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I'm Cindy Overton.
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Next to the last day of the year. All right.
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Yes.
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Yes, indeed. I was reading every year, they always put out an article about hangover prevention or hangover cures. And they put it out on another one yesterday. I guess what they said there is drinking. No. Yeah, basically. No, that actually was one of the things it said don't do. Yeah. Because your liver's got to process out whatever. And you keep drinking, it just prolongs the inevitable. The hair of the dog that bit you. They said don't drink. Don't drink. Or every time you, like, finish a.
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Beer drink of water alternate just ruins the whole bus.
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Yeah, Right. You gotta pay to play.
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They. I read, not recently, but I read a while back that there's, like, a certain point in your drinking, like, two to three drinks in where you're not gonna get, like, any better like this. You're high, you know, and you just need to learn how to maintain that and not go to the dark side of things.
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But as a professional, I can tell you that's crocky.
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Yeah, exactly.
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Absolutely.
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All right, so let's get out some true crime time for this last Tuesday of 2025.
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Well, I have probably the shortest story I've ever had. All right, There was a bomb threat at the Mall, L.A. at the Gaming thing, the gaming center that's there, the main event. It's kind of like they have video games, and I don't know what's all in there, but the boy, you know, the kids have taken WL There and they've gone there plenty of times and the police went and checked it out and there was no bomb. And so now main event is back open again.
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Yeah, well, I hope they catch whoever did it.
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Yeah, there's no mention of. They just said they're obviously doing the investigation but they have no leads.
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Thank God. There wasn't exactly a real bomb and nobody got killed. So the only time I've ever been in that mall is to do the security stuff for the Lee Michaels and that's it. I don't go to malls, you know that so. Well, there you have it. Well, serial killers, nobody likes them and they come from all. Yeah, it used to be it's white males and stuff like that, but they come from all walks of life, all ages and everything else. Mostly they're olders because they got. Been getting away with it. Right. It's hard to catch a smart criminal. Well, we're going to upstate New York and the handyman. Oh, you know about this?
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No, but that would be like a.
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Well, he has already pled guilty to murdering two women and now they've. They have a fear that he is a serial killer because they just came back and charged him with a third murder.
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Wow.
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Richard Fox, who's 62, has been charged with second degree murder for the death of 32 year old Crystal Kurt Hoys after her decomposed body was found in a home he once owned in Niagara Falls. The former handyman is already behind bars for the murder of 40 year old Cassandra Watson in 2003 and 50 year old Marquita Mole in 2021. Now you think this guy quit killing for 18 years, right? No, no.
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I was just gonna ask you questions about.
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You have a ton of bodies on him. He's pled guilty to killing the two women and dumping their bodies off the path of the Chattaqua rails two trails near where he grew up. I don't know. I'm butchering this name. County sheriff James Quadroon said he now considers Fox to be a serial killer and notes that there are still about two or three homicides in York county that remain unsolved. He said, I do believe there are other victims and that he said that back when Fox, he. Fox got 40 years for the two that he already confessed to. He said, we're hopeful that Richard Fox will hopefully try to ease his conscience and then a little bit and give us some more information. Look at this winner. Prosecutors said Fox was in a relationship watched around 2003 when she was last seen alive in Buffalo. And her fate remained a mystery until a hiker found her body in 2021. Always happens. Sooner or later, they're going to turn up. Mo, meanwhile, had gone missing from the Broadway district of Buffalo that June. Her remains were found less than 20 yards away from Watson's body.
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Wow.
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Familiarity to him, right? Yeah, he's safe. So he, he feels he can dump him there. Authorities said investigators were able to identify moles remains within a few weeks of the discovery of the bodies. But it took until late 2024 for a lab that specializes in genealogical DNA training to identify the second set of remains as Watson's. Fox was arrested by the sheriff's office and the Buffalo Police Department in Niagara Falls last January. A couple months later, investigators searched a house in Niagara Falls where Fox once live and found the near skeletal remains of a woman wrapped in a plastic. In plastic and a tarp boarded up under the basement stairs.
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Goodness gracious.
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And then just live with them. Yeah, right. Every time you walk upstairs like I got you. So those remains were identified as Kurt Hoys through dental records and the. I believe it or not, because we started out somewhere. His criminal records show that Fox was previously convicted of child sex abuse. So if he had some time off as when he was in prison.
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Yeah.
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In 1993 he was convicted in a third degree rape of a 14 year old girl and was given a prison sentence of 18 months to three years. Rape, 14 year old girl, you get three years max. He was also convicted of first degree attempted rape and aggravated sexual abuse of a 42 year old Buffalo woman for which he was sentenced to 15 years in prison. And since the fox to 40 years to life. In September, Judge Suzanne Maxwell said he is evil. Yeah, no doubt. Right. She said, I can honestly say you should have never seen the light of day. Evil. That is the one word that sums up this case. Evil. And that he's been held at Niagara County Jail is scheduled to return to court on January 5th next week.
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That's disgusting.
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That's murder. The repeat offender, I mean he probably lived somewhere else and when he got out for a little bit and straight maybe found Jesus in jail, whatever. Repeat offender? Yeah. Serial offender.
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Yeah.
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Well, they don't have the death penalty and he certainly desires it.
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Goodness.
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What you got?
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I got Oakland. Oh, Family Matters.
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It's time for Family Matters.
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Gonna take us to Oakland, Florida.
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Oakland, Florida.
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And just days before Christmas, a man stabbed his pregnant wife to death.
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Nice.
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The man had a restraining order, or she had a restraining order against him, which obviously you always say it's just a paper. So he stabbed his pregnant wife to death in their home while their children were also present. Deputies from the Broward Sheriff's Office were dispatched to an apartment in Oakland park around 1am on Tuesday following a domestic disturbance report. And once inside the home, emergency responders found a woman suffering from stab wounds and she actually passed away before they could transport her. She died at the scene. The suspect was identified as 37 year old Mario Alejandro Ramirez. And he was found inside the home with what appeared to be self inflicted wounds. And when the deputies tried to like help him with the wounds, like put pressure, whatever, he, there was a struggle and he was fighting them off during that time. And they eventually arrested him and transported him to a hospital for treatment and he's been charged at this point with one count of second degree murder. Investigators confirmed that the woman was expecting and that she lived in the apartment with the couple's three children. And she also had, like I said at the beginning, a restraining order against Ramirez at the time of her death. There were many 911 calls made in regards to the incident and one of which was placed by the man. And in the call he told dispatchers that there was a domestic dispute had taken place in his home and their children were at home. And neighbors also reported overhearing loud noises coming from the apartment that led up to the stabbing. And they reported hearing things like furniture falling on the floor and stuff like that. That's what it sounded like, you know. So another woman happened to go by or some reason she was a witness and she said, I look and there's a body on the floor. I saw the body and she said they opened the door and when I walked back to go home, I saw a body lying on the floor. She obviously was traumatized. She kept repeating it. Photos of the crime scene show blood sprayed on a window. And there was a blue tarp used to cover up the woman's body. He was. The man was put under an immigration hold without bond after his initial court appearance on Friday because his immigration status is unclear. And also the motive of the attack is unclear. And that's that.
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Unreal.
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Yeah. Pregnant women went and did it in front of their kids.
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Yep. I mean, I'm sure the kids were last thought. Last thought in his mind when he's murdering another one, Right?
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Yeah.
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In the belly.
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Yeah.
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So. And he deserves. Where was that?
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Oakland, Florida.
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Yeah. Well, they got the death penalty, so now we're going to stick on the death penalty for a minute. I'm going out to Arizona. And normally when they do death penalty cases, the. They'll try like for one victim. And even though there's more like serial killers and like that, because it's hard to get a conviction on death penalty, period. But in Arizona, a jury did different, and they have sentenced a man to death for a series of murders that took place in the metro Phoenix air over three weeks in 2017. And this dude's been on trial for seven months. The crimes targeted random victims as well as the Finnish own mother and stepfather. So Cleophas Cooksey Jr. Who's 43, was found guilty at late September almost. Yeah, late September of eight counts of murder. So then they go in the penalty phase. Right. He. He was also convicted on charges kidnapping, armed robbery, and attempted sexual assault relating to the tax. In Phoenix, in nearby Glendale, Arizona, the jury sentenced Cooksey to death for six of the eight murders he was convicted of. That's. That's a lot.
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Yeah.
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However, they could not reach the decision on the punishment for his convictions and the killings of his mother and stepfather. Now, Maricopia county attorney Rachel Mitchell is now considering whether to seek a retrial on sentencing for the two murder convictions involving his mom and stepfather. I mean, how many times can you kill him? The victims included two men found dead in a parked car, a security guard shot while walking to his girlfriend's apartment, and a woman who was kidnapped and whose body was found in an alley after police say she was raped. Authorities were linked Cooksey to the murders through evidence discovered his mom's apartment after her murder. Investigators claim that this evidence includes a firearm using several of the murders, car keys belonging to another victim, and a necklace from one of the victims that Cooksie was wearing the time of the arrest. And you told him about this? Last week, but I'm about to tell them a lot more. Authorities, you know, of course, they don't have a motive for killing. Most serial killers don't even know why they do it. The Cooksey had aspired to be a musician, and it was familiar with some of the victims, but not others. He has consistently and still does proclaims this innocence. The first victims, Parker Smith, 21, and Andrew Rimillard, 27, were discovered on November 27, 2017, and they had been shot while sitting in the vehicle in the parking lot. Five days later, security guard Salem Richards, 31, was gunned down while walking to his girlfriend's apartment. In the next two weeks, Latoria Beckford, 29, and Christopher Cameron, 21, were killed in separate shootings at apartment complexes in Glendale and Maria Villanueva at apartments and complexes in Glendale and Maria Villa Nueva 43 was found half naked in a Phoenix alleyway. And the cops claim that Cooksie's DNA was found on her body. Finally, on December 17, 2017, Cooksey answered the door when officers responded to shots fire call at his mom's apartment. And when they got there, they looked and they saw a large amount of blood and they had cut his hand and he was the only one home. Police say when officers tried to detain him, Cooksey threatened to slit the officer's throat. Well, that's not going to work out for you, son. And they ended up detaining him. And that's when they went in and found Renee and his stepfather ever dead. Quotations Anyone who questions why we need the death penalty needs to look no further than this case. It takes a special kind of evil to prey upon vulnerable and needlessly take the lives of eight innocent people. Death is the only just punish for him and we will do everything in our power to see it through. That's what the DA said. Cooksuk's capture came after two other serial shooting incidents in metro Phoenix in 2015. Eleven shootings took place on Phoenix area freeways between late August and early September. Nobody was killed or sustained serious injuries and charges were dropped against the sole individual charge. The following case span Nearly a one year period ending in July 2016. And bus driver Aaron Juan Saucedo was arrested in April 2017 and charged with first degree murder and attacks that killed nine people.
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Wow.
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Just killing them out over there. Obviously the death penalty is not a deterrent. Prosecutors are pursuing the death penalty against Salcedo, whose trial has been scheduled to begin earlier this month. But he's. That's been delayed until December 2026. And of course he says he's innocent too. Oh yeah, but they got it in Arizona and they're gonna be rolling them out. And obviously you got the beast inside. The threat of death penalty doesn't stop it. But there are some people that don't murder because they get. They fear the ultimate punishment right there. People that walk around all day long, we just want to kill everybody. And they don't do it because they're scared. Yeah, I'm glad they're scared.
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I'm glad they're scared too.
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I am glad they're scared. Well, I'm taking us to Oklahoma.
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Oklahoma.
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And there's a man who bought himself a Glock for Christmas.
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Glock being the pistol?
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Yes. So an Oklahoma man who is doing target practice in his backyard on Christmas is believed to have shot and killed an elderly woman a few blocks away from his home.
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So he got a new pistol, didn't know how to use it, goes outside and play with it.
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Yeah.
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Yeah. And somebody died.
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Cody Wayne Adams, who is 33 years old, has been charged with first degree manslaughter in connection with the shooting. The victim was on a covered front porch with family members at a residence in Comanche when she was shot Thursday afternoon. She was holding a baby in her left arm while seated on a loveseat when she was struck in her upper right arm. And the bullet then entered her chest cavity?
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Yep. On Christmas Day.
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On Christmas Day and first responders were dispatched to the residence at approximately 3:15pm and she was pronounced dead soon after.
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She is Sandra Phelps.
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Okay. The sheriff's office did not publicly release the name or age of the victim. In their news release. They just called her elderly female at that time. So the family members told the responding deputy that they heard someone shooting five to seven rounds over several minutes north of the residence. The victim commented that someone got a new gun for Christmas. And shortly after she said, out, out.
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Yep.
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A law enforcement investigating the shooting canvassed several residences to the north of the deadly shooting and found that all but one, which was Adams, he. All of them had suitable shooting backdrops except for the one that was, you know, arrested in this. Deputies also received information that Adams had received a Glock 45 for Christmas and that his neighbors had heard him shooting, and he shot around 20 rounds. Adams told deputies who responded to his home that he said that he had been shooting his Glock.45 that he recently bought himself for Christmas at a Red Bull can in his backyard.
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Yeah.
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And when it.
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So he. I guess he knows now a.45 caliber bullet, a red Bull can, is not going to stop it, even if he hit it, which I doubt it's going to go straight through it and continue to go until it finds something suitable stop it. Which would be Ms. Phelps, because they said the bullet entered under Ms. Phelps's right arm and traveled into her chest. It's horrible, right?
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Yeah.
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Cool.
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So when a deputy said he suspected the shooting may have caused the victim's death, Adams became visibly upset and began to cry. And the deputy also told him that he was shooting towards the ground in his backyard, that there was nothing behind his property to stop any bullets from traveling beyond his property and hurting someone. So Adam's home is actually located about 0.3 miles away from the residence where the woman was shot. They read him as Miranda rights, and he acknowledged that he was shooting south of his residence on Thursday. He had approximately eight to 10 rounds. So deputies arrested Adams on Thursday evening for first degree manslaughter after consulting with the local district attorney's office. And the charging document says that he caused the woman's death by engaging in conduct with a firearm that created a situation of unreasonable risk and probability of death or great bodily harm to another person and demonstrated a conscious disregard for the safety of others. And he's being held on a hundred thousand dollar.
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And the just gun safety. Man, if you get a new firearm and you've never seen it, and I had all my nieces and I'd hear Thanksgiving and teaching them how to shoot and gun safety and you know, what you're shooting at, what's behind it, the whole nine yards. And like one of my buddies who's never hunted much called me and said, you ever killed two deer with one shot? I said, no. And he said, well, you've been hunting, you know, almost 50 years.
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How did that happen?
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I said, because I know I could have done it a million times, but I'm not trying. I'll wait until they separate because I know the bullet's gonna go through. Yeah, but it's not trained and did. And certainly that is a fitting charge. It's his lack of care that caused her to die. But certainly he didn't intend to shoot that old lady.
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Right, right, right.
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Well, that's the interesting story and evidently it's getting a lot of national news because you had it and then they had just updated it. Today was obvious while I was coming, while I was reading it, while you were doing. So let's give you a twofer. It's time for worldwide crime, Foreign. Matters. Going to New Zealand. Okay, I know somebody that doesn't like New Zealand.
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Yeah, I do too.
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Yeah, right, doc. So going to New Zealand, they had a lady named Hyung Lee and she was the mom of two was who was convicted of killing her two daughters and stuffing their bodies in suitcases. Well, she's finally been sentenced to life in prison in 2018. Lee Reeling from the death of her husband in the year before. Lee, who was reeling from the death of her husband. That's what there was. Not mine. The year before. Gave her daughters juiced, laced with medication. After the girls died, she put their bodies in suitcases. She then put those suitcases and other personal items in a storage facility before moving back to South Korea. Come on man, get the out of here. The only reason anyone found out about the girl's death is because the pavement lapsed on the storage unit.
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You know, can you imagine being on storage?
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Storage Wars, Storage wars, which I used to watch all that in September, actually, I want to do that. Well, they, that happened and they found her. But September 2025, Lee was found guilty of murdering 8 year old Uno Joe and 6 year old Mina Joe. In November, she was sentenced to life in prison. That's according to the BBC. She must serve 17 years before being eligible for parole. During the trial, Judge Jeffrey Benning said at least mental health played a part in the case, but her actions were calculated. Yes. You know, if you just sit there and cover yourself in and Wait for the cops to come. It's one thing you put them in suitcases and run a storage unit. Yeah. I mean, everybody's got some mental health problems. Over the trials two weeks, Lee's lawyers tried to argue that her mental health deteriorated after the death of her husband and Joe, who died from cancer in 2017. She believed that she and her daughters were better off dead than living without him. She got to kill herself. Well, they said Lee tried to kill herself and the girls by mixing the antidepressant Nortrip Lean into juice. She got the doses wrong, however, and only the girls died. Yeah, right. Prosecutor called the mom's decision a selfish act to free herself from the burden of parenting alone. Of course, like they do in all these cases. A psychiatric assessment of Lee was done and was determined. She was dealing with atypical depression and prolonged grief at the time of the killings. Well, what about after the killings? Yeah, she should be really depressed. Yeah. As a result, the judge ordered that she be treated as a special patient under the Criminal Procedure Mentally Impaired Persons Act. And he said, you relied heavily on him during your marriage. You could not cope when he became seriously unwell, and perhaps you cannot bear to have the children around you as a constant minor. Your former happy life, which had been cruelly taken from you. I'm not going to comment. Shunjali, the woman's mother, told the court that after Joe's death, her daughter had no will to live and stopped eating again. Two dead babies in a suitcase in a store shed. The mom says, I told her, if you really want to follow your husband, go by yourself and I'll take the kids. She shared that she had been introduced to a counselor and expressed regret for not making her daughter go. She said, I keep thinking that if I had taken her at the time, this tragedy might have been prevented. Well, mom, it's not your fault. She also described how horrible it was to hear about what happened to her granddaughters. It felt like a pain that cut through my bones or someone was gouging out my chest. Despite the pain, she did say that she hoped her daughter would eventually be released on parole. Well, Jimmy C. Woop. Joe, who's Lee's brother in law, also shared a statement during sinning. Sensing expressing his own pain at losing his nieces, he said, this situation is something I would expect to read about in a novel or watch a TV series. I. I never imagined such a profound tragedy would ever befall our family. He shared that he never told his mother, the girl's paternal grandmother, that they're dead. Joe believes they tell him that if he tells her, it might kill her.
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Yeah, right. Yeah.
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He said it was my late brother's will that I protect them. This is an ongoing sentence from which I can never be paroled. I don't know about that, New Zealand judge. I mean, 17 years. Our friend has to deal long with that in a child custody case. 18 years.
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Yeah.
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And her kids murder her babies. Yeah, the. But I mean. And then you move South Korea. Oh my God. I don't get it. I'm gonna leave it alone. I know people suffer from mental illness and I get that. But. Yeah, I think it should be. I mean, you killed. Allegedly you try to kill yourself, but you damn sure killed your kids and put them in suitcases and put them in a storage.
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Yeah.
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And look, we lost your daddy from cancer. I lost tons of friends from cancer. You know, Lost my daddy this year from a horrible disease and not killing our kids. No. All right.
C
No. That's unfathomable.
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But you got. It's time for worldwide crime. It's time for effed up professionals.
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Taking us to Japan.
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Japan.
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And there is a man that has been arrested after stabbing eight people and injuring seven others with what was believed to be bleach at a rubber factory in central Japan on Friday. So eight people were taken to hospitals after being stabbed by the man with a knife at the Yokohama Rubber Company in the city of Mishima, which is west of Tokyo. The Fujisan Nanto Fire Department reported to the scene and they told the Associated Press that five of the people who were stabbed were in serious condition, but the other details were not available. Shizuku Preferential police said the attacker was a 38 year old man and he was arrested for attempted murder at the factory, but they did not give further details. And then there's the seven others who were injured by the bleach thrown at them during the attack. But no other details are known at this time.
A
That's crazy.
C
I know.
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Bleach, chlorine smell the bleach. And I do like it. And I bet they really don't like it over there.
C
Right?
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Right. How about a. All right, we'll see if you can follow this story.
C
Okay. All right, I'm in.
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And then tell you about the geniuses in the world going to Oklahoma. Around 9pm Police officers received reports of a stolen truck driving around the area of the 11300 E. Skelly Dr.they quickly spotted the Ford F150 that was reported stolen from Arkansas in a Driveway by East 15th Place well, no one was home at the time. So what do you do? You're not going to leave a stolen vehicle. They called for a tow truck and they came and hauled the F150 away. And they notified the real owner of the truck that, you know, they recovered it. Right. The ncic. When your truck gets stolen, the Internet computer gets stopped or vehicle anywhere in the United States, they run, it comes back stolen and the rest is the rest of the. So what? But the story doesn't end. Around 12pm, police officers received a call from a 32 year old man named Brandon Hernandez. He lives where the stolen F150 was located and want to file a report because his truck was stolen.
C
Vehicle.
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His truck was stolen. Listen, this dumbass. According to local Fox 23, Hernandez explained to the cops that he purchased the truck the night before in Fayetteville, Arkansas. And he said, hey, I got a really good deal.
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Only paid $400 for it.
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Then he continued to overshare that he was planning to use the money to bail his girlfriend out of jail, but he bought the F150 instead.
C
Oh, my gosh.
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Don't worry. He claims he was going to return to Arkansas to get her soon.
C
Oh.
A
But officers, it doesn't end there. Officers found the wallet, tools and other owners belonging to the right. Other belongings belonging to the rightful owner in the cab. And Mr. Hernandez was quickly arrested and booked into the Tulsa County Jail for possession of a stolen vehicle. That's crazy, bro. That's so funny. Look, hey, sin. When you go to jail, and I know you're going to jail, pretty soon the. I'm going to stop on the way. I mean, Arkansas is a long way from Oklahoma and I'm going start. Stop in Arkansas, probably close to the jail and buy. Buy a $400 truck.
C
Okay. And then take it home.
A
Yeah.
C
Then drive it.
A
Drive all the way back to Oklahoma to the house and be. And then go everywhere, wherever he went because he wasn't home.
C
Yeah.
A
When the cops came and towed it.
C
Yeah. But you'll come and get me soon, right?
A
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. That. That's what he told the press and the cops. Don't worry, I'm gonna go. I was gonna go get her soon.
C
I know I've said this story several times, but I just find it's not funny, but funny. In Laredo, there was a border patrolman whose vehicle was stolen and he was, you know, when you could go into Nueva Laredo and actually enjoy yourself at the Cad and all the fun things and he, you know, of course, his truck was stolen in Laredo, Texas. He reports it stolen. He goes across the border, goes the Cadillac. Walking out of the Cadillac, sees a truck that looks just like his, has his keys on him still, because back then, we all had all the keys. You know, the keys to the truck, your house, all that. He goes into that, goes to the truck, puts his key in, unlocks the door and said, I'm driving this thing home. A few days later, he gets a letter in the mail from someone saying, hey, I left such and such in the glove compartment of the truck. I think it was a pistol. Can you please make, you know, send it to this address?
A
It takes all kinds of to make the world go around. And there's smart criminals and then there's dumb ones like this who. Whatever. I mean, you know, you get a $400 truck. Yeah, right. Yeah, whatever. All right, that's it. Done. I'm done for Tuesdays in 2025.
C
Not doing another Tuesday this year.
A
Quit doing Tuesdays this year. You'll never get another one.
C
Nope. Done.
A
We love and appreciate each and every one of y', all, and tomorrow is New Year's Eve, the last day of this year. Right? And I'm Woody Overton.
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I'm Cindy Overton.
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Serial Killers, Holiday Tragedies, Death Row & Dumb Criminals
Hosts: Woody Overton & Cindy Overton
In this episode, Woody and Cindy Overton take listeners through a riveting set of true crime stories from recent headlines. The conversation ranges from the dangerous world of serial killers and holiday tragedies, to infamous cases on death row, and dumb criminals whose tales add a darkly comedic touch. Consistent with the show’s signature style, Woody shares insights from his own law enforcement experience, while Cindy brings a grounded perspective and empathetic analysis. The crime stories span the US and the globe—covering everything from upstate New York serial killings to a chilling double-murder conviction in New Zealand. Throughout, the hosts highlight the gravity and sometimes absurdity of real-life crime, delivering memorable commentary and affecting anecdotes for the final episode of 2025.
Timestamps: 03:13 – 05:40
"As a professional, I can tell you that's crocky." (04:22, Woody)
Timestamps: 05:48 – 06:27
Timestamps: 06:28 – 11:59
"I can honestly say you should have never seen the light of day. Evil. That is the one word that sums up this case. Evil." (11:19, quoting Judge Maxwell)
Timestamps: 12:08 – 15:36
“I’m sure the kids were last thought in his mind when he’s murdering another one, right? In the belly.” (15:42–15:53, Woody)
Timestamps: 15:59 – 22:01
"Anyone who questions why we need the death penalty needs to look no further than this case. It takes a special kind of evil to prey upon vulnerable and needlessly take the lives of eight innocent people. Death is the only just punishment for him..." (20:14, quoting DA)
Timestamps: 29:37 – 34:44
“If you get a new firearm and you’ve never seen it...teach them how to shoot and gun safety and you know, what you're shooting at, what's behind it, the whole nine yards.” (33:51–34:23, Woody)
Timestamps: 34:46 – 41:24
“This situation is something I would expect to read about in a novel or watch a TV series... I never imagined such a profound tragedy would ever befall our family.” (39:52, quoting Joe)
Timestamps: 41:50 – 43:02
Timestamps: 43:33 – 46:31
Woody and Cindy maintain their signature blend of gripping storytelling, wry humor, and empathic commentary. The tone smoothly transitions from lighthearted banter to somber reflection, emphasizing the gravity of violent crime while allowing moments of comic relief—especially when discussing criminals outwitted by their own foolishness.
The episode closes with a thank you to listeners and a nod to the coming new year.
“We love and appreciate each and every one of y’all... and tomorrow is New Year’s Eve, the last day of this year.” (48:05, Woody Overton)
True to Real Life Real Crime’s style, this episode offers both emotional depth and darkly comedic takes, making it both informative and engaging for true crime fans and newcomers alike.