True Crime Time For May 8, 2025 | Mother's Day Crimes, Lady Gaga Concert Incident, AI In Court and Murdered Wife in Australia

Summary

Real Life Real Crime: True Crime Time For – May 8, 2025

Hosted by Woody Overton and Cindy Overton

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Introduction

In this episode of True Crime Time For, hosted by Woody Overton and Cindy Overton, the duo delves into a series of chilling true crime stories that unfolded around Mother's Day. From thwarted terrorist plots at major concerts to unsettling incidents involving AI in the courtroom, the episode offers a gripping exploration of heinous crimes and their intricate details.

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Mother's Day Crimes

[03:00 – 07:43]

The episode opens with the hosts discussing various crimes that occurred around Mother's Day, highlighting the dark side of what is typically a day of celebration.

Lady Gaga Concert Incident

Incident Overview:

On May 3rd, during a historic free concert by Lady Gaga in Rio de Janeiro, Brazil, an attempted bombing threatened the safety of around 1.5 million attendees.

Key Points:

• Suspect Apprehension: The suspect, whose identity remains undisclosed, was arrested after authorities intercepted communications about his plan to detonate an explosive aimed at harming a child in the crowd.

• Lack of Motive: Police have yet to determine the suspect's motive or whether he acted alone.

• Quick Response: Brazilian law enforcement enhanced security measures promptly, preventing the attack and ensuring the safety of concert-goers.

Notable Quotes:

• Cindy Overton: "But the concert was overshadowed by a person trying to set a bomb with the intent of killing one child." [05:57]

• Woody Overton: "So they don't know that." [06:41]

Oklahoma City Food Hall Shooting

Incident Overview:

On May 5th, Cinco de Mayo and the anniversary of the Oklahoma City Thunder's playoff game were marred by a tragic shooting at The Collective, a popular food hall and bar in Oklahoma City.

Key Points:

• Casualties: Seven people were shot, with two others injured by flying glass.

• Timeline: The shooting occurred around 11 PM during the event, leading to chaos and fear among attendees.

• Aftermath: No arrests have been made to date. The Collective focuses on providing mental health support and medical assistance to the victims' families.

Notable Quotes:

• Woody Overton: "Seven people were shot and two others were injured by flying glass during the shooting at a popular Oklahoma City food hall." [07:45]

• Cindy Overton: "It's really upsetting and it just breaks our heart." [08:30]

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AI in the Courtroom: The Christopher Pelke Case

[10:20 – 16:06]

One of the most intriguing segments discusses the unprecedented use of AI technology in a courtroom setting.

Incident Overview:

In 2021, Christopher Pelke, a 37-year-old Army veteran from Chandler, Arizona, was involved in a road rage incident that escalated into tragedy.

Key Points:

• The Incident: Pelke was arrested after firing two shots at another driver, resulting in the death of his own wife, Jacqueline Davidson.

• AI-Generated Video: Pelke's family, seeking closure and justice, utilized AI technology to create a video featuring Jacqueline expressing forgiveness towards him. This marked the first known use of AI-generated content in a courtroom.

• Legal and Ethical Implications: The courtroom was deeply affected by the AI-generated message, leading to discussions about the ethical use of AI in legal settings and the authenticity of such representations.

Notable Quotes:

• Cindy Overton: "They created a digital representation of Pelke that could deliver a message in his likeness." [12:13]

• Woody Overton: "I'm now in Louisiana legislature. My first bill I'm going to pass is no AI generated victim packs." [13:34]

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Murdered Wife in Australia: The Jacqueline Davidson Case

[16:06 – 25:46]

The hosts recount the tragic story of Jacqueline Davidson, whose death initially appeared accidental but later revealed layers of suspicion and fraud.

Incident Overview:

In November 2020, Jacqueline Davidson and her husband Grammy went kayaking on Lake Samson Vale in Queensland, Australia. While Jacqueline drowned, suspicions arose years later regarding the circumstances of her death.

Key Points:

• Initial Investigation: Initially deemed a simple drowning accident with no foul play suspected.

• Renewed Investigation: Over the following year, inconsistencies in the case, including suspicious insurance claims by Grammy Davidson, prompted authorities to reopen the investigation.

• Arrest and Charges: In May 2025, Grammy Davidson was arrested in Brisbane, charged with murder, fraud, and attempted fraud after fleeing to Thailand and returning to face justice.

Notable Quotes:

• Inspector Steve Windsor: "We know there are people out there who may think their information is too minor to matter, but it all helps this case." [25:46]

• Woody Overton: "It's really upsetting and it just breaks our heart." [22:20]

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Additional Crimes and Incidents

[25:46 – 32:28]

The episode further explores other notable crimes, including:

Treacherous Bonding: The Trevor McEwen Case

Incident Overview:

Trevor McEwen, charged with capital murder in Texas for killing his Hispanic neighbor, Aaron Martinez, managed to secure a substantial bond and subsequently fled, evading further justice.

Key Points:

• Charges: McEwen was charged with capital murder, a crime typically not eligible for bond.

• Bond and Bail: He secured a $2 million bond, likely through a bondsman, raising questions about the efficacy of the judicial system in high-stakes cases.

• Flight: McEwen failed to appear for his court date on May 5th, leading authorities to search for him without any substantial leads on his whereabouts.

Notable Quotes:

• Woody Overton: "He's still good. Okay, well, on May 5th, Cinco de Mayo and our anniversary..." [28:06]

• Cindy Overton: "That's crazy." [32:28]

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Conclusion: Reflections on Mother's Day and Crime

[32:28 – 49:51]

The hosts wrap up the episode by reflecting on the juxtaposition of Mother's Day as a celebration against the backdrop of these tragic crimes.

Key Points:

• Tribute to Mothers: Despite the dark stories, Woody and Cindy emphasize the importance of honoring and appreciating mothers.

• Personal Anecdotes: They share personal stories and sentiments about their own mothers, adding an emotional layer to the discussion.

• Final Thoughts: The hosts encourage listeners to cherish their relationships with their mothers and to be mindful of the underlying issues that can lead to such tragedies.

Notable Quotes:

• Woody Overton: "Treat if your mama, if you're still enough blessed enough to have your mom... give them all the loves and hugs that you can." [36:33]

• Cindy Overton: "I'm Cindy Overton." [47:52]

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Closing Remarks

The episode concludes with final thoughts on Mother's Day and a heartfelt message to mothers everywhere, juxtaposing the day's intended celebration with the somber stories discussed.

Notable Quotes:

• Woody Overton: "All you mamas out there, you can say efforts." [36:34]

• Cindy Overton: "Well, you give your mama all the gifts in the world or you could just give her a crayon-made car." [36:34]

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Final Thoughts

This episode of True Crime Time For masterfully intertwines multiple true crime narratives, each linked by the tragic coincidence of occurring around Mother's Day. Through detailed storytelling and insightful commentary, Woody and Cindy Overton provide listeners with a compelling exploration of crime, justice, and the profound impact on families and communities.

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Transcript

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[Woody Overton]

Hello, everybody, and welcome to this episode of True crime. Time for Thursday, May 8, 2025. And I'm Woody Overton.

[Cindy Overton]

I'm Cindy Overton.

[Woody Overton]

And here it comes. Mother's Day weekend. Happy Mother's Day weekend.

[Cindy Overton]

Thank you.

[Woody Overton]

Right, and then if it quit raining for once, Looks like everything is about to flood. Mississippi river's out of its banks. Our river in the backyard is coming up the thing our friends down on the island look like they might take some water. I hope it doesn't happen.

[Cindy Overton]

I hope it doesn't happen either. That's a.

[Woody Overton]

Weather's been horrible, y' all. And shitty time of the year for the weather. And a little too windy and wet to fish. Too wet to cut the grass.

[Cindy Overton]

Not too wet for a garden to grow. We've got some squash and some bell pepper.

[Woody Overton]

Yeah, but that one box in didn't get it off. We might need to rip those up and buy some plants that are already rooted.

[Cindy Overton]

Okay.

[Woody Overton]

They look like they got murdered the first box.

[Cindy Overton]

Yeah, yeah, but I still think there's a. There's at least a flower on one of the squash plants.

[Woody Overton]

Yeah, but it's a big around as a quarter.

[Cindy Overton]

Well, it's. It's a flower.

[Woody Overton]

I mean, I'll be murdering them, so I must tell you that earlier. All right, let's get down some true crime time for this thirsty Thursday. Do you have something?

[Cindy Overton]

Nothing.

[Woody Overton]

Well, then why are you here?

[Cindy Overton]

You told me to be out here at 4:45.

[Woody Overton]

Okay, well, and also, also since you stuff to prepare. Okay.

[Cindy Overton]

We are going to. Do you want to go to Rio de Janeiro?

[Woody Overton]

I've been there on the Mason race and I've seen the Jesus standing above everything. I'm good.

[Cindy Overton]

You good?

[Woody Overton]

Yeah.

[Cindy Overton]

Okay. What about the famous co. Copacabana.

[Woody Overton]

I'm good.

[Cindy Overton]

You're still good. Okay, well, on May 3rd, since you're.

[Woody Overton]

Going there, it's time for worldwide crime.

[Cindy Overton]

So on May 3rd of this year, Lady Gaga had a historic free concert there. And it had an estimated 1.5 million fans, which was the largest concert ever.

[Woody Overton]

For Rio de Janeiro.

[Cindy Overton]

It was the largest recorded crowd ever for a female artist.

[Woody Overton]

I thought that nappy hair girl that dates Kelsey had big shows.

[Cindy Overton]

She doesn't have nappy any Taylor Swift.

[Woody Overton]

Taylor Swift? I thought she had bigger shows than that.

[Cindy Overton]

Apparently now Lady Gaga has beat I guess Taylor Swift. Okay, I didn't think that you would.

[Woody Overton]

Even think about kinky hair nap head. Same Thing.

[Cindy Overton]

So unfortunately, the concert was overshadowed by a person trying to set a bomb with the intent of killing one child.

[Woody Overton]

At that concert out of 1.5 million. Selective targeting.

[Cindy Overton]

Yes. So according to police reports, the suspect, and they haven't identified him, was arrested after authorities intercepted communications detailing his plan to detonate an explosive device during the concert.

[Woody Overton]

Okay.

[Cindy Overton]

Investigators found evidence suggesting that the man had a specific target, which was the child attending the event. But there's no motive as of yet. They don't have a motive of why that was the intention. And they also don't know if the guy was working alone or not.

[Woody Overton]

So they don't know that.

[Cindy Overton]

They don't know nothing. However, luckily, the Brazilian law enforcement agencies responded quickly and they enhanced the security measures at the event, and the suspect was apprehended before he could even, you know, carry out the plan. And of course, officials are praising the quick action of the police which prevented the tragedy. But the news at the. Obviously, everybody is afraid these days of going to these types of, you know, big events, large outdoor events or whatever, concerts. And so apparently fans and public figures have expressed relief and gratitude for their. The authorities intervention and not, you know, obviously letting this plot carry out. Lady Gaga hasn't said anything yet, but her representative. Representatives have conveyed appreciation for what was done. But the investigation continues. That's all we got.

[Woody Overton]

Wow, this enthralling.

[Cindy Overton]

Well, it's horrible. It is. Well, you sent it to me, buddy, so don't even.

[Woody Overton]

Fucking with you. All right, let me tell you. To another public event now, right now, I know you don't know, but the NBA is in the middle of their playoffs. All right? So, well, on May 5th, Cinco de Mayo and our anniversary, we're going to Oklahoma City and the Thunders in a playoff game. And, well, people don't know how to behave even in the heartland. And seven people were shot and two others were injured by flying glass during the shooting at a popular Oklahoma City food hall. And like I told you, occurred on May 5, a place called the Collective, which is a food hall and bar in Oklahoma city. And around 11pm Police responded to multiple reports of shots being fired at the Collective. And when officers arrived on scene, they found numerous gunshot victims. Now, the Oklahoman reported that four of the shooting victims were in critical condition but were expected to survive. And the Collective was hosting a Cinco de Mayo event that evening with the Oklahoma City Thunder playing a game which was airing on televisions throughout the food hall. And that's when police say fight broke out, shots were fired, Nobody Wants to go fist cuss anymore. It's all flying bullets and the cops think that two people were firing guns. Kind of sounds like your radius story. They ain't got dick. No arrest has been made, but the collective is focusing on the cleanup and providing mental health and counseling service to its employees, blah, blah, blah. And helping up a fund to help victims with the medical bills, they said. We love Oklahoma City here at the Collective and our hearts go out to everyone who is affected by the situation. It's really upsetting and it just breaks our heart. But we are praying and we are really rooting for the recovery of Oklahoma City in Midtown from this situation. You remember the Oklahoma City bombing?

[Cindy Overton]

Yeah.

[Woody Overton]

Some crazy ass I was watching, I was studying, I was in college and I was literally actually studying for an exam. This back when I think CNN was like legit 24 hour news and it came across. Yeah, yeah, I don't. It's everywhere. Can't go to massive in anymore.

[Cindy Overton]

No. And apparently you can't drive down the road anymore either shot.

[Woody Overton]

Yeah, well, we did a couple of road rage incidents since the other day. What happened this time?

[Cindy Overton]

Well, this one is getting more attention because of what the family did afterwards. But. And this happened in Arizona, so in 2021, army veteran who was 37 years old at the time, his name was Christopher Pelke and he was killed in a road rage incident in Chandler, Arizona. So it was like November 2021. And Christopher Pelke was stopped at a red light and a man named Gabriel Jorge, which was the driver behind him, began honking aggressively. Well, Pelke, which was the 37 year old army veteran, he got out of his vehicle, which is mistake number one, and approached Jorgecitas car, which led to a confrontation. And Horquisitas fired two shots, one of which killed Pelke. So Horquesitas was convicted of manslaughter and sentenced to ten and a half years in prison. Now after the trial, the family, Pelkey's family, was determined to honor him. And they did AI generation stuff. So they created a video. Stacy Wells and her husband, and Stacy is Pelkey's sister, used AI technology and compiled videos, audio recordings and personal anecdotes to to create a digital representation of Pelke that could deliver a message in his likeness.

[Woody Overton]

So it's an AI generated video of the victim talking from the grave.

[Cindy Overton]

That's exactly right. And so the AI generated video featured Pelke expressing forgiveness to his killer, stating in another life we probably could have been friends and emphasizing his belief in a forgiving God.

[Woody Overton]

I'm not against that. But Mama said F u M O F. Yeah, you're still a dick for killing.

[Cindy Overton]

Exactly. So apparently the courtroom was deeply moved by the statement, and Judge Todd Lang acknowledged the profound effect of the message, noting a genuine sense of forgiveness conveyed. Pelky's family found solace in the experience, they said, and his brother described waves of healing upon seeing his brother's likeness and hearing his voice.

[Woody Overton]

It was made as artificially.

[Cindy Overton]

It's not right.

[Woody Overton]

Generated. He's probably mad as that he got killed.

[Cindy Overton]

Exactly. So that's what's crazy is that apparently this is the first known case that AI generation was used in the courtroom. And now people are concerned that. That they're going to start generating these things that we don't know is true. We don't know how Pokey would have felt. I mean, you know, like, all right.

[Woody Overton]

I'm now in Louisiana legislature. My first bill I'm going to pass is no AI generated victim pack saves. Unless they call him for blood.

[Cindy Overton]

Exactly. Yeah. Not crazy.

[Woody Overton]

That's crazy. That is crazy. But not as crazy as this foreign. It's time for beast mode. We're gonna go to Springfield, Ohio with cops. We're doing what cops do, making traffic stops. And during the traffic stop, they get the person out of the car. They've got a suspended license and you know, they're working the shit. The. The stop was on Monday, May 5, and Springfield Township Police department did this release. So after the officer made the stop in the contact with the driver, who's identified as 55 year old, my age, Victoria Vidal, she was detained without incident. And you know, the cop just happened walk back up to the car and look in. And that's when Sugar turned for her as things took an unusual turn. And because he looked in the car and what did he see?

[Cindy Overton]

A gun?

[Woody Overton]

No, a baby. This is a beast.

[Cindy Overton]

A dead body. Oh, okay. I don't know.

[Woody Overton]

Saw a raccoon. All right.

[Cindy Overton]

Driving down the road with a raccoon. No, I've had chickens on my shoulders and goats in the back of my.

[Woody Overton]

Yes, you have. But the damn. I missed those chicken eggs. Somebody got in there and made a murder scene, ate them all. Yeah, and I thought I had like Fort Knox.

[Cindy Overton]

I know you did.

[Woody Overton]

They tore that. They did show me that I'm not very good at building a chicken egg chicken prison. Anyway, so it looks at the raccoon. The raccoon's name is Chewy, okay? And raccoon Chewy has got a glass dick in his Mouth what? Yeah, that's what I call meth pipes.

[Cindy Overton]

Yeah. Why is Chewy.

[Woody Overton]

Chewy has a meth pipe in its mouth. Chewy had somehow gotten a hold of the glass methamphetamine. Methamphetamine pipe. Well, you know what the cops are going to do then?

[Cindy Overton]

Arrest the poor Chewy?

[Woody Overton]

No. They're going to search the vehicle. Right. So they do search the vehicle, and guess what happened then?

[Cindy Overton]

They found more.

[Woody Overton]

Surprise, surprise, surprise. They found a bulk amount of methamphetamine, crack cocaine, and three used glass meth pipes. Right.

[Cindy Overton]

That's chewies.

[Woody Overton]

So Vidal, the arrestee is a resident of Akron, Ohio. And of course she's, you know, got arrested, charged with all kinds of charges, including possession of drugs, three counts, possession of drug paraphernalia, and of course, she got a ticket for her suspended driver's license. But naturally she was booked into the whatever city jail. Springfield, Ohio jail.

[Cindy Overton]

That's crazy.

[Woody Overton]

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[Cindy Overton]

Make that a PSA, please.

[Woody Overton]

Yes, meth is bad. PSA announcement 2010. Wow. Right?

[Cindy Overton]

Okay, let's go to Australia.

[Woody Overton]

Okay. It's time for worldwide crime.

[Cindy Overton]

So it's November 27th of 2050. 2050.

[Woody Overton]

Okay, I'm pretty sure I'm be dead at AF by then.

[Cindy Overton]

November 27th of 2020, and a 55 year old man and his wife went kayaking. All right, and they were on Lake Samson Vale in Queensland, Australia, right? And it was supposed to be a beautiful day on the water, and one of them didn't come home. They, they, they, one of them died. So Jacqueline Davidson was pulled from the water after her kayak capsized. And witnesses attempted CPR and paramedics. Paramedics responded quickly, but it was too late. The scene was tragic, but nothing seemed suspicious. At first, police treated her death like a regular drowning accident. No charges were filed, and Gramie, the husband, was free to grieve and move on and rebuild. And that's what he did. But in the months and years that follow, things just didn't sit right with investigators, friends and family. And so eventually investigators decided to take a second look at the case. And they had not like one big reason, but a multitude of little small things that came up. A full year after Jacqueline's death, Queensland police began to reassess the case and they had a growing pile of inconsistencies. So one issue was experts reviewed the lake conditions the day that she died, which included depths, currents, and safety protocols around the area. Jacqueline was found and forensic botanists examined plant life recovered from the scene, comparing it with expected patterns from accidental drownings. And the findings raised eyebrows. But then people started to look at the couple's relationship, and from many sources, they determined, and they found out that the months leading up to this kayaking day, that the couple had a growing sense of distance with each other and a lot of tension. And although there was no history of physical violence reported to any of the friends or family. But what pushed the case over the edge was that the husband started immediately and apparently aggressively trying to collect multiple life insurance policies. And so authorities say Davidson filed claims on several life insurance policies taken out on Jacqueline totaling 1 million Australian dollars, which is about US$650,000. And at least one of the policies, that which was worth several hundred thousand, was denied. And then other claims were still under investigation when police reopened the case. But he was long gone. He had packed up and moved himself over to Thailand, got remarried, and then a few years go by. Well, In May of 2025, Grammy returned to Queensland and the police were ready to arrest him. And so they arrested him at the Brisbane airport, charged him with murder, fraud and attempted fraud, and he was denied bail and he was due in court on May 19th of this year of 2025. So detective acting Inspector Steve Windsor, who's led the renewed investigation, has urged anyone who knew the Davidsons or witnessed their behavior near the time of the incident to come forward. He says, like we always say, even the smallest detail is what we need, and it could make a big difference. And there's a quote from him. He says, we know. We know there are people out there who may think their information is too minor to matter, but it all helps this case proves the persistence and reevaluation can uncover the truth even years later.

[Woody Overton]

Yes. Hashtag justice for Haley, y' all, Today, when you listen to this, it's the last day before Ms. Barbara and them get a meeting with the new district attorney. Send another email or voicemail or whatever. Nothing can be too much nothing. Ms. Barbara Blunt's case. Golly, keep calling you tips, and it'll keep being work. And let me tell you about another dude. I know how you feel about bond and stuff, like people getting on a bond.

[Cindy Overton]

No, I don't like it.

[Woody Overton]

Yeah. Okay. Yeah. And. And it's true that I don't really like it either. But, you know, so many times sitting in the courtroom, the judge will look at the past bonds for whatever offenses were given out of the same court. They try to stay. Everybody has a right to a reasonable, fair bond. Unless they can prove that you are a continuous threat or you're going to, you know, or you might have scone or whatever. Right.

[Cindy Overton]

Yeah.

[Woody Overton]

We're going to Kaufman, Texas, and back in, oh, I think 2023, dude named McEwen moved into a neighborhood. Maybe he should have checked the neighborhood before he moved into it, because he moved into the neighborhood and he met his neighbor, guy named Aaron Martinez, who's 35 years old. Well, you couldn't. Didn't like Martinez. And the fact that he was Hispanic. Oh, now, you know. I'm so far from being racist. But you, Mr. McEwen, you move into Texas, chances are you're going to see some Hispanic people. Right? Anyway, so there were neighbors. McEwen moves in and tells him, you know what, homie, I don't like you. And Hispanic people are not welcome in this area. And I'm pretty sure he didn't say Hispanics.

[Cindy Overton]

He was the one moving into the area.

[Woody Overton]

I'm just telling you what it said. This is by CBS News of Texas. So, you know, naturally, Mr. Martinez a little bit worried about this asshole, right? And his family stated that he had been worried about it since he moved in in July of 2022. Well, McEwen murders him.

[Cindy Overton]

What?

[Woody Overton]

Yeah. And he Got arrested in May of 2023. But the thing was this is what gets me about the whole story is he was arrested and charged with capital murder. Now those people, Capital murder is death penalty case. Most people who are charged with capital murder don't get a bond. Right, Right.

[Cindy Overton]

I mean, I don't know for sure, but. Yeah.

[Woody Overton]

Well, I cannot think of one.

[Cindy Overton]

Right.

[Woody Overton]

That's. It gets a bond. They. They may try to have bond hearings and shit, but you don't get a bond for obvious reasons. I mean this motherfucker killed his neighbor because he was Hispanic in whatever. But the. He gets a bond. And the bond. Guess how much it was.

[Cindy Overton]

250,000.

[Woody Overton]

$2 million. Okay, well, he made it. He got out of bond.

[Cindy Overton]

200,000.

[Woody Overton]

Usually it's like 10 to 12%. So let's say he put up 250 grand to get out.

[Cindy Overton]

Yeah.

[Woody Overton]

All right. All right. Okay. And he got an ankle bracelet. Right. So. Well, house arrest. Well, I don't. I think that bracelet probably has some restrictions like that. Right. So who's set to go to court this Monday? And he didn't show up?

[Cindy Overton]

What?

[Woody Overton]

Nope. And not only did he not show up about 5:30 that morning, Monday, May 5th, Cinco de Mayo, him and he set to go to trial for that 2023 killing of his neighbor. He cuts off his ankle bracelet and runs like a little bit.

[Cindy Overton]

I thought you were gonna tell me he was dead.

[Woody Overton]

No, he's.

[Cindy Overton]

He just.

[Woody Overton]

Why would you cut it off and kill yourself?

[Cindy Overton]

I didn't. Before you said, on the morning of before you said he cut it off, I thought you were gonna me that they found him dead.

[Woody Overton]

Okay, so continue with the story. He is in the win according to the Kaufman's County Sheriff's office. And they say, hey, you know what? All the cops be looking for him and his name is Trevor McEwen and his MC E capital E U E N. And as they should be. Right. They're all looking for him because he failed to appear in the court. And I said it's currently unknown whether McEwen fled on foot or in a vehicle. Oh, fucking Captain Obvious. I guess nobody had a doorbell ring, camera or whatever up and this kind of. Kind of throwing shade on these motherfuckers. But they need it. The he shouldn't have been out of bond for capital merge horrors. But anyway, they said they don't know if he left on foot or in a vehicle. And there's no description of the clothing he's wearing.

[Cindy Overton]

How they got nothing.

[Woody Overton]

Right. So. Well, listen, Authorities also have not confirmed whether or not he's armed.

[Cindy Overton]

Oh, my God. Where is this?

[Woody Overton]

Kaufman, Texas. So the. Anyway, his ass being the win and. Well, when he was arrested In May of 2023, he posted bond with multiple conditions, according to the court records. But he got arrested again in September 2024 after he posted pictures on social media of Martinez and his uncle and threatening to shoot them before he killed him. And like I told you, he was held on a $2 million bond, but he got out last December. Somebody gave him 250 grand. But, you know, this dude is. Has no intention of showing up for court. Right? He's now cut his shit off. You know, he's already posted $250,000 bond at least once. Maybe he put it up. The whole 2 million. We don't know. Guess how much. You know what? This I'm done with podcast and I'm coming out of retirement. I'm gonna go catch this for the reward. $10,000. That just adds insult to injury me.

[Cindy Overton]

He's only worth 10,000.

[Woody Overton]

$10,000 bombs 2 million.

[Cindy Overton]

That's what I'm saying.

[Woody Overton]

I bet that bondsman that they put up $250,000, they got their agents looking for him because they're on the hook for $2 million.

[Cindy Overton]

Yeah.

[Woody Overton]

And meanwhile, the Martinez family. I mean, I would be so fucking pissed off if I was these people, bro. That is just absolutely just dumb, dumb, dumb, dumb.

[Cindy Overton]

That. That whole story is horrible.

[Woody Overton]

Well, but you don't have to go anymore because I'm gonna go out on a limb and just give you some. I think these followers under all kinds of different categories in this. It's time for family matters, you know, Mother's Day weekend. And nothing. Celeste. Big. Oh, we got Father's Day. That I was thinking it was like the last big holiday thing that, you know, people really do for their loved ones.

[Cindy Overton]

We got my birthday.

[Woody Overton]

I said holidays.

[Cindy Overton]

That should be a holiday.

[Woody Overton]

Yeah. So you're correct. You're correct, Cindy. I'm talking about for everybody else. All right, so in. But, you know, Mother's Day is celebrated on different dates around the world. Did you know that?

[Cindy Overton]

I did.

[Woody Overton]

How did you know?

[Cindy Overton]

Because you see it on a calendar. So can Canadian Mother's Day is a different day.

[Woody Overton]

There's. When have you ever looked at a calendar that says Canadian?

[Cindy Overton]

Tell you on my phone. Like, if you look at your calendar.

[Woody Overton]

Okay, where else what I look at you. First of all. Now I gotta fact.

[Cindy Overton]

The UK has its own Mother's Day and Australia has its own Mother's day. Okay, fact check me ask Siri or whoever you ask.

[Woody Overton]

Don't need to so it is celebrated on different dates around the world but the premise of the holiday is the same. Same goodness, right?

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[Woody Overton]

None of us would be here without our mamas. And that Mother's Day is the day to set aside to celebrate mom's love and sacrifice. Right? My dear departed friend, I'm not gonna say your name out loud because your wife got mad about something I said on the show about you. But he used to always send me a text on every Mother's Day and say happy Mother's Day. All you mother out there, you can say efforts. Yeah, well anyway, rest in peace bro. But so I mean that's a day special day because none of us will be here without our moms and yeah, well yeah, obviously. Oh you know what that I'm gonna leave that one alone too. It's Mother's Day. All right. So the and it's the holiday to you just gotta take care of my mom's. Right. Right. I'm gonna boil you some crawfish and hook you up and you get to relax a little bit. A little bit. Unless my mama's first Mother's Day without my daddy. So she had all of us and 19 grandkids and two great grandkids. The anyway but you give your mama all the gifts in the world or you could just give her a crayon made car. Your mom's gonna love that shit. Most moms and so but you can't ever really pay your mom back for all the shit she's done for you in your entire life. Like when you had the shits or you were sick or helping with your homework or going to your ball games or cooking for you every day or anything. Washing your clothes.

[Cindy Overton]

If your mama didn't do all that.

[Woody Overton]

Well, I'm saying there's some asshole moms out there too, obviously. But I'm talking about for the people who want to celebrate Mother's Day. So the. And. But you just. And mamas never quit being mamas. And like you said. Now, our youngest, I see his young man, you're like, what does your mama call you? I said, her little baby. And I'm 55, right? So that's the way it is. Moms are awesome, most of them, and we love them. There are some asshole moms out there, naturally. But the. Our, you know, moms are awesome. We love them. But not everybody loves their mamas, okay? And so I'm going to tell you, on Mother's Day, I'll tell you about 10 people who didn't love their mama so much, okay? Right. So. And it's not a list that you want to be a part of the. For the. For the moms on this list, you know, that day to celebrate the role in the family and became the day these moms would get murdered by their own children. Right? So let's get to them. And there's a lot of different reasons these moms got murdered. You know, resentment, petty arguments, freak accidents, mental illness, whatever the. But it's all this. All of them share the theme of Mother's Day, right? All right, let's get into it. Cheryl lynch, have her heard of her?

[Cindy Overton]

That name, but.

[Woody Overton]

Oh, Jesus Christ. You know everything today.

[Cindy Overton]

No, I've heard that name before, but I think sorry. Of another lynch. And I have. When I tell you everything, you question me and I'm right.

[Woody Overton]

Okay? So everything I say, continue to say, even if. Even if you don't know it, say it. So, Cheryl Lance, the. What do you know about her?

[Cindy Overton]

Nothing.

[Woody Overton]

You even know how to spell her name?

[Cindy Overton]

L Y, N, C H. First name. Oh, S H E R Y, L. No.

[Woody Overton]

C H E R, Y. Lynch. So on July 13, 2000, Christopher Reed lynch was on army training in France, okay? And Christopher Reed lynch fell from an aircraft two and a half stories high. The fall caused Christopher lynch to spend 28 days in a coma and left him with a traumatic brain injury that impacted nearly every part of his brain, particularly the frontal lobe. So, you know, he gets home and what do moms do? Cheryl lynch, his mama, took over the role of being his caregiver and Besides for being Christopher's caregiver, Cheryl became a champion for veterans with brain injuries. And she started a support group called American Veterans with Brain Injuries and even went before Congress to share the story in 2009 which you know, talked about how difficult was that she and Christopher faced navigating the federal system in order to get proper help. Right veterans and that's something really pisses me off. I believe all veterans should get the proper help. But Cheryl lynch life was taken by the person she worked so hard to care for. Christopher murdered her at 1:30am on May 8, 2016. According to Santa Rosa County Sheriff's office. This is in Florida. And they were called to the home about a person beating a dog. And when the cops arrived they heard yelling and the sounds of someone in distress. Before they could find where the screams are coming from, 38 year old Christopher walked up, he's covered in blood and he's carrying an iron rod with a hook on the end. He then became violent. He punched one of the officers in the head and he started hitting patrol car with, with the metal ride. And they had to tase him several times in order to get him in the handcuffs and leg irons. Now once then they were able to process scene they found his mother Cheryl lying on the porch and she had multiple lacerations on her face. Her eyes were swollen shut and she was unable to speak. So eventually she was able to tell one deputies that Christopher had hit her. Maybe she couldn't remember all the details and she was taking the hospital and she'd be dead. Right. So Chris was taken into custody and charged with first degree murder, second degree battery, a whole bunch of shit resistant officer and everything else. And several medical professionals later testified in his trial that he was acutely psychotic in the midst of a manic episode and not oriented at the time of her death. But on April 24, 2018 Christopher was found not guilty. A reason of insanity. But he's locked in the state mental hospital.

[Cindy Overton]

Yeah.

[Woody Overton]

All right. Sarah Hankerson, what you know about her?

[Cindy Overton]

Nothing.

[Woody Overton]

Whoa. She's 72 year old. Sarah Hagerson went by her son's home. He's 42 year old Christopher Edwards. This is in Rocky Mountain, North Carolina. And she went there every day to help him take care of his pit bull. Well, one day in May 8th of 2022, the dog attacked Edwards inside the home. Everett's grabbed his gun, fired a shot and all while still fighting with his dog. He said his own dog, it didn't scare the pit bull or make him stop. But the round accidentally struck Hankerson, his mama. Right. And when the first responders arrived at home, they performed life saving measures. But she be ain't that crazy. So what do you know about Molly Gladney?

[Cindy Overton]

Nothing.

[Woody Overton]

Well, given it 35 year old Antonio Gladney's felonious criminal history, it's understandable that he'd become estranged from his mom, 66 year old Molly Gladney. Unfortunately, the legal systems that's supposed to protect Molly failed in. Antonio was released early for his prior convictions. Right. Behaving in jail and that calls him to commit murder. On Mother's Day of his mama. On May 14, 2017, Antonio used flowers in a Mother's Day car to convince his mom to let him in her Shannon, Mississippi home. She did it Mother's Day, Right. Well, then they got in a fight and Antonio hit Molly in the head with a garden tool. We were just talking about garden. It's that time of the year. But the argument didn't stop there. Antonio continued to beat the shit out of his mom, beating her in the head and face. And this whole fight started inside the house, but it made its way to the carport and then Antonio ran like a little bitch. The cops got called to the area on an alarm call. And they're patrolling through and they see Molly's body in a car park. And she had multiple traumatic injuries to her head, face and hands. And she be dead. Antonio, dumbass that he is, came back later and he talked to the cops and he got arrested, charged with murder and a whole bunch of other charges. In four days after the killing, Antonio says, you know what? Literally in quotations, I'm ready to man up and admit it to killing his mom. But he said I was under the influence, right? I don't know. It doesn't matter. Right. So however, as Antonio waited for his mom's trial, he pulled a shank prison term homemade knife on a Lee county detention officers as they performed a sales search. And that was on June 29, 2019. And he, he lunged at the officers with the knife, threatened to stab them. And he caught more charges. Right. But rather going to trial, Antonio pled guilty to murder and one count aggravated assault. And he's sentenced to life in prison on the murder charge, plus an extra 25 years for trying to kill the popo.

[Cindy Overton]

Well, good for him, right?

[Woody Overton]

I got to give you one more. Just because I thought there was 10. They are. I'll do the rest of them next year. These aren't, these aren't fresh and they ain't going away, but I can pretty much guarantee nobody in the world's ever heard of them. So Kathy Mac E TRON MC E A C H E R M and on Mother's Day of 2011. Yeah, supposed to be that joyous happy holiday. Well, another dispute broke out. This one stemmed over the use of social Media. And on May 8, 2011, 17 year old Joshua David McCarren of Greenville, South Carolina got in his fight with his mama, Ms. Kathy, who was 59 years old. Because Ms. Kathy didn't like Joshua's use of YouTube. During the fight, Joshua shot Kathy in the face. Right. Nothing says love to your mama like a bullet to the face. Josh's older brother, 20, 21 year old Daniel heard the shots and ran in the room. Guess what? Josh was in a little brother love. He shot him three times in the chest. So around 9:30pm, Joshua call 911 and he tells the dispatcher, 91 1, how may I help you? He said, I shot my mama and my brother. So deputies arrive and they find Kathy still alive, suffering from multiple gunshot wounds. But they try to help her out to the hospital and ship the shit and make it she'd be dead, right? And the brother was taken to the local hospital, critical edition. But he's fine. You pretty bad. He gets shot three times in the chest and you survive. So keeping in what the theme with the earlier deal we were talking about with the psychosis or whatever, a clinical psychiatrist later testified on Josh's behalf and said that he has autism, has been diagnosed with Asperger's syndrome, which is formal autism. And on September 5, 2012, Joshua pled guilty but mentally ill to voluntarily manslaughter, attempted murder, possession a handgun during a violent crime. And he got 27 years downtown for killing his mama on Mother's Day.

[Cindy Overton]

That's not enough.

[Woody Overton]

And I'm Woody Overton.

[Cindy Overton]

I'm Cindy Overton.

[Woody Overton]

We certainly hope you all have a better Mother's Day than those ladies did. Treat if your mama, if you're still enough blessed enough to have your mom or your grandmother or your great grandmother or whatever, give them all the loves and hug that you can. This morning, sin came up about my sister. Flew in from Dallas to stay with my mom tonight and I stayed with her last night. And we were leaving, I kept giving my mama kisses, kisses, kisses, kisses on the cheek. And she said, stop. She said, you're like the dog, you kiss me too much. But you gotta love her. I mean, and you know, love your mama if you can. If you can't we get that too. But to all you moms out there, the good ones, keep doing what you do. Raise those babies. Raises them even when I go, Let me tell them about this song my mama sent. I sent it to you last night too. My mama sent it to me and I'd never heard it before. The and I don't care who you believe in or whatever, not being religious and what have you. My mama sent me a song about Luke Bryant, called Jesus about my kids and said I used to talk no.

[Cindy Overton]

I used to talk to my kids about Jesus. Now I talk to Jesus about my kids. He sang that on that's what I heard.

[Woody Overton]

But yeah, you and I haven't watched that one yet. It's been reserved. Unless you watched it without me. All right, so it's Mother's Day. I'll give you a pass if you did. But anyway, to all you to me, all you mamas out there, happy, happy, happy Mother's Day. And all you children's and husbands and stuff make the best that they can. And where you Host of True Crime time for Thursday, May 8 and Love and appreciate each and every one of you. Holler at you later. Peace.

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