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In the early hours of December 4, 2024, CEO Brian Thompson stepped out onto the streets of midtown Manhattan.
Woody Overton
This assailant pulls out a weapon and starts firing at him.
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We're talking about the CEO of the biggest private health insurance corporation in the world. And the suspect he has been identified.
Woody Overton
As Luigi Nicholas Mangione became one of.
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The most divisive figures in modern criminal history.
Cindy Overton
It was targeted, premeditated.
Woody Overton
Admit to sow terror.
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Woody Overton
He's awoken the people to a true issue. Finally, maybe this would lead rich and.
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Powerful people to acknowledge the barbaric nature of our healthcare system.
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Woody Overton
Hello everybody, and welcome to this episode of True Crime. Time for Tuesday, March 18th. And I'm Woody Overton.
Cindy Overton
And I'm Cindy Overton.
Woody Overton
Yes. Bringing it back to you. Huh? But today the tickets go on sale tomorrow.
Cindy Overton
They went on sale yesterday.
Woody Overton
No, I know. For. For Patreon of convicts.
Cindy Overton
Oh my.
Woody Overton
For everybody else. Tomorrow being Wednesday morning at 8aM so you all heard, or I assume you heard the drop we did about the live show coming up at Southeastern Louisiana University in Hammond on July 19th. Get your tickets, they're going fast. We're blessed and we know it's going to sell out and it's going to be a great time. And thank you, Southeastern Crystal Hardison and everybody that's worked so hard to put it together.
Cindy Overton
Yes, for sure.
Woody Overton
So that being said, we're going to get straight into some true crime time for Taco Tuesday. Right, Right.
Cindy Overton
I do want to add to that once the, once the tickets go live, I will have the links in our show notes. That way no one has to go looking for an email for them or whatever they're listening to an episode.
Woody Overton
We're going to have links everywhere.
Cindy Overton
They'll be everywhere.
Woody Overton
They'll be on all our social media.
Cindy Overton
Yes.
Woody Overton
Every page, everywhere. So. And if you have trouble, purchase them. Message Cindy at cyndi@realliferealcrime.com yes.
Cindy Overton
And we are not in control of the ticket things, but I do have direct contact with Crystal that can help us, you know, pretty much immediately. So.
Woody Overton
Yep.
Cindy Overton
Yes.
Woody Overton
So I'm going to give a quick update on the story we did yesterday about the student who went who's missing in the doctor and the Dominican Republic.
Cindy Overton
Yeah.
Woody Overton
So they came out today and said there's a video that apparently shows her going outside the bar earlier before she went missing. And guess what the camera shows what shows her throwing up outside the bar just hours before she went missing. And that same notice in the news agency I told you about yesterday, they obtained the video and the identified Kanikia. I still don't know how to say her name correctly. And she appeared to be vomiting. And. But it was a couple hours later when they went. They have on video again going to the beach. But check this out. Also on the video they have Ribey vomiting outside the bar.
Cindy Overton
Oh.
Woody Overton
But there was no interaction between the two at that time.
Cindy Overton
Okay.
Woody Overton
But she. That evidently threw up and then she went back inside and excitedly kept partying.
Cindy Overton
Oh, okay.
Woody Overton
Well, I'm just. That's part of it, I guess. You know, goes to show that she wasn't. Well, no. And neither was he. So anyways, that just want to throw that out there to y'all because I know it's a big national, international story. I guess you would say so.
Cindy Overton
Yes. And I'm sure there's tons of parents that are worried about their kids going on trips soon as our spring break gets closer. And yeah, a lot of Murray, but I'm saying. Yeah, but in the south as our spring break gets closer.
Woody Overton
Yep.
Cindy Overton
Yeah.
Woody Overton
So. All right, give us a story.
Cindy Overton
Well, I actually have an Update too.
Woody Overton
All right.
Cindy Overton
On the 13 year old that set fire to the house in England.
Woody Overton
Yeah.
Cindy Overton
And the woman died. She had to show up for court.
Woody Overton
Okay.
Cindy Overton
And so the 13 year old accused of murdering a mother of three and then setting a home on fire appeared on court on Wednesday, March 12. And of course she hasn't been identified because she's a minor. But this is basically what I want to tell you. She's sitting in court and she's holding something.
Woody Overton
What?
Cindy Overton
She's holding a teddy bear. Oh, well, she's a murderer sitting there holding a teddy bear.
Unknown Speaker
How old is she?
Cindy Overton
Thirteen.
Woody Overton
Thirteen? Yeah. That's a play.
Cindy Overton
Literal play. She's wearing a gray jogging suit and held a teddy bear with both hands during the hearing. The hearing lasted approximately four minutes and the girl only spoke when asked to confirm her age and date of birth. At the end of the proceedings, the judge in the case remanded the girl to a youth detention center ahead of her next court hearing on April 11. And I hope that teddy bear is.
Woody Overton
A lawyer.
Cindy Overton
That just. I was blown away when I read that she was holding a teddy bear. So we will have more information about that as it goes along. You know, what the sharp object was and things like that. We don't have any other.
Woody Overton
I want to know what the teddy bear's name is.
Cindy Overton
Teddy.
Woody Overton
Teddy. Never. Mark Garriga's the defense attorney.
Cindy Overton
Oh my gosh.
Woody Overton
For Scott Peterson. The State versus Scott Peterson and Part 1095 that we're on. What a crazy story, huh?
Cindy Overton
That is a crazy story.
Woody Overton
I think do the update about him getting his ass beat in prison.
Cindy Overton
You mentioned it on something.
Woody Overton
The guy said that he didn't know who Scott Peterson was. He. He beat his ass because God told him to. Not laughing.
Cindy Overton
Well, one of our lifers report like sent us a message about that and said that where he's at is the jail of like all the little whistleblower.
Woody Overton
Yeah, stitches. But even snitches beat other snitches.
Cindy Overton
And he was playing pickleball.
Woody Overton
Well, isn't that something? Well, I'm gonna do a. It's time for effed up professional. You know, I'm all about disciplining your kids when they need it, right?
Cindy Overton
Yes.
Woody Overton
Lord knows I got discipline hard. But yeah, I deserved every bit of it. We used to get the spankings until I remember the day that my dad, the last time he whipped me with the belt, I'd stuffed my pants with toilet paper and he didn't know it. And I went outside and I was laughing. And I didn't know he was watching me laugh. And then he said I'm never going to to whip you again. He said from now on you're getting punished. And oh my God, I wish I wouldn't. I spent the rest of my high school, you know, career if you will, punished and wishing I was getting the weapons. But let's go to Indiana and there's a cop and his wife and they have a six year old daughter and they decided to whip. Nope, nope, not whipper. This is. They decided to I guess basically punish her. He's a Logan's Port police officer. Cody Scott and his wife Kylie. They got charged with two felony neglect charges and they of course have pled not guilty. But let me tell you what happened. They got the charges after bystanders reported that the couple found forced their six year old daughter to stand outside in the cold holding a sign as punishment. Yeah, wait until you hear the rest of this shit. So according to court documents obtained by FOX59, several other Pharaohs Tribune, other news agencies, a woman in Logan's Fork called 911 on January 19th to report that a young girl was standing outside in 818 degree weather holding a sign that read I want to stab and kill my brother. I even take an antipsychotic. If you need to give pity then give it to the victims. Can you 6 It's 18 degrees outside. Sorry. So listen, according to the probable cause affidavit, Logan's Fork Police Department officer Cody Scott and his supervisor responded to the 911 call. Now the body camera footage showed a witness who called to report the incident speaking with the two officers telling them this baby is standing out here in the freezing cold with a sign. And they said well sir, aside from me cruelly beating her physically, I've not done any other punishment that's worked for her. That's what Cody said in his response. He's responding to his own call. Yeah, that's according to the transcription of the audio from, from the affidavit. And they said she's threatened to kill my family. She wants to embarrass us. She wants to urinate on herself and destroy things in the house. And she's cutting six year old daughter.
Cindy Overton
Let's take her to get some therapy. Maybe it's the parents that are bringing this out in her.
Woody Overton
Well he says I have a DCS caseworker involved. She's been in therapy for three years. She also has the three years since she's three years old. Yeah, she also has the wraparound program at school, Cody said, according to the court document. He says she goes in every 30 minutes to warm back up. She's bundled up very warm and then she'll come back out. Get the out of here, dude. The. So an Indiana State police officer later reviewed the body camera footage and called the Department of Child Services to open an investigation after they had more reports from other witnesses. And Cody and his wife Kylie were later interviewed by the state police. And they told investigators that the punishment on January 19 stemmed from an incident in which the six year old pouted about what, wearing lip gloss? Yeah, it gets more bizarre, right? So Kylie, the mom told investigators that the daughter often acted out for attention, sometimes urinating on herself and they often punished her by forcing her to hold a sign. The couple also said that she had been diagnosed with several mental disorders and claimed that she had threatened to shoot or cut their younger child. She's six years old. She's six. The six year old who was also interviewed by a caseworker at the child advocacy center. Again this court of court documents and she told the officials that she had previously been grounded and told to stay in her room even if she had to use the bathroom. And said that her brother did not receive the same punishment as her.
Cindy Overton
Typical.
Woody Overton
Now additionally, the document said that the caseworker found the girl had been made to hold a sign multiple times as the punishment. In. In another incident, her parents forced her to bring a sign to school that said I pee on everything and cover it up like a cat. Oh, oh my God. And in another instance she carried a sign reading I lied to hurt other people. And guess where they made her carry that sign? Church Walmart. Geez Louise, you can't make this shit up. So the Ferris Turin reported that Cody was placed on administrative leave without pay. Good right. In January. And both Cody and Kylie are facing the two Level 6 felony charges of neglect of the dependent. And they appear to court on Thursday March 13 and pled not guilty. And they're due back in court on May 8 for pretrial conference. But I don't, you know, come on dude, let's look if your kids got they serious problems and she's going to caseworkers or whatever, if you can't handle her, tell the states you can't handle her and let somebody else get her in handler. Don't make her stand outside in the fucking 18 degree weather. That's bad. But can you imagine having to carry a sign to school with the other kids that hell at six you can barely read. Yeah, they say I pee all over everything and hide it like a cat.
Cindy Overton
No.
Woody Overton
And another sign to Walmart. Get the out of here, dude. Hey, you're a up professional and you're a up parent and I don't care how bad that kid is. We, we've all been there in one form or another. That's just stupid.
Cindy Overton
No, that's hard.
Woody Overton
I mean, what do you think that's going to do to a 6 year old? Making her hold a sign in 18 degree weather? Make her hold a sign in front of her friends and classmates and make her hold a sign at Walmart.
Cindy Overton
I wonder what did it work for you motherfucker therapist has to say about that?
Woody Overton
Lord.
Cindy Overton
I tried the therapist to recommend course of action.
Woody Overton
Hopefully that child is is in the state's care. I hate to even say that, but it's in the state's care and getting the health insurance. If the child is that mentally ill, then she doesn't. I mean, fuck it, I get off my horse. That's a f up professional.
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Cindy Overton
I have had students that were just those type of students that were, you know, seemingly unlovable, you know, had horrible reputations. And those students ended up being the sweetest, most loving, caring children in my classroom. Like, I know it's a completely different situation, you know, but actually, teachers are with their students longer than parents are during the day. I would spend more time with my students than they would with their parents, right? And so I've seen a turnaround in a child just for feeling any amount of respect from another adult or love from another adult. You know, just, you got this, you know, I mean, just, I mean, building.
Woody Overton
Their approaches different ways. Who knows what goes on behind closed doors?
Cindy Overton
Obviously, they don't care. They put it out for the world.
Woody Overton
Your kid's been on psychotics since she was three years old. I don't know. You remember that one case I had in the polygraph where the kid was like six and they found the kid putting bleach in the baby's bottle? Yeah, baby's sister's bottle. And I had to interview him and stuff like that. And it was true. He did it. He wanted to kill his baby sister.
Cindy Overton
Yeah.
Woody Overton
Because she was new.
Cindy Overton
Yeah.
Woody Overton
And I mean, what do you do about that? You get him some help.
Cindy Overton
You get them help. And Jesus, don't use their mental illness against them.
Woody Overton
Yeah. That's crazy. Crazy, crazy story there.
Cindy Overton
Shaking. That's just. I would take that six year old in a heartbeat, right? Yeah.
Woody Overton
And give it the right kind of help. Yeah. All right, your turn.
Cindy Overton
Goodness, I really am shaking over that. We are going to St. Louis, Missouri.
Woody Overton
St. Louis.
Cindy Overton
Where mental health is an issue here too. But a little girl named Ophelia Lowry Daniels was killed by her father, Zacchaeus Daniels, when he turned a gun on her and then on himself. So it was a murder suicide.
Woody Overton
He's fucking idiot.
Cindy Overton
So the mother went to a beauty store and left this father with the child. And look how sweet she is.
Woody Overton
Yeah. See?
Cindy Overton
And the. The father had been having mental health issues. She knew that he was fighting that, but she was just leaving him with the baby just for a little bit when she went to the store. But when she came back, this was on February 28th. When she came back, she did not immediately go into the house. For some reason, she didn't turn on lights. The light. The house was dark. And just used her. Her light on her phone. And she saw a gruesome scene and she immediately called 91 1.
Woody Overton
Yeah. Says horrible.
Cindy Overton
So she said. So then this is what the pickup is like for the. The articles. The officers responding to the shooting found Ophelia and Daniels. And Daniels is 21, suffering from gunshot. This is the daddy suffering from gunshot wounds. Daniels was pronounced dead at the scene, but the baby was taken to the hospital and pronounced dead at the hospital. Can you imagine the suffering?
Woody Overton
Horrible.
Cindy Overton
So the mother, Micah Lowry, said she left Ophelia with Daniels in the evening to go to the beauty store. And when she returned home, like I told you about the flashlight, she said, I don't know, it was like something came over me to turn on my cell phone flashlight. And that's when I saw the scene. And she said, that image is burned in her brain forever. The little baby was only nine months old. So the mom says in her short nine months, she. She quickly stole the heart of her uncles, aunties, grandma, and everyone who met her. May her love for Ms. Rachel. Ms. Rachel's like a little TikTok star that teaches kids how to talk and stuff. She's really become well known and very helpful for Families and she loved Reese's peanut butter cups will live on. Meanwhile, the grieving mother says Daniels was a good father and loving partner who struggled with mental illness. He did not have a history of violence. She said, I try not to paint him in a bad light as a father. He tried his best and doing everything he can to be a good father. But obviously the mental health issue just, you know, I don't know if he saw opportunity and took.
Woody Overton
I mean, you know, we can't speculate, you know, there's this no explanation, you.
Cindy Overton
Know, nine month old baby.
Woody Overton
I mean, I just pray, you know, the baby didn't know what was happening. So crazy, crazy, crazy. All right, let me give you a little bit of a public service announcement on this one. And you know, scams are so common nowadays. I get. I didn't tell you this. In the last couple weeks I've been getting ticket texted to me from like one of the photo cams. And at first I thought maybe this is one of Shane's workers in California or something. And I didn't know. And I said I sent it to Blake, his son, and he was like, no, it's not our. He said, I'm pretty sure that's a scam. And then I looked into it was a scam. They scam it every day.
Cindy Overton
I get things from a toll booth.
Woody Overton
Yeah, yeah, same thing.
Cindy Overton
Yeah, yeah.
Woody Overton
And that, you know, there's all kinds of different scams and people call you and say you won the lottery but you got to Pay, you know, $1,000 for lawyer fees, whatever. This one is called the Medusa variant and has carried out hundreds of attacks across industries. The FBI is warning everybody about this along with the CISA and the Ms. Isac. I'm sure that's all government agencies. So they said a program has taken hundreds of victims data hostage for ransom and others could be next. And that's according to all those government agencies. Medusa is a ransomware as a service variant and is used to conduct ransomware attacks and has claimed over 300 known victims with critical infrastructure sectors. And as of February, it warns a March 12 cybersecurity advisory which is published by several agencies Cybersecurity and infrastructure Security Agency, cisa, FBI, blah blah blah and other ones I told you about from 2021 to now. The ransomware as a service provider has used common ransomware techniques like phishing like and exploiting unpatched software vulnerabilities across medical education, legal organizations and more.
Cindy Overton
Goodness.
Woody Overton
They're just throwing it all out there, right? It's kind of like that fake ticket fishing and they, they're trying to get you to open it up or respond to it. But originally operating as a closed ransomware variant, Medusa has changed a lot since it's first cropped up on the scene nearly four years ago. And they explained that it's grown just like the techniques that are required to thwart it. Meaning they come up, whatever to stop, they're like, okay, like this, right. So they said. While Medusa has since progressed to using an affiliate model, important operations such as ransom negotiation are still centrally controlled by the developers. And both Medusa developers and affiliates refer to as the Medusa actors in this advisory. They employ a double extortion model where they encrypt the victim's data and then threaten to publicly release the data they got if the rams is not paid. Yeah, so imagine that if they got all our data and we couldn't release episodes or do whatever unless you pay $1,000 and you can't fight it. A lot of people, 300 people pay it just so they can get their shit out. Well then they're hitting you back, well, we got some secret shit we're going to release.
Cindy Overton
They've done that with municipalities and they do that.
Woody Overton
Yes, school district, they've done it with everything. So to prevent ransomware attacks like Medusa, the agencies warn anyone using webmail services like Gmail and Microsoft Outlook as Well as the VPN's virtual private networks, so people can't see where you're at. They want us to start using multi factor authentication, which via text or email or an app, they send you security code that must be inputted to access the relevant account. And we get that all the time. Like to get in our bank to look at the bank accounts, you got to do get a text, a code, a one time text code.
Cindy Overton
And all that it does is crazy, but at least we know that our bank shout out to the best banker.
Woody Overton
Yeah, Lori Johnson, best banker chick in the world. They said the simple technique adds a critical additional layer of security to protect assets accounts whose credentials have been compromised. Now the federal agencies also advise anyone potentially vulnerable to ransomware activity like the Medusa attacks to take several other precautionary measures, including checking operating systems and software to ensure everything is properly patched and up to date. And they also instruct organizations to store copies of of sensitive or crucial information on separate physically secure locations, such as hard drives and other storage devices. And that's in case recovery becomes necessary in the wake of an attack. Makes sense Right, Yeah. So the full advisor goes more into depth about how to prevent the attacks. But other advice steps for organizations and the public at large include segmenting Networks and require VPNs for remote access, etc. Etc. So they said if you fall victim to a Medusa or similar ransomware attack, the FBI, CISA and the Ms. ISAC do not encourage paying ransoms as payment does not guarantee victims files will be recovered naturally. Basically, you'd be dealing with terrorists. So furthermore, payment may also embolden adversaries to target additional organizations, encourage other criminal actors to engage in the distribution of ransomware and or fund illicit activities. They said regardless of whether ransom has been paid, ransomware incidents should be reported to all those federal agencies.
Cindy Overton
Yeah, for sure.
Woody Overton
It's happening every day. Look, I get like emails like maybe from my mom saying, oh, I forgot, you know, I forgot to send you this. Click on the link like you. I'm not doing it.
Cindy Overton
Yeah, right, I get that.
Woody Overton
So there you have it. Be warned and stay safe. And that's. That's the cost of the digital age that we live in today.
Cindy Overton
Yes, it is.
Woody Overton
Right, Your turn.
Cindy Overton
Going to Easily South Carolina.
Woody Overton
Easily.
Cindy Overton
A mother in South Carolina brutally murdered her newborn.
Woody Overton
Here we go. That is a. It's time for family matters.
Cindy Overton
An. Just a N. No N, G, O. But it's pronounced no. She's 31 years old and she stabbed her baby to death.
Woody Overton
Jesus.
Cindy Overton
With a long metal letter opener.
Woody Overton
Does South Carolina have the death penalty?
Cindy Overton
Here's what I found.
Woody Overton
So in 1974, South Carolina reinstated death penalty. In 2006, South Carolina governor signed a bill that allows prosecutors seek the death penalty for repeat child abusers and a whole bunch more. So evidently South Carolina does have it and ours they use. In this case, I just blow somebody. Go ahead.
Cindy Overton
Well, wait, it's gonna blow your mind even worse. She stabbed her baby with a long metal letter opener. But guess what she was doing when she was doing the stabbing? Opening the mail, giving birth to the baby.
Woody Overton
Oh, my God. She really deserves the death penalty. She was given birth.
Cindy Overton
Giving birth to the boy on March 7. She was stabbing the baby with the long metal letter opener.
Woody Overton
I guess she's at home giving birth. Yeah, I mean, they're not going to let her do it in the hospital.
Cindy Overton
After delivering the child. No. Cut the umbilical cord and continued to stab her newborn son.
Woody Overton
I probably would have lost my job if I worked that case.
Cindy Overton
Officer Melissa Yates of the Easley Police Department writes in the warrant that no place the newborn's body in a plastic bag and then put the remains in another room. The newborn was declared dead at the scene while no was rushed to the hospital for treatment. She should have been left there to.
Woody Overton
To bleed out.
Cindy Overton
Yes. Police arrested no on March 11 after she was released from the hospital. And then she made her first court appearance the same day and she was charged with homicide by child abuse and denied bail by the judge.
Woody Overton
Death penalty. Death penalty. Death penalty.
Cindy Overton
I mean, police chief says, I've been doing this for two and a half decades and I have never seen anything so gruesome. I've never seen anything this bad. I.
Woody Overton
Just. When you thought you heard it all, really. I mean, a mom who literally is stabbing her baby to death while she's pushing it out. Don't know. Glad I didn't work that one. Hate it for that baby. Right? And then this is in heaven. So. Okay, let's take it on a lighter night.
Cindy Overton
Okay. Thank you. Because I stick to my stomach.
Woody Overton
We're probably going in the show on a lighter note. I do not need to ask about the death penalty in this case.
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Woody Overton
It happened back in December and it was a lady named Tina Joyce and Nicky V. Curry and their suspects. And let me tell you what they did and where they're from and all that. All right.
Cindy Overton
Okay.
Woody Overton
So this according to the Polk County Sheriff's Office in you know, there's a lot of ways to steal and I don't know if this goes in the genius category or. Or the best of all time category or.
Cindy Overton
What is it another shoving of the booty thing?
Woody Overton
It's. It's. It involves a booty. It involves a booty. And so you know these. So it's. It's. Tina. Joyce, naturally, is a female, and the other name, Nick of E. Curry, is a dude. Right. Look at her. Oh, she died a hairball.
Cindy Overton
Which one's the girl?
Woody Overton
I wasn't the old lady.
Cindy Overton
Okay.
Woody Overton
All right. So evidently they, you know, they like to steal, but they do it in a bizarre way. So the guy goes in. Curry, or whatever his name is, he goes in, and he's actually the one who decides what they're gonna steal. And he steals the items, but he's not really worried about getting caught.
Cindy Overton
Oh.
Woody Overton
Because his accomplice, Tina, guess what she does?
Cindy Overton
Distracts everybody.
Woody Overton
Absolutely. Guess how she does it.
Cindy Overton
Get naked.
Woody Overton
Damn close. Partially naked.
Cindy Overton
Okay. She flashes them.
Woody Overton
Better than that. Partly. Partly. She goes into the store while Curry's stealing, and she takes a. In the middle of the floor to call attention to herself.
Cindy Overton
Are you kidding me?
Unknown Speaker
God, you can't make this up.
Woody Overton
She. She does this while he is stealing everything. Right. Now, I'm pretty sure that Polk county, y'all. I'm assuming that's Florida. Our favorite sheriff on the shelf, Grady Judge. So the.
Cindy Overton
Thank you for this.
Woody Overton
Wait, wait, listen. Now, if you were going to steal from somewhere, I would imagine you wouldn't want to make it worth your while. Like I'm going to steal from. I don't go to my phone or whatever. Tiffany's or Macy's, something somewhere. You get some good. Especially if you're gonna have your cohort go in there and. And just pull her down and grunt one out on the floor. Everybody's gonna be looking or running away, right? But these geniuses getting the Twix, you know where they did it at?
Cindy Overton
Convenience store.
Woody Overton
Worse. Family Dollar.
Unknown Speaker
In Mulberry, Florida.
Woody Overton
And high noon on December 18th of 2024, she took a. In the middle of the Family Dollar store in Mulberry, Florida, while Curry stole a bunch of.
Cindy Overton
What did he steal?
Woody Overton
I don't know how to get to it. Okay, the. So they suspect. They said. The suspects, later identified as Tina, Joyce and Nikivi Curry, played different roles as they conspired in their retail theft. Very different roles as cord to a post by the sheriff's office. And according to the county sheriff's office, Curry, he's 36 years old. What a winner in life. He stole $500 worth of cleaning products such as Gain and Tide and Clorox products. And Joyce. Wait a minute. Joyce is 57. She calls the distraction for the employees by using the restroom without going to the restroom. The floor was her restroom and an employee had to clean the shit up, literally. And the post goes on to say we kid you not the sheriff's post. So the cleaning, they didn't have anything to clean up with. He stole it all. $500 worth. The Polk County Sheriff's office added the woman left family dollar store in a white Ford van and she had dookie in her pants showing. No, they didn't say that. But they said they they were dubbed by the department as Mr. Clean and and Ms. Dookie. I really made my sides hurt. Making my sides hurt. So but naturally because it's all on video.
Unknown Speaker
Oh my God.
Cindy Overton
So it's gone on to social media.
Woody Overton
Yeah, I'm pretty sure TikTok has a filter for the Duke in but they said the video showed the suspects roaming the store separately with Curry appearing on surveillance footage pushing a shopping cart full of merchandise. Moments later, Ms. Joyce, the classy lady she is, she was seen walking in the same directions. The hashtags include in the Polk County Sheriff's office tweet said hashtag he made a clean getaway. Wow. Noting that hashtag she can't really say the same. You got to give it to the Polk County Sheriff's Office. I love them. They also did a hashtag she wants she wasn't suspect number two for nothing. Ms. Dookie. Anyway, so Joyce, Ms. Dookie, otherwise known as aka Ms. Dookie. And she wasn't number hashtag she wasn't number two. That's funny as so Joyce was arrested and charged with felony petit theft on February 18th before she was released on a $5,000 bail on February 28th. Curry, who was previously arrested for theft and a parole violation in 2023, naturally a winner is still wanting in connection with for his partner crime. Curry was arrested for battery by the Hillsborough County Sheriff's office on December 21, 2024, and where he remains in custody. So a spokesperson for the Polk County Sheriff's Office told People magazine, the People once he's released from there, he should be delivered to Polk County Ms. Dookie. Oh, that how nasty are you, man? If you and she's 50, she's a year older than me. 56 years old. And look, went in there, took her shit, took her pants down and took a dookie in the middle of the family dollar. And your boy made away with $500 worth of cleaning products. Most people don't know that shit is readily available to trade to drug dealers. Yeah, even drug dealers like to wash their clothes.
Cindy Overton
Yeah, that's what you used to tell me.
Woody Overton
The $500 worth of Tide. You're now infamous forever on true crime. Time for, for taking a shit in the middle of the family dollar store, Ms. Dookie. But you got to give it to Pope county and Sheriff Grady and them for putting out those hashtags. Yeah, that is the best. Yeah, she wasn't. Let me read them one more time because it's too funny to miss. Are you ready? Here they are. And you, you need to hashtag these when you do this episode. Hashtag he made a clean getaway. Hashtag she can't really say the same. And hashtag is the best. She wasn't suspect number two for nothing. Dookie. Dookie Queen.
Unknown Speaker
There you go.
Woody Overton
Nice. In Florida at the Family Dollar Store, you know, I go to the family and I know you get on to me sometimes for going to the Dollar General Store and, and, and buying a no name shit.
Cindy Overton
Yes.
Woody Overton
And I mean, because I don't care. The, I drink the no name Coke from Walmart.
Cindy Overton
You prefer that?
Woody Overton
Yeah, I mean the, the I don't care it's got a name on it or whatever. That really does make a big difference to me. But you know, you go into the Dollar General Store, the Family Dollar. Now Dollar General stores are everywhere. In the middle of the country, in Louisiana anyway. I don't know about the rest of the world, but like they put them in places like where it was really, really rural, like in between here and mom and dad's house. Norwood. Just craziest places. But nothing in that Motherfucker costs over $6. The coffee may cost 9, or cleaning supplies may cost 10. It's not like you're a fucking mastermind and you're on parole already because you're an idiot for theft and whatever else you've done. And how in the hell. What, what do you think her cut was for taking a shit in the middle of the family dollar.
Cindy Overton
I, I, I.
Woody Overton
If I'd have been that employee, I've been like, fuck you, I quit.
Cindy Overton
I know.
Woody Overton
I am not cleaning up her shit. We used to have it like on the cell blocks and shit.
Cindy Overton
Yeah.
Woody Overton
People would shit themselves or they call it gas and try to throw it on you or whatever. Sometimes they would just be passive aggressive. I think it told the story about that big boy in the juvenile detention Center. He would. Yeah, he would rub it all over the walls. And you only had this one little window where you could look in and see him. It's a metal door. And I would know. This smell would hit me. He had his own special cell, like an isolation cell. There were two of those together. Off of tears. He couldn't be with the rest of them. And he would just. He would shit in his hands and he would just rub it all over the walls. And I would know. He'd rub it over the windows because you couldn't see it. And. And unfortunately, you couldn't force another juvenile to clean it up. Now when I was working with adults in the prison system, in the cell you got your. The. Each tier had their own orderly that was responsible for keeping the tier clean and all that. You call them the trustees. You call them in and be like, gotta clean it up. And I've had them say, yeah, I'm not doing it. And then you got to arrest them, put them in a hole. You can't really blame them.
Cindy Overton
No.
Woody Overton
You know, some of them just do it. And part of the job, I mean, a trust. I'm pretty sure it is nowhere in the family dollar store description. They say you have to. You might have to clean the bathroom, but you don't have to clean a pile of steaming shit from the middle of the floor on camera.
Cindy Overton
Well, I don't. I don't know. Because when I worked at Dillard's in Laredo when it was Holy week or like a Mexican holiday, people would come in and go to the bathroom in our dressing rooms. Both. Yep. They would. And they would do the girly changes. I'm not gonna go, but I'm just telling you they would. And our poor.
Woody Overton
You know what they are the custodian. Nasty.
Cindy Overton
Yeah.
Woody Overton
That's what they are. And Ms. Dookie is a nasty.
Cindy Overton
Yeah.
Woody Overton
And there's no excuse. You're a grown ass woman.
Cindy Overton
But she did it.
Woody Overton
She might have got a crack rock off of it.
Cindy Overton
And that's probably what she got.
Woody Overton
Yeah. Well.
Cindy Overton
But it was.
Woody Overton
She's world famous now.
Cindy Overton
Wow. So I needed that story. Thank you. Because that was a rough episode.
Woody Overton
That's pretty good one. The. We love and appreciate each and every one of y'all. Thank you for everybody that's already bought tickets. And they are going. They just went on sale recording this Monday morning. They want to sell 8:00, 9:00.
Cindy Overton
8:00.
Woody Overton
And we already sold a bunch.
Cindy Overton
Yeah.
Woody Overton
Which was amazing. And because they're not even released to general public yet. So get your tickets when they go on sale Wednesday morning at 8:00. General public. You can we explain everything on the episode, but you can get your general admission. And of course, before the show, there's alcohol sales and food sales and all that. And we'll have merch boost and all that. And I'm gonna do a two hour live show and then the VIP experience is afterwards, if you so choose to do that. And first drinks on Woody there. And we're gonna hang out and have a great time.
Cindy Overton
Yes.
Woody Overton
So. And that's it.
Cindy Overton
First drinks on Woody for vip.
Woody Overton
Yes. First drinks on Woody for vip. When you get there, you get your dream. While you wait and take pictures and, you know me signing autographs or whatever. And when I get done with that, we're gonna hang out and have drinks.
Cindy Overton
Yes.
Woody Overton
Right. Maybe you want to save your ticket to them. Your second drink might be on one or two. I might get. No, they don't know what's coming. Somebody will have their feelings hurt. But it's not. Won't be intentional.
Cindy Overton
No.
Woody Overton
And we love and appreciate each, every one of y'all. Thank you for liking and listening and sharing. Hashtag justiceforhailey, y'all. It's so very important. And then people were really pissed off when they heard him take the stand and testify his. More lies, more lies, more lies. And we would love for that district attorney's office to take Haley's case to the grand jury.
Cindy Overton
Yes.
Woody Overton
Right. So stay tuned. Wrapping that up. State vs. Scott Peterson. The I'm gonna keep bringing it to you. It's just idiotic. But it is what it is that people want to hear it. The numbers are there. And after that, we'll be back to like real crime originals. But the one on stage, that's never been heard before. And I'm really going to piss some people off when I tell that story on July 19th.
Cindy Overton
Yes.
Woody Overton
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Cindy Overton
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Woody Overton
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Real Life Real Crime Episode Summary
Title: True Crime Time For March 18, 2025 | Medusa Ransomware, Polk County Arrest, Police Officer Child Abuser
Host: Woody Overton and Cindy Overton
Release Date: March 18, 2025
Introduction
In this gripping episode of Real Life Real Crime, hosts Woody and Cindy Overton delve into a variety of chilling true crime stories, ranging from international disappearances and heinous crimes to modern cyber threats and bizarre thefts. Their engaging discussions offer deep insights into each case, underscored by their unique dynamic and extensive knowledge in the true crime domain.
1. Update on the Missing Student in the Dominican Republic
Timestamp: [03:58] - [05:31]
Woody provides a critical update on a high-profile case involving a student who went missing in the Dominican Republic. Recent developments reveal new surveillance footage capturing the student, Kanikia Ribey, vomiting outside a bar hours before her disappearance.
Woody Overton: “They have on video again going to the beach. But check this out. Also on the video they have Ribey vomiting outside the bar.”
Timestamp: [04:59]
Cindy emphasizes the growing concern among parents, especially with spring break approaching, highlighting the vulnerability of young travelers.
Cindy Overton: “Listen, that just want to throw that out there because I know it's a big national, international story.”
Timestamp: [05:31]
The hosts express their empathy for the family and the broader implications of such incidents on youth safety abroad.
2. The Tragic Case of a 13-Year-Old Arsonist in England
Timestamp: [05:48] - [15:50]
Cindy narrates the harrowing story of a 13-year-old girl in England charged with the murder of her mother and setting their home ablaze. The court appearance was marked by the girl's detached demeanor, holding a teddy bear throughout the four-minute hearing.
Cindy Overton: “She's sitting in court and she's holding something. She's holding a teddy bear.”
Timestamp: [06:23]
Woody reveals the judge's decision to remand her to a youth detention center pending further hearings.
Woody Overton: “I want to know what the teddy bear's name is.”
Timestamp: [07:05]
The discussion shifts to the complexities of juvenile justice and the impact of severe disciplinary actions on young minds.
Cindy Overton: “She has been in therapy for three years.”
Timestamp: [11:40]
The hosts critique the punitive measures taken by the girl's parents, advocating for more compassionate and effective interventions.
3. Update on Scott Peterson's Prison Treatment
Timestamp: [07:39] - [11:33]
Woody touches upon the notorious case of Scott Peterson, updating listeners on his ongoing struggles within the prison system. A lifer reported that Peterson is facing violence from other inmates, highlighting issues of safety for high-profile prisoners.
Woody Overton: “People were really pissed off when they heard him take the stand and testify more lies.”
Timestamp: [48:36]
Cindy expresses concern over Peterson's mental well-being and the broader implications of his treatment in incarceration.
4. Medusa Ransomware: A Growing Cyber Threat
Timestamp: [20:25] - [30:25]
Shifting gears, the Overtons delve into the alarming rise of Medusa ransomware, a sophisticated cyber threat impacting various sectors, including healthcare, education, and legal organizations. Woody outlines the mechanics of the attack, emphasizing the double extortion model where attackers encrypt data and threaten its release unless a ransom is paid.
Woody Overton: “Medusa has claimed over 300 known victims with critical infrastructure sectors.”
Timestamp: [26:01]
Cindy discusses preventive measures recommended by authorities, such as multi-factor authentication and regular software updates, urging organizations to bolster their cybersecurity defenses.
Cindy Overton: “They want us to start using multi-factor authentication...”
Timestamp: [28:05]
The hosts warn listeners about the pervasive nature of cyber scams, drawing parallels to everyday phishing attempts and advising vigilance in digital interactions.
Woody Overton: “Be warned and stay safe. And that's the cost of the digital age that we live in today.”
Timestamp: [30:24]
5. Horrific Murder-Suicide in St. Louis, Missouri
Timestamp: [30:25] - [46:48]
Woody and Cindy recount the tragic murder-suicide involving Zacchaeus Daniels and his nine-month-old daughter, Ophelia Lowry Daniels. The incident unfolded when Daniels, battling mental health issues, fatally shot his daughter and then himself.
Cindy Overton: “She saw the scene and she immediately called 911.”
Timestamp: [21:57]
The mother’s emotional recounting of the event underscores the devastating impact of mental illness and its potential to lead to irreversible actions.
Woody Overton: “I mean, I just pray, you know, the baby didn't know what was happening.”
Timestamp: [23:44]
The Overtons discuss the importance of mental health support and the challenges faced by families in crisis, advocating for better resources and intervention strategies.
6. Bizarre Theft at Family Dollar, Polk County
Timestamp: [35:03] - [46:48]
Concluding with a lighter, albeit bizarre story, Woody and Cindy cover the arrest of Tina Joyce and Nikivi Curry in Polk County for their unconventional theft methods at a Family Dollar store in Mulberry, Florida. While Curry was stealing cleaning products worth $500, Joyce caused a scene by defecating in the middle of the store to distract staff.
Woody Overton: “She's holding a teddy bear. Never Mark Garriga's the defense attorney.”
Timestamp: [07:30]
The couple was humorously dubbed "Mr. Clean" and "Ms. Dookie" by the Polk County Sheriff's Office, gaining notoriety through viral social media videos.
Cindy Overton: “They steal $500 worth of cleaning products... she was seen walking in the same directions.”
Timestamp: [35:25]
Despite the absurdity, Cindy highlights the real consequences, including Curry's continued custody and Joyce's brief release on bail.
Conclusion and Upcoming Events
As the episode wraps up, Woody and Cindy promote their upcoming live show at Southeastern Louisiana University in Hammond on July 19th, urging listeners to secure tickets early due to high demand.
Woody Overton: “They’re going to sell out and it’s going to be a great time.”
Timestamp: [02:39]
They also encourage listeners to engage with their community through Patreon and the Real Life Real Crime app, ensuring ongoing support and access to exclusive content.
Notable Quotes
Final Thoughts
This episode of Real Life Real Crime masterfully intertwines stories of personal tragedy, systemic failures, and the unpredictable nature of human behavior. Woody and Cindy Overton's thorough exploration of each case, paired with their insightful commentary, provides listeners with a comprehensive understanding of the complexities surrounding true crime.
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