True Crime Time For November 28, 2025 | Thanksgiving Tales

Summary

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Real Life Real Crime: True Crime Time for November 28, 2025 | Thanksgiving Tales

Hosts: Woody Overton & Cindy Overton
Release Date: November 28, 2025
Podcast Theme: A mix of twisted, gruesome, sometimes funny, but always true crime stories, focused on incidents around Thanksgiving—told with Woody and Cindy’s characteristic wit, insight, and Southern charm.

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Overview

In this special Thanksgiving episode, Woody and Cindy Overton gather to share a collection of bizarre, shocking, and sometimes darkly humorous true crime stories that happened on—or are tangentially related to—Thanksgiving. The episode blends infamous cases, lesser-known oddities, and the hosts' signature banter, making for an entertaining and unconventional holiday listening experience. Through these tales, the Overtons also touch on themes of family, gratitude, and the sometimes volatile mix of both, especially during the holidays.

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Key Discussion Points & Stories

1. Giving Thanks—The Overton Way

• [02:40-03:59]
  Cindy and Woody open with gratitude, good wishes, and some light jokes about Thanksgiving traditions and family dynamics.
  • Quote:

    "We hope you all are having just a good old turkey day and football and all the good eats and not getting any family arguments..." — Woody Overton [02:55]

  • They joke about who does the dishes, paper plates, and the joys (and struggles) of family gatherings.

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2. Law Enforcement Professionals: The 'Cannibal Cop'

• [04:04-09:24]
  Cindy recounts the case of Gilberto Valle, the NYPD officer known as the 'Cannibal Cop,' whose gruesome online fantasies got him arrested but later released.
  • Story Recap:
    • Valle was arrested after his wife found disturbing material about planning to kidnap, torture, and eat women, including her.
    • Despite damning chats, the judge determined it was fantasy, not intent or action—resulting in his release.
  • Notable Quotes:

    "I always wonder what human flesh tastes like." — Woody Overton [05:05]
    “That’s probably a legit call by the judge…you get online…you can say some stupid f***g st because we live in America, right?” — Woody Overton [07:50]

  • Discussion: The hosts dive into freedom of speech, legal thresholds for criminal intent, and how fantasy can cross into criminal territory (or not).

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3. Thanksgiving Crime Oddities

Woody and Cindy share several offbeat stories, each more outrageous or tragic than the last:

a) Turkey Theft and a Heartwarming Twist

• [10:02-11:53]
  • Jimmy Mulligan of Bridgeport, CT gets mugged for his Thanksgiving turkey. Dispatchers are skeptical but help out, sending him turkey dinners after police confirm the theft.
  • Quote:

    "So Jimmy gives it up. Then he calls 911…‘I just got robbed my turkey and stuff’...the dispatcher didn't believe him." — Woody Overton [10:02]

  • Memorable Moment:

    "They bought two turkey dinners from Boston Market and had them delivered to Mr. Mulligan." — Woody Overton [11:47]

b) Family Feud with a Serving Fork

• [13:07-13:51]
  • Shanika Alsop in Baltimore stabs her half-brother in the neck with a serving fork at the Thanksgiving table. Woody jokes about 'assault' vs. 'a salt'.
  • Quote:

    "She grabbed a two-pronged serving fork and jabbed it into his neck..." — Woody Overton [13:13]

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4. Classic Thanksgiving Crimes

D.B. Cooper & Unsolved Mysteries

• [12:22-13:06]
  • Cindy starts on the infamous D.B. Cooper skyjacking but is quickly ribbed by Woody for picking a well-known case.
  • Woody gives a one-line summary:

    "D.B. Cooper jumped out of the back of an airplane with a whole bunch of money." — Woody Overton [13:51]

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5. Law Enforcement Professional 'Cool Cop' Segment

• [14:10-15:01]
  • A cop pulls over a man in a luxury Mercedes on Thanksgiving, impressed by the car and the driver’s job in oil and gas, lets him off with a warning.
  • Quote:

    “Was the cop really cool or just a tool for the rich?” — Cindy Overton [14:59]
    "Tool for the rich, I guess." — Woody Overton [15:00]

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6. Beer-Robbing Gone Wrong

• [21:24-22:57]
  • Johnny Anton Love tries to rob a Miami gas station; the clerk keeps cool, befriends him, triggers the silent alarm. The would-be robber drops his haul and gets caught.
  • Quote:

    “And Love's ass went to jail. In prison. And now he's got no body to feed him turkey.” — Woody Overton [22:54]

  • Their banter adds another layer of humor to the tale, imagining what Thanksgiving is like behind bars.

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7. The Model Who Killed for Thanksgiving

• [23:22-25:15]
  • In 1991, Egyptian model Omaima Nelson murders, castrates, and partially eats her abusive husband after a cycle of trauma—one of the most notorious Thanksgiving murders.
  • Quote:

    "Imagine hitting with a f***ing iron. But she already stabbed him." — Woody Overton [23:42]
    “Symbolic revenge. Omaima…made a point of castrating her husband as well…” — Woody Overton [24:52]

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8. Thanksgiving Massacre: 20 Years of Grudge

• [25:26-26:56]
  • Paul Michael Merhige dines with 16 relatives, then murders four—including a pregnant woman and a six-year-old—after waiting “20 years” for revenge.
  • Quote:

    “Afterward he reportedly said, I've waited 20 years to do this.” — Cindy Overton [26:21]
    “That is why I tell you all about the holidays…You leave the ones you love to be with the ones you can barely stand.” — Woody Overton [26:35]

  • The hosts are visibly horrified, especially at the killing of a child.

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9. Dishes, Dirty Deeds, and Deadly Arguments

• [27:51-29:10]
  • A father-son feud over Thanksgiving chores ends in patricide after a 76-year-old man shoots his son, who refuses to help clean up.
  • Quote:

    “He left. But he left in a body bag.” — Woody Overton [29:03]

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10. Home Burglaries, Vigilantes, and Deadly Stand Your Ground

• [29:19-32:15]
  • Brian David Smith, after repeated burglaries, waits in ambush and kills two teen intruders on Thanksgiving Day 2012—then delays calling police “not to bother them” on the holiday.
  • Quote:

    "There was no Hun like the Hun of men. And those that hunted armed men long enough and grew to like it, soon cared about little else. Ernest Hemingway." — Woody Overton [29:39]
    "I felt like I was cleaning up a mess. I was doing my civic duty. I don't see them as human. I see them as vermin." — Woody Overton quoting Smith [31:36]

  • The hosts discuss the blurred line between self-defense and vigilantism, referencing Hemingway and real-life consequences.

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11. Final Thoughts and Holiday Warnings

• [32:26-33:17]
  • Woody and Cindy sign off, reminding listeners to appreciate family, stay safe (especially around Black Friday shopping), and look out for one another.
  • Quote:

    "Happy Thanksgiving to all y’all. We love you very much. Cindy and I about to roll out and get some vittles and do all that good family stuff…” — Woody Overton [32:33]
    “Black Friday shoppers, stay safe… we're going to do some safety tips on that…” — Cindy Overton [32:51]

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Notable Quotes & Standout Moments

• Woody on Thanksgiving Family Dishes:

  "If I serve you, it’s on a plate... plate most of the time." — Cindy Overton [03:32]

• On the Cannibal Cop Case:

  "You can say some stupid fucking shit because we live in America, right? And you have freedom of speech." — Woody Overton [07:50]

• On the 'Happy Ending' Turkey Theft Story:

  "Why you laugh every time you say happy ending? You got a dirty mind." — Woody Overton [11:55]

• On Family Violence:

  "He left. But he left in a body bag." — Woody Overton [29:03]

• Reflecting on Holidays and Crime:

  "That is why I tell you all about the holidays… You leave the ones you love to be with the ones you can barely stand." — Woody Overton [26:35]

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Episode Structure & Flow (with Timestamps)

| Segment | Timestamp | Highlight | | ------------------------------------- | --------------- | -------------------------------------------- | | Intro, Family Gratitude | 01:51-04:00 | Warm wishes, family jokes | | Cannibal Cop Story | 04:04-09:24 | Infamous case, freedom of speech, legality | | Turkey Theft + Heartwarming Ending | 10:02-11:53 | Lighthearted, kind gesture | | Serving Fork Stabbing | 13:07-13:51 | Family violence at the table | | D.B. Cooper & Rapid-Fire Banter | 12:22-13:06 | True crime legend, quick summary | | Fancy Car Cop Encounter | 14:10-15:01 | Cops, riches, and holiday leniency | | Beer Robbery Fails | 21:24-22:57 | Clerk outwits robber with kindness | | Model’s Murderous Thanksgiving | 23:22-25:15 | Domestic horror, cannibalism | | Thanksgiving Massacre (Merhige) | 25:26-26:56 | Multi-victim family murder | | Dad Shoots Son Over Dishes | 27:51-29:10 | Chores end in death | | Vigilante Thanksgiving Ambush | 29:19-32:15 | Security, stand your ground, legal horror | | Closing Thoughts, Safety Tips | 32:26-33:17 | Safe shopping, family care |

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Tone & Style

The episode is full of Woody and Cindy’s characteristic back-and-forth: irreverent, unfiltered, and sometimes darkly funny, always juxtaposed with moments of genuine empathy for victims and survivors. They blend storytelling with law enforcement insight and Southern wit, making each tale a mix of education and entertainment.

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Useful for New Listeners

This episode encapsulates what makes "Real Life Real Crime" beloved: a mix of infamous and obscure crime stories, genuine rapport between hosts, legal insights, and a willingness to laugh at the absurdities (and horrors) of real life—even at the Thanksgiving dinner table. Perfect for listeners who want true crime with both edge and heart.

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Transcript

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[Cindy Overton]

Hi everybody and welcome to true crime time. 411282025 and I am Cindy Overton. I'm doing a intro for today's episode which is the same that we released last year. Woody asked me to do the intro because we have our family here and we are doing Thanksgiving and we just want to wish all of y' all the best Thanksgiving and hope that you're spending time with your family and friends and we will be back on Monday with regular episodes. But thank you for listening and we'll see you soon.

[Woody Overton]

Hello everybody and welcome this Happy Thanksgiving episode on Thursday, November 28 episode of True Crime.

[Podcast Host]

Time for Thanksgiving.

[Cindy Overton]

Yay.

[Woody Overton]

Happy Thanksgiving. This, my buddy used to say, but Happy Thanksgiving. We hope you all are having just a good old turkey day and Football and all the good eats and not getting any family arguments and. And hope you really enjoy yourselves.

[Cindy Overton]

All the people doing all the dishes.

[Woody Overton]

I mean, I know I use paper plates. Well, I'd use them every day if you let me.

[Cindy Overton]

You do use them every day, but still you.

[Woody Overton]

Sometimes you bring it to me.

[Cindy Overton]

If I serve you, it's on a plate. Plate most of the time.

[Woody Overton]

All right, well, so the Thanksgiving. I hope y' all are doing whatever you do and that you're being blessed. Thank you for liking and listening and sharing, and we really, really, really, really do appreciate you. And we're very thankful for you.

[Cindy Overton]

Absolutely. We're very thankful.

[Woody Overton]

Thankful and blessed.

[Cindy Overton]

Absolutely.

[Woody Overton]

And we're going to let you roll first with some Thanksgiving crimes.

[Cindy Overton]

Yes. And I've got a great one to start off with.

[Woody Overton]

All right.

[Podcast Host]

Law enforcement professionals.

[Woody Overton]

Oh, law enforcement professional segment. What you got?

[Cindy Overton]

We haven't had one of these in a very long time. And this is a Thanksgiving Cannibal Cop.

[Woody Overton]

Oh, so he might not be that professional.

[Cindy Overton]

Well, no, but I mean, he is in law enforcement.

[Woody Overton]

Well, that makes him professional. Go ahead.

[Cindy Overton]

Okay. The former NYPD officer Gilberto Valle has been granted his freedom after a judge overturned his conviction related to a horrifying plot to kidnap, torture, and eat women. This unsettling story unfolds with.

[Woody Overton]

For Thanksgiving.

[Cindy Overton]

Yeah.

[Woody Overton]

Instead of a turkey.

[Cindy Overton]

I guess so.

[Allie Jackson]

Yeah.

[Woody Overton]

I always wonder what human flesh tastes like.

[Cindy Overton]

Yeah. So.

[Woody Overton]

You do always wonder what. I know every kind of meat in the world. I want. I wonder what human flesh tastes.

[Podcast Host]

Well, I didn't mean I'm gonna try it.

[Woody Overton]

It doesn't mean I'm gonna try it. I just always wondered it. Especially when they cut them open autopsies and you see all the stuff. I'm thinking it tastes like pork.

[Cindy Overton]

I think it tastes like steak.

[Woody Overton]

No, not dark enough.

[Cindy Overton]

Well, Valle was the Vale. Whatever was arrested in October of 2012 after his then wife, Kathleen Mangan discovered disturbing images on his computer. Investigators found a list of 100 women he claimed he planned to kill, cook, and eat. Among the materials were transcripts of online chats where he detailed his grisly fantasies, including plans to take one Kathleen to Pakistan to murder and cannibalize her body. He even spoke of wanting a woman to experience being cooked alive.

[Woody Overton]

Nice.

[Cindy Overton]

Describing a scene to a whole new level.

[Woody Overton]

Get a little scream. Actually, more.

[Cindy Overton]

Well, describing her at a scene where she would be tossed up like a turkey.

[Woody Overton]

There you go.

[Cindy Overton]

Reminds me of Seinfeld when Kramer was in the hot tub on the roof and he kept putting that oil on him. And they showed him images. What's his face Norm or whatever thought he was. Yeah. Despite this chilling content, his defense maintained that his actions were strictly fantasy and never intended to be enacted. The trial culminated in a conviction in March of 2013 where he's facing life in prison under until recent developments.

[Woody Overton]

He killed somebody. Well, I mean, he must have killed somebody if he got life in prison.

[Cindy Overton]

So on November 21, following a re evaluation of the evidence, the judge ruled that proof of Vaye's intentions fell short, stating that the communications were more likely to be fantasy roleplay than serious plots. The judge emphasized that the content did not warrant the seven ramifications initially imposed. During the sentencing proceedings, Valle expressed gratitude for the ruling and acknowledged the trauma caused.

[Woody Overton]

And he's. That's probably a legit call by the judge. I mean that if you get online in, you know, an act of furtherance is. So that's actually a legal term.

[Cindy Overton]

So it's like if you don't act.

[Woody Overton]

No, you can. You can say some stupid fucking shit because we live in America, right? And. And you have freedom of speech. Being that he named the late lady specifically and talked all that shit, maybe she could have charged him with like simplest. Other states would be battery. Here it'd be assault. If she was in fear of this happening to her. But I mean, what's the chance he's gonna trust her up like a turkey? I'm not taking up for a sleaze bag. And he's a cop, right?

[Cindy Overton]

Yeah.

[Woody Overton]

And. But if you don't do anything to do an act of furtherance meaning that like he said, he won't take her to Pakistan with. If he bought two tickets for them to go to Pakistan. How you gonna get on a plane, get her to go to Pakistan, Right. Maybe you might get her to go to Tahiti.

[Cindy Overton]

Yeah.

[Woody Overton]

Who the wants to go to Pakistan? Hey, girl, come on, let's go to Pakistan for the weekend.

[Cindy Overton]

I know, but at what point? You always say like that there's a point of escalation.

[Woody Overton]

Yeah.

[Cindy Overton]

Where's that gray line?

[Woody Overton]

There's no gray line there. He never did anything other than talk about it. Yeah, I mean, I could talk about killing you all the time and. And I'm not going to do anything to further that.

[Cindy Overton]

Yeah, well, he's still marked as the cannibal cop.

[Woody Overton]

Yeah, he should be because he. He talked about eating people. Yeah, I'm pretty sure he's. Is he still. I wonder if he's still a cop. Doesn't matter. I would Guess not being that he was rest. Rested. So anyway, I mean, you know, I'm all about justice and that right there escorts the. The finding guilty for life for talking about murdering women. Well, you could talk about it. Just can't do it. So let me tell you an opposite Thanksgiving story. Are you ready?

[Cindy Overton]

Yes.

[Woody Overton]

All right. So there's this dude named Jimmy Mulligan, and he's from Bridgeport, Connecticut. He was walking this friend's house, getting ready for some Thanksgiving dinner. He's carrying a turkey and a plastic bag of goodies. They go cook it up, right? Yeah. And boom. And our man jumps out of the bushes and demands his turkey and stuff. And along with his wallet. This is true. Along with his wallet in the plastic bag of goodies. So Jimmy gives it up. Then he calls 91 1. Right. Well, called 91 1. What's your emergency? I got. Just got robbed my turkey and stuff. And. And dispatcher didn't believe him. Thought it was a joke. And then people do call it now when I got to do a 91 1. Ever say tiny Hayne just retired, 25 years running the dispatch office. Oh, my God. That should they put up with. So.

[Podcast Host]

But she.

[Woody Overton]

She thought he was joking, but being a 911 call, she had to send somebody out anyway.

[Podcast Host]

Right.

[Woody Overton]

When the cops get there and they arrive at the scene, guess what? They wasn't joking. And then they called the dispatcher back. The dispatcher was Denning Vieira. And he. He felt, or he or she felt so bad for the man. She felt so bad for the man that she decided to help him out. And her and her co workers got together and bought two turkey dinners from Boston Market and had them delivered to Mr. Mulligan.

[Cindy Overton]

That is so nice. That's a very good Thanksgiving story.

[Woody Overton]

Prime in it and happy in it.

[Cindy Overton]

Yeah, happy.

[Woody Overton]

Why you laugh every time you say happy ending? You got a dirty mind. All right, now, I'm sure you're going to throw some shade on my happy story with your sad Thanksgiving store where the Indians run away. Oh, nothing screams the holidays like.

[Cindy Overton]

So. Planes, trains and automobiles. So this is an unsolved mystery and starts off saying, imagine a heist so audacious that it has become a legendary tale in American folklore. Okay, well, this is the story of D.B. cooper.

[Woody Overton]

I already know. Everybody knows about D.B. cooper.

[Cindy Overton]

Well, okay, okay.

[Podcast Host]

No, no, you go ahead.

[Woody Overton]

I'm not gonna say anything about it. Go ahead. Good. I watched all the documentaries. Of course. I know my history. I know every they try to reenact it. I know where they found the money. Then I can do my next one.

[Cindy Overton]

Huh?

[Woody Overton]

Then I can do my next. Yeah, all right, check this one out. So this is a great big long story. So I take up the rest of the show. So Thanksgiving dinner. This is like it's going to be at my house. Now Thanksgiving dinner can be a time of family stress, but need it go this far? Shanika Alsop of Baltimore, who was arguing at the table with her half brother Deontay Antonio Wallace, grabbed a two pronged serving fork and jabbed it into his neck. He was taken to the hospital with minor wounds and she was charged with salt. I mean assault.

[Cindy Overton]

Haha.

[Woody Overton]

The end. I up to DB Cooper story. DB Cooper sum it up for you. A couple words. David Cooper jumped out of the back of airplane with a whole bunch of money. Okay, so back to you, Sydney law enforcement professionals.

[Cindy Overton]

All right, so this has to be the coolest law enforcement professional.

[Woody Overton]

Nice.

[Cindy Overton]

A video recently surfaced of a cop that pulled over a vehicle on Thanksgiving Day for speeding. It was shot by the car's passenger. While writing up the ticket, the cop asked the driver what kind of car it is. It turns out to be a Super fancy Mercedes G55AMG, worth a hundred thousand dollars. The man then disclosed he worked for an oil and gas company. Impressed, the cop asked the driver to put it in neutral and rev the engine. By the end of the exchange, the cop tears up the ticket. Was the cop really cool or just a tool for the rich?

[Woody Overton]

Tool for the rich, I guess.

[Podcast Host]

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[Woody Overton]

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[Woody Overton]

Wanted to hear that I actually drove one of these. That actually the fastest I've ever driven in my entire life was one of these.

[Cindy Overton]

I'm sure it was.

[Woody Overton]

And it was 177 miles an hour. It was the first all white with tan interior G55AMG to be in America. You know what that means, the G55AMG. The the motor is all hand built okay. And you know it was that had it. But yeah I've said on the show so what do I ask him to wrap it up?

[Cindy Overton]

I guess he wanted to hear it. I mean same reason why? You went the fastest you've ever driven.

[Woody Overton]

Okay, well, interesting. Different, but interesting. The. Maybe he was trying to get a job. And they go oil and gas industry. I don't think so. Maybe so. All right, so check this out. Dude named Johnny Anton Love attempted to rob a gas station in Miami Gardens, Florida on Thanksgiving Day in 2013. Well, the clerk. Yeah, I've had to work on Thanksgiving before and many, many, many, many, many times.

[Cindy Overton]

Me too.

[Woody Overton]

Kind of always sucks. But the clerk, David Paul Amour. Dude, just trying to make a dollar, make ends meet. Clerk at a gas station. He was calm and collected and he went beyond that. He was so cool. He befriended the robber, became friends with him, told him he should help himself to some beer. Right? Meanwhile, he secretly triggered the silent alarm. Now Johnny and Love grabbed so much beer that on his way out of store, the bags broke and cans scattered across the parking lot. And when the cops arrived, Love was busy trying to pick up the beer and hide the money in his clothes.

[Cindy Overton]

Wow.

[Woody Overton]

And Love's ass went to jail.

[Cindy Overton]

That's awesome.

[Woody Overton]

In prison. And now he's got no body to feed him turkey.

[Cindy Overton]

He's gonna get his leg quarter.

[Woody Overton]

Yeah, right. I gotta. We need to check on that. So y', all, let me tell you about the model who killed and castrated and ate her husband for Thanksgiving. Do you know about this?

[Cindy Overton]

No.

[Woody Overton]

All right, so On Thanksgiving Day 1991, Egyptian born fashion model Omania Nelson, 23, repeatedly plunged a pair of scissors into the chest and stomach of Bill Nelson, her 56 year old pilot husband. Then she reached for a clothing iron. Because she wasn't it. She wasn't done yet. So as Bill flailed, Omamia pummeled him to death with the iron until the heavy object actually broke in her hand. Now imagine a force it takes to break an iron. Imagine hit with a fucking iron. But she already stabbed him. Aminia unleashed her fury, she claimed, over the sexual terror and other abuses to which Bill had subjected her. Acts that reportedly including him pimping out his glamorous bride to kinky old creeps in exchange for rent, cash, and in one case, a car. Dude was a pilot. Do you think he's making a good paycheck? When Bill finally died, Aminia butchered his body on the kitchen floor. She then bowled his hands in oil to remove fingerprints and stuck his head in the freezer so she could later break out his teeth.

[Cindy Overton]

Jeez, what kind of woman is this?

[Woody Overton]

Symbolic revenge. How many have made a point of castrating her husband as well, right? I don't that's a good story. I mean that's just a good murder story. I don't believe she was pimped out. She'd probably be lying. But it happened. That's her right there. Real people, real life, real crime.

[Cindy Overton]

Yeah.

[Woody Overton]

And that's, I mean shit happens. And once you tell us about this one.

[Cindy Overton]

Well, Thanksgiving massacre. 20 years in the making. So on November 26, 2009, South Florida resident Paul Michael Murr, Mirage ate a hearty Thanksgiving meal with 16 family members and friends conversing and joking and even joining in sing alongs. I can't imagine you doing that. After dinner he whipped out a handgun and executed four relatives, including his cousin in law, his twin sisters, one of whom was pregnant and his cousin's 6 year old daughter. Afterward he reportedly said I've waited 20 years to do this. He fled the scene.

[Podcast Host]

He ran like a little.

[Cindy Overton]

But was captured and eventually cut a plea deal for seven, six consecutive life sentences to avoid the death penalty.

[Woody Overton]

Holy.

[Cindy Overton]

And he's a looker.

[Woody Overton]

That is why I tell you all about the holidays. Time you leave the ones you love to be with the ones you can barely stand. And he did this for 20 years. He was waiting on it.

[Cindy Overton]

Wait.

[Woody Overton]

And then he spread that. I wonder what he spread that Thanksgiving joy.

[Cindy Overton]

I wonder what the catalyst was that just broke.

[Woody Overton]

It's horrible for those families. And fuck him for the family members and fuck him. Especially a little girl. All right, I'm gonna tell you one more. And you already alluded to it about washing dishes, you know, you know, and it happens every year. You see it, you've seen it and we won't elaborate on it. And people get done eating and, and there's like, you know when the family insists upon using the fine china and all that, it's not like Woody, not for paper plate. And it's all stacked up as. And you got all these grown ass kids sitting around and, and whatever. And one person always ends up going in the kitchen and washing the dishes. She's sitting across from me. And then like get up.

[Cindy Overton]

Oh no, it's. Here's my plate. Yeah, yeah, I'm going to be quiet.

[Woody Overton]

Get up and do some fuck. We cook. All right, so this dude name was Elias Clay Oliver. He's 76 years old and he's a little pissed off towards his son Keith Oliver, who's 49. You know why? Because old Keith refused to help around the house. And his dad got so pissed off he went into a homicidal rage on Thanksgiving Day of 2009. Now, the father and son had been arguing for hours prior to Major Oliver, 75, who's obviously say, this wife and Keith's mom, she said, hey, Keith, why don't you just leave? He said, fuck that, Mama. I ain't going anywhere. You know what happened? His daddy went upstairs, got a.357 caliber revolver, and shot Oliver to death.

[Cindy Overton]

Wow.

[Woody Overton]

So you know what? He was right when he said he wasn't gonna leave. Well, he left. But he left in a body bag.

[Cindy Overton]

Yeah, he did.

[Woody Overton]

Thanksgiving. Love Thanksgiving. Love, love, love, love, love y'. All. One more, right? You want one more?

[Cindy Overton]

Sure.

[Woody Overton]

And then we just kind of call it because this one's kind of special. All right, so a guy named Brian David Smith, who was a retired security engineer and officer with the U.S. state Department, pretty sure that means he's like a fucking spy or something. But he had dealt with his Little Falls, Minnesota home being burglarized several times in just a couple months. So you know what he did? He installed an alarm system complete with video cameras, and he aimed it all around several areas of his house. Then on Thanksgiving Day in 2012, he sat in his basement with a rifle and weighed it. Certainly there was no Hun like the Hun of men. And those that hunted armed men long enough and grew to like it, soon cared about little else. Earnest hen and way. One of my favorite sayings. So he's sitting down there in the basement waiting to get him some. Well, the video from that day captures Smith moving his truck from the driveway prior to the break in to make it appear as if he wasn't home. Right then, an hour later, two teens and hoodies can be seen case in the place before entering the property. Now, the teens were Haley Elaine Keefer, 18, and her cousin Nicholas Brady, 17, both of whom were unarmed. Now, Smith had suspected Kiefer and Brady have been have of having been responsible for at least some of the earlier break ins. And they were later suspected of robbery of a retired school teacher that had occurred earlier while on Thanksgiving Day. Now, while Smith sat in his basement, he had a tape recorder running. And there are hours of audio recordings that document his time lying in wait, complete with the sound of the breaking glass and the confrontation that followed. The audio captures the shots fired and Smith statements during and after the killings, including I refuse to live in fear and I'm not a bleeding heart level. I felt like I was cleaning up a mess. I was doing my civic duty. I don't see them as human. I see them as vermin. Incredibly, despite the two dead bodies in his house, Smith wouldn't actually call the police until the next day, stating that he didn't want to bother them because of the Thanksgiving holiday.

[Cindy Overton]

Oh, my goodness. He's so nice.

[Woody Overton]

It's not funny at all. But I mean, this farmer's. Yeah, but that's a Happy Thanksgiving episode.

[Cindy Overton]

Yeah.

[Woody Overton]

Happy True crime time for Thanksgiving Day episode.

[Cindy Overton]

That's right.

[Woody Overton]

True crime time for Thanksgiving day. Happy Thanksgiving to all y'. All. We love you very much. Cindy and I about to roll out and get some vittles and do all that good family stuff. Except for all this shit you heard on here, right? We kill anybody?

[Cindy Overton]

No.

[Woody Overton]

And. And.

[Cindy Overton]

And Black Friday shoppers. Stay safe.

[Woody Overton]

Say if. Stay safe. And you know what? We're going to do some safety tips on that. But just have some common sense to look around before you get in your car, have your keys, your hand and all that. Another thing is there's so many people shopping on Black Friday. Usually that's not the worst time for the crime. It usually starts up between now and Christmas, so.

[Podcast Host]

But happy Thanksgiving. Love y'.

[Woody Overton]

All. Turkey, turkey, gobble gobble. Right? All right. And. And we love and appreciate each and every one of y'. All. Thank you for liking listening and sharing. Until next time. I'm Woody Overton.

[Cindy Overton]

I'm Cindy Overton.

[Woody Overton]

Love y'. All. Peace.

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