True Crime Time For May 13, 2025 | Murder of Christina Spicuzza Uber Driver, P-Diddy Has Gray Hair, and Killer Bison at Yellowstone

Summary

Podcast Summary: Real Life Real Crime - "True Crime Time For May 13, 2025"

Hosts:

• Woody Overton
• Cindy Overton

Release Date: May 13, 2025

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Introduction and Personal Anecdotes

The episode begins with Woody and Cindy Overton engaging in their signature light-hearted banter, setting a casual and personable tone for the discussion. Woody humorously grapples with the monotony of "Taco Tuesday," reflecting on personal matters such as family birthdays and his recent time away from home, which Cindy supports by sharing her appreciation for home-cooked meals after Woody's absence.

Notable Quote:
Woody reflects, "I think what other sayings are. Is there besides Taco Tuesdays? for Tuesdays, here's an answer... A well-balanced diet is a taco in each hand." (01:28)

Tragic Murder of Christina Spicuzza

The core of the episode delves into the harrowing case of Christina Spicuzza, a 38-year-old Uber driver who was tragically murdered in February 2022 in Monroeville, Pennsylvania. Cindy narrates the sequence of events where Christina was abducted by Calvin Crew, a 22-year-old male passenger.

Key Details:

• Abduction and Murder: Calvin Crew pulled a gun on Christina during their ride, forcing her to continue driving despite her pleas for mercy captured on the dash cam (05:56).
• Investigation and Conviction: The investigation swiftly implicated Crew through dash cam footage, GPS data, and messages from his girlfriend. In February 2025, Crew was convicted of first-degree murder, robbery, kidnapping, and related charges. He was sentenced on May 5, 2025, to life imprisonment without parole plus additional years for other offenses. Notably, Crew did not attend his sentencing.

Notable Quotes:

• Cindy expresses frustration, "This should not be allowed," highlighting the family's desire for harsher penalties (09:02).
• Woody vents his anger, stating, "Don't even grease them up. Rape them and kill them or whatever." (08:46)

Legal Ramifications and Family Impact

The discussion transitions to the legal outcome, where Cindy emphasizes the family's grief and the justice system's role in providing closure despite their desire for the death penalty, which the prosecution respected in honor of Christina's religious beliefs. Brandon Mardo, Christina's fiancé, criticizes Crew for his cowardice in not facing the family in court.

Notable Quote:
Brandon Mardo remarks, "You should have the balls to stick a gun to someone's head and kill her." (09:39)

Case of Lori Diane Potter

Shifting focus, Woody and Cindy recount the cold case of Lori Diane Potter from Rancho San Diego, California. Discovered in October 2003 with severed legs found in a dumpster, the case remained unsolved due to lack of identifying information. Advances in DNA technology led authorities to identify Lori through distant relatives and ultimately convict her husband, Jack Dennis Potter, in February 2025.

Key Details:

• Discovery: Severed legs of a 54-year-old woman were found, initially leading to a cold case.
• Identification and Conviction: DNA evidence connected the remains to Lori, and further investigation revealed her husband had been living under her identity, leading to his guilty plea for second-degree murder in February 2025. He was sentenced to 15 years to life in prison on May 2, 2025.

Notable Quotes:

• Woody shares his satisfaction with solving cold cases, "That's why I love, love, love to bust a good cold case." (30:25)
• Cindy underscores the prolonged agony for Lori's family, "20 Christmases and birthdays and mother's days and whatever." (30:34)

"Beast Mode" Crime: Bison Attack at Yellowstone

Introducing a lighter yet intriguing segment, Woody and Cindy discuss a peculiar incident involving a bison attack at Yellowstone National Park. A 47-year-old man from Cape Coral, Florida, was gored by a bison after approaching it too closely on May 4, 2025.

Key Details:

• Incident Description: The man sustained minor injuries and was treated on-site. This was noted as the first reported bison attack in 2025, with two prior incidents in 2024.
• Authorities' Response: The National Park Service issued a public service announcement advising visitors to maintain safe distances from wildlife, emphasizing the unpredictability and strength of bison.

Notable Quotes:

• Woody humorously suggests extreme retaliation against the attacker, "They should kill him just like they got killed." (24:43)
• Cindy adds levity, "He better be. That's horrible." (24:53)

Public Service Announcements and Safety Tips

Woody and Cindy reinforce safety measures for national park visitors, particularly emphasizing the importance of maintaining distance from large animals like bison, bears, and wolves to prevent aggressive encounters.

Notable Quote:
Woody underscores the seriousness of wildlife safety, "You go to Yellowstone, don't fuck with the bison because you can kick them in a ding ding." (35:01)

Closing Remarks and Reflections

The episode concludes with Woody and Cindy reflecting on the discussed cases, intertwining humor with their genuine concern for victims and public safety. They express empathy for the affected families and reiterate the importance of respecting wildlife boundaries.

Notable Quote:
Woody wraps up with a light-hearted yet earnest note, "I love, love, love to bust a good cold case." (30:25) and Cindy emphasizes the need for better understanding and preventive measures.

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Transcript

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[Woody Overton]

Hello everybody and welcome this episode of True Crime. Time for Tuesday, May the 13th. And I'm Woody Overton.

[Cindy Overton]

I am Cindy Overton.

[Woody Overton]

Taco Tuesday. Come up with something besides that? Yes, because I think what other sayings are. Is there besides Taco Tuesdays? For Tuesdays, here's an answer from foodtruckempire.com the only bad taco is the one you didn't eat. Live every day like Taco Tuesday. A well balanced diet is a taco in each hand. It's not what I wanted.

[Cindy Overton]

No, that's not what you wanted.

[Woody Overton]

So I guess there is none.

[Cindy Overton]

I think that you might have hit your. Your taco wall.

[Woody Overton]

No, I think it was more like. Yeah, I love the tacos and I know they're easy for you to make everything else. But I think it was because I was gone for like three weeks with my dad, my mom.

[Cindy Overton]

Yeah.

[Woody Overton]

And all that stuff. I just wanted some home cooked.

[Cindy Overton]

Yeah.

[Woody Overton]

I mean. Yeah. Here's what it is. The Taco Tuesday, middle of May almost.

[Cindy Overton]

Yeah.

[Woody Overton]

The year is five months and done.

[Cindy Overton]

Yeah. Today is the day that my first brother was born.

[Woody Overton]

Is it?

[Cindy Overton]

Yeah.

[Woody Overton]

Man, we got a ton of birthdays this month.

[Cindy Overton]

Yeah.

[Woody Overton]

My nieces and nephews, my two older brothers and. And to my nieces and nephews. Happy birthday. Laugh. And one of my older brothers. Happy birthday. But anyway, what do you have for us?

[Cindy Overton]

I've got an Uber driver that gets killed.

[Woody Overton]

Let's talk about this for a minute. Because there are younger generation out there. Doesn't remember yellow taxis and the. Back in the day before, there were debit cards and credit card. Well, they had credit cards, but you had to run the paper copies. And you remember when you had to go to bank if you want money for on a Friday, there were no ATMs.

[Cindy Overton]

No.

[Woody Overton]

You had to go to the bank, take it out of your savings account or your checking account, or you had to find a local store that would cash a check for you.

[Cindy Overton]

Yes.

[Woody Overton]

Couldn't get it.

[Cindy Overton]

No.

[Woody Overton]

Nowadays you just get anything anywhere. You've got fake money that's. That's in the atmosphere, Bitcoin and all that.

[Cindy Overton]

Yeah.

[Woody Overton]

And anyway. Oh, back to what I want to say. You get a taxi and they were owned generally by one or two companies. Well, not in the major cities, may add more. But like in Baton Rouge there was like one taxi company like Yellow Cab or. Yeah. And. And you got in a deep. Pull the handle.

[Cindy Overton]

Yeah.

[Woody Overton]

Pulled a handle and the meter started spinning. It was. And I'm pretty sure every one of those was jerry rigged, like the old GABA gambling establishments and all. And you know, wasn't really a nice place to ride.

[Cindy Overton]

No.

[Woody Overton]

And they're expensive af, so whenever they came out with Uber and then the other ride shares and all that. That's pretty genius.

[Cindy Overton]

Yeah.

[Woody Overton]

So although I've ridden in some bad ones now. I told you that time I went to Detroit, got off the plane and I had to go like 45 minutes for a fancy meeting and I'm in a coat and tie and I gotta get the one Uber driver in the world's got no air conditioner, windows down, had to stop and get gas on the way. I'm like, I'm paying you. And, and, and I mean this car didn't. You know it had like one rim or one, one hub cap, dents all in it, paints off of it. And I'm pulling up this high profile meeting, wind blown, sweat my ass off. It was in the middle of summer in Detroit and I'm like, what are the chances I get the one? Yeah. Because I'm sure there's some really nice Ubers and I'm sure there's a shit bag like I had that time. Yeah, I've taken a thousand of them. Yeah, but y' all probably don't remember world without Ubers.

[Cindy Overton]

They probably don't.

[Woody Overton]

Now tell us you definitely don't remember a world without people getting killed.

[Cindy Overton]

That's for sure. That's for sure. Well, there's a 38 year old mother of four, her name is Christina Spacuza. And. And the event happened in February of 2022.

[Woody Overton]

The event was like a Lady Gaga concert.

[Cindy Overton]

Now I'm going to tell you what the event was. So Christina was earning extra money driving Uber.

[Woody Overton]

Yes.

[Cindy Overton]

And she picked up a young man named Calvin crew. He was 22. He requested the Uber using his girlfriend's phone, unbeknownst to Christina. Calvin, really? Calvin wasn't a good guy. So shortly into their journey together, Crew was seated in the back, and he pulled a gun and pressed it against the back of Christina's head.

[Woody Overton]

Nice.

[Cindy Overton]

And the dash cam footage shows Christina pleading for her life. And she's saying, I'm begging you. I can't do Matt. I'm going. I could actually cry. I have four kids.

[Woody Overton]

No crying and podcasting.

[Cindy Overton]

Despite her desperate pleas, Crew forced her to continue driving. And eventually he noticed the dash cam and he disabled it. So fast forward two days, where Christina's body was discovered in a wooded area in Monroeville. And she had suffered a fatal gunshot wound to the head.

[Woody Overton]

That shit went up to the cloud or something.

[Cindy Overton]

So the investigation quickly led to cruise arrest. Evidence, including the dash cam footage, GPS data, and messages from his girlfriend implicated him in the crime. And so In February of 2025, Crew was found guilty of first degree murder. Where was this robbery? This was in Monroeville, Pennsylvania.

[Woody Overton]

Does Pennsylvania have the death penalty? I found this on the web. They damn sure should have it for people like that. One second. 2023, Governor Josh Pierre announces that he will continue his protest. Moratorium on execution. So, nope, this asshole doesn't get the death penalty.

[Cindy Overton]

No. And so it gets worse. This is. I was very upset about the next part of it, but. He was found guilty of first degree murder, robbery, kidnapping, and related charges.

[Woody Overton]

It's called aggravating circumstances.

[Cindy Overton]

On May 5th of 2025, he was sentenced to life in prison without the possibility of parole, plus an additional 13 to 26 years for the other offenses. However, Crew did not attend his sentencing.

[Woody Overton]

Well, he didn't have to.

[Cindy Overton]

Well, don't they get. Doesn't the other side get to do victim impact statements and all that? I mean, don't you.

[Woody Overton]

Shows up. They still do victim impact statements without.

[Cindy Overton]

How can you not be made to go in here? What you.

[Woody Overton]

Well, hey, if I'm good, I'm not taking this dude's side. But I'm pretty sure. And I'm getting multiple life sentences. I don't need to. I already know I'm a shitbag and I don't need to hear the mom tell me about it.

[Cindy Overton]

That should not be allowed.

[Woody Overton]

Never thought about that, but that's true. Not that I would ever be in that position. That dude's a fucking idiot.

[Cindy Overton]

So Christina's mother expressed the family's grief and anger, stating, you should have the death penalty. But we showed mercy. And her fiance. Christina's fiance, Brandon Mardo, called Crew a coward for not facing the family in court. The family had requested that prosecutors not seek the death penalty, which honored Christina's religious beliefs. And he should have had the balls. You have the balls to stick a gun to someone's head and kill her. You should have the balls.

[Woody Overton]

It's not like the. They carried a bunch of cash. Everybody swipes cars.

[Cindy Overton]

Exactly.

[Woody Overton]

Pays on their phone.

[Cindy Overton]

You should be made to go to court.

[Woody Overton]

They should kill him just like they got killed. If they get raped and killed, they should take some big bulls out of the penitentiary. Don't even grease them up. Rape them and kill them or whatever. Right. And do it in the public pay per view. So the. I hate that and sad night, y' all. When I told Cindy she couldn't cry, that's kind of running joke between her and. I know it was made at a bad time. I'm not, you know, I just don't like to see my wife cry because I can't fix it. All right, let me tell you something again. We don't cover like this, but I have to mention P. Diddy, and I'm gonna mention about six different times because everything when they were doing this research, everything's PD this, PD this, and. And I'm almost. We should make a show about how stupid these stories are about P. Diddy.

[Cindy Overton]

Yeah.

[Woody Overton]

And. But it. But being ever so popular that, you know, everybody in the world's Google and P. Diddy. And so I know you'll put it in the notes, but here's just a couple of headlines. I'm not going to tell you stories. So evidently, Michael B. Jordan. I'm assuming that's Michael Jordan's son, the greatest basketball player of all time. His name came up during jury selection for Diddy's trial. That's one story not going to raise you. Second story is. Oh, let me throw in the middle. There's no celebrities in trouble. Smokey Robinson is accused of alleged rape, sexual assault. Blah, blah, blah. And a new lawsuit. Michael Bakar, Jordan's American actor, producer and director. Da, da, da, da. I said it's not Michael Jordan's son. All right, so another Michael Jordan. I didn't know who the he was. All Right.

[Cindy Overton]

He was the one that was in Creed.

[Woody Overton]

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. That's so good. Boxing movies, man. Goodbye. I like. Y' all know I'm a huge, huge fan of boxing. Both one of my grandfather's box still. She one other one box at usl. All right, next story. Prospective Diddy juror excused after admitting he can't go a day without smoking weed. I mean, what the fuck? This is news. Wait a minute. Very next story. Potential juror was scrapped because she thinks Diddy can buy his way out of jail. These are separate news stories, separate outlets, separate everything. So they're trying to one up each other on Diddy stories. Right? Let me just give you another one. You ready for this one? Diddy displays gray hair in court for jury selection after seven months in jail. Right? This is news. I mean, come on, man. Yeah, they. I mean, he's not dying his hair anymore and he's going to court. I'm pretty sure that's as a defense thing, like dressing or clown of survey. No, let your gray hair grow out. They think dick can't get hard, right?

[Cindy Overton]

Yeah.

[Woody Overton]

So we're not done yet. Wait, wait. These are. Believe it or not, there are podcasts out there that will cover each one of these stories in depth. Yeah, and get a hundred thousand listens because it's P. Diddy. P. Diddy.

[Cindy Overton]

It's just I don't think they're getting that many listens. I think they're just covering it.

[Woody Overton]

Stupid name. Anyway, who calls themselves P. Diddy? Let's see if I can give you at least one more.

[Cindy Overton]

He took the pee off. He just called himself Diddy after a while. Okay, well, I'm joking, baby.

[Woody Overton]

P. Diddy is what they're calling them in the news. And you know what? Fucking. I'm not even reading any more of these. That's enough. Put P. Diddy in our search engine.

[Cindy Overton]

And we might lose people if we put it.

[Woody Overton]

I know. We're not losing it because we're not reading the stories. We. We.

[Cindy Overton]

No, I'm saying people, we should get.

[Woody Overton]

Awards for not reading the about pd. Now, I'm not making light. People being raped in human trafficking. And yes, we are this month started in human trafficking series. All right, but it's just stupid. All right, but I'm a. Lighten it up for a second and give you a. It's time for beast mode. And I don't know how much this is really the animals the beast, but it is a beast mode crime and it's a federal crime. Federal authorities have released A sketch of a suspect. And yes, I'm going to tell you with the who, what, when, where and why in just a second. They've released a sketch of the suspect who could face prison time under the Marine Mammal Protection Act. We're in Oregon. All right, we're on. We're on the beach. Okay, you're gonna ask. There's a marine life in Oregon. They have the ocean. The Pacific Ocean. And I just said we're on the beach.

[Cindy Overton]

Jesus, you caught me up way too early.

[Woody Overton]

I did get you up early this morning. Thank you for getting us, sweetie. All right, so federal authorities are looking for the person who. I mean, come on man, you gotta take three guesses. What kind of beast mode marine federal crime can they commit?

[Cindy Overton]

I have no idea. I mean, so that's they can kill a whale.

[Woody Overton]

That's your second guess?

[Cindy Overton]

That was my first guess. Was kill a whale.

[Woody Overton]

Well, you're. Give me two more.

[Cindy Overton]

Oh, my second guess is going to be they I have no idea. Killed a shark.

[Woody Overton]

Time's up.

[Cindy Overton]

Turtle. Delta turtle.

[Woody Overton]

You got to quit guessing. All right, so the authorities are looking for the person who stabbed a baby seal several times on the beach at a Covid.

[Cindy Overton]

That's my favorite zoo animal that in the otters. No, no, no, no, no, no, wait.

[Woody Overton]

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And now they want help from the public to identify its attacker. And this the national oceanic and Atmospheric Administration. That's what they said. They want help. Who in the stabs? A baby seal. But anyway, the stabbing occurred on March 16 between 8 and 11:30pm at a beach cove near a condominium in the Nihsakan, Oregon. According to the noaa, the baby seal began to heal by mid April with no signs of lasting injuries. But they said now, quote, young elephant seals like this often spend time on their own, learning to hunt and growing larger before eventually returning to breeding areas in and around the Channel Islands off of Southern California. That's according to Michael Milstein, who's a public affairs officer for the noaa. But on Monday the agency released a sketch and described the suspect as a white man who's 5ft 10 inches tall with black and white hair, a groomed beard and a large gap between his front teeth. This is a fucking person made the sketch making out with this dude the and this court noa's announcement. They said he was wearing aviator glasses with thick lenses and a thin blue and green fleece top and a low profile black cap with a logo depicting an orange four track excavator with the word timber on it.

[Cindy Overton]

How do they.

[Woody Overton]

I'm telling you, they must have been fucking this dude. They take off all his clothes and see the gap in his teeth. But this according to New York New York Times. They said he also wore dark pants, lightweight hiking shoes or low boots. Now I mean, why in the fuck have they come out with this before? I mean, what's the deal? I don't know. But per description, the NOAA are also seeking a vehicle. Not only did we have everything, he must have been going command day because the only thing they describe is his underwear. But per description, he's also seeking a vehicle seen in the parking lot next to the COVID behind the condos. Listen to this. The inside of his dark blue 1990s Dodge or Chrysler van was described as cluttered. And the rear passenger window on the driver's side was covered in plastic. All right, now my theory has changed. They were him in the van. And y' all whenever you see a window covered in plastic. Now that we probably that truck I drove all the way to Elvis. I was gonna say polygraph. I didn't have a window. I didn't have a window in that truck. That's how po we were when we had our kids getting everything Straight. But anyway, they got everything on this dude. But the federal Marine Mammal Protection act prohibits harassing, harming, killing or feeding wild elephant seals and other marine anim. And they can face criminal penalties of $100,000 in fines and one year in jail.

[Cindy Overton]

Why did he. They know everything else. So why did he stab the poor seal? What did the seal do to him?

[Woody Overton]

I don't know. Maybe his. His light bill was out. He was trying to cut some blubber off the seal to burn oil.

[Cindy Overton]

Literally.

[Woody Overton]

Really? Or maybe he cut some fat off so he could go screw and whoever inside the back of that van. I mean, you know everything he's wearing gap in his teeth. Good. Describe his clothes down to the T. Describe the inside of his van. It's got to be more of the story. Shame on you, seal stabber.

[Cindy Overton]

That funny.

[Woody Overton]

He lived the seals okay, his trauma traumatized.

[Cindy Overton]

He's got PTSD now.

[Woody Overton]

Swimming out there eating heron and on his way back to Southern California. He's living his best life.

[Cindy Overton]

He better be. That's horrible.

[Woody Overton]

I want you to top that story.

[Cindy Overton]

I can't.

[Woody Overton]

Right.

[Cindy Overton]

I'm going.

[Woody Overton]

There's nothing left to be said after the jam like that we're gonna stick.

[Cindy Overton]

In the California area.

[Woody Overton]

I got one more that could top it, but I'll let. No, no, you go first.

[Cindy Overton]

Okay. So, in rancho San Diego, California. Rancho San Diego, on October 5, 2003. It was a quiet Sunday morning and a maintenance worker at the Country Hills apartment complex made a discovery at the garbage. What?

[Woody Overton]

Dead babies in the trash?

[Cindy Overton]

No, he was at the dumpster and he saw something. Do you want to guess?

[Woody Overton]

Penis in the trash? No, no, I don't want to guess.

[Cindy Overton]

There was a pair of severed human legs protruding from the dumpster.

[Woody Overton]

So legs minus the penis.

[Cindy Overton]

Well, the remains were determined to be female.

[Woody Overton]

Vagina. Well, duh. Still could have had a penis.

[Cindy Overton]

That's what I'm thinking. But without a missing person's report or further identifying information, the case went cold.

[Woody Overton]

Yeah, they're like, fuck it. Got nothing to go on.

[Cindy Overton]

So the victim, which they didn't know at the time.

[Woody Overton]

But wait, wait, wait. They knew there was a victim.

[Cindy Overton]

They knew there was a victim, but.

[Woody Overton]

They didn't know nobody cut off their own legs and wasn't a victim of that.

[Cindy Overton]

Okay, I'm going to tell you who the victim was at the time of the this. That this happened. They didn't know this was the victim.

[Woody Overton]

Okay, but that she was definitely a victim.

[Cindy Overton]

This is why people say I'm stupid. They don't like Hearing anything that I have to say that I can't complete a thought. This is why we get the bad reviews, okay?

[Woody Overton]

Keep them coming because I'm gonna keep doing what I do. All right, back to the victim. We've established it's a female victim. We don't have penis vagina. But it's female victim.

[Cindy Overton]

She was 50 year old.

[Woody Overton]

Or the female victim's legs.

[Cindy Overton]

She was 54 year old.

[Woody Overton]

Shaved them.

[Cindy Overton]

I'm gonna shave your legs, cut them off and stick them in our dumpster and see if they identify them as a female legs.

[Woody Overton]

No, my legs are shaped from like the.

[Cindy Overton]

The jeans and the boots rubbing up against them for years.

[Woody Overton]

Yeah, that's honestly our truth. Below the kneecap. Well, to the top of my boots. Because I wore boots for so many years. I have no hair on my legs.

[Cindy Overton]

That's true.

[Woody Overton]

It's true.

[Cindy Overton]

Okay, can we get back to Lori, please?

[Woody Overton]

I didn't know her name was Lori.

[Cindy Overton]

You weren't listening to me. You were too concerned about your legs.

[Woody Overton]

This is true.

[Cindy Overton]

The hair on your legs.

[Woody Overton]

No hair on my legs. The half.

[Cindy Overton]

The lack of hair on your legs you got.

[Woody Overton]

We don't know if it. If Lori, you said her name was. Was it. Was she cut off below the knees or at the waist?

[Cindy Overton]

I just said legs.

[Woody Overton]

She might not hair on hers. She might have wore boots 25 years lately.

[Cindy Overton]

The victim was 54 year old Lori Diane Potter of Temecula, California. Her husband, Jack Dennis Potter, never reported her missing.

[Woody Overton]

I'm pretty sure. Ding, ding, ding, ding. We have a winner.

[Cindy Overton]

He began a new life using Lori's identity. He opened credit cards in her name. He spent lavishly. He purchased a Hummer, a ski boat, and even rented an apartment for a new girlfriend he met at a strip club.

[Woody Overton]

Same. Shame on you and her.

[Cindy Overton]

Luckily for him, her name was also Lori, so he didn't have to worry about, you know, messing up. Were you with Lori last night? Yes, I was with Lori last night, Laura.

[Woody Overton]

At the. The wrong moment.

[Cindy Overton]

When they're being intimate or when you're playing Monopoly.

[Woody Overton]

Shut up, Lori. There's no crying in podcast. Sorry. I'm sorry for the victim. I'm not making light of that. This dude's an idiot.

[Cindy Overton]

So he. He continued this fraudulent lifestyle for years, including selling their home and filing false court documents. But in 2020, investigators revisited the case using DNA. That's right. And they solved. They had solved other cold cases. So they're like, why don't we just try it here? And they identified Lori through distant relatives. DNA and also then once they identified that, they got her son's DNA, and then that's how they were for sure with the match.

[Woody Overton]

Fourth time familiar DNA.

[Cindy Overton]

So that led authorities to Jack Potter, which was her husband. So In February of 2025, Potter pleaded guilty to second degree murder, admitting to smothering his wife. But there's no mention of her legs. So on May 2, 2025, he was sentenced to 15 years to life in prison. District Attorney Summer Steffen highlighted the years of grief Lori's loved ones endured and emphasized the justice system's commitment.

[Woody Overton]

20 years ago.

[Cindy Overton]

20 years, he got to live and have Lori the stripper. And the poor son had no idea what happened to his mother.

[Woody Overton]

And it's just any lied to him for 20 years. 20 Christmases and birthdays and mother's days and whatever. That's why I love, love, love to bust a good cold case.

[Cindy Overton]

He admitted to suffocating her, but there's no mention of the legs. At what point did he decide to cut her legs off?

[Woody Overton]

Well, I'm sure If he put two legs in one dumpster and nothing else, it was 20 years ago. There might have been two arms in another dumpster. One of the stores I remember, and it was a guy from Louisiana, and he cut the woman up and he put her in a bunch of different dumpsters, his favorite dumpsters to put them in. You know what it was?

[Cindy Overton]

The green. The big green ones.

[Woody Overton]

Location.

[Cindy Overton]

Oh, the mall.

[Woody Overton]

No, behind daycares because all the shitty diapers.

[Cindy Overton]

Oh.

[Woody Overton]

Pretty smart, actually.

[Cindy Overton]

Yeah.

[Woody Overton]

So. Wow. Well, there you go. We're just full of good today, literally. All right, so you know what the. And again, we hate that for Lori and her family. Not this. Not the. You call it a stripper. That's. That's being so.

[Cindy Overton]

So she's a stripper.

[Woody Overton]

Shoving this.

[Cindy Overton]

An exotic professional.

[Woody Overton]

Yeah. What's her name? Exotic dancers, Pole swingers. All right, so let's go. Hey, strippers got to make a living. See, okay, there once was a man from Florida, right? And you know, Florida is just about as far south as you can get.

[Cindy Overton]

United States. Yes.

[Woody Overton]

Yeah, that's. That's what I meant. And just about as far north west as you can get. Just about lies. The Yellowstone national park, okay? So this dude goes on vacation for Florida, okay? He's tired of looking at the ocean and shit. He's like, I want to go up, look at the great national park, right?

[Cindy Overton]

Yeah.

[Woody Overton]

See all the shit that I can see the mountains and breeze and clean mountain air and look at the wildlife and Everything else. It's time for beast mode. And I'm pretty sure the story of the beast was just being a beast, and this dude was just being a dumbass from Florida that went to Yellowstone. So he goes up there and he's just hanging out and seeing the good. And yeah, you might see some elk or a bear or whatever. Well, he saw her bison. Buffalo.

[Cindy Overton]

Yeah, buffalo.

[Woody Overton]

Right, yeah, so. And well, on Sunday, May 4, he was attacked by buffalo.

[Cindy Overton]

What Are you okay?

[Woody Overton]

Around 3:15pm the man, who's 47 years old, was gored by a bison after he approached it too closely in the Lake Village area, the Yellowstone National Park. Now, the location of the incident, which includes dining and lodging, is where bison are commonly found in the park. I think the bison is like the kind of mixed breed they did to bring buffalo back. Yeah, there's something in there. I can't remember exactly what it is. But anyway, the. So you guys hang out to a spot like the mud. I think we lost that episode last week where the guy climbed over the enclosure to take a picture with crocodile.

[Cindy Overton]

You did tell the story well at the end of another episode.

[Woody Overton]

So this dude's from Cape Coral, Florida. And didn't you just do the story on that? It was cape or somewhere else, but yeah, whatever. And he. So he. He sustained minor injuries and was treated by emergency medical personnel. And now the National Park Service is investigating this because they ain't got dick else to do.

[Cindy Overton]

Well, they should. And they should arrest him for messing with the bison.

[Woody Overton]

They said this is the first reported incident of a person injured by bison. A bison in 2025. Then there were two reported incidents in 2024.

[Cindy Overton]

It's like getting Bruce Alexis.

[Woody Overton]

I was about to say it. I was the only in the country to catch it. And that. That comes from up there, from animal to human. But up there is. I think. I think if 30% of the herd has Bruce loose, they got to kill the whole fucking herd. Say this dude needs to go get checked.

[Cindy Overton]

Well, he needs to go buy a lottery ticket, too.

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[Woody Overton]

I know, right? So I'm pretty sure there's a lot more lottery tickets sold than there are bison that stab motherfuckers. But the. Anyway, in 2024, two people were stabbed or were not stabbed or were injured.

[Cindy Overton]

By bison attacks at Yellowstone or just in general.

[Woody Overton]

I'm pretty sure it's not a bison attack. I'm gonna tell you about this. The first one in 2024 occurred in April and that animal attacked a four year old man after a 40 year old man. After what?

[Cindy Overton]

He poked him.

[Woody Overton]

He kicked the bison.

[Cindy Overton]

Well, that's a poke.

[Woody Overton]

I mean, what the.

[Cindy Overton]

Why would you do that?

[Woody Overton]

I'm gonna walk up, I'm gonna walk up to this 2,000pound animal. I'm gonna kick him in the ding dong. No, man. And. And then bison did what bison said. You, you with a bull, you're gonna get the horn. Right? And on top of after getting attacked by the bison, he was arrested and charged with four counts including disturbing wildlife. Right. Amongst others. But shortly after, In June of 2024, an 83 year old woman was seriously injured after a bison attacked her near Yellowstone Light.

[Cindy Overton]

Okay, so that's like your mother. Wonder what she did.

[Woody Overton]

Well, I don't know, but I'm going to tell you, but I do know is bison are known to defend their space if they feel threatened. Public service Now Public Service Announcement 1,000,000 2004 bison are known to defend their space if they feel threatened. Additionally, bison have injured more people than any other animal in Yellowstone. Okay? They are unpredictable and can run three times faster than humans. American bison are the largest animals in North America. So they're bigger than fucking grizzly bears. And this according to the U.S. department of Interior. They weigh up to 2,000 pounds and reach heights of 6ft. And they can jump high fences like a deer and are strong swimmers. All right?

[Cindy Overton]

Yeah.

[Woody Overton]

So y' all put all that together. You go to Yellowstone, don't fuck with the bison because you can kick them in a ding ding. You think you can outrun them or you can outswim them and you can out jump because it ain't gonna happen. All right. So now the National Park Service advises park visitors stay more than 25 yards away from all large animals. Part of public service now, which include bison, elk, bighorn sheep, deer, moose and coyotes. Yes, even coyotes. You have to warn people. Now the park also states people should keep a distance of at least 100 yards from bears and wolves. You don't have to tell me to stay more than 100 yards away from bears and wolves. And, and if I am that close to them, I'll have my.300 Winchester Short Magnum rifle where I can get them at 400 yards at least before they can charge me. But public service announcement continues. Wild animals can be aggressive if people don't respect their space. They actually paid a National Park Service worker to write this shit out and do this press release, they said. And continue the public service announcement. If wildlife approach you move away. Maintain these safe viewing distances. Okay. I know a lot of things about a lot of things and I know very little about a lot of things also. But I'm pretty sure you didn't have to tell Woody Overton any of that.

[Cindy Overton]

I'm surprised they didn't tell you how to estimate a distance of 100 yards or like I'm surprised they didn't go into that much detail because people are going to say well I didn't know what 100 yards was.

[Woody Overton]

Right. I mean next thing is going to be required that everybody visits Yellowstone national park has to carry a range finder.

[Cindy Overton]

Exactly right. Exactly.

[Woody Overton]

Little Johnny, get back. You're. You're at 99 yards. That grizzly is charging you.

[Cindy Overton]

What the hell turned into.

[Woody Overton]

Why are you with these wild ass animals? Hey, that's a national park. So they can live wow. And free in their own habitat. They're not hunted. There's nothing that goes on there except they're being beast. They are actually it's time for beast mode. For all those people. It was time for beast mode.

[Cindy Overton]

I wonder if you had a gap to.

[Woody Overton]

We've got. Well first of all y' all we're gonna send in some requests. Y' all send us some samples of sounds that you like to hear these stories open with. But we've got to have a stupid button like the guy that taking. I'm. I'm gonna crawl across this moat and this fence and because there's this giant. By the way it says crocodile exhibit. He thought but stop. There's a crocs crocodile exhibit. Got a high fence. Got A moat. You see this giant crocodile and you take it upon yourself. 29 years old. Go take it upon yourself to climb that fence, swim the moat and get up and take a selfie with a fake crocodile.

[Cindy Overton]

Mm.

[Woody Overton]

And then get your ass tore up.

[Cindy Overton]

And the zoo person we need told him not to before he did it, he.

[Woody Overton]

And you still got your ass up. That's why I'm saying, to my point, we need a idiot button. Yeah, something like that.

[Cindy Overton]

Yeah.

[Woody Overton]

Right.

[Cindy Overton]

Yeah.

[Woody Overton]

I'm not gonna change all this up anyway.

[Cindy Overton]

Yeah.

[Woody Overton]

Work on y' all. Send in your. What you think you would want to hear. You know, naturally. Gotta have, I think playing Trains and Automobiles. Cool. Sugar Turner. Every once in a while ran like a Is good beast mode. I mean, they're all good, but what kind of. We could put like some different. Something besides my boy Swan or whatever.

[Cindy Overton]

Yeah. There's eight different things. Yeah.

[Woody Overton]

Yeah. Can't you make it more?

[Cindy Overton]

Well, then that would require you to come over here and press a button and scroll through and change them up and.

[Woody Overton]

So you're saying I'm dumb and that's outside of my warehouse?

[Cindy Overton]

Not saying.

[Woody Overton]

Well, I'm gonna go ahead and agree with you.

[Cindy Overton]

I'm saying that. I'm just saying what it would require.

[Woody Overton]

Okay. All right. Anyway, there you have it. We love and appreciate each and every one of y' all. Couldn't even come up with something different for Taco Tuesday. But damn it, we might have just saved your life. If you're going to Yellowstone National Park. Right?

[Cindy Overton]

Well, let's just don't even make it Yellowstone. How about you extend the parameters to include.

[Woody Overton]

Yes. Public service announcement extension. We're changing it to a. Yeah. All national parks.

[Cindy Overton]

How about life in general? You see a wild animal, you know the.

[Woody Overton]

If you see a Lamborghini coming down the interstate, you stand beside interstate at 210 miles an hour. You think Lamborghini is pretty cool. You're not gonna run out in front of it and try to touch it.

[Cindy Overton]

Yeah, you would. These people.

[Woody Overton]

That's why we need a effing idiot button or something. But hey, Liam, Marie, y' all come up with. With. We got. We're not going to do dumb criminals because not all of them are criminals. But just. And I know you don't like the word stupid.

[Cindy Overton]

Stupid people I've grown to. To. I'm not like a teacher anymore and our kids are, you know, like. It goes with. We couldn't even say but like. B U T T. No, that was. No.

[Woody Overton]

When I was a kid, you only get the slapped out of you. You say but or crap or whatever.

[Cindy Overton]

Shut up. Wasn't allowed. That's no part of my. Part of my.

[Woody Overton]

No, but shut up. The. Any of that.

[Cindy Overton]

So stupid. As a mom and a teacher, that's where that kind of stemmed from. I don't want anyone to ever think as a child that they're stupid, that they can't learn, you know, that type of thing.

[Woody Overton]

Somebody's calling child stupid, then they're stupid.

[Cindy Overton]

Right, but not the child. No, the caller. But I don't want the child to ever hear that.

[Woody Overton]

Well, I mean, put you one. One hand, another.

[Cindy Overton]

Well, I was gonna play my role in that.

[Woody Overton]

Which does.

[Cindy Overton]

Never use it and never allowed our kids to use it.

[Woody Overton]

Okay, we want something besides stupid. How about definitely in spongebob?

[Cindy Overton]

No. Spongebob. No spongebob. That.

[Woody Overton]

No, that's Cindy and I. The demise and I were in different marriages, raising kids at pretty much same age. Cindy's Ellie and Sophia couldn't watch spongebob. Pretty much anything else. Katelyn.

[Cindy Overton]

Nickelodeon was full of spongebob.

[Woody Overton]

Spongebob was a great single dad parent for me. And I think I was so thankful it wasn't Barney anymore because then I was really poor and only had one VHS. And Kate would come, she was like 2 years old. And we watched Barney over and over and over again. Hey, if I went to Yellowstone, I saw Barney, I would kill that.

[Cindy Overton]

No, it would kill you, not Barney.

[Woody Overton]

Because I, I've been maintained over 100 yards distance with a rifle.

[Cindy Overton]

Maintain over 100 yards.

[Woody Overton]

Right. All right. And I'm pretty sure Barney, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm a slow. And especially 55 years old, I'd probably be slow, although I'm very good at distance running, or used to be. But I. Even in my heaviest, I'm pretty sure I could outrun Barney.

[Cindy Overton]

There's no reason why 2 year olds should be watching Spongebob ever. It's just.

[Woody Overton]

Unless you're a single father and you're doing what you got to do.

[Cindy Overton]

Yeah, well, nowadays I think you have. There's a lot more options.

[Woody Overton]

All right, so we're totally way off crime. Always.

[Cindy Overton]

No, it is a crime for a 2 year old to watch Spongebob.

[Woody Overton]

Always Cindy's fault, because I blame her for everything. And that's it. And it is Tuesday and we are done. I'm Woody Overton.

[Cindy Overton]

I'm Cindy Overton.

[Woody Overton]

And we'll holler at y' all later. Not from Yellowstone. Peace.

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