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Reggie, I just sold my car online. Let's go, grandpa. Wait, you did?
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Pick up these may apply foreign. Hello, everybody, and welcome to steps of true crime. Time for Thursday, January 8th, 2026. And I'm Woody Overton.
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I'm Cindy Overton.
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You're back.
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I am back.
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And I'm back.
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Aren't you excited? I'm back.
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Always. Always the highlight of my day. All right, so you listen. If y' all listen to this, you've read the social media post by Sheriff Sam Kraft. It was long and distinguished. And I am going to be releasing an episode. I mean this tonight at some point for patreon of convicts. It'll be commercial free as usual, and you get it early. I'm going to go into detail in response to sheriff Sam Kraft's public press release. And I'm a. Well, we'll just say you need to tune in and listen to it. How about that? For hashtag just for Bradley and hashtag just for AO. All lifers will get it Saturday morning at 12:01am in. I'm excited. I don't want to say I'm excited, but the. The. You know, I've been silent for. For a minute and for a reason. And now some things have been said that I really couldn't comment on before because I didn't want to do anything to mess up the investigation that's going on. And I do know that they are working. And I'll be able to tell you more about that during the episode. But you know, you shouldn't listen everything. But I've addressed it lick by lick and, and want I'm a play some recordings of some other stuff that I have. Okay. And so y' all tune into that. Hashtag just for Bradley, hashtag just for AO. We want justice for everybody. Hashtag Justin. Ms. Barb Blunt. And I've been remiss. I have not gotten Ms. Barbara Johnson yet on Haley's case. But I'm going to and we will play that and let you know what, what she's thinking about doing next. So continue calling your tips 313RLRC TIP. And everything is being looked at. If I can comment, I'll comment. If I can't, I won't. And but that being said, let's get on some true crime time for this Thursday. But y' all Patreon convicts tonight. You'll get it.
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That's true.
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All right, what you got.
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In yesterday's episode, you couldn't get out of Florida, right?
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It just happens like that. We don't. I don't script it like that. I'm just going through stories. And it was Florida, Florida, Florida, Florida.
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Well, today we can't get out of Florida.
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We're right back down, huh?
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Going to Hillsborough County.
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Mm.
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And There was a 19 year old man who was arrested on Sunday, January 4, after Florida highway patrol troopers say he was driving recklessly at extremely high speeds on Interstate 4 near Tampa. All right, so just after 1:30am a Florida Highway Patrol trooper observed a Ford Mustang GT traveling well above the posted speed limit.
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Okay.
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And the road conditions apparently were wet and hazardous.
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All right.
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And. And it was a busy interstate even at 1:30 in the morning. The vehicle was weaving through traffic without signaling before the trooper initiated a traffic stop. So instead of slowing down, the teen decided that he was just going to speed up. And he reached a top speed of approximately 154 miles per hour.
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Jeez Louise, that's as fast. Only one time I've gone faster than that. Let me tell you how fast it is. The when you are driving that fast and you slow down to like 90, it seems like you get out and walk fast.
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Yeah.
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And that is too dangerous for anybody. And I mean, it's just that. That's ridiculous.
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Ridiculous. 90 miles over the speed limit 90 miles per hour over the speed limit.
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Yeah. Imagine what that ticket would be.
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So, remarkably, the pursuing trooper was driving.
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A Ford Mustang, probably an interdiction vehicle, that they got off a dope stop.
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Yes. And so that allowed them to get close and ultimately get the team to pull over safely.
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Let me tell you something, that team, we have people speed like that and they run from you. They, you know, think they're like causing you some angst. Yeah. You just made that trooper's day.
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Absolutely.
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Probably his whole year. Yeah. Oh, yeah.
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Yeah. He's driving that Mustang for a reason.
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Let these ponies run. Let's go. Yeah.
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He literally can't wait for something like this to happen.
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Right.
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Because.
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Right.
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Well, the driver was identified as Cirillo Rio Callejas and he was a resident of Plant City. And after stopping, he was taken into custody without resistance and transported to Hillsborough County Jail. And of course, he's facing charges like reckless driving and dangerous excessive speeds under Florida law because his speed exceeded 100 miles per hour. The case falls under Florida's quote unquote, super speeder law.
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Wow.
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Which went into effect in July of 2025. And under that law, driving more than 50 miles per hour over the posted limit and or faster than 100 miles per hour can result in additional penalties, including fines and possible jail time.
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Yeah. Well, you know, there's the. There's criminal reckless driving and there's like, I guess there's two different charges. One takes it up to a felony like that in the state of Louisiana. They. I mean, if you get in a wreck at 154 miles an hour, you're going to kill yourself, guaranteed. If not everybody else around you.
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Yeah.
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They. That's absolute disregard for human life.
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Well, luckily there were no crashes or injuries reported in connection with the incident.
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And It's a teenager, 19 years old. Yeah. But you know, who has to. I used to say that, and that's one of the reasons I didn't like to write tickets is because the. And I would call the parents if I could to come out and, you know, hopefully they do their job. Right. Right. But the parents are the ones who have to pay for it.
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The parents are also the ones that bought that car.
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That's true. Well, we don't know that for sure. But the. But they have to pay for the insurance and everything else. And we know that because we had to do it. Right. So the.
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I mean, a kid in a car like that as like wl with his driving. Right. He's very cautious. He wants to do Right. He's abiding all the speed limits. Any person in that car is going to want to take it to the limit as much as. You know what I mean?
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Yeah, yeah, I get that. I mean the. I'm not gonna say what I'm not.
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Gonna say Swim's wife might have done.
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Yeah. I mean, but I've done it. I've done it in official vehicles and I've done it in the first. Well, I can't remember the class of the first Mercedes that of this high end hand built AMG motor class that was in, in the state of Louisiana. And, and I had it on, on a back straight State highway at 100 and I think 163 miles an hour just to see what it would do. Yeah. And this too fast. And anyway, I shouldn't have done it or Swim shouldn't have done it. Well, that's interesting. Hate it for the parents because they're the ones got to pay. But let me give you a beast mode, y'. All this craziness. What's really crazy about this story and I can't show it to you is there have actual video of it. Like the people that were behind this car whipped out their cell phone and showed it. So we're going to New York City and they say a horrifying video called on a Queens man. They say allegedly, but it's not allegedly because I've seen the video dragging two helpless dogs behind his car as he drove through Long Island City on Sunday evening, which alarmed onlookers who all call the cops. Yeah, look, they're not on a backcountry road by themselves. You're in the middle of the city and you got this. Yeah. Long island, you got these two dogs tied to the back of your car. You got all the people on the street, they got all the traffic. Oh, my goodness. Well, the disturbing clip showed the pair of pups, which was a German shepherd named Marzipan and a pit bull named Nougat, tied up by their leashes to the back of a red Volkswagen Passat and struggling to keep up as the car drives to the intersection of 11th street and 43rd Avenue around 6pm this is according to the footage and the prosecutors. And you hear quotations. What are these doing to this dog, man? They're dragging him from the back of the car, bro. One shock bystander can be heard shouting on the video. And, and this is according to local pix 11. Nougat became unhooked from the car and the driver allegedly snatched up the dogs and put them in the car before.
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He ran like a little.
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Well a witness contacted the NYPD and officers arrested the 68 year old driver Dan Bou and removed new got and Marza pants to be examined by the ASPCA in Manhattan. Now Bourgeois was arraigned Monday night on two counts of overdriving, torturing and injuring animals, failure to provide sustenance and driving by an unlicensed operator. The for dragging his damn dogs. The mars man who is a two year old suffered a ruptured eardrum and new God who is estimated be between 2 and 4 years old had abrasions on the paw pads behind her wrists, inflammation of the skin between her toes and diarrhea. They said the footage of this incident is deeply disturbing and serves as a stark reminder of the persistent issue of animal abuse in New York City. As ASPCA Vice President of Humane Law Enforcement Howard Lawrence said in a statement in the in the last two weeks alone the ASPCA has taken in nearly 20 animals from 18 suspected cruelty situations. Isn't that crazy?
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Yeah.
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The the. I mean how many don't they know about?
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Exactly right.
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This one city exactly b pled not guilty and was released but without bail at his Raymond I guess they released him on Seven recognizance and he's due back in court on March 5th and guess he faces up only up to one year behind bars if convicted. So they said as alleged the defendant tied a German shepherd and a pit bull to the back of a car and drag them down along Island City Street. I think the good Samaritans who came forward to report this cruel act and the NYPD for quickly apprehending the defendant and seizing the animals which are now in the medical treat treatment of the ASPCA coordinate cats said we are grateful that the dog survived and their abuser will now be held accountable in our court system. Hey, don't have a.
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Don't like that word.
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How stupid right. Then he have a driver's license, you know and what is the point and this is not the original vacation whichever chase where they accidentally tied the dog and forgot about it. Yeah and Clark, you hear that noise and but he ties his dogs to the back of the car and drags them through the streets.
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Well we take our dogs for runs to tire them out so they'll just go pass out on the porch with.
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All their energy time to a vehicle. We don't have to drive them through the fields on the side by side and they like to run and I get that but this is, I mean.
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Well, they, we don't take them for a run. We don't like say come for a run. We go.
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They know when we get in the thing and turn that key on, they come running. They, they love that. That's what I'm pretty sure nougat and whatever mars with Pam or whatever the dog's name is did not enjoy that run.
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No, I'm sure they did not.
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Well, there you have it.
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But it's not a. I'm taking us to Philadelphia.
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We have a 32 year old man who's a homicide suspect and he's wanted in multiple killings across two states. So I still haven't been able to leave Florida. This, we're also, we're in Pennsylvania and Florida for this story. All right, so this 32 year old homicide suspect wanted in multiple killings across two states was shot and stabbed this weekend in the Germantown section of Philadelphia. And he's hospitalized but in police custody. And police have identified the man as Arkel Garcia and he's a fugitive who had been sought for two separate killings, one in Philadelphia and the other one in Florida. And his earlier murder conviction in Philadelphia was overturned.
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So Garcia was previously convicted of a 2013 Philadelphia murder, but that conviction was overturned in 2021 after it was linked to misconduct by a detective in that earlier case. And I know what you always say about detectives is if you don't have.
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Them, let them go. Yeah, you dance another day, they'll continue to be an hole and you continue to be a cop.
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So after that in November 2025, Garcia was named a suspect and a blunt force death of 68 year old David Weinkopf in Philadelphia's West Oak Lane neighborhood. And he was Weinkopf was found unresponsive in his apartment. And then weeks later In December of 2025, federal authorities also linked the suspect him to a murder in Fort Pierce, Florida. And he was on the run from law enforcement in both states.
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That's, you know you can't outrun that warrant.
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Well, federal marshals are now involved.
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They, they all almost Always get their man.
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And Philadelphia police had been actively searching for Garcia when the latest incident occurred. So the Germantown altercation and arrest went down like this. On Sunday afternoon, police responded to reports of a shooting and stabbing along the 5200 block of Germantown Avenue. Investigators say that Garcia was involved in the altercation with other Bill. With other people at the building. And during that struggle, Garcia shot a 34. Allegedly shot a 34 year old man in the arm. And then another man, identified only as a 37 year old, told police he shot and stabbed Garcia while trying to protect others during a struggle over a gun. Garcia then fled to a parking lot, but was found by officers with multiple gunshot and stab wounds.
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Multiple.
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Multiple. Both Garcia and the 34 year old wounded man were taken to a local hospital and Garcia is listed in critical condition and the other man is in stable condition.
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Can't kill bad grass.
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Shortly after the incident, police confirmed that the wounded fugitive in custody was indeed the murder suspect sought in both Philadelphia and Florida.
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So they nationwide.
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That's right.
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Nationwide.
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On your side.
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Yeah. Well, murdering them nationwide, I would say that you know, you're never going to get away with it but unfortunately we all you lifers notes all too well. A lot of murderers do get away with things and cases turn cold for obvious reasons. Sometimes not so obvious, but. All right. We stuck in Long Island.
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No goodness.
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I mean what the. It's time for family Matters. The story is really special. So a Long island. And they're calling the bad seed.
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Okay.
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Right. Slit his parents throats in the family's deli because they kicked him to the curb for funneling his sister. Right. But then the bad seed tells cops the Lord made me kill them. This according to what the prosecutor said.
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Make him fondle his sister.
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So Vito D', Ambrosio, who's 30 years old, y', all was arraigned in Nassau county court for using a 14 inch chef's knife to murder his Italian deli. Owning mom and dad. So in the deli he did this nine days after being released from custody over his alleged sex crimes against his little sister. He had been found covered in blood outside the family's a. A Italian deli in the Beth Page at 9:20am on Dec. 4 when cops arrived at the scene. Yeah, well, you can only imagine what they saw. The, the Antonio D', Ambrosia who's 70 and Angela Pusiano, who's 62, had their throat slashed and the, I was going to say the most grizzly manner imaginable. But anytime someone Gets their third slash. It's going to be grizzly. Right. The prosecutor said that veto called 911 himself after. After slams and that he confessed to cops in quotations. I killed my mother and father. And that's what he told the officers, according to Assistant District Attorney Veronica. But they got some Italian names here. Gary Al Gilio said in court on Tuesday. Quotations. I stabbed them both in the throat. They are in the deli. They are not breathing. I left the knife in the deli. My hands got a little cut. All they did to me is on Tick Tock. I confessed everything on Tick Tock is according to Vito. I thought the Lord was talking to me and I snapped that after everything I gave to them, after everything I did for them, they kicked me out.
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But gave him life.
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Yeah. Right. But. But then later, Vito told the cops, he said, I deserve to go to jail. I deserve life sentences. They didn't deserve this. I had life handed to me. And. And naturally, he worked in the deli. Right. So the murder weapon that Beto used to kill his parents was found on the lower shelf of a prep counter. Prosecutors wouldn't say and give anything about them details about the forceful touch and allegation that is which is believed have prompted the slain couple to kick their troubled son out of the family home, forcing him to live in his car. Right. Veto is the subject of a forceful touching claim filed by his sister. The charges are still pending, according both his lawyer and the prosecutors. They said we haven't come to a conclusion on it. Nassau County DA Ann Donnelly said an order of protection was issued so he was no longer allowed to go to the house and no longer allowed to go to work at the deli. So that may have been the antithesis of him suddenly saying, I hate my parents and I can't believe they're doing to this to me or whatever. The suspect's lawyer, Raymond Kass, told reporters after court the allegation is they are written up against his sister are allegations of forceful touching. That's all I know. Well, this idiot d' Ambrosio was cuffed behind his back and he wore white T shirt and blue sweatpants and a black hoodie and bright orange sneakers when he walked into court for his murder arraignment. Goodness, yes. He showed no emotion throughout the proceeding. And when Judge Howard Sternum asked him how he pled, he said not guilty.
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I thought he just said that. He.
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Okay, I knew you were going to say that. And he did. He. He confessed, but now he's pleading not guilty. So Veto is charged with one account of first degree murder and two counts of second degree murder and was ordered held without bail. And he's got another court appearance on January 30th. Donnelly goes on to say Angela and Antonio were simply helping customers at the deli. They own and operate it for more than 30 years when they were viciously attacked and stabbed in broad daylight by their own son. Vito d' Ambrosio had been kicked out of his house and living in his car since his release from jail for. For another pending criminal matter. He had nowhere to live and nowhere to work. And his simmering anger finally bowled over into the alleged murder of these beloved business owners. Angela and Antonio's deli was a community staple, always filled with regulars who knew the couple by name. The tragic loss has been heartbreaking to the many customers who frequent their store over the years. In my office will hold their killer accountable for this horrific crime. You know, we do these stories about kids or parents murdering the kids or kids murdering their parents. And. And they have all these pictures of this deli, and there's all people laid flowers all over it. You know, like the banner and the window says, we are open the Italian deli and pizza. And then, like, you just. You just know. This place was the bomb, right?
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Yeah.
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Another big sign. Pizza special, two pies, pl. Free soda for 22.99. But just. It reminds me of Central Grocery.
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What I was.
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You go in there, look, y', all. Central Grocery and Y. Right outside of Jackson Square. If they're still open. They've been open since, like the 1800s. The same Italian family opened it in the. I'm talking 30 plus years ago. My daddy would go there and I got to tell the story again that they. He often time be down there for, you know, state supreme court hearings and stuff like that. And him. My mom loved the French Quarter. Yeah. Then that passed that love on to me and to us with the. This Central Grocery, they were so Italian. Like these people that could barely speak English and run family run for generations. But they sell this olive mix, all right. And it's got. But like carrots and olives and olive oil and maybe even some broccoli. Cauliflower. That's what I meant. Cauliflower and different things. But you take this mix and you put. But they. They put it on their muffalado.
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Right.
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Well, let me tell that story first. Their muff a lot of. So good. My dad. My mama had gone shopping somewhere else. My dad went in and got a muff a lot of they are huge. Like five times the size of a hamb.
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Yeah.
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He. He said, well, I went in and got me and your mama muffalado to split. And he said, and I sat in the car and I started eating. I ate the whole damn thing. But they put that. That mix on top of it. Now back then, the. Every time I was going to New Orleans, my dad knew I was going to. He might. He said, stop by Central grocery, get us some olive mix. And they didn't make buffalados, but my mom always put it on her garlic salad, which she's famous for.
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And.
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And then years later, my dad was. Went to the owner and there one day he was like, look, dude, I'm tired. My wife makes the most fire garlic salad in the world and I'm tired of having to come down here two and a half hours to New Orleans to get the stuff. Would you please just ship it? Yeah. And they didn't do it at the time. And. And he got with his son and he called my back dad back. And they started shipping them a case of the olive.
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Yeah.
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Stuff at a time. Now you can find it in any grocery store.
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And there's a lot of copies.
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There's a lot of knockoffs. But true, one was from the central grocery. And that's the name of a central grocery. You know what they had. And I don't know if it's an Italian thing. I assume it is the, the. It was like old time. It's like old Time General Store. They had the, the candies that you scooped out in the thing, but I remember their chocolate covered almonds. But they didn't just have the dark chocolate. They had the, like the white and the pink and what I remember being a little kid and getting a scoop of chocolate covered almonds. But anyway. Yeah, that was fire but sad. Can you imagine the sandwiches and the meats and the pepperoni and the. I'm sure my age, age and Italian heritage. Yeah. Yeah. All right. Sorry. Yeah.
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Well, that's funny that you say that because we have guests coming this weekend and one of the things that I was contemplating making is muffalatas for lunch on Saturday. Like, but I've never done them before and I don't want to mess them up.
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Yeah.
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So I changed it. But it's funny that.
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Just make sure you make the garlic salad.
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Yes, I have the garlic salad ready. Not ready, but yes, I have stuff for that.
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It's time for family matters.
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Well, I'm going to take us to Disneyland. Not to be conditioned Fused with Disney World.
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Yeah. So Disneyland's in California. Worlds in Orlando.
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That's right.
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Which is originally supposed to be in Livingston, Paris. Most people don't know that.
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Yeah, lots of things were supposed to be in Livingston, Paris.
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And they kept turning away because they wanted to remain small. Kind of like East Luciana. Now they don't want all the outside stuff and, and the change, and I get that. But look at it now, 30 years later and it's got everything in the world.
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Well, it's getting its first target and people are up in arms about that. They are so mad.
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I got everything. El Bass Pro and everything in the world's there now.
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Yep.
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All right, good.
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Well, we're going to a family vacation.
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At Disneyland, which turned violent when a father was assaulted inside the park and he basically confronted a group that he says cut in line. And you know the lines.
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Oh, that. Yeah, they got it to science, y'. All. They say it's an hour and 17 minutes and 4 seconds. That's exactly how long it is until you get on the ride.
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Yes. And so he says that a whole group of, you know, parkers cut in line for a popular ride, and he was going to talk to them about it. So the incident happened on December 30, 2025, and it's one of the busiest weeks of the year at this particular park. And the father, who was visiting Disneyland with his wife and children from Washington State, were waiting in line for the Indiana Jones Adventure ride. And I remember the Indiana Jones, like, show at Disney World. I loved that show where they come through the crowd and all. It was. It's a cool show, but this is a ride. And a group allegedly bypassed part of the queue to join others ahead of them. So part of their group was in line already, and they just. The other part of the group just decided to push on through and go meet their group. Well, witnesses say that the father politely spoke up, pointing out that the group had cut in line and asking them to follow the posted rules. And that just began as a verbal disagreement, and it quickly escalated. According to police and family members, one man from the other group suddenly hit the father, punching him multiple times in the face. And the victim did not fight back. And he later explained that he was trying to avoid further escalation and did not want his family removed from the park and their vacation ruined. Disneyland cast members and park security responded to the scene, and the father was treated by Disneyland first aid. He suffered a deep cut above his eye, swelling and bruising, and injuries that later required stitches. The suspect fled the scene before the police arrived and has not been identified or arrested at least the time that I got this. Anaheim police confirmed an investigation is ongoing and are asking anyone with video footage, because you know that today we've got video. People whipped out those phones real quick. And you know, Disneyland has video. Anyone that has video footage or eyewitness information to come forward. But despite the assault, the father remained at the park with his family for the remainder of their day. And Disneyland staff provided assistance to the family, including care for the children and help replacing clothing damage.
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I bet they got some express passes to the restaurant.
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I bet they did. And police say that incidences like this are rare. But remind guests that physical confrontations, regardless of the reason, can lead to criminal charges and permanent ban.
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The from my time and experience there, you look around, supposed to be the happiest place on earth, and then you got people dragging their kiss. Come on, you little. We got to get on this ride, too. And Dragon, everybody's miserable and wore out, and the lines are long and the, you know, but it's been 30 years since I've been. But I'm never going back.
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Well, that fast pass thing is helpful in a lot of ways, but it creates a lot more like stress because you're like on your phone in queue trying to get it and then hustling to get there. You got five minutes to get across the park.
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And that is.
E
It just is a.
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That will never be a Woody Overton issue.
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I know that. So wl issue. He did not enjoy his trip.
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Yeah. Well, speaking of family, It's time for family matters. Kimmy coming to Fort Worth. Let me tell you about this. The, you know, a lot of people due to circumstances have to live together and have roommates and, you know, family members, large families living together, stuff like that. And I get it. Right. And. But you should try to get along if you got to live together.
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Absolutely.
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Right. So. Well, Ashley C. Benalor was upset and this is in Fort Worth, y'. All. And, and she's 32 years old and I'll just jump right into the meter matter. And she was upset and she told two homicide detectives. I wonder why they had homicide detectives there. She told him them because her uncle, with whom she lived in a small house off a highway in Fort Worth, her uncle. She was upset with her uncle because he locked her out after she returned from a doctor's office. Sabinella said she was annoyed with Tony Graham, who told her she needed to start cooking.
E
Well, she's. We don't know the circumstances.
B
I'm going to tell you the circumstances. Listen up. And this was in their living room on the day after Christmas.
C
Right.
B
Well, Sabaneller didn't really take too kindly that. And she thrust a knife into her uncle Graham's chest. This Gordon Police Graham, who's 64 whole 34 years older than the knife. Wilder died of a single stab wound at the house in the 3400 block of Wade Avenue. Well, cops got called and they responded to the 911 callers report that Graham may have stabbed himself.
E
Oh, yeah. Okay. Okay. Haley.
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They, they say they. He gets stabbed. They call 911 said, Hey, I think my uncle Graham may have just stabbed himself. And they carried the man out to the front yard to try to save him. Oh, well, on the day of the killing, Fort Worth Police Department homicide unit Detective Jerry Sedillio tried to speak with Sabaneller, but she was not communicating clearly and it was thought that she was non verbal.
E
That's a ploy.
B
That's Really a new unique twist. Like, but you wish I would play that game.
C
Not.
B
Yeah, right. If I do. Well, so I mean, this isn't fun. Then. Then they get to her and then she's like, you know, like, okay, this chick can't speak. So that what they do, they give her a pad.
E
Yeah. Make her write it out.
B
Absolutely.
E
Right.
B
Either. Absolutely. But in writing, Sabinella indicated to Sedilla, the detective, that she did not know what happened to Graham and she denied stabbing him. Well, several people rented space at the house and Graham slept in the living room with his niece. Two other people lived in the rear shed of the house. Detective Sedilio communicated also in writing with the resident of the house who indicated that she noticed Sabineller and Graham arguing as the resident went to take a shower. And this according to the affidavit which supports 7 hours arrest on suspicion of murder. Once she returned to the living room, the resident found Graham stabbed on the floor. So the person that lived in the shed goes take a shower, finds him dead. The resident indicated that seven aller was sitting on a couch and not saying anything. The resident wrote that she found a bloody knife on the couch when she sat and placed it on the table where she sat. Well, no says when she sat. Well, on December 30th, Sedilio and Detective Jeremy Balders returned to the Wade Avenue house and met with seven hour Again, following up. Right. In quotations, Ashley appeared to be able to communicate much more clearly than before. Oh, right. Initially, Sabinella denied involvement, but later admitted to stabbing Graham. And this, according to detective Sabinello, said Graham stabbed her first in the mouth.
E
Oh, now don't you just like straighten the mouth?
B
Right.
E
But no, not a mark.
B
But she can't talk about this. Sedilio didn't did not notice injuries to Salvin Aller on the day of the killing or during the second interview. And this is what he wrote in this affidavit. Now look, if I get away on the first day and I'm being non verbal, I would at least slice my mouth then.
E
Yeah.
B
And go and see you gave yourself a leg to stand on. The prisons are full of dumb criminals. Right. So Savannah described stabbing Graham near the couch and said that he fell near the doorway. Locations which Sedilia wrote the affidavit are consistent with the crime scene. And police on Sunday book seven hour at the Fort Worth Kimmy Dallas police detention facility. And she was transferred Monday to the Tarrant county jail and bond has not been set. So the moral of that story is don't tell your niece she needs to start cooking or your wife. I have never told you to code. I do everything I can in my life to get you not to cook.
E
You are so true. Well, yes.
B
Don't, don't, don't.
E
No, I was gonna say you don't try to give me not to cook because you don't like it.
B
No, I love you. I love you cooking. But I'm like.
E
I mean, I was gonna read that statement for you.
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I can do deal without. Do it. Do without if necessary because you're always so busy. All right, I'm gonna. I'm gonna end this on a good note. All right. And we're going to stay in Kimmy. State of te house. Texas. All right. And Texas police. Hashtag just for Bradley. Hashtag justify ao Hashtag just miss Barbara Blunt. Texas police solved the Lone Star State's oldest missing persons case just over five decades later and brought along awaited sense of closure to the young victim's older brother. Now got guy named Norman Prater, 16 years old, was reported missing on January 16, 1973.
E
Wow.
B
I was three years old. The Pratt was reported missing after a late night out with his friends in Dallas. Kimmy, it says Dallas, not Fort Worth. He never returned home and police never came across any meaningful leads until now. Right. The plot thickens. The Dallas Police Department announced Friday that it positively matched an unidentified teenager who was killed in the hit and run on July 9, 1973, to Norman. The team was killed in the crash on Highway 35 in Rockport, Texas, roughly 380 miles south of Dallas. And authorities in Arnasas county and the local news outlet were not able to confirm his identity at the time. And the seemingly random death eventually faded into obscurity. Went cold. One thing about 1973, you only had.
C
Didn'T have cable TV that everybody got.
B
Their news by the newspaper and or ABC and cbs, local stations. I mean, I mean not Everybody even had TVs, you know, even though they didn't have NCIC, we didn't have computers and have anything back then. He's 380 miles away from where he went missing. The departments never tied that together. Correct. So Detective Ryan Dalby, who's a member of the police department's missing persons unit was stunned when a medical examiner in Arnesas county reached out to him and flagged the 1973 crash. He said he came across it while reviewing antiquated files and was wondering if there could be a link between the unidentified victim and Norman. He said, I pulled up the file and I look at it, I'm like, are you kidding me? And this is what he told NBC Dallas Fort Worth. The medical examiner retrieved a full file and the pair employed help from a forensic analyst to pick out points of reference on the face, which led them to believe there was a high probability of the person that was found down there being Norman Prater. Dali told this, according to Dalvin, the investigator. He said, I'm like, I'm looking at the photos by the side by side and I'm like, yeah, I'm with them. There's a high probability this could be who we're looking for. The detective, however, wasn't going to risk misidentifying the slain team, who wasn't afford the chance to be properly laid to rest for 52 years. So he reached out to Norman's older brother Isaac Pratter and hosts. He could feel the gap. And he answers the phone and he's like, who is this? And I'm like, it's Detective Dowie with the Dallas Police Department. He goes, I've waited 52 years for this phone call. Please tell me you have something. Well, Prattle was at the Dallas police headquarters the following day. The brother, he said, I showed him recognition software that they use and he just looks at me and he goes, you can close the case. That's my brother. The case is done. He finally has closure. He has closure after 52 years of wondering where his brother is. And David told Fox 4 that Isaac was able to trace every detail on his baby's brother's face, ranging from a scar on his lip he got from a violent dog, like you said, and another on his eyebrows sustained during a fight. I like, I got a couple of those right. It's, they said it's unclear what exactly Norman was doing during the six month stretch between his disappearance and death or how he wound up so far from home. And Dalby told the outlet he suspects Norman may have hitchhiked his way around the state, which was popular during the night 1970s. Shout out, shout out, shout out. 52 years old, Dallas's old oldest missing persons case. And they solve it and you know, the identify him. Family gets slammed arrest. There's real people, real family members, real people that are hurting in this social media storms from going back and forth and all this stuff. And then we did that hash the hashtag justice for Bradley and hashtag just fail and hashtag just miss Barbara Blunt and all the ones we sold hashtag justice, Courtney got justice and hashtag justice for Mary Poo show And you know, that took Haley's case as far as we could take it at the, at that time and. But these are real people that wonder every day what happened to their loved ones. It's a real fucking shame. It takes almost seven years for the high sheriff of Burnham Parish to come out and make any kind of statements about these loved ones. And the statements he made weren't very nice. So. But I'm gonna deal with that this on this weekend's episode and Patreon comics you'll get tonight. And I don't know exactly what I'm gonna say. I know I'm going to address some blatantly and then sheriff says I'm a, you know, blatant misguided idiot fool or whatever. How are you worded it? The I'm a blatantly debunk some of the that he said.
C
All right.
B
What do you got anything else? No? All right, child. Well, there you have it. And I'm Woody Overton.
E
I'm Cindy Overton.
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You host a true crime. Time for this Thursday, January 8, 2026. We'll holler at you later. Peace.
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In this intense and deeply personal episode, Woody and Cindy Overton, known for their raw insights and no-nonsense approach, explore a series of shocking true crime stories, deeply rooted family tragedies, reckless criminal behavior, and moments of closure decades in the making. With their trademark blend of cold facts, emotional commentary, and dark humor, they guide listeners through recent and historical cases from Florida to New York, Texas, and beyond, confronting everything from super speeder teens to family murders—and ending on a rare but welcome note of resolution in a 52-year-old cold case.
Timestamps: [01:24] – [04:24]
Timestamps: [04:39] – [09:50]
“When you are driving that fast and you slow down to like 90, it seems like you get out and walk fast.” – Woody [06:01]
“I’ve done it. I’ve done it in official vehicles and I’ve done it in the first… hand built AMG… at 163 miles an hour, just to see what it would do… It’s too fast. I shouldn’t have done it.” – Woody [09:53]
Timestamps: [09:50] – [14:59]
“You got these two dogs tied to the back of your car… all the people on the street… Long Island, you got all the traffic. Oh, my goodness.” – Woody [11:33]
“‘What are these doing to this dog, man? They’re dragging him from the back of the car, bro!’” – Quoted by Woody [12:21]
“The prisons are full of dumb criminals. Right.” – Woody [48:29]
Timestamps: [16:03] – [25:47]
“Federal marshals are now involved… they almost always get their man.” – Woody [24:32]
Timestamps: [26:36] – [36:33]
“I killed my mother and father… I stabbed them both in the throat. They are in the deli. They are not breathing. I left the knife in the deli. My hands got a little cut. All they did to me is on TikTok. I confessed everything on TikTok… I thought the Lord was talking to me and I snapped…” – Vito’s confession, quoted by Woody [28:03]
“You do these stories about kids or parents murdering the kids or kids murdering their parents… You just know this place was the bomb, right?” – Woody [33:04]
Timestamps: [36:50] – [42:22]
“You look around, supposed to be the happiest place on earth, and then you got people dragging their kids. Come on, you little… We got to get on this ride, too… everyone's miserable and wore out…” – Woody [42:22]
Timestamps: [43:09] – [49:18]
“If I get away on the first day and I'm being non-verbal, I would at least slice my mouth then… The prisons are full of dumb criminals, right.” – Woody [48:29]
“Don’t tell your niece she needs to start cooking… or your wife. I have never told you to cook… I love you cooking… but you're always so busy.” – Woody to Cyndi [49:18]
Timestamps: [49:18] – [56:25]
“‘I’ve waited 52 years for this phone call. Please tell me you have something.’ … I showed him the recognition software… He just looks and goes, ‘You can close the case. That’s my brother.’” – Woody recounting the story [54:25]
“These are real people, real family members, real people that are hurting… It’s a real fucking shame it takes almost seven years for the high sheriff… to make any kind of statements about these loved ones… The statements he made weren’t very nice. I’m a blatantly debunk some of the shit that he said.” – Woody [56:13]
“You just made that trooper’s day… probably his whole year.” – Woody [07:07]
“I mean, how many don’t they know about?” – Cyndi [13:59]
“That will never be a Woody Overton issue.” – Woody [43:01]
“It’s a real fucking shame. It takes almost seven years for the high sheriff… to come out and make any kind of statements about these loved ones. The statements he made weren’t very nice.” – Woody [56:13]
| Time | Segment Description | |-------------|---------------------------------------------------------------| | 01:24–04:24 | Advocacy updates & teasers for Patreon content | | 04:39–09:50 | Insane speeding in Florida, “Super Speeder” law, reflection | | 09:50–14:59 | Animal cruelty in NYC, community outrage | | 16:03–25:47 | Multi-state fugitive, Philadelphia shootout | | 26:36–36:33 | Long Island family tragedy, deli murders & confession | | 36:50–42:22 | Disneyland assault over line-cutting | | 43:09–49:18 | Roommate stabbing in Fort Worth, police procedural insight | | 49:18–56:25 | Dallas’s oldest missing persons case solved after 52 years |
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