True Crime Time For November 24, 2025 | Cadaver Dogs, Cold Cases, and Holiday Reflections

Summary

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Real Life Real Crime: "True Crime Time For November 24, 2025 | Cadaver Dogs, Cold Cases, and Holiday Reflections"

Hosts: Woody Overton & Cindy Overton
Episode Date: November 24, 2025

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Overview

In this Thanksgiving-week episode, Woody and Cindy Overton present a gripping, at times darkly humorous dive into recent and notable true crime stories, combining chilling child neglect, violent murders, law enforcement misconduct, and some offbeat commentary on human behavior. Woven through their conversation are reflections on the holidays, family, and continued advocacy for victims and cold cases.

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Key Segments and Discussion Points

1. Holiday Reflections, Family, and Traditions

• [02:59] Hosts share family gatherings, plenty of food, and teaching firearm safety to their nieces—emphasizing the importance of cherishing loved ones, particularly during the holidays.
• Woody: "Enjoy your people. Right? Hashtag just for bradley. Hashtag just for AO as always, continue to call on your tips." ([03:34])

2. Cadaver Dogs and Cold Cases

• [03:34] Woody responds to listener questions about cadaver dogs, clarifying differences between scent, blood, and cadaver dogs and their vital roles in investigations.
• Woody: "Cadaver dogs are different than blood dogs or...scent dogs, okay?...They have to train...with police organizations." ([03:34])
• Appeals for tips related to ongoing cold cases—especially the cases of Barbara Blunt and Haley.

3. Case Spotlight: Massachusetts Murder

• [06:03] Cindy details the life imprisonment of Bruce Mabin for the brutal 2021 stabbing of his ex-girlfriend, Cheryl Pringle.
  • Notable Quotes:
    • “You will get what you deserve because God don't like ugly. You're just scum. I hope you rot in hell for what you did.” – Pearl Garner, victim’s mother ([07:36])
    • Pringle’s son describes her as “a strong, independent woman and a dream chaser.” ([08:08])

4. Operation Creep: Minnesota Sex Sting

• [09:01] Discussion of a major sting called "Operation Creep” in Bloomington, MN, targeting child sexual predators.
  • 16 men arrested, including an ICE auditor and a pollution agency staffer, with one suspect bringing guns and drugs.
  • Memorable Moment: The police chief used Radiohead’s song “Creep” as a tongue-in-cheek “theme.” ([09:48])
  • Woody: "So y'all Operation Creep. And applause to that chief...got to love it. One guy works for ICE and boys. I'm ICE Boys. Like it's okay." ([11:11])
• Hosts reflect: Such crimes "never stop," but stings instill some fear.

5. Effed Up Professionals: Child Abuse by Teacher

• [12:47] Cindy covers the arrest of former Alabama Teacher of the Year, Randy Nicole Jackson Staples, after viral video showed her beating her 12-year-old son with a belt.
  • The video, posted by her eldest son, exposed a history of abuse.
  • Quote: “It shows Staples beating the young boy...as she yells at him while he cries before she ultimately slams him to the floor by his hair.” ([13:33])
• Woody: "Definitely effed up Professional...so many of those stories." ([15:23])

6. Family Matters: Severe Child Neglect in Wisconsin

• [21:29] A horrifying account of a 14-year-old girl, weighing only 35 pounds, rescued from an abusive and neglectful household.
  • Four adults, including her biological father, are facing over 80 years in prison each.
  • Text messages among the suspects revealed disdain and intent to harm the victim.
  • Quote: “I just want to karate kick her dumb head.” – Savannah LaFever, step-sister ([24:15])
  • Woody’s Outrage: "Those motherfuckers ain't never missed a meal in their life. And plus, they ate all of mine and yours and that baby's..." ([27:00])

7. Effed Up Professionals: Law Enforcement & Corrections Misconduct

• NYPD School Safety Agent Arrested ([29:12])
  • Cindy recounts the case of a New York school safety agent arrested for groping a 16-year-old during a photo op.
  • Woody: "That dude...should never wear the badge, period." ([31:12])
• Louisiana Correctional Officer Caught with Inmate ([32:02])
  • Female officer caught on video kissing an inmate, later found to have firearms in her vehicle.
  • Woody explains that prison contraband is “90%” from staff, motivated by low salaries and financial temptation.
  • Woody: "...money is the motivating factor. There is no other reason." ([36:08])

8. Worldwide Crime: The “Serial Cheater” of London

• [37:37] A lighter, if outrageous story: a UK woman, Persia Lawson, now a self-proclaimed relationship expert, admits to having infected "half of London" with chlamydia due to rampant cheating and sex addiction.
  • Persia's Quote: "I had a cheating addiction and quite frankly was a home wrecker...I have no, I mean, idea how many people I've slept with. It's definitely in the hundreds." ([44:52])
  • After intervention and therapy, Persia claims to be in recovery and uses her experience to help others.

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Notable Quotes & Moments

• On Child Protection & Outrage:
  • Woody: “If I could hold a gun to the DA’s head and make them do it, I wish I could.” ([05:23], reflecting frustration with inaction on murder charges)
• On Systemic Failures:
  • Cindy: "That's disgusting...getting people in positions of power, too." ([12:27])
• On Humor Through Dark Content:
  • Woody: “It's like getting laid in a whorehouse with a gold brick tied around your neck.” ([42:35], on Sex Addicts Anonymous)
  • Woody: “If you were in London Anytime around 2010, forget checked. Burned. Boom, boom.” ([49:01], joking about the STD outbreak)
• On Empathy During the Holidays:
  • Woody: “All the murder victims and their family members...prayers for you. Holidays are always the hardest.” ([49:50])
  • Cindy: “Prayers for those that are hurting right now because the holiday season is...hard on those that don't have close people...lost loved ones." ([50:06])

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Episode Timestamps

• 02:48 – Start of episode/conversation
• 03:34 – Cadaver dogs/cold case updates
• 06:03 – Massachusetts murder conviction
• 09:01 – "Operation Creep" sting in Minnesota
• 12:47 – Teacher arrested for child abuse
• 21:29 – Wisconsin child abuse case
• 29:12 – NYPD agent charged with groping student
• 32:02 – Louisiana corrections officer arrested
• 37:37 – Worldwide crime: London’s “serial cheater”
• 49:50 – Reflections and prayers for victims and families

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Tone and Delivery

Woody’s conversational style blends hard-won law enforcement experience, deep empathy for victims and families, and a no-nonsense, unfiltered approach—punctuated by dark humor. Cindy offers emotional intelligence, supportive commentary, and occasionally challenges or amplifies Woody’s takes. The episode consistently oscillates between sobering and sardonic.

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Final Thoughts

The hosts reflect on gratitude and hardship during the holidays, extend prayers to all victims and their families, and encourage listeners to continue advocacy and community involvement. They end with the promise of upcoming guests and more true crime stories.

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This summary provides the key takeaways, context, and most impactful moments from the episode, capturing both its gravity and uniquely candid tone, so even those who didn’t listen will walk away informed and engaged.

Transcript

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[Woody Overton]

Hello, everybody, and welcome to this episode of true crime time for Monday, November 24, 2025. And I'm Woody overton.

[Cindy Overton]

I'm Cindy overton.

[Woody Overton]

Thanksgiving week, got the family. We got the peeps already here. Came in this weekend and a bunch of smoked turkey gumbo and lasagnas and what? Sausage balls and anything you can think of.

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[Woody Overton]

Anything you think of. Plenty of food going down. Everybody's out on the stands, hon. I got to teach my nieces how to shoot firearms and firearm safety this weekend. That was pretty cool continuing that tradition, right?

[Cindy Overton]

Yes, absolutely.

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[Woody Overton]

We know this beginning of the holiday week and, you know, safe travels to everybody and have a great time. Enjoy your people. Right? Hashtag just for bradley. Hashtag just for AO as always, continue to call on your tips. 313rlrctip.y'.all. I talk about cadaver dogs. The. The. I'm gonna. So many people have responded. Cadaver dogs are different than blood dogs or. Or scent dogs, okay? The. When the human body dies, it automatically. When your heart stops beating, it automatically produces this chemical scent that you're dead when you. You start to decompose as soon as your blood stops swelling. And these dogs are trained in that. And it's also very specific. I mean, you can't just find dead human flesh to train your dogs with, right? They have to train. Most of them have to train with police organizations and everything else, and they have certain rules they have to follow. But if you know someone who has cadaver dog, please continue to call on your tips. We appreciate that for obvious reasons. I'm asking, does anyone know that? Right? But we'll get into that on another date. Hashtag just for Ms. Barbara Blunt and calling you tips. Hashtag, just for haley. The kyle county d. A. Can go pound sand as far as I'm concerned at this point. This is just disrespectful. Y' all blow them up. We'll post all their numbers, et cetera. And she's saying it's double jeopardy. They can't try them again. That's bullshit. Try him for murder. They tried him from. They tried him and convicted him from moving and concealing the body and tearing up in the police room. The murder charge is still there. I can't hold a gun to the da's head and make them do it. Wish I could. Haley got, you know, worldwide coverage and. And she's a beautiful angel and I hate it for Ms. Barbara and. And them, but. And Stella and them. The. I don't know what else to date. So, yeah, that is what it is. But everybody knows about it now anyway, so let's get down to some true crime time for this Monday before Thanksgiving.

[Cindy Overton]

Alrighty, you go. I'm going to start off in Massachusetts. And there was a man in Massachusetts who has been sentenced to life in prison without parole for the 2021 murder of his ex girlfriend. So he's 48 years old. His name is Bruce Mabin, and he was convicted of first degree murder earlier this month after stabbing his ex girlfriend Cheryl Pringle 127 times. So the verdict and subsequent sentence will ensure that the defendant will be held accountable for his senseless and atrocious conduct. And this is a quote from Essex County District Attorney Paul F. Tucker. He goes on to say, our hope is that the family and friends of Cheryl Pringle can find some comfort in that, in this outcome. Pringle texted a friend. This is some backstory. Pringle texted a friend before her murder that she was done with that guy Mabin. After that, he illegally entered her home and threatened her with a knife. Pringle was reported missing on 12-9-19th of 2021 by family and friends who stated her last known whereabouts were with Mabin on a date and her body was discovered two days later. Her family chose to have a closed casket funeral due to the violent nature of her death. During the trial, Maven's defense team argued that the prosecution didn't prove Maven knew that Pringle would end their relations or that he would have reacted violently if he had known, which is inconsequential. He murdered her whether they were whatever. But sentencing. Pringle's mother, Pearl Garner, called Maben scum. And she goes on to say, you don't deserve to be walking here. She said in her victim impact statement, you will get what you deserve because God don't like ugly. You're just scum. I hope you rot in hell for what you did. And Pringle's son, Jahami Laron, remembered his mother as a strong, independent woman and a dream chaser. And thank goodness he's sentenced.

[Woody Overton]

And yeah, well, there you have it. And hits just keep on coming. It's time for effort of professionals. What is the oldest profession in the world?

[Cindy Overton]

Prostitution.

[Woody Overton]

All right, well, this isn't exactly prostitution, but the locally sheriff Jason R has been doing with Chris Hansen. They and they keep doing episodes because these idiots keep coming from all over Livingston to try to have sex with these kids. Well, this one happened in Minnesota. Now you would think you could go into Minneapolis, whatever. How are you say it? Or one of the big cities, whatever. But you don't have to. And like they prove it in Livingston Paris. It'll come from anywhere to anywhere but the. Let me tell you what happened in Bloomington, Minnesota. I'm gonna try to play this for y' all so you see if it works.

[News Reporter]

The chief called it oper Operation Creep. And he was ready for the cameras when giving props to the band Radiohead for the idea.

[ICE Recruitment Announcer]

I'm a creep, I'm a weirdo. That's the song these guys are singing. What the hell am I doing here?

[News Reporter]

The efforts leading to the arrest of 16 men. One of them working as an auditor for U. S. Immigration and Customs enforcement.

[ICE Recruitment Announcer]

When he was arrested, he said ice boys. Well, you know, unfortunately for him, we locked him up, put him in our jail. He got re appropriated to our jail.

[News Reporter]

Another a staffer at the Minnesota pollution control agency.

[ICE Recruitment Announcer]

Maybe he'd go to work and figure out how to get that pollution out his mind. Come in here, try to mess with a 17 year old girl.

[News Reporter]

Soliciting sex with a minor wasn't the only alleged crime either. Police sharing this drone video of a suspect arriving at a hotel. Inside that bag was coke, meth and eight firearms. Another suspect told the decoy he was showing up with a gun. The chief sharing this video of the officers tackling him to the floor. The operation reminiscent of a similar sting several months ago that led to the arrest of ex state senator Justin Eichhorn, who's currently facing federal solicitation charges. The chief promising more crackdowns in the future. But the work is getting more difficult.

[ICE Recruitment Announcer]

The tactics that these people are using on these apps continuously continue to change. A lot of these platforms are getting sophisticated.

[Woody Overton]

So y' all Operation Creep. And. Applause to that chief. And evidently he's kind of like our favorite sheriff. Well, Jason Hard also, but Grady Judd who's just likes to meet media and takes it up a notch in operation Creep. And he's singing the song of it, but you got to love it. One guy works for ICE and boys. I'm ICE Boys. Like it's okay.

[Cindy Overton]

Yeah, yeah.

[Woody Overton]

And they come from all over. Meth, guns, whatever. And now they all in jail up in Minnesota where those boys are getting it done.

[Cindy Overton]

Thank goodness they're getting it done.

[Woody Overton]

But it ain't gonna stop every, I.

[Cindy Overton]

Mean one day, was it 17 or something that Sheriff Art got like his previous. But before that, they will come.

[Woody Overton]

They, you're never gonna stop it. There's always going to be there, they're always going to come. But at least you can make them have a little bit of fear.

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[Woody Overton]

So yeah, there you have it.

[Cindy Overton]

That's disgusting. I mean, I'm grateful that they're, they're doing what they're doing and then getting these people in positions of power too far.

[Woody Overton]

It's time for effort of professionals.

[Cindy Overton]

Former Alabama Teacher of the year Randy Nicole Jackson Staples, that's her whole name. Randy Nicole Jackson Staples has been arrested after a viral video purports to show her beating her son with a belt. She's 44 years old and she's a resident of Grand Bay, Alabama. And she was arrested and charged with willful child abuse of a child under the age of 18 on November 16. The arrest came after a video went viral which appears in the video. It shows staples beating her 12 year old son with a belt. She was released from the metro jail in Mobile, Alabama on Wednesday, November 19th. And Jackson Staples, who's 24, is her oldest son. And he told People magazine that he received a video from one of his siblings and promptly posted the video online. I guess he was trying to get, I don't know what his intentions were by doing that, but I didn't feel like, you know, she should be working at the school or even doing that to my little brothers. You know, she'd done it to me my whole life. So I'm 24 is what Jackson said. Something about he wasn't cleaning the kitchen like he was supposed to be. He left, went to the neighbor's house, come back and then it transpired into that. And so in the video, a woman alleged to be Staples is seen beating the young boy with a belt as she yells at him while he cries before she ultimately slams him to the floor by his hair. Mobile County Sheriff Paul Burch said this was the virus. The video was egregious. I mean, I'm all about disciplining a child if you have problems with them. You know, if that involves a spanking, you know, everybody disciplines their children different ways, but that was way above and beyond any form of discipline. So like I said, Staples was teacher of the year and she worked at Cottage Hill Christian Academy in Mobile, Alabama. Cottage Hill Christian Academy is said to prioritize the well being of well being of children above all else.

[Woody Overton]

That's crazy.

[Cindy Overton]

Yeah.

[Woody Overton]

And definitely effed up. Professional so many of those stories. You know, when I'm sending you the stories, there's so many of them to choose from and I just don't even get it or understand it. You know.

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[Woody Overton]

But let me share a little bit of holiday family love. It's time for Family Matters. And we were just talking about before the show yesterday, I injected a turkey with my own secret sauce and plumped it all up and smoked it for like eight hours and then took it out and let it cool and deboned it. You made the stock from it. Now you're making the big gumbo and you do a lot of frying this week and a lot of different kinds of cooking and everything's wonderful, right? As families should do.

[Cindy Overton]

Yes.

[Woody Overton]

Well, some families don't. And we're going to go to Wisconsin for this next story. And some people just don't deserve to breathe.

[Emily Matt Kesek]

A 14 year old girl weighing just 35 pounds. That's what emergency crews found when they were called to this Wisconsin home. It landed four adults behind bars facing multiple charges of child neglect. I'm Emily. Matt Kesek with Fox 11 News, Outagimi. County officials are saying this is one of the worst cases of child abuse they've ever seen. I'm going to take an in depth look at what prosecutors say the girl went through in that house. We should warn you, some of the details of this case are disturbing.

[News Reporter]

Quite frankly, these allegations before the court today are incredibly disturbing. It's alleged that the minor child was quite frankly, living in a house of hoarders.

[Emily Matt Kesek]

The victim was removed from the home in August. In addition to being severely malnourished, the girl suffered from multi organ disease dysfunction, including respiratory failure, cardiac dysfunction, severe acute hepatitis and pancreatitis. Her condition so severe, doctors and nurses didn't know if she would survive. I was able to observe photographs of.

[Cindy Overton]

Her and he looked like a skeleton.

[Emily Matt Kesek]

She was just literally skin and bones at 35 pounds. These are the suspects all arrested in November. Walter Goodman, who is the victim's biological father, his wife, Melissa Goodman, along with her adult daughter Savannah Lafever, and Lafever's partner, Kayla Stemmler. They're all charged with multiple counts of chronic child neglect, both physical and emotional. The criminal complaint says the victim went to live with her father in 2020 after he said the girl's biological mother went to jail. It was shortly after arriving at her father's home that the victim made her last trip to the doctor. At the time, she was attending school virtually because of COVID And while the complaint said she was enrolled virtually again for the 2020, 2021 school year. The following year she was reportedly being homeschooled. She was neglected for a number of years.

[Cindy Overton]

She has not gone to the doctor since September of 2020. She has not been in school since.

[Emily Matt Kesek]

COVID Walter Goodman told authorities his daughter was autistic and she didn't eat or sleep. He said that they did offer her several meals a day, but because she didn't eat or she didn't sleep, she burned extra calories and that's why she wasn't gaining any weight. Now text Mess Adults in the house tell a different story. Kayla Stemmler texted Melissa Goodman, writing, just so you know, mjg, who is the victim, was taking more than one bite at a time and when Savannah confronted her, she continued to argue with her. So I used the belt. Melissa Goodman responded, that's fine. Another text message exchange in the criminal complaint illustrates the disdain the adults had for the victim as Kayla Stemmler was caring for the victim. She writes, I've only had her since Saturday and I'm so mad to the bone. I don't know how in the world you do it. Melissa Goodman responds, it's hard to be honest and some days I don't want to anymore and wish she'd just go away. I'm just being honest. Savannah LaFever chimes in, I just want to karate kick her dumb head. Stemler responds, I totally get that even the girl's father didn't want her around. In an interview with a friend of Walter Goodman, the man told authorities that he told Goodman he needed to treat his daughter better, the complaint said. Goodman responded by saying, if I could leave her somewhere in the woods, I'd leave her. The man said. Goodman then addressed the girl, saying, I wish I could kill you. The complaint also says the girl spent the majority of time locked in her room, Walter Goodman telling authorities he would watch and communicate with the girl through a webcam he had set up in that room. He claimed she would self harm.

[Cindy Overton]

This is the most egregious case of child neglect I think I have ever.

[Emily Matt Kesek]

Personally seen in my nearly 25 year career. The case was only discovered after Walter Goodman called 911 in August to report the girl was very weak and lethargic. The first officer to arrive at the home said he believed the child, because of her size, was only about six or seven years old. She was immediately hospitalized in Green Bay before being transferred to Children's Wisconsin near Milwaukee. A nurse caring for the girl, upon explaining to the victim she would get three meals a day, noted the girl's eyes lit up as she listing off all the options of food she could have over the course of her hospitalization. She then told the nurse her dad would be so mad because he didn't like when she eats so much. She has now since been released from.

[Cindy Overton]

The hospital and and is gaining weight and is doing better.

[Emily Matt Kesek]

The charges Walter and Melissa Goodman along with Savannah Lafever and Kayla Stemler are facing carrying more than 80 years in prison. The four remained in the Otagame County Jail as bail was set. Between 100 and $150,000 cash for all of that was all four will be back in court later this month for preliminary hearings. You can read the criminal complaints filed in this case at the link below in the description.

[Woody Overton]

Y' all let me tell you something. I am not weight shaming or say anything about it. What you couldn't see when you listen to the audio there's four suspects of four people. I just like to kill her and leave her in the woods and got mad at food. I'm telling you the lightest one is like 300 to 400 pounds.

[Cindy Overton]

Disgusting.

[Woody Overton]

And so they this baby weighed 35 pounds and they just tortured her.

[Cindy Overton]

She's 12 years old.

[Woody Overton]

12 years old weighed 35 pounds. Let me ask what is the average 12 year old girl weigh?

[Emily Matt Kesek]

According to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention growth charts the average weight for a 12 year old girl is 93 pounds. However it's important to note that the weight of a 12 year old child.

[Woody Overton]

Can bear that 95. So 45, 55, 65, 75, 8560 pounds lighter than the average 12 year old. Yeah but the their own text messages. Yeah. I just like to get rid of her. I'd like to kick her in the head. Yeah me too. I mean them those people you don't ever want me to be president happy. All because of the death penalty thing. But those people I would change the law. I would make them sit in a cell with no fucking food. If I could prove what was done exactly by video or whatever I would make them suffer the same consequences. Those motherfuckers ain't never missed a meal in their life. And plus they ate all of mine in yours and that baby's and I not weight shaming. But how are you going to look like that and starve that baby to death?

[Cindy Overton]

Yeah.

[Woody Overton]

Kid didn't do anything to you.

[Cindy Overton]

Even if the kid did do something to you. She's a child.

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That's your responsibility to 12 years old.

[Woody Overton]

A kid has been tortured them there's nothing the kid could have done. They could have gave the kid away to somebody.

[Cindy Overton]

That's what I'm saying. There's nothing.

[Woody Overton]

Yeah, that them. Fuck them.

[News Reporter]

Them.

[Woody Overton]

And they won't be getting. I don't know what they ate for Thanksgiving's past, but they won't be getting it. And she will this year, which is good.

[Cindy Overton]

And she will. Well, we've got another bad professional briefer.

[Woody Overton]

It's time for Effed up professionals for this one.

[Cindy Overton]

I'm going to to take us to New York.

[Woody Overton]

New York City.

[Cindy Overton]

New York City, Europe. So a 55 year old on duty New York Police Department school safety agent was busted for groping a 16 year old queens high school student during a photo op with her.

[Woody Overton]

So a teacher grabbed her ass in a photo op.

[Cindy Overton]

This would be like what did the sheriff's guys that go into a resource officer? This is the New York Police Department school safety agent. So I'm assuming. Yeah. So they have a photo op and he gropes her. Philip Borden was in uniform when he posed for a photo with the teen inside Benjamin Franklin high school on 116th Avenue near Francis Lewis Boulevard in Cambria Heights late Wednesday afternoon. He initially placed his hand on her upper back, but then moved it down to her buttocks and grabbed it without the girl's consent. Well, like she, I mean even if she can't. You're right.

[Woody Overton]

I mean he just thinks he's going to get away with it. Give me a handful.

[Cindy Overton]

He was arrested and charged with forcible touching, official misconduct, endangering the welfare of a child and sexual abuse. And he was released on his own recognizance. How? During his Friday morning arraignment before Judge Sharifa Nasser Cuellar over prosecutor's request that he be held on $5,000 bail, an order of protection was issued to keep Borden away from the teen victim. Should be issued to keep him away from all minors. And the investigation is ongoing. It's not the first.

[Woody Overton]

Oh no, not, not if you do it so Brazil like that. I mean it's just unbelievable. And you know what? That dude, He should never wear the badge, period. Right?

[Cindy Overton]

No.

[Woody Overton]

So I'm about to tell you about another one who shouldn't wear the badge.

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[Woody Overton]

We are just laying it down with the effed up professionals today. And for the first time ever I got three, three audios to play in a row just the way these stories came in. But this, we're going to the great state of Louisiana. We're going to St. Gabriel. You know what's in St. Gabriel?

[Cindy Overton]

A prison.

[Woody Overton]

Yeah, that's the prison that everybody goes to. Hunts Correctional. When you get sentenced to Department of Corrections in Louisiana, you go there first, then they classify you to ship you to wherever you're going to go to. They used to have the women's prison there too, but I think it got destroyed during Hurricane Katrina. But you know, correctional officers, they always say that you can get anything you want in prison. And it's true. You can. Whatever kind of drugs, whatever you want, they, they got it. The one thing they can't do if you're in a men's prison in Louisiana is smuggle you in some Konichi. Oh, right.

[Cindy Overton]

What if the guard, what if the correctional officer is a female? And.

[Woody Overton]

Well, why don't we just see what, what chat Woody has to say about that.

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[Woody Overton]

So that you're. You were right on and you just didn't know it.

[Cindy Overton]

I did not.

[Woody Overton]

Female correctional officer mugging down with an inmate say naturally they arrest her on that. Now your vehicle's parked on prison properties and big signs subject to search at any time. So I noticed past experience when they, when they arrest them, then they're gonna go see what else they gotta go search their vehicles. They don't need a search warrant. And they search vehicle. She's got a load of firearms. And how lonely must you be if you got to spend your whole life. You got all the men in the world you can make out with, but you gotta, you gotta go make out with the inmate. You have one job. Don't put your tongue in that dude's mouth.

[Cindy Overton]

I think she had more than one job. That.

[Woody Overton]

I mean, that's the premise of it. The fox. I mean, she was. Got away with flirting, but you're gonna stick your tongue down the slope when you're on camera and you're in uniform and he's a convict.

[Cindy Overton]

I, I have no.

[Woody Overton]

And, and what's really sad is he's getting all mad props. She got arrested. Yeah. And, and there he's, he's, he's reaching legendary status. Oh, man, you got that girl. You got to make out with her. And I'm sure, pretty sure probably did more than that, but that's how that ball bounces. And there's your next effed up professional. Right.

[Cindy Overton]

How much would you say of the contraband in prisons comes from secure? Like from 90. Yeah.

[Woody Overton]

At least.

[Cindy Overton]

Yeah.

[Woody Overton]

If not more. Very, very little gets in by visitation and other means like that. You know, trustees are out picking up in the ditch and you'll have. One time we had a tennis ball they picked up like trash, but it was full of cocaine that people they know at a certain point or they'll drive by and throw it out, see them, whatever. Yeah, that kind of happens. But it's the guards they're bringing in.

[Cindy Overton]

Yeah.

[Woody Overton]

Guarantee they're sorry, Mama Karen.

[Cindy Overton]

The correctional officers, well, what is their motivation for doing that?

[Emily Matt Kesek]

Money.

[Woody Overton]

One little joint on the street may have cost a dollar. That same joint Inside sells for $300. So they, the correctional officers aren't making dick. And if they can get 500 bucks to bring in a quarter ounce of weed, that's. That's a lot of money for somebody that's making $500 a week.

[Cindy Overton]

Well, buy. Go get a different job if you want to make more money. I know what, I know what you're saying. I'm just saying you asked me. I did, I did.

[Woody Overton]

And I'm telling you. Money is the motivating factor. But they have to get played to get, you know.

[Ali Jackson]

Yeah.

[Woody Overton]

To get that part. Money is a motivating factor. There is no other reason.

[Cindy Overton]

Yeah.

[Woody Overton]

And it's always happened, always will. It's just stupid. But it happens. So I mean, you could pay them. You could pay them 10 times as much as some, but still take the extra money to bring it in.

[Cindy Overton]

Yeah. Goodness gracious.

[Woody Overton]

Well, since you are on delay, I'm gonna go ahead and go, how am I on delay? It's time for worldwide crime because it is a record, record day. We're going across the pond and we're going to London or at least half of London, according to this report.

[Cindy Overton]

Half of London.

[Woody Overton]

Half of London.

[Cindy Overton]

Okay.

[Woody Overton]

How do you. What I call. I just really wanted to take the story over because I wanted to get in today. And it's not necessarily a lot lighter note for half of London, but it's kind of a lighter note. It's the gift that keeps on giving. And it just so happens I have another audio.

[Cindy Overton]

Wow.

[Woody Overton]

Like, I know, it's crazy. Yeah. Thanks, Lee, for sending all these because I could, I could tell you about this and if the audio doesn't give it all, I will tell you about it. But this is. It's not hilarious, but it kind of is.

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[Woody Overton]

All right, so no audio. Bowing that out. So this is. It's a crime. But I don't think it's necessarily on the books in London.

[Cindy Overton]

Okay.

[Woody Overton]

But it's a crime. So they got this lady in London. I use that term loosely. And she is a self described self confess. Owns it to the umpteenth serial cheater.

[Cindy Overton]

Okay.

[Woody Overton]

All right. And she admits that she slept with more than 100 people.

[Cindy Overton]

Okay.

[Woody Overton]

And gave chlamydia. Oh to half of London.

[Cindy Overton]

There's only 100 men. There's 200 men in London.

[Woody Overton]

No, no. Stay tuned. But guess what she does now?

[Cindy Overton]

She gives chats to women about not being hoes.

[Woody Overton]

Well I guess technically it could be classified as that. Now she is a relationship expert because she knows so her name was Persia Lawson and she once had four boyfriends at the same time and sought out chaos in her relationships, she says due to her difficult upbringing. Then the 39 year old said her darkest moments were around 2010 when she worked at a strip club hanging around awful men and putting herself in dangerous situations. The relationship coach posted a video on TikTok with the caption quotations gave the clap to half of London at 23 close quotations and she and and said she even received a death threat after giving someone a sexually transmitted disease std, right?

[Cindy Overton]

Yeah.

[Woody Overton]

It doesn't have to be just the class. Yeah, she could have crabs, she could add, whatever, hiv. I mean, so doctors told her this happened first came around when the AIDS thing came around, but doctors told her she needed to let whoever she had slept with know that she had an std. All right. But you know what Persia said?

[Cindy Overton]

What she say?

[Woody Overton]

She said, I can't remember exactly.

[Cindy Overton]

So she needed to take out a billboard and like say, hey, have you slept with me?

[Woody Overton]

You might have it quotations. I couldn't remember as it was all a blur and I didn't even know some of the people she was. Said she was interested in men since she was nine years old and cheated on all of her boyfriends since she was 12, sometimes having as many as four boyfriends at once. Now that's four boyfriends and she's cheating on all four.

[Cindy Overton]

Yeah, whatever my relationship coach to be.

[Woody Overton]

Well, her parents the, you know, stepped in being the good parents so they are when they gave her an intervention at the age of 25. And Persia was taken to a health retreat in Thailand, Enjoying love and sex Addicts Anonymous.

[Cindy Overton]

They probably have an org.

[Woody Overton]

Are you serious? I mean, look, I'm sure it's an addiction and all that stuff, but I'm like, I'm pretty sure that's the club I want to be a part of.

[Cindy Overton]

You want to be a part of that?

[Woody Overton]

No, I mean not for having it. Because if you want to get almost guaranteed the score, go join Love and Sex and Honest.

[Cindy Overton]

Of course.

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[Cindy Overton]

Yeah.

[Woody Overton]

I mean it's like getting laid in a whorehouse with gold brick tied around your neck. Anyway, she said she then met her husband Joe in 2015 at a music festival and the happy cuppy got married in 2022. Now Persia works with women and writes books about her journey what she can remember and aims to raise awareness about sex addiction. Now Persia from Camberley, Surrey said quotation I had a cheating addiction and quite frankly was a home wrecker. Breaking up marriages. I was acting with boys from an early age. I was cheating on every boyfriend since I was 12. I got increasingly worse, particularly in university. Cheated on my boyfriends, sleeping my boyfriends best friends. When my boyfriend's dad was dying from cancer, I was having an affair. It was very dark. I went to drama school and me was just another place to just act out. I was sleeping with everyone in drama school. This was her own words. I ended up giving a boyfriend chlamydia. I found out from him because he said he had a rash it's not fun. His dad threatened to have me killed. It was very extreme. Yeah, I didn't have any symptoms which turns out can be quite common. You could pass it on, not even know that you have it. AIDS and everything else too dear. I'm pretty sure I gave it to lots of people. I couldn't give you numbers, but it wasn't good. The hard thing was that the doctor said you need to tell whoever you slept with. And I had no idea. I couldn't remember. I didn't even know some of the people who I'd slept with. It was such a blur. I lied and said my boyfriend must have cheated on me. Which is really awful. I just felt so embarrassed and ashamed. That was really bad behavior on my part. Like any addiction, I was a compulsive liar. I would lie about anything that is a trait of addiction because you try to conceal it all. I couldn't remember the lies I told. I ended up calling one of my boyfriends by the wrong name. I probably have four boyfriends at the same time. I would just go with these guys who were all over the place. Maybe addicts just big characters that are not healthy in any way. I kept getting into these very dark situations and it was definitely rock bottom. I have no, I mean idea how many people I've slept with. It's definitely in the hundreds. I couldn't possibly know. I was so willing to give my body up and not think about the dangers of that. Well, Pers said her parents noticed something was wrong when she got severe facial impaction from not looking at after her health. While working the strip club for the past 14 years. Persia has completely transformed her lifestyle and admits she has no shame around her old life. And the author aims to help remove the stigma around sex addiction in women and urges others to seek help. And Persia leaves you to you with these final thoughts. Persia says I got these horrendous stomach cramps and my mama, my mom had to drive me to the hospital and I found out I had severe. I guess it's fecal infection. Facial.

[Cindy Overton]

Yeah.

[Woody Overton]

I was not looking after myself. It was just drinking too much and my parents spotted the signs and my dad ended up taking me to health retreat in Thailand. And guess what it why it worked.

[Cindy Overton]

She met her new husband there.

[Woody Overton]

There were no boys there to distract me, no partying. I got into therapy, got into Sex Addicts Anonymous. I hadn't dealt with any of the trauma growing up. No one was talking about this. I didn't realize it was a thing. But for the past 14 years, I've been living a very different life. It feels like I'm talking about a movie. I've been with my husband for 10 years and been talking about for so long, I don't have any shame around it anymore because it's not where I am. And I've done a lot of healing, and I help other women with it. More women realize this, they would get the help they need to deal with it. No one would have known friends would see the chaos. But on the outside, I looked really successful. And their Ms. Purged is. And the story goes on, y', all, we're laughing. We're not laughing. I mean, nobody, you know, any kind of addiction, I guess, is a sickness. We'll pray for people who. I know they have sex addicts who. I've dealt with them. My wife sitting here, they. She's like, you.

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Shaking her head. Y', all, that was a joke.

[Woody Overton]

For those of you that think that I'm hating on my wife being a sex addict.

[Health Supplement Promoter]

Teasing.

[Cindy Overton]

I'm not ashamed to admit it.

[Woody Overton]

Okay, you want to play?

[Cindy Overton]

I can play, too.

[Woody Overton]

I know. All right.

[Health Supplement Promoter]

But seriously, prayer for anybody that's addicted to anything.

[Woody Overton]

I'm about to be addicted to some football and some Coca Cola and some good eats. Waiting on these rifles to go boom. Get these people off the stands.

[Cindy Overton]

Just a final thought on her. Thank you. I'm glad that she got the help that she needed, and now she's helping others. A lot of people are the only types of people that can help. Right? The.

[Woody Overton]

A lot of people who lived it. Yeah, yeah, I get it.

[Cindy Overton]

I mean, so, yeah, good for her.

[Woody Overton]

And I was totally joking about. Oh, I know everything, y'.

[Cindy Overton]

All.

[Woody Overton]

I've seen the worst of all these addictions, and. And it's not a joke, but, you know, when you title it, I gave chlamydia over half London.

[Cindy Overton]

No, exactly. But sometimes the only way you can get through these moments is to laugh at certain things, you know?

[Woody Overton]

I mean, well, there you have it. And if you were in London Anytime around 2010, forget checked. Burned. Boom, boom. Mr. Murphy, what seems to be the problem? Well, Doctor, I have a burning sensation when I urinate. He said, no. He said, doctor, my junk burns when I. When I want to pee. He said, no. So, Mr. Murphy, you mean you have a burn sensation when you urinate? He said, no, I got flames flowing out of my dick. I'm a burn the house down every time I take a piss.

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[Woody Overton]

No more the Thanksgiving week.

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We know. Y' all getting ready to be busy.

[Woody Overton]

Shopping and enjoying all your peeps and all that stuff. But all the murder victims and and their family members, you know. Love y'.

[Cindy Overton]

All.

[Woody Overton]

And and prayers for you. Holidays are always the hardest.

[Cindy Overton]

Yes.

[Woody Overton]

And you Anything else?

[Cindy Overton]

No, just prayers for those that are hurting right now because the holiday season is, you know, hard on. On those that don't have clothes, people that lost loved ones and.

[Woody Overton]

Yep, yep, yep. And not just murder victims.

[Cindy Overton]

Yeah.

[Woody Overton]

Or whatever.

[Cindy Overton]

Yeah.

[Woody Overton]

But prayers of peace for everybody. And probably I'll have a guest on this week.

[Cindy Overton]

Yeah.

[Woody Overton]

Right. And she was famous back in the day. She was famous before I knew even what a podcast was. So. But the Anyway, Foreign I'm Woody Overton.

[Cindy Overton]

I'm Cindy Overton.

[Woody Overton]

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