True Crime Time For February 23, 2026 | Teresita Basa, Surfing Legend Death & Serial Crime

Summary

Real Life Real Crime: True Crime Time for February 23, 2026

Episode Title: Teresita Basa, Surfing Legend Death & Serial Crime
Hosts: Woody Overton & Cindy Overton (and third co-host/guest)
Release Date: February 23, 2026

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Overview

In this lively installment of “True Crime Time For,” Woody and Cindy Overton (joined by a third co-host) serve up an energetic, sometimes darkly humorous review of memorable crimes and current cases, all while weaving in Woody’s deep knowledge from years of real-life policing. The episode covers chilling murders (including Teresita Basa’s infamous case and recent homicides), a slew of incompetent or “dumb criminals,” an international surf legend’s tragic end, and even the emergence of a possible serial cat killer. Throughout, advocacy for cold cases and justice for victims remains central.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Cold Cases & Advocacy Work

• Teresita Basa Case (01:50)
  • Woody recounts the notorious 1977 Chicago murder of Teresita Basa. The case grew infamous because a co-worker’s wife claimed to be channeling Basa’s ghost, eventually leading to Alan Showery’s arrest and confession.
  • Quote: “Police didn’t have any leads for five months until a coworker of Basa’s claimed his wife was channeling the ghost of Basa and accused Alan Showery of the murder... Showery pled guilty and was sentenced to 14 years in prison.” —Woody Overton (01:50)
  • Takeaway: Even unconventional “tips” can break a cold case.
• #JusticeFor Campaign Updates (02:58)
  • Woody updates listeners on ongoing advocacy for cold cases (e.g., Bradley, AO, Haley), urging listeners to keep submitting tips or donating for forensic work.
  • Quote: “Never give up, never surrender. People keep calling in your tips.” —Woody Overton (03:34)
  • Fundraising efforts for scientific testing in the Haley case are ongoing (“We need $10,000... already at $6,540” (03:41)), revealing perseverance’s role in slow-moving cases.

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2. Case Recaps & True Crime Highlights

South Carolina Double Murder (05:38)

• Charles Saunders: Recently sentenced to life for murdering Alicia Dykes and Bernard Lyles in front of children during a domestic dispute; arrested at a Waffle House shortly after.
  • Quote: “Saunders stepped into the doorway, pulled a handgun... and opened fire... He just killed somebody, changed shirts, went to Waffle House. I’m gonna hang out here, have some coffee.” —Cindy Overton/Woody Overton (07:33, 08:29)
• Reflects the tragic intersection of family dysfunction, firearms, and the “routine” nature of senseless violence.

Dumb Criminals & “Effed Up Professionals” (08:47)

• Miami Landscaping Van Burglar: Dean Young, intent on theft, got locked in a van and panicked—then concocted a story about running from a dog.
  • Memorable, darkly comedic narration of the event.
  • Quote: “He climbs in the van, got locked in, and guess what? He panicked... ‘Help me, help me!’” —Woody Overton (10:00)
  • Discussion veers into classic “dumb criminal” territory—“We really need a dumbass criminal section for real.” (09:09)

Ohio Parolee Murders Neighbor (14:18)

• Brian J. Los: Just 18 months out after serving time for a brutal attack on his sister, Los is now accused of killing a neighbor.
  • “Nice. Let him out, they kill again.” —Woody Overton (15:35)
  • Commentary reflects skepticism about rehabilitation for violent offenders.

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3. Notorious & Strange Crimes

Dirty Dining Scam in Australia (21:07)

• A father plucks armpit hair, plants it in food at a luxury steakhouse to avoid the bill—caught on CCTV; similar scams reported elsewhere.
  • Quote: “The father was plucking armpit hair and putting it in his food before he complained.” —Woody Overton (22:51); “How embarrassing is that?” —Cindy Overton (22:21)
  • Hosts riff on the lesson for restaurant security, and parenting!

Kentucky Teen Charged with Double Homicide (26:24)

• A 17-year-old boy (unnamed) charged with murdering a woman and her 12-year-old son. Arrest follows police pursuit in Allen County; details and motive unclear, case ongoing.

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4. Worldwide & Unusual Crimes

Surfing Legend’s Murder in Costa Rica (32:00)

• Kurt Van Dyke: Celebrated California surfer and hotelier, 66, murdered during a violent robbery in Puerto Viejo, Costa Rica, involving a home invasion and his younger girlfriend.
  • Quote: “He’s been found dead under his bed with a sheet over his head and a knife next to him.” —Woody Overton (33:01)
  • Insight into how even legendary or local figures can fall victim to random violence.
• Hosts reminisce on their own “almost surfing” stories, adding signature humor.

Serial Cat Killer in California (42:54)

• Multiple cats found shot or dead in a mobile home park; security footage captured the suspect, prompting fears in the community.
  • Quote: “A serial cat killer maybe on the loose after two more cats were found dead... doorbell video captured moments after the shooting shows a person... placing [a cat] into a plastic bag.” —Woody Overton (42:54, 44:25)
  • Speculation that a teenager with a pellet gun may be behind it, nod to the pattern of serial killers starting with animals.

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5. Repeat & Sex Offenders

Florida Career Criminal Exposes Himself (37:19)

• Richard Lamar Brown Jr.: Arrested for indecent exposure (29 past convictions), found masturbating behind a Gainesville business.
  • Quote: “He didn’t forget how to masturbate in public.” —Co-host (39:19)
  • Discussion on the chronic failure of the system to deter or treat compulsive/public offenders through repeated, short incarcerations.

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6. Recent Murder Retrial & Justice Outcome

Texas IHOP Manager Murder Case (48:05)

• Tariq Alkayali: After a successful appeal (judge’s jury instruction error), receives an even longer sentence—40 years, 17 more than the first trial—for murdering his new wife by asphyxiating her after only three days of marriage.
  • Quote: “I love the fact that he appealed it... and that motherfucker got 17 more years.” —Woody Overton (55:02)
  • Conversation highlights the rarity of appeals actually “backfiring,” with strong commentary against so-called “sudden passion” defenses in domestic homicides.

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Timestamped Memorable Moments & Quotes

• [01:50] Woody recounts the “ghost solves murder” angle in Teresita Basa’s case.
• [03:34] “Never give up...” theme song for cold case perseverance.
• [07:33-08:29] The absurdity of murderers hiding at Waffle House, “Bye bye, no more Waffle House for you, idiot.”
• [10:00-12:16] Miami burglar’s panic: “Help me! ...I can’t breathe!” hosts joke about “dumbass” criminals.
• [22:51] Armpit hair scam at luxury restaurant: “The father was apparently plucking armpit hair and putting it on his food before he complained.”
• [33:01] Surfing legend’s murder: “Found dead under his bed with a sheet over his head…”
• [39:19] “He didn’t forget how to masturbate in public.” —On indecent exposure repeat-offender.
• [48:05] Tale of the failed murder conviction appeal that only increased the killer’s sentence: “I love the fact that he appealed it... got a new trial, cost taxpayers all that money. And that motherfucker got 17 more years.”

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Overall Tone & Structure

• The hosts maintain a conversational, occasionally irreverent and darkly comic tone, alternating empathy for victims with ridicule for criminals.
• Regular segments: Updates on advocacy cases, themed news (e.g., “Effed Up Professionals,” “Family Matters,” “Worldwide Crime”), and open calls for listener submissions about dumb criminals or family crime.
• Emphasis is on community involvement in true crime—whether advocating for justice or simply appreciating the dark absurdity of criminal behavior.

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Useful for Listeners Who Haven’t Heard the Episode?

Absolutely. This summary conveys both the factual crime coverage, ongoing advocacy, and the unique flavor of Woody and Cindy’s banter—offering a rich, timestamped guide through all the most impactful cases and moments, whether you listen for the true crime insights or the personality.

Transcript

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[Woody Overton]

Hello, everybody and welcome to this episode of true crime time for Monday, February 23rd, 2026. And I'm Woody Overton.

[Cindy Overton]

I'm Cindy Overton.

[Woody Overton]

We almost made it every day last week together in the studio.

[Co-host (possibly a third host or guest)]

I know, but we're gonna do it this week.

[Woody Overton]

How about that?

[Cindy Overton]

That sounds good.

[Woody Overton]

Bring love. All the crime. True crime time stuff you can handle the good, bad and indifferent, right? Might make you cry, might make you laugh, mad, sad. Full range of emotions here.

[Co-host (possibly a third host or guest)]

That's what you get for listening to true crime time for all right.

[Woody Overton]

On this day, February 23rd, in 1979, when I was a young boy playing for my star wars action figures, Alan Showery pled guilty to the murder of Teresita Basa, who was murdered two years earlier. Basa was found by firefighters who responded to a fire at her home. She was nude under a mattress and had a knife in her chest. Police didn't have any leads for five months until a co worker of Vasa's claimed his wife was channeling the ghost of Vasa and accused Allen Showery of the murder. Shortly after being confronted by police, Showery pled guilty and was sentenced to 14 years in prison.

[Cindy Overton]

So you never give up and sometimes you listen to those woo woos.

[Woody Overton]

Yeah, that's called if it's getting cold. And we'll take anything, right?

[Cindy Overton]

Yeah.

[Woody Overton]

And so you got to do that Investigations, you never know where they're going to Go and never know what's going to happen. Come through and happen.

[Co-host (possibly a third host or guest)]

And I got. I got some crazy ones like that, but I won't talk about them.

[Woody Overton]

But hashtag justice for Bradley. Hashtag just for AO never giving up. People keep calling in your tips. 313rlrc tip hashtag just from Sparber Blunt. Same same thing. And you just never know when these cases are going to break. The I can tell you. I can't tell you what I can't tell you, but I can tell you what I can tell you, which is I know they well, at least Bradley's

[Co-host (possibly a third host or guest)]

case is being worked.

[Woody Overton]

They are standing firm on the fact

[Co-host (possibly a third host or guest)]

that Austin's was a overdose, which. Whatever.

[Woody Overton]

And we're going to. We're continuing to work on that one also. So never give up, never surrender.

[Co-host (possibly a third host or guest)]

You never know what's going to happen.

[Woody Overton]

Now. Hashtag just for Haley and the time we're recording this. The we need $10,000, y'.

[Cindy Overton]

All.

[Woody Overton]

The at this time, the we're at 6,540 and a lot of work's already been done. They still need to do a lot more and they miss Barbara Johnson is handling the money and it goes directly to Scott Roeder and the evidence room. And they've already proven it. We've proven that it is a definitely not. Not a suicide.

[Co-host (possibly a third host or guest)]

So it was just her and Brooks there, according to witnesses in Brook's statement.

[Woody Overton]

So we know that he did it, but we need to complete the scientific testing and it takes money. So if y' all can go to gofundme under justice for Haley or any

[Co-host (possibly a third host or guest)]

or

[Woody Overton]

social media or anywhere and donate anything you can. If you can't donate, please share the the GoFundMe so we can get this 10,000 and get this case presented to the D.A.

[Cindy Overton]

yes, please.

[Woody Overton]

Right. Never give up, never surrender. That being said, let's get on some true crime time for Monday. It's getting cold again. South Louisiana, you know, it was 80 degrees, y'. All. This like on Friday. 80 degrees. Grass is growing. Look, you know, got to cut the yard again and everything else. And now it's going to be back

[Co-host (possibly a third host or guest)]

in the 30s and the wind is blowing like crazy. Yep. Yeah, so that.

[Woody Overton]

But that's how it happens. They have big snowstorms up north, so wherever you are, I hope you stay more.

[Cindy Overton]

Well, I mean, to go on top of what you said about it being so warm, W found the little snake in the pool yesterday when he was cleaning it out. So that's how warm it got. And now it's we're sitting here with my sitcoin already. We're going to go to South Carolina.

[Woody Overton]

South Carolina.

[Cindy Overton]

And this actually occurred in home of

[Co-host (possibly a third host or guest)]

Fort Jackson and Tank Hill. Those of you in the military know about that

[Cindy Overton]

2024.

[Co-host (possibly a third host or guest)]

All right.

[Cindy Overton]

So it all began as an argument inside a South Carolina apartment complex. And that argument ended in gunfire, and it left two people dead in an arrest hours later at a Waffle House. Charles Saunders, who was 50 years old, originally of New York, will now spend the rest of his life in prison for fatally shooting Alicia Dykes and Bernard Alexander Lyles in front of children at the Walsh Drive apartments in Hardeeville. And prosecutors announced that last Thursday. Prosecutors said Saunders and the two victims had been arguing in the days leading up to the shooting on June 18th of 2024. Saunders and Dykes had been friends years earlier in New York, and Dykes later introduced Saunders to his sister, with whom he had a son. Saunders had traveled to South Carolina after learning his son had a child and had been staying with Dykes at the time of the shooting. Shortly after noon on the day of the shooting, Hardeeville police responded to the apartment complex where witnesses told investigators that Saunders and the two victims had been arguing. And the confrontation escalated, and Dykes and Lyles attempted to retreat inside the apartment. But prosecutors said Saunders stepped into the doorway, pulled a handgun from his waistband and opened fire.

[Co-host (possibly a third host or guest)]

Nice.

[Cindy Overton]

But three children were inside the apartment at the time of the shooting, and one child ran to a nearby relatives to get help. And Dykes was pronounced dead at the scene. Lyle was transported to the Coastal Carolina hospital where he later died. Saunders fled and investigators later found him. Well, they later recovered a shirt he discarded in the trash on Main street. And forensic testing revealed gunshot residue on the clothing. Several hours after the shooting, Saunders was arrested at the Waffle House.

[Co-host (possibly a third host or guest)]

That's crazy.

[Cindy Overton]

And then on Thursday, Saunders was found guilty of two counts of murder and two counts of possession of a weapon during the commission of a violent crime. And he was sentenced to life in prison.

[Woody Overton]

Bye bye. No more Waffle House for you, idiot.

[Co-host (possibly a third host or guest)]

And all kinds make the world go around, right?

[Cindy Overton]

He just killed somebody, changed shirts, went to the Waffle House. I'm gonna hang out here, have some coffee.

[Woody Overton]

Yeah, well, we had the prisoners that

[Co-host (possibly a third host or guest)]

escaped the time and they found them at the Waffle House.

[Cindy Overton]

I mean, I guess that's where you go.

[Co-host (possibly a third host or guest)]

I guess that's where you go.

[Woody Overton]

I've been there like four times in my life.

[Co-host (possibly a third host or guest)]

Yeah. All right,

[Woody Overton]

it's time for effed up professionals. Foreign this next Story is safe to

[Co-host (possibly a third host or guest)]

put under effed up professionals because, you

[Woody Overton]

know, everybody has a profession. This guy's profession is he was a thief.

[Cindy Overton]

Okay.

[Co-host (possibly a third host or guest)]

Or a murderer.

[Woody Overton]

We really need a dumbass criminal section for real. And so they said. A hilarious video captured the moment a failed burglar. Burglar was locked in a van while attempting to steal landscaping equipment.

[Co-host (possibly a third host or guest)]

This one's for you, Ruthie Cox. Door Dory.

[Woody Overton]

So Dean Young, who's 26 years old, he attempted to raid the landscaper's truck, but became trapped inside the vehicle. Now, cameras everywhere, right? So they had a doorbell surveillance video which showed the moment. The moment Young dashed to the vehicle from his parked car. And guess what he was wearing. All neon green.

[Cindy Overton]

Okay?

[Co-host (possibly a third host or guest)]

Yeah, Right.

[Woody Overton]

So he climbs to the van and guess what happened. The landscaper, the owner of the van, locked him in, but didn't realize he locked him. He's like walking away and locked his. So he was like, I'm gonna hit this quick as. And then he gets in and the locks when he's walking off. Now, I'm pretty sure you can unlock the van from the inside, but evidently this dude was too dumb to figure that out. So he. He climbed to the van, he got locked in, and guess what? He panicked. The burger. He said, help me, help me. And he started screaming, this is on the camera. I'm inside. And then he's punching and kicking the vehicle. Well, the landscaper standing there, he's still holding his tools and he starts like to cautiously approach the truck to see what the F's going on. And he put his foot on the ramp on the outside of the truck. Now, another worker that was with him walked over toward the commotion and youngest heard shouting. I can't breathe.

[Co-host (possibly a third host or guest)]

Oh, God, the burger.

[Woody Overton]

Yeah. So Holly, a resident, the yellow.

[Co-host (possibly a third host or guest)]

I'm sending this Holly of Florida.

[Woody Overton]

Holly, a resident nursey Toledo's ring camera called the debacle unfold and talked to

[Co-host (possibly a third host or guest)]

WSBN about the incident.

[Woody Overton]

So the cars pull up in the middle of the street. He gets in the truck, tries to steal his truck, but unfortunately the gentleman

[Co-host (possibly a third host or guest)]

got locked in is what she told the TV station.

[Woody Overton]

The other truck went to lock his vehicle, but that locks. Locks all the doors, even in the back. So what happened is he locked him in. Well, as the 26 year old thrashed for freedoms, kicking the truck, screaming him. Him. The they kept him locked in until the popo arrived.

[Cindy Overton]

Good.

[Woody Overton]

So the Hialeah police department was really happy because this is incredible. This is the best arrest they've ever made.

[Co-host (possibly a third host or guest)]

They told Me to leave. It was telling the news channel.

[Woody Overton]

The footage also showed the landscapers watching officers as they escorted the dumb ass to their cop car. They said it's kind of scary because you know, I live here and the door could be left open and anyone can just walk in.

[Co-host (possibly a third host or guest)]

Well, lock your door.

[Woody Overton]

But they said it's a big avenue, it's very dangerous so we have to keep our doors locked more often. Well, the 26 year old idiot is facing burger and criminal mischief charges and he is currently in jail then. But before this incident, Young or idiot was free on bail on a previous burglary case where he stole a lawn edger and a weed whacker. So he's got it on for gardening. I'm going to steal a lot of,

[Co-host (possibly a third host or guest)]

but I ain't stealing the garden equipment,

[Woody Overton]

you know what I mean? I know if I was, I damn sure wouldn't steal a weed eater. But so we know that, all right? I don't weed eat y'. All. So you, you know what Young told the cops when they got there? He said, hey, I was, I was chased by a dog while giving out business cards. This is in Miami, NBC Miami reported. And he said, I feared for my life and I ran to the landscape of van for safety. Well, the video shows different. Anyway, they said, I think it's funny. It's a dumb crook.

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I guess.

[Woody Overton]

Now he's watching news inside the jail.

[Co-host (possibly a third host or guest)]

That's what the neighbor said.

[Cindy Overton]

Oh my goodness.

[Co-host (possibly a third host or guest)]

Dumbass.

[Cindy Overton]

That is dumbass.

[Woody Overton]

Dumb dumb. Remember those suckers?

[Co-host (possibly a third host or guest)]

Dumb dumbs.

[Cindy Overton]

Yeah, they still make dumb dumbs, do they? Would you like me to get you some?

[Co-host (possibly a third host or guest)]

No.

[Cindy Overton]

Okay.

[Co-host (possibly a third host or guest)]

I like the tootsie roll pop ones better. Like better not like blow pops.

[Cindy Overton]

Yeah, with the gum.

[Co-host (possibly a third host or guest)]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, toss rolls Pops don't suck either, but the blow pops are better.

[Woody Overton]

Okay. All right, what you got?

[Cindy Overton]

I got another repeat offender. Dumb criminal. Well, I don't know how dumb this one is, but it's a repeat.

[Woody Overton]

It's time for family matters.

[Cindy Overton]

I'm going to take us to Ohio. And a man was released from prison less than two years after serving time for attempting to kill his sister. And he attempted to kill his sister with a hammer. And he's now being accused of beating his neighbor to death. Brian J. Los, who is 60 years old, was arrested this week in connection with the murder of 63 year old Julie Miller, who lived in the same apartment complex as him. And Toledo police responded to the complex on Friday, I mean on February 16, where they found Miller dead in her apartment. Her death was ruled a homicide the following day and Las was arrested. In an interview with police, Las admitted that he went into Miller's apartment and struck her in the head multiple times.

[Co-host (possibly a third host or guest)]

Yeah, love.

[Cindy Overton]

A motive for the attack has not been released and the killings come about a year and a half after he was released and is on parole.

[Woody Overton]

Nice. Let him out, they kill again.

[Cindy Overton]

And remember he was in jail and released and on parole for trying to kill his sister.

[Co-host (possibly a third host or guest)]

Yeah, well, that burger, in last order,

[Woody Overton]

was out in jail for.

[Cindy Overton]

Exactly.

[Woody Overton]

Out on parole for the same shit or on bond.

[Cindy Overton]

And according to Ohio Department of Rehabilitation and Correction LA served approximately six and a half years in prison after being convicted in 2018.

[Co-host (possibly a third host or guest)]

Obviously not long enough. And there you have it.

[Woody Overton]

Yep. All right.

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[Woody Overton]

It's time for worldwide crime.

[Co-host (possibly a third host or guest)]

Going to Australia. Land down under Lover Lifers in Australia.

[Woody Overton]

This, this story is just disturbing, but not in a murder sense or anything else. But let me ask something. What? You go to the most expensive state

[Co-host (possibly a third host or guest)]

restaurant and you're like a tomahawk and you know a thousand dollars worth of food and drinks and all that. What length would you go to get your meal for free?

[Cindy Overton]

I wouldn't. If I'll go in, I wouldn't. I mean why would you go into a restaurant and get that kind of food and try to get your meal for free?

[Co-host (possibly a third host or guest)]

Well, let me tell you about it.

[Woody Overton]

So at a high end steak restaurant, they, they post the CCTV footage of a father who brings his family to dinner.

[Cindy Overton]

Disgusting.

[Woody Overton]

And so you know what make this

[Co-host (possibly a third host or guest)]

a family matters also,

[Woody Overton]

it's time for family matters. You said it's disgusting. You don't even know what he did.

[Cindy Overton]

Oh, he's trying to get the meal for free. I think that with your family, with you, how embarrassing is that?

[Woody Overton]

Well, wait, wait till I tell you

[Co-host (possibly a third host or guest)]

the rest of the story.

[Woody Overton]

So the, the CCTV camera, what they catch old dad doing? Yeah. If you could guess this, I give you a million dollars.

[Cindy Overton]

Bugs on his face.

[Woody Overton]

Nope.

[Cindy Overton]

Hair. Pulling his own hair out. Putting it on the food.

[Co-host (possibly a third host or guest)]

Yeah. You just got a million dollars.

[Woody Overton]

The father was apparently plucking armpit hair and putting it on his food before he complained.

[Cindy Overton]

I need my million dollars.

[Co-host (possibly a third host or guest)]

You get it. You got it all day long, you get a million dollars sitting right here.

[Woody Overton]

So the name of the restaurant is Pony Dining in the Rocks, which is in Sydney, Australia. It said the family of six demanded a refund before walking out without pain after making a complaint about a hair in their food.

[Co-host (possibly a third host or guest)]

On this was on a Wednesday night.

[Woody Overton]

The footage was shared online. Appeared to show the man in a white polo shirt looking around before appearing to reach into his armpits and pulling out strands of hair. What a pre. What kind of. Are you teaching your kids? Yeah, right. They said we don't usually share content like this.

[Co-host (possibly a third host or guest)]

That's what the restaurant said.

[Woody Overton]

The they said this footage shows an incident which occurred in our venue after the meal was served. The guests later raised a complaint regarding a hair in their meal and declined payment for all the food.

[Co-host (possibly a third host or guest)]

But listen to this.

[Woody Overton]

During the interaction our team also experienced inappropriate and unacceptable behavior. They added that the group had ordered some of their most expensive food, including Tomahawk State was cost. There's just the one steak is over £100. They said everything was very clean. They had a beautiful table. We said, well, we decided to check the CCTV after we noticed they were acting very weird. They ordered a lot of food including the Tomahawk and we tried to make them pay but he refused. So we called the police. However, at the time we didn't have the footage. So police adviser. It was a civil problem and nothing they could do at that stage. So they paid for the drinks and then left.

[Co-host (possibly a third host or guest)]

I'm pretty sure that's. Oh,

[Woody Overton]

I don't know what kind of training those cops had. The dude's got hair in his feet, don't want to pay for it. Your ass going to jail if you

[Co-host (possibly a third host or guest)]

walk out that door without paying for it.

[Woody Overton]

You can sue him later on.

[Cindy Overton]

Yeah.

[Woody Overton]

So anyway, they said some call for the patron to be named and shamed while the workers shared their horror stories. I'm a restaurant manager just next to you guys and they did the same thing to me. One wrote and they found a small rock in their food and created a huge scene and then left without paying the full bill. So this is an Argentina inspired restaurant, is known for its legendary beef cuts

[Co-host (possibly a third host or guest)]

and fresh seafood in the Australian city.

[Woody Overton]

And look, they post their.

[Co-host (possibly a third host or guest)]

The videos actually kind of funny. This idiot, he's looking around like a little kid about to eat his boogers

[Woody Overton]

and to see if he's. By watching it, pulls it out and puts it on the. I mean it's not like entertainment for you apparently.

[Cindy Overton]

And.

[Woody Overton]

And he, he's done it several other places. When they post on social media, people

[Co-host (possibly a third host or guest)]

like he did it us. There was a rock in his food.

[Cindy Overton]

I mean, yeah. And it seems like it's a family deal.

[Co-host (possibly a third host or guest)]

Well, the kids damn well no. It's just not their fault that their dad's a cheap bastard.

[Cindy Overton]

No.

[Woody Overton]

All right.

[Co-host (possibly a third host or guest)]

What you got?

[Cindy Overton]

Family matters.

[Woody Overton]

It's time for Family Matters.

[Cindy Overton]

I'm going to take us to Kentucky.

[Co-host (possibly a third host or guest)]

Kentucky.

[Cindy Overton]

Where a 17 year old boy and was arrested.

[Co-host (possibly a third host or guest)]

I'm sorry, I got to say this about Kentucky.

[Woody Overton]

The we had a bottle of blueberry

[Co-host (possibly a third host or guest)]

moonshine which was legally made, y'. All not illegal made from Kentucky. And we opened it on Fat Tuesday just to try it. But had it for years.

[Woody Overton]

Yeah, that's the nastiest I ever tried in my life.

[Co-host (possibly a third host or guest)]

We literally.

[Woody Overton]

I wouldn't feed that to my worst guests.

[Co-host (possibly a third host or guest)]

Yeah, not, not that we have a secret stash. For one, people who really don't like alcohol.

[Woody Overton]

We held on this one for years. What does that say about who we were hanging Tuesday that says we ran out of alcohol?

[Cindy Overton]

That's literally what that says.

[Co-host (possibly a third host or guest)]

I'm sorry, Guy.

[Cindy Overton]

Kentucky well, the 17 year old boy has been arrested in connection with the deaths of a woman and her 12 year old son in Allen county. And the teenager is facing multiple charges including two counts of murder after deputies discovered the victims inside a home on Wednesday. According to Allen County Sheriff's Office, deputies initially responded to the residents following a report of domestic assault. When they arrived though, they found two individuals deceased inside the home. Officials didn't immediately release details about the circumstances around the death but confirmed that a suspect was actually taken into custody right after. The investigation has since turned over. Has since been turned over to Kentucky State police. And trooper Katen Parker identified the victims as 42 year old Tracy Trasky and her 12 year old son. Authorities confirmed that Traski was the child's mother. Details about how the two were killed have not been publicly disclosed. And when deputies arrived at the scene they also discovered that Traski's vehicle was missing and then the car was later located abandoned several miles from the home. Around the same time, law enforcement officers spotted a male suspect running through nearby wooded areas. And after a brief pursuit, officers apprehended the 17 year old. The teenager, whose name obviously has not been released due to his age, has been charged with two counts of murder. And in addition to those charges, he faces accusations of tampering with physical evidence, auto theft and fleeing or evading. Police authorities are not providing further information about the suspect's relationship to the victims or a possible motive. So the sheriff's office initially offered limited detail stating that the suspect had been apprehended a short time after the deputies arrived at the home. And as the case develops it, you

[Co-host (possibly a third host or guest)]

know, so there you have it. Yeah, yeah.

[Woody Overton]

You know what we haven't reported on

[Co-host (possibly a third host or guest)]

in but I have been following it as a, as the Nancy Gunthery case and I'm just going to tell y' all now she's dead. The, she's been murdered and I have

[Woody Overton]

different thoughts on the case as, as it's progressed. But you don't take an 84 year old lady, go there and actually abduct

[Co-host (possibly a third host or guest)]

her and get her out and they, you know, they got the mass gunman and all that. Now they think it's more than one. And security lights were smashed outside. All that speaks of professionals. But the I don't believe it's you for ransom. They had the ransom notes and some fake ransom notes or people claiming and wanted to bitcoin. They've arrested people on for all charges but she be dead. And the I'm not going to say what I think it is. But the it's. It's no coincidence. How about that?

[Woody Overton]

Yeah. And. But I'll wait until I'm proven correct

[Co-host (possibly a third host or guest)]

and then I'll tell you all about it. How about that?

[Cindy Overton]

Yeah.

[Woody Overton]

All right. It's time for worldwide crime. Besides gold mining, skull mining really could

[Co-host (possibly a third host or guest)]

be considered a sport in my mind. But the what is one sport that I was absolutely fascinated with and was absolutely going to d but I've never got to do it.

[Cindy Overton]

Oh, don't do that to me. It's a sport like a real sport. Real sport like a. Like a Olympic event.

[Co-host (possibly a third host or guest)]

I don't know if it's Olympic event but people get paid for it.

[Cindy Overton]

Did we talk about this the other day?

[Woody Overton]

Nope. I. I can't believe I get to

[Co-host (possibly a third host or guest)]

stump my wife after 180 years.

[Woody Overton]

You're gonna say it.

[Cindy Overton]

I'm gonna feel really really stupid.

[Woody Overton]

You are because at one time I

[Co-host (possibly a third host or guest)]

was probably the only person in Louisiana that had the tools for the sports and I still never got to use it.

[Cindy Overton]

Like sword fishing.

[Co-host (possibly a third host or guest)]

Sword fishing is fishing.

[Cindy Overton]

Well that's a sport.

[Woody Overton]

The tools to do this.

[Cindy Overton]

Oh my gosh, I'm stomped.

[Woody Overton]

When I was in high school I

[Co-host (possibly a third host or guest)]

bought a surfboard and I was going surfing.

[Woody Overton]

I just never got to go because I love the water surfing. I was confused as you have the tools to do it.

[Cindy Overton]

You don't have a place to surf.

[Woody Overton]

I bought damn well went to your arms and bought one. Me and little Hal did and tied it to the top of my car. One day. One day I was going to California to surf and I just never got to see.

[Cindy Overton]

That's so very true.

[Woody Overton]

That and I love the Beach Boys. I love everything about surfing and everything. Well, you know, and I still watch

[Co-host (possibly a third host or guest)]

like the 100 foot wave and the

[Woody Overton]

surfing shows and stuff like that. Well, we're going to Costa Rica.

[Co-host (possibly a third host or guest)]

Big surf down there, right?

[Woody Overton]

And they had a California surfing legend. And actually I heard this guy's name before. It's Kurt Van dyke and he's 66 years old now.

[Co-host (possibly a third host or guest)]

But he's very, very, very famous in the world surf and won all kinds of competitions.

[Woody Overton]

But he also owned a hotel in Porto Viha and de Talamanica. And guess what? He's been found dead under his bed with a sheet over his head and a knife next to him.

[Co-host (possibly a third host or guest)]

And it's according to local Authorities now

[Woody Overton]

he's 66 but he's a player. He's a pimple on the beach. His 31 year old girlfriend who's identified as Ororo was in the shower when two armed men suddenly stormed into the room and forced a couple into a room at gunpoint. Ororo said the intruders zip tied her hands and feet, assaulted her and made off for several valuables including the couple's 2013 Hyundai Elantra.

[Co-host (possibly a third host or guest)]

And then they hauled ass. Right.

[Woody Overton]

So Costa Rica's judicial investigation department said in a statement that Van Dyke's girlfriend was not seriously injured in the town where the killing occurred is mostly considered

[Co-host (possibly a third host or guest)]

safe and the incident sent shock waves through the community.

[Woody Overton]

I am deeply saddened.

[Co-host (possibly a third host or guest)]

Roger Sims he's the president of Costa

[Woody Overton]

Rica Southern Caribbean Caribbean Chamber of Tourism

[Co-host (possibly a third host or guest)]

Commerce his foot told the Costa Rican newspaper.

[Woody Overton]

He said we've had a long period of calm and tranquility. This shocks and saddens us because the Caribbean has been so peaceful. And Van Dyke was well known both locally in Costa Rica and in California. And he spent decades running a modest hotel in Puerto Vallo and built a reputation as a standout surfer after arriving in the early 1980s.

[Co-host (possibly a third host or guest)]

That's when I warned getting into it

[Woody Overton]

to chase the thunderous salsa Bravo break which was run that earned him the

[Co-host (possibly a third host or guest)]

nickname King along the Caribbean coast.

[Woody Overton]

And surfing was in his blood. His father Gene Van Dyke was a Northern California pioneer of the sport while his mother Betty helped blaze a trail

[Co-host (possibly a third host or guest)]

for women surfers in the 50s and 60s.

[Woody Overton]

The

[Co-host (possibly a third host or guest)]

is sad never know when it's going to happen what's going to happen before over nothing I know and it's not like this dude was a kingpin drug dealer. He's lived there forever running a modest hotel. 66 I'm pretty sure he still liked to get on his board. You don't remember on on my car in high school I had the big

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[Woody Overton]

The the best the best wax for your stick. That's what that was a wax Speaking

[Cindy Overton]

of surfing I now really the I

[Co-host (possibly a third host or guest)]

knew once I got a taste of scuba diving I gave up on the surfing.

[Cindy Overton]

Yeah.

[Co-host (possibly a third host or guest)]

Spent all my time scuba diving. Yeah yeah.

[Cindy Overton]

I'm sorry I failed you.

[Co-host (possibly a third host or guest)]

Yes she did but it's okay. What you Got.

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[Cindy Overton]

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[Co-host (possibly a third host or guest)]

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[Cindy Overton]

Well, I've got a failure here. A man. Sorry, I wouldn't usually say something like that, but this man has 29 convictions and he's now being arrested again for indecent exposure.

[Co-host (possibly a third host or guest)]

So he's a career criminal. Career.

[Cindy Overton]

We're in Gainesville, Florida, Right. Richard Lamar Brown Jr. Was 32 years old with 29 convictions.

[Co-host (possibly a third host or guest)]

Nice.

[Cindy Overton]

Was arrested.

[Woody Overton]

I mean, that's like

[Co-host (possibly a third host or guest)]

one a year, literally.

[Woody Overton]

You were in diaphrags.

[Cindy Overton]

And so. Oh, my God. So he was exposing himself behind a downtown business, y'.

[Woody Overton]

All.

[Co-host (possibly a third host or guest)]

He's whooping out his wee and hairy bubblegum.

[Cindy Overton]

At around 2.48pm on Friday the 16th, an employee of a downtown business went out to the back patio to take out the trash, and she saw a man leaning up against the wall. And as she looked at him, she could see that his genitals were exposed.

[Co-host (possibly a third host or guest)]

Did he have an erection?

[Cindy Overton]

Well, he was masturbating.

[Co-host (possibly a third host or guest)]

There you go.

[Cindy Overton]

The business. The business showed surveillance video of the incident to the responding Gainesville Police Department. The officer that responded found Brown walking southbound on Southwest 2nd street and reported that when Brown saw the officer, he immediately turned into a parking garage. The officer then located him in the parking garage, and Brown gave him his name, but insisted that he had forgotten his birth date.

[Co-host (possibly a third host or guest)]

Yeah, convenient, right?

[Cindy Overton]

The officer eventually used law enforcement databases to identify him, fingerprinted him.

[Co-host (possibly a third host or guest)]

He didn't forget how to masturbate in public.

[Cindy Overton]

Then he started. Then he gave him his Miranda rights. And Brown said that he was. Brown reportedly said he was scratching and his genitals fell out of his face.

[Woody Overton]

Try to tell that one to the judge.

[Cindy Overton]

Mr. Brown, he was not masturbating.

[Woody Overton]

With your 29 other arrests, they got to put this person up on the stand and go say, yeah, it's like that guy was jacking off in the courtroom that time. And I had to tell the judge.

[Co-host (possibly a third host or guest)]

And after I drug him out in the hallway and I told him, I said he was masturbating. He said he was white. He said he didn't get.

[Woody Overton]

I said he was beating his meat. Your honor, in your courtroom, he's beating his meat like he owed him money. That's why if I take the stand, I'd say, no, he was scratching and his gum fell out. No, he was beating his meat like

[Co-host (possibly a third host or guest)]

it owed him money. That's what I would tell the defense attorney.

[Cindy Overton]

Well, Brown has been charged with indecent exposure, second or subsequent offense, and resisting an officer without violence. He has 17 felony convictions, one violent and 12 misdemeanor convictions, non violent, including two previous convictions for indecent exposure.

[Co-host (possibly a third host or guest)]

Yep, yep, yep, yep.

[Cindy Overton]

He was served four state prison sentences with his most current Release being in 2023.

[Co-host (possibly a third host or guest)]

Yeah, so the, you know, back to the profile. But he just can't masturbate inside his own home. It's not good enough for him.

[Woody Overton]

He fantasizes about going out and doing in public too.

[Co-host (possibly a third host or guest)]

The fantasy doesn't work enough anymore and he has to go do it and

[Woody Overton]

probably got, you know, 29 arrest for whatever. There's 2,990 he didn't get called for.

[Cindy Overton]

Right.

[Co-host (possibly a third host or guest)]

And that's a fact.

[Woody Overton]

So beast mode. Serial killers come in all shapes, forms and kinds, right?

[Co-host (possibly a third host or guest)]

What do you think I mean by that?

[Cindy Overton]

Well, they could be women, they could be men. Is that what you're talking like could be?

[Co-host (possibly a third host or guest)]

But that's not what I'm talking about.

[Cindy Overton]

They're victims of the victims also. Could be women. Could be men or animals.

[Co-host (possibly a third host or guest)]

That's right.

[Woody Overton]

Damn. You're on bail today.

[Co-host (possibly a third host or guest)]

Except for the surfboard.

[Woody Overton]

The y' all check this story out

[Co-host (possibly a third host or guest)]

and see if I can get the audio to play.

[Cat Care Narrator]

Just like the wand chooses the wizard, the cat chooses the owner. And some cats prefer to live a free life. These independent, free roaming felines become community cats. Cats are pretty self sufficient, so as long as they have access to food Water and shelter, they can do pretty well on their own. These cats have access to what nature provides in the woods, but the community also comes together to feed them just in case. If you see a cat in your community, look for a tipped ear. This is a sign that it's been either spayed or neutered. If you don't see that, contact your vet or the local humane society and ask them about their Trap Neuter Return program. This program safely captures the cats so they can be vaccinated and spayed or neutered before returning them back home. Really, the best thing you can do is just leave them be. This also applies if you come across some kittens. Just because you don't see mama doesn't mean she isn't nearby. If you notice that the cats are hurt, ill or showing signs of aggression, contact your local vet, a shelter or humane society for assistance.

[Woody Overton]

You could do all that or you could do this. So they said. A doorbell surveillance camera recorded the moments after a beloved pet was killed. And now investigators in central California fear a serial cat killer maybe on the loose after two more cats were found

[Co-host (possibly a third host or guest)]

dead in the same neighborhood. According to the local kcratv, the deaths

[Woody Overton]

were reported in and around the Riverview Mobile Home park in San Joaquin Valley town of Houston, where surveillance video captured a mass suspect in connection with at

[Co-host (possibly a third host or guest)]

least one of the homicides.

[Woody Overton]

And here's what they know about the case. One of the cats, which is nine year old, named L, was reportedly shot

[Co-host (possibly a third host or guest)]

during the night of Sunday, February 8th and the incident was discovered the follow following day.

[Woody Overton]

Now, L's owner who asked remain anonymous out of fear, told KCRA her cat was well known and loved throughout the neighborhood. She said they're just evil and there's no other way to describe it. She was just a neighborhood cat that everybody loved. And I don't know who did this, but I'm gonna find out who did it. Well, doorbell video captured moments after the shooting shows a person walking up to the cat's body, placing it into a

[Co-host (possibly a third host or guest)]

plastic bag and walking away.

[Woody Overton]

I have nothing. I can't bury her. I can't do anything. She was just taken. Time marches on. And according to KCRA TV surveillance footage shows a suspect wearing a face covering, shorts, black socks and black flip flops. And in one clip, the person is seen approaching a driveway where the cat was last seen before being shot. In another video taken approximately 13 minutes later, the suspect is seen returning to the scene, picking up the cat's body

[Co-host (possibly a third host or guest)]

and placed into the bag before leaving.

[Woody Overton]

Now the sheriff's office confirmed to KCRA that investigators are reviewing surveillance footage and witness statements as part of an ongoing investigation.

[Co-host (possibly a third host or guest)]

But it doesn't stop there.

[Woody Overton]

The joy dances. So KCRA reports that another resident in the neighborhood later found his own cat dead in his backyard, along with a second dead cat near his back porch. We didn't know what to think because they were just dead.

[Co-host (possibly a third host or guest)]

And that's what he told KCRA tv.

[Woody Overton]

I didn't want to inspect it, but now we know. Now it all ties together. Well, authorities have not confirmed how the other two cats died, and investigators said the motive behind the incidents remain unclear. Now, the neighbors, the residents told KC that fear is spreading throughout the community, with concerns extending beyond pets to personal safety. We're all terrified. All of my neighbors are scared. We have children walking down the street from school. We have people walking around at night walking their dogs at night.

[Co-host (possibly a third host or guest)]

This is terrifying.

[Woody Overton]

Well, the Stanislaus County Sheriff's Office confirmed the KCRA tv that the cases remain under investigation, and the deputies are continuing to gather evidence.

[Co-host (possibly a third host or guest)]

And there you have it. Like cat serial killer running around the mobile home park in Stanislaus, not California. Yeah, that's pretty up. But, you know, everybody knows serial killers start out torturing animals. And I'd be very surprised if this wasn't a teenager with a pellet gun, because they're not loud. Not a.22. I'm talking about one you have to pump up.

[Cindy Overton]

Yeah.

[Co-host (possibly a third host or guest)]

And a pellet will certainly kill a cat, just like it'll kill a squirrel or whatever. Yeah, but they.

[Woody Overton]

I mean, nobody said they heard gunshots.

[Co-host (possibly a third host or guest)]

No, but everybody's got cameras. Yeah, he going to jail.

[Woody Overton]

He going to jail for kid. This catch. You know what he's gonna get out. Exactly. Nothing. He'd be like that other masturbating 29

[Co-host (possibly a third host or guest)]

times that he got caught. So.

[Woody Overton]

And there you have that.

[Co-host (possibly a third host or guest)]

And that's the way the serial killer cat story went.

[Woody Overton]

All right, the. I'm gonna do one more. And

[Co-host (possibly a third host or guest)]

there's a little bit of justice in this story.

[Woody Overton]

It's time for Family matters. And again, y', all, we need submissions. We don't want to call dumb criminals

[Co-host (possibly a third host or guest)]

because we had that on another show.

[Woody Overton]

Y' all come up with a theme name for dumbass criminals or whatever.

[Co-host (possibly a third host or guest)]

Right.

[Woody Overton]

So we need to start a segment

[Co-host (possibly a third host or guest)]

for this because they're. We're just overflowed with them.

[Woody Overton]

So just after this dude killed his wife in Arlington.

[Co-host (possibly a third host or guest)]

Now listen to this name. This is original. The first name is original by itself.

[Woody Overton]

T A R eq Tariq. Last name A L K A Y A L I Tariqa Kakila predicted in a phone call to a colleague that he'd be going to prison for the rest of his life.

[Co-host (possibly a third host or guest)]

Yeah.

[Woody Overton]

Yeah. Although he did not receive this, the sentence, a Kaluya will at minimum be confined for about a decade longer than if he had not appealed his murder conviction. So in his retrial, it compelled by the defendant's successful appeal connected to a judge flawed jury instruction. A state district court jury in Tarrant county on Friday imposed a term of 17 years longer than the jury in this first trial. Gee, you gotta love that, right? Yeah, like, I got the judge. I got the judge. I got me a new trial. Yeah, you got your new trial. But let me tell you what happened. So Katie Gibby was an IHOP restaurant manager. And he was again found guilty of murder in the May 2019 killing of his new wife, Wasam Musa, whose screaming mouth he covered with his hand inside their apartment. Now, the jury that heard the case this week in the 396 district court assessed like a punishment at 40 years in prison. Ikea, who's 43, will become eligible parole

[Co-host (possibly a third host or guest)]

after he serves 20 years. So not gonna let him out. And he's gonna get 63 years at least 63 years old.

[Woody Overton]

But the jury's verdict in the first trial in December 2021 carried a 23 year prison sentence. And the retrial jury is not told

[Co-host (possibly a third host or guest)]

that an earlier trial occurred.

[Woody Overton]

Right. Both panels were directed to consider a term of five to 99 years or life. Both juries rejected a defense argument that Akiya was under the influence of sudden passion and would have considered a term of two to 20 years if they

[Co-host (possibly a third host or guest)]

were persuaded by that argument.

[Woody Overton]

Like sudden passion. Like, you know how many times I suddenly passion want to knock the shit out of you or you want to knock the shit out of me? Is that a defense?

[Cindy Overton]

No, it's not a defense. That's the worst.

[Woody Overton]

She pissed me off, so I had to suddenly passion. Yeah, Jack. Or not. Anyway, Ikea moved to Texas in 2009 and frequently traveled to and from Jordan. And it's according to the case background

[Co-host (possibly a third host or guest)]

the Texas Corps of Criminal Appeals.

[Woody Overton]

But in April 2017, Akia met Musa in Jordan, and his uncle is married to Musa's sister. And in November that year, Ikea Musa were engaged in. And In August of 2018, they married. Both the engagement and the wedding took place in Jordan. Now, within 24 hours of the wedding, Musa told Akia and her relatives that she wanted a divorce.

[Co-host (possibly a third host or guest)]

24 hours. Okay, that's Got to be a record somewhere I thought I had the record I was going to say that but

[Woody Overton]

at least she did not provide an explanation IKEA returned to Texas and Musa continued to live in Jordan until May 25th of 2019 when she took a flight to Texas to live with a Kia and then three days later at 6:29am I Kia called Bernie Smith his friend and co worker while he was driving to work the Smith testified to this during the retrial the end he said he was crying and he said he made a mistake and he had hit his wife IKEA told Smith that he covered Moose's mouth to keep her from screaming right and Smith testified to it right so and guess what?

[Co-host (possibly a third host or guest)]

When you do that Musa stopped breathing

[Woody Overton]

Smith told ikea to call 911 ikea returned to the apartment in called 911

[Co-host (possibly a third host or guest)]

Smith also called 911 okay evident he didn't believe a kid was gonna do

[Woody Overton]

it right so Arlson Police Department Arlington Texas Arson Police department officers found Mooses unresponsive on the floor and she was pronounced at the hospital the they said

[Co-host (possibly a third host or guest)]

it was the corner you know did their and they said it was fixiation and.

[Woody Overton]

In the first trial AIA's defense attorney argued that the the theory that Moose's death was an accident and that she died due to a pre existing heart condition okay I'm pretty sure she had a ti hem and when they cut

[Co-host (possibly a third host or guest)]

her open they can her thyroid whatever it's called th bone is broken whatever

[Woody Overton]

But a key actually testified he testified there was tension between himself and Musa as soon as she arrived in Texas like a if it was Tencent 24 hours after your marriage I can imagine

[Co-host (possibly a third host or guest)]

what it was all these years later Anyway the. The.

[Woody Overton]

The first trial got reversed and in a key wasn't expecting this the second

[Co-host (possibly a third host or guest)]

jury to come back with 17 more years now appeal that Aha.

[Cindy Overton]

You always say that strangulation is the most into one of the most intimate form but covering someone's mouth to keep them from screaming is way different than what you do when you're going to strangle somebody I mean you know what

[Woody Overton]

I mean like you well you still

[Co-host (possibly a third host or guest)]

straighten it but I. I may have misspoke I. I don't know enough to not say that he didn't choke her to death by cover her mouth and nose still asphyxiation whether you do with

[Woody Overton]

a pillow or whatever of your mouth

[Co-host (possibly a third host or guest)]

and nose or you choke them and break their neck same thing okay well

[Cindy Overton]

I might have heard wrong I heard covered the mouth to keep her from screaming.

[Co-host (possibly a third host or guest)]

That's what he said.

[Cindy Overton]

Exactly.

[Woody Overton]

That's what he called his homeboy and

[Co-host (possibly a third host or guest)]

said, I just think I made a mistake.

[Woody Overton]

Yeah, yeah, she did. Then you. What I love about the whole thing

[Co-host (possibly a third host or guest)]

is because I, you know, they always appeal your shit. And all my cases have been appealed. Every one of them's been upheld. And the. Because they find something, right? They got 24 hours a day to sit around and find something.

[Woody Overton]

I love the fact that he appealed it. Got a new trial, cost taxpayers all that money.

[Co-host (possibly a third host or guest)]

And that motherfucker got 17 more years.

[Woody Overton]

So he would have been out at. Instead of 63, he could have got out at 40. Some.

[Cindy Overton]

Yeah, do it again. He had plenty of time to do it again.

[Co-host (possibly a third host or guest)]

I'm not worried about doing again. I'm talking about the fact that he, if he kept his mouth shut and took his lick like a man, he had got out while he still had some decent life to live.

[Woody Overton]

He had a shot now, his first

[Co-host (possibly a third host or guest)]

shots at 63 and he ain't getting out there.

[Cindy Overton]

Right.

[Woody Overton]

And that's all I got for today. What about you?

[Cindy Overton]

That's all I got.

[Co-host (possibly a third host or guest)]

Surfboard.

[Woody Overton]

And I'm Woody Overton.

[Cindy Overton]

Cindy Overton.

[Co-host (possibly a third host or guest)]

Talk y' all tomorrow.

[Woody Overton]

Love you.

[Co-host (possibly a third host or guest)]

Peace.

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