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True Crime Time For January 15, 2026 | Hijacking, Sex Trafficking, Child Abuse & Police Misconduct
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Woody Overton
Hello everybody and welcome to this episode of True crime time for three. Thursday, January 15, 2025 oh, caught myself 2026 and I'm Woody Overton and I'm rolling solo today on True Crime Time 4, y'. All.
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I've already recorded it and it's been edited Patreon convicts. You already have it. You would got it on Wednesday at 12:01am and it is a episode with Ms. Barbara Johnson who is hashtag justice for Haley's mom. And she talks about in depth about the district attorney and what's going on on Haley's case and the direction that we want to go now. And I back her play a thousand percent. She's a grieving mother and this is the last shot we have. So y' all listen to it please tomorrow and if you can, you know, if you're led to and you can help, then please help. If you can't, we get it and understand it but it's very, very powerful and very important. Also Saturday hashtag just for Bradley. Hashtag just for ao. I conclude my response to share the sheriff of Vernon Parish, Sam Kraft's public statement that he released as far as me and I'm assuming Morgan Baggett and and I take it step by step, y' all and and answer everything because there's a lot that's just so patron of convicts. You will get that tonight or you got it this morning 1201am it's the same time you're getting this. What's that? No. Yes. Your patron of convicts are getting it at the same time. You're getting this, right? On Thursday at 12:01am, everybody, all lifers will get it on Saturday at 1201am so thank you all for that. And let's roll with some true crime time for this Thursday. Let me take a quick gander at the national, make sure I am not missing out on anything. Oh, you know what, y', all, I want to say my biggest heartfelt condolences to our investigative producer, Leah Marie. Her sweet mama gained her angels wings and. And went to heaven on Monday. And Leah, our thoughts and prayers are with you. I know it's a hard time. Unfortunately, I was there like 8 months ago, same thing with my dad, you know, and it's. It's nothing I could say to make it any easier on you, sweetie. But we love you and we're praying for you and praying for all you lifers. And I know people die every day, right? But the. It's kind of like a homicide unless it's your family member that's been murdered. You know, everybody knows about people dying and. But unless you're going through it at that moment, you really don't get it right? Or it's like having a migraine. Everybody knows what a migraine is, but unless you're suffering from migraine at that moment, you don't really get the pain at that time, so. But our prayers are with you, Leah, and your family and all everybody loved and you, your mama, y'.
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Woody Overton
Her mama was huge fan of real life, real crime. So rest in peace, ma'. Am. All right, let's get started with something. I don't know. Let's see. All right, so we're going to start by giving you a planes, trains and automobile. And we're going all the way back to June of 1972, when I was just a baby, probably still in diapers. And In June of 1972, dude named Martin McNally got on board an American Airlines flight in. When he got on board that plane, he was gonna make headlines across the country. Now, y' all lifers that don't remember how it used to be in airports. You had no security back then. You could smoke on the planes. They wheeled down the alcohol cart, down the thing. You could drink on the planes. You could meet your people, you could walk them right to the gate. There was no security, and it's just the way that it was because nobody was. Had been a dickhead enough to start making these Security protocols go in place like they did after 9 11. But Martin McNally, he was 28 years old, and when he got on board that plane, it was actually Flight 119, American Airlines Flight 119. He got on a plane, and he decided it'd be a good idea for that. That day was a. June 2nd, was a date. This a good idea to hijack this plane? And why do you hijack a plane? Some people do it, like, for political reasons and to get away to another country or whatever. Not Mr. McNally. He hijacked Flight 119 and demanded just over $500,000, which. Back in. In back in 72, that had been like 5 million today. And he also. He didn't stop there. He demanded parachutes for his escape. Right. Well, I guess if you're going to get one, you better have the other, because when you. If you just land on the plane, they're going to arrest your ass, so you can't outrun the radiator. Well, his scheme, if you will, his hijacking. Yeah, It's a crime that cost him nearly 40 years of his life as his ass got arrested and he went to prison. And when he was in prison, he got involved in an escape attempt that led to somebody being dead. And he said that still haunts him today. So here's what happened. Look, remember, there was no metal detectors. There was nothing. In 1972, you carried your luggage on board. Whatever you carry on was your carry on. And that's what Mr. McNally did. He was armed with a rifle, smoke bombs, and a briefcase and a fake identity. And he seized control of the jet, which was carrying about 100 passengers from St. Louis to Oklahoma. The flight was forced to return to Missouri so authorities could gather the ransom. Right, so the. They're not. The pilot's not gonna have 500 grand in parachutes stashed in the plane. Right. So he's got him at gunpoint, makes them go back, makes his demands, and there you have it.
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Woody Overton
They go back to Missouri, and quotation is said it was insane. I was stupid. This was what McNally told People magazine in January, the eighth interview. He said, I should have never done it. Now, his plan was inspired by the mysterious hijacker known as D.B. cooper, who had pulled off a similar stunt just months earlier. On November 24, 1971, Cooper hijacked Northwest Orient Airlines Flight 305. Claimed he had a bomb and demanded $200,000 and four parachutes. And he released the passengers in Seattle, and they took back off and Cooper parachuted from the aircraft during that flight, and he vanished into the forest of Southwest Washington. And nobody knows what happened to him to this day. And I've seen every documentary on Cooper. I've read everything I can read on it. It's very interesting case to me. His ass is dead. They found some of the money along a riverbed and like that. They even had one documentary recently where his brother's from, like Alabama or somewhere that, you know, say he's living in South America. That's bullshit. But anyway, so McNally, I'll tell you about him. He was the son of a shoe salesman from Windat, Michigan, and he heard a radio broadcast about Cooper, and you decided, hey, I can do this, right? So, but looking back on it, McNally said he basically threw away his life for a bunch of paper. But on that June morning, McNally's plan unraveled nearly as soon as it began. He released all but one hostage in exchange for a new plane and crew. He strapped the bag containing $502,000, maybe, you know, I know. I was wondering, why not just 500, he had to have 502. But anyway, he. He straps the bag containing the $502,000 to his waist and he prepared to parachute toward Canada. Well, he's a Navy veteran, Mr. McNally was, but he had never worn a parachute. And McNally jumps over Indiana, and then.
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Woody Overton
As his disaster struck. And his reserve sheet, which was supplied by the FBI, slammed into his head, bruised in his face, and the cash ripped away from his body and disappeared into the night. He said, I couldn't believe it. I was screaming and hollering, the money's gone. Well, five days later, police captured McNally with just $13 in his possession. And instead of all that 500 something thousand dollars and getting away and going into Canada, he faced two life sentences for air piracy. And he spent nearly four decades behind bars before he was released in 2010. Well, let me tell you about his prison time, right? Prison life brought its own drama. And six years after his arrest, McNally became involved in a failed escape attempt that ended in tragedy. While in custody in Marion, Illinois, he was involved in a plot that led Barbara Oswald to hijack a helicopter in hopes of landing it inside the prison. Well, the again, sugar turned to shit. Because the plan collapsed and Oswald was killed by the pilot she kidnapped. Her teenage daughter was also briefly in prison. So McNally still carries the weight of that day. He says, that's why I'm telling my story to rehabilitate Barbara and Robin. Neither of them were criminally inclined. We were scamming them. Yeah. Yes, you were. So today McNally is 81 years old and living a life far removed from the chaos of his past. And he said, I take care of my sister's 93 year old mother in law, live with my two cats and have no worries. And this is what he told People magazine. McNally has even befriended one of the stewardess from the hijacked flight. Anyway, y', all, they did his whole story. It's called American Skyjacker and it's a documentary and streaming on Amazon prime and Apple TV and other platforms. And while reflecting on his quest for fast money, McNally offers advice to anyone tempted to buy crime, saying quotations. Forget about that nonsense. You're not going to get away with it, especially nowadays. Get an education, stay clean and get a decent job. Well, Mr. McNally, I agree with you. And you, I bet you wish you could met your older self and avoided all this because the older self would tell younger self, don't be a dick. So all right, next story. Bring it back home to places near and dear to my heart. New Orleans, Louisiana. Let's see if I could play this audio for y'. All.
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Chris Welty (News Reporter)
A more than six month long investigation.
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Woody Overton
Breaks up an alleged sex trafficking ring in New Orleans. Chris Welty reports the victims include juveniles and adult women.
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Chris Welty (News Reporter)
Last summer, the nopd, FBI, Homeland Security Investigations and the Orleans Parish District Attorney's Office began developing leads on an alleged sex trafficking ring in the city. Police say most of the victims were juveniles and adult women, but think there could be male victims, too. After securing warrants, investigators quickly moved to make arrests Thursday. NOPD Deputy Superintendent Nicholas Gurnan says to keep victims safe, the arrests were made away from where people were trafficked. These individuals we believe were working in concert to traffic minors in and out of the New Orleans area. Police arrested Leroy Allen, Commodore Allen, Lawrence Allen and Montrell Porter. Gurnon says Leroy Allen was the ringleader. We know that there are individuals who have been victimized by these people and we want them to know they're in jail and there are resources and resource partners here that can discuss how we can keep them safe. Gurnon says the NOPD and federal agents then searched an apartment off of I10 in New Orleans East. Police believe that's where a lot of activity happened. We located multiple firearms and other items of evidentiary value. Investigators and prosecutors say technology is crucial in these cases. The dates are made through technology, the payments are made through technology. Right. Somebody still has to give payment for, you know, the, the survivor, if you will, and for the brutalization that person.
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Woody Overton
And if we find any evidence that we can track back to you, you will be prosecuted, too.
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Chris Welty (News Reporter)
District Attorney Jason Williams wants the survivors to feel comfort and safety, many of.
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Woody Overton
Whom we do not even know yet. So this is also a clarion call out to you if you hear this. If, if, if you know these individuals and you are victimized by them, please come forward. The people who stand behind me are ready to help. Well, shout out to them.
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Chris Welty (News Reporter)
And police want sex trafficking victims to know that community resources to help with counseling and other services are available. The Eden Centers for Hope and Healing, the New Orleans Family justice center, and the Hope Community Health center are a few local organizations ready to assist victims. Liz.
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Woody Overton
Well, shout out to them and kudos to for getting those under arrest and getting it done. And shout out to the Cajun Queen and her program that we, that we, we had her on. I had her on for several episodes and the people like her that help these victims and, and try to live a normal life and, and better themselves. So. All right, let's go. Let's go to Alabama. Haven't been there in a minute, I don't think. Now this one, oh, Lord, this is, this we going. You know, every, everybody has to have a job. A lot of people don't work. But the, if you choose to do a job, my daddy always told me, do a job big or small, do it right or not at all, right? And I'll live by that to this day. But if whatever you choose to be the president of the United States or you choose to be a daycare worker, whatever it, you know, the, you chose that job. And if you don't like the job, quit your job, right? And, but if you have the job, whatever job it may be, the, the do it to the best of your ability. And a definition I've always used, a professional is someone who does their best even when they don't feel like it. Well, we're going out to Alabama and these two, I'm sorry, let me foreign. These two and I'll never call them anything else. They have been sentenced to prison time after they pled guilty to cruelly abusing young children in their care at the Happy Hearts Christian Academy Daycare center in Alabama. That is correct. But wait till I tell you what they did. So Kaylee Gilly and Megan Coker were taken into custody and booked at the Dale County Jail on multiple charges on October 10th of 2024. And at the time. Gilly was charged with two counts of torture slash willful abuse of a child that was not in her family, and nine counts of aggravated child abuse. And while Gilly faced four counts of torture and willful abuse and eight counts of aggravated child abuse. And according to Alabama state law, the first charge is a class C felony defined as a responsible person who shall torture willfully abuse, willfully mistreat, cruelly be or otherwise willfully maltreat any child under the age of 18 or on conviction. Now, aggravated child abuse is listed as a class B felony. So on Monday, January 5, the victim's family members testified in court about Gilly and Coker's harmful behavior. Witnesses claimed that some of the children who had been mistreated were too young to speak and could not tell anyone about what they had been experiencing. And this. This according to reports from wtvy. They said one child who has not been publicly named by authorities was said to have received the majority of the abuse. During the testimonies. A mother additionally told the court that she watched video footage of the woman taking turns hitting her child. Take a turn, y'. All. It's sport. The child then experienced bruising and swelling from the attacks and was referred to the hospital. Okay, so they weren't just play tapping her, knocking the out of her or him. This led to the local police investigation into the alleged abuse. They said officers met with the child's parents who reported that the injuries were discovered after picking the child up from daycare. And according to Police Chief John Crawford, the parents said the bruises were not there earlier that day. Well, other parents said their kids are still emotionally affected by the abuse, experiencing symptoms including night terrors and struggling with feeling comfortable in new daycare environments. Well, it's called ptsd. So both Coker and Gilly took a blind plea agreement, meaning there was no prearranged sentencing deal worked into the agreement. And judge William Fillmore ordered each woman to serve five years behind bars and an additional three years of probation. Neither woman woman will be eligible for parole or early release. So they got to do a hard five, I guess. Let's take a plea. And five years for taking turns beating a kid that can't even talk. Happy Hearts Christian Academy daycare has reportedly been closed since Gilly and Coker's arrest. Well, I imagine they would. The Alabama. Alabama Department of Public Health reports that child abuse cases increased over a three year period. Back in 2015, there were 8,004, 466 child maltreatment victims. By 2018, the number tragically grew to 12,158. And as of 2019, the total number of child maltreatment victims was listed as 10.7 per 1,000 children, with child fatalities listed at 3.1 per 100,000 children. So he you know that's fucked up man. That's the cases they know about.
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So you can move forward with a little less weight.
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I bet you it's 10 times that. Throwing shade on Alabama I'm showing throwing shade on child abuse. Child abuse sucks. You do it, you deserve way worse than five years in prison. I mean it's just crazy. All right y', all, I guess, you know, get sucked in these vortexes. Vortexes of these cases and, and this one is a twofer. It's time for effed up professionals. It's time for worldwide crime. This store actually came out earlier and I almost did it but I'm glad I waited because now they have more information on it. We're going across the pond and oh, this is going to make some people mad. A child rapist who was hired by the Metropolitan Police had his rejection overturned by vetting panel aiming to improve diversity. Yeah, listen to this. Cliff Mitchell, who carried out a campaign of rape on two victims over the period of nine years was among the Metropolitan police officers who were not properly checked. The 26 year old joined the force after the panel overturned a decision to reject him from the police despite him having a previous accusation of raping a child. Y', all, I used to do backgrounds for Louisiana State Police and, and would get assigned that you wouldn't believe the people will confess to and especially at the hands of a skilled investigator. Right but the we got to confess to, there were certain limits on what you could have done and can't done and in a certain amount of time. And you are automatically disqualified from the process. You get disqualified no matter if you're white or black or yellow or green or purple or man or female or whatever, but not over here. And so I mean he had the previous accusation of raping a child. I would have known about that if I was doing this investigation and I would have questioned the out of him about it. And then, then I would have made my recommendation to the board. They said he was convicted In May of 2020 four of 13 counts of rape, including six counts of rape against a child. So he's raping a young animal or of age. Now in the latest, this is they say they're calling the latest in a series of blunders by the New Scotland Yard as details revealed today that Mitchell was, was among 25 officers given a second chance who went on to commit criminal offenses or misconduct, including violence and sex attacks and drug use. In a review published this morning found that the Metropolitan Police failed to carry out a range of vital background and reference checks on more than 20,000 applicants between 2013 and 2023. And senior officers at the Metropolitan Police Department chose not to meet national guidelines amid a scramble to find 4,557 recruits in a three and a half year period. Well, let me tell you about that. The state police, when they have, they call them classes, they, they have to have a certain amount first of all, they have to have money in the budget to hold the classes or an academy. And then you got to go through, it's an exhaustive process, the background process and then the physical test process and the psychological process. And if you make it that far, to me, the, the polygraph process. And so it's, it costs a lot of money. But then the, the, you know, they go before the board and all that and then they have to have enough people to put through a class. They're not sending two people through a six months class. Right. Well, the Metropolitan Police needed 4,557 so they said it will let them all through. So the deviations from standard practice meant thousands of references were not checked, y'. All. We used to go to people's next door neighbors and talk to them, to every job they had and talk to them. I mean you took your job serious, right? So they said the thousands of references were not checked and shortcuts in vetting led to recruitment and retention of some officers and staff who should not have been in the force and contributed to police perpetrated harm and damaged public trust. In the last decade, the Met, as they call the Metropolitan Police, has been hit with a series of scandals involving servant officers who had slipped through the safety net, y'. All. They have the process in place for a reason anyway. This includes Wayne Couzens, who went on to murder Sarah Everard, and David Carrick, who was given 37 life sentences for his crime crimes. An inquiry in the Cousins found there were red flags about his unsuitability for office, which went unnoticed. Well unnoticed or just unheeded. Meanwhile, Kerouac was not properly vetted in 2017, with checks failing to reveal an allegation of domestic abuse against him. Now, a report on vetting in 2022 that examined eight forces raised a series of concerns, including a failure to check references as well as issues with vetting. The forces inspected at the time were the Metropolitan Police, Kent Police, the Civil Nuclear Consular, Cumberia, Cumbria, South Wales, Nottinghamshire, Dorset, Endeavon and Cornwall. Cornwall. Now, the Home Secretary Shabana Mahomoud said abandon vetting checks on officers was a dereliction of the mets duty to keep London safe. Londoners rightfully expect officers to undergo robust checks so that the brightest and the best, not criminals, are policing our streets. I have asked the Chief Inspector a con Mary to carry out an inspection as I seek to restore trust in the force's ability to protect and serve the public. Well, that's the. That's a hell of a task you got for you, sir. But speaking about today's report on GB News, former Met Police detective Peter Bileski said Britain's have paid the price for appalling Met Police vetting processes. He said. I'm saddened for the really good police officers, those who join that want to serve the public, that want to help people in their moment of need and then they have to end up working alongside monsters like the. That and I agree, sir. The. The to give all cops bad names and continue. But there's one word this morning that's missing from Shabana Mahamud's understandable outrage from the words of senior police officers and of course the inspector who are going to do a thorough inquiry. There's one important word that's missing and that word is accountability. Who is going to be held accountable for making such dreadful decisions to allow these people in? Who's responsible for lowering the bar? Who's made that policy? That senior police officer needs to be named, shamed and sent packing from the police? Well, I agree with you on that one. The Assistant Commissioner Rachel Williams said in publishing this report today, we are being open and transparent about past vetting and recruitment practices that led in some cases to unsuitable people joining the Met. We have been honest with Londoners on many occasions about previous shortcomings in our professional standards approach. This review is part of our ongoing work to demand the highest standards across the Met so the public can have trust and confidence in our officers. We found that some historical practices did not meet the strengthened hiring and vetting standards we have today. We identified these issues ourselves and have fixed them quickly while making sure any risk to the public has been properly and effectively managed. It is important to highlight that the Met recruits hundreds of officers and staff every year, the overwhelmingly majority of exemplary character who are dedicated to protecting the public. Well, the chairwoman of the Metropolitan Police Federation, Paula Dove, said today's report illustrates a ferocious situation in which hitting a a numerical target of recruits has taken precedent over the normal checks and balances. The good, brave and hard working colleagues we represent are the first to say that the small minority of officers who are not fit to serve should not be in the police service. And I could not agree more. Oh God, bad cops suck, right? They just suck. But the they have the policy and procedures in place on the background checks. They do them for a reason, they do psychological tests for a reason and it's because they put them in place and they've vetted out people and look I know this for a fact. Kicked out people out of the process who went on to departments who didn't have the processes in place and they up committed crimes. So anyway, let me see, let me give you another one. Oh speaking of hashtag just for Bradley and hashtag just Freo and so many people say oh the cops will never get touched and blah blah blah. I'm not saying they did anything wrong y' all but that's the common misconception. Every just like this past story every good cop hates a bad cop and they are breaking the law one day hopefully they'll be caught and they'll be dealt with. So we are going to do another it's time for effed up professionals going out to close to Waco Texas and Hamilton county and I had been there. I went to look and see where the Branch Davidian compound was when I was in polygraph school. Not a whole lot out by Waco and good people but it's Hamilton county and the sheriff, the high sheriff of Hamilton county near Waco was arrested on January 7 and charged with multiple Counts related to the sale of counterfeit weight loss drugs in the county. And this according to KCN TV Sheriff Jason Bradley. Bolton is charged with abuse of official capacity, tampering with government records, filling a report of felony and making a false statement to law enforcement and most of the charges of misdemeanors except for the tampering with government records which is a second degree felony. Now Bolton is accused of failing or refusing to arrest a woman named Erica Bedell on a charge of practicing medicine without a license causing harm. Bedell was arrested in September on felony charges related to selling counterfeit GLP1 weight loss drugs and fell into a respitel. Bolton failed to prevent the delivery of dangerous drugs and failed to report the commission of a felony that could have resulted in bodily injury or death. And it's according what the authorities told the local kcn. Bolton is also accused of falsifying community service records for Vidal on five separate occasions stating that Bedell had worked community service hours she didn't actually complete. Get the fuck out of here. It must have been a sexual relationship. Bolton bonded out after being booked into the Corral county jail. And that's all there is on that. But it just goes to show you people, like the good book says, everything done in darkness comes to light. I like to believe that.
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Woody Overton
Or light when you get to wherever you're going, it's going to be be light's going to shine now and justice will prevail. Hashtag just for Bradley. Hashtag just for a. I know y' all get sick of me saying it. These are real people that are dead and they have real loved ones. Hashtag just for Haley. Listen to the episode tomorrow Miss Barbara and how we're going to move forward with this case. And as always, hashtag just from this barber blight and 313 RLRC tip. And I don't have anything else for today but tell you thank you and I love and appreciate each and every one of you. Thank you Patreon and convicts. Love you, love you, love you. And I'm Woody Overton. Sending me back next week. But I'm Woody Overton, you host a true crime time for this Thursday. Love you. Holler at you later. Peace.
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