co-Host Cindy Overton]

I'm done.

You done?

I'm done.

[Host Woody Overton]

All right, well, I'm Woody Overton.

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I'm Cindy Overton.

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