True Crime Time For January 21, 2025 | Fundraising for Justice, Cold Cases & Exploitation Crimes

Summary

Real Life Real Crime – “True Crime Time For January 21, 2025 | Fundraising for Justice, Cold Cases & Exploitation Crimes”

Original Air Date: January 21, 2026
Hosts: Woody Overton & Cindy Overton

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Episode Overview

In this episode of “True Crime Time For” — a special segment of the “Real Life Real Crime” podcast — Woody Overton and Cindy Overton tackle multiple issues ranging from fundraising for justice in cold cases, high-profile fraud, and exploitation, to stunning examples of professional misconduct. Their trademark banter, sense of justice, and first-hand law enforcement insight give a unique, authentic, and sometimes wild ride through these stories.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Fundraising for Justice – Community, Cold Cases, and Advocacy

Timestamps: 03:44–09:35

• GoFundMe for Justice: Cindy updates listeners on the progress of a GoFundMe set up for the case of Haley, expressing gratitude for even the smallest donations. The fund aims to hire an expert from the Evidence Room to reconstruct what is believed to be Haley's murder scene.

  • Quote (Cindy, 04:16): “If you haven’t donated — and you can donate anything…I know we will be so very grateful for a dollar, whatever it is, anything that we can do to get justice for Haley.”

• Woody’s Commitment to Justice: Woody reaffirms the show’s ongoing efforts in the cold cases of Haley, Bradley, and AO.

  • Quote (Woody, 06:26): “Hashtag just Bradley. Hashtag just for AO... Call them in, people. Keep it... I know the case is being worked and I’m thankful for that. But besides, by us.”

• Call for Useful Tips: Woody requests that tipsters include a summary and context with their submissions, especially when sending lengthy recordings.

  • Quote (Woody, 06:54): “If you’re going to send me two hours of recordings…please give me a brief summary and who it is that you recorded so I don’t have to listen for two hours in case it’s not pertinent.”

• Criticism of Law Enforcement Inaction: Woody criticizes the Cobb County DA in Georgia for not funding critical forensic analysis.

  • Quote (Woody, 07:25): “It’s a shame that we’re having to raise money for Ms. Barber to hire this expert and that the state of Georgia isn’t doing it.... Shame on the state of Georgia—or specifically Cobb County D.A.—for not doing it themselves.”

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2. True Crime News Roundup: Noteworthy Cases

Cold Case Highlight: Lisa Au (Hawaii)

Timestamps: 07:35–09:35

• Lisa Au Case Recap: Woody discusses the unsolved 1982 murder of 19-year-old Lisa Au in Hawaii, highlighting evidence that suggested police involvement or impersonation, and lamenting the lack of justice.
  • Quote (Woody, 08:22): “Witnesses reported seeing blue flashing lights behind Au’s car…Police believe the killer either impersonated a police officer or actually was a police officer…No one has ever been charged. There’s another cold case for y’all."

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Wisconsin Crime and 90 Day Fiancé Fraud

Timestamps: 09:35–12:10

• Leeta Margaretha, Reality Star Charged: 24 felony counts including wire fraud and theft are filed against former “90 Day Fiancé” star Leeta Margaretha.

  • Quote (Cindy, 10:56): “Margaretha is facing six counts of wire fraud against a financial institution, ten counts of forgery, seven counts of bail jumping, and one count of theft of between $10,000 to $100,000 from a business…”

• Banter on Wisconsin Demonym: Fun interlude as Woody and Cindy debate “Wisconsinians” vs. “Wisconsinites,” calling an actual Wisconsinite to confirm (“Cheeseheads” is also acceptable).

  • Quote (Woody, 14:02): “You know what, I guess I should have called somebody that’s actually from Wisconsin, huh?”

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London: Extreme Policing Over Pigeons

Timestamps: 15:20–27:37

• Woman Arrested for Feeding Pigeons: In Harrow, London, a woman is fined and handcuffed for feeding pigeons, with multiple police and council officers responding.

  • Quote (Woody, 16:08): “A woman has been handcuffed and slapped with a 100-pound fine after feeding pigeons…surrounded by at least six police officers and two council enforcement workers…”

• Hosts Debate Use of Force: Both Woody and Cindy question the proportionality and rationale behind such a heavy-handed response.

  • Quote (Woody, 18:02): "Multiple passerbys stopped … to express concern about the woman’s detention. Question why handcuffs had been used for such an offense. I agree with that.”

• Legal Oddities: The term “de-arrested” gets mocked.

  • Quote (Woody, 25:34): “I’ve never heard that word in my life — de-arrested… dealt with by council officers. I’m de-arresting you.”

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Alabama Family Tragedy: Funeral Shooting

Timestamps: 27:48–32:29

• Family Dispute Turns Deadly: Jasmine Allen is charged with capital murder after firing 10 shots through a closed apartment door during a family gathering following a funeral, killing two relatives and injuring her sister.

  • Quote (Cindy, 28:06): “Jasmine Allen, 35…charged with capital murder…the shooting came about because there was an argument between Allen and one of her sisters…After the fight, Allen said she was going to get her gun…shots blasted through the door.”

• Legal Arguments: Prosecutors cite intent; defense claims recklessness; the case is bound for a grand jury.

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Maine Bus Tragedy

Timestamps: 32:29–36:09

• Negligence on School Bus: A five-year-old is killed after getting his arm caught in bus doors and being dragged 280 feet.

  • Quote (Woody, 33:28): “A five-year-old student approached the bus from the right rear…[his] arm became pinned between the doors…[he] was dragged about 280ft before he became dislodged...and was run over by the bus. The boy suffered fatal injuries...”

• Open Investigation: The bus driver hasn’t been charged, leading hosts to question the handling and culpability in such cases.

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West Virginia YouTuber Exploits Vulnerable Family

Timestamps: 36:21–44:35

• Exploitation of the Whitaker Family: YouTuber John Roark is arrested for fraud and exploitation after raising money in the Whitakers' name (a family with significant disabilities) and pocketing the funds.

  • Quote (Cindy, 37:52): “Roark, the YouTuber, acted as an agent for the family...Prosecutors allege that Roark also posed as a liaison...giving his Venmo, Cash app, and PayPal...collected over $10,000.”
  • Quote (Cindy, 43:22 – quoting a family member): “‘They didn’t do it. They took the goddamn money and left.’ That is a direct quote.”

• Controversy and Conflicting Claims: Both Roark and his collaborator blame each other; the family maintains that neither delivered on promises.

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Michigan Judge’s Racist Rant Exposed

Timestamps: 44:35–51:48

• Probate Judge Kathleen Ryan: Forced into retirement after being caught in audio recordings using racist, homophobic language and boasting about her immunity from discipline.

  • Quote (Woody, 46:53): “Calling Black Americans lazy pieces of… and making homophobic statements. Some judge in a courtroom.”
  • Quote (Woody, 47:24): “‘I really kind of am untouchable…they can’t touch my salary, they can’t touch my job…Good luck.’”

• Systemic Failure: Despite the damning evidence, the judicial tenure commission takes no action, and Ryan remains on paid leave for 15 months.

  • Quote (Woody, 48:07): “Kind of tells you where they’re at too.”

• Impact Statement: Woody rails against racism and the idea of judges with bigoted mindsets making lasting impacts on people’s lives.

  • Quote (Woody, 45:52): “Racism sucks…Be [a] judge [of] people for who they are, not the color of their skin, how they treat you, how they act, etcetera. Being a racist for any form, it’s just stupid.”

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Notable Quotes & Lighthearted Moments

• Classic Woody Bluntness: Regarding the London pigeon incident:

  • (Woody, 26:07): “That’s called pop pissing off the police, ma’am…. Stop feeding the birds. Fuck you. I’m still feeding them.”

• Audience Engagement: Cindy directly addresses and thanks listeners who contribute to fundraising efforts, making justice personal and inclusive.

• Banter: The “Wisconsinites vs. Wisconsinians vs. Cheeseheads” call-in (13:55–15:09) provides comic relief in the middle of serious true crime tales.

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Topic Timestamps at a Glance

• Fundraising and Call for Justice: 03:44–09:35
• Cold Case: Lisa Au: 07:35–09:35
• Wisconsin Reality Star Financial Crimes: 09:35–12:10
• London Pigeon Incident: 15:20–27:37
• Alabama Funeral Shooting: 27:48–32:29
• Maine School Bus Fatality: 32:29–36:09
• YouTube Fraud (Whitaker Family): 36:21–44:35
• Racist Judge in Michigan: 44:35–51:48

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Episode Takeaways

• Advocacy for Victims & Families: The episode repeatedly stresses that community fundraising and public pressure are sometimes necessary to seek justice when institutional systems fail.
• Systemic Flaws: Stories showcase serious failures: from negligent bus drivers, to professionals exploiting the vulnerable, to openly racist and insulated judges.
• Cindy & Woody’s Dynamic: Their blend of blunt analysis, humor, personal stories, and audience engagement makes even the darkest tales approachable.
• Persistence Pays: Woody’s ongoing call for tips, and transparent criticism of law enforcement reluctance, serve as a call-to-action for grassroots justice.

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For Listeners Who Missed the Show

This episode is jam-packed with gripping, occasionally outrageous true crime items, but always returns to its core ethos: “Justice, no matter what.” Whether you care about cold cases, systemic failures, or just what exactly is up with Wisconsin cheeseheads, this episode is vintage Woody and Cindy — sharp, funny, and full of heart.

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[Cindy Overton]

Hello everybody and welcome to this episode of true crime. Time 4 Wednesday, January 21, 2026 and I am Cindy Overton. And guess what? Woody likes to say that I am late. But he is late today. So I get to finally say that to him. But he'll be here in just a second. And I am looking up to see if we have any update on where the GoFundMe is. But we are recording a day early. So I am sure we actually do have some more donations by now. But if you haven't donated and you can donate anything, I know we will be so very grateful for a dollar, whatever it is, anything that we can do to get justice for Haley. I know Ms. Barbara Johnson will be so grateful for at this point we're still in the 30% mark, but I know that that was just done in a couple days. In the meantime, of course we want justice for Bradley and justice for ao. And like Woody always says, things are happening over there and he's not going to disclose what is going on. But I promise you that I hear what is going on and I don't hear everything. Woody doesn't share everything with me, but I promise you that it's happening. But with that I'm going to get started and then Woody can come in and say whatever he wants to say to start the show. We'll interrupt it. I'm going to get started with a story from Wisconsin and we've got some Wisconians, Wisconsinites, Wisconsin. I don't know what they're called here this week and that's what this story is going to be about. But I hear footsteps coming. So you decided to show up, sir?

[Woody Overton]

Yep. I think I just found some wild garlic.

[Cindy Overton]

Oh, cool.

[Woody Overton]

Like, might be. I don't know.

[Cindy Overton]

Oh, I saw those bulbs at the end here. Yeah.

[Woody Overton]

Yeah. Too many flower beds. Need to call mama.

[BetterHelp Narrator]

Mama.

[Woody Overton]

Mama's over in Texas.

[BetterHelp Narrator]

All right.

[Woody Overton]

I'm Woody Overton.

[Cindy Overton]

Did you want to say anything?

[Woody Overton]

Yeah, the usual. Hashtag just Bradley. Hashtag just for AO3 13 RLRC tips. Call them in, people. Keep it.

[BetterHelp Narrator]

Keep it up.

[Woody Overton]

I know the case is being worked and I'm thankful for that. But besides, by us. Yeah. And call it in.

[BetterHelp Narrator]

No tip is too small.

[Woody Overton]

And if you. If you're going to send me two hours of recordings that you made with somebody else, and please give me a brief summary and who it is that you recorded so I don't have to listen for two hours in case it's. It's not pertinent. Right.

[Cindy Overton]

Because sometimes.

[Woody Overton]

Or I already have it. Yeah.

[Cindy Overton]

A dog cross the street, you know.

[Woody Overton]

But anyway, call it in. We appreciate it.

[BetterHelp Narrator]

And hashtag just for Haley, y', all.

[Woody Overton]

If you can please go to the GoFundMe. Ms. Barbara set up. We're trying to get the expert from the. The evidence room. Go look him up. He's legit. And they're going to reconstruct the. What I believe to be the murder scene and see if Haley could actually, you know, don't pull the shotgun. All the. They have all the scientists and to do it. And it's a shame that we're having to raise money for Ms. Barber to. To hire this expert and that the state of Georgia isn't doing it. So the shame on the state of Georgia or specifically Cobb county D. A for not doing it themselves. But that's it. That's all I got to say about that. All right? But let me tell you this. On January 21st in 1982, when I was spry young 12 years old, 19 year old Lisa all AU. That's. You know what that also is gold. Go, baby. They all left her boyfriend's house after dinner, but did not return home. Her car was parked by the highway in Kalua, Hawaii, but her decomposed body was not discovered until 10 days later. Now, witnesses have reported seeing blue flashing lights behind all's car on the side of the highway. But police did not conduct a stop. Right. The police believe the killer either impersonated a police officer or actually was a police officer. However, after several attempts to indict suspects, no one has ever been charged. There's Another cold case for y'. All. Yeah, all the way back to 1982. I hate that. I hate to hear it. Yeah, There you go. So let's get on some true crime time for this January 21st, Wednesday, January 21st. If I said Tuesday, I was wrong.

[Cindy Overton]

We're going to Wisconsin. Are there was are they Wisconsinians or Wisconsinites?

[Woody Overton]

That's a good question.

[Cindy Overton]

We've got a few here this week. We need to know.

[Woody Overton]

Hold on a second. I'm, I'm check out real quick. Probably shooting rifles. Okay. Your call has been we'll come back to that.

[Cindy Overton]

Okay.

[Woody Overton]

I'm sure they're going to call back in a minute.

[Cindy Overton]

Well, we're going to Wisconsin either way. And somebody named Lyda or Lita Margaretha is facing 24 felony counts for various crimes, including wire fraud, forgery and theft. But this woman, Leeta Margaretha, is not just any woman. She's an alum for the show 90 Day Fiance.

[Woody Overton]

Nice.

[Cindy Overton]

So she's somewhat, I'm sure you've watched that.

[Woody Overton]

What's that about?

[Cindy Overton]

No, I've never watched that, but I couldn't begin to tell you anything about it. But according to court documents viewed by Us Weekly on Saturday, January 17, Margaretha, who is 36 years old, pleaded not guilty to at least some, not all, just Some, of the 24 felony counts during a court hearing at the Juneau county justice Center on January 5th of 2026. In total, Margaretha is facing six counts of wire fraud against a financial institution, ten counts of forgery, seven counts of bail jumping, and one count of theft of between 10,000 to $100,000 from a business. The crimes occurred between November of 2023 and March of 2024. Allegedly.

[Woody Overton]

Allegedly.

[Cindy Overton]

Margaretha has not been arrested at this time and is scheduled to appear in court at the Juneau County Justice center on Wednesday, February 18th. People have reached out to Margaretha's representatives and there has not been any comment. So that's, that's our little kickstart for today, right?

[Woody Overton]

Well, there you have it. Wisconsin, whole lot of charges. Yes. What it is.

[Cindy Overton]

So I just will say this real quick. Fans of 90 Day Fiance will remember Margaretha from the sixth season in 2018 when she married Eric Rosenbrook. And Margaretha initially filed for separation from Rosenbrook in July of 2025, citing domestic incidents at the as the cause of their marriage breakdown, that the couple asked the court to dismiss the case the following month.

[Woody Overton]

So there you have it. Yeah. Well, I'm going to give you a twofer that's a little bit outside the box. It kind of fits what's going on in the world today. Beast mode. It's time for worldwide crime. Now yesterday's show was a whole lot of dead babies and stuff like that. And this is couldn't be any further on the. Actually this a story that you could have done without stabbing yourself. We're going to London and y', all, I love to dove hunt. Cindy loves the dove hunt and basically I guess does consider a form of pigeon. Wait, hold on. Here's Wisconsin. Hey, don't say anything. Don't say anything rude. You're being recorded for the show. We're doing a story on some idiot in Wisconsin and Sydney wants to know or Wisconsin people call Wisconsinites or Wisconsin. So you're on there. Sorry, go ahead.

[Caller]

Well, I think we're Wisconsinites, but.

[Woody Overton]

Oh, you know what? I guess I should have called somebody that's actually from Wisconsin, huh?

[Caller]

You know what I mean? I don't know. I mean if you want, we, we can, we can, you know, find out. But we call everybody Wisconsinites.

[Woody Overton]

Well, but you don't really know. Sorry, you're. You, you're spit.

[Caller]

You call me on the phone.

[Woody Overton]

I didn't say your name. So you're, you're just speculating, right?

[Caller]

Yeah, it's a speculation. You know what I mean?

[Woody Overton]

Okay. All right, well you. Then you did me absolutely no good. So thank you. All right, perfect.

[Caller]

All right, thanks for the call. I appreciate your time.

[Woody Overton]

All right, bye bye.

[Cindy Overton]

Wisconsinites.

[Woody Overton]

All right, so this Wisconsinites according to.

[Cindy Overton]

Cindy's fine or cheese heads.

[Woody Overton]

That's what it is. I'm gonna call him back and tell.

[Cindy Overton]

Him that I watch this and his cheese is Swiss.

[Woody Overton]

Watch this. He's going be pissed. Now. They not going to answer you. He's probably calling somebody to ask him.

[Cindy Overton]

Oh yeah, Your call has been forwarded to.

[Woody Overton]

All right, he'll come back. All right, back to the story. We're going to London and it's a beast mode because it involves pigeons. And now look, you know the, everything that's going on with all this ice stuff and, and people being murdered or whether it's murders or the cops are doing to defend themselves. I don't know the. And I told you all on previous shows that would be investigated. But sometimes law enforcement can obviously be overzealous. All right?

[Cindy Overton]

Oh, yeah.

[Woody Overton]

So in London, a woman has been handcuffed and slapped with a 100 pound fine after feeding pigeons on Weldstone High street in Harrow, London. And the footage was recorded by A bystander captured the moment when she was surrounded by at least six police officers and two council enforcement workers during the incident. The woman, who appeared visibly distressed at points during the encounter, was placed inside a police fee police van before being released. And a fixed penalty notice handed to her confirmed the offense as quotations. Throwing bread on the floor. Close quotations, which constituted a breach of local regulations governing public spaces. Now, according to the notice, the woman had initially been warned by enforcement officers about her behavior, but she chose not to comply, which prompted the police to recontact her. Right, yeah. So Hare Council operates multiple public spaces protection orders across the borough within with the town and district centers. PSPO explicitly prohibiting the feeding of birds and vermin. Right. A serious shit. Right. They were feeding birds and vermin right.

[Cindy Overton]

Now with a squirrel be considered vermin. Yeah, yeah. But it's you to feed the little squirrels.

[Woody Overton]

I'm pretty sure anything alive in that category is a vermin.

[Cindy Overton]

Yeah, yeah.

[Woody Overton]

So a man filming incident could be heard repeatedly stating the lady is getting arrested for feeding the pigeons.

[Cindy Overton]

Yummy. Six cops, I mean, they've taken this seriously.

[Woody Overton]

Multiple passerbys stopped during the encounter to express concern about the woman's detention. Question why handcuffs had been used for such an offense. I agree with that. It's not like, I mean, you could at least said, well, if you were worried about a weapon, you said, let me pat first you for officer safety. I've done it a thousand times.

[Cindy Overton]

They probably didn't put the handcuffs on correctly too.

[Woody Overton]

Yeah, I'm sure. But a Metropolitan Police spokesperson confirmed the circumstances of the arrest, stating at around 1430 hours on Wednesday, January 7, officers were approached by local council enforcement officers dealing with an anti social behavior incident on Wilson High street in Harrow.

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[Woody Overton]

A woman in her 40s was repeatedly asked provider name. Back on speaker. Sir, just so you know, Chat GPT says they're called what, Cheese heads up. Besides that.

[Cindy Overton]

Wisconsinites.

[Woody Overton]

It's Wisconsinites and cheese head. So, yeah, I know you're a transplant for there and just make sure you have your correct next time, okay?

[Caller]

Yeah, I said Wisconsinites. Though I did say that you were.

[Woody Overton]

You. You were calling somebody, weren't you, when I called you back to ask.

[Caller]

No, no, no, no, no. I was shooting.

[Cindy Overton]

All right. He probably has a thing of your head. The poster of your head.

[Woody Overton]

You got my picture.

[Caller]

I'm glad we had this conversation about cheese heads because, you know, I mean, that was very important for me right.

[Cindy Overton]

Now to know that, well, your cheese is Swiss.

[Woody Overton]

Well, it's even more important to know that you're Wisconsinite since you live in Wisconsin.

[Caller]

That's right. See, I knew the Wisconsinite.

[Woody Overton]

I know you, sir. You already say that you didn't know for a fact you were guessing.

[Caller]

Well, I didn't, but I still said it was gon.

[Woody Overton]

I got. Look, I'm. I'm at work.

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[Woody Overton]

All right. Said a woman in her 40s was repeatedly asked to provide her name and address. Said a fixed penalty notice could be issued. And after speaking with officers for around 20 minutes. She reputedly refused to provide her personal details. Well, they should have just took her ass to jail at that point. I mean, yes, she was right. Right. And it says she was arrested on suspicion of breaching section 50 of the Police Reform act, which requires people to provide their name and address when requested to do so by police.

[Cindy Overton]

Yeah, that's.

[Woody Overton]

Yeah. Well, her details were later obtained and.

[BetterHelp Narrator]

She was de Arrested.

[Woody Overton]

I've never heard that word my life. DE Arrested and dealt with by council officers. I'm de Arresting you. You're under arrest. I'm de Arresting you. So Harris Council told GB News there was a breach of the Public Spaces Protection Order related to bird feeding. The individual refused to provide their details, which is an offense, and also refused to stop feeding the pigeons when asked to do so. That's called pop pissing off the police, ma'. Am. Stop feeding the birds. Fuck you. I'm still feeding them.

[BetterHelp Narrator]

What you gonna do?

[Woody Overton]

Give me your name. Fuck you. I'm not giving to you. So I said, rp. Rp, SPO is in place to help keep our streets clean and safe. And for everyone and anyone found breaching these faces, 100 pound fixed penalty notice. Well, y', all, if you don't pay your. Your fixed penalty notice within 28 days, you can get a summons to appear before Magistrates Court. And. And then when you get that summons, they send the SWAT team and they blow up your house to rag six officers for feeding.

[Cindy Overton]

I mean, that's excessive.

[Woody Overton]

Yeah. I mean, you know the reason they. They don't want you feeding the pigeons. They don't want the pigeons shitting all over the sidewalk.

[Cindy Overton]

And they get aggressive. They just come and swipe down and get everybody's food at restaurants and stuff like that.

[Woody Overton]

I wish they'd get aggressive here on the duck field.

[Cindy Overton]

I was thinking using that. Can we just throw.

[Woody Overton]

No, See, legal debate. It's illegal.

[Cindy Overton]

We don't tell him your name.

[Woody Overton]

Yeah, fuck that. Because if they come in, I'm shooting and they'll come in and give me for all kinds of charges.

[Cindy Overton]

But if the bird has the. If we train them really good and they get the corn in their mouth immediately, they can't prove that if you.

[Woody Overton]

If you were a cheese head, Right?

[Cindy Overton]

Yep, if I was a cheese head anyway, so. All right, well, I'm d. Mad at you.

[Woody Overton]

Okay, give us a story. It's time for family Matters.

[Cindy Overton]

We're actually going to Alabama and there was a fight over a woman's mother being disrespected. And it ended with two people being shot to death.

[BetterHelp Narrator]

Okay.

[Cindy Overton]

Jasmine Allen, 35 years old, has been charged with capital murder and the deaths of her great uncle, who is 76 years old, Carlton Rufus Allen, and her uncle, 43 year old father of seven, Sonny Arrington. She is also charged with attempted murder for shooting her sister, Jasmine Ross, who actually survived the gunshot wound to her leg. Detectives said Allen and her daughter had arrived at an apartment earlier in the evening and they used a lift to get there to join their relatives gathering at her mother's home and the Tuxedo Terrace complex in Inslee. The family had spent the day mourning Jaori Markel Brown Allen, who was shot and killed a week earlier in Fairfield. Investigators said that Allen fired 10 shots through the closed front door of the apartment just before 11:30pm on December 6, and the family members were eating inside after the funeral. When police arrived, the door was riddled with bullet holes and Arrington and Carlton Allen were found dead in the hallway, both shot multiple times. The shooting came about because there was an argument between Allen and one of her sisters over Allen being disrespectful to their mother. Their mother's name was Rory Dawson. Witnesses told police that after the fight, Allen said she was going to get her gun, and Arrington's wife, Candice, later said that that's what she overheard being said. Minutes later, shots blasted through the door, and Dawson told police she believed her daughter took it upon herself to shoot into our front door. Surveillance video from a neighbor's camera and from the apartment complex showed a woman in a black jacket and gray pants approaching the door moments before the gunfire. And then there's another camera angle capturing the same figure standing directly at the door and then ran. After the shots were fired, detectives said Allen fled in a burgundy van driven by her son's girlfriend. Investigators were able to zoom in on the license plate from surveillance footage, which led officers to Allen's home in Bressemer. And that's where she was arrested two hours later. And a search of the home uncovered gray pants and a black jacket matching the suspect captured on camera, as well as a 9 millimeter ammunition consistent with the shell casings found at the scene.

[Woody Overton]

All right.

[Cindy Overton]

Detective Paris testified that Allen's son told investigators his mother admitted getting into a fight and then firing shot. And she said, I shot family. During Wednesday's preliminary hearing, prosecutors argued the barrage of rounds showed Allen intended to kill those, every single one of those behind the door. Deputy District Attorney Nick Taggett said she shot 10 rounds directly in front of the door intentionally trying to kill the person or people behind it. Her attorney, Brett Gray countered that and he said the acts are reckless, not targeted, and did not meet the threshold for capital murder under Alabama law. Jefferson County District Judge William Bell sent the case to a grand jury for indictment consideration and and ordered Allen held without bond. Arrington leaves behind his wife, Candace. $2, two daughters and five sons.

[Woody Overton]

Yes, Louise, yes, that is. Well, there you go. And I'll give you one of these. It's time for effed up professionals. And this is one of the craziest stories. I mean, you know, if you're a bus driver, you would think that you'd be very careful about kids around your bus, right? In Maine last month, a five year old boy was fatally struck by a school bus. And the feds have investigated. Okay. And this is what they found. A Friday, January 9th in this report by the National Transportation Safety Board recounted the recent tragedy in the stand in Standish, Maine that claimed the life of a boy who was later identified by his family as Simon Gonzalez. On December 16, 2025, at approximately 8:00am local time, a school bus operated by Main School Administrative District Number 6 stopped at a bus stop in the southbound lane of Route 35. That's according to report. So a seven year old student gets on the bus and a five year old student approached the bus from the right rear. When the five year old reached the passenger loading doors, the doors began to close. The student extended his left arm into the bus between the closing doors and his arm became pinned between the doors as they close. The bus began to drive south on Route 35 and the student was dragged about 280ft before he became dislodged from the door, fell to the roadway and was run over by the bus. The boy suffered fatal injuries while the bus driver and another student on board were unharmed. Crazy.

[Cindy Overton]

Yes.

[Woody Overton]

So the Cumberland County Sheriff's Office previously said that the bus belonged to the Bonnie Eagle School District. That's according to ABC affiliate wmtw. Cumberland County Sheriff Kevin Joyce told the local station that the five year old boy's half brother was the only student on board when the incident happens. That must have been the seven year old got on safely.

[Cindy Overton]

Yeah.

[Woody Overton]

Jason Small identified the victim of Simon Gonzalez, his grandson. He said Simon loved life. He loved just to be on the go. And this. Small said this in a statement to wmtw. Our family has been devastated by his loss. He was and always will be extremely loved and missed by his whole family and everyone that knew him. And the incident occurred near the Edna Libby Elementary School. So the.

[Cindy Overton]

That's so sad.

[Woody Overton]

I mean that, you know, they go on to talk about it etc in the report and all that stuff. The the Cumberland County Sheriff's Office said that the investigation is still ongoing. It also said the driver of the bus has not been charged relation to the crash.

[Cindy Overton]

I mean that was going to be my.

[Woody Overton]

It's got to be a negligent deal. I mean you should have it. I mean you drug him 280ft.

[Cindy Overton]

Yeah.

[Woody Overton]

So I don't know the. There you have it.

[Cindy Overton]

That is so sad.

[Woody Overton]

It's time for Family Matters.

[Cindy Overton]

Taking us to West Virginia. And there's A West Virginia YouTuber accused of exploiting a group of people known as the world's most inbred family after asking their followers for donations but pocketing the cash for himself.

[Woody Overton]

Exactly. And that's why we're not. I can assure you that everything Barbara Johnson gets for the evidence room is legit.

[Cindy Overton]

John Roark, 47, was arrested on Friday and hit with fraud and exploitation charges for taking advantage of the Whitaker family by promoting fake fundraisers through his social media accounts. This is According to court records, the Whitaker family lives in odd, which is a rural community in the center of the and they gained national prominence in 2020 when a YouTube documentary explored their daily lives. The members of the family have sign have significant mental and physical defects and many are nonverbal. Roark, the YouTuber, acted as an agent for the family, filming content for them on his YouTube and social media accounts with his collaborator, Lawrence Eric Carroll. Prosecutors allege that Roark also posed as a liaison for the family, giving his Venmo Cash app and PayPal accounts to people who wanted to donate to the Whitakers. And he collected over $10,000. Roark utilized their disabilities and shortcomings in life to produce social media content for monetary gain. That was said by the West Virginia State Police Department.

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[Cindy Overton]

A criminal complaint revealed text messages sent by Roark to Carol in which he admitted he wanted to make money from the videos. Followers of the families long questioned why they were still living in poverty despite a flood of donations, and so police eventually launched an investigation into the fraud in September, asking anyone who donated to the Whitakers to contact the department. Roark and Carol started playing the blame game, alleging that the other was responsible for the donations. Roark spoke to the Daily Mail and he said that the donation money came in through YouTube and that he didn't control the channel. Eric is the one that got paid for that. I didn't. I just have one platform and that's my personal Facebook, he explained. Roark accused Carol of owing him money and pocketing over a hundred thousand dollars from the family's YouTube account. Carol, though, hasn't been arrested in connection with the fraud, and he told the Daily Mail in November that he only received standard platform monetization for the YouTube videos and denied pocket pocketing any of the donations. He added, I have ensured the Whitaker's family will receive their appropriate share of the revenue. Carol said in a statement that he was cooperating with law enforcement and proactively reached out to police. The Whitakers are entitled to their share of certain revenue generated from the social media content, he added. However, the family told a very different story. When approached by the Daily Mail, Larry Whitaker angrily called Roark a lying effer and said the content created pocketed a lot of money for them. And when I asked how much he believed he was owed, he responded, I got no idea. There was a lot of money, but no idea. Far as I know. Eric got it and took off and that's all I know. Larry continued, roark got some of our money. I don't know how much. Larry said that Roark and Carol were collecting money to build them a new home, but the plan never came to fruition. He said, they didn't do it. They took the goddamn money and left. That is a direct quote. Roark previously explained in a YouTube video that he grew up in the same community as the Whitakers and had known them since childhood. He later bought a house down the street from the family in Odd and Roark and Carol started filming the Whitakers last June, posting content depicting the family grocery shopping and working around the home. They even set up a cameo account which allows fans to pay for personalized messages for their favorite creators. I mean they were going all in. Roark was charged with five counts of fraudulent schemes, five counts of financial exploitation of an elderly person or incapacitated adult, and one count of fraudulent use of a device. And he was booked into county jail on $150,000 bond and and has yet to enter a plea for the charges against him. That is a pos taking full advantage of those people. He grew up around them. He knew exactly what they were capable of or incapable of meaning, protecting themselves, understanding the situation just took complete advantage of them.

[Woody Overton]

Unreal foreign. Professionals. So you know we got a lot of judges in the family. My papa, my daddy's dad, my, my baby sister, the Colette and my godmother Sidney Walker and Lord only knows how many other ones over the years. Right? Judges should be a prominent thing, trust, fair and impartial, etc. So. But not in Michigan. And because yeah fucking racism is so stupid. It just is. Racism sucks. And it that I always, you know, I talk to kids and I stand by this be judge people for who they are, not the color of their skin, how they treat you, how they act, etcetera Being a racist for any form, it's just stupid.

[Cindy Overton]

It is.

[Woody Overton]

And it makes you an idiot. You're an idiot, especially. But all this ICE stuff and everything going on, and people are calling racism. And some of them maybe. I don't know about that. But I can tell you what I can tell you about this Michigan judge who will not be returning to the bench. You know why? She got caught on an audio recording spewing incendiary. Incendiary and racist rhetoric. So the Oakland county probate judge, Kathleen Ryan, will be voluntarily retiring from her role. And it's according to the local wxyz. The news outlet was the first to publish a set of audio recordings taken by a court administrator in which Ryan is heard labeling herself a new racist.

[Cindy Overton]

Oh.

[Woody Overton]

Calling black Americans lazy pieces of.

[Cindy Overton]

That's the furthest.

[Woody Overton]

And making homophobic statements. Some judge in a courtroom. In another recording, Ryan is heard boasting that her position and connection shield her from disciplinary action. Quotations. I hate to say it. Knock on wood. I really kind of in untouchable. They can't touch me. They can't touch my salary. They can't touch my job. All they can do is have somebody run against me. Good luck. This is what she's heard saying on just one recording.

[Cindy Overton]

Yeah.

[BetterHelp Narrator]

Well.

[Woody Overton]

Ryan was removed from the docket, which means the bench. All hearing cases in September of 2024, but it has been on paid leave for the last 15 months.

[Cindy Overton]

That's even worse.

[Woody Overton]

Yeah. The probate court's former chief judge filed a complaint with Michigan's Judicial Tenure Commission, which is charged with investigating judicial misconduct or inc. Capacity in maintaining public confidence in the courts. However, the commission never investigated the matter or took any disciplinary measures.

[Cindy Overton]

Kind of tells you where they're at, too.

[Woody Overton]

Oh, boy, they got. I mean, why is it this national news? Edward Hudden, who's the court administrator who worked alongside Ryan, taped the judge for years during long work calls when she began sharing inflammatory and inappropriate things. He said he filed complaints through the years that they were never followed up on and quoting him quotations. Nobody with that much hate in their heart for certain people. Not just individuals, but groups of people. I don't believe that they could possibly make fair, unbiased decisions regarding them. That's what Hudden told wxyz, and I agree with him.

[Cindy Overton]

Yeah.

[Woody Overton]

So a judicial vacancy was also posted for the Oakland County Probate Court, which notifies applicants that Ryan is the vacating judge. Doesn't say why. As a probate judge, she was tasked with making decisions, overseeing the Court proceedings for handling states trust wills, guardianships and conservatorships. Kind of what my baby sister was doing up in Dallas. But you know how in the, the, I mean, I guess that she thought she could trust the dude and, and he was like, you know what? This isn't right. And, and so he gets recordings and. But you turn them into headboard and maybe he did it anonymous. And their rule is we won't take anonymous complaints. I don't fucking know. I'm not trying to make excuses for him, but I guess she was right. They couldn't touch her sour. She gets to serve out her term and she's racist and homeless, hates black people and she hates anybody that's not gays and whatever. But you're a judge and you sat up there. How many decisions. If I ever had a decision go against me and I was in her courtroom, I'd be suing the shit out of.

[Cindy Overton]

That was going to be one of my questions, but my next question was going to be she sat there and got paid for how long still?

[Woody Overton]

You had 15 more months after the recordings came out. Finally. I mean, Steve's like, they're not. The judiciary board's not doing anything. I'm going to turn it over to the news.

[Cindy Overton]

When something goes like that and you get on paid administrative leave and then you're found guilty of the crime. I'm not saying she did because they're not claiming it, but I'm just saying across the board, I think you should have to pay all of that back.

[BetterHelp Narrator]

So do I.

[Woody Overton]

But the, the flip side of that coin is I know cops that have been under investigation or civil service employees, not just cops. Been on investigation. Sometimes it can go like two years, they fire them. And it go for like two years, three years. And they, they finally had the hearings or the trial and the proceedings. And our attorney Thomas Davenport's gotten several of these injustice corrected. And guess what happens at the end of that time? They got to go back and pay you the whole salary for the three years plus interest.

[Cindy Overton]

Well, that's.

[Woody Overton]

But it still sucks.

[Cindy Overton]

It does.

[Woody Overton]

And it sucks if you're an asshole and you actually do this and you get, you get your pay. It really sucks if you're innocent and you don't get your pay.

[Cindy Overton]

Yeah.

[Woody Overton]

Until. For three years.

[Cindy Overton]

So weird how that's messed up how.

[Woody Overton]

Yeah.

[Cindy Overton]

The innocent usually are the ones that aren't getting their pay and the guilty are the ones that still get their pay.

[Woody Overton]

I can imagine this woman. We need a judge. So the whole world can hear her name again. Oakland County Probate Judge Kathleen Ryan, y'.

[Cindy Overton]

All.

[Woody Overton]

That's one. And she said, they got the audio recordings and I'm not going to play them because they're just. They're just inflammatory.

[Cindy Overton]

I can imagine.

[Woody Overton]

I mean, I shouldn't, right?

[Cindy Overton]

Might get somebody fired up to go appeal their ruling.

[Woody Overton]

They can go find them lazy pieces of. And she calls herself a new racist. So I'm not gonna play them and whatever. And then bragging, you can't get my job. You can't touch my pay. Da da da, da, da da da da. So. All right, the that's it for today, Wednesday, January 21st. And I'm Woody Overton.

[Cindy Overton]

Cindy Overton.

[Woody Overton]

We will holler at y' all tomorrow. Love, everybody. Holler at you later. Peace.

[Cindy Overton]

Peace.

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[Woody Overton]

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[Mike / Grandpa]

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[Woody Overton]

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[Mike / Grandpa]

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[Woody Overton]

Yeah, they're even picking it up tomorrow. Talk about fast. Wow.

[Mike / Grandpa]

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[Woody Overton]

So about that picture frame. Ah, forget about it. Until Carvana makes one, I'm not interested.

[Cindy Overton]

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