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Woody Overton
Hello, everybody and welcome to this episode of True crime time for Monday, November 3rd, 2025. And I'm Woody Overton.
Cindy Overton
And I'm Cindy Overton.
Woody Overton
Got a Christmas sweater on.
Cindy Overton
It's Christmas time.
Woody Overton
It's not Thanksgiving yet.
Cindy Overton
It's Christmas time now.
Woody Overton
It is for you to see our house, y'. All. But do you know what? It really is anniversary time.
Cindy Overton
Yay. Happy anniversary.
Woody Overton
Two days or three days pass now. November 1, 2025 is a one year anniversary of True crime Time for your weekly news crime news show.
Cindy Overton
Yay.
Woody Overton
And consistently ranking in the top 100 of all really the top 50 of all new shows and all of that. So thank you all for liking and listening and sharing and we hope you enjoy the stories we'll bring you. And you never know what you're gonna get, right?
Cindy Overton
That's true.
Woody Overton
So happy anniversary and thank y' all for making the show a success and wow, the Patreon convicts, thank you for your continued support and the we have more commercial national commercials we have ever had. We averaging seven a show now and you can really only have eight. So Patreon convicts, you get a commercial free in the early releases. So thank you. All right, what you got? It's time for family Matters.
Cindy Overton
I'm going to probably your second favorite State.
Woody Overton
Wisconsin.
Cindy Overton
Yes.
Woody Overton
Yep.
Cindy Overton
We're going to Appleton, Wisconsin.
Woody Overton
Okay. I got lots of apples up there. They miss some good apple, moonshine, brandy, whatever it's called.
Cindy Overton
Not apple pies or apple cobbler.
Woody Overton
No, I'm talking about doc up there. He's. Well, I won't say what kind of doc he is, but crab apple is. Is the stuff that brings us. And when you bring. They come down the hog hunt. He brings, like, several handles of it that they make. And I learned the first time you had to hide one for yourself because he got drank.
Cindy Overton
Yeah.
Woody Overton
All right. Okay.
Cindy Overton
Well, There was a six week old infant brought to the hospital on September 29, and he was suffering from a mouth injury. Officers had been called to the scene or were called because of this, and they said that they uncovered a series of grave fractures on the child. So the infant was diagnosed with fractures to both femurs, seven broken bones and a broken clavicle, a broken wrist and a chest contusion and other trauma that's not listed. But they went to the hospital for a mouth injury.
Woody Overton
Right.
Cindy Overton
So investigators report that the mother told them that she and her husband. And her husband is William Page, who's 35 years old. She saw William strike her son about.
Woody Overton
A week earlier, and she did nothing.
Cindy Overton
Right. When Paige was interviewed, he admitted to numerous, quote, unquote, angry outburst while caring for the infant. He said that the baby's high pitched crying and persistent colic triggered his anger. That's just an excuse to beat the child.
Woody Overton
Right.
Cindy Overton
And he said, yeah, for me, it gets to this point where my anger, typically, it just builds, builds, builds. And lately with the colic, it seems like my anger will just all of a sudden just snap. So Paige also admitted that on several occasions, he held the baby so tightly against his chest that the infant went limp in his arms. Estimating he did this maybe once every four to five. Like the baby went limp every four to five times that this was done to him.
Woody Overton
Yeah.
Cindy Overton
When asked whether his actions could have killed the infant, he said, it's possible, but I wasn't meaning to.
Woody Overton
Yeah, right.
Cindy Overton
I mean, damn. Despite the severity of the injuries, Paige reportedly told police he did not understand why his behavior constituted abuse.
Woody Overton
Okay.
Cindy Overton
His quote is this. I don't know why this is considered abuse. This isn't intentional.
Woody Overton
Okay.
Cindy Overton
Police charged Paige with one count of physical abuse of a child by repeated acts causing bodily harm and one count of strangulation or suffocation. And as of the latest update, there are no publicly listed further developments in this case beyond the Initial arrest and charges.
Woody Overton
Yeah, well, I already know I don't have to look at the map. I know Wisconsin does not have the death penalty and they deserve it. Let's go to Harvard Medical School.
Charlie
Right now, the FBI is joining the manhunt for two suspects caught on camera fleeing a Harvard Medical School building after an explosion yesterday morning which officials believe was intentionally set. Our next guest, who worked on the 1993 World Trade center farming, says despite evidence destroyed in the blast, there's still enough to catch them. Retired FBI supervisory agent James Gagliano joins us now. So great to see you this morning. Thanks for joining us. So what do we know at this point about this explosion?
James Gagliano
Boy, Charlie, it's really, really limited. I mean, the officials are basically saying it was a device and it was intentional, but they stopped short of describing it as a bomb or an improvised explosive device. Now look, one of the most difficult things in these type investigations is when you have an explosion that goes off, the evidence gets destroy. Now, that didn't stop us from solving the USS Cole bombing, didn't stop us from solving the first World Trade center bombing or others. But in this instance, crowdsourcing. What we're doing right here, right now, showing pictures of the two suspects, and that's what authorities are calling them, is going to help close this out. It's been 28 hours, but they're going to catch these two.
Charlie
And the fact that they are right there on the screen, they're masked and fleeing, sort of suggests that this was not some sort of accidental thing that happened.
James Gagliano
Right. And authorities didn't refer to them as persons of interest. A person of interest could just be considered a witness. They defined them as suspects. That tells you a lot. FBI has the lead on this. They always do, since 1998 when PDD 62 came out. And they will catch these guys.
Charlie
And authorities said that there were no injuries, but they don't explain much about what damage was done. Do we know what kind of damage was done?
James Gagliano
What happens in an explosion? Three things are the killers, right? The first is overpressure from the device or the bomb or the explosion. The second is fragmentation, you know, scattering whatever else is around it inside the blast radius. And last and equally nefarious is the thermal effect. What's caused by the fire. What was the motive behind this? Officials aren't saying. I'm hoping there'll be a press conference today and lay this out.
Charlie
Do we think there is any lasting damage to the building or the surroundings?
James Gagliano
They aren't suggesting that. And a lot of Times you can tell more from what the police aren't saying early on than what they are releasing. So we have not heard exactly what the damage was, how extensive, and if anything in specific was targeted.
Charlie
Do we know whether or not we think these are students?
James Gagliano
Boy, it's tough to say. You know, you look at the stills that have been released, you know that Harvard University is blanketed by cameras, so the digital exhaust will catch up with them. And I think we'll get some more still images, maybe some video, just like in the case of the Charlie Kirk assassin. We're going to see a lot more about these two and they will be brought to justice if they were involved.
Charlie
Right.
Woody Overton
James Gagliano, let me tell you something. What is the purpose of blowing up a medical school building?
Cindy Overton
What's the purpose of blowing up anything?
Woody Overton
Yeah, that's true. The, these suspects, if you will, y', all, they are not only just masked, they have hoodies on, long, baggy sweatshirts and you know, I'm pretty sure anytime you see somebody running from a building with face mask and hoodies and baggy sweatshirts and, and they're hauling ass and a bomb just went off and that's your guys. Right, But I don't know. The, the medical building, they're either doing studies or they're teaching people how to save lives and doing good. I don't care what university it is.
Cindy Overton
Right.
Woody Overton
That's. Those people will one day will be. May be saving your life or someone you know's lives, etc, and these are just gonna blow it up.
Cindy Overton
Blow it up.
Woody Overton
Yeah. And if the whole building's not blown down is what they're saying in there. But you can see the, where the windows are blown out and all that. Then anytime you have a bomb, naturally it's going to cause damage. Thank God nobody got killed.
Cindy Overton
And terror like people.
Woody Overton
Yeah, yeah, absolutely. What, these are still running around. It's just like the murderers and Bradley's case. They're still running around. Yeah. You know, that was to stop them from doing it again.
Cindy Overton
Exactly.
Woody Overton
Matter of fact, if I had it on my mind where I want to do so if, if I was these guys and I just want to cause havoc, I would have a, you know, a second third foresight picked out that you're going to go, you know, they're going to catch them. I mean, it's like the Boston Bomber. Yeah, Bombers, and they're going to catch them and. But you just, you're the fucking asshole today. Assholes of the day.
Cindy Overton
Holes of the day.
Woody Overton
Yeah, that's how it happens.
Cindy Overton
Do you think they woke up one morning and just said hey, we're going to go do this? And then May executed the plan. What if everybody woke up one morning and said hey, we're going to do good today. We're going to do some good things today.
Woody Overton
I try to do that.
Cindy Overton
Well, you do that everybody a little.
Woody Overton
Bit better today than I was yesterday and hopefully we'll get to bless somebody, right?
Cindy Overton
Yeah.
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Woody Overton
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Cindy Overton
Yeah.
Woody Overton
Or how Sliding scale I guess you would say.
Cindy Overton
Yeah, the spectrum.
Woody Overton
The spectrum, yeah. All right, where are we going next?
Cindy Overton
We are going to Charlotte, North Carolina and police are very concerned because although they're seeing a decline in certain crimes, and I'll get to that a little bit later, they're seeing an increase in crimes by a certain segment of population and repeated crimes by this segment. So according to Charlotte Mecklenburg Police Department, one 15 year old boy has been arrested. Do you want to guess how many times or you don't want to play that game today?
Woody Overton
Not today.
Cindy Overton
111 times a teenage boy, uh huh. 15 years old since August of 2023.
Woody Overton
Okay so in two years, that's almost like once, what every four days he's been arrested. Ye, I mean fuck, you gotta, you gotta go see the judge at some point and be detained. So basically as soon as they let.
Cindy Overton
Him out, he's going out again.
Woody Overton
Another crime.
Cindy Overton
So the teenagers long listen we build prisons. The teenagers long list of arrests includes 55 stolen vehicles, 45 break ins and multiple weapons charges. They investigators also found disturbing Internet searches on his phone. What is the charge for killing an officer? Is police murder a charge? Those are his searches. Despite the history the teen this police murder a charge.
Woody Overton
AI should have said you're the dumbest fucker that ever walked to face with earth.
Cindy Overton
We don't know AI's response, but let's see, hold on.
Woody Overton
Is police murder a charge?
Cindy Overton
Here's what I found.
Woody Overton
The police officers ordered to shoot someone. Are they a murderer? Is killing a cop a criminal charge?
Cindy Overton
Here's what I found.
Woody Overton
Man, it's so stupid. They won't even register it. Nothing. It won't pick up what I'm laying down.
Cindy Overton
Right. So despite that history, the teen was released again in September of this year after his most recent arrest. Sergeant Tom Martin of CMPD told reporters that the case is a prime example of catch and release. The cycle of catch and release that keeps the same offenders committing new crimes. Charlotte police say that this one's juvenile this one juvenile situation highlights a much bigger issue, that a smaller number of repeat offenders are driving a large share of the city's property and violent crimes. In fact, department data shows that about 60% of people arrested for violent crimes in Charlotte already had prior arrest.
Woody Overton
Yeah, that's. That's pretty. Actually, that's pretty standard for anywhere.
Cindy Overton
But what's especially frustrating for the officers is that the overall crime rates in the city are down. Violent crime has fallen by roughly 20%. Yet they keep arresting the same small group of juveniles over and over again.
Woody Overton
I used to arrest them for the serious stuff and I'd say gonna make a fine trustee somewhere one day because in later on as a detective, I would arrest them as adults. Yeah, murder, right, Whatever.
Cindy Overton
You have a perfect thing. Your last live. You talked about one of those.
Woody Overton
Yep. Oh, yeah, right. That's an evil D there. Okay.
Cindy Overton
Police officials describe it as systemic failure, one that leaves both law enforcement and residents feeling powerless. We're putting them in handcuffs, one official said, but the courts are just letting them walk right back out.
Woody Overton
Yep. And I hope that judge or the ones that let him walk, whatever. I'm not going to wish any ill will on anyone, but whatever.
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Cindy Overton
I honestly have no idea. Yeah, well the that's one of my biggest fears.
Woody Overton
We're going to Texas first of all. And the unfortunately this bad guy has a really, really he should not be buying Powerball tickets. He has bad luck. Let me see if I can play this. Public execution as they return to the streets. Hamas on a rampage Executing Palestinians Bloody.
James Gagliano
Crackdown Spreading terror for freedom, not terror. Hamas must go.
Narrator
At this time it is believed that the authority deputy had walked out and secured his young child and baby seat on the back seat of his vehicle. When a male approached and attempted to enter his vehicle, the deputy gave him multiple verbal demands to not enter the vehicle, which he disregarded. And at the point in time the male suspect opened the door and tried to get in the vehicle. The deputy, fearing that his baby's life was in danger, discharged his weapon multiple times striking the suspect.
Woody Overton
So the as far as being having shitty luck so a deadly shooting unfolded in Texas Friday when an off duty Harris county deputy opened fire on a man who tried to get in his car as his young child sat just feet away this happened around 2:45 5:00pm and at you would know this Addis Co about 20 miles north east of downtown Houston. Le Marie would know that one is. And the off duty deputy had called 911 to tell them he had someone at gunpoint. Yeah, right. I got this motherfucker at gunpoint. So Major Ben K. Said the deputy had just placed a child in the car seat when an unknown man, later identified as Darius Williams, who's 27, got into his car. You know, and the deputy was heard giving multiple verbal commands to Williams. But he just. Maybe he was deaf, I don't know. But he was like it, I'm getting in the car anyway. And he opened the pass side door. And that's when the deputy filled him full lead as he should have. Yeah, right. He shot him multiple times. So first responders came, provided aids but Williams was going to jail or. Hell, he didn't make it to the hospital. He is dead AF now they're saying that the deputy and the child are okay. Can you imagine? I don't want to help that kid was having to see that dude get shot. The they said it's unclear if Williams or AKA our bad guy, unlucky guy, had any weapons at the time of the intrusion or how many times he was shot. But his mother, T Tenisha, said her son was released from jail on Thursday night and was struggling with mental health issues. She said last night they picked him up for walking in the oncoming traffic and ran his name. So he had a warrant for failure to appear from the last episode. The officer called me when she was there with him on the scene and asked me a lot of questions. And I said, ma', am, why don't you just take him to the psychiatric ward. He's walking into traffic. And she said, we're going to deal with this warrant. He's going to jail. So the. Actually, I don't know what parking lot it was, but this whole thing supposedly is called ring video. So the sheriff's office and Harris County D A have opened separate investigations. That's typical. And you know they're going to present to the grand jury, but I'm sure it's. It's a good shoot as we call it in the business. But that dude just. He won't be walking in traffic anymore.
Cindy Overton
Or getting into other people's cars.
Woody Overton
Yeah.
Cindy Overton
What would you, what would you say for someone to do in that situation? I mean, you don't have a handgun.
Woody Overton
You don't have concern if, if I didn't have a handgun And I'd grab my kid and run.
Cindy Overton
Yeah.
Woody Overton
And call 911 because you don't know, this dude might pull out a knife and stab the kid or whatever.
Cindy Overton
Yeah.
Woody Overton
If I didn't have a handgun, I absolutely would secure my child.
Cindy Overton
Yeah, that's smart.
Woody Overton
I mean, the cops are gonna catch him.
Cindy Overton
Yeah.
Woody Overton
It was middle of the day. Yeah. So. All right, what you got?
Cindy Overton
We've got a missing person investigation that's taken a really tragic turn. And this is in Philadelphia, so no longer missing.
Woody Overton
The city of brotherly Love.
Cindy Overton
So there's a 23 year old K. Scott, and she worked at an assisted living facility in Chestnut Hill. And she was last seen leaving her job on the night of October 4th of this year. And her disappearance triggered a citywide search. Investigators discovered that she had been receiving harassing phone calls in the days leading up to her vanishing. On Saturday, October 18, a very specific anonymous tip led police to a wooden section behind an old school that ADA H. Lewis Middle School in East Germantown.
Woody Overton
Germantown. I think every city has a Germantown. The Chattanooga does. A lot of cities I lived in have the German towns.
Cindy Overton
The officers uncovered a shallow grave and recovered human remains believed to be Scott.
Woody Overton
I'm glad they got her.
Cindy Overton
DNA testing subsequently confirmed the remains belonged to her. And prosecutors and police announced that confirmation on October 20th. But in the course of the investigation, 21 year old Keon King of Dover, Delaware was arrested and now faces multiple charges. This includes kidnapping, stalking, tampering with evidence, robbery and others. And according to prosecutors, King and Scott had cell phone contact before her disappearance and a gold Toyota Camry linked to the case was recovered by police and processed forensically. King had previous charges involving kidnapping and strangulation.
Woody Overton
How the you get out of prison on that? It's. That's like Caitlyn Ad. Yeah, the screwdriver Red had kidnapping. He was going to rape and murder that girl. And he gets out and they plead him to attempt at simple kidnapping. He gets 10 years and he gets out behavior.
Cindy Overton
Guess that's my thing.
Woody Overton
If you kidnap, that should automatically be a life charge, Right?
Cindy Overton
Right. But he had those charges, kidnapping and strangulation earlier in 2025. But the victim, the charges were dropped after the victim appeared failed to appear in court.
Woody Overton
And what happened in Louisiana and state of Louisiana pick up that charge.
Cindy Overton
And prosecutors acknowledged that was a mistake. Well, it was a life. I mean. Philadelphia District Attorney Larry Krasner stated publicly that he is confident that homicide charges will be brought in this case at this time. The precise cause of death for Kada has not been publicly released, and investigators continue to search for other possible victims connected to King Dollar Donuts.
Woody Overton
He's strangling on her. Like the last one.
Cindy Overton
Yeah. And then the site where they found her, the ADA H. Lewis Middle School, is now under review by the school district, clearing debris and evaluating how an abandoned property became the location of such a crime. I mean, maybe other bodies.
Woody Overton
I mean, it's pretty obvious it's an abandoned property.
Cindy Overton
Exactly.
Woody Overton
It's a place of opportunity.
Cindy Overton
Exactly.
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Woody Overton
Now, let's talk about this time of the year. I absolutely love it. Absolutely. My favorite time. It's. It's cool and, you know, other than trying to keep the leaves out of the swimming pool and like that. But it's hunting season, it's football season. We just got back some fire ass jalapeno cheddar sausage. Right. The just love everything about Eden. When you around with all the decorations, y' all, look, you go in my kitchen and it's got all this Thanksgiving shit up. But then I walk in another room, we got Christmas trees up.
Cindy Overton
That's true.
Woody Overton
Yep.
Cindy Overton
Well, Thanksgiving is limited to the kitchen because it's about food.
Woody Overton
You don't even fucking know. Just.
Ad Host
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Woody Overton
The storage spaces and the bins from all the decorations that aren't shoved anymore. I'm a shut up for I get in trouble.
Ad Host
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Woody Overton
Pretty much. 1. Not one of my favorite reasons. But another thing that happens at this time of the year is for guesses.
Cindy Overton
Another thing that happens is to us.
Woody Overton
Guess one. Tick tock, tick tock.
Cindy Overton
I mean, obviously hunting. I mean, there's no fishing, gambling.
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Tick tock, tick tock. Guess what. Guess what.
Woody Overton
The World Series ended last night or what? On Saturday night.
Cindy Overton
I know.
Woody Overton
And the. So baseball is officially done for the year.
Cindy Overton
And that's your favorite thing?
Woody Overton
No, no, that's one that. I mean, it takes one of the things off my agenda. I haven't.
Cindy Overton
The boys are totally against the Dodgers.
Woody Overton
I don't know. But you know what? We're going to Los Angeles. And you know, if your team wins, this is a celebration, man. I've been there. When LSU won, it was at the Sugar bowl, but it was a national championship. And, you know, it's. It's a good time. People take to the streets, have a lot of fun, but you always got some assholes in the crowd.
Cindy Overton
Yeah.
Woody Overton
So we're going to Los Angeles and police officers are, you know, naturally, anytime you have a mass event like that, like we saw on the super bowl there's going to be a shit ton of law enforcement, right? Well, they're there to keep the law in order. And when the law and order goes the other way, you know, they got to do what they got to do. They got to do the jobs. But. Los Angeles police officers were hit with fireworks and bottles during street celebrations after the Dodgers won the World Series late Saturday. And what do police do? Well, you throw rockets and bottles at me, I'm gonna throw some tear gas at you. And non lethal munitions, it means they shoot them with the beanbags or taser them or whatever, so. And that's what happened. Otherwise known as sugar turn to shit. Then the celebration has now officially turned to. And it's all going down, right? This mass chaos. They're. I can't imagine my. What in the world possess you to throw a bottle, much less bring out, bring up, bring out your best fireworks in Los Angeles and let's shoot the police with them. So. The Los Angeles Police Department Central division announced early Sunday that less lethal munitions and tear gas had been authorized around Olympic Boulevard and Grand Avenue. Said CS gas and CS gas is a gift that keeps on giving. CS gas has been authorized by the incident commander. Officers are being hit by industrial sized fireworks and bottles. They didn't say if any of the officers were injured, but photos and videos from downtown Los Angeles show police officers in helmets and some wearing gas masks. Smoke can be seen rising from the streets as the sound of multiple fireworks crack through the night. Fucking war zone, that's what it is. Some smoke appeared to come from cars who were performing donuts and burning out tires at a street takeover. The, you know, people peel out and you're like, I always joke and say ooh, you're so cool. These people make get crowds to do it.
Cindy Overton
Yeah.
Woody Overton
But one photo showed a Waymo vehicle with broken windows and painted with graffiti on Sunset Boulevard. Look at that car. I don't even know what the a Waymo vehicle is, but it's trashed. The street celebrations broke out in Los Angeles after the Dodgers thrilling Game 7 comeback win over the Toronto Blue Jays. Days in extra innings. The Dodgers triumphed five to four over Toronto after catcher Will Smith hit the game or the go ahead run in the 11th inning. I'm not going to tell you about the rest of them because I don't give a but this. Los Angeles captured back to back titles becoming the first team to do so since the 99 and 2000 New York Yankees. And then the fans acted a fool.
Cindy Overton
How what is the highest paid football player?
Woody Overton
God, I don't know. Because every year they go up.
Cindy Overton
But what would the range be?
Woody Overton
Oh, I don't know, 150, 200 million.
Cindy Overton
Do you know that these baseball players are in the 800 million?
Woody Overton
That's ridiculous.
Cindy Overton
Exactly. Yeah, it is ridiculous. That is a crime.
Woody Overton
Well, they now. I don't think it's a crime.
Cindy Overton
I do.
Woody Overton
Would right now, if I just broke out my super skills, a baseball player, and somebody signed me for 800 million, would. You wouldn't think it was a crime then.
Cindy Overton
Yeah, I would.
Woody Overton
You. You're like, yeah, go ahead.
Cindy Overton
A crime that you didn't break these skills out earlier.
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Woody Overton
That's.
Cindy Overton
That's no, but the fact that they're. They can get that much, it's crazy to me.
Woody Overton
That's. That's law. Supply and demand.
Cindy Overton
I know that happens that. Yeah.
Woody Overton
That's not a crime. The. If you got the skills to pay the bills, get. Get them paid. Okay, so what do you have? It's time for family matters.
Cindy Overton
I'm taking us to Texas this time. We're going south of Fort Worth in a town.
Woody Overton
Kimmy.
Cindy Overton
Maybe this is.
Woody Overton
Kimmy knows that we'll get that joke out.
Cindy Overton
Burleson, Texas, and it's apparently a quiet neighborhood, but it's not so quiet anymore after police discovered that a 26 year old special needs man named Jonathan Kinman had been secretly buried in his own backyard. So the discovery happened on October 15 after Burleson Police received a tip from a concerned acquaintance who feared that Jonathan might be dead or hidden on his property. Officers first conducted a welfare check at the home on White Oak Lane where Jonathan lived with his mother. And his mother's name is December Marie Mitchell and the stepfather, Jonathan James Mitchell. When officers returned the next day with cadaver dogs, the animals quickly alerted near a section of disturbed soil behind the house. And then as investigators began to dig, December Mitchell was visibly nervous, and she suddenly blurted out, it was all me. The dog was going to find him on me. That's what she said, right? Detectives interpreted that statement as a spontaneous confession, and they believed that she meant she was responsible for burying her son and panicked when the dogs began honing in on the grave. Within minutes, officers uncovered a shallow grave, and inside, wrapped in a camouflage blanket, were the remains of Jonathan. Investigators say both December and her husband had told relatives and neighbors that Jonathan had died in a hospital and had been cremated. But when detectives checked with local hospitals and the Tarrant county medical examiner, there were no records to support that story. According to police affidavits, a couple appeared to have deliberately concealed Jonathan's death for months. And in their initial interviews, neither could explain when or how Jonathan had died. Authorities are still waiting for the autopsy results to determine his official cause of death. Both December and Jonathan were charged with tampering with physical evidence with the intent to impair a human corpse, a second degree felony under Texas law. And each were booked in the Torrant county jail on a $250,000 bond. Neighbors described the discovery as shocking. Many said they never knew that a young man even lived there. They had only seen the couple coming and going. So the case has obviously drawn outrage and heartbreak across Texas. Authorities continue to investigate the timeline of Jonathan's death and how long he was buried behind the home and whether additional charges can be added.
Woody Overton
Well, there you have it.
Cindy Overton
It's just sad.
Woody Overton
God. Yeah. I don't know. What do you do? Right. Obviously nothing. All right, well, you know, it wouldn't be a little Woody Overton if I didn't keep you updated on some executions. And boy, I tell you what, they've been laying them down this year across the United States. We're going to Huntsville, Texas. That's where they kill them and grill them. That, and I've actually been outside that building. I have not been in their death chamber, but been outside of the building going to interview another inmate. That should have got it. But anyway, Hunt. Huntsville, Texas, and a man was executed. And y', all, I've been letting these. These stack up for a little bit. So these are a little bit behind and. But I'm gonna give you the details. So this is published on September 25th in. In Huntsville, Texas. The Texas man was executed Thursday for killing his girlfriend's 13 month old daughter. Daughter in a torturous ordeal the couple said was part of an exorcism to expel the demon from the child's body. Now, told you a little bit about this story in the past, but I'm gonna tell you some more of it. Blaine Milam, who's 35, was pronounced dead at 6:40pm following that lethal injection at the state penitentiary in Huntsville. And he was condemned for the December 2008 death of Amora Carson at his trailer in Russ county in East Texas. Well, to give him his final say, what, what he had to say, he didn't say.
Cindy Overton
I'm sorry.
Woody Overton
He said, if any you would like to see me again, I implore all of you, no matter who you are, to accept Jesus Christ as your lord and savior. And we will meet again.
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Woody Overton
Bring me home, Jesus. Right. Okay. So then they begin to administer. The lethal dose of sedative phenobarbital flew into his right hand and arm. And at 6:19pm he grunted and gasped once. Then he began snoring quietly. After about two minutes, all sounds and movement stop. A minutes later, he was declared dead. Now this Woody Oton is going to tell you the rest of the story, you hear. Oh, yeah, well, you know, they kill the kid about an exorcism. Well, let me tell you why this dude was sent to meet his maker whether he knows Jesus or not. Not mind the judge, but. Oh. This was one of two executions carried out the same Day as. As Jeffrey west was put to death in Alabama with nitrogen and gas. We told you all about this one, too. Profataly shooting a gas station employee during the 1997 robbery. Then those two executions brought the total up to 33 for the year nationwide. Sorry, but let's go back to Mr. Milan, right? You get to know Jesus and get to see him again. Well, this baby girl didn't get to know Jesus, but Milan Milam had blame his girlfriend back then, Jessica Carson, for the killing and said she was the one who claimed the girl was possessed by a demon. She was tried separately and sentenced to life in prison without the possibility of parole after being convicted of capital murder for helping Milan. And they were both 18 at the time. But here's what happened. Prosecutors said Milam savagely beat the girl and also bit, strangled, and mutilated her over a period of 30 hours. Bit, strangled, and mutilated her. All right. The forensic pathologist who performed the autopsy found the child had multiple skull fractures along with broken arms. Plural, y'. All. That means both of them legs. Plural. That means both of them ribs. I don't know how many that means. And numerous bite marks. The pathologist testified a trial that he could not determine a specific cause of death because the girl had so many potentially fatal injuries.
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Woody Overton
Yeah, there's about 30 of them. Russ County District Attorney Michael Jemison, who tried a case along with the Texas Attorney General's office, told Associated Press by way back in 2019 that authorities initially treated Milam and Carson as grieving parents. But Carson later told investigators that Milam told her Amora was possessed by a demon because God was tired of her lying to him.
Cindy Overton
How old was this little girl again?
Woody Overton
Jemison said at the time he could still. He still couldn't pinpoint a motive, believing the exorcism claim. Exorcism claim was just a way for Milan Carson to cover up the crime. The prosecutor if I was prosecuted, I'd do the same thing. Witnessed execution said, we will never know what a Moore would have contributed to our world. Answering the call for justice for the most helpless is a measure of a civilized people. So. But among other observers was the child's grandfather. I'm not even gonna say his name. He declined to speak with the press. And to answer your question, my dear, the little girl was a whopping 13 months old.
Cindy Overton
That's what I remember.
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Woody Overton
13 months old.
Cindy Overton
How are you gonna lie at 13 months old? You can barely.
Woody Overton
You can't even talk. I mean, if you could Talk. You're doing well, right? You save some other and yes or no or abc.
Cindy Overton
I don't think you could.
Woody Overton
I mean that dude. You know what? I hope he found Jesus. I hope he's whatever. Whatever gets your boat and gets you through the day that you're gonna stick a needle in your arm. I wish they would have done exact same. I wish they had let bite him 30 times.
Cindy Overton
How do you go?
Woody Overton
You've been bit. It hurts.
Cindy Overton
Oh yeah?
Woody Overton
Yeah.
Cindy Overton
How do you go for 30 hours.
Woody Overton
On a 13 month old? I'm pretty sure they say meth is bad.
Cindy Overton
Yeah.
Woody Overton
Nothing else can keep you up that long, right?
Cindy Overton
Yeah.
Woody Overton
I mean, I don't know, but I'm assuming that's speculation. But him. Hashtag justice for Bradley. Hashtag just for ao. The patron convicts probably get it around Thursday, I would imagine. And all lifers will get it on Saturday. We are taking it to a different direction in a new level on the case this time. And some people's asses are going to be hurt because now I'm going to drop names or names will be dropped. And dare I'm saying otherwise. You want to clear yourself, come forward. I'd be happy to give you a polygraph. Yeah, right. And. But meanwhile, it seems like, you know, we had Lulabelle on and stuff like that the y'. All. I just can't. This is not a TV show. I've said it once, said it a thousand times. I can't, cannot tell you what I know. I don't tell Morgan Baggott what I know. She gets madder and hell at me, but I just can't. I'm not gonna up the investigation.
Cindy Overton
You don't tell me what you know.
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Woody Overton
I don't. And I'm not going to. So if it dies with me, then I guess it'd just be some crackhead gibberish or my story dies on me. According to Detective Vance.
Cindy Overton
That's right.
Woody Overton
Right.
Ad Host
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Woody Overton
They better be glad I don't tell everything that's been told to me.
Cindy Overton
Exactly. And you could.
Woody Overton
I could. You're right. And I might fucking do a wrap up episode. Play it all. The skies, all the voices and play the shit. I mean, and look, and I'll say it again. And you know who you are. I know you're listening. The mother that's listening out there, It's. There's another case. Dp And I'm not going to say when, what, where, why? Because I don't want them to know it's coming. Yeah, but it's just absolute fucking bullshit.
Cindy Overton
Yeah.
Woody Overton
Absolute bullshit. But anyway, and the reach.
Cindy Overton
I mean, more. More and more right now, because I do see the calls coming in on the tip line. I do not listen to them, but they're coming from everywhere, further and further and further away.
Woody Overton
All over the United States. Yes, all over the United States, y'. All. It's not just Vernon Parrish and the. They're calling and people have moved on in the past six years and stuff like that, and they're calling in and like, oh, this and this, this, and y', all, I appreciate all your calls. Keep them coming. Can never be too much. Can never be too little. It's. You know, we'll put it together.
Cindy Overton
Yeah.
Woody Overton
And holy smokes, the. As far as bringing Bradley home, it's a matter of legalities, but we'll get to that later on. All right. You got anything else?
Cindy Overton
No.
Woody Overton
All right, people. Happy anniversary, Sin. And congratulations on a successful show.
Cindy Overton
And thank you. Like what he said at the beginning of the show. Thank you to everyone that listens.
Woody Overton
Yeah, especially all the people that listen that aren't subscribers.
Cindy Overton
Exactly.
Woody Overton
They get in a ton of commercials. That's okay. That's business, y'.
Cindy Overton
All.
Woody Overton
This is business in the business.
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Woody Overton
We'll holler at y' all later. Love you. Peace.
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Anniversary Episode, Family Tragedy in Texas, and Justice System Challenges
Hosts: Woody Overton & Cindy Overton
Date: November 3, 2025
This special anniversary episode of “True Crime Time For” marks one year since Woody and Cindy Overton launched the weekly crime news show. The duo revisit crime stories from across the U.S., highlighting shocking family tragedies, juvenile justice failures, law enforcement encounters with violence, and the justice system’s ongoing challenges. With Woody’s trademark blend of blunt honesty, insider law enforcement insight, and dark humor, the conversational episode dives deep into the real-life impact of crime and punishment, and the gaps that allow pain to continue.
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The episode is a wide-ranging, emotionally charged, and often somber tour of stories that reveal the cracks and failures—both systemic and human—in American justice and social care. The Overtons’ personal and unfiltered approach delivers a raw emotional impact, while also offering insider police and true crime perspectives. Throughout, Woody and Cindy balance the horror with moments of humor and personal reflection, underlining their commitment to seeking justice and amplifying overlooked voices.
Happy Anniversary, RLRC. Here’s to another year of telling the truth behind real-life crime.