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True Crime Time For November 20, 2025 | Domestic Violence, Child Abuse, and Infanticide
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Cindy Overton
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Woody
Foreign.
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Cindy Overton
And welcome to True Crime time for Thursday, November 20, 2025 and I am Cindy Overton. Obviously Woody is not with me in the studio today. I'm so sorry that we are just going back and forth lately and it's not both of us together. For each episode we are juggling many different things and doing the best that we can, of course, keeping our obligations fulfilled and getting episodes out to you daily. So with that being said, I'm going to go ahead and start today's episode. If you follow us in the app, you might have seen that I created a post, a nostalgic post, at least for me, because it's one of the things that I enjoyed doing when I was a young girl and that is Mad Libs. And you would get like a book and your friend would ask you questions like I need a noun, give me a verb, tell me a certain place, name of funny object, those types, somebody's name. And then after they went through and asked you those questions of listing those items they had filled in the blanks of a story and the story was funny. So I posted a list of things in the app and I think people probably think I'm crazy and so people liked it, but no one made their own list. So I went ahead and did it and filled in the blanks as a example to show someone to come behind me to do so. I'm going to go ahead and read what my story ended up being and then I'm going to post a Thanksgiving giving crime story in the app and see if anyone wants to join in on the fun at that time. And we will read it sometime next week before Thanksgiving or maybe on the Thanksgiving Day episode. I'm not quite sure how we'll do it, but this is the case of the Missing Woody. So my my words were so I had 30 I had 36 words that I needed to fill in the blanks on. So it was started with an adjective and then a town and then a noun and the type of building a verb ending in ing a silly object a body part a ridiculous phrase a plural noun a large object a place an adjective a random hobby an animal a time of day a sound effect a room in a house a food item a plural clothing item a kind of plant funny place name vehicle a measurement a speed measurement a verb object a store a plural noun an adjective a noun a crime crime crime adjective A number an activity an object and so from those things the story was created so the Case of the Missing Woody On a quiet, long morning in Clinton, deputies were called to investigate a missing woody Woody that had mysteriously vanished from the front porch of a local sheriff's office. According to witnesses, the suspect was last seen golfing down the street while holding a back scratcher in their left arm and shouting cattywampus. Deputies followed a trail of earrings that led behind an elephant gun near the edge of Vernon Parish. When questioned, the neighbor, described as short and unusually obsessed with making chips in a bottle, claimed they saw a deer running off with the missing woody and sometimes around noon, they also reporting hearing a strange gong coming from the bathroom. Shortly before everything went down, the crime scene technicians recovered a single pasta smeared on the ground, a pair of socks tangled in poinsettias, and a suspicious note that read don't let me catch you down on boute, Louisiana. Deputies then spotted a suspect driving a Rolls Royce at a high rate of 10 mph swerving wildly while trying to jump a pillow out of the window. The chase ended when the suspect crashed into Saks Fifth Avenue and attempted to hide behind a stack of bullets. When taken into custody, the suspect insisted, I only did it because of the. I only did it because of the dark. Leah told me to. They were charged with murder, Larson and one count of theft. For good measure, the judge known around town for being shiny sentenced the suspect to 55 years of baking and banned them from ever owning another sewing machine again. And that, lifers, is why you should always lock up your Tommy Cox. You never know what kind of really long trouble is lurking down on Ding Dong, Texas. So I know that I like to lighten it up when Woody's not around. Sometimes he's free game, sometimes he's free. Like, sometimes he likes to have fun and, and do these silly things with me. But most of the time he likes to give you what you came here for, which is true crime news. So that is exactly what I'm going to do right now. And I'm starting off in North Carolina. And in Durham, North Carolina. What began as a quiet private relationship turned into a horrifying true crime case that devastated a family and shocked an entire community. On the morning of September 10th, police were called to the apartment of 34 year old nurse Ariel Lowe after an unusual series of 911 calls came in. These calls didn't come in from neighbors, but they came in from Christopher Whitley's own friends. Now, Whitley, who was 31, had been dating Ariel for about three months after meeting her on a dating app, and her family said she was private about the relationship, but they suspected there was more going on beneath the surface. According to Police, sometime around 5:30am Ariel was strangled to death inside her home. Hours later, Whitley began calling and FaceTiming his friends, showing them Ariel's body as proof that he had killed her. One terrified friend, thank goodness, immediately called 911 at 10:22am and he told the dispatcher, my friend just called me. He murdered his girlfriend. She's laying on the floor. The friend gave dispatchers Whitley's name and phone number, and investigators used that information to contact AT&T. And AT&T was able to ping his location and the phone was inside our Ariel's apartment. Police arrived around 12:30pm But Whitley had already barricaded himself inside the apartment with a gun and a standoff ensued. The standoff lasted until Whitley's family members contacted him by phone and convinced him to surrender. Once officers got inside, they found Ariel's dead body on the floor. Paramedics officially pronounced her deceased at 2:30pm the medical examiner later confirmed that she had been strangled several hours earlier, which matched the timeline described by Whitley's friends. As details became public, more disturbing accounts came forward. Several women took to social media to say they had also met Whitley on dating apps in the past and had experienced controlling and abusive behavior. Court records show Whitley had a criminal history, including a 2019 conviction for assault causing bodily injury to a family member. He served a suspended sentence and probation. Ariel's family said that she had just landed her dream job in nurse anesthesiology at Duke University Hospital, working in a field she had dedicated many years of study to. Her stepmother named Teresa Lowell said she wanted to be a mom. She wanted to find a good guy and have kids, and all of this was taken from her. Her mother and father described the loss as a unique kind of pain, saying their daughter was brilliant, kind and always caring for others, either at work, at church or in her personal life. Christopher Whitley has been charged with first degree murder. He is being held without bail while police continue gathering evidence. And according to investigators, multiple hours passed between Ariel's death and Whitley's surrender, hours during which he called friends, showing them what he had done, ultimately obviously leading to his arrest. And Ariel's family is not only grieving, but calling for greater protections on dating apps, saying companies should do more to screen for violent offenders. It's very, very sad. I know that there's several places that you can go now. It's got to be scary out there in this world of dating these days. And I know that there's several places, I think one, one app is called T and you can go in and people post their interactions when they have bad dates or see red flags and it's, you know, they warn other girls about, you know, the men that they're, that they had dated or they had a, you know, a connection to somehow and luckily got away safely. And then there's like Facebook pages dedicated to this type of thing and it's, it's very unfortunate but you know, they're there for a reason and obviously this is a very good example of, of that reason. In Tampa bay, Florida on November 2, which was a Sunday. That afternoon, Hillsborough County Sheriff's Office responded to an emergency call that a 27 year old man was attacking his younger brother. The caller told dispatchers that the suspect, Mario Camacho, was armed with a knife and actively choking his 7 year old sibling. This man's 27 when deputies arrived at the home just after 2:04pm Camacho had barricaded himself in a back bedroom with his seven year old brother. Body camera footage released by the sheriff's office shows deputies outside the door urgently commanding Camacho to let the boy go. And from inside, the child could be heard screaming for help, even begging deputies to break down the door. Finally, deputies forced the door open and they found Camacho still holding the knife and refusing to release the child. The scene was even more alarming. Camacho was wearing a motorcycle helmet and two tactical vests equipped with ballistic plates. Despite repeated commands to drop the weapon, Camacho continued to restrain the child with the knife in hand. And one of the deputies, fearing for the boy's life, fired their service weapon and that shot struck Camacho, allowing deputies to rush in and rescue the seven year old. Camacho was then transported to a nearby hospital where he later died from his injuries. The sheriff's office confirmed that the deputy who discharged their weapon had been placed on paid administrative leave pending the outcome of the investigation, which of course is standard procedure in officers involved shootings. Authorities also reminded the public that anyone experiencing domestic violence or in need of crisis services to please contact the crisis center of Tampa bay by calling 21 1, which is staffed around the clock. What could a 7 year old do to a 27 year old man that would make him hold him at knife point? Oh my gosh. Okay, well.
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Woody
It'S time for family matters.
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Cindy Overton
On January 5th of 2021, there was a teenage girl who secretly gave birth to a baby girl named Harper inside a home in Albany, Wisconsin. She was only 15 years old at the time. And her boyfriend, Logan Crockenberg Anderson, it's hyphenated. Kruckenberg Anderson is his last name, was 16 at the time, and he was present at the birth of his his baby. According to investigators, the young mother initially believed Logan was going to take the newborn to be adopted by someone he said he knew. She later told police she thought Harper was going to, quote, unquote, to a safe place. She did not know that Logan had a different plan. So Logan's plan was. Or what he did was he took the newborn, only hours old, into a remote wooded area in Greene County. He laid her on the snow and attempted to cover her with a backpack and cloth. Investigators say the baby was heard crying as Logan walked away. When he heard her crying, Logan returned with a gun. Prosecutors are saying this Logan has told them he later admitted that he shot Harper twice in the head, telling investigators he was trying to, quote, unquote, make her go away. The newborn's discovery launched an immediate homicide investigation two days after Harper was reported missing. Police found her tiny body buried beneath snow with gunshot wounds to the head, exactly as Logan described. Logan initially lied to investigators, claiming he had handed the baby to the third party just like he had told the teenage girl he was going to do, but investigators quickly determined that did not happen. When confronted with this, Logan changed his story and ultimately admitting to killing his child. Authorities emphasized that there's no evidence the baby's mother was involved in or aware of the murder, so she has not been charged with any crime and every credible report clarifies this point. Her only role was giving birth. She believed Harper would be adopted, not killed. So remember, this happened in 2021. So in the years that have followed, the case moved through Wisconsin's courts and on November 5th of this year, Logan Kruckenberg Anderson is now 21 years old and he was convicted of first degree intentional homicide with hiding a corpse and after an 11 day trial and just over two hours of jury deliberation Hey y'.
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Woody
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Cindy Overton
The prosecutors described the murder as planned, deliberate and merciless, stressing the vulnerability of the newborn and the brutality of the actual. Logan is scheduled for sentencing on March 16th of 2026, where he faces life in prison. And investigators are describing this as one of the most disturbing infant side cases in Wisconsin history. And seasoned investigators are just truly affected by the calculated nature of the killing and sheer helplessness of this victim. And as we know, Wisconsin does not have the death penalty.
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Woody
It's time for family matters.
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Cindy Overton
We're going to February 6th of 2022 in San Antonio, Texas. And that afternoon, paramedics were called to a home on the city's northwest side. Inside the home, they found 12 year old Danilo Coles unresponsive. His father, 35 year old Derek Coles, told 911 that his son had collapsed while exercising. But that story didn't really make a lot of sense. When emergency workers lifted Donello onto the stretcher, they saw bruises deep, old and new, and patches of his skin were missing. At the hospitals, doctors found extensive trauma across the boy's body. Cuts, burns, whip marks and bruises in various stages of healing. And within hours, Danilo was pronounced dead. The medical examiner determined Danilo had died from rhabdomyolysis, which is a condition in which muscle tissue breaks down so severely that the body floods with toxins, shutting down the organs. The cause wasn't an accident or a sudden illness. It was results of prolonged, brutal physical abuse and forced exertion. According to testimony and evidence presented at trial, Derek Coles had been subjecting his son to two disciplinary workouts as punishment for months. These sessions included push ups, planks, jumping jacks, carrying boxes and other military style exercises for hours at a time. If Danilo slowed down or cried, Coles beat him with a belt or electrical cord. Witnesses said the boy was often left covered in bruises and so exhausted he could be barely stand. So on the day that we started this with February 6th of 2022, Kohl's and his wife, Capri Cheatham, punished Danilo for what they described as not listening. The boy was forced to work out for hours, but then so nice they allowed him to shower. But then after he showered, the beatings resumed. When Donella collapsed and began vomiting, Cheatham later told police that Coles ordered her not to call for help. They waited roughly 45 minutes before finally calling 911 and by that time his heart had stopped. Detectives from the San Antonio Police Child Abuse Unit quickly determined that this wasn't a case of simple neglect. The couple's home was littered with belts, extension cords and cleaning supplies used to wipe away blood. Police also learned that Danilo had recently moved from Chicago, where he had been in the custody of Child Protective Services. He had only been living with his father and stepmother for less than a year when he died. When questioned, Derek Coles first claimed Danalo had been injured by falling off of a treadmill. But later he admitted to striking him repeatedly and insisted that discipline was not abuse. So during the trial, finally it went to trial. After more than two years of delays caused by evidence hearings and pre trial motions and all of that stuff that happens, Derrick Cole's case finally went before a Bexar county jury in August of 2025. Prosecutors presented photographs, autopsy images and medical testimony describing what one doctor called torture, not punishment. They argued that Coles intentionally inflicted pain on his son, forcing him to exercise to the point of organ failure and then ignoring his desperate condition. Cole's defense team argued that he hadn't meant to kill his son, that his actions were the result of misguided discipline. But the jury was unmoved. On August 14th of 2025, Derrick Cole was found guilty on five counts. Four counts for injury to a child causing serious bodily injury and one for recklessly causing injury to a child. Two months later, Judge Rosie Alvarado sentenced him to 45 years in prison. In her ruling, she told him that what he called discipline was deliberate cruelty and that Danilo never had a chance to escape. We might ask about the stepmother's role. Cole's wife, Capri Cheatham, also faces criminal charges. Prosecutors alleged she was present during many of the beatings and failed to intervene or seek help. Her trial is scheduled to begin in early 2026. Prosecutors described Danilo's final days as unimaginable suffering. The boy's teachers had previously reported seeing bruises on him, but Coles. Once these things were reported, Coles took the boy out of school. Now the case has reignited public outrage in Texas over gaps in child protective systems and particularly how a child with a history of foster placements could be returned to a parent with prior complaints of excessive discipline. For the jurors who sat through the graphic testimony, one fact was clear. What happened inside that home wasn't punishment. It was torture. I can't. I can't even imagine.
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Woody
It's time for worldwide crime.
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Cindy Overton
I've got one that I wish Woody was here for. We're going to Columbia. And divers in Columbia discovered a big haul of cocaine underneath a ship that was preparing to set sail for Europe and the Navy. The Columbia's Navy announced this on Tuesday. Navy crew members at the port on the Pacific coast conducted an underwater inspection of the Europe bound merchant vessel, successfully seizing more than 450 pounds of suspected cocaine. During the underwater investigation, divers from the Buenaventura Coast Guard station found seven suspicious bags that were sealed and contained the narcotics. Officials released photos of the seizure showing images of the divers retrieving the drugs as well as dozens of packages laid on the ground. The seizure came just a few days after the Navy announced it had confiscated more than 7 tons of drugs from two speedboats and a semi submersible vessel known as a narco sub. And this was all in the Pacific Ocean. Officials released images and video of the operation show showing several packages on board a boat and the suspect surrendering and being pulled from the water. All right, here's one that I wish Woody was here for. A death row inmate in Florida who was convicted of fatally shooting a US Airman and his girlfriend and later confessed two, three other killings and is now scheduled to die by lethal injection next month in Florida. Under the terms of the death warrant Sounded Tuesday by Gov. Ron DeSantis, DeSantis has authorized a record number of executions this year. Sixteen of the 43 executions that have taken place so far in the United States happened in Florida alone. Florida is set to execute Frank Athen Walls, who's 58 years old, on Dec. 18 at Florida State Prison. According to the death warrant, walls is the 19th person set for execution in Florida in 2025, with two other inmates scheduled to be put to death before the end of the year. The next execution of inmate Richard Barry Randolph is scheduled for Thursday with while Another convicted killer, Mark Allen Geralds, is set to die Dec. 9. Before this week, the state's last execution happened Nov. 13, when inmate Brian Frederick Jennings was put to death by lethal injection. Jennings had been convicted of raping and killing his neighbor in 2025. DeSantis has overseen more executions in a single year than any other Florida governor since the death penalty was reinstated in 1976. The previous record was set in 2014 with eight executions. Walls was convicted of two counts of murder, two counts of kidnapping, burglary and theft and sentenced to death in 1988. The Florida Supreme Court later reversed that conviction and ordered a new trial where Walls was again convicted and sentenced to death in 1992. According to court records, Walls broke into the Florida Panhandle mobile home of Elgin Air Force Base Airman Edward Alger and his girlfriend Ann Peterson in July 1987. Walls tied the couple up, but Alger managed to break free and attack Walls. Walls cut Alger's throat and then shot him in the head when the airmen continued to fight. Walls then went to attack Peterson and shot her as she struggled. Walls was arrested the day after the bodies were found when his roommate tipped off police about Walls odd behavior and during a search of his home, investigators reported finding items from the crime scene and Walls later admitted to the killings. After his conviction, DNA evidence linked walls to the May 1987 rape and murder of Audrey Gidgee, and Walls pleaded no contest, avoiding another trial and possible death sentence. Walls also admitted responsibility for the killings of Tommy Lou Whidden in March of 1985 and Cynthia Sue Condra in September of 1986 as part of a deal with prosecutors. Attorneys for Walls are expected to file appeals to the Florida supreme court and the U.S. supreme Court, blah blah blah. Florida is among 11 states across the U.S. where executions have happened since the start of 2025, but it leads the way in terms of the number of procedures carried out by a significant margin. So after Florida, Alabama, Texas and South Carolina have carried out the second highest shares of executions this year, each having five DeSantis flurry of death warrants substantially contributed to the fact that nationwide this is the busiest year of the death penalty in the country in more than a decade. I mean he goodness, I know Woody would have a lot to say about that. I'm just going to report we're going to go to Minnesota and a 39 year old White Bear Lake, Minnesota man has been sentenced to second degree murder in the 2024 death of his three month old son. Son, a Ramsey County Judge handed down a sentence of 10 years and eight months, with credit for 490 days served to the man. At least two thirds of that sentence will be spent in prison, and he pleaded guilty to the charge in October. According to the criminal complaint, the boy had been injured on January 31, 2024, and died a month later. In June of that year, the Hennepin County Medical Examiner's office released an autopsy report, and the autopsy report listed the baby's cause of death, and he had bilateral subdermal hemorrhages. Child abuse specialists said the infant's injuries were highly consistent with abusive head trauma. Medical providers told investigators that his medical issues did not occur naturally and were likely to result from outside force or trauma. According to court documents, the father told the physician treating his son at the hospital that he might have dropped him or done something to this child and that he had not been in his right state of mind the night before. The baby's mother told police she had been concerned about her son's father and she was concerned that he was drinking too much. The father admitted to investigators that he drank more than he typically did the morning his son was injured, according to charges. He added that he had also smoked marijuana, and the mother told investigators she confronted the father about their son's injuries, and he admitted he may have done something to their son, but he didn't remember because he had been drinking. The man later expressed worry to police that he may have dropped his son or sat on his son or had anxiety that he may have harmed him or because he wasn't quite sure he had a memory lapse. Oh, my gosh. That. That is that. I think I'm going to end it on that. And I hope Woody is able to be back with me tomorrow. And thank y' all for listening. And we appreciate you, of course. We. We just continue to ask for. For your tips. No tip is too small. And we pray for justice for Haley. We hope that Ms. Barbara hears from the attorney, the district attorney soon, and, of course, justice. We want justice for Bradley and justice for AO and justice for Barbara Blunt and justice for every single body. And we hope that all of you stay safe. And thank you again for listening. Thank you so much to our sponsors, getting some really, really cool contacts from different people that are looking to sponsor us. If you are a local, a small business that would like to inquire about sponsoring with us, we would love to hear from you. We love to support local. I say local, but what I mean by that is small businesses. And we just thank you. And thank you for listening. Later.
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Woody
Foreign.
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Ali Jackson
If you're a podcast host, listen up. This one's for you. My name is Ali Jackson. I'm the host of Finding Mr. Height, a dating and relationship podcast that I've been doing for four years now, sharing my positive and practical approach to dating that's built on my own life experience. And I wanted to share another experience that I've had. My secret behind monetizing my show. It's called Red Circle, and I was just telling my colleague about how much I love their platform. Which with Red Circle, not only am I getting a seamless hosting experience, but I also love the support I receive in ad sales. It's not just typical ad sales either. It's targeted opportunities based on my show and my life. And the platform is super simple. You just set your preferences and Red Circle matches you with sponsors that align with your show. You can vet every opportunity and their platform gives you great analytics. More recently, too, my Red Circle team has brought me opportunities outside of my podcast on social media to really augment the podcast partnerships. Bring them full circle. I just can't recommend them enough.
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Cindy Overton
It's.
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Ali Jackson
If you want to give it a try, go to redcircle.com to get your free trial. That's redcircle.com for a free trial.