True Crime Time For May 16, 2025 | Kim Kardashian Robbery, Diddy Allegations and Menendez Brothers Parole: Crime, Control, and Courtroom Drama

Summary

Real Life Real Crime: True Crime Time For May 16, 2025 | Kim Kardashian Robbery, Diddy Allegations and Menendez Brothers Parole: Crime, Control, and Courtroom Drama

Hosted by Woody Overton and Cindy Overton

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Podcast Achievement

In this episode, Woody Overton and Cindy Overton celebrate a significant milestone for their podcast, True Crime Time For. They proudly announce that their show has reached number 91 in the global rankings among daily news podcasts, outpacing major networks such as Fox, Al Jazeera, NBC, and CBS ([03:57]). This achievement underscores their dedicated approach to true crime storytelling and their growing cult following.

Kim Kardashian Robbery Case

The Robbery Incident

The episode opens with a discussion about the high-profile robbery of celebrity Kim Kardashian. Cindy Overton elaborates on the incident, highlighting that on May 13th, nine years after the event, Kardashian faced trial for her robbery ([09:35]).

Key Details:

• Date and Location: Nine years ago, Kim Kardashian was in France, actively sharing her experiences on social media platforms like Snapchat and Instagram.
• Perpetrators: Seventeen individuals, aged in their 60s and 70s, collectively dubbed the "Grandpa Robbers," orchestrated the robbery.
• Method: The thieves targeted Kardashian due to her ostentatious display of jewelry, making her a prime target for theft. Surveillance footage and DNA evidence were pivotal in identifying the culprits ([07:27]).

Court Proceedings and Testimony

During the trial, Kardashian testified about the traumatic experience, including moments where she was forced to hide in a closet out of fear of being assaulted ([08:24]). Woody Overton emphasizes the psychological impact the robbery had on her, noting her statement:

"I forgive you, but it doesn't take away the trauma" ([14:53]).

Cindy points out the irony and vulnerability in Kardashian's decision to return to the scene of the crime, wearing expensive jewelry again, which she believes perpetuates her vulnerability:

"She just made herself a big ass target, no matter whose jury it is" ([15:51]).

Sean 'Diddy' Combs' Sex Trafficking Allegations

Overview of the Case

The hosts delve into the ongoing trial of Sean "Diddy" Combs, who faces multiple charges including human trafficking, sexual exploitation, drug distribution, and rape ([17:36]). The prosecution accuses Combs of orchestrating a criminal enterprise that forced women, including his ex-girlfriend Cassandra Ventura, into non-consensual sex acts.

Cassandra Ventura's Testimony

Cassandra Ventura, a central figure in the prosecution's case, provided detailed testimony about her 11-year relationship with Combs, alleging coercion and abuse ([20:33]). Key points from her testimony include:

• Initial Relationship: Ventura met Combs in 2007, describing him as a mogul who could propel her career ([20:05]).

• Coercion into Sex Acts: She testified that Combs forced her into various sexual acts during parties known as "freak offs," which sometimes lasted several days ([26:48]).

• Fear and Control: Ventura expressed fear of violent repercussions if she refused Combs' demands, stating:

  "I was being punished" and "Sean controlled a lot of my life" ([14:21]).

• Specific Incidents: She recounted disturbing instances, including being forced to take part in sex acts while on her period and being subjected to urination as a form of humiliation ([34:44]).

Defense Strategy

Combs' legal team aims to discredit Ventura's allegations by attacking the credibility of witnesses such as Daniel Phillip, a male escort who claimed to witness Combs' abusive behavior ([25:18]). They argue that Phillip has personal biases and ulterior motives, suggesting his testimony is unreliable.

Notable Quote:

"Their attorneys try to destroy his credibility and said that he wants to separate from, mature from Combs because he was romantically interested in her." ([25:18]).

Public and Media Reaction

The case has garnered significant public attention, with divided opinions on Combs' actions and the validity of Ventura's claims. The hosts discuss the polarized reactions, noting that some applaud Ventura for her courage while others criticize her decisions leading up to the robbery ([14:53]).

Menendez Brothers Parole Hearing

Overview of Resentencing

Transitioning to another high-profile case, the hosts discuss the recent resentencing of the Menendez brothers. On May 13, Judge Michael Jessic sentenced Lyle and Erik Menendez to 50 years to life in prison, making them immediately eligible for parole ([45:58]).

Behavior and Rehabilitation in Prison

While incarcerated, both brothers have participated in various rehabilitation programs, though their behavior records remain mixed:

• Lyle Menendez has been involved in the Green Space project, aiming to create more humane prison environments ([47:09]).
• Erik Menendez participated in the life care and hospice program for elderly inmates but faced disciplinary actions for possessing contraband items like cell phones and trade items within the prison ([48:22]).

Notable Quote:

"They're engaged in rehabilitation efforts, but they have mixed disciplinary records." ([47:24]).

Parole Prospects

The parole hearing is scheduled for June 13, where their eligibility will be reviewed by the parole board. The brothers have expressed remorse for their actions, although the hosts express skepticism about the likelihood of leniency given the gravity of their crimes.

Future Episodes and Closing Remarks

Wrapping up the episode, Woody and Cindy Overton tease upcoming content, including a new series on human trafficking and continuation of their original true crime narratives ([51:28]). They express gratitude to their listeners for contributing to the podcast's success and encourage continued support.

Cindy Overton concludes:

"Join us as we uncover the truth behind real-life crime." ([51:30]).

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Notable Quotes with Timestamps

• Cindy Overton on Podcast Ranking:

  "We hit number 91 in the world on all daily news podcasts." ([03:57])

• Woody Overton on Reaching Milestone:

  "And that's what they do. And they have million dollar production teams and big skyscrapers and shit like that. And we did it." ([04:03])

• Cassandra Ventura's Apology in Testimony:

  "I forgive you, but it doesn't take away the trauma." ([14:53])

• Cindy on Menendez Brothers Resentencing:

  "They went out after they blew their daddy's head off and shot their mom." ([49:05])

• Cindy on Future Content:

  "We are going to be beginning the human trafficking series." ([51:15])

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Conclusion

This episode of Real Life Real Crime offers an in-depth exploration of several notable criminal cases, blending detailed analysis with the hosts' unique dynamic. From the high-profile robbery of Kim Kardashian to the alarming allegations against Sean 'Diddy' Combs, and the parole proceedings of the Menendez brothers, Woody and Cindy Overton provide listeners with comprehensive insights into the complexities of crime, control, and courtroom drama.

Listeners are left anticipating future episodes, especially the upcoming series on human trafficking, promising to delve deeper into these harrowing realities.

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[Cindy Overton]

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[Cindy Overton]

Foreign hello, everybody and welcome to this episode of True Crime. Time for Friday, May 16, 2025. And I'm Woody Overton.

[Kim Kardashian]

I'm Cindy Overton.

[Cindy Overton]

And this is a special drop, y' all.

[Kim Kardashian]

Sensational drop.

[Cindy Overton]

Sensational. Have we never had Friday words before? We try to make up stuff. Some life force and some great ones like Tater Tot Tuesday and different ones.

[Kim Kardashian]

Yeah.

[Cindy Overton]

What's Friday? Freaky Friday. Yeah, this is kind of freaky.

[Kim Kardashian]

Yeah.

[Cindy Overton]

So the. Anyway, special drop, but let's go ahead and let the cat out of the bag because you already know. I would think most of y' all would know that it's pretty amazing. The show is possibly, what, six months old that Cindy and I have been doing it together. And. And we hit number 91 in the world on all daily news podcasts. We're talking about Fox and Al Jazeera and NBC and CBS and everyone else. And two, the husband and wife. And then this is not in the true crime genre. It's, it's. I mean, obviously it is because that's what we talk about, but it's, it's news. Go look it up against all the biggest and the best in the world. And that's what they do. And they have million dollar production teams and big skyscrapers and shit like that. And we did it. This just crazy blessing, it proves to y' all that even though this is different than original real life, real crime, this is different than a hashtag justice for Haley or Courtney or Mary, whomever we started it. It's working. They like it. So you know what? We are bringing you this celebration episode and we're going to go out on a limb and really cover shit that in detail that we wouldn't normally cover, but it is crimes. And this sign of the times crimes. The.

[Kim Kardashian]

Maybe we should rhyme every time we line.

[Cindy Overton]

I'm over here throwing guns. People know about that. It's the side of the times crimes. And I want Cindy to start off with. And I think this story is almost comical. Comical except for the fact there was a robbery involved. And this was going to be brief and then we'll get into the big long ones. But the. This story, when I heard about it, what happened was a robbery. And I heard about it and I thought, this person is living up to my expectations of her. She's a dumb ass. But it doesn't make her that her being a victim any less problem or a crime. I hate anybody that gets robbed. I'd rather deal with a murderer than a thief. You always hear me say that. But. So you tell them what happened in the story. This person got robbed. And you tell the story. And then you tell why you're telling the story. Well, then I'm gonna say she's dumbass again.

[Kim Kardashian]

She's not a dumb ass.

[Cindy Overton]

Well, evidently.

[Woody Overton]

I'm not saying she's not rich. Hey, there's plenty of people who are rich af who are.

[Kim Kardashian]

She made it herself.

[Cindy Overton]

Good. Good for her. Hey, I think when it comes to the fact of being robbed, she's an idiot. Well, go ahead.

[Kim Kardashian]

Obviously, y' all, he's talking about Kim Kardashian. Her trial started the trial of her being robbed. So on May 13th. So I'm gonna go back. So nine years ago, she was in France and she was Snapchatting and instagramming her way through France and documenting her journey. And 17 people dubbed the grandpa robbers. That's what they've been dubbed as because they were all in their 60s and 70s decide to rob her. And so based on DNA evidence, surveillance footage, they found her out. Yeah.

[Cindy Overton]

Why did they decide to rob her?

[Kim Kardashian]

Well, because she was dolled up in all of her jewels and they knew that she was traveling heavy. I mean, she was big ball.

[Cindy Overton]

She is big balling. And exactly how she should live her life. That's the way she wants to live it. But she's wearing all this. And what did I tell you? When we like go to New Orleans to the French court or whatever, I'm going to let you wear certain bags and. And I don't wear jury and whatever. You're setting yourself up to be a mark. And now you're in a whole nother country, right? You're wearing a million dollars worth of bling Bling. Right. Just whoa, look at me motherfuckers. I got all my on you are getting you or she.

[Woody Overton]

They had photograph grass of her on social media showing off her bling.

[Kim Kardashian]

Okay.

[Cindy Overton]

That is a target number one.

[Woody Overton]

Come rob my ass and take my shit.

[Kim Kardashian]

Okay.

[Cindy Overton]

And so now tell them what happened.

[Kim Kardashian]

And they did. And she got scared out of her mind that night. So I mean I'm sure everybody knows what happened. Do you want me to go into that?

[Cindy Overton]

Yeah. What you tell the story.

[Kim Kardashian]

Well, I mean I don't have a lot of the story. I have an update on the story, but there was obviously traumatic events. She was hiding in a closet. She was afraid that she was going to get raped and, and everything else that could happen that was gunpoint.

[Cindy Overton]

Because they didn't just pick her out because she's a Kardashian, they picked her out specifically. And it comes out that they target her because she was on social media flaunting her bling. They didn't go there rape her. A lot of people, if they may, you know, she's all this famous sexual person and videos and all that stuff. No, they went there to rob her because she made herself a super duper target by sticking the diamonds in the camera.

[Kim Kardashian]

Okay.

[Cindy Overton]

And she's there for X amount of time. They find out where she is. They, they bust in and they get her. Shit.

[Kim Kardashian]

They do. And hours and hours and hours of them. They have her. Yes.

[Cindy Overton]

Right. So now fast forward nine years later, they finally get their day in court. Tell us about what happened.

[Kim Kardashian]

So that was May 13th. She testified at the trial. She had to look her accused in the face and she is dressed. And I know you're gonna get to this, but she's dressed. And they describe it as a black blazer and a skirt. And it's not just what you would think of a typical like black blazer and a skirt. It's got fans. It's, you know.

[Cindy Overton]

Yeah, it's fans. Care how fast fancy she dresses up in her clothing?

[Kim Kardashian]

Well, her clothing is probably a couple thousand dollars.

[Cindy Overton]

Okay.

[Kim Kardashian]

More than that.

[Cindy Overton]

It's not worth millions and millions and millions of dollars she got robbed for originally. Go ahead.

[Kim Kardashian]

So. But she also had on a 3 million dollar.

[Cindy Overton]

Here we go.

[Kim Kardashian]

Diamond necklace. Plus she had on some earrings.

[Cindy Overton]

But her she returns to the scene of the crime, lower the country of the crime. And she probably has on more bling that she got robbed for which honestly props for her for having the balls to do that and because if, but if I was a criminal, you'd rob her again. I'm telling you, I'd be setting up. She would be get her ass be getting robbed again tonight. That's just the way it is. Not by the same people because it already worked once and you are showing up and you got on more shit on purpose. And you know, I'm pretty sure if I rob you for $4 million worth of jury and it takes me 30 minutes, I just had a great lifetime success. Now I'm retired, on the beach somewhere.

[Kim Kardashian]

In the Bahamas or you're in jail.

[Cindy Overton]

That's correct. But I wouldn't get caught. She had props for her. I bet she had armed security out there.

[Kim Kardashian]

So if you got. If you got robbed, let's just pretend that someone been robbed before. Okay, so. Well, I know you have, but. Okay, so someone gets maybe some firearms from you.

[Cindy Overton]

That's happened to me before.

[Kim Kardashian]

I know, I know. I'm trying to. I'm trying to. What, what would you do? You wouldn't show up gunless to the next time you see that person. You'd probably go in with 50 guns hanging off. Like you would say, you're not gonna f with me mfer this. I am resilient and I am strong and you're not going to get to me. I'm gonna do.

[Cindy Overton]

And. And I just gave her props for that. But the whatever way they got me, like when they got the guns out of my vehicles when I was out of town that time, guess what I started doing? Locking the doors on my vehicles.

[Kim Kardashian]

Yeah.

[Cindy Overton]

And I'm not going to allow them to access to do the same thing. I started taking the guns out of the vehicle, not going to allow them to access to do the same thing. I am telling you, there is some narcissistic asshole out there who's, who's seeing the same report seeing the jury she's got on. They're thinking about. They're scoping it out, figuring all I got to do is run by and snatch that three million dollar necklace offer.

[Kim Kardashian]

I know, I know, but you were talking about not letting me wear certain things in New Orleans or when we travel at all. And I don't travel or wear jewelry out. But when usually at all. Because you know our wedding rings are on our wrists and I don't need that. But I also have some like my alternatives that women are doing a lot these days. You don't wear your real stuff out. And I wouldn't wear my real. If you see me with stuff out in public, I promise you it's not real stuff.

[Cindy Overton]

All we're trying to do is public service announcement 1492. Be aware, not afraid. Also, if you, you know, Lock keeps an honest man. Honest. If you, you know, the media is going to focus on you showing up with $4 million worth of jury on and because you got robbed for jury before.

[Kim Kardashian]

Yeah.

[Cindy Overton]

I do not think. I'm not saying that she shouldn't have done it. I just think it, like you said, maybe wear a fake.

[Kim Kardashian]

Yeah.

[Cindy Overton]

Because I'm pretty sure I could ride by you on a motorcycle and rip your necklace off and, and you're getting traumatized again.

[Kim Kardashian]

Yeah.

[Cindy Overton]

Be smart, y' all. It doesn't matter if this, if it's Kim Kardashian getting robbed or somebody's breaking into your home or whatever. Change the pattern. Those people are out there. Hey, guess what? There are people out there that want your shit.

[Kim Kardashian]

Yeah.

[Cindy Overton]

Whether it's sexually, they want to rape you or they want to murder you. They want to rob you. Evil exists. There are people that wake up every morning like we do and have our coffee, discuss our day that's coming up. There are people who wake up every morning and discuss the crimes they're going to give commit that day. You know why? And I'm not talking about just dope heads. I'm talking about people that are professionals. They, they. That is their chosen lifestyle.

[Kim Kardashian]

Yeah.

[Cindy Overton]

And it happens, I promise you. And they are going to get away with it nine times out of 10. So any update on what happened in the trial?

[Kim Kardashian]

So basically she test testified and she recounted the traumatic events of the. Of that whole night and she expressed her fears and the psychological impact. But she also addressed a letter of apology the. From the ringleader. But she said, you know, I forgive you, but it doesn't take away the trauma, you know, that I was left with.

[Cindy Overton]

Sure. Absolutely.

[Kim Kardashian]

So of course the public reaction is very similar to yours and mine. Some people are judging her for wearing the expensive jewelry again and some people are applauding her for, you know, doing it.

[Cindy Overton]

I'm doing both.

[Kim Kardashian]

Right, right. That's what I'm saying. Yours am. I like. We're both like just mixed, you know, how do you. But I, I mean, I, I'm not a fr. I love the Kardashians. I watch every one of their shows. And so I have seen on the show how much security has changed within their homes and how much more there is now and what she usually wears in public now. And she doesn't post in real time anymore. She might post.

[Cindy Overton]

Right. I'm just saying she learned that's the Main thing, you. Hey, do it. Wear it if you want to. You want to post it an hour after your shit's in the safe.

[Kim Kardashian]

But the other thing is, is people don't realize that's not Kim Kardashian's jewelry. A jewel.

[Cindy Overton]

Right? The music awards and all the different. All that shit. We don't watch. And. But yeah, but it's still, you know, you set yourself up to be a victim of crime. I think she's got balls for wearing it and representing herself in the courtroom. I also think she just made herself a big ass target, no matter whose jury it is.

[Kim Kardashian]

Yeah, well, they probably took it off of her immediately and put it in a safe connected to some guy's wrist. You know, like with all of her security, like, she probably didn't walk back outside with that on. I don't know.

[Cindy Overton]

Yes, she did. Okay, so. But it doesn't matter. All right, good one, good one, good one. You done?

[Kim Kardashian]

Sure.

[Cindy Overton]

All right, so look, we don't really like the. These famous people stuff, but, you know, being that we're now number 91 in the world out of seven and a half million podcasts for news or this, this daily show news, not just true crime. All the rest of those shows are news shows, right? Some of them have very different angles. But I've got to tell y' all about the P. Diddy trial and what's going on. It is so I'm not gonna say scores. It's so out there. And everything is about Diddy or P. Diddy or. Or Pop. Pop is what he made the girl call him. Oh, yeah. I'm gonna get in. I'm gonna get in there in a second. So see, I'm going to try to condense about 25 different things stories into one.

[Kim Kardashian]

Okay.

[Cindy Overton]

All right, so you don't want to.

[Kim Kardashian]

Do like a 38 part series.

[Cindy Overton]

No.

[Kim Kardashian]

Okay.

[Cindy Overton]

The. Is that how long has been. Yeah, well, guess what? It's about the end, so. All right, so we know about P. Diddy. He's all up in the music business and shit. Y' all know who he is, right? I don't have to waste time on that. And then also, you know, he's been sitting in jail on all kinds of charges. Human trafficking, sexual exploitation, drugs, rape, all this different. Not bullshit that he didn't do it, because I feel quite certain that he did. But everybody's so worried. This case has such high profile stuff because of the people that are famous or relatively famous to participate in some of these crimes. Right. And so everybody's Freaking out and worried about it. And whatever. What I'm going to do now is kind of catch you up to where we're at on. So the case starts in the beginning and you know, Sean Diddy Combs on trial and charges sex trafficking to gage in prostitution, transportation to engage in prostitution. And so the open arguments began on Monday, May 12th in Manhattan. And you know, of course, the feds are saying that Combs is the mastermind behind a criminal enterprise of force, women, including this ex girlfriend of foreign sex acts that he filmed. All right, so Cassandra Cassie Ventura, you ever heard of her? All right, well, evidently back in the day when he first met Cassie is what they call her, the he. He being Sean Diddy Combs gave her a kiss for the first time.

[Kim Kardashian]

Oh, her first kiss?

[Cindy Overton]

No, no, no, no.

[Kim Kardashian]

Okay.

[Cindy Overton]

But he kissed her in August of 2007 on her 21st birthday in Las Vegas after a VMA event. You know what happened when he kissed her? She says she cried and. But not in a good way. There's 17 years age difference between material. And she said, I was really confused at the time. And, you know, new artists. So he was promoting, right. And she said I was pretty naive. And then Diddy says, hey, baby, did you want that kiss? And the. Cassie testified, she said, no, not on my birthday. Right. Whatever that means. But after her birthday in Vegas, they began to hang out in New York.

[Woody Overton]

And she had visited him at the.

[Cindy Overton]

Trump Hotel on Columbus Circle. And she said, look, you know what? I was basically enthralled with the dude. He's a mogul and a big producer. He's going to help my career and everything else. And she said, you know what? It's pretty fun and entertaining and exciting. And again, my career was in his hands. Right. So she's known as or became famous for me and you.

[Kim Kardashian]

Okay.

[Cindy Overton]

You ever heard of it?

[Kim Kardashian]

No.

[Cindy Overton]

All right, me either. So the she now she's married to this dude, Alex. Fine. She's eight months pregnant with her child. This is important because she is on the stand right. This week. Test. Fine. She's eight months pregnant, right. And it comes into play in a few minutes. So she said that Diddy, who was her boyfriend of 11 years, forced her to form sex acts and abused her physically and emotionally. Now, the. I'm not going to read verbatim, but I'll tell you one. In the beginning, he gave her ecstasy, and then he wanted to do whatever he. She testified this week on the stand that he gave her oral sex. The first oral sex she's ever had in her entire life. And it kind of freaked her out. Right. At the Trip Trump Hotel. And then she's continuing to testify and we're going to get into the juice of it, but basically like we know what the prosecution said their case is, but the defense is like our, our defense is she was with him for 11 years and everything was consensual until in the end she made rape allegations. Oh no. What happened was he got called on camera hitting her in a hotel.

[Kim Kardashian]

Yes, okay, I remember that.

[Cindy Overton]

He got caught hidden on the camera in a hotel. And then she filed and she got money. Okay, and whatever. But that would throw a wrench in your criminal game plan, right? Well, when they started digging, they found a hell of a lot more, including. I mean, let me get back for just a second. Let's talk about the whole oral sex thing. Right? As she was 21 years old and she said Sean taught me how. He gave me oral sex. I did not reciprocate. I just went home and he, she said, I heard about it from him and he made me feel crazy for not reciprocating. But I didn't understand and I was in a relationship with someone else. So she said I was so young, I didn't have that vocabulary, was just trying to understand it. I was sexually inexperienced and leaving him was always confusing. I felt special. And not a lot of people got time with him like that. Right. So I'm pretty sure that they're going to call bullshit on that one. What, 20, what, 21 year old in the history of the world, especially nowadays with everything doesn't know what oral sex is.

[Woody Overton]

I'm not saying she ever had it.

[Cindy Overton]

Before, but don't tell me a man performing cunnings on you, you don't know what that's even called. And she's trying, he's tries to get you to do the same to him. And now you testifying all these years later. I didn't know it was called. Well, whatever that, that's. They're going to get hammered on that in the, in the end. Now we're going to get to the second day of trial and Cassie still testifying, eight months pregnant, right? And she tells the jury about the free calls, how they get started. And she was asked by Sean Diddy Combs, you know, to sex parties and they had become known as freak offs. Now she's 38 years old. She's testifying again on Tuesday and she testified that she had just turned 22 when combs first asked her to engage in free calls. And she was confused and nervous. Okay, I can get that. She said, I just remember my stomach falling to my butt when what she said when she was asked about participating, she said, but I loved him so much. Right. She said she felt she couldn't refuse Diddy because she didn't know what no could be or what no could turn into. Like she's fear of violence. And I don't doubt that probably. And she alleges that the repercussions for disobeying Diddy were sometimes violent. And he did prove that later on. She said, Sean controlled a lot of my life. And so whether it was a career, the way she dressed everything, she says, Sean is a really polarizing person. He was charming and it's hard to really be able to determine what you need when he's telling you what he wants. So I just didn't know. I didn't know what happened. So. And she also, obviously he videotaped all this as she feared the videos from the freak offs would get onto the Internet. So the defense starts to ask questions about a guy named Daniel Phillip who is a male escort who had told the jury on Monday that he witnessed Combs beat Ventura and believe she was in danger. So they're trying to discredit him. Right. And Combs defense team, you know, try to destroy his credibility and said that he wants to separate from, mature from Combs because he was romantically interested in her. They got to say something. Right?

[Kim Kardashian]

Right.

[Cindy Overton]

And we all know this bullshit. And then basically they talk about the security guard at hotel, try to pay him to be quiet and not report the, the beatings that he saw and all that. Right. Continuing with Cassie's testimony, she said, I was drinking wine and then started to take drugs. A Blue Dolphin ecstasy pill.

[Kim Kardashian]

What's that? I mean, I know what ecstasy is, but what's Blue Dolphin?

[Cindy Overton]

Just the name. Like when they did different pressers, they put it could be, you know, stars or Flintstones or whatever.

[Kim Kardashian]

It's just the shape.

[Cindy Overton]

No, no, no. It's just the name. They're all around. It's pills, but it's a. It's like their logo.

[Kim Kardashian]

Okay.

[Cindy Overton]

The brand marketing. And yes, it's illegal and they don't want the real name to come out. But every type of ecstasy made by different producers has some type of pink hearts, double dongs, chocolate wafers. They used to call them whatever, but.

[Kim Kardashian]

They'Re all just blue diamond doesn't have a different ingredient. Cards then.

[Cindy Overton]

Okay, that is correct. Okay, so now let's get to the freak offs. Again. And she said the freak offs, which is performance, involved Sean P. Diddy watching her with another person and he would direct them what to do sexually. Okay. She said, and this one, she's testifying this court, y' all, that it became her job to set the freak offs up.

[Kim Kardashian]

Oh, gosh.

[Cindy Overton]

Right. And she said the first time she was asked to participate, she said, I knew it was something he wanted me to do. I just remember my stomach following my butt. And I had just turned 22 and didn't have a concept the freak offs would be a turn on. Said I was confused and nervous, but I loved it so much. Right. Just like I told you. So basically, I mean, she testified about 17 years together. Yes. She had sex with Cones also. Not just the free cause as. As she got older and. But she wasn't sober. I told you, Cassie's eight months plus pregnant. And what I didn't tell you, I forgot to tell you, is when she came into the courtroom the first time, this first time she's seen Sean Diddy Combs since 2018, what does she do? Well, she was a key witness for prosecution. And when she entered the courtroom, P. Diddy turned to look at her, but she didn't look back at him. She kept her gay straight and went ahead and didn't even acknowledge him, which, you know, has to piss a motherfucker like that off. Right.

[Kim Kardashian]

So I can't believe he turned to look at her or probably just try to.

[Cindy Overton]

Oh, that's the last stab thing. And I've seen that on. On cases, big cases we have where people have control over people for so long.

[Kim Kardashian]

Yeah.

[Cindy Overton]

And you're like, why not turn and stare out of the. Might just run off the stand and lose a lot of. A lot of the stuff. So again, the, you know, Cones we already talked about what it actually was CNN that released a video Cones beating her ass. And that's after that is when she filed the. That he raped and assaulted her. But it was settled the following day. Means she got a check the following day and she took away the criminal charges. That is so bad from the prosecution standpoint. Now we're back to the free calls. Right. And she said on one of the free calls that did, he told her to get into an inflatable pool which was filled with baby oil. All right. Said there was over a hundred bottles of baby oil they poured into. Into the pool. And she was made to participate in several free calls with male escorts over their 11 years together. So back to the pool. She said, you know what? I Didn't want to I want to get in the pool. She was fully clothed at the time but she again common theme for her. She feared what did he would do if she didn't get in the pool. She said something that shown want to happen. That's what was going to happen. In the indictment against Cones, prosecutors say that the feds found 1,000 bottles of baby oil after Raiden did his homes and but of course did his attorney disputes that number the what does it matter? Right. Right. Well I can't you know kind of backs up if you go get in a that if you're made these sex acts in the pool and all that. I'm gonna get more detailed in in just a second. But you're right what does it matter.

[Kim Kardashian]

The number is what I'm saying.

[Cindy Overton]

So guess what the last name is of. Of one of his attorneys. Garagos.

[Kim Kardashian]

Oh wow. But it's not.

[Cindy Overton]

It's not. It's not Mark. It's the Tinny Garagos and the y' all. I'm referring to the Scorch series. I've done 30 something episodes on Mark Garagos is still a very famous. Actually the story you're going to talk about next we have time is he's their attorney. Right. But anyway of course here they come. Right. They're like prior September 2024, Cassie had filed a civil suit against Comb Combs in November claiming that he raped and assaulted but she took the money and ran and then began a whole bunch of civil suits etc. So again she's testifying and you know they're digging into the relationship and this a little bit freaky. Right. On Tuesday again the second day of the trial, Cassie tells the jury that Combs had asked as what she called her grandfather. And according to her she called him Pop Pop which was what we called your daddy, God rest his soul. And oh my God. She said she was 17 years younger than Diddy and she said she called him Pop Pop because he wanted to and began calling him that as well. She said I did it but now I think it was disrespectful and that he abused her and forced her in the sexual counters against her will, including urinating in her mouth and making her engage in the freak offs which are the sex parties that can last for days. On now the other side we always got people that love the person that's on trial. Right. So Combs family members have been present for both days of the trial to express the support for him. But on the first day of trial, his three daughters walked out of the courtroom during the testimony of a male escort who we told you about earlier, who provided graphic details of Combs sexual encounters, including the allegations that he abused Ventura. And so, you know, again, back to the urination. And it's gonna freak a lot of people, obviously. She said, sometimes Sean would urinate on me. Sometimes he'd make the male escorts urinate on me. And she said she didn't want to be urinated on, but that she was never asked. And she called it the experience humiliating. She testified she was sometimes choked because there was too much urine in my mouth. Said I don't want anyone to urinate on me. Sean would urinate my mouth. Not super often, but often enough. In her testimony, she talks about another time that Diddy was close to Suge Knight. Not, I mean, I don't mean close like personal wise, but they were like in the same vicinity. And he gave her a gun. She was high on whatever. The after Diddy got alert about want to scary car guards. D. Rock said that night was at a nearby diner and said they quickly packed up and drove down there. Said I was crying, I was screaming. Don't do anything stupid. I was just really nervous to them. I didn't know what it meant, what they were going to do. And she testified they all left in an SUV and she was handed a gun to put in her purse. And she said she had the gun for at least an hour while high on mushrooms.

[Kim Kardashian]

Oh my.

[Cindy Overton]

Pretty sure that's not a combination. And she. You want. She said she was terrified the gun would go off. She said I had no idea why I had it in the first place. And always felt like it was a scare tactic. Right. So she said that Combs would punish her by having his 24 hour security takeaway access to her laptop or her phone controlling. Right. They're establishing a pattern. She said that being without her electronics for however long, she said I was being punished for. And she said. Asked if he had taken anything else from her, she said, yeah, my self confidence. Yeah, I guess pissed in the mouth will get that for you, right? The she said that he tightly controlled her appearance and he put her on an exercise regimen. This ought to really piss you ladies off out there.

[Woody Overton]

Or an exercise regimen just to get ready for the freak offs.

[Cindy Overton]

Like she's going to the super bowl. Right. We're bringing in swinging dicks, paying for them and. And you got to get it right.

[Woody Overton]

She said her look out.

[Cindy Overton]

Her look during the freak offs was especially important to Him. And some days he would want me to be really sexy, she said, and be his woman. Other days.

[Kim Kardashian]

Yeah.

[Cindy Overton]

So he went back and forth to Sharon and. And then making love to her, I guess. I don't know. She said that the freak off again lasts several days. The longest one was four days or even more, but it had some breaks in between. And she said I was recovering from drugs and dehydration, just trying to stay awake all the time. She said the freak offs became a job, which I get there. I guess so And. But that's what evidently P. Did he like he was going to get it right, so. So back to the videotape. She called him blackout materials. She said he had many resources to do that. This is her quotations. And he had the ability naturally, he's this famous dude, he. To release those recordings. Of course, when the defense attorneys try to paint it at the sex acts as consensual, stating hey, you know, didn't get paid. Was. Was Ventura the one who paid you? When I was talking to the male escort also, and he said yes, they said she wasn't drunk or high. And the male escort said, no, she wasn't.

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[Woody Overton]

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[Cindy Overton]

Taxes and fees are extra. Cement Mobile for details so this might walk they said. Is it fair? They asked him this Phillips the the male escort, is it? Is it fair to say she was complete control of everything she did? And Phillips says I cannot say that right so because everyone wants to know Combs showed up for court. He was wearing a light colored crewneck sweater and he gave his attorney some hugs and he turned to greet members of his family and all that bullshit. It's been handled by U.S. district Judge Aaron Submarine and he says at the beginning of trial that he was likely to grant media access to the graphic videos that were set to be shown from the free calls.

[Kim Kardashian]

Wow.

[Cindy Overton]

Yeah, right. So Combs attorney Mark. And this. Naturally, he's got more than one, this Angelio guy. He requested that Cassie be seated in the witness box before the jury is seated because her appearance could possibly influence the jurors perception of a key prosecution witness. Said. He said, hey, pregnancy is beautiful and wonderful. That's what they told the lawyer. Told the judge. Said it's also a source of potential sympathy. I am prohibitive. Attorneys are crazy.

[Kim Kardashian]

Like his gray hair isn't a potential man. Can't be this bad guy that. Oh, that, that.

[Cindy Overton]

I knew that. I knew that was gonna get you.

[Kim Kardashian]

That's. I am not a feminist in any way, shape or form. But to do that, that's just manipulation.

[Cindy Overton]

Well, wait till I tell you the next one. So she still. Cassandra Cast Venture again is her name. And she testified she told the jurors everything that I told you, but this I have not told you yet. She told the jurors that the sex trafficking trial that he forced her to have sex while she had her period on May 13. She said he forced her to take part in the sex encounters called the freak offs. And she said, I was expected to have freak offs on my period. Sean would expect it. I don't think anyone wants to do that. I'm pretty sure she's correct. At least my viewpoint. So, y' all, I'm gonna go ahead and start winding it down just for the sake of time. But she got done testifying about the free calls. If it's not an insult to injury, basically when everybody got done nothing and doing all the dope up to four days sometime, etc. She said. And she testified that she was left behind to clean up the mess. Oh my gosh, 150 bottles of baby oil. What the are you gonna do with that? How are you gonna get that to the bathtub to dump it down the drain?

[Kim Kardashian]

I don't think you did.

[Cindy Overton]

And everything else been going on. You, you getting you drinking pee, you've been high on X. You're doing all this stuff. You're getting hammered by male escorts and, and, and doing whatever. But hey, hey, baby, now we'll be done with the freak off once you, you, you're gonna stay here and clean all this up. And then when you get rested, get on treadmill because we got another free call coming. You need to be in shape.

[Kim Kardashian]

Yeah.

[Cindy Overton]

Anyway, so it's, it's, it's. It Is. It's a really sad story. And y' all know that we are going to be beginning the human trafficking series, and it's going. The first part of it is going to. Absolutely. We're going to present a. A real live human tracking victim. So, y' all, look, it's Friday. You know, the trial has gone on, and everything in the world's coming out. Like, you know, she testified that Diddy's like Ike Turner, that he used to be Tina and everything else, and it was her job to keep the cops out. All so much shit. The. You know, it's a very compelling story. I see where the defense is going to have a field day with some of this to bring reasonable doubt, but they're not done yet. The feds aren't done.

[Kim Kardashian]

How do you reasonable doubt this?

[Cindy Overton]

She dated him for 11 years. They're going to say, oh, you couldn't be influenced. The. The. All they have to do. Look, this is not probable cause where it's 50 plus 1. Reasonable doubt is not beyond all. All doubt, but reasonable doubt. And just looking at her and, you know, listening to the male escort say this and that and what have you, and they're gonna. They're gonna hammer her ass. They're gonna say, oh, how much did you profit? And not a diet. And over 11 years, why didn't you ever do whatever? Just typical courtroom theatrics. But it's not over.

[Kim Kardashian]

She's not the star witness, is she?

[Cindy Overton]

She is. She is the star witness as far, not for all the crimes, but she's the number one witness they bring in because they won't come in guns blazing. Yeah, they already know, believe me. Prosecution or experts, they know they got. They got holes in Cassie. Right. But they also have stuff coming up down the line that's going to plug those holes. And in the end, the jury's gonna be so pissed off, they gonna send Diddy down the river or up the river without a paddle.

[Kim Kardashian]

Yeah.

[Cindy Overton]

So I don't know the y' all we were going to do. I was gonna have Cindy do an update on the Menendez brothers. Well, let's just talk about it for two seconds. Give them run down. And y' all know how this case really pisses me off. I mean, this Sean Diddy human trafficking is horrible. I get it. Being able to prove it. You know, he's this multimillionaire and all that. Well, these dudes, when they were kids, obviously brutally blew their parents apart. And all these years later, they got Mark Garrigos again, same as Scott Peterson has. And as everyone knows, because we talked about it before, they were up to see if they could be resentenced again. Right. So what happened?

[Kim Kardashian]

Menendez trial. On May 13, Judge Michael Jessic resentenced the brothers.

[Cindy Overton]

It's a hearing, not a trial. Right.

[Kim Kardashian]

I'm sorry.

[Cindy Overton]

It's okay.

[Kim Kardashian]

Yeah. Well, it's a re sentencing, I guess. Hearing, hearing. And he resentenced the brothers to 50 years to life, making them immediately eligible for parole.

[Cindy Overton]

So stupid.

[Kim Kardashian]

And of course, during the resentencing hearing, both brothers expressed remorse. Lyle stated, I take full responsibility for my actions.

[Cindy Overton]

I'm sure you take the do that now, but not bringing your mom and daddy back.

[Kim Kardashian]

Eric echoed similar sentiments. But what interested me about this is like, obviously now the parole process starts. And so they're scheduled for their parole hearing on June 13th. And if granted parole, the decision would still require the governor to veto the parole board's recommendation if need be. But what I thought was interesting is that the boys haven't really been that great while they've been inside. Inside.

[Cindy Overton]

Tell about it. So the one loss is toupee.

[Kim Kardashian]

So while they have been in prison, they have been engaged in quote, unquote, rehabilitation efforts. Lyle has worked on the Green Space project, aiming to create humane prison environments.

[Cindy Overton]

Isn't that nice? Hey, Lyle. Prisons are bad for a reason.

[Kim Kardashian]

Eric has been involved in the life care and hospice program for elderly inmates. Okay, so kudos to them. That's great. So while both brothers have been engaged in the rehabilitation programs, they have mixed disciplinary records. Eric was found with contraband items, and Lyall has been noted for exhibiting entitlement and narcissism. But what were the contraband items?

[Cindy Overton]

That's not a prison rule.

[Kim Kardashian]

I know, but, but I'm sure a parole officer, a parole like board person.

[Cindy Overton]

Is going to say, contraband is anything, y' all. It doesn't have to be dope, but it could be anything that is not approved in the prison systems list, everything from a type of toothpaste to whatever.

[Kim Kardashian]

Eric had a cell phone.

[Cindy Overton]

Yep.

[Kim Kardashian]

Tobacco.

[Unknown]

Okay.

[Kim Kardashian]

He was involved in an incident in 1998 where he traded television sets with another inmate, which led to the discovery of a video game machine and a 35 millimeter camera. Why? Why do you need a camera up in there? Free calls asked did he Both considered obviously contraband. And they were hidden in the other inmate cell. And the incident resulted in admin sag for Eric and two fellow y' all.

[Cindy Overton]

You get. You get arrested inside of prison, they don't take you out to street jail, they put you in the hole.

[Kim Kardashian]

So these infractions have to the moderate risk assessment in the parole evaluation.

[Cindy Overton]

Yeah, well, you know what? They're gonna let them out. Ask Christina, Constance and these other people who've committed such horrible crimes. But man, you know, they went out after they blew their daddy's head off and shot their mom. They went to the car and got more shotgun shells, come back in and finish their mom. Yeah, and then all the money and living the high life and all that bullshit. Yeah, you saw remorse reactions. What you going to do? Stand prison in front of the judge where you're trying to get out and say, oh no, I meant to do it, motherfucker, I'm a bad dude and work you, whichever one idiots it is that is doing hospice, obviously. My dad just died on hospice. I think that's commendable. But you know what? Ain't got nothing else to do. And in hospice, he's been sitting in an air conditioner infirmary and everything else. And. And you know.

[Kim Kardashian]

Exactly.

[Cindy Overton]

I mean, he's not out in the field pushing the line.

[Kim Kardashian]

Exactly.

[Cindy Overton]

So. But whatever.

[Kim Kardashian]

And he could have done hospice for his own daddy.

[Cindy Overton]

Yeah, that's what I was gonna say. There's two people he's never gonna get to do hospice for, and that's his own mom and his own daddy. Yes, he did hospice, but it's just not spelled H O S P I C E. Right, it's spelled H O M I C I D. Well, yes, he murdered him.

[Woody Overton]

So with that being said, thank you all for please keep liking and sharing.

[Cindy Overton]

Because you made us famous. You know what I mean?

[Woody Overton]

And it's awesome.

[Cindy Overton]

Who knew? We knew the numbers were growing. We could see it every day. And when you. But it's so different than what we started. And yes, original real life for crimes coming back on Saturdays. Right? And yes, we're going to work on human trafficking cases. And yes, I'm going to take some hashtag Justiceforce in the future. But there's enough of you out there that love this show. What my do with my wife, what we do together in that it made it great. Right? I'm so proud.

[Kim Kardashian]

It's like I have crime great again.

[Cindy Overton]

I never had it. I never had a baby. But I'm proud of this six month baby. All right. All right, y' all, I'm Woody Overton.

[Kim Kardashian]

I'm Cindy Overton.

[Cindy Overton]

You host a true crime. Time for Friday, May 16th. We will holler at you later. Peace.

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