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Hello everybody and welcome to this episode of True Crime time for Monday, January 19, 2026. And I am Cindy Overton and I'm riding, flying, whatever solo today without my I can't call him a co host because he's the true host. I'm the co. So without the host, Woody Overton. He is very busy. I live with the man and I actually know what is going on and all the work that he's putting into things and all of the tips he's getting and all of the screenshots he's getting of people not saying very nice things or doing very nice things. But I will leave it at that. But I do want to recognize that today is Martin Luther King Jr. Day, which is an important day where we encourage kindness, equality in treating others with respect. And if you are so lucky to be off today, I hope you get to do what you want to do. Whether it's relax, catch up on things around the house, catch up on True Crime Time 4 or Real Life. Real crime. Maybe go back and listen to a few other episodes that maybe you just started listening with justice for Bradley and you haven't had the opportunity to hear Woody from the beginning. I would encourage you to go back and start with episode one David and Christina Constance, I think you will get hooked. And I know we have quite a few new listeners. We got the pleasure of meeting a few people a few weeks ago and then we got to see them again this weekend and they let us know how cool it was to listen and they are enjoying the podcast. And so thank you to those of you that are new and old and we truly appreciate you. Please do not forget to like and share the podcast. That is how we get justice. So speaking of getting justice, as always, we would love justice for Bradley, justice for AO, and justice for Haley. This last week we dropped a lot of posts for the Go the GoFundMe that Ms. Barbara Johnson has set up in an effort to have a independent forensic review of Haley's case. There are GoFundMe posts all over our social media in our app and Woody did ask me to give the website the GoFundMe page on here. So I'm, I'm actually going to say it, but it will be in our show notes where you can just click and go and. Or if you can follow along with this, I'm going to do it. So it's actually GoFundMe 667-D-0-B365. But again, this will be and is in our show notes and it's all over our social media. It is pinned to the top of pages. You, if you go to our app, it is on the home screen carousel. So what I mean by that is you go to the app and at the top of the screen, a lot of people don't notice this sometimes, but there are different alerts that pop up at the very top. And so one of them is like the awards that Woody's won. And then it scrolls to the tip line information which is 313RLRCTIP. And then you get an alert about how to become a convict. And then you will also see the link. You just click that screen. It's a green screen with Haley's picture. You click on that, it will take you straight to the GoFundMe and we thank each and every one of you that has given. I would love to read all of the names. Most people have put their names, but they are putting it on the GoFundMe site. And I don't know if they would want me to read them out to the public. But to each and every one of you, we are so very grateful. We are hoping, Ms. Barbara Johnson is hoping to get $10,000. And so far, in a matter of a few days, we are at 3,083 and that is because of you lifers. You always step up when asked. You always trust in the process. You always are there to back us, especially when we need it. And we are so, so, so very grateful. I know Ms. Barbara Johnson is blown away. I know that Haley's looking down on us. So grateful because I know that she wants her mama to be able to rest and Haley is in heaven and she is no more suffering on this earth. But she does not want her mama and her sister suffering and all of her friends and loved ones. So let's get answers and let's get justice for for Haley and let's show the Cobb County DA how it's done. So with that being said, I am actually going to start on some stories that Woody has sent sent me and.
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It'S time for Worldwide Crime Foreign.
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We're going to korea. The title of this is Life sentence upheld for For Elementary School teacher who murdered first Grader A Dijon elementary school teacher convicted of murdering a first grade student was sentenced to life in prison on appeal, upholding the lower court's ruling, this just happened two days ago. The Dejon High Court on Friday dismissed appeals filed by both prosecutors and the defendant Mayong Jaewon and upheld her life sentence. The court also maintained a 30 year order for the attachment of a location tracking electronic device. Prosecutors had again sought the death penalty during the final hearing of the Appeals trial on December 17th of 2025, as they had in their initial trial. The grounds cited by the prosecution and defense appeared to have been fully considered during the initial sentencing and this is what the court said in its ruling. There have been no new circumstances since the first trial that would justify reconsideration, so we reject both sides claims of inappropriate sentence. The defense's argument that Myong was mentally and emotionally impaired at the time of the crime was also dismissed. The court stated the defendant deliberately selected her victim, prepared the murder weapon in advance and took actions after the crime to avoid detection. These facts indicate that she retained the ability to distinguish right from wrong and control her actions even if there were some mental or emotional impairment. The gravity of the case does not warrant a lighter sentence. Regarding the prosecution's call for the death penalty, the court said the first trial carefully considered all sentencing factors and acknowledged that capital punishment is an extreme penalty that deprives an individual of life. Obviously we know that instead of execution, the court chose to isolate the defendant. They chose to isolate her so that she could be isolated from society permanently to allow for lifelong reflection and remorse. The decision does not fall outside the bounds of reasonable sentencing. That again is what the court said. Myong was convicted of luring a seven year old, Kim Ha no, a student at the elementary school where she worked into an audio visual room on February 10th of 2025. And she did this under the pretense of giving her a book. There. Myong fatally stabbed her with the weapon she had prepared in advance. In the initial trial, the court described the case as unprecedented and which they go on to describe it. An elementary school teacher brutally murdering a 7 year old student at the very school where she taught and emphasized the nationwide shock and outrage it provoked. The prosecution had called for the death penalty, arguing that life imprisonment was too lenient, while Myong's defense argued she was mentally impaired and both sides appealed the sentence. So I don't know. What do you think about that? Do you think it was enough? Do you. Do you think she's going to actually live there and. And live her days reflecting what she did wrong? I'm sorry, I unfortunately do not.
Woody Overton
It's time for family matters.
Cindy Overton
Well, I'm going to take us now to California where we have a mother accused of performing an exorcism on her three year old daughter. And that exorcism killed her. Claudia Hernandez, who was 29 years old, remains behind bars for the 2021 death of Arlie Naomi Proctor. Arlie was killed on a church altar in San Jose in 2021 during a exorcism because her mother, uncle and grandfather were convinced she was was possessed by demons. Prosecutors say the attack happened over about 20 hours, ending at Iglesia Apostles e Prophetus. And at that time it was run by Hernandez's father and co defendant, Rene Hernandez, who was 63. Hernandez's brother, Renee Aaron Hernandez Santos, who is 23, is also accused of participating in the exorcism. And all three face the charge of assault on a child causing death. But now Hernandez's attorneys are requesting a judge dismiss the case under the Racial Justice Act. According to a filing obtained by the CW affiliate Kayron, the RGA passed in 2020 seeks to eliminate racial bias within the judicial system. And a violation of the RGA can occur when someone in the criminal justice system has exhibited bias or animus towards the defendant because of the defendant's race, ethnicity or regional or national origin. Attorneys for the defendant argue in a 109 page motion that prosecutors and police showed biased against her religion and national origin. Lawyers reportedly wrote their clients were performing a religious ritual that was a genuine effort of faith healing with no ulterior criminal motive.
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Space80@Talkspace.Com the family reportedly practiced Pentecostal Christianity and the elder Hernandez was a pastor at their church. Those practicing the religion have this is a quote, an absolute belief in divine supernatural intervention. This is what the motion says. It goes on. The pastor, according to his attorney, has participated in similar exercises on people possessed in his native country of El Salvador. As an adult preaching, he witnessed instances of possession, including a woman who had gone to the United States, had a spell cast on her and she went back to El Salvador possessed. And Renee was one of 12 men who conducted a prayer ceremony to liberate her. And at the end of the six hour prayer ceremony, a crocodile 12 to 18 inches in length emerged from her and it was caught and burned. And this is what is in the defendant's motion. An attorney for the elder Hernandez wrote that his client was practicing his faith by doing his best to protect his granddaughter from harm and tragically failing in that endeavor. Defense attorneys reportedly wrote that the police expressed bias by calling the church makeshift while questioning whether the family had psychological problems or mental health defects and a judge will hear arguments about possible RJA violations on January 22. Claudia Hernandez claimed to have previously received a vision from God stating that God was going to Arley. She also said that two weeks before the girl's death, she had a vision of dropping the child off at the gates of heaven and Claudia said she thought, okay baby, you have to go. She has shown no remorse for the violent assault she committed against Arlene and she does not believe what she did was wrong. And Deputy District Attorney Rebecca Wise emphasized the brutal and protracted nature of Proctor's death. During the assault, Arlie Doe fought for her life as the three defendants, all trusted adults, forcibly grabbed her by her neck, her torso, her back and legs and smothered her around 7pm Defendant 2, which was the uncle, knelt beside the victim who was lying on the floor and he placed one hand on the victim's chest and one hand on her back. He applied pressure to the victim and maintained the pressure for approximately 10 minutes. He stated the victim was alive at the beginning of this and he closed his eyes to pray and upon opening his eyes he believed the victim had died. Remind you this victim is his niece and she's a young girl they continued to pray and did not perform any life saving measures on the victim. And and all three adults are charged with felony child abuse causing death.
Woody Overton
It's time for effed up professionals.
Cindy Overton
We're going to Dallas for this next story and I have it. As a effed up professional, the profession is a rapper and the rapper's name is Pooh Shiesty and he is back behind bars and he was just released three months ago. Pooh is held in Dallas, Texas and he was born by the name Lontrell Danelle Williams Jr. He's an aspiring rapper and he was released from federal prison in October. He served three years for conspiracy to possess a firearm in furtherance of violent and drug trafficking crimes. He actually had an early release. So this 26 year old Memphis native still had two more years away from freedom. The moment he stepped outside there was the rapper started to flirt with Cardi B. He wrote to her, he said I love you and he did this on one of her Instagram posts. And he also tried to do a shout out at Cardi B from behind the prison walls. However, Cardi she ignored him. But now he's back in federal custody, seated like he never left. And nobody seems to know what new crime he might have committed during the short break when he was free. And now the earliest he could be released is April of 2027. And apparently his fans couldn't believe it. Many took to X to show solidarity with the rapper who was initially independent before signing with Gucci Mane's 1017 record label in April of 2020. And he had first been arrested in 2021 after he dropped stacks of cash at the scene of a shooting outside a Miami strip Club in 2020. Police having monitored his Instagram page and seen him flashing money and video zoomed in on the money and realized the serial numbers matched those on a CA on the cash he dropped outside the club. So he pleaded guilty in January of 2022 to the October 2020 shooting incident and he was faced with the certainty of living the rest of his life in jail. But he accepted a plea deal for five years behind bars and he got out for three months and went right back in wonder if he thought that Cardi B was going to help him. Let's keep on going.
Woody Overton
It's time for family matters.
Cindy Overton
You know, Woody sends me my stories. I don't know why he does this to me. We're going to Florida and I have a Florida mom who's been found guilty over the death of her 10 year old son who she Abandoned at the hospital while medical staff performed CPR on his beaten body. Kimberly Mills, who is 38 years old, will spend the rest of her life behind bars after entering a no contest plea to first degree murder and aggravated child abuse. And she had other charges over the death of her son, Xavier Williams. Under the terms of her plea agreement, she must provide testimony against her boyfriend, 37 year old Andre Walker, who's not the boy's dad. She has to provide this testimony during his trial that's scheduled for later this year. Authorities believe he was the main predator of abuse in the case. Mills and Walker brought her son to the hospital on February 22 of 2025 following his cardiac arrest. Medical personnel found extensive bruising across his body, multiple burn marks and signs suggesting potential sexual abuse. Both Kimberly and the male left the hospital after learning that law enforcement was responding. They left when Kimberly's son was receiving CPR in the emergency room. The mom came back to the hospital after a short period of time with another child, but Walker didn't return, according to police. Mills reportedly declined to provide authorities with details about Walker's location or even his identity. She's protecting him over her son. She eventually disclosed Walker's name to the Department of Children and Families, prompting officials to issue an arrest warrant, police said. Detectives. Detectives conducted a search of Mills's residence, gathering pertinent pieces of evidence and confirming Walker's identity. After that, he was arrested and both the mom and Walker have remained in jail since their arrest. Poor Xavier was kept on life support for approximately a month before passing away on March 21st of 2025. And Xavier's father, Kennel Williams, described the devastating impact of losing his son. He says, I have sleepless nights. I got pictures of the family that I just can't delete out of my phone. I just can't. I'm not talking about pictures of my son. These pictures are her, he said, gesturing towards meals. In this case, we weren't married and to see that Xavier was taken away from us, it's hard. It's very hard to cope with. It's very hard to even function at work. It's just hard to live sometimes without end. Mills's lawyer stated his client entered the guilty plea for multiple reasons, the most significant being she did not want to to re traumatize her surviving son by forcing him to testify against her. And Bill Gladson, who is the state attorney for the fifth Judicial Circuit, emphasized that the plea agreement focuses on ensuring accountability for Xavier's death. Mills plea, which includes truthful testimony against her co defendant strengthens her ability to pursue that goal and ensures the full story is brought before the court. And in doing so, Mills will spend the rest of her life incarcerated. I have no doubt she will think of Xavier every waking day and regret the pain and suffering she made him endure while she repeatedly endures her own. And Walker is scheduled to appear in Court on January 20, which is tomorrow.
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It's time for family matters.
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So now.
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It'S time for worldwide crime.
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We're going to London where we have a man who fatally stabbed his wife and manipulated their young child in a calculated attempt to escape justice. And he's due for sentencing. Robert Rhodes, who is 52 years old, killed his wife dawn in the kitchen of their family home in 2016. The attack followed the breakdown of their marriage. Exasperated by his discovery of her affair with a colleague, Rhodes meticulously planned the crime involving their child, who was under the age of 10. In his scheme in the aftermath, he fabricated a story and he alleged he inflicted the fatal wound during a self defense struggle. And this deception initially proved successful, resulting in his acquittal for murder at his Old bailey trial in 2017. But four years later, his child revealed the truth to a therapist. And the truth was that they had been manipulated into supporting Rhodes lies as part of his plan to get rid of mummy. He faced a rare double jeopardy second murder trial and was found guilty by a jury in December last year. Thanks to compelling new evidence from the child at Inter London Crown Court on Friday, Rhodes will be jailed for life when he is sentenced by Mrs. Justice Ellen Boggan. As well as the murder conviction, Rhodes was also found guilty of two counts of perjury for false evidence at his Old Bailey trial in the family courts in 2018. And perverting the course of justice and child cruelty, the murder that happened on June 2nd of 2016 when the couple's marriage had hit rock bottom.
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Ann Rhodes had filed for divorce. Police received a 999 call from the child who could not be named for legal reasons and this call came in at 7:34pm during which Rhodes said his wife had attacked him and their child with a knife. And Dawn Rhodes was found lying on the kitchen floor at their home in Red Hill, Surrey with her throat cut and her husband began to mount his bogus defense. He claimed to officers that his wife had hit him twice on the back of the head and later in his trial he described her coming at him flipping like a hulk. And so to back up his claims, Rose had a self inflicted cut and he actually cut his own child's arm and wounds he blamed on his wife. And Rhodes thought he got away with it and actually Kind of did. And he was acquitted by a jury in 2017. But his plan started to unravel when the child spoke to his therapist about being manipulated and then went to the police to reveal the truth. Rhodes had coached the youngster in the aftermath of the stabbing to support his version of events. When he was arrested for murder again, he tellingly told officers he, quote unquote, thought this would come back to bite me. His acquittal on the murder charge was quashed and the Court of Appeal and the Crown Prosecution Service was granted permission by senior judges to bring the case to second trial. Pivotal to the new case was the evidence of the child, who disclosed how Rhodes had maintained contact while on bail in 2016 and 2017. Giving him instructions or them instructions to stick to the plan. They're saying them because they're not disclosing whether it was boy or girl. But anyway, Rhodes continued to manipulate and groom the child, including hiding a phone at his mother's house on which she would leave messages for the child, reminding them about the agreement they made. The child had been instructed by their father to tell Dawn Rhodes to close her eyes and wait to be handed a picture. The child then left the room and Rhodes came at his wife with a knife as she stood with her eyes closed waiting for a picture. And she was obviously unaware of the impending attack. And this new evidence that came from the child was profoundly shocking and showed just how much careful planning Robert Rhodes had put into murdering his wife. And that was said by Libby Clark from cps. He exploited a young child before the murder, explaining his plan to cover up the truth and make it appear as if Don had attacked him so that he could claim that he acted in self defense. And this includes Rhodes self inflicting injuries and the injuries on the child's arm. He continued with his web of lies over the intervening years. It is thanks to the immense bravery of the child for coming forward to explain exactly what happened that night that Robert Rhodes has finally been brought to justice for the murder of Dawn. Something he mistakenly thought he was going to get away with. None of us can even begin to imagine what Rhodes was had put the child through over the period of many years. Now though, as a result of their evidence, dawn can now be remembered by everyone in the right way as a victim of her violent partner. And Detective Chief Inspector Kimball Eady from the Surrey and Sussex Police Major Crime Team said during the first trial, dawn was portrayed as the villain, but had actually been the victim of domestic abuse and coercive control at the hands of her husband for years. And the fact that Rhodes not only murdered his wife in cold blood, but then manipulated and groomed his own child to play a part in his evil scheme and cover up what he had done is simply despicable. Not only did he take a life, he irreparably damaged another, as well as the lives of everyone else who loved Dawn. Rhodes, who's from Withley, denied all of the charges against him at the second trial, and he will be handed an automatic life sentence for murder. And the judge will determine on Friday how many years he must serve before having the chance of release on license. And I hope that is never, ever, ever, ever. So this is an interesting story. We have a daughter who forgave her mother and cousin's killer, and she even forgave him so much that she hired him. And then that same man murdered her. Sally Snowden McKay, who was 75 years old, and her cousin, Memphis blues guitarist Joseph Lee Baker, who was 52 years old, were brutally killed on their stunning estate at Horseshoe Lake in Arkansas in 1996. And Sally had a daughter, and she's a grieving daughter, named Martha. And in an extraordinary act of compassion, she actually befriended the murderer, Travis Lewis, while he was in prison. Despite his heinous crime, Martha gave the young man a second chance because he was 17 at the time of the crime. That's why he's called a young man. As he had pleaded guilty but never confessed, however, Martha's act of kindness would prove fatal. Having come to terms with her grief, Martha decided to reopen the house where her mother was murdered. She transformed the mansion into a luxury bed and breakfast and wedding venue. And she turned the scene of the crime into a beautiful place as Snowden House. Martha supported Lewis's early release from prison in 2018 and even discreetly offered him a job at Snowden House. Lewis maintained that someone else was responsible. He never confessed. Longtime friend Frank Boyd told Martha he didn't think befriending Lewis was a good idea. But she didn't. She didn't answer me. Lewis worked on the property for 18 months until her decision backfired for the first time when she thought Lewis might have been guilty of the the theft of $10,000 stored in the house for the sale of a chandelier. Martha knew he had been at the house the day that that money was stolen. And then, tragically, Martha was found stabbed and bludgeoned to death at the top of the stairs of the house on March 25th of 2020. And she was 63 years old. Police also found a cloth bag nearby containing several valuables and a bloody kitchen knife. Crittenden County Chief Investigator Todd Grooms said it was determined that he intended to steal these items. However, it was not determined whether his intentions were to burglarize McKay's home and she was killed in the process, or if his intention was to murder. McKay then opted to steal the items. A manhunt revealed that her murderer had leapt from the second story window when the police arrived, sprinted across the expansive lawn and into the lake where he drowned. According to a post on the sheriff's office fake Facebook page, police identified these this is in quotes a possible suspect who jumped from an upstairs window and ran to a vehicle. Then he drove across the yard and got stuck in the yard at the Snowden house. The suspect then jumped from the car and ran and jumped into the lake and he was observed going under the water and never came back up. A toxicology report discovered a mix of drugs in his system when his body was retrieved. And Martha's sister said, we are all just in disbelief. Goodness gracious, you think you're doing a good thing. Forgive. Give the man a job. Reminds me of, reminds me of. I guess it's was told to me as a joke, but the snake that offers to give the rock or the alligator or the snake or the whatever that offers to give a frog a ride across the pond because there's not lily pads for it to hop across. And they're like, come on, we won't hurt you. And the frog initially gives in to the snake or the crocodile, whichever it was, and they get across the pond, they get a ride across the pond and once they get across, the snake or the alligator, whatever it was, bit the frog. And the frog said like, well, you said you weren't going to hurt me. Why would you do that? And they said, well, I'm a snake or alligator, whatever it was, that's what I do. So we've got a story coming out of New York City and we were at a sentencing hearing for Daniel hyden. He was 46 years old. And in the sentencing hearing he apologized to his victims loved ones and described the crash as an accident. So this is what happened. There was a speeding drunk driver who killed four people after plowing his pickup truck into a crowded New York City park on the 4th of July in 2024. And he's finally learned his fate. Daniel Hyden, 46 years old, was sentenced to 24 years to life in prison following his conviction on charges of second degree murder and More Manhattan District Attorney Alvin L. Bragg Jr. Said on Friday, January 16. While this prison sentence will not reverse the fatalities, injuries and trauma, I hope this sentencing brings a measure of comfort for those who were impacted by this mass casualty event. Daniel Hyden, the speeding drunk driver who killed four people after plowing his pickup truck into the crowded New York City park on the 4th of July, has now learned his fate. Sentenced to 24 years to life in prison, he was convicted in November of 2025 on four counts of second degree murder, four counts of second degree murder assault, three counts of third degree assault and one count of aggravated vehicular homicide after the bench trial. So on July 4th of 2024, Haydn, who was intoxicated, ran a stop sign and sped through a construction zone in Manhattan's Lower East Side at speeds of up to 54 miles per hour, which were nearly double the typical 25 mile per hour speed limit. And then he crashed into a chain link fence and into a crowd at Corlear's Hook Park. Hiden had fully pressed down on his gas pedal and did not hit his brakes until 1/2 second before the final crash and because of that, four people were trapped underneath the pickup truck with seven others struck and injured by the truck and debris. Lucille Pickney, 59 years old, Herman Pickney, 38 years old, and Anna Morell, 43 years old, were pronounced dead at the scene while Emily ruiz, who was 30 years old, died five days later. Hydin worked as a substance abuse counselor and wrote a book about sobriety titled the Sober Addict, and prosecutors actually cited his background during his trial as evidence that Hydin was aware of his actions that night. Hiden said he had broken his sobriety after his sister was killed by a drunk driver in New Jersey in 2021 and at the time of the his crash In July of 2024, he was preparing to speak at that driver sentencing. What kind of human being would put other human beings through the same thing I was going through? Hayden asked police. Body camera footage showed Hiden had been denied entry to a boat party for being too intoxicated prior to the crash. While this prison sentence will not reverse the fatalities, injuries and trauma, I hope this sentencing brings a measure of comfort for those who were impacted by this mass casualty event. That was said by Manhattan District Attorney Alvin L. Bragg Jr. If you are intoxicated, do not get behind the will. It risks the lives of others and you will be prosecuted, he goes on to say. The victim's loved ones shared statements inside and outside the courtroom on Friday, a relative of the pygmies echoed the arguments put forward by prosecutors. Daniel made the conscious choice to drink and drive, fully aware of the risk, fully aware of the devastation it would cause. Helena Herrera, which was Ruiz's best friend, said the loss is still hard to believe, but she's glad that at least now there's some sense of justice. Goes on to say it doesn't help much, doesn't bring anything back, but it's good to have it over with. So I'm happy for that. During the sentencing hearing, Haydn apologized to the victim's loved ones and described the crash as an accident. You get in the car, drinking and driving, it's not an accident, he goes on to say. I'm processing how deeply disturbed and deeply hurt I was and still am. And I'm still processing the amount of people I hurt with my actions. Well, that is for sure. So on that I'm going to end today's episode for True crime. Time for January 19th, 2026. And please look in the show notes for the GoFundMe if you've listened to this podcast for a while, you know that Woody does not, has not in the past promoted GoFundMe at all. He was burned on one. He was very upset by it. That's a long story, but this one we know is legitimate. This one we know exactly what's going to happen with the money and it is going to help get justice for Haley. And I'm not sure if he'll be back tomorrow, but if not, I will definitely be here and I'll keep keeping you up to date on crimes past and current and I hope you have a wonderful Monday. And if Woody was here, he would say best week ever starts now. And until next time, y' all have a great day.
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Host: Cindy Overton (solo, without Woody Overton this episode)
Theme: Justice Updates, Child Abuse, Murder & Deadly Drunk Driving
This episode, hosted solo by Cindy Overton, delivers a series of recent and ongoing true crime stories from around the world, focusing on cases of child abuse, murder, and other disturbing crimes, with an overarching emphasis on advocacy and justice for victims. Cindy also provides heartfelt commentary on the importance of community support in seeking justice, including updates on GoFundMe initiatives and calls for action.
“You always step up when asked. You always trust in the process... We are so, so, so very grateful.” – Cindy Overton (06:30)
Segment begins at [08:30]
“Do you think she's going to actually live there and live her days reflecting what she did wrong? I'm sorry, I unfortunately do not.” (12:47)
Begins at [13:22]
“Their client was performing a religious ritual that was a genuine effort of faith healing with no ulterior criminal motive.”
Begins at [26:04]
“He got out for three months and went right back in. Wonder if he thought that Cardi B was going to help him.” – Cindy Overton (28:39)
Begins at [29:23]
“It's very hard to even function at work. It's just hard to live sometimes without [Xavier].” – Xavier’s father Kennel Williams (32:50)
Begins at [34:41]
“He exploited a young child before the murder, explaining his plan to cover up the truth…and make it appear as if Don had attacked him so that he could claim that he acted in self defense.” – Libby Clark, CPS (41:11)
Begins at [44:20]
“You think you’re doing a good thing...Reminds me of...the snake that offers to give the frog a ride across the pond...they said, well, I'm a snake...that's what I do.” – Cindy Overton (47:39)
Begins at [49:00]
“Daniel made the conscious choice to drink and drive, fully aware of the risk, fully aware of the devastation it would cause.” – Victim’s relative at sentencing (51:57) “If you are intoxicated, do not get behind the wheel. It risks the lives of others and you will be prosecuted.” – Manhattan DA Alvin Bragg Jr. (50:44)
Cindy Overton delivers the stories with a mix of empathy, candor, and critical reflection. She offers both facts and personal commentary, maintaining the podcast’s trademark blend of raw honesty and emotional resonance.
This episode of True Crime Time For on Real Life Real Crime delivers a hard-hitting lineup of real-world crime stories—ranging from shaken faith in the justice system, the complexities of family betrayal and forgiveness, to the horrific outcomes of substance abuse and domestic violence. Cindy keeps listeners engaged with insightful commentary and a persistent call to action: support victims, demand justice, and learn from these disturbing but vital stories.