True Crime Time For June 19, 2025 | Matthew Perry Death Investigation, Kenneth Ray Cook Abuse Case, and Man Who Sold the Eiffel Tower

Summary

Real Life Real Crime: True Crime Time For June 19, 2025

Host: Woody Overton & Cindy Overton
Episode Title: Matthew Perry Death Investigation, Kenneth Ray Cook Abuse Case, and Man Who Sold the Eiffel Tower
Release Date: June 19, 2025

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Introduction

In this gripping episode of True Crime Time For, hosts Woody Overton and Cindy Overton delve into three harrowing cases: the heinous sexual abuse by Kenneth Ray Cook, the tragic death of beloved actor Matthew Perry, and the audacious con of Victor Lustig who famously sold the Eiffel Tower. The episode seamlessly intertwines these stories, providing listeners with in-depth analysis, emotional insights, and compelling narratives that underscore the dark facets of human behavior.

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1. The Kenneth Ray Cook Abuse Case

Timestamp: [02:39] - [08:29]

The episode opens with the disturbing account of Kenneth Ray Cook, a father from Raleigh County, West Virginia, who sexually abused his daughter over a decade. Starting in 2012 when she was just nine years old, Cook's abuse continued until she turned 21, resulting in the birth of three children. The severity of the case is highlighted by the staggering 149 counts of incest to which Cook has been indicted as of June 2024.

Notable Quotes:

• Woody Overton: "[...] Cook, now 44, was first charged with sexual abuse, sexual assault and child neglect, as well as three counts of incest back in April." [03:47]
• Cindy Overton: "She killed him." [03:47]
• Woody Overton: "The 10 years he's raping that baby girl led to the birth of three children." [04:27]

The case emphasizes the challenges in prosecuting such prolonged abuse, with Cook being held on a $500,000 bond since March. The hosts discuss the broader implications of such crimes, particularly the ripple effects on the victims and their families. They also touch upon the absence of the death penalty in West Virginia, juxtaposing it with other states like Louisiana where capital punishment is still a contentious issue.

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2. The Death of Matthew Perry

Timestamp: [16:04] - [35:12]

Woody and Cindy transition to the heartbreaking story of Matthew Perry, the star of the iconic TV show Friends, who passed away at the age of 54 due to an accidental drug overdose involving ketamine. The initial investigation by the Los Angeles County Medical Examiner's Office concluded in December 2023, but the case was reopened by the LAPD in May 2024 to trace the source of the ketamine.

Notable Quotes:

• Woody Overton: "Matthew Perry died at 54 years old after an accidental drug overdose." [16:15]
• Cindy Overton: "It's so sad. Think about those babies." [07:00]
• US State's Attorney Martin Estrada: "We will hold drug dealers accountable for the deaths they caused."

Five individuals have been charged in connection with Perry's death, including two doctors and his personal living assistant, Kenneth Wasma. The prosecution alleges that these defendants prioritized profit over Perry's well-being, leading to his untimely demise. The narrative delves into the illicit distribution of ketamine, its dangers, and the systemic failures that allow such tragedies to occur.

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3. Horse Tragedy in North Carolina

Timestamp: [10:10] - [15:02]

The hosts briefly discuss a tragic accident involving a horse named Alexander in North Carolina. On June 14, a driver named Shannon Seamster, under the influence, struck and killed the five-year-old stallion. The incident occurred on a beach, leading to Alexander's identification posthumously. The hosts express frustration over the minimal charges against the driver—only a misdemeanor—and the lack of accountability, contrasting it with the severe consequences faced by human offenders.

Notable Quotes:

• Woody Overton: "You could run over a horse in North Carolina and it's okay." [12:18]
• Cindy Overton: "Alexander was a very special young horse and had a lot of extra help." [13:57]

This segment underscores the disparity in how animal and human victims are treated within the justice system, highlighting societal and legal blind spots.

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4. Worldwide Crime: Jamie Varley in England

Timestamp: [46:52] - [55:35]

Expanding the scope internationally, the episode covers the gruesome case of Jamie Varley, a 36-year-old man from England accused of murdering and sexually assaulting a 13-month-old boy he was in the process of adopting. The authorities discovered the bodies of the mother and child in Rome's Villa Pamphili Park on June 16, 2024.

Notable Quotes:

• Woody Overton: "This dude is 36 years old, his name is Jamie Varley and he's now been charged with murder." [37:33]
• Cindy Overton: "It's crazy he was a teacher when he did it." [40:44]

Authorities utilized video surveillance, witness testimonies, and fingerprint evidence to track Varley down. The segment delves into the investigative process, emphasizing the meticulous efforts to bring such a predator to justice. The absence of the death penalty in England is noted, with hosts speculating on local sentiments towards the accused.

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5. The Con of Victor Lustig: Selling the Eiffel Tower

Timestamp: [56:20] - [60:02]

Concluding the episode with a historical twist, Woody recounts the infamous tale of Victor Lustig, a master con artist who successfully sold the Eiffel Tower twice in 1925. Operating under numerous aliases and armed with forged official documents, Lustig deceived top French scrap metal companies into believing he had the authority to dismantle the iconic structure.

Notable Quotes:

• Woody Overton: "He sold the Eiffel Tower. He didn't only sell it one time, he sold it twice." [56:28]
• Cindy Overton: "So did he even know his real name?" [59:12]
• Woody Overton: "He was sentenced to 20 years in Alcatraz." [59:08]

The segment highlights Lustig's cunning methods, including the use of fake government stationery and strategic meetings to lure his victims. His eventual capture and imprisonment in Alcatraz underscore the enduring battle between law enforcement and sophisticated criminals.

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Conclusion

Throughout this episode, Woody and Cindy Overton navigate through complex and emotionally charged true crime stories, offering listeners a blend of factual reporting and personal reflections. Their candid discussions on topics ranging from familial abuse and celebrity tragedy to international murder cases and historical cons provide a multifaceted exploration of crime and its profound impacts on individuals and communities.

Listeners are left with a deeper understanding of the systemic issues within the justice system, the vulnerabilities of high-profile individuals, and the lengths to which criminals will go to deceive and harm. The episode serves as a poignant reminder of the pervasive nature of crime and the ongoing struggle for justice and accountability.

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Transcript

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[Woody Overton]

Hello everybody and welcome to this episode of True crime. Time for Thirsty Thursday, June 19, 2025 and I'm Woody Everton. I'm Cindy Overton bringing you what you want to hear. If you're a True Crime News fan, and evidently a lot of you are, and we love y' all listen and we appreciate it. Tomorrow or tonight at 12:01am hashtag justicebradley. Episode two drops. Please listen to it. Everybody said episode one made them cry. Episode two is going to be the start of pissing you off and why I took this case. That's not the reason I took the case. No, it's the start of the reason why I took Right. So y' all go share it everywhere. Do hashtag justice for Bradley. Very important. Also, the Queens digital marketing drops on Saturday for all lifers. The Patreon convicts get it early commercial free early release. Go check it out. Me and Ms. Tina and I had a great conversation and I learned a lot today. Pretty some of the stuff blew my mind. Pretty crazy. But sex trafficking is real and it's real victims. Real people. Right? Just like murder victims and rape victims and everything else. So that being said, let's roll with it. You want to start today or you want me to?

[Cindy Overton]

I want you to.

[Woody Overton]

All right, well, I'll tell you about something then and I'll just bring some joy right into your life today. Kenneth Ray Cook. What you know about him?

[Cindy Overton]

I don't know anything about him.

[Woody Overton]

Well, let me tell you a little bit then. He's a father from West Virginia and he is not getting father of the year award, okay? Matter of fact, it's time for family matters. This dirtbag takes being a shitty father to a new love on only One. Well, I had, I had a case that was probably as bad as this or even worse, but this one is bad. He being from West Virginia. We love West Virginia. It's beautiful. I'll take you there one day. But he sexually abused his daughter for overweight for over 10 years. And guess what?

[Cindy Overton]

She killed him.

[Woody Overton]

Nope.

[Cindy Overton]

Well, because you said he wasn't going to get father of the Year. I don't know.

[Woody Overton]

It led to her having three children.

[Cindy Overton]

Oh, gosh.

[Woody Overton]

Right. The sir, Kenneth Ray Cook, who was from Raleigh county, began sexually assaulting, or we call it rape his daughter in 2012 when she was nine years old. Nine years old. Getting a TV. Go do it. Find another hobby and continue to. To rape and abuser until she was 21 years old. This is all according to court documents. I mean, you can't make this up.

[Cindy Overton]

No.

[Woody Overton]

So Cook, now 44, was first charged with sexual abuse, sexual assault and child neglect, as well as three counts of incest back in April. Two months later, he was indicted on June 3 and now faces 149 total counts of incest. That's the most recent one. The incest is dated July 2024, and he's got 152 charges total. Now, I'm going to tell you, tell you it's probably a lot more than 149 times. That's probably the little girl could differentiate. I mean, if you. He's probably doing every day. But the, you know, the, the most clear ones are going to be able. When you investigate a case like this, you're like, okay, can you tell me how many bedrooms are in the house? What bedroom? What was the color of the bedroom? You got to, got to, you got to try to get something to differentiate. Some of them are just like it was every day, every night. But you want to break down the charges, right, because you want to get a, like this. The maximum that you get. But the 10 years he's raping that baby girl led to the birth of three children. And this according to NBC wvba. Now, the cops said that the kids were found suffering from neglect. Imagine that one of the children was discovered in a neglectful condition in August and that child was one year old at the time. Now, the June 3rd indictment was based on the testimony of a deputy with the Raleigh County Sheriff's Office. It's talking about the child. Cook has been behind bars since March, and he's being held on a $500,000 bond. Now, the Raleigh County Sheriff's Office, as well as Cook's attorney Who's Timothy J. LaFond? They're not saying about the case. Right. The. So y' all, this is important. This goes to the queens of digital marketing. They talk about, she talks about today. We talked about foster parents, kids just to take them and sell them in sex slavery. So if y' all, y' all are stored in a storm out storm, it's starting to really, really, really storm outside. So can hear that, apologize. We just gotta roll with it. But they said if you suspect child abuse, call the Child Health National Child abuse hotline at 1-800-for a child or 1-800-422-4453 or go to www.childhelp.org. and all calls are toll free and confidential and available 24, 7 in more than 170 languages. Right. And if you or someone you know has been a victim of sexual abuse, text strength S, T R E N G T H to the crisis Text line at 741741 to be connected to a certified crisis counselor. If you or someone you know has been sexually assaulted, please contact the National Sexual assault hotline at 1-800-656-HOPE or 1-800-656-4673 or go to rainn.org yeah, it's just horrible. It's so sad. Think about those babies. And one of them is one year old, you know, and this dude, boy, I tell you what, I mean, I gotta ask, I don't think I've asked about West Virginia. Does West Virginia have the death penalty? Here's what I found. Unfortunately, West Virginia does not.

[Unknown Speaker]

Now let me tell you, Louisiana not.

[Woody Overton]

Only has the death penalty, but it used to be the only crime you could be executed for was aggravated rape. Now they call it something else. They call it like, I don't even know, rape one or something. But aggravated, right? With the clause that had to be a victim that was 12 years or younger or over 80 years old. And only one person ever got sentenced to that. They were for raping babies. And he was out of Jefferson Parish. And I tried like hell to get David Constance that, but they didn't do that. But he got four life sentences. Yeah, but you know, this dude's just, that's entertainment for him. Just rape your daughter. Of course I'm sure it's going to come out, mama's going to get charged and whatever. And I've had those cases too. They're unfortunate and they're horrible and they really, really pissed what he ever turned off. But that's it. It's all Love I got for you on that. Up family.

[Unknown Speaker]

It's time for beast mode.

[Woody Overton]

Oh, you got a beast mode coming for us?

[Cindy Overton]

Yes, I do. In North Carolina.

[Woody Overton]

North Carolina. Let me guess what kind of beast?

[Unknown Speaker]

Dog.

[Woody Overton]

No, chicken. What was it the other day that was. Oh, it was a seagull the other day with the Nazi thing on the at. Bigger than a chicken.

[Cindy Overton]

Yes.

[Woody Overton]

And a dog?

[Cindy Overton]

Smaller.

[Woody Overton]

Giraffe?

[Cindy Overton]

Smaller as a horse.

[Woody Overton]

A horse is a horse. Of course.

[Cindy Overton]

So there was a horse that was hit by an impaired driver. It was like hit and run. Like. Like a dwi. I'm assume it's. It's called an impaired SUV driver.

[Woody Overton]

So we first of all, we're going North Carolina.

[Cindy Overton]

North Carolina.

[Woody Overton]

Got a horse evidently on the road somewhere and driver hits it with a vehicle.

[Cindy Overton]

We had this happen in front of the farmhouse.

[Woody Overton]

Yeah, I had, I had to kill the horse.

[Cindy Overton]

Yes. Well, on Saturday, June 14, around 12am.

[Woody Overton]

Usually when the drunks are out, the.

[Cindy Overton]

Currituck County Sheriff's office responded to a call about a collision between a vehicle and a horse.

[Woody Overton]

Nice thing. You know it usually the vehicle is.

[Cindy Overton]

Not going to win that the mile marker 19 checkpoint, whatever check post. The horse was killed on impact.

[Woody Overton]

I'm out of a car and I've been hauling ass.

[Cindy Overton]

And the driver was 26 year old Shannon Seamster, the one that struck him. And she was in a Chevy Tahoe. She had to be flying though.

[Woody Overton]

Yeah, but I mean to kill it on a car and you hit a horse. And I had that worked the case like that. The, the. It was a mule. The person hit the mule and the two of them were in a convertible and it flipped up and landed on him in the convertible. So for. I mean, I don't know if she was injured or not because you, I interrupt you and you get that far, but you hit a horse. Horses are not small. Unless there's a Shetland pony.

[Cindy Overton]

No, this is a horse. Or horse like. But the ccso, which is the sheriff's office. Right. They notified the Carolina Wild Horse Fund, which was a non profit and they posted a tribute to the horse, the woman that hit it. Shannon was charged with the DWI and issued a $2,500 secure bond. That's not enough. I mean, what about the horse?

[Woody Overton]

She didn't get charged for the horse. What I was saying, I guess you could run over a horse in North Carolina and it's okay.

[Cindy Overton]

I guess so. So the driver, Shannon faces a misdemeanor charge and was later released. Yeah, with the Kerotuck Detention Center. After posting bond, the horse has since been identified as Alexander, which is a five year old stallion.

[Unknown Speaker]

So it wasn't a wild horse.

[Woody Overton]

And Alexandria, that means somebody had enough love for it to name it. And they five years old and said.

[Cindy Overton]

He was hit and killed on the beach.

[Woody Overton]

Really? What the fuck?

[Cindy Overton]

So the nonprofit Corolla Wild Horse Fund, that nonprofit posts photos of horses walking around a local beach in North Carolina. And they shared three images of Alexander by the water and it, you know, is posted as a tribute to him. And she. They said at this time we do not have any additional details to share about the nature of the collision or.

[Woody Overton]

The driver or what she was doing on the beach in her SUV hauling ass at midnight.

[Cindy Overton]

And they said that's in the hands of law enforcement. But we want to be extremely careful not to speculate or spread information. What we can say for sure right now is that this is a tremendous loss for the herd and for those of us who are close to these horses and work so hard to predict, protect them.

[Woody Overton]

That's crazy.

[Cindy Overton]

So Alex, they called him, was a very special young horse and had a lot of extra and a lot of extra help went into keeping him wild and free.

[Woody Overton]

So they may, I guess they do have the wild ones, right? They got the wild ones out west and the federal government helps in groups like that, help maintain the herds and, and stuff like that. But I guess they got some in North Carolina too and these people are taking care of them and whatever. I don't know, maybe, maybe it's pretty to go to the beach and, and.

[Cindy Overton]

There'S more to the story.

[Woody Overton]

Then tell it.

[Cindy Overton]

So he was part of critically endangered population. So this horse was special. They're trying to build up whatever breed he is of these wild stallions. He was critical to that. And so the mission of the CWHF is to protect, conserve and manage the responsibility of these. This herd. He was the last of his mother's offspring and anyway he fired.

[Woody Overton]

Hopefully he sired another offspring before she ran it down on the beach. It's just weird. I don't understand that. We don't have any wild horses in Louisiana either. So it is what it is. I don't get it, but I mean, I don't get you some. They got to make her make restitution. I mean, you got, I don't know who, I guess somebody owned the horse. I don't get it. That's a up story, right? Yeah. So. Well, I got one for you and everybody's gonna know the. This one and it said we, it's been talked about. And I remember every Thursday night when I was in my young 20s, before we went out to the bar, we stayed home and watched Friends and then Seinfeld and drank beer because it's much cheaper to drink at home. Yeah. And go out. And who didn't love those shows? They came on back to back.

[Cindy Overton]

Yeah.

[Woody Overton]

It was a shit we were guaranteed gonna watch that Thursday night before we went out. Well, everybody knows Matthew Perry is dead. Right. And it was because of dope.

[Cindy Overton]

Yeah.

[Woody Overton]

So. And now we knew some people were in trouble, but now five people are facing charges related to his death. And so let me tell you about it and what they might get. So four of the five defendants have pled guilty to the charges related to Matthew Perry's death.

[Cindy Overton]

Well, that's good.

[Woody Overton]

Yeah. Right. I mean, I never understand this. We'll talk about it in a minute. So everybody, you know, mourns Matthew Perry. So on October 28, 2023, the beloved Friends actor died at 54 years old after an accidental drug overdose. And the autopsy showed he died from the effects of ketamine. Y' all, if you don't know ketamine is used as a horse tranquilizer, they probably use it on that horse. In the last story in this, the effects of ketamine in addition to other contributing factors such as drowning, coronary artery disease, and effects from Winifred, which is a medication used to treat opioid use disorder.

[Cindy Overton]

Okay.

[Woody Overton]

Right. So he had a lot of shit going on.

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[Cindy Overton]

Yeah, well. And the Secret lives of Mormon wives. They do ketamine as like trauma therapy.

[Woody Overton]

Yeah, they go, yeah, whatever. So the Los Angeles County Medical examiner coroner has closed the investigation back in December 2023. But the Los Angeles Police Department picked it up and they launched a formal investigation in May of 2024 to determine the source of the ketamine, which ultimately led to the Perry's death. And In August of 2024, five people in, including two doctors, doctors and Perry's living assistant and a woman deemed the ketamine queen by the cops. We call that they all got arrested on charges in connection with Perry's death. Now they said these defendants cared more about profiting off Mr. Perry than caring for his well being. According to US State's Attorney Martin Estrada. The DEA Administrator Ann Milgram added. We allege each of the defendants played a key role in his death by falsely prescribing, selling or injecting the ketamine that caused Matthew Perry's death. Matthew Perry's journey began with unscrupulous doctors who abused their position of trust because they saw him as a payday to street dealers who gave him ketamine and unmarked vials. From the doctors to his personal living Assistant. Here's everything you ever want to know about the five people were arrested. Okay. Jasmine Sanga, who United States Attorney Martin Stratus said is referred to as the Ketamine Queen. Let's see a picture of her. You ever seen a picture of the Ketamine Queen? If you're on YouTube.

[Cindy Overton]

Oh, I did see that.

[Woody Overton]

YouTube. You can see her. The Ketamine Queen, out in the. You get that name. But she was one of the first two defendants to be named in the case. And the Department of Justice announced In August of 2024, that same guy was charged with one count of conspiracy to distribute ketamine, one count of maintaining a drug involved premises, one count a possession with intent to distribute methamphetamine, one count of possession when intent to distribute ketamine, and five counts of distribution of ketamine. Said drug dealers selling dangerous substances are gambling with other people's lives over greed. This case, along with our many other prosecutions and drug dealers who caused death, sent a clear message that we will hold drug dealers accountable for the deaths they caused. So in the federal indictment, prosecutors alleged that Sang I operated a stash house in North Hollywood where they say she would store, package and distribute narcotics only dealing to high end clients and celebrities. So there is. You lost line demand. As she had previously sold ketamine to Cody McLauri in the hours before he died. I don't know.

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[Cindy Overton]

Yeah.

[Woody Overton]

But saying I was scheduled to go on trial in August is Courtney Associated Press. And is the only person charged in Perry's death who has not entered a plea agreement. She has pled not guilty to charge against her, but if convicted, she will face up to life in prison for good. All right, Sounds good. Yeah. She's rolling the dice.

[Cindy Overton]

Yeah.

[Woody Overton]

Eric Fleming. Eric Fleming was the TV director and former acquaintance of Harry's from Los Angeles, and he pled guilty in August 2024. I'm going to cut this down for you to one count of conspiracy to distribute ketamine, one count of distribution of ketamine resulting in death. And he admitted it all to court, but he said he got it from Sanga. And he. He said he ultimately distributed over 50 miles of ketamine to Perry's Lemon personal assistance assistant. Kenneth is Wasma. And you know, once Perry was dead, Fleming got a text from Sanga that read, delete all our messages. Yeah, nothing says guilty like that. He's facing up to 25 years in. In prison. So this Kenneth Walmasa worked as Perry's living assistant for 25 years and.

[Unknown Speaker]

She'S.

[Woody Overton]

Worked with other celebrities in the over the years like Robbie Benson, Angela Bassett, et cetera. And they said that she conspired with Sanga, Fleming and Placentia to illegally attain ketamine to give it to Perry in August 2024. It's a he. He pled guilty to one count conspiracy to distribute ketamine. Cause and death. And he readily admits he repeatedly injected Perry with ketamine without medical training, including multiple injections on Perry on the day he died. Right. So according to his plea agreement, Perry told his assistant, shoot me up with a big one and to prepare his hot tub. And the wasma then went to run some errands and found Perry dead, face down in the water when he got back. So he's facing up to 15 years in prison now. We want to get into these assholes effed up professionals. I mean, you think if you're a doctor, you could make a fucking good enough living where you don't have to sell illegal drugs. But Dr. Salvador Plus Cynthia, however the fuck you say his name, he was charged with seven counts of distribution of ketamine and two counts of altering and falsifying documents or records related to a federal investigation litigation. And he distributed ketamine to Perry and Awamasa outside the usual course of professional practice and without a legitimate medical purpose on at least seven occasions during September and October 2023. You got a job. You a doctor. How much money can you be making for selling 7 miles academy? He's just 700 bucks. But he also sold the ketamine despite being formed at least one week earlier. That Perry's addiction to the drug was spiraling out of control. What'd you do with that money, sir? Did you go to Sam's club and urinate on. On the spam? Let's move on to Dr. Mark Chavez. Now, Dr. Chavez is a San Diego based physician who faces one count conspirators conspiracy to distribute ketamine. And he met said he sold the drugs to the other doctor. Oh, right. I guess he got it from across the border. But Chavez also obtained additional ketamine to transfer to the other doctor by making false representations to wholesale ketamine distributor by submitting a fraudulent prescription in the name of a former patient without that patient's knowledge or consent. You're a doctor. Go do some real work. You're not making that much money. There's not enough. So I don't. I mean, I just don't know the, the, you know. Anyway, he pled guilty and, but he's free on fifty thousand dollar bond. He faces up to ten years in prison. Tag Perry and ketamine everywhere. Evidently the world needs to know about it. You know, it goes on like Michael Jackson and, and all that. And I guess if you got enough money, whatever, and like you said last week, it's their choice. And I get that. But if the supply isn't there, I mean, doctors should not do that shit. This bitch just queen Academy. She wanted prison. I said she made her living off that. Doctors, they went to medical school.

[Cindy Overton]

I know.

[Woody Overton]

For a long time. So you can make a couple hundred bucks.

[Cindy Overton]

No, for the clout, for the. I mean, just for that. I work with Matthew Perry.

[Woody Overton]

I mean, what you gonna do? Have a party and say, yeah, you know what? I get Matthew Perry fucked up. I mean, it doesn't make any sense to me.

[Cindy Overton]

Doesn't make any sense to me either. And anything I say is gonna sound stupid because it's just emotional. And I don't understand how someone can like knowingly watch someone spiral out of control and knowing that he has an addiction to anything, apparently that you, you know, and it's just gross negligence.

[Woody Overton]

And I know you're mad, I know you're upset and you're about to cry, so let me add to it. Geez Louise, let me make sure that you cry. We'll give an update on the mass shooting in Utah we were talking about on yesterday's episode about the eight month old baby. Anderson and Mahalia Garcia said Sunday was the most heartbreaking night of our lives after the death of their eight month old son. Looks like her grandbaby. You see it on YouTube, y' all. The eight month old baby was killed in Sunday's mass shooting in Utah. Has been IDs Anderson Garcia Cabrera Jr. And of course the family says they're devastated over the baby's death. And so that was a quick update on that. And Cindy, Yes, I may or cry again today I'll probably have. But for that, I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. So.

[Cindy Overton]

It'S really, it's really sad. But the mom talk, the secret lives of Mormon wives, I've been watching, they go get.

[Woody Overton]

I've been doing justice Talk good. Hashtag justice talk good. All Bradley's videos.

[Cindy Overton]

Awesome. And they go do ketamine as like part of like marriage therapy.

[Woody Overton]

Okay. And then whoever's prescribing a tongue, they need to be in prisons and they're.

[Cindy Overton]

Going to an office doing it. And you know, Mormons, as you know they're not supposed to drink, obviously do drugs, that type of stuff.

[Woody Overton]

Caffeine, anything.

[Cindy Overton]

Caffeine, any. Well, but they can't. And it's so funny. This is not a crime. But they're not allowed to have coffee. But they are all huge soda places. There's a place called Swig up there. But they use all of these roundabout ways of getting what they want. So when they go get Botox, they get laughing gas and so they go get like do they find all of these loopholes to still do, you know, thing mind altering things but stay within the church guidelines. It's just crazy to me. But I don't know.

[Woody Overton]

Well, you know what? Simpson on a roll. It's time for worldwide crime. Yeah, she was almost to the verge of tears and now I'm about to get him for sure. Going across the pond to England. Now a man in England is accused of murdering and sexually assaulting the 13 month old boy he was in the process of adopting. Right. This dude is 36 years old, his name is Jamie Varley and he's now been charged with murder, manslaughter, assault by penetration of a child, cruelty. That's, that's an extra chart. Assault by penetration of a child, I'm sorry, comma, child cruelty, comma, inflicting grievous bodily harm, comma, and sexual assault of a child. Now this all happened in the 2023 death a 13 month old Preston Davy. And it's according to the Crown Prosecution Service. So this is really going to make you happy. This dude was a former teacher and he's also charged with taking indecent photographs of a child, distributing indecent photographs of a child, possessing indecent pseudo images of a child in possessions of extreme pornographic images. Let it keep coming. You ready? So he was in Preston Crown court on Monday June 16, but the baby boy's family members were there also. And it's according to BBC. So John McGowan Fazarly started one who's charged with allowing the death of child. Child cruelty, sexual assault also appeared in court. Probably remember, get it? The case came to light in July 27, 2023 after the Lancashire Police learned that the boy had been transported to the Blackpool Victoria Hospital where he died soon after. So they got to go check it out, right. Chief Crown Prosecutor Susan Lillian of CPS Northwest announced the charges on June 13, stating the Crown Prosecution Service has authorized the prosecution of two men in relation to the death of the 13 month old boy in Blackpool. Crown Prosecution Service has worked closely with Lancaster Police following a detailed police investigation to review the available evidence and advise on the appropriate charges. We recognize the profoundly distressing nature of the crimes. However, we remind all concerned that criminal proceedings against these defendants are now active and they have a right to a fair trial.

[Cindy Overton]

They don't have a right to.

[Woody Overton]

You got a warm on that?

[Cindy Overton]

They don't have a right.

[Woody Overton]

Check this out. Barley was a teacher at South Shore Academy in the seaside town of Blackpool when he. He was a teacher when he did it. And he was a teacher until he got arrested. All right? And that is crazy.

[Cindy Overton]

It's not the only thing he's ever done either.

[Woody Overton]

No, they did these. 36 years old. You don't start out 36 year old. Raping and murdering, taking pictures and all that. A little baby like that.

[Cindy Overton]

No.

[Woody Overton]

So I don't know how it really works in England, but I'm glad they came back and charged and they got them whatever in the beginning, but they came back and charged with more and I'm glad for that.

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[Woody Overton]

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[Cindy Overton]

Here's what I found.

[Woody Overton]

Capital punishment in the UK predates the formation of the uk having been used in Britain and Ireland from ancient times until the second half of the 20th century. The last executions in the UK were by hanging. It took place in 1964, then it was suspended in 1965 and finally abolished in 1969. That is a shame for good friends in England because I bet you they would take this motherfucker out and give it to him.

[Cindy Overton]

Maybe there'll be some prison justice.

[Woody Overton]

Hopefully, right? I don't know. And we might as well just stay one more time. It's time for worldwide crime. You know, there's certain times when you've been married as long as Cindy and I have, you just know when one another is done. And I can tell y' all today she is done. Meaning that the stories have made her ill. Go look at her face on YouTube and about to cry and blown this way and blown that. She's still about to cry. So. And you know what? So I'm gonna just go ahead and bring you more pain. Not intentionally, but just because this is what we do here on true crime time before we tell these stories.

[Cindy Overton]

I know.

[Woody Overton]

And we're going across the pond to Greece. I got a pair of cufflinks for Reese. They're beautiful, aren't they? My daddy left them to me, y' all. The mama said that they were in Greece. And my daddy, he loved bargain with somebody and he was bartered back and forth with the guy in the jewelry shop and the guy actually, the owner actually chased him down because my dad was like, oh, that panic. And chased him down and got him to come back in. He got the cuffs. I have them. And it's just an old coin. There are two old coins, gold coins and made the cufflinks. But. But anyway, Greece is pretty cool.

[Cindy Overton]

My brain is so. I know you're crying right now. I. When you said the cufflinks, I literally heard handcuffs.

[Woody Overton]

Yeah.

[Cindy Overton]

I'm like. And I'm going to my head. You got some handcuffs. Like, I mean, I'm not processed.

[Woody Overton]

I understand. And that's why I just told them you're burnt today. And I get that it's going to happen every once in a while. The show must go on. And I'll. I'll carry you. I got you.

[Cindy Overton]

Thank you.

[Woody Overton]

All right. So you just sit there and. And actually you need to block this out.

[Cindy Overton]

Can I just leave the room?

[Woody Overton]

No, it's not the same.

[Cindy Overton]

Can I just go?

[Woody Overton]

La la la la la la la la la. Then you might have trouble editing.

[Cindy Overton]

I'll be quiet.

[Woody Overton]

So. Well, we're going to Greece and one day I'm going to take you to Greece because I've never been. All right. And I want to go. Well, I tell you who has been a 46 year old American named Rexall Ford. He went to Greece. All right. And he got arrested.

[Cindy Overton]

Okay.

[Woody Overton]

Well. Greek authorities arrest the American man on Friday on suspicion of killing a 30 year old mother and her baby whose bodies found of police at a park in Italy. The 46 year old man Rexall Ford was taken on arrest warrant issued in Italy citing strong evidence of his alleged involvement in the death of the baby girl and her mama, who are also believed to be American. And this court in Italian news outlets message and Carla Del Seria and the prosecutors. The bodies of the mom and the baby were found in Rome's villa Pamphili park on Saturday and both were found naked and without any identification. Investigators in Italy told CBS News that the cause of the woman's death was unknown. But there's a reasonable suspicion that it is a double murder. And that's according to the deputy prosecutor Giuseppe Cassini. Now according to the Rome's chief prosecutor Francesco La boy, the mother was killed several days before the baby. That's fucked up. And was found several hundred meters away. The mother was found under a black bag. They said it's not exactly understandable that someone who was with a woman and a baby girl once this woman and the girl died, whom he carried in his arms would then leave the country without calling for help, without seeking assistance. And that's chief of boy said that CBS News in itself, that doesn't look good.

[Cindy Overton]

No.

[Woody Overton]

He's also calling Captain Obvious. But thankfully video surveillance. Video surveillance and witnesses showed that the three were spotted together on several occasions, sometimes speaking in English. At one point, Ford and the woman were seen arguing in the street and police took down his information, which later led to his arrest. That's right. I didn't have to, you know, write it down. Yeah, you know what? I'm pretty sure I'm not going to fucking Italy and get into a domestic dispute dispute with you in the street. No, I don't want to find out what their jail's like. I don't want to get invested to speak with you, period.

[Cindy Overton]

No.

[Woody Overton]

So much less see cry. But police discovered the identities of the woman and her baby and Ford Bob good old police park by cross referencing footage of them seen at a soup kitchen nearby the Vatican and testimonies of witnesses who were in the park along with homeless people nearby. Now, authorities were able to track for down due to fingerprints left on the bag covering the mother when she was found dead by police. He was found on the Greek island of Skiathos. Through cell phone data. According to Corio de Serera, authorities found the baby's pink dress are coming tears. The baby's pink dress and a trash can nearby where their bodies were found.

[Cindy Overton]

Why?

[Woody Overton]

Police estimate that the baby was around six to eight months old. The mother had a tattoo of a skeleton with a surfboard that seemed to have the colors of the Lithuanian flag. And forensic teams also found a total of 40 items at the scene, including a bra and sleeping bag. So they got the warrant Ford. And they. For Ford the. And they forwarded to the Greek officials and they got him and he'll appear in court for an extradition from Greece. And Dude. Oh, I got to ask. Does Italy have the death penalty? I found this on the web. It's been banned since 1889. Deception appeared between 1926 and 47, which was their rule of fascist. Whatever. Yeah. No, don't have it. But they wish they had it. On this case, the cops that worked it had wish they had it, right? I don't know. I don't know. I don't get it. You could speculate they were living homeless, traveling, whatever, soup kitchens of all homeless people. Whatever. Nobody deserves to be murdered. Smarter if you're following me on TikTok. Yeah, because I got Censored already. I can only imagine that it's not going to take me long to get kicked off of Tick Tock. But until then, I'm going to continue to bring you hashtag justice for Bradley stuff because I think it's very, very important and just gotta do it well.

[Cindy Overton]

People that do what you do have like a backup page. They have like a, they have a backup page and so they have people go follow and they post like sometimes on it just so that it's already established.

[Woody Overton]

I'm trying to try to establish one.

[Cindy Overton]

I know.

[Woody Overton]

So I don't know. I don't know. I think, I think I've probably rained enough pain for today. What do you think?

[Cindy Overton]

I, I, I definitely know that you have no thing.

[Woody Overton]

Yeah, the. I have probably rained.

[Cindy Overton]

Except that you're not done.

[Woody Overton]

I probably rained enough pain for today.

[Cindy Overton]

And nothing exceeds like excess.

[Woody Overton]

Go outside the norm. And this is like going back in time. And it's time for worldwide crime. Try to end it on a letter note. Okay?

[Cindy Overton]

Okay.

[Woody Overton]

So there was a dude named Victor Lustig, and he liked the Eiffel Tower.

[Cindy Overton]

Okay.

[Woody Overton]

He liked it so much he sold it.

[Cindy Overton]

Who'd he sell it to?

[Woody Overton]

He didn't only sell it one time, he sold it twice.

[Cindy Overton]

Okay.

[Woody Overton]

This happened in 1925. And he was a well established, established con man who moved to Paris in the summer. And he set his sights on fooling top French scrap metal companies out of their money. How stupid you'd be, even in 1925 you own a scrap metal company. And he's like, see the Eiffel Tower? I own it. Well, you can go tear it down and, and give me the scrap. Like, let me tell you. So first he had stationary made for himself remembers for the Internet, adorned with official seal of the French government, which made him look as though he had the official government job. And on the stationery, he crafted letters to several large names in the French scrap metal industry. And he invited them to meet with him at the Hotel de Crillon to discuss the future of the iconic French landmark. At the meeting, he tells them, because of engineering faults and costly repairs and political problems that I cannot discuss, the tearing down the Eiffel Tower has become mandatory. So of course we all know life at HAL wasn't really going anywhere. But the meetings attendees were none the wiser and they got into a competitive bidding process in an effort to be the one to buy the tower. Now, Lustwig, Lustig, he got his money, he received his payment, and they in return got dick.

[Cindy Overton]

How much money did he get he.

[Woody Overton]

Did it at least twice on the tape. So he continued economist way through the world for 10 more years and ultimately he was caught in 1935 and sentenced to 20 years in Alcatraz. Right. So Ballistig's cons worked so well, part because he was so hard to catch. He was Woody Overton. He reportedly had nearly 50 aliases, tons of fake passports, and concocted a lore so complex and confusing that the name he was officially logged in on Alcatraz, was Robert V. Miller. But it wasn't even his real name, but another pseudonym that he used.

[Cindy Overton]

So did he even know his real name?

[Woody Overton]

Just think about that. How much money that you think he got. And this was by somebody named Angelica Martinez. And I just wanted to end today on a Haha. Yeah. Try to get you to snap you a little bit out of the punk Punk. I'm not even going to ask what you cook for dinner. I'm going to accept that we're having leftovers tonight.

[Cindy Overton]

Oh, no.

[Woody Overton]

I'm just teasing the the But I would like to all the lifers would like to see you get out of the funk. Okay. I know when it's time for me to punt. And I'm about to punt. And I'm Woody Overton.

[Cindy Overton]

I'm Cindy Overton.

[Woody Overton]

Yeah, it's a true crime time for this Thirsty Thursday. We're out of here. Holla at y' all later. Peace.

[Cindy Overton]

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