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Cindy Overton
I'm Cindy Overton, coming to bring us some news. Yes.
Woody Overton
Right.
Cindy Overton
Yes.
Woody Overton
Yes. We got a plethora of different stories, right?
Cindy Overton
Yes.
Woody Overton
Are you surprised because I said plethora? I'm sure I've used that word before.
Cindy Overton
You have definitely used that word before.
Woody Overton
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Cindy Overton
Yes.
Woody Overton
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Cindy Overton
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Woody Overton
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Woody Overton
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Cindy Overton
I'm going to start us off in Madison, I mean Masonville, New York. But I'm going to take us back to September of 2024. Okay, so it's not way back.
Woody Overton
No. What, not even a year?
Cindy Overton
Not even a year. But a horrible murder occurred on September 4th. So there was a couple. The man is Drew Garnier and his wife Samantha. And they had two young girls and Samantha was pregnant and Drew was not happy with the sex of the baby. Okay, okay.
Woody Overton
So they had a gender reveal and he didn't like it I guess so.
Cindy Overton
He just wasn't happy with the gender. I don't know about the reveal part, but.
Woody Overton
Can'T find out the gender unless it's revealed.
Cindy Overton
Well, I was thinking of now social media terms of gender reveals where they have like the, I don't know about all of the confetti flying in there. You put cut a piece of cake and it's blue or pink and all that. So that when you said reveal my brain.
Woody Overton
Happy with the baby.
Cindy Overton
He is definitely not happy with the sex of the child.
Woody Overton
What did he do?
Cindy Overton
On the night of September 4th, Drew stabbed Samantha Nice multiple times which fatally wounded her and their unborn daughter. He then turned the knife on their two daughters, nine year old Adelina and six year old Izzy and inflicted severe injuries on both of them. First responders arrived at the scene because Drew called 911 and said I just killed my family.
Woody Overton
Okay.
Cindy Overton
Responders arrived at the scene. Samantha was then airlifted to Wilson Medical center but was pronounced dead shortly after arrival and so was her unborn baby. The two girls were transported to local hospitals. They survived the attack and they had critical injuries but they survived, which is amazing.
Woody Overton
Right.
Cindy Overton
But in the aftermath, Drew was arrested and initially charged with second degree murder and two counts of second degree attempted murder. Drew also had stab wounds and self inflicted stab wounds on him. So that's another piece. But however, In March of 2025 he entered a plea deal. He admitted guilt to first degree manslaughter in two counts of first degree assault. And disagreement. Was part of an effort obviously to spare which I always want to plea deal.
Woody Overton
Right.
Cindy Overton
I want to, I want them to plead guilty because I don't want the children to have to get up and testify and go relive that. So that's what they cite as his reasoning for that. At the sentencing on May 15, Samantha Gregory, Samantha's father, Gregory delivered a powerful impact statement, victim impact statement. He revealed that Drew's motive was Rooted in his disappointment over the unborn child's gender. He wanted a boy. And he also shared that he had adopted his granddaughters, stating, I am their father now. I will protect them. And then Judge John Hubbard sentenced Drew Garn Garner to 30 years in prison, followed by 15 years of supervised release. Additionally, a no contact order was issued prohibiting him from any communication with his daughter until the year 2056. And I don't think that's long enough either. The judge.
Woody Overton
Yep.
Cindy Overton
The judge emphasized the gravity of his Garnier's actions, saying, you took lives and injured your children. They have a right to expect protection from you.
Woody Overton
That's all kinds of fucked up.
Cindy Overton
Yeah.
Woody Overton
And 30 years for doing what he did. I guess the kids didn't have testify. Hopefully the dude never gets a shot.
Cindy Overton
Yeah. The district attorney says, you know, we were able to secure this conviction without forcing, like we said, two young children to testify about what they witnessed and endured.
Woody Overton
And hopefully they're getting all the help and everything they need.
Cindy Overton
Right, Right.
Woody Overton
All right, get the elephant in the room out of the way. And there are so many Diddy stories that I'm just going to read you the headlines again on. On some of them.
Cindy Overton
Okay.
Woody Overton
Because, you know, full blown trial carrying on this week. They had another male escort called the Punisher come in and testify today or whatever. But just let me read this. Some of these stories are so stupid and out of bounds to me. Like, you know, I think. Did I tell them about last week? Like, one of the headlines was P. Diddy's daughters go to prom?
Cindy Overton
Yeah, well, maybe not.
Woody Overton
You did read that to me, but that's kind of. That they are. So instead of reading each one, because I'm sure you all getting an earful from everybody else, I'll just read you some of these headlines. Okay. First one says, aubrey o' Day says, Sean Diddy Combs trial is bittersweet. I've been speaking the truth about Diddy for 20 years. I don't even know who that is, but evidently she's somebody famous, right?
Cindy Overton
Yes.
Woody Overton
All right, do you know who she is?
Cindy Overton
I only know that she makes a lot of tiktoks and says those exact words all the time.
Woody Overton
All right, well, here's the next one I was just talking about. Diddy's twin daughters, Jesse and Delilah, 18, attend their high school prom in LA after appearing in father's criminal trial. Okay. Really? All right, so the next one. Sean Diddy Combs, ex Misa Hilton, speaks out after attending court to support their son amid rapper sex trafficking trial. All right, they're gonna talk to the plumber next. The next one. Dawn Richard testifies. Usher and others were present when Diddy allegedly punched Cassie in the stomach. Okay, y' all, this is just headline after headline after headline, and it's all Diddy. Here's another one. Diddy allegedly attacked Cassie's friend with a wooden hanger. Then she begged Cassie to leave him. That's another testimony. Next one. Diddy trial day six live. Former Danity Kane member Don Richard begins day on the witness stand. All right, I'm sure you all know what that's about. I don't think I'm ever gonna find out. Next one. Did he used hammer to try to break down Cassie's door after showing up at her apartment following the hotel assault. Right. I mean, this is like non stop, y' all. This from all the national news agencies. I mean, I guess they're trying to each one find something somebody hasn't covered. Next one. Diddy said he had Cassie right where I wanted her because she was young and immoldable. And that's as another assistant testified to that. Next one. Sean Diddy cones hotel room had baby oil, Pink ketamine and $9,000 cash. See new revealed evidence photos. Okay, next one because you don't have to go far. Next one. Did he carry pills with Obama's face on them? Ex assistant testifies. All right. I mean, that's so relevant, right? So the. Anyway, next one. Sex worker employee that Diddy's freak offs was former reality star whose life took a dark turn. Okay, I don't know who it is. Don't care. The next one. Why did he made assistant take lie detector test administered by an ex FBI agent? Now I want to talk about this one for a minute. Half a second because I did read it because obviously I'm a polygrapher. The this guy gets up there and says he became did his personal assistant within two years the first time he was accused of taking money. And he said the guy ex FBI agent. I don't know who the hell it is. First of all, you can't force your employees to take under 1988 Employee Polygraph Protection act. You have to go through a ton of legal hurdles just. Just to get. And you can't. I mean you have to ask them would they be on take. And then they got sign a form and you got to give them 72 hours and da, da, da, da, da. And it can't be used against him. Guess what? He passed his first one. And then within two years some jury Went missing, and he was forced to take another one. He said, I was sweating and da, da, da, da. Everybody takes polygraph sweats. But he passed it. And he said that. Did he replace some of the stolen diamonds with fake diamonds? I mean. I mean, it's kind of. They're digging up and the. The. All right, let's. Next One exotic dancer testifies he was paid to do something for Diddy at Trump Tower with one unusual request.
Cindy Overton
Do they say the unusual request?
Woody Overton
I didn't read it, but I'll read it for you real quick if you want to know. So Shara Hayes testified on Tuesday. That's how far back we are. The he's. It's a male exotic dancer. And he was paid 800 to stage a sexy scene for Combs and then girlfriend Cassandra Cassidy Ventura while avoiding eye contact with the music mogul he share. Hayes, also known as the punisher, told jurors in Manhattan in federal court on Tuesday, May 20, that he was called to Trump Tower hotel suite in the fall of 2012 when Venture greeted him wearing a wig as well as a bathrobe and nothing underneath. Hayes is now 51. Testified that Vetera handed him a sack of money with 800 inside. That's not a very big sack.
Cindy Overton
No.
Woody Overton
And told him to create a sexy scene of me and her applying baby oil on each other and create a sexy environment that her husband would come upon. Like he just walked in accidentally. Okay. She said do not acknowledge her husband. Try not to look at him. And no communication. This is what the punish is saying. Whatever. I'm not ready to say. Let's go to the next one. Next one. Did he Trial day seven live. Did his former personal assistant, Cassie's mom, both testify? Okay, next one. I mean, this Cassie's mom testifies. Did he extorted 20,000 from her and it had to do with Kid Cootie, whoever that is. Next one. Kid Cie expected to testify. Sean did his cone trial this week. I mean, you can't. You can't. I've never seen a story that had this many freaking headlines in it about one case ever. So what next one? What feds found in Diddy's closet? Astro Glide baby oil and a rubber duck. Okay, right. Next one. Diddy trial, day eight live. Witnesses testimony continues with Kid Cootie. 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And for a limited time, you can also get 15% off your entire first order with my code RLRC at checkout. That's H A P P Y M A M m o t h.com and use the code RLRC for 15% off today. All right, so let me get to. I got so many like unique actual crime stories. I'm not that diddy in a crime, but the real life crime stories that don't get the, the news. Right. You know, I like some fried chicken.
Cindy Overton
You do.
Woody Overton
And I'm kind of connoisseur fried chicken.
Cindy Overton
Because that goes kind of with your wings.
Woody Overton
Yeah, yeah. And, and I try it, you know, pretty much everywhere I go. Kind of like. Yeah, like the wings or bloody marriage. Right. And but you know, I love me some Popeyes. Love that Popeyes. Right. And Al Copeland's junior. I knew him from Saint Stanislaus way back in the day. And I remember when senior used to fly and he had this big Chinook helicopter with Popeyes painted on it and he would land in a lot beside the school and never be a Mississippi state trooper waiting on Merry every Friday to, to write him a ticket and asked him, said, why do you land there when you know you're going to get the ticket? He said if I can afford to fly this bird, I can afford to land it where I want to that's right. And we also had. I had the case where a dude went in Popeyes and Walker and ran. He's the one that I coined the phrase ran like a little one. And shot his wife and then ultimately decapitated almost death do his part, to death do us part. Y' all go check that one out. Real life crime. Original. Let's go to North Carolina, because Popeyes is famous everywhere now. Right. And they got, you know, pretty reasonable chicken. I mean, as far as on my chicken scale.
Cindy Overton
Yeah.
Woody Overton
The spicy, of course, I like the spice.
Cindy Overton
There's also a trend now where people are doing their birthday parties at Popeyes.
Woody Overton
Really?
Cindy Overton
Yes. Like they're literally just showing up and having birthday parties anyway.
Woody Overton
Must be nice. Well, in North Carolina, this one, Popeyes, you didn't want to be in because they got a 22 year old who has been charged with attempted first degree murder. And this happened on May 11th, so. But he is a Popeyes or was a Popeyes employee.
Cindy Overton
Okay.
Woody Overton
So he's working at a Popeyes and he. You know, one of the things I like about Popeyes is the biscuits.
Cindy Overton
Oh, my God.
Woody Overton
They are good. Good butter flavor. I mean, I'm sure it's probably real butter, but whatever. But the biscuits are very good. Now you get biscuit pretty much within chicken order. You gonna get. You do. I like the season fries too, but the. This guy was working with another guy, and they were making some biscuits, and then they got into an argument over the biscuits, and he shot the victim. All right, so Rodney Wood is 22, was arrested in Charlotte, North Carolina, about 6pm local time on Sunday, May 11, according to Mecklenburg county arrest records. And he's been charged with attempted first degree murder and assault with a deadly weapon with intent to the kill.
Cindy Overton
Yeah, right.
Woody Overton
He didn't mean. Pretty sure. You shoot somebody, you have intent to kill.
Cindy Overton
Right.
Woody Overton
But they. I guess they got to put that on there for whatever reason. So the fight began inside. The Popeyes was on South Boulevard over there. And according to the police report, the. A customer witnessed the incident, said that Wood got into an argument with a fellow employee over burnt biscuits.
Cindy Overton
Oh, well, that's a.
Woody Overton
That's a whole other story that's worth going to prison for the rest of your life. So the witness said the employees took the argument outside after one challenged the other. Like, you want to talk about my burnt biscuits? Take this outside. I'll show you a burnt biscuit. Well, they did, and they went outside and it led to. To a fight. And old boy Wood pulls out a Gun and shot the other employee two times.
Cindy Overton
Damn. Right over burnt biscuits.
Woody Overton
Burnt biscuits. And unlike the Popeyes and Walker when they had cameras everywhere and I had to lie to the guy and I told him I had him on camera etc to get the confession and the cameras weren't actually working right. This Popeyes cameras were working well, good for them. So in court documents, the police say that the video taken from the scene shows Wood discharging his firearm twice at point blank range. That means close as, Right? So they said the bullets hit the victims and it hadn't released his name. In the groin and chest. Oh, I'm pretty sure I'd rather take two to the chest and one in the groin.
Cindy Overton
Oh my gosh.
Woody Overton
He was rushed at Atrium Health Carolina's medical center where he underwent emergency surgery. Now, woods, he ran like a little bit. Fitting in a Popeye, right? He ran like a little after he did the double shooting. Pulled the trigger twice. But cops found him shortly after in the same shopping center as the restaurant. So he didn't get far?
Cindy Overton
No. Yeah, probably hiding in plain sight.
Woody Overton
Probably. So he then tells the cops that his co worker had punched him in the face three times once they stepped outside. And he claimed that he fired two warning shots that were not intended to be fatal. Well, well, well.
Cindy Overton
Shouldn't have fired shots.
Woody Overton
How the you working at Popeyes and you carrying a gun. So. However, the cops said that Wood failed to articulate a credible imminent threat of deadly force necessary to support his self defense claim under state law. Both Wood and the victim were managers at the Popeyes location. And so, you know managers, they must be making a ton of money, right, to be rolling with. With pistols. Come on, man, what's next? Fast food employees gotta have a metal detector, go to work?
Cindy Overton
Well, they went outside and that's probably where he got his gun.
Woody Overton
You don't know that they went out. The witness said they went outside and started fist fighting and he pulled a gun and shot him. He just said he ran in his car and got him. Okay, so anyway, there you go, Popeyes. And Popeyes. Love that chicken from Popeyes. You know, my favorite chicken place. Y' all just closed down. There was a hole in the wall gas station in my hometown in Clinton, Louisiana. Our hometown, where we were raised. And the. I mean, just. I don't know how this. They made this chicken so good. It was huge pieces of chicken. And I went in there like 4 o' clock in the morning when I swim. Went in there. Four o' clock in the morning one night, just Hammered. And now in the morning time, they start to serve in like bacon and biscuits and like that. They had all this chicken up there and Swims, like, knew the guys was like, man, what you gonna do with all that chicken? And they were like, we will sell it. I said, well, you got to give me a good deal. I know it's been sitting up there for a minute. And Swim ultimately walked out with like 75 pieces of chicken for like $10, 40 bucks. Anyway, so that. That happened. But get your chicken when.
Cindy Overton
I know another time when Swim went in at the other location in Greensburg. And they knew who you were.
Woody Overton
Yeah, right.
Cindy Overton
They had already. They had been told, lady, who Swim was. They did know who.
Woody Overton
Chicken fetish. Well, now I'm going there because it reminds me of the chicken story.
Cindy Overton
I was gonna say. I don't think that would be.
Woody Overton
All right, what you got?
Cindy Overton
I gotta.
Woody Overton
I gotta tell us a story that the people don't know about.
Cindy Overton
Well, they don't know about this one. This one. We're going to France.
Woody Overton
France. So this is a. It's time for worldwide crime. What's happening in France? The land of French fries.
Cindy Overton
February of 2023. Philippe Schneider, who is a 69 year old former butcher and pizza chef.
Woody Overton
Yeah, I love me a good butcher.
Cindy Overton
Right.
Woody Overton
And probably a pizza chef too. I like pizza.
Cindy Overton
I know this speaks to you. Along with his partner, who was 45 years old. So he had a younger woman, Natalie Caboose.
Woody Overton
All right.
Cindy Overton
And they attempted to rob their Neighbor, who was 60, and his name was George Mishler. Okay, I'm trying to pronounce these French names. Right. And they were in the remote village.
Woody Overton
Nobody cares if you get the name right.
Cindy Overton
Of Brasque France.
Woody Overton
Even if you got that name wrong. They don't care. Okay, you're doing great.
Cindy Overton
So Mishler was known to live as a recluse in a small stone house without electricity or running water. So Schneider and Caboose decided that they were going to burglarize him. Okay. So they confessed that during the burglary, they tied and gagged Mishler, which only intending to steal money and cannabis from him, they tied him up, they gagged him, then for whatever reason, they went back and they found him dead.
Woody Overton
Right.
Cindy Overton
Okay. So he had suffocated from the gag. So in an attempt to cover the crime, the butcher dismembered Meischler's body, burned his head, his hands, his feet, and scattered the remains around the property. And in Mishler's van, he also admitted to cooking parts of the Body with vegetables, claiming it was part of a ritual he had learned in Nepal to mask.
Woody Overton
He could tell me what it tastes like.
Cindy Overton
Well, he just wanted to mask the smell, I guess, of the boiling.
Woody Overton
I wouldn't waste vegetables on it if you weren't gonna eat it.
Cindy Overton
Well, the case came to light when Mishler's daughter received an unusual text message from his phone, which is. Which was out of character for him. And that prompted the missing person's investigation. And police eventually found Snyder and Cabuse driving Mishler's van, which contained bags of his human remains and blood. A third individual, 25 year old grave digger. I mean, they've got a full gambit of things here. Loup Ben Raquia is also on trial for complicity. He testified that Schneider instructed him to cook the meat until it falls off the bones.
Woody Overton
Okay. That's how we do it.
Cindy Overton
And to tell anyone who asked what it was. It was food for the dog.
Woody Overton
Makes it tender. Tender to eat.
Cindy Overton
Yeah.
Woody Overton
And then when you cook, it falls off the bottom.
Cindy Overton
Yeah. And then if it's a squirrel, you still have to. Then you bread it and fry it.
Woody Overton
Well, you got a squirrel you got to pressure cook because they're so tough.
Cindy Overton
Yeah.
Woody Overton
And then the. Especially the big fox squirrels, you pressure cook it and then you cut them up. Once it cools, you cut them up and then you batter and fry it.
Cindy Overton
So Schneider has expressed remorse, stating, I have no words to express my guilt and my many regrets. And his lawyer described him as someone who had spiraled into a life of alcohol and drugs, leading to this completely crazy idea of burglary.
Woody Overton
Well, there you have it. Cook them, serve them up and get away with it. Maybe you do, maybe you don't. So. But you just reminded me of another story I've been wanting to talk about. And we were going to go stay across. It's time for worldwide crime. Yeah, I got a lot of different angles I want to go today because I had a lot of execution stuff that I want to do, but you keep reminding me other stories that I want to do. We're going to Ireland.
Cindy Overton
All right.
Woody Overton
Ireland. And this guy, Michael Gain, reported missing from his home in Ireland on March 21st. And the last time he seen was the day prior. And 56 years old farmer, you know, they. And so the cops come out and they look. I'm just kind of paraphrasing this long af the. They come out and they look for him and you can't really find them and everything. And then there was this tank with manure in it and they had even emptied it evidently and couldn't find it. But then two months after he's. He's dead. Okay. They find human remains. Where do you think that found him? That's right. They found in liquid manure spread across the land almost two months after he was reported missing. So he was the last seen Michael Gaines, 56 last seen the Kenmare town on March 20 and it was reported that the the next day on the 21st missing the amid the ongoing search, human remains were discovered over the weekend and liquid manure spread across his farm. The they hadn't said technically that it's. It's human remains yet, but they. They know it's going to be right. So what. What happened was he was killed and then they cut him up, chunked him up, sliced them up, dice them up and dumped him in his manure tank with slurry for the fertilizers for the field. The police confirmed this is a now a homicide investigation and there is now declared the whole farm has been declared a crime scene. And the and being a good old homicide investigation, they're a little bit ahead of the game because the cops have already arrested another dude who's in his 50s and I given his name and he is being. I don't know, it must be different in Ireland. They arrest him and can detain him for so long. But they said the homicide investigation led led by a senior investigating officer in the Serious Crime Unit, the Carrie Garada division is ongoing and supported by the Garda National Bureau investigation. And on Sunday afternoon, 18th of May, a male agent is 50s has been arrested on suspicion of murder. The male is being detained under the provision of Section 4 of the Criminal Justice Act 1984, blah blah, blah, blah, blah. And they're continuing to carry out searches and technical examinations at the. At the victim's farm.
Cindy Overton
How do you do? Liquid manure?
Woody Overton
Yeah, I think it's like a shit tank. Not hardship. The like they, you know, you could put in. Okay, shovel out all the stalls, throw them in this tank, add water to it and that's fertilizer in the world. Right?
Cindy Overton
Well like our compost that we have.
Woody Overton
Same same, same concept. And this one, you just put human remains in it makes your grow better. Yeah, right. Okay. No big deal.
Cindy Overton
So is that why our. Our garden is so fertile this year?
Woody Overton
I'm not gonna answer that one. All right, so what I do want y' all have a bunch that look the. The world is stepping up on the executions and I know I'm jumping your ship I got like three or four of these to tell the. I mean, you know, I love a good execution because these motherfuckers deserve it. And now they all been on death row forever. And I don't care how you feel about the death penalty. I'm telling you how I feel in. Let me tell you about one guy, Benjamin Ritchie, 45. Yeah, they killed his ass and. But he killed a police officer. I'm just going to kind of paraphrase because otherwise it'd be too long. He killed a police officer and he died by lethal injection. And. But he says he filed a last minute study. He says the execution is wrong because of how he was born. Yeah, that's a new one for me, right? I mean one too fat. He's been on, he's been right, he's been on death row for 20 years and he just says that, hey, you know what, you shouldn't kill me because of the way I was born. But now we'll tell you the truth. Officer William Toney lost his life 25 years ago serving the community he lived in. This is according to Beach Grove Police Department. It's a taken a solemn oath to uphold the constitution and the laws of this great state that its citizens may lead a peaceful life. His life was violently taken from him by an individual whose actions adversely affected the innocent and ripped at the very fabric that holds societies together. And while there is no peace in the execution, there is comfort in the realization that society has kept its promise to the men and women of law enforcement to hold those accountable for their reckless choices and damaging actions so that those still serving find strength knowing that their service is not in vain. Right. And that's the truth. And the thankfully the Indiana parole board denied Rich's clemency plea to have his sentence commuted to life without parole. So anyway, I could go on and on about this idiot, but I'm gonna tell you about another one. Let's go to South Carolina. And this guy ever kind of reminds me of Gerald Bordelon, who was the last person executed in the state of Louisiana before Governor Jeff Landry. Just line one up about two months ago and, and got him in Borlamas in 2012, I think. Well, South Carolina, this old boy is on death row. His name is James D. Robertson. And you know, you get locked up 23 hours a day, they let you out in your little dog run and you shower, you know, death row it actually probably death row is one of the safest places to work in prisons. People don't know that because they're in there for their serious and they don't have any interaction whatever. But he, you know, it's been there for a moment and he just became best friends with all the people on death row, some of the people in death row. And now I told you, I think the other day that South Carolina is lining them up, stacking them up, killing this year. So they say, after his best friend and four of his fellow death row inmates have been put to death in less than a year, this South Carolina inmate wants to become his own attorney, which would likely mean his own execution in weeks or months. Now a federal judge has ordered a 45 day delay in James Robertson's request to have a different lawyer talk to him and make sure he really wants to fire his own attorneys and deal with, with the likely lethal consequences in his decision. Gerald Borlon in Louisiana, the state of Louisiana had to spend a couple years proving this fucker was sane enough to kill, right? So Robertson, 51, has been on death row since 1999. After killing both his parents in their Rock Hill home. He beat his father with the claw end of a hammer and a baseball bat and he stabbed his mother and he tried to make it look like a robbery in hopes he would get his part of their $2.2 million estate. Now this is not the first time Robertson's fired his lawyers. He's done it before. And not long after he arrived on death row he wanted to drop his appeals after a car playing buddy never appealed his death sentence for setting the van on fire with his daughter inside outside his ex wife's house. Right. So he didn't appeal his. So you know what, I'm gonna go ahead and get mine too. But then change his mind. So one page letter from Robinson landed in federal judge's mailbox on April 7, four days before South Carolina executed its fifth in May in seven months. Go south Carolina. It said Robertson's lawyers had it a difference of opinion. Okay, I don't want him anymore. It says since no ethical attorney will withdraw an appeal that will result in their client's execution. Robertson said he was ready to represent himself. So Robertson's attorney Emily Pavola responded in court documents that Robertson's wasn't taking his medicine. Medication for depression, suffered from chronic back pain. Yes, from laying on your bump 23 hours a day and a skin condition that made him more depressed. And the poor baby was distressed over those five executions that dropped the close knit death row population from 30 to 25. And he misses his buddies, right? So Included was Robertson's best friend on death row, Marion Bowman, Jr. Who was killed by lethal injection on 1-4-31. Now, Pavola, the lawyer, asked the judge to hold off on Robertson's request for four months so he could have a full psychiatric evaluation. He's been on fucking death row for 20 years. But anyway, let's give him another one to decide if he's mentally competent. Prosecutors suggested the judge could talk to Robertson on her own and decide if he was able to act as his own lawyer. Right. But Judge Barry Gordon Baker decided to have a different lawyer talk to Robertson, making sure he understand the implications and consequences of his decision, and get back to her in July. So back in the early 2000s, Robertson also sought to drop all his appeals. He told the judge at the time he thought he got the better end the deal with a death sentence instead of life in prison without parole. And he had been let. He had been let down by every lawyer he encountered since his arrest. And the judge asked Robertson at that 2002 hearing about his friend Michael Pisario's decision to volunteer for the death chamber. He says it hadn't changed my view. What it did was made me understand enhanced reality a bit. To see my best friend go from one day playing cards with me to the next day not being there anymore. He basically has taken a similar route that I'm choosing to take now. And we spoke often about this decision. Right? So volunteers, as they're called in the death penalty circles, have been around since the death penalty was reinstated 50 years ago. And about 10% of all US executions are inmates who agree to die before finishing their appeals. My hat's off to them for real. I mean, right? You. I. Fuck it. If I was in for the shit that they did, I wouldn't want to live on death row for, you know, like gerald Bordelon for 40 years before they executed me. Summer's just around the corner, and the folks at Mint Mobile have a hot take. Getting the summer BOD is out and getting your savings BOD is in. This spring and summer, we want skimpy wireless bills and fat wallets. And with premium wireless plans for just 15 bucks a month, you can have both without breaking the sweat or the bank. I was paying way too much for wireless service and decided to give Mint Mobile a try. And I've been seriously impressed. The call quality is crystal clear, the data speeds are fast, and I'm saving hundreds of dollars. 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Woody Overton
That goes on about that the the couple more quick facts. I won't even go into those stories. Or maybe I will, but from 2000 to 2009, 65 of the 590 US executions involved an inmate who dropped their Appeals, including Timothy McVeigh. We all know him. Asshole. Oklahoma City bomber killed 148 people and from 2020 to now, just seven of the 111 people put to death have been considered volunteers. This ain't volunteering to Be a boy scout leader. The volunteering to get, get your just suffering right. Well whatever the, the less money we got to pay for them.
Cindy Overton
I agree.
Woody Overton
So the prosecutor who sent Robertson to death row said he can understand why inmates choose to stop fighting their sentences. He said if you told me be incarcerated on death row the rest of your life or just go ahead and go to Lord, you know, I might choose a letter too that Tommy Pope said that. But Pope said 26 years ago he also observed a young man with above average intelligence who likes to work the system when he can and often thinks he's smarter than his attorneys. And he says as usual with Jimmy, it will remain to be seen how it plays out to the very end.
Cindy Overton
Well that says a lot because he knows him by his first name.
Woody Overton
Absolutely, absolutely. He's fucking delaying. He knows about to get his issue that five of his homies are missing from the row. And I gotta do one more real quick. This is, you know, I love last words and last meals. All right? So I'm gonna tell you why the, the rules got changed in Texas, all right? Because the and know how to play the system. So the. Let's go back way back to 20th of June 1990. 1990, right. 20 years old, there was a convicted killer killer named James Edward Smith. And he's on Texas death row. And he was asked his final meal request. Now back then they used to do that and he's 37 year old. You know what his response was? They called it eerie. His eerie response was deemed so unnerving, however, that in a death row rarity, his culinary plea was denied. Let me tell you what he did for I'll tell you what his request was. In the years prior, Smith brutally murdered life insurance worker Larry Don Rojas during an armed robbery. And in March 1983, this Kentucky born criminal approached the widow of a female bank teller at a Union National Life insurance company in Houston, Texas. And he was wearing a mask, slid open the glass, pointed a gun at the employee and ordered her to hand over vast sums of cash. Well, she said, go fuck yourself. She refused what she should have done. And Smith turned on another insurance worker, 44 year old Rojas, who complied with his order. Right, gave him the money. But sadly, despite Rojas pleading with this, Smith went on and shot him twice. 11 of the shots which hit him in the chest and he was rushed to the hospital. Rojas was and of course he died. Smith runs like a little bitch, this time in a taxi chased by police officers. And they arrested him and that was, you know, he was charged with murder, blah, blah, blah. So a month after his crimes, he was. A month. A month. Imagine how different was back then. After his crimes, he was found guilty of capital murder and sentenced to death. Now back. Let's get back to the feed. So in death row tradition, when the date was finally set for the execution, the guards, the correctional officers go in there and say, what do you want to eat? Right? Angola used to have a guy, his only job was to prepare the last meal for the people about to be executed. So this is what he says. He says, you know what? I want some reykjava dirt. You know what that is?
Cindy Overton
No.
Woody Overton
I didn't either. It's a type of soul commonly used in voodoo rituals that Smith believe might assist with his reincarnation. And now the body's been locked up on death row, he's been known to practice obscure rituals in his cell. Okay? So his request was denied by the Texas Department of Criminal Justice. And they said that dirt is not on the approved list of foods. Fucking stupid, you. But check this out. This is why he did it. So Smith, they say, smith, you can't have dirt, homie. It's just not on approved list of foods. That's for worms, not humans. You know what Smith said? He said, I'm going to come back after you murder me, and I'm going to haunt this prison for 300 years.
Cindy Overton
Well, good for you. Good for you.
Woody Overton
I'm shaking in my pants, you stupid motherfucker. Ooh, right. But why 300? Not 299 or a thousand or a.
Cindy Overton
Lifetime for the rest.
Woody Overton
Yeah, right. So a couple days later, they execute.
Cindy Overton
Then he's still in prison, right?
Woody Overton
They execute. He's still.
Cindy Overton
He's still in prison.
Woody Overton
Yeah, yeah, still in prison. Prison. Anyway, they executed a couple days later. You know what his last words were? Hari Krishna. Oh, my gosh, you can't make that shit up. So the more and more in Texas, and because I think it's important, the. I mean, you know, dirt, very unusual. So. But back in 2011, Texas had had a. Enough with asking these motherfuckers what they want for the last meal, okay? And this will tell you why. The. There's a white supremacist and murderer named Lawrence Russell Brewer. And they go, this time, Mr. Mr. Brewer, it's your time. What would you like for your last meal In. Okay, now he's in for the brutal Deaths in the 1998 hate killing of James Byrd Jr. And I remember this distinctly. That's where they Drugged the black man behind the car. Oh, and ripped his head off.
Cindy Overton
Yeah.
Woody Overton
So I think it was Jasper, Texas. So he got sentenced for the horrible killing of James Per Jaron. They go to him and say, Ms. Brewer, what do you want? Brewer says, I want two chicken fried steaks, I want a triple meat bacon cheeseburger. I want some fried okra and don't skimp on it. I want a pound of barbecue, I want a trio of fajitas. Yes, I want a meat pizza and I want a pint of ice cream and I want a slab of peanut butter fudge. First final meal. Guess what? Texas did it. And they absolutely did it. And they gave him all this food and then tell you again. Two fried, two chicken fried steaks, triple meat bacon cheeseburger, fried okra, a pound of barbecue trio fajitas, a meat pizza, pint ice cream and a slab of peanut butter fudge. They bring it to a cell and Brewer says, haha, go yourself. I'm not taking a bite of any of it. Right. I mean these are the ones that, you know, they're not up there for regular murder. They're up there for the most horrendous, heinous, horrendous, heinous crimes that have ever been committed. They, they've been sentenced not to breathe anymore. And you know what? Brewer refused to eat a single bite. And state senator John Whitmire, and it's been held up since now demanded that Texas prison Officials in the 87 year old tradition of giving them whatever the fuck they wanted.
Cindy Overton
I agree.
Woody Overton
Yeah.
Cindy Overton
I've often wondered why they even allow that. Like why would you want to give him some great last meal? I mean he's not Jesus with the last.
Woody Overton
They're gonna put a diaper on him anyway. He's gonna on himself when they kill him.
Cindy Overton
Yeah, right. I mean if I was making the last meal, I might be like the woman at that Dollar General. I might be peeing in it. I might have. I might.
Woody Overton
If you're making it for the killer.
Cindy Overton
Killer. Yeah, yeah. He will get contaminated food.
Woody Overton
It's convicts that make the food, you said. Correction.
Cindy Overton
Angola. There was a special person.
Woody Overton
So it was, it was a convict that was convicted. He was a trustee. His only job was to. But besides, when dignitaries came in, they brought him in this fancy place that they have built. His job used to be to cook whatever the last request was from.
Cindy Overton
Okay, I thought so.
Woody Overton
You know, like the public service announcement. 10,100 the prisoners are forced to cook their own food. Well, I knew that but including the ones that are being executed.
Cindy Overton
Yeah.
Woody Overton
And they. They. They oftentimes when I work there anyway, they have at least one civilian employee and a correctional officer sign in the kitchen, and they have to sign out their knives and do whatever and, you know, is what it is. The. There you go. Anyways, another dude got executed this week, too. And you know what he did? And I don't know this asshole's name. He went in to rob a convenience store. Little grandma worked behind the counter, and he demands the money. He. You know what he uses as a weapon? He grabbed a bottle of lighter fluid and he sprayed her down with a lighter fluid and demanded the money. She gave the money. He still lit her on fire, that is, burned her not to death instantly. Took her three days to die. And guess what? He just got himself executed by his state. So it could go on and on. It seems like the. The dates of death are warming up.
Cindy Overton
Yeah.
Woody Overton
As they should be.
Cindy Overton
Yeah.
Woody Overton
So anyway, hope y' all enjoyed it. The love, love, love y' all. Love you. Love you. Tomorrow we're doing a special drop. If it all goes according to plan, hashtag justice for Haley. Oh, wait till we tell you all the stuff that happened in the case. Now, you know she had a phone call with a district attorney will explain that. Then we got to tell you the shit that's happened since then. Right? And then we're going to do a call to action, and it's going to be a good call to action.
Cindy Overton
Right?
Woody Overton
And love and appreciate every one of y' all. You got anything, mama?
Cindy Overton
No.
Woody Overton
And with that, we all finish. And I'm Woody Overton.
Cindy Overton
I'm Cindy Overton.
Woody Overton
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Podcast Summary: Real Life Real Crime - True Crime Time For May 22, 2025
Host: Woody Overton
Co-Host: Cindy Overton
Release Date: May 22, 2025
Episode Title: Drew Garnier Murder Case, Death Row Last Meals and Executions
Timestamp: [02:55] – [07:05]
In this segment, Cindy Overton delves into the harrowing Drew Garnier murder case that unfolded in Masonville, New York, on September 4, 2024. The case centers around Drew Garnier, who brutally murdered his wife, Samantha, and their unborn daughter due to his dissatisfaction with the gender of the baby. The violent incident extended to their two young daughters, Adelina (9) and Izzy (6), who survived despite severe injuries.
Incident Details:
"On the night of September 4th, Drew stabbed Samantha multiple times, fatally wounding her and their unborn daughter. He then turned the knife on their two daughters, inflicting severe injuries on both."
— Cindy Overton [03:57]
Aftermath and Legal Proceedings:
Drew called 911, confessing to killing his family. Samantha was pronounced dead shortly after being airlifted to Wilson Medical Center, along with the unborn child. The children were hospitalized with critical but survivable injuries.
Plea Deal:
In March 2025, Drew entered a plea deal, admitting guilt to first-degree manslaughter and two counts of first-degree assault. This plea was part of an effort to spare the children from having to testify and relive the trauma.
Sentencing:
At sentencing on May 15, Samantha’s father, Gregory, delivered a poignant victim impact statement, stating, "I am their father now. I will protect them." Judge John Hubbard sentenced Drew Garnier to 30 years in prison, followed by 15 years of supervised release, and issued a no-contact order until 2056. The district attorney highlighted the achievement of securing a conviction without forcing the young children to testify, emphasizing their ongoing support and recovery.
Timestamp: [07:15] – [44:48]
Woody and Cindy extensively covered the high-profile trial of Sean "Diddy" Combs, focusing on various sensational headlines and testimonies surrounding the case. The discussion reveals a complex web of allegations, including violence, harassment, and questionable behavior.
High-Profile Testimonies:
"Popeyes allegedly attacked Cassie's friend with a wooden hanger. Then she begged Cassie to leave him."
— Woody Overton [08:09]
Witness Accounts:
An exotic dancer, Shara Hayes, testified about being paid to stage a sexy scene for Diddy and his girlfriend, linking back to incidents at Trump Tower. Hayes described Diddy's manipulative behavior, stating, "He wanted a sexy scene where his husband would accidentally walk in."
Legal Maneuvers:
Woody highlighted the numerous legal strategies employed by Diddy and his legal team, including the use of polygraph tests and attempts to manipulate jury perceptions. He remarked, "You can't force your employees to take under the 1988 Employee Polygraph Protection Act."
Media Frenzy:
The episode enumerates the relentless media coverage, with headlines such as:
Cindy’s Perspective:
Cindy expressed frustration over the repetitive and sensational nature of the coverage, stating, "This from all the national news agencies. I mean, I guess they're trying to find something somebody hasn't covered."
The hosts emphasized the exhaustive nature of the trial, noting the plethora of testimonies and the impact on those involved.
Timestamp: [26:07] – [30:10]
Transitioning to an international perspective, Cindy recounts the gruesome Philippe Schneider case from France, highlighting the disturbing details of the crime and the subsequent investigation.
Crime Details:
In February 2023, Philippe Schneider, a 69-year-old former butcher and pizza chef, along with his 45-year-old partner, Natalie Caboose, attempted to rob their reclusive neighbor, George Mishler, a 60-year-old living in a remote village. During the burglary, they tied and gagged Mishler intending to steal money and cannabis.
"In an attempt to cover the crime, the butcher dismembered Mishler's body, burned his head, hands, and feet, and scattered the remains around the property."
— Cindy Overton [27:12]
Dismemberment and Rituals:
Schneider admitted to cooking parts of Mishler’s body with vegetables, claiming it was a ritual from Nepal to mask the smell.
Discovery and Investigation:
The case was brought to light when Mishler’s daughter received an unusual text from his phone, prompting a missing person investigation. Authorities discovered Schneider and Caboose with Mishler's remains in his van, leading to their arrest.
Legal Proceedings:
A third individual, Loup Ben Raquia, a 25-year-old grave digger, was also implicated and testified about Schneider's instructions to cook the meat until it fell off the bones.
Schneider’s Remorse:
Schneider expressed profound regret: "I have no words to express my guilt and my many regrets," while his lawyer revealed his descent into alcohol and drugs as factors leading to the crime.
This case underscores the extreme measures perpetrators may take to conceal their crimes and the ensuing complexities in the legal process.
Timestamp: [34:00] – [55:57]
The hosts shift focus to the somber topic of death row executions, exploring recent cases, the psychology of inmates, and changes in death row traditions.
Benjamin Ritchie’s Execution:
Benjamin Ritchie, 45, who killed a police officer, was executed by lethal injection. Despite his plea claiming his birth circumstances as a reason for his execution, the Indiana parole board denied his clemency, affirming the state's commitment to upholding justice for fallen officers.
"Officer William Toney lost his life 25 years ago serving the community... Drew Garnier... it took lives and injured your children."
— Cindy Overton [06:31]
James D. Robertson’s Case in South Carolina:
James D. Robertson, 51, has been on death row since 1999 for the brutal murder of his parents. Recently, he expressed a desire to represent himself, a move that resulted in a 45-day delay for psychiatric evaluation to ensure his mental competence.
"He killed both his parents in their Rock Hill home... He said he was ready to represent himself."
— Woody Overton [30:10]
Historical Perspective on Last Meals:
The podcast recounts the case of James Edward Smith in Texas (1990), whose unnerving last meal request of "Reykjava dirt" was denied, leading to a change in Texas death row traditions. The rejection resulted in Texas ending the tradition of providing last meal requests, as seen in Lawrence Russell Brewer’s case, where his elaborate meal was consumed without any acknowledgment.
"Smith said, 'I'm going to come back after you murder me, and I'm going to haunt this prison for 300 years.'"
— Woody Overton [50:07]
Current Execution Trends:
Woody discusses the ongoing executions in various states, highlighting the emotional and psychological toll on inmates and their relationships with fellow death row prisoners. The hosts critique the system's handling of inmates' mental health and the ethical implications of last meal practices.
Legislative and Social Reactions:
Incidents like Brewer's refusal to consume his last meal have sparked debates and demands for reform, with state senators advocating for changes to the long-standing traditions surrounding executions.
"I often wonder why they even allow that. Like why would you want to give him some great last meal?"
— Cindy Overton [53:23]
Timestamp: [55:31] – [55:57]
Woody wraps up the episode by teasing upcoming content, including a special drop on the "Hashtag Justice For Haley" case and a call to action for listeners to engage with ongoing projects aimed at solving cold cases and advocating for justice.
"Tomorrow we're doing a special drop. If it all goes according to plan, hashtag justice for Haley."
— Woody Overton [55:45]
The hosts express their gratitude to listeners, emphasizing their commitment to uncovering untold real-life crime stories and supporting victims' families through their investigative efforts.
Notable Quotes:
Cindy Overton on Drew Garnier Case:
"I want to, I want them to plead guilty because I don't want the children to have to get up and testify and go relive that."
[05:24]
Woody Overton on Execution Practices:
"If I was in for the shit that they did, I wouldn't want to live on death row for, you know, like Gerald Bordelon for 40 years before they executed me."
[34:00]
Cindy Overton on Last Meal Refusals:
"I often wonder why they even allow that. Like why would you want to give him some great last meal?"
[53:23]
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