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Hello, everybody. Welcome to this episode of true crime. Time for Friday, October 10th, 2025. And I'm Woody Overton.
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I'm Cindy Overton.
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October 10th, otherwise known as a granddaughter will be here today day. It's a good day.
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It is. It's a 10 out of 10.
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It's a 10 out of ten on the grandparents scale day.
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October 10th.
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I got it.
C
Okay. I didn't know you were fine.
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That wasn't over my head. Okay.
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Sometimes I'm out there and you're like, where the did you come out?
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Well, you're definitely out there. And Bob won't comment on that.
C
You just did.
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I won't comment on it again that you're out there.
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You married me.
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That's true. The well, I'm just gonna shut up. So. The we have a grandbaby.
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I know.
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All right. That's gonna be awesome. Can't wait to see little embrace today. But we hope all y' all are gearing up for a great fall weekend. Lots of state fairs and stuff like that. Football season and cooler weather and just my favorite time of the year.
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I know. It's great.
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Outstanding. So let's get down to some true crime time for Friday, October 10th. What do you have?
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Planes trace. Starting off in Sugarland, Texas. Been there right back in the day. I remember when that was being developed. That was like the bougie place to be. Like, I don't know why they had. It was just a cool place to go and visit. But anyway.
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And where'd you go that was cool to visit? What made it cool?
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Sugarland. They had like, all the different bougie stores. They had the way it was saying.
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Bougie, but laymen like me don't even know what that means.
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Well, for me at that time, bougie was. They had a really cool. They had a really cool Barnes and Nobles with a Starbucks in it. I'm talking 30 years ago when I would go in from Laredo to Louisiana and I would. That's like the halfway point. I would stop there and like having a Starbucks. When you lived in Laredo, there's no coffee places and bookstores. Like, it was cool. And then the way they have it set up with the signs not having to be. They had to be at a certain level and everything was hidden in the trees and it was just a cool place to go.
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Okay, Sugar Land, Texas, the cool place to be.
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Thirty years ago on October 8, there was a gunfire that erupted on US 90 and Derry Ashford Road and police were called. Officers arrived to find a woman in her vehicle suffering from multiple gunshot wounds, and she was rushed to the hospital, but she didn't survive. Investigators say she was shot while driving. And although they thought the initially that the incident was road rage, they found out soon that it was not. As the investigation unfolded, authorities discovered that this was not random, that the woman and the shooter had been in a relationship. And police were now believing that the shooting was targeted. But the shooting didn't end there. Roughly 30 minutes later, at about 1:30pm Gunfire erupted again. And this time it was in southwest Houston, about 20 miles away at a mechanic shop on the 13,000 block of Fondren Road. And two men were shot and killed there. One was a mechanic and another was a bystander who had been recording with his phone when the shooting began. Then around 2pm Police found a vehicle parked along Creek Bend Drive just a few miles away.
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Somebody's just shooting up everything.
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Exactly. They went on a shooting spree, and inside they discovered the gunman dead from a self inflicted gunshot wound. In total, four people lost their lives, of course, the woman in Sugarland and the two men in Houston, and the shooter himself. And authorities say the same suspect is responsible for for all three shootings, describing the violence as part of a connected domestic related spree that obviously spanned multiple crime scenes in under an hour. But no names have been released.
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Wow.
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I know.
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Just kill them all.
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Yep.
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And what a fucking asshole. You know, I don't get it. Just kill people, you know, because you don't like them and you're pissed off at your ex or whatever. Just kill a whole bunch of people in the cool place to the bougie place to be 30 years ago.
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Geez Louise. Woody.
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So. All right, here's one for you. Short but intense. Going to Miami, Florida, and the Miami Police Department Special Victims Unit, or Otherwise known as SVU arrested a 21 year old man for. Wait for it. Sex crimes involving children and animals. 21 years old. He's got a long, distinguished prison career coming up. So the Miami Police Department Special Victims Unit arrested Usher Joshua Pittman and then he. They rearrested him on two counts of capital sexual battery involving the same minor victim, which they said was an infant about 2 to 3 months old. Now, this arrest took place after an ongoing investigation that began with Pittman's original arrest for a similar offense against an 8 year old child in a Miami neighborhood. After the initial arrest, the SVU detectives said they investigated a cyber tip from the national center for Missing and Exploited Children. Officials said the tip led to the discovery of child sexual abuse material found on Pittman's cell phone and laptop, which resulted in the. The additional charges. Right. Detectives said they found more than 100 images depicting various instances of child sexual abuse, including bestiality. Bro, that's like a. That's like the parlay of all parlays. Yeah. Detective said they reviewed four SE videos uncovering evidence of additional horrific acts against a three month old victim in what appeared to be Pitman's bedroom, Officials said. That victim is now 11 months old. Officials said the videos were recorded between February and March of this year. And detectives said they contact once once they saw the video. Right. They contacted the mother of the victim who confirmed that the victim was her child and at the room seen in the video was Pitman's. The mother told police she would leave her child with Pittman's mother from time to time when she had to work, Authorities said Pittman now faces two counts of capital sexual battery along with other charges related to the 11 month old victim. Officials said the investigation is ongoing and anyone with additional information related to the case is urged to contact Miami Police Department's SBU at 305-603-6300 or Crime Stoppers of Made Day, Miami Dade and the Florida keys anonymously at 305-471-TIPS. Wow, that's 21 years old. That's hope, you know, at least that this doesn't really matter, but the baby won't remember it. Yeah, three months old, but it's just up. And I don't even want to let my brain go to how the bestiality got involved with the three month Old.
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No, no.
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Burn in hell. In Miami, we know Florida has death penalty, but he won't get it because it's not under the statute. And just for rape, raping babies, which it should be.
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I mean, what would it take? Raping babies isn't enough.
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I'm not a lawmaker in Florida. Can't tell you that.
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That's sickening. That that's not enough.
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No, Al, it should be enough. They should take him old school out in the street. I can cut his nuts off and shove him down his throat, literally. It's time for family matters.
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Going to New Hampshire for this one.
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New Hampshire. The Granite State, I think. And is New Hampshire the Granite State, or is that Connecticut?
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The answer I found is the Granite State.
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Got it right.
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White Mountains.
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Yay.
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Switzerland of America.
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I want to go there.
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You go.
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So you just tell me. Just put me on an airplane and say we're going to land. You can't buy and fold me and just tell me we're in Switzerland and I'll believe you.
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I tell you, you're going to be Sugar Land.
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Oh, my go. That's like a core memory for me. I thought it was so cool to get to go there.
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Obviously told us how bougie it was.
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It was at the time, for me, that was bougie. There's a 19 year old. I don't want to call him a man, but. Male Eric Sweeney. And he was sentenced on October 3 to 60 years to life in prison for the murders of his brother's wife, Cassandra, who was 25, and her two children, Benjamin, who was 4, and Mason, who was 23 months old. The crime actually happened on August 3rd of 2022, and Eric was actually living with his brother and his wife in their home in Northfield, New Hampshire. Investigators say Eric Sweeney used one of his brother's firearms to shoot all three victims in what prosecutors called an execution style killing. When police arrived, they found Cassandra and the children dead. Eric initially tried to claim that the three that there had been a break in, but investigators quickly ruled that out. Security footage, police ballistic evidence, and the absence of forced entry also pointed directly to Eric. What is really sad about this case is three years earlier, when Eric was 13, his older brother Sean, which was Cassandra's husband, filed for emergency guardianship to take him into his home to get him out of his where he was at. Court records show the teen had endured years of neglect and abuse from his biological mother, who struggled with addiction and exposed him to unsafe environments. At the time, Shawn and Cassandra wanted to give Him a stable home, food and safety. But by 2022, the household had become strained. Defense filings revealed ongoing conflict over Eric's behavior and increasing tension between him and the couple. And prosecutors said Cassandra and Sean had been discussing plans to have Eric move out of their home. And that conversation is what they believe triggered the violent outburst. So Eric was charged with three counts of first degree murder. But in 2025, he reached a plea agreement, admitting guilt to second degree murder in exchange for avoiding a life without parole sentence. During sentencing, the judge emphasized the calculated nature of the crime and betrayal of trust it represented. And the courtroom heard powerful victim impact statements from family members. You know, describing Cassandra and the kids. But he will be up for parole in his late 60s if he maintains good behavior and completes education requirements while incarcerated.
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I hate to even think about him getting out, you know, I mean, you take a plea deal like that, it's like Denny Perkins took 99 years just because that may can't appeal it because he took a plea bargain. But I guess he and his brain. 99 years is better in multiple licenses, right?
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I don't think he did it out of the goodness of his heart to spare the children.
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No, he did it because in his brain that at least there's a chance he might live to be 150 years old. Or however old he is. Him and that dude, too.
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Yep.
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All right, going to floor. Well, part of this is in Florida. The arrested place in Florida. Do you remember last year, the. The fires around Los Angeles? Yes, and they says the most destructive inferno in Los Angeles history, which charred a devastating path through the Pacific Palisades in Malibu in early January. But it was.
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Actually a flare up fire, not an Uber driver, had intentionally set days earlier. In this court of federal prosecutors, Jonathan rendering render neck, 29, is accused of starting the fire on New Year's Day that rekindled to become the Palisades fire days later. Now they just got him arrested on Wednesday in Florida and then charged him with destruction of property by means of fire which, which carries a minimum of five years in federal prison. It's not enough. Among the evidence collected from Renderneck's digital devices was a dystopia image he generated on ChatGPT which showed a burning city with people trying to flee. That's according to the U.S. attorney. Render Neck called 911 to report the fire. Then being the good fellow that he is, he offered to help the firefighters firefighters battle the blaze. Right.
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Such a good guy.
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Yeah. And this is all an affidavit. Affidavit with the. By that bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms and Explosive. Now prosecutors say that they accused Render Neck of lying about where he was when he made his first 911 call. They said while we cannot undo the damage and destruction that was done, we hope his arrest and the charges against him bring some measure of justice to the victims of this horrific tragedy. Well, it's, it's not even over. Let me tell you about all the damage. The federal prosecution affirms a long suspected theory among fire experts and comes after a nine month probe into the cause of the Palisades fire which charred 23, 400 acres and destroyed leveled more than 6,800 structures including many homes and 12 people died in the fires.
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He gets five years.
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Five years. I, five years.
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I don't.
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That's the California there. I'm sorry, California. But the then and this calls all kinds of about, you know, the Los Angeles Fire Department, the governor and the failure to pre deploy engines to the Palisades fire and blah blah blah and all that but it doesn't matter. This, this set the fire and then hey, he's a good dude because he offered to help the firefighters fight. Probably he, if they go back and look, he tried to become a firefighter and they told him to go himself. Say he just wanted to be a hero, kill 12 people. And I mean killing 12 people is bad. But we know how. What it's like to lose a home.
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Yeah, yeah, exactly.
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And everybody's displaced. And he just up everything.
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Yeah, everything.
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And he gets five years that his mom was proud.
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It's disgusting. Well, you know it's decoration time, right?
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Yeah. Unfortunately, I didn't know that.
C
How many decorations do you see in our house?
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I don't pay attention unless it's a throw pillow.
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Zero. I have zero decorations up.
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Don't mean you don't have any. No, I got bins out there in the garage full of decorations. It's like 20 bins, y'. All. It's a whole huge wall. Runs a full car garage. And every one of them stuff with decorations.
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That is a lie. That is a complete lie.
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90% of it.
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That is a. Another complete lie.
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Yeah. You want me to go out there and count them now?
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Do a video?
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No, I don't need to. I know I put them in there. I know what's in there, but go ahead. Decoration time.
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A man named Stephen Markham, who's 58 years old, has recently been arrested after placing a Halloween display in his yard that depicted fake bodies labeled as local government officials.
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He put their names on them.
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Oh, yes. Or this happened on October 4th. The display included five effigies wrapped in garbage bags, one of which hanging and labeled District judge with a rope around its neck. Other titles included mayor, zoning manager, county attorney and district judge.
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And. But he had their name on like so. Yes, I understand the official title, but did he have their physical human name?
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No, it just had their titles.
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Okay.
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He's charged with intimidating a participant in the legal process and third degree terroristic threatening. He's actually being held at Powell County Detention center on a $5,000 bond. And his arraignment has been postponed because the district judge recused himself from the case. He has been involved in a long dispute with the city of Stanton over zoning ordinance violations, lack of legal utilities, possible fire hazard, etc. And some of these issues are tied to the timing of when this display was erected. No additional charges or court decisions beyond the arraignment, postponement have been reported. But I guess just.
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Yeah, let me tell you this. The. They're going to have a hell of a time prosecuting that. And some civil rights attorney is just wanting to jump on that bandwagon and give him a free defense because I don't know what the legality is. I mean, I understand he's involved in this with them and all that. The legality of hanging people in effigy and putting judge or. Or mayor or whatever on it, but not their name. I'm pretty sure it's America. You can put whatever you want in your. But I'll tell a story. We had this crazy Henry Lockhart and I used to deal with him all the time, but it was actually Billy Amy that got in trouble this time. Henry put up a big ass sign on Highway 16 right in the middle of the high traffic area. But it was his property. Yeah, big sign. You know what the sign said? I don't know. Free.
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What?
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Yep, free. Big sign. So Billy was a young cop and he's like, whoa, no, no, no, no. Say turn around. Uniform in. He's in his mark unit. Turn around, goes over there and. And gets. Y' all look. This guy was. I gotta do an old school woody story just on this dude. Because he would just. He would call 911 every night and her dispatch was finally just gonna arrest this. Right? Because he's calling up saying stupid. But so Billy goes to his trailer and. And gets him out and it's like, hey, you gotta take that sign down. And he was like, no, I don't. He's like, yes, you do or I'm gonna take your ass to jail. So he went and took it down. But then he. He was famous for going in and complaining. He went in and complained and guess what? Not only did Billy have to go back over there and apologize, he had to put the sign back up for him because he was giving away free kittens. But he knew what he was doing when he said free. Yeah, and I won't say who because she's deceased now, but they were doing a toy drive and almost say, well, whatever, for obvious reasons. And the highest ranking law enforcement official in the parish was there with his wife and he. They were giving away some free kittens and his wife is now deceased, was holding the kid and all his deputies were standing around him and he walked up and he said, and he knows they knew him by name, right? He walked up and said, hey, Ms. Such, that sure is a pretty pussy you got there. Well, the highest ranking law enforcement official in Paris proceeded to pick him up and body slam him and said, take this.
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Yeah, yeah.
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He's just crazy like that. Yeah, but it's so back to it. I mean, if I want to hang Trump. Well, probably not the president, they might have a law about that. But if I want to hang a body in front yard, a fake body and put wife the governor. No, that wouldn't do any good. They probably give me Accolades for that. The I want to put governor and I'm pretty sure you can't come on my property and with me. Yeah, yeah.
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It's just this governor.
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Right. I mean it's America.
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Yeah.
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So I'm not making a personal threat, but anyway. But the. I'm pretty sure that they actually didn't give a and they know it's going to get thrown out and that's okay by them. But he had to go to jail anyway. And I'm not going to say swim. Never use that tactic before. I'm like, pretty sure you're going to be discharged where you can go yourself because you're going to jail.
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Yeah.
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You're going to have to bond out. I'm towing your and all that.
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Yeah.
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All right, let's go to. It's time for effed up professionals. All right. We are going to Staten Island. All right. And the cops kept getting calls. They actually call them desperate pleas for help. A batch of desperate pleas for help repeatedly drew cops to stat to a Staten island horror house. In the years before a guy they're calling twisted teen Damien herself. They kept getting calls out there before this twisted teen Damien herself decapitated his mom's boyfriend inside the house. So the gorely dismembered Bo, the mama's boyfriend, 45 year old city department of sanitation worker Anthony Kalispell Kalispo had been listed as the alleged perpetrator in at least five domestic violence related 911 calls from the West Brighton home which started in 2021. In the most recent report in 2023, sources said that callous pro allegedly drunkenly attacked her still before slapping the teen's mom. You get where I'm going with this? The, the, this dude. The 45 year old sanitation worker kept beating on mom and the son had enough and cut his head off. So the attack unfolded after the cops had told the aggressively inebriated man to leave the home earlier that day. All right, let's talk about that. If I got sent out on 911 domestic violence call, somebody's leaving, whether they were leaving in handcuffs or they were leaving voluntarily. And my deal was I'm not coming back twice after I had to go back twice a couple times and you know, escalate and somebody gets shit beat out of them, even if it wasn't physical marks the first time. Right. I'm like, no, motherfucker, somebody's leaving. Right. They least try to diffuse it. Well, cops didn't make him leave. Well, they, they told him to leave the home early and he did, but he returned. And neighbors on on the street said that they witnessed distressing incidents spilling out of the Cary Avenue home, including one in which her sales mother suffered a broken leg. Now, nothing says a little domestic violence like breaking the motherfucker's legs. I might break your legs later, but the neighbor said she was screaming and I never heard anyone scream like that. She was on the ground, her leg was bent the wrong way. And I said, do you want me to call 911? And the boyfriend said, no, you're fine. You're fine. Oh my. If you see my body with a broken leg, call 911. Right?
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Yeah.
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But during the first alleged domestic violence incident in 2021, the mother told cops her boyfriend was drunkenly breaking things in their home and he had a handgun, but they never found it. So callous pro who was forced to go on disability because of severe vision loss. One of his close friends told this that also had a criminal record going back to 2000 when he was arrested on suspicion of selling drugs. Right. So his other offenses including possessing a gravity knife. I don't even know what that is. In 2015 in a 2020 assault and reckless driving incident, the the troubled Herale was also the subject of mental health calls to the home. His mother to tell my her son. His mother told 911 operators that he threatened suicide going back to 2022 and and once cut his hands multiple times. Now her still and the mother and other family members declined to comment. But her still chopped off Kalisp head. Wow. Don't with mama.
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Yeah.
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Maybe he'll get, you know, some insanity time.
C
Sounds like he might need it.
B
Yeah. I'm not saying don't with mama. If somebody was beating on mama, I could cut their head off and get away with. I probably would.
C
Yeah. But didn't he go through a spell also where he cut his hands and stuff like that?
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Yeah. That might lean towards insanity. That's where I was going.
C
Yeah.
B
But anyway, that happens. The. I don't know. He did it, cut it off. That's. That's pretty gruesome thing. I've seen it and it's a pretty gruesome thing. Also takes some force.
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I. Yeah, I can only imagine. And yes, I can only imagine if someone effed with your mama.
B
Yep. They'd be in trouble.
C
They would be.
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It's time for effed up professionals.
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We're kind of staying in the same area. We're going to New Jersey, though.
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Jersey.
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We're going to an actual, like, base in New Jersey. It's a Joint Base McGuire Dixon Lakehurst.
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Okay.
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A civilian naval employee has now confessed to staging an active shooter hoax at Joint Base McGuire Dixon Lakehurst in New Jersey. On Tuesday morning, the sprawling military installation went into lockdown when a text message arrived claiming there were five to six gunshots and that the sender of the text messages was hiding in a closet. With coworkers, workers in response, base personnel, service members, and civilian scrambled into cover, uncertain if this was real or a.
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Yeah, it's not exactly the. The thing you want to do in this date and time.
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No. But after nearly an hour, officials gave the all clear. They couldn't find a shooter, they couldn't find those shots, and they just couldn't find anything to substantiate the text messages.
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Right.
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At first, the employee that they found that they let this. That sent the text message, sent the text messages. Denied creating the hoax. But prosecutors say upon reviewing timestamps and call logs, investigators discovered inconsistencies the time that timeline didn't match up with the claims. According to the criminal complaint, she ultimately admitted she had fabricated the whole thing. She claimed she felt ostracized at work and hoped to trauma bond in quotations with her co workers by creating a shared experience of fear.
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Yeah.
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Her name is Malika Brittingham, and she's a civilian employee with the Naval Air Warfare center assigned to the base. And she's now facing federal charges for knowingly conveying false information about firearms at a federal Facility authorities didn't take it lightly, obviously. The Acting U.S. attorney in New Jersey called it senseless fear mongering, vowing strong legal action against anyone who causes unnecessary panic and undermines public trust. But this base spans 42,000 acres and hosts over 42,000 personnel, family members and civilian employees, which combines the operations of Air Force, army and Navy. That's just crazy. I'm going to trauma bond with you.
B
Yeah, she didn't want to go to work that day probably, you know, but you, you call in the an active shooter threat, you're going to jail. Yeah, they're going to find out, right. As they did in this, this case. And yeah, that's what it is. It's time for beast mode. Do you have to think about stadiums like Tiger Stadium or. Which holds over a hundred thousand people, no roof. I'm talking about stadiums with no roofs on them. Baseball stadiums, football stadiums, whatever. What do you think would be the major upkeep on the stadium uncovered? Bird poo? Absolutely. You're absolutely right. How do you think they battle that? This really tripped me. I, I knew about this because I watched like a documentary.
C
Do they put something around the stadium to make the birds not fly around it? Power washers?
B
I don't know. They, most of them actually have trained professional hulks that kill the pigeons that fly over.
C
I said, do they have something around the stadium?
B
You meant like an electric fence or something? Well, so let's go to SOFI Stadium, which is an NFL stadium for the Los Angeles Rams. And they got that problem bird poop. Nobody wants to come in and sit down and you're, you know, $300 seat bird poop on their ass. Right. For the games. And so, so far, stadium had two hawks train to. I mean, I'm pretty sure it's like a visual turn also. I mean, that's not like they just kill birds all the time, just flying around. Based on. We got hawks in the field out here. If the hawks in the field, the doves don't come right. Like they know, they go get that assayed.
C
Yeah.
B
So anyway, the sofa stadium had at least two hawks. And guess what? Somebody stole them.
C
How do you steal a hawk?
B
I don't know. So one of the two hogs stolen from the SOFI stadium during the NFL game last week has been found, but the cops are still searching for the other. Now, the hawks, which are trained and employed by the Los Angeles area stadium to keep other birds away during football games, went missing on September 28th as the Los Angeles Rams beat the Indianapolis Colts 27 to 20. Now one of the missing Hawks. Three guesses what the name is. I even go so far and tell you it starts with a B.
C
Bob Qi Billy Qi Buster.
B
Nope. So one of the hawks missing hawks name was Bubba. That would be. I was close with Bob Boba More some southern right? Not California. But the Bubba was found in Hosi in the Heights by a homeowner who spotted him in their backyard. Including recording NBC 4 Los Angeles he said this dude said I made arrangements, got over there as quick as I could and got Bubba back. Charles Cogger, the bird's owner. Cogger noted that finding Bubba gave him the hope that they would soon find the other one. Starts an A.
C
Does it go with Bubba? Just go and Annabelle Elise.
B
Oh, it's A, A, L, I, C, E. Alice. Alice.
C
Oh shoot.
B
How about that? What a chance of that. You should have bought a Powerball ticket. So he found Bubba. That gave him hope that they would soon find Alice, the other missing raptor. Bubba's condition upon his return was not immediately known. I don't know what the that means. I mean the birds alive or not. But Cogger was initially told by police that the two birds were found dead in bags, but later learned the dead birds were actually quills which were used to feed the hulks. Oh, gosh.
C
I think there's a big difference between a quail and a hog, right?
B
Well, maybe not. To the Los Angeles police officers, this shock and theft occurred shortly after 2pm on September 28 when a Maroon 2 seat Kawasaki utility task vehicle. That's short for saying one of those little piece piece of bubble trucks literally carrying the two birds was stolen from near the stadium's lake area. That's according to Englewood Police Department. The birds aren't mascots for the team, but rather work to ensure that all football games at the stadiums go on without a hitch. The two hawks are typically deployed by handler to deter other birds from flying down into the stadium during an event. I've seen that too. The keep them off the field but really they don't want to say to keep them from shitting on people.
C
Yeah.
B
Anyway, Harris hawks are not considered threatened or endangered, though Raptors are protected under the Migratory Bird Treaty act, which prohibits harassment or hunting of these birds. Ooh, I should be shooting hawks. They're just teasing positive cops. I don't do that. The every time I see a hog when I hunt, I kill some.
C
Yeah.
B
Or a deer. Yeah. Because they're out there hunting too. I I actually will watch them they call them hawkeyes. And I can be sitting in the stand if I'm still not, like, landing a tree right next to me. And they're scanning to feel the holes. I'm waiting to scoop down and get them a rabbit or whatever. Or mice. Like, when I bush hog these fields, they. You'll see over a hundred mice. Yeah, they run out of the tall grass that you cut off. That's. That's one that you don't run over. But the grass is taller than the tractor anyway. The migratory bird treaty act, which prohibits harassment or hunting these birds. And they have broad wings, long tails with dark bands, white tips, and brown shoulder patches. Now, witnesses saw a Suspect drive the UTV off of SoFi Stadium property. And it was last seen at the century village shopping area. But those people consider that to be bougie a little over a mile away, police says. Authorities describe the suspect as a black man wearing a black shirt and a jacket with white. A white stripe down the shoulder, as well as black pants and the black shoes. Well, he likes black. Police are asking the public to come forward with any information about the stolen birds or the suspected thief. The independent is the world's most. That's about the newspaper. So I'm pretty sure this dude didn't know there were hawks in the back of the. The truck. He just wants to steal it and get to the bougie shopping center as fast as he could.
C
You think so?
B
Yep. Maybe he. He just happened to look in the back and see there was a box, and, like, maybe this is something I could steal. And he opened and Hulk said flew out and scared the. Out of him. I wonder what pride Hulk tastes like. Probably like dark meat on chicken.
C
Yeah.
B
So there you have it. That's a crime time for this Friday, and we love and appreciate each and every one of y'.
C
All.
B
Do you have anything else, Sin?
C
I do have a question about when. When the hawk. When were the hawks stolen? Prior to the game or during the game?
B
You didn't listen when I was talking.
C
I did, but I was kind of distracted by other things.
B
By being bougie.
C
Yeah.
B
Do you remember they went missing on September 28th as the Rams beat. So it was stolen during the game.
C
So I wonder if any guy anybody got poo pooed on if they weren't there doing their job.
B
I don't know. That's pondering. Minds want to know.
C
Also want to know if their employee. How much. That's what distracted me. Their employees, how much did they get paid for the service?
B
How would you know that the. The. I think there's some pretty out there job titles, but if you are the Hulk Master at a stadium, that's probably his title. What do you do for a living? I'm a Hulk master. What does that entail? Like, my birds eat birds. That. On people and interrupt TV play by. You don't have to chase a pigeon around the field right on camera. It's true.
C
I know. Okay.
B
I don't know that mean. I guess they could put nets and shit over the stadium, but they have to be small. Then it might obstruct the view of the Los Angeles sky, which is half the reason people live in California. Because of weather.
C
Yes.
B
Right.
C
Yep.
B
We are about to get some California weather.
C
California brought it with him.
B
That's right. Grandbaby coming today. All right, so that being said, we're getting the f file off the microphone. We're gonna go have some granddaughter time.
C
Yes.
B
And we love and appreciate each. Every one of y'. All. Hashtag just for Bradley and AO this week, y'. All. Wow. Okay. You gotta. Well, you don't have to be from Burning Parish. It's very interesting. We're going with a different angle because. And I'll explain it for the episode. We're open to all angles, but this is a lot. And if there's a quarter of an ounce, I know the people in Vernon, Paris will be like, I know what that is. I know what that is. So. And I, believe it or not, have you used this? At one point in time, it actually turned the case around from the direction where we're going. So y' all tune into that and hashtag, just Miss Barber Blind just for Haley is coming. And Patreon convicts, thank you for your support and thank you to our sponsors. Well, getting out of here. I got nothing else to say. Holl at you later. Peace.
From Child Exploitation in Miami to Arson in California
Hosts: Woody Overton & Cyndi Overton
Release Date: October 10, 2025
In this gripping episode of "True Crime Time For," Woody and Cyndi Overton take listeners on a whirlwind tour through shocking true crime stories across the U.S. The duo covers a Texas shooting spree, an appalling child exploitation case in Miami, a devastating California arson, and other chilling tales ranging from domestic homicide in New Hampshire to bizarre bird heists at an NFL stadium. Listeners are treated to both Woody’s law enforcement insight and the couple’s candid, bantering rapport—with sharp opinions, emotional commentary, and moments of dark humor.
[03:59 – 06:12]
Memorable Quote:
“Somebody’s just shooting up everything.”
— Cyndi Overton (05:34)
Woody’s Take:
“What a fucking asshole. You know, I don't get it. Just kill people, you know, because you don't like them and you're pissed off at your ex or whatever… in the cool place to the bougie place to be 30 years ago.”
— Woody Overton (06:16)
[06:40 – 10:38]
Woody’s Commentary:
“Burn in hell… In Miami, we know Florida has death penalty, but he won’t get it because it’s not under the statute. And just for rape, raping babies, which it should be.”
— Woody Overton (10:12)
[10:57 – 14:52]
Notable Commentary:
“He will be up for parole in his late 60s if he maintains good behavior and completes education requirements while incarcerated.”
— Cyndi Overton (14:44)
[15:29 – 25:26]
Woody’s Take:
“He just up everything… and he gets five years that his mom was proud.”
— Woody Overton (25:33, 25:43)
[26:33 – 32:23]
Woody’s Insight:
“They’re going to have a hell of a time prosecuting that… If I want to hang a body in my front yard, a fake body and put wife the governor… I'm pretty sure you can't come on my property and with me. Yeah, yeah.”
— Woody Overton (28:16, 31:45)
[32:18 – 38:54]
Memorable Exchange:
“Don’t with mama.”
— Woody Overton (37:10)
“Yeah. But didn’t he go through a spell also where he cut his hands and stuff like that?... That might lean towards insanity.”
— Cyndi Overton & Woody Overton (38:28–38:36)
[39:13 – 42:14]
Woody’s Conclusion:
“You call in an active shooter threat, you’re going to jail. Yeah, they’re going to find out, right. As they did in this case.”
— Woody Overton (42:14)
[43:20 – 52:17]
Fun Banter & Quotes:
“If you are the Hawk Master at a stadium, that’s probably his title. What do you do for a living? I’m a Hawk master.”
— Woody Overton (51:12)
“Do you think anybody got poo-pooed on if they weren’t there doing their job?”
— Cyndi Overton (50:58)
On Criminal Motivation
“He did it because in his brain that at least there’s a chance he might live to be 150 years old. Or however old he is...”
— Woody Overton (15:18)
On Law vs. Justice
“It’s disgusting. Well, you know it’s decoration time, right?”
— Cyndi Overton (25:43—transitioning from outrage at sentencing to domestic banter)
On Mental Health & Violence
“That might lean towards insanity... But anyway, that happens. The. I don't know. He did it, cut it off. That's a pretty gruesome thing. I've seen it and it's a pretty gruesome thing. Also takes some force.”
— Woody Overton (38:36)
On Bird Control at Stadiums
“Most of them actually have trained professional hawks that kill the pigeons that fly over... nobody wants to come in and sit down and you’re, you know, $300 seat bird poop on their ass.”
— Woody Overton (43:28, 44:28)
On Offbeat Jobs
“If you are the Hawk Master at a stadium, that's probably his title... My birds eat birds that sh*t on people and interrupt TV play by... you don't have to chase a pigeon around the field right on camera.”
— Woody Overton (51:12)
| Segment | Timestamps |
|-----------------------------------------------------|-------------|
| Grandparents’ banter, episode theme intro | 01:13–02:36 |
| Sugar Land, TX—shooting spree | 03:59–06:12 |
| Miami, FL—infant sexual abuse case | 06:40–10:38 |
| NH—family triple homicide & sentencing | 10:57–14:52 |
| Palisades Fire, CA—arson and aftermath | 15:29–25:26 |
| Kentucky—Halloween effigies & legal gray area | 26:33–32:23 |
| Staten Island, NY—domestic violence beheading | 32:18–38:54 |
| NJ—active shooter hoax for workplace “bonding” | 39:13–42:14 |
| LA—SoFi Stadium, hawk theft (NFL bird control) | 43:20–52:17 |
A chilling, wide-ranging true crime episode with personal flair, dark humor, and unfiltered insight from a cop-turned-storyteller and his down-to-earth co-host.