Real Life Real Crime — "True Crime Time For December 4, 2025: Coffee Chaos, Bear Spray Attacks & Cold Case Justice"

Hosts: Woody Overton & Cindy Overton
Date: December 4, 2025

Episode Overview

This episode of "True Crime Time For" dives into bizarre, tragic, and at times darkly humorous real crime stories curated and discussed by Woody and Cindy Overton. From an explosive coffee-leash dispute in Florida, to a bear spray attack on New Orleans police, to heartbreakingly grim updates in cold cases and abuse investigations, Woody and Cindy unpack an array of cases with their signature blend of law enforcement insight, empathy, and unmistakable Southern candor.

Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Coffee Chaos in Florida

[04:37 - 07:27]

• Story: In Volusia County, FL, a dog-leash dispute leads to a 54-year-old woman, Nina Jaskalainen, throwing coffee on a mother, her baby, and the family dog.
  • The altercation began when Jaskalainen yelled at the mother for not leashing her dog during a walk.
  • Jaskalainen first splashed coffee on the dog, citing past harm to her own pet, then doused the mother and baby.
  • Physical evidence and cellphone video led to Jaskalainen's arrest on two counts of battery.
• Quote:
  • “She threw coffee on the dog and said her dog had been killed before... Then threw the rest on the mother and baby...” — Cindy [05:16]
• Woody and Cindy reflect on leash laws’ variations and the escalation of everyday disputes.

2. Bear Spray Attack on Police

[07:46 - 10:12]

• Story: In New Orleans, a woman assaulted several people and police officers with bear spray during an event on November 23.
  • Suspect: Young African American woman with distinctive tattoos, described as between 20 and 25 years old and clearly visible in photos.
  • The attack left officers temporarily blinded; suspect fled the scene.
• Quote:
  • “Ran like a little bitch in an unknown direction. I guess because they couldn’t see...” — Woody [08:54]
• Commentary: Hosts joke about carrying bear spray in Louisiana and the likelihood of the suspect being caught thanks to her tattoos and online sleuthing.

3. Pet Sitter Killed by Dogs

[10:21 - 11:18]

• Story: In Tyler, Texas, 23-year-old Madison Riley Hull is killed by three pit bulls she was pet sitting.
  • Responding deputy kills one attacking dog to retrieve Hull’s body; other dogs flee.
• Quote:
  • “That’s a bad way to go.” — Woody [11:18]
• Hosts note the increasing frequency and horror of fatal animal attacks.

4. Neglected Children & Dogs Living in Car: Washington State

[11:24 - 15:04]

• Story: Police in Vancouver, WA, find five neglected kids (ages 5–13) and three abused dogs living in a trashed, drug-filled car.
  • Adults arrested: Natalie Gibran, Zakara Edwards, and Corleone Lewis, facing multiple child endangerment and drug charges.
  • Animal control finds two starved dogs, a third so sick it requires euthanasia; kids removed to CPS.
• Quotes:
  • “That age... living in a car with three dogs and hey, they got money for fentanyl and meth.” — Woody [15:07]
• Cindy points to drug use as a key factor distinguishing tragic struggles from outright abuse.

5. Cold Case Breakthrough: Justice for Nancy Galvani

[15:28 - 29:01]

• Story: After 43 years, Patrick Galvani (81) is arrested for the 1982 murder of his estranged wife, Nancy, found bound in a sleeping bag in San Francisco Bay.
  • Nancy was killed during a bitter custody battle; evidence only recently became strong enough for arrest, aided by daughter Allison's decades-long campaign.
• Quotes:
  • “There’s always hope… The daughter pushed for justice for all these years.” — Cindy [16:47, 26:43]
  • “Never give up, never surrender. Just proves anyone can be brought down.” — Woody [28:42]
• Notable Moments:
  • Allison Galvani’s fierce persistence highlighted as pivotal to cracking the case after decades.

6. Family Matters: Abuse, Death Penalty & Child Neglect

[29:01 - 36:27]

• Pennsylvania: Caregivers Courtney Utze and Sarah Shipley face possible death penalty for the murder and torture of nine-year-old Renesmee Utsi.
  • Emaciated siblings, dental torture, and horrific neglect recounted.
  • State’s moratorium on death penalty complicates the legal outcome.
• Texas: Rick Artis charged with the murder of a nine-month-old girl in San Antonio; investigation reveals he previously had a similar accusation in 2018.
  • Autopsy shows signs of blunt head trauma, false names, and past charges expose a concerning pattern.
• Quote:
  • “Some people get out and do really well. But it seems more and more…” — Cindy [36:35]
• Woody’s contempt for abusers of children and vulnerable people is strongly voiced throughout.

7. Self-Defense in the Workplace: 7-Eleven Clerk Fired for Surviving

[36:39 - 47:44]

• Story: Stephanie Dillard, Oklahoma 7-Eleven clerk working alone at night, shoots an attacking customer (attempting to pay with counterfeit money and then attacking her) in self-defense, but is fired for violating company gun policy.
• Quote:
  • “I felt like I was put into a corner between choosing my job and my life. I’m always gonna choose my life.” — Stephanie Dillard via Woody [38:21]
  • “Rather be tried by 12 than carried by 6… Rather be fired than dead.” — Woody [39:30]
• Insight: A GoFundMe is started for Dillard, local authorities vindicate her actions, and Woody decries the lack of protection provided to nightshift workers.

8. Kidnapping & Murder of Realtor: Minnesota Case and The Justice Process

[48:13 - 52:34]

• Story: Lyndon Wiggins found guilty (again) of orchestrating the kidnapping and murder of real estate agent Monique Bao, in retaliation against her boyfriend, a local rapper.
  • After a retrial over erroneous jury instructions, he seeks a third.
• Quote:
  • “You send a 13-page motion to get a new trial right before sentencing... Who does that?” — Cindy quoting victim’s mother [52:26]
• Commentary:
  • Highlights risks faced by real estate workers and the protracted nature of the appeals process.

9. Fraud at Realtor Association: Sheriff Grady Judd’s Takedown

[53:12 - 56:18]

• Story: In Polk County, FL, Jennifer Garlula Merz, CEO of a local Realtor association, is arrested for embezzling over $81,000.
  • Discovery sparked by new president RJ Webb, investigation aided by the colorful Sheriff Grady Judd.
• Quotes:
  • “She’s a thief, she’s a con, and she’s a crook.” — Sheriff Grady Judd [55:16]
• Woody and Cindy point out the vulnerability of small organizations to insider theft, and praise Sheriff Judd's style and results.

10. Ongoing Advocacy & Justice for Cold Cases

[56:47 - 57:31]

• Woody re-emphasizes efforts for cold case justice, referencing hashtag campaigns like #JusticeForBradley and #JusticeForMsBarbaraBlunt.
• Strong statement against those they suspect in cold cases, unafraid to call out individuals even under threat of legal action.

Notable Quotes & Moments

| Timestamp | Speaker | Quote/Context | |-----------|-------------|-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------| | 05:16 | Cindy | “She threw coffee on the dog and said her dog had been killed before...” | | 08:54 | Woody | “Ran like a little bitch in an unknown direction. I guess because they couldn’t see.” | | 11:18 | Woody | “That’s a bad way to go.” (referring to pet sitter fatality) | | 15:07 | Woody | “That age... living in a car with three dogs and hey, they got money for fentanyl...” | | 16:47 | Cindy | “There’s always hope…” (on cold cases being solved) | | 26:43 | Cindy | “Never give up. The daughter... tried to push for justice for the murder of her mother.”| | 28:42 | Woody | “Never give up, never surrender.” (on cold case arrests) | | 38:21 | Stephanie D | “I felt like I was put into a corner..." (via Woody retelling her statement) | | 39:30 | Woody | “Rather be tried by 12 than carried by 6… Rather be fired than dead.” | | 55:16 | Sheriff Judd| “She’s a thief, she’s a con, and she’s a crook.” |

Tonal Highlights

• Blunt and candid: Woody’s “no BS” language (“little bitch,” “piece of shit”) underscores his direct approach.
• Empathetic: Cindy’s reflections, especially on victims and cold case advocates, ground the conversation in compassion.
• Dry humor: Sprinkled throughout, especially in comments on criminal stupidity and corporate policies.
• Righteous anger: Against abusers, fraudsters, and those who evade justice.

Episode Timeline (Main Segments)

• [03:41] – Show proper begins, host welcome and preview
• [04:37 – 07:27] – Coffee chaos incident
• [07:46 – 10:12] – Bear spray attack in New Orleans
• [10:21 – 11:18] – Pet sitter killed in Texas
• [11:24 – 15:04] – Neglected children and dogs in WA
• [15:28 – 29:01] – Cold case breakthrough (Nancy Galvani)
• [29:01 – 36:27] – Child murders and abuse (Pennsylvania, Texas)
• [36:39 – 47:44] – 7-Eleven clerk self-defense firing
• [48:13 – 52:34] – Realtor kidnapping murder, legal process
• [53:12 – 56:18] – Realtor association fraud and Sheriff Grady Judd
• [56:47 – 57:31] – Hashtag advocacy and cold case justice
• [57:34 – 58:04] – Closing remarks, personal notes

Final Thoughts

Woody and Cindy deliver another densely packed, high-energy episode blending shocking headlines, relentless truth-telling, and advocacy for victims. Their law enforcement experience, empathy, and community spirit distinguish their coverage, while their plain-spoken style and humor keep things engaging even amid the darkest stories. This episode is both a grim reminder of the world’s dangers and a testament to the power of perseverance in seeking justice.

For more resources or to submit tips on ongoing cases, listeners are encouraged to use the hashtags or contact numbers mentioned in the episode.