Cindy Overton (4:07)

Hello everybody and welcome to True Crime. Time for Saturday, March 21, 2026. And I am Cindy Overton and I want to thank everybody who came out for bingo night on Thursday and joined us at Big J Side Porch. We hope that you truly had a great time. I know I had a great time. I won one of the rounds of bingo. But just playing with everyone was so much fun and I look forward to our next trip there for sure next Thursday. The crawfish were delicious. They added ravioli to the crawfish which was amazing. There was some sausage also like in links that we just had brought to the table and the chicken cracklings were always to die for. I finally got the burger which I thought was very good and the onion rings were amazing. So anyway, enough about that, I'm starving. I literally had WL come and grab the groceries from the car for me and I came straight to the studio to record and I'm literally sitting here with a carton of eggs that I have to bring inside with me once I finish this recording. So lots of juggling going on around here. But let's get down to what happened on this this day in history. Three short years ago, on this day, March 21st of 2023, 55 year old Kader Haman was shot and killed while taking two potential buyers on a test drive. 18 year old Luis Gutierrez and 19 year old Christian Salcedo murdered Haman while on a test drive and then abandoned the vehicle. Just minutes later, the two teenagers were arrested for the murders. So that is what happened on this day in 2023. And I just want to take a second and say to all of our new lifers, and if you are new, you might not know what I mean, by lifers. But a lifer is basically anyone that listens to our podcast. I say our because I'm on the podcast with Woody or by myself a few days a week, but essentially on real life, real crime, true crime time 4. If you are a listener of these podcasts, you are a lifer. And we do have quite a few new people joining us now because of what happened to Madison series. And thank you for joining us and truly thank you for sharing the content because we are getting tips in the tip line with the what Happened to Madison case. The tips that are coming in right now are really, really good. Like, they're clear, they're detailed, they're thoughtful, and they mean so much. And for some of you that think that you might be sitting there thinking like, well, this probably doesn't matter, or well, this is too small to call in. I'm sure someone else will call this in. Please don't do that. Like, please call it in. I don't. Woody does not care what it is. It could be truly anything. I don't want to put a parameter on it. But the type of information that we are receiving and some of it is exactly what I just said. Well, you know, I get the call. Well, you say no tip is too small. So here's what I've got and it's blah, blah, blah. That tip right there might have tipped the case in a whole different direction. Not different that the eyes are on someone else, just different. And adding a bunch of pieces to the puzzle together that at one point didn't connect quite as easily as they do now just because of that one tip. It's just like a puzzle. It truly is that those itty bitty pieces build the big picture. So please, if you know anything, even if you're think, if you think it's nothing, please call it in. Call it in to 313-RL-CTIP. And for those of you that have called in tips, thank you from the bottom of our hearts. I know that Ms. Lynn is grateful. I know the law enforcement actually working this case or these cases are very grateful for any information that they get. So as always, anything that said to Woody is kept anonymous and he will not break that promise. I promise that. And if you ask my kids, I don't make promises I will not keep. Y' all are definitely making a difference whether you realize it or not. One day you'll hear the full story and say, oh my gosh, I played a role that way. So as far as justice for Haley, of course we Continuingly ask for any help that you can give with the GoFundMe, whether it's monetary or just sharing, sending good vibes, whatever that may be. We are just so grateful for that. And I know for Ms. Barbara, she, to put it into words, what it means to her and Stella is just probably not even possible. And as the evidence room gets further along, improving what they're going to prove either way, the thing either way it falls. Proving that there's no way Brooks could have done it, which isn't going to happen. Proving that he actually did do it, which has essentially already happened, and then taking it to Cobb county and making an arrest happen, you know, that's going to mean the world to all of us lifers that are so invested in it. I know that it's going to feel very much, you know, justice for Courtney, Coco, and it bonded us as lifers and all the justice is for. So we're not stopping. We're not going to stop asking for help with justice for Haley. We're going to keep pushing, we're going to keep fighting, and we're going to keep her name out there until we get the response and the answers that Haley deserves. And we can't do this without y'. All. So I've said quite enough about. Well, I don't think there's too much to say in reference to getting justice for someone. There's just no amount of words or time, just no limit to that. But this is true crime time for. So I am going to start with

Woody (12:07)

beast mode.

Cindy Overton (12:09)

A Greenville, Tennessee, woman is heading to federal prison for over three years after orchestrating a disturbing international scheme to produce and share videos of animal cruelty. Katrina Favrett was sentenced to earlier this week to 40 months behind bars, followed by three years of supervised release. And this is all for her role in an online community centered around the torture of monkeys. The torture of monkeys. The sentencing comes after she pleaded guilty on November 7, 2025, to conspiring to create and distribute Animal Crush videos, along with additional counts of producing the illicit content. Court records reveal that Favre didn't just watch these videos. She was the primary financier and director of the violence. She used encrypted messaging apps to hide her tracks. She sent money to individuals in Indonesia who were willing to carry out the sadistic acts against both baby and adult monkeys for a price. The evidence presented in the case showed a high level of premeditation, and Favrette provided specific, detailed instructions on the exact types of torture she wanted to see performed. Once the videos were filmed and sent back to her. She distributed the footage to other members of her online group. A signed statement of facts confirmed that the videos depicted extreme violence and sadistic acts specifically requested by Favrette and her co conspirators. The announcement of the sentence was made by Principal Deputy Assistant Attorney General Adam Gustafson and that is of the Justice Department's Environment and Natural resources Division and U.S. attorney Dominic S. Garris II for the south for the Southern District of Ohio. The investigation that led to Favrett's arrest was a joint effort between the U.S. fish and Wildlife Service and the FBI and luckily she is done and hopefully no one picks up where she left off. Although I know that she has to be one of many sick, disgusting people out there and I truly think, truly thinks she should do more time than that. But I think this mom should be doing all the time in the world.

Woody (15:20)

It's time for Family Matters.

Cindy Overton (15:29)

A Florida mother is facing criminal charges after deputies say she turned a children's playground dispute into into a coordinated attack. Allegedly, she directed her own kids to assault a 10 year old boy and physically restrain him as they did. She physically restrained them as they attacked him. Ketzian Rivera, who's 41 years old, was arrested following the incident and charged with contributing to the delinquency of a minor child abuse without great bodily harm and false imprisonment. And this is all according to Osceola County Sheriff's Office. I feel like I said that wrong. The confrontation unfolded Monday at a community park inside the Heritage park apartment complex where deputies were called to reports of a disturbance involving multiple children. Investigators say what began as a typical argument among kids quickly spiraled into something far more serious. Also, according to authorities, several of the children involved in the initial dispute left the area and then returned with their mothers, which obviously escalated tensions into a chaotic confrontation between adults as well as the minors. Deputies are saying that Rivera played the central role in the whole thing. In a statement, officials said Rivera pushed her two children, who were ages 8 and 9 towards the 10 year old victim and instructed them to hit him. She then grabbed the victim by his shirt which prevented him from leaving or defending himself. The result was obviously a three on one assault. Responding deputies observed the boy had visible injuries, including significant swelling around his left eye. First responders evaluated him at the scene and while his injuries appeared serious, he was ultimately cleared of life threatening harm. Thank goodness that child's mother later arrived and requested that charges be filed. Additional details from court records say that the situation intensified after the 10 year old insulted Rivera calling her they just have in here a vulgar name. Can only imagine what would come out of a 10 year old's mouth. But officials say that obviously that calling her a name did not justify what happened after Real Life Real Crown the

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by Granger for the ones who get it done. She was actually holding him back where he could not even defend himself. It was a three on one and this is said by Sheriff's Office captain Kim Montes. It's her job as a mom to de escalate this, not ramp it up. And that's exactly what she did here. She she took it to the next level. Authorities have not said whether any other individuals involved in the earlier fight between the children are facing charges. Rivera was booked into the Oscala or Osceola County Jail and later released after posting a $12,000 bond. It is also not clear if she has retained legal counsel or when she will appear next in court. 7 and 8 years old having them beat up a 10 year old and holding the 10 year old down because apparently the 10 year old called her a bad name. I'm going to put this under this.

Woody (22:34)

It's time for effed up professionals. It's time for worldwide crime.

Cindy Overton (22:50)

So we have a British pedophile pop star named Gary Glitter. Now, he hasn't been a pop star since 1972 apparently, but he had a glam rock hit, Rock and Roll Part two, and it soundtracks the iconic staircase scene in the movie the Joker, and he is now a frail shadow of his former self and insiders claim he's likely to die behind bars. Once a chart topper during the 1970s glam scene, glitter became more known for his decades long trial of sex crimes involving young girls, child abuse images and convictions across multiple countries, turning the Idol into one of Britain's most rivaled offenders. Now he's 81 years old and he's on his last legs. Those are in quotes. On his last legs, barely able to move, almost completely deaf and increasingly isolated inside a prison in southwest England. His real name is Paul Gad and he spends up to 23 hours a day alone in his cell on a unit reserved for vulnerable inmates. What about let's don't give him any time away. Put him in a cell with someone that can abuse him for 23 hours a day because he preyed on the vulnerable. Why does he get to be protected? He often moves around in a wheelchair and staff are told about his hearing impairment and reduced mobility. Most people, it seems, would struggle to recognize him now, and fellow inmates are said to believe the former singer will never leave prison alive as he should not. The fallen star's troubles go beyond failing health. He's also under mounting pressure from an ongoing legal battle to to seize his assets after being declared bankrupt. A recent hearing at Bristol County Court has only added to his stress. Despite his condition, Glitter hasn't earned sympathy behind bars as he should not, and other inmates have viewed him as arrogant and tensions remain high, which is another reason he is kept away from gen pop or general population. The disgraced performer is currently serving a 16 year sentence for abusing three young girls. He was previously or briefly released in 2023, but quickly was hauled right back to prison after authorities found disturbing behavior involving minors. Last year, parole officials denied Glitter's release, ruling he still posed a risk due to an uncontrolled interest in young girls. His sentence runs until 2031, with another review not expected until at least next year. Inside prison, Glitter lives under relatively comfortable conditions compared to other inmates, receiving meals in his cell and a small weekly allowance for snacks and personal items. But sources say his declining health and isolation are taking a toll. I mean, he's living the. I mean, not living the dream he's in prison, but Jesus, Jesus, Louise, he's kept safe from getting harmed, which those poor girls weren't. This is the type of stuff that gets me. People go to prison to. I know we're not supposed to abuse them. There is humanity, but what he did is horrible. Someone inside the jail says if he doesn't get parole soon, most officers and inmates think he will see out his last days in jail. Glitter's rap sheet stretches back decades. He was first locked up in 1999 after cops found thousands of child abuse images on his computer, serving just four months before skipping out of the country as the heat closed in. He ran, he got charged and he ran the. Oh my gosh. The sick rocker bounced around overseas and he was booted from Cambodia amid guess what more sex crime claims before being convicted in Vietnam in 2006 for again, guess what? Abusing two young girls who were just 10 and 11 years old, which then landed him behind bars again. He later made his way back to the uk, where he was then arrested at his London penthouse in 2012 and as part of an operation called Operation Yew Tree. And that was the probe that finally helped bring him down for good. And I for one hope he stays exactly where he's at. We're going to go to Iowa. And Iowa authorities have said they cracked the cold case of a young realtor who was murdered 15 years ago. But the killer's motive still remains a mystery. On Wednesday morning, the West Des Moines Police Department announced that it had charged Kristen Elizabeth Ramsey, who was 53 years old, with first degree murder for the killing of 27 year old Ashley Ockland in 2011. On April 8 that year, Ockland was shot twice in a model townhome where she was hosting an open house. An employee with Rutland Homes who was the developer of the property heard commotion outside the townhouse and when she went to investigate, she found Ockland with her fatal wounds and then called 911. The young realtor was rushed to Iowa Methodist Medical center in Des Moines and she was later or she was pronounced dead, west Des Moines Assistant Police Chief Jody Hayes said on Wednesday. Ashley's story has kept many of us awake at night revisiting the details over and over in our minds, searching for that missing piece that would tie everything together and lead us down the right path to identifying a person that was responsible for this act. As I mentioned earlier, it just takes one tiny piece to do that. Notably, however, Hayes did not reveal what that missing piece in the investigation was and what new information led to a break in the decade and a half old case. You go on to say our work is not done yet to maintain the integrity of the judicial process, the West Des Moines Police Department is unable to release any additional investigative information regarding this case. At the time of the murder, Ramsey worked as an administrative assistant and sales manager for Rutland Homes, the same company that Ockland was a realtor for. It is therefore possible that the two women knew each other, but the police did not share Ramsey's suspected motive for the killing. The break in Ockland's murder case came years after her family members were worried that the case had gone cold and it obviously had gone cold, but they were worried it would never be solved. On the fourth anniversary of the young woman's death, the West Des Moines Police Department announced that they had followed up with almost 900 leads and interviewed around 500 people. Ockland's brother Josh said at a recent conference that he thanked the police for continuing to investigate the case after so many years and he said, today is a day my family has thought about very often over the last 14 years. Her sister Brittany Bruce said that Friday afternoon. When Ashley was taken from us seems so long ago. We had lost our hope in finding answers and having any justice for Ashley. It was really difficult to accept that the case had gone cold and like her brother, Bruce also thanked police for not giving up on investigating Ockland's murder. Iowa Attorney General Brenna Byrd also spoke at the Wednesday morning press conference and said, today is why we created the Iowa Cold Case Unit. I hoped and prayed this day would come. No one should ever get away with murder and families deserve answers and there needs to be justice for every victim. Ockland's obituary described her as a beautiful girl inside and out and she enjoyed traveling, concerts, golfing, exercising and just being busy. Ramsay is being held in the Dallas county jail on a 2 million cash only bond, according to Dallas county arrest records, and her first court appearance was on Wednesday and the next one is scheduled for April 10th. Now, if convicted, I'm pretty sure she will be a first degree murder charge. She will face life in prison without the possibility of parole because there is no capital punishment in Iowa. So this is what we're talking about. I know I said that in the middle of the story too, but I cannot, I cannot stress it enough. And when, when you get good police officers behind a case that they lie in bed at night or can't sleep like Woody does, and it just eats at them because they know it's just like right there, there's just something right there and possibly in front of them. Just figuring out how to connect those dots. And then when you get that little nugget that connects the dots, it's just, I got goosebumps as I said that, because I don't even do the work and I just watch it, you know, from the sidelines and feel it. So it's just a, it's just wonderful when you have wonderful people, wonderful police officers, wonderful podcasters like Woody, wonderful people and family members that fight the good fight that, that make things happen.

Woody (34:49)

It's time for Worldwide Crime.

Cindy Overton (34:57)

I'm going to talk to you about a. An Austrian influencer named Stephanie Piper. And she was 32 years old. And I say that because she was stuffed in a suitcase and then buried. And just recently it has been determined that she may have been alive and fighting for her life when she was buried. When she was found buried in the suitcase, she had injuries on her face that could have come from attempting to bludgeon her way out of the suitcase that eventually turned into her coffin. But when she was buried last year, Graz public prosecutor's office said it's quite possible that she was still alive when she was placed in the suitcase. The autopsy could not definitively determine when the young woman died. However, it is equally possible that she was killed by strangulation beforehand. Piper's body was found about a week after she was believed to have been killed, with investigators initially ruling that she was strangled and suffocated to death. She was last seen at a Christmas party on November 23 when she left and sent a friend a series of eerie texts warning a creep and a stairwell. Piper then failed to show up for a photo shoot the next day and the photographer actually went to her apartment to check on her and he is the one that notified police that she wasn't there. Piper's 31 year old ex boyfriend was identified right now as Patrick M. Was quickly arrested and questioned and days later Police went to a spot in the Slovenian forest where the body was ultimately uncovered. The ex reportedly confessed to the crime with an attorney claiming he was high on cocaine at the time and had been left despondent by his actions. My client is completely broken. He deeply regrets his crime. The attorney said he can't understand how he could have been capable of killing the woman he loved more than anything. The suspect was extradited to Austria after being arrested in Slovenia and he remains in custody and is expected to go to court this year. I've seen that a couple times lately in cases I'm not. One high profile case where someone isn't like when being on drugs, when using a drug has been the excuse for being part of a crime or letting a crime occur. I think you should be held just as culpable if you are on drugs and you don't remember committing a crime and you go through the motions, you're. Anyway, I will leave it. I will leave that there. Have you ever. Okay. I know when I was a beginning driver, I was driving in 13. We really could drive at 14 with our temporary license and 15 get our license. But in this small town, it wasn't rare to find very, very, very young person driving. I was lucky. I would drive to school without issue. I drove to the grocery store without issue. It was just sneak out of the house without issue. Like it was good. Well, the first time I actually drove to school with a license, my mom had a brand new car. It was a Chrysler Fifth Avenue. It was gold and I was backing up and I wasn't. I don't think I was supposed to drive that car that day. I think I just wanted to drive it because it was new. I don't, I don't really remember. I didn't have a designated car. I just whatever was available, I drove if it was available. Otherwise I was dropped off completely here nor there, according with this story. But I backed into someone's brand new Honda Accord, I think it was, and I was scared to death. So as teenagers on the road, we do our teenagers, you know, mistakes happen whether they, you know, aren't just paying attention or they didn't realize that that would happen and experience all of the above. Well, like I just said, Most 17 years have done something questionable behind the wheel. There's many things that could happen. But a Welland, Ontario teen managed to run through every traffic violation on the books in a single Saturday night joyride, including something that is so absurd it almost sounds made up. So Ontario provincial police pulled over a 17 year old G2 driver on Highway 406 that was northbound near Highway 20 around 8:20pm last Sunday after clocking the vehicle at a 125 miles per hour. Now the speed limit, it says it's a 68 mile per hour speed zone. And that's where the story takes a turn. As officers prepared to tow the vehicle, they discovered two passengers were tucked away in the trunk. The car had already been found to have four people inside the cabin, which itself violated the teens G2 Novus driver restrictions. But apparently four wasn't even enough. So they still put four in the front of the vehicle and they decided that they were going to put two in the trunk. And so in total the driver is now facing charges of stunt driving for excessive speed, careless driving, novice driving, passenger violations, failure to surrender a permit and failure to have an insurance card. And dad, it was dad's car by the way, which is now impounded for 14 days. And obviously it's not going to go probably well at that teenager's house. I have no idea. And the teen's driver's license was suspended for 30 days which of course they're hoping that it gives him time to reflect on his choices. I can tell you when I did something wrong I would just then go do another wrong thing. Just not on purpose. Sometimes it was okay, I'm not going to get in trouble for that again, you just go do another thing. But police did not release the gender of the driver or the passengers, but did confirm that the vehicle belonged, like I said, to the driver's father. And he the driver's father had no idea his car was being used and are this thing says as both a rocket ship and a people carrier simultaneously. The OPP Highway Safety Division continues to remind drivers that Highway 406 is not a racetrack and trunks are not passenger compartments and G2 licenses come with restrictions that exist for reasons that should now be painfully obvious. That's kind of funny. I mean thank goodness no one got hurt. Can you imagine being in the back of that vehicle with it going so fast? I don't know. But that is all that I have for today. But again, I truly want to thank all of our everyone for liking listening and sharing. Please make sure to go hit that follow button if you don't like the commercials and you're new and you do not know. We offer subscriptions in our app which you can download at the Real life Real Crime Community app in the App Store or Google Play and it is free to download and you immediately have access to all of the conversations going on inside the app. It's like our own little Facebook. Nothing is censored except by Woody or myself. There. It's a free for all. You don't get like, you don't get kicked out for saying gone or, you know, kill those types of things. And then in there we have the option to create a subscription. If you would like to create a subscription in the app, I ask. The easiest way is to just click the button in the app to get it, but that's expensive because more than half of that money goes to Apple. So we ask that you go into the website www.reallifewillcrime.com and sign in. Click Life for levels. Choose the lifer levels. There's 1 for 10, 1 for 20. Choose which one you want to join and then you just go back to your app and everything should be connected there. You can also give this as a gift to someone and if you prefer not to do that, if you're already a Patreon for other podcasts, you can just go to our Patreon and sign up there. Just search Real Life, Real Crime. Please share the podcast. We are making posts each week for what happened to Madison and you can share those posts on Facebook. They're also in the app. Again, we never know who was driving. A lot of what was happening is happening at racetracks. And I looked at racetracks today because if our bad guy is really a bad guy that goes to racetracks, I think there's over 30, just an hour, you know, 30 mile radius. I mean, they're everywhere. So you could have been at a racetrack and saw something similar to what's being talked about on the podcast. You could know someone that knew something that has had an encounter with this person or people of interest or people that have actually experienced issues and experienced scenarios similar to what is being talked about on the podcast and you just don't know what you're going to say that puts everything going in the right direction, I can promise you. Woody got some information yesterday that really just solidified a lot and I'm gonna. I'm trying not to talk about this that much, but it's important. So thank y'. All. Our Speaking of our subscribers, you received episode today of what happened to Madison and everyone else will get it on Tuesday. So we're trying to keep that same scenario going. Early releases on Saturday and then regular release to everyone on all podcast platforms on Tuesday. And I want to thank y' all because we're continuing to rank. We I just got a notification that we are in good pods. Top 58 of true crime. I mean of news podcast, which is an amazing, amazing feat for us to accomplish and we're grateful and it only happens because of you. But again, I will say that I Every time we chart, I don't care about the numbers any more. Woody has won every award that we can. We've been to number one, of course we want to stay up there. But when we chart, what that tells me is that more listeners are coming and there's a whole algorithm. New listeners are coming. That is a big deal. Apple really pays attention to who new is coming in and that is a big part of the algorithm. So when we get those charts, we when we get on those charts and we show forward momentum, we're not just staying stagnant down in the 200s or 150s. When we chart up, that shows me that you are doing exactly what we asked you to do and we thank you. So with that, I am going to say goodbye and we will see you on Monday and have a safe weekend.

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