True Crime Time For October 15, 2025 | Ambulance Abuse, Murdered Children, and a Doctor’s Dark Double Life

Summary

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Real Life Real Crime: True Crime Time For October 15, 2025

Episode: Ambulance Abuse, Murdered Children, and a Doctor’s Dark Double Life
Hosts: Woody Overton & Cyndi Overton
Release Date: October 15, 2025

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Episode Theme & Overview

In this chilling, sometimes darkly humorous episode, Woody and Cyndi Overton delve into recent true crime stories from around the world, ranging from egregious misconduct of professionals to deeply disturbing family tragedies. With their characteristic banter and investigative insight, they unpack cases of ambulance worker abuse, child murders, violent disputes among delivery drivers, refugees caught in senseless violence, and the shocking double life of a respected doctor. Each story is approached with empathy for the victims and biting commentary for the perpetrators—delivering a riveting mix of news, analysis, and the hosts’ Southern-brand storytelling.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Ambulance Worker Abuse in London

Timestamps: [03:46–05:59]

• Story: An unnamed London ambulance worker violently shoved an amputee patient from his wheelchair and then tried to bribe him to keep quiet.
• Outcome: Worker was suspended and later dismissed after a tribunal found his actions involved gross abuse of trust.
• Notable Context: The victim displayed “remarkable courage” in coming forward despite fears of retaliation. The incident ignited public debate about oversight in emergency medical services.

Memorable Moment:

"What kind of person has to get off on pushing an amputee out of his wheelchair to the ground?"
— Cyndi Overton [06:04]

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2. Courtroom Antics & the London Motorbike Murder

Timestamps: [06:41–12:34]

• Woody’s courtroom anecdote: Relays an incident where a defendant refused to attend a virtual hearing for a chicken sandwich—a segue to the next crime.
• Case: Josh Eno was convicted of murdering Rico Andrews after a dispute over a stolen £20,000 BMW motorbike. Eno refused to leave his cell for sentencing.
• Victim Impact: Rico’s mother described him as having “the best sense of humor,” lamenting the senselessness of his death at 21 over a stolen bike.
• Judicial Frustration: Judges often face delays when defendants refuse to appear, but, as Woody notes, “The wheels of justice turn a little bit slower...but they're still turning.”

Quote:

"Just because you're not going to show up don’t mean we’re not going to sentence you, right?"
— Woody Overton [08:36]

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3. Triple Child Murder in Bristol, England

Timestamps: [12:54–16:34]

• Case Details: Yasmina Ali is charged with murdering her three children (ages 7, 3, and 9 months) by stabbing them in February 2024.
• Background: The family was seen as ordinary and peaceful, and the tragedy rocked the local community.
• Pending Motive: Ali’s mental health is expected to be a critical factor in her trial.

Community Reaction:
Neighbors posted messages like “Rest easy, little angels” and “why?” outside the home [14:40].

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4. USPS Worker Shot by Rival Delivery Driver (Washington State)

Timestamps: [46:53–50:10]

• Story: A routine Friday USPS mail delivery turns tragic when the postal worker is shot in the face during a confrontation, possibly with an Amazon driver.
• Aftermath: The injured carrier is hospitalized in critical condition; community members are shocked and heartbroken.

Memorable Banter:

"Neither rain, sleet, snow or shine until the Amazon man shoot your ass."
— Woody Overton [50:10]

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5. Refugee Teenager Stabbed in Huddersfield, England

Timestamps: [50:46–54:35]

• Victim: Ahmad Al Ibrahim, a 16-year-old Syrian refugee, is fatally stabbed by Alfie Franco after accidentally brushing past Franco’s girlfriend in a crowd.
• Context: Franco was intoxicated and high on multiple substances. The attack was ruled “targeted and senseless” by Judge Martin Spencer.
• Sentence: Franco receives life with a minimum term of 23 years.

Quote:

"You robbed a young man of his future. And for what? A moment of petty anger."
— Judge Martin Spencer (quoted by Cyndi) [53:18]

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6. Food Stamp Card Murder in Amarillo, Texas

Timestamps: [54:43–60:02]

• Crime: A 57-year-old man from Congo is beaten to death by three attackers for his EBT (food stamp) card; the suspects fled in a BMW.
• Woody’s Commentary: Wonders at the pettiness of killing for such a small sum, “rolling in a BMW,” and underlines the bleak state of society.

Quote:

"He lost it either way."
— Woody Overton, on the victim being robbed and killed for his EBT card [60:00]

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7. Substitute Teacher on Cocaine in Vermont

Timestamps: [61:01–68:22]

• Incident: Melissa Martin, a substitute teacher, is cited when found in possession of cocaine and acting erratically in class—at one point confusing a student for her dog.
• Immediate Action: Removed from school; parents demand increased drug testing.

Woody’s Quip:

"Nothing like being a teacher to get yourself through the day on your salary. Hitting the line."
[66:52]

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8. The Doctor with a Dark Double Life (Amity Township, Pennsylvania)

Timestamps: [75:20–80:58]

• Perpetrator: Dr. Justin Rutherford, a respected physician and family man, is exposed as a predator installing hidden cameras in his home’s bathroom.
• Crimes: Sexual abuse of stepchildren, video voyeurism, and plotting from jail to have his stepson murdered.
• Outcome: Sentenced to up to 80 years in prison; medical license revoked.

Cyndi’s Summary:

"He was a man who wore two faces. One a trusted father and family man, and another a manipulative predator piece of shit."
[79:45]

Woody’s Unfiltered Justice:

"They should stick a shank in his ass for raping kids. Which is what they should do. ... Am I condoning violence? Yeah, I actually am. On him."
[80:51]

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9. Banter, Life, and Reflections

Timestamps: [81:15–84:01]

• Woody and Cyndi’s dynamic closes the episode with personal anecdotes about Halloween decorations, the pressures and joys of running their podcast business, and the toll heavy stories can take.

Cyndi to Woody:

"Why are you sweet about me when I'm not here, but when I'm here, you tease me?"
[82:26]

Woody’s closing:

"Anyway, we love y' all and we're blessed to have the business. And thank you again for our sponsors on Patreon and Convicts and all y' all and like and share and all that good podcaster. And enjoy this little bit of cooler weather. Right?"
[83:39]

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Notable Quotes & Moments

• "Kind of needs to be punched in the mouth." — Woody Overton on the ambulance worker [06:14]
• "Almost nothing shocks me anymore, which is a sad thing, I guess." — Woody Overton [16:47]
• "Delivering packages? You’re not in a drug cartel." — Woody Overton on the postal worker shooting [50:21]
• "That’s disgusting. ... Some people better find a higher power." — Woody Overton, on the Amarillo food card murder [60:35]
• "You robbed a young man of his future. And for what? A moment of petty anger." — Judge Martin Spencer (via Cyndi) [53:18]
• "He committed all kinds of violence against that baby." — Woody Overton, on Dr. Rutherford [80:58]

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• [03:46] Ambulance Worker Abuse in London
• [06:41] London Motorbike Murder & Courtroom Antics
• [12:54] Bristol Child Murders
• [46:53] USPS Worker Shot in Washington State
• [50:46] Refugee Teen Stabbed in England
• [54:43] Amarillo EBT Card Murder
• [61:01] Vermont Substitute Teacher on Cocaine
• [75:20] Doctor’s Double Life and Sex Crimes
• [81:15] Banter and Reflections

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Tone & Style

Woody and Cyndi keep the episode conversational and sometimes darkly hilarious despite the often grim subject matter. Their chemistry, knack for colloquial storytelling (“rolling in a BMW, robbing a guy for Grubstow cards!”), and unfiltered takes—especially Woody’s—add both gravity and comic relief to a podcast squarely focused on the darker sides of real-life crime.

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This episode offers an unflinching and sometimes irreverent look at crimes that shock, anger, and sadden. With authenticity and heart, Woody and Cyndi remind listeners that behind every news headline is a story worth telling—and a victim worth remembering.

Transcript

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[Woody Overton]

Foreign hello everybody, and welcome to this episode of True Crime. Time for Wednesday, October 15, 2025. And I'm Woody Overton.

[Cindy Overton]

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[Woody Overton]

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[Cindy Overton]

Yes.

[Woody Overton]

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[Cindy Overton]

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[Woody Overton]

Appreciate each and every one of y' all patronic convicts. Thank you. Hashtag just rattling AO another episode with Ms. Lula Bell coming to you. Patrons probably get it Thursday evening and everybody else to get it Saturday. So that's that. Yeah. Right.

[Cindy Overton]

Yep.

[Woody Overton]

All right, so what you got? It's time for Effed Up Professionals. It's time for Worldwide Crime.

[Cindy Overton]

Starting us off in London, England.

[Woody Overton]

London.

[Cindy Overton]

And we have an ambulance worker who I guess he flung an amputee patient from his wheelchair and then attempted to bribe him to keep him quiet about the incident.

[Woody Overton]

Inside the ambulance, outside the ambulance.

[Cindy Overton]

We'll find out. Okay, so the event took place while the worker was on duty with the London Ambulance Service and he was responsible for transporting vulnerable patients. According to tribunal findings, the employee, whose name has not been released publicly forcefully shoved the amputee from his wheelchair, causing him to fall to the ground. The worker then offered him money in exchange for his silence and prevent an official complaint.

[Woody Overton]

Okay, craziness. How much money do you.

[Cindy Overton]

How much money is that? I mean.

[Woody Overton]

Right, right.

[Cindy Overton]

The incident came to light during a formal employment tribunal which was her, which heard that the workers actions were obviously a gross abuse of trust and professionalism. The London Ambulance Service confirmed that the employee was immediately suspended and later dismissed following the investigation. Tribunal documents which were published in May of this year, detail how the victim showed remarkable courage in coming forward despite fear of retaliation, which happens often. The case has sparked widespread outrage and renewed public discussion about oversight and accountability with emergency medical services. And officials emphasize the compassion and care must remain at the heart of health care. Warning that behavior like this undermines the public's trust in those who are sworn to protect and serve the most vulnerable members of society.

[Woody Overton]

There you have it.

[Cindy Overton]

That's.

[Woody Overton]

I mean, come on, man.

[Cindy Overton]

What kind of person has to get off on pushing an amputee out of his wheelchair to the ground?

[Woody Overton]

Kind of needs to be punched in the mouth.

[Cindy Overton]

Literally.

[Woody Overton]

Right. Doesn't deserve a job, that job, any job. Well, maybe a trustee somewhere, Right? Maybe going back. It's time for Worldwide Crime. Right back to London you know what London's a home of?

[Cindy Overton]

Fish and chips.

[Woody Overton]

London Bridge, Big Ben. Oh, used to be the queen, now a king. The queen's English, now the king's English. All right, going back to London and you know, I seen a lot of funny in the courtroom. Like I tell the one of the in for Courtney's. One of Courtney's hearings, like 30 that we went to over the two years, you know, the preliminary. And they'd be doing jailhouse calls ahead of time. And they had the guy on there and the judge like, Mr. So and so. You ready? Said, yeah, yeah, almost. My chicken sandwich. And she said, what are you talking about? He said, yeah, can you come back to me? Today's chicken sandwich day and I want my chicken sandwich. So he refused to get his shit and whatever. I don't know what happened to him after that. But this dude named Josh Eno in London, he was found guilty last month of killing Rico Andrews, who was 21, in southwest London. And he was scheduled to appear at the Old Bailey, another London landmark, for sentencing on Monday. But a judge had to delay the hearing.

[Cindy Overton]

Okay?

[Woody Overton]

And it wasn't for a chicken sandwich. The judge had to delay the hearing because Eno refused to leave his cell at the Bel Marsh Prison. All right, So I guess that happens sometimes. But Judge Philip Katz, KC then had to adjourn the case until Thursday for staff at the Belmarsh to confirm that Eno had been given adequate warning that the citizen would go ahead without him. Hey, just because you're not going to show up don't mean we're not going to send you, right?

[Cindy Overton]

Right.

[Woody Overton]

Judge said it's ridiculous. When we are manipulated by someone refusing to get out of bed, it is highly unsatisfactory. You know that judge had a case of the red ass, right? But Eno had stolen a $20,000 motorbike, or 20,000 pound motorbike from BMW Battersea after threatening to stab a security staff at around 6pm on October 5. The bike was taken from him two hours later by two other males. So he stole it and they jacked him. Well, one of whom, you know, believed to be Andrews. Eno, riding on the back of the silver moped driven by Tyrone Atwood, who's 34, confronted Andrews near his Battersea home before shooting him at point blank range in the chest. The motorbike and the gun were never found, but two knives were located at the scene. Shouts of that's karma was hers. He fled on the moped. Wow, BMW. Yeah. So Eno was identified as A suspect through cctv, closed circuit television, and they made inquiries and he was arrested when he attended a probation appointment on October 26th. Come on, man. This has got to be a shithead. You're already on probation. But hey, I'm gonna be a good boy, show up my probation officer after I kill this deed.

[Cindy Overton]

Yeah.

[Woody Overton]

He was found to be in possession of a large hunting knife and was wearing the same distinctive clothes as the day of the trainers, I guess. I mean, it's clothes, maybe shoes.

[Cindy Overton]

Trainers are tennis.

[Woody Overton]

As on the day of the murder. But he denied the murder and he told the court that losing a stolen motorbike was an occupational hazard of being a robber and that the gun went off in Andrew's hand.

[Cindy Overton]

Oh, yeah.

[Woody Overton]

Andrew shot himself.

[Cindy Overton]

Yeah, yeah, of course.

[Woody Overton]

But losing a motorbike, it's. It's okay. It's business. I also do that business.

[Cindy Overton]

Yeah.

[Woody Overton]

Eno, who is of two teen, right, funny name, was unanimously convicted by an Old Bailey jury. And Atwood of Sheepcoat Lane, Battersea, denied and was cleared of murder, but was convicted of robbery of the BMW, which Eno also admitted. And the pair had also admitted to stealing a very rare bike in London, a Harley Davidson. Oh. So following the conviction, Rico's mother paid tribute to him, saying, my son Rico was truly an amazing human. He literally had the best sense of humor, quick wit, and just made everything funnier. Rico was the most laid back dude who never took anything seriously. She said, rico should still be here. His life should not have been taken at 21 over a stolen bite. Well, Alex Rudabica, the South Point child murderer, also refused to leave his prison seal for court hearing back in February. The teenager, who was sentenced to a minimum of 52 years in prison for the knife rampage, had been scheduled to appear via video, which most of them are done by video now. They call them in twice a day. Anyway, he. He was scheduled to appear via video link at Liverpool Crown Court to correct the technical error. But he said it. I'm not going. Let me know how it works out for you dumb asses. The. The wheels adjust is turned a little bit slower because you did that, but they're still turning. There you have it.

[Cindy Overton]

Wow.

[Woody Overton]

Yep. What you got?

[Cindy Overton]

I got. I'm just gonna stay in. In England.

[Woody Overton]

Wow. Rolling with some fish and chips today. It's time for worldwide crime.

[Cindy Overton]

Gonna go on over to Bristol, England.

[Woody Overton]

All right.

[Cindy Overton]

And there's a 43 year old woman, Yasmina Ally or Ali, and she's been charged with the murders of her three young children. We have seven year old Ferris Bash, three year old Jory Bash, and nine month old Muhammad Bash. What happened? It happened in the very quiet neighborhood of C. Mills on Bray's Walk. In the early morning hours of February 18th of 2024, police received a 999 emergency call reporting a disturbance at the family's home. And so officers went to check on it, and they found that all three of those children had suffered fatal knife injuries. Emergency responders tried desperately to save them, but their injuries were too severe. And the neighbors, when they started their investigation, the neighbors described the home as what seemingly was peaceful and ordinary. But as the investigation continued, detectives quickly identified that Yasmeen was definitely. I mean, as you know, she was definitely a suspect. And she was taken into custody that same day and later placed under the care of mental health services.

[Woody Overton]

Okay.

[Cindy Overton]

Authorities have not released a clear motive, but court documents indicate Ali's mental state will be a key factor in the ongoing investigation. Apparently, this has really affected the C. Mills community, as it would. And residents left flowers and toys and handwritten notes outside of the family's home. There were some, like, posters saying, rest easy, little angels, and then another one that said why with a question mark. But In May of 2025, prosecutors confirmed that Yasmeen had been formally charged with three counts of murder. Following months of psychological evaluation and evidence review, the Crowned Prosecution Service stated that the case represents an unimaginable loss of innocent life and emphasized their commitment to ensuring justice for these children. Ali's first court appearance is scheduled to take place at Bristol Magistrates Court, with a preliminary hearing expected to follow at the Crown Court. And she remains in custody pending trial. And police have not disclosed any additional details about the family's background. But neighbors, you know, have described, like they said, the house was peaceful and ordinary, that the children were bright, happy and polite. And they would see them playing in a small park that was near their home. And it's just, you know, we don't know. We don't know why she did it. Of course, the why doesn't matter.

[Woody Overton]

Oh, Lord. And there you have it.

[Cindy Overton]

Right, Right.

[Woody Overton]

I get it.

[Cindy Overton]

The.

[Woody Overton]

Almost nothing shocks me anymore.

[Cindy Overton]

Right.

[Woody Overton]

Which is a sad thing, I guess.

[Cindy Overton]

Yeah.

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[Woody Overton]

U.S. postal Service man, they're going to deliver the mail.

[Cindy Overton]

That's true, they are.

[Woody Overton]

Nobody does it anymore, right? I don't know.

[Cindy Overton]

We get A lot.

[Woody Overton]

Yeah. Because my mom, we share a mailbox. Holy smokes. She gets more mail than anybody I've ever seen in my entire history of my life.

[Cindy Overton]

Right.

[Woody Overton]

All right. Yeah. Well, let me tell you, it's not always a good job to have the someone I graduated from high school with was a male person and they got raped on their route many, many years ago. But let's go to Washington State in which started as an ordinary Friday mail delivery turned tragic when a U.S. postal Service worker was shot in the face during a confrontation with the delivery driver at an apartment complex in Washington State. Police responded to the West Mall Place apartments in the town of Everett around 12:50pm after reports of the shooting. When they got there, they found the male mail carrier seriously injured. And according to the postal inspector, John Wiegand, the unidentified worker was delivering mail when an argument broke out with an another delivery driver. You think they. I never even thought about them having competitions like Amazon and FedEx and whoever else. Anyway, he said a small altercation took place where unfortunately, the carrier was shot in the face. Now, the injured carrier, I guess that's what they call him now. The injured male person was taken to Harborview Medical center for treatment and was in critical condition. And police said the suspect was taken into custody. He's expected to be booked into the Snow Mich County Jail Friday night. Now. Oh, here it is. The postal truck and Amazon delivery van were towed from the scene later that afternoon. Authorities have not publicly confirmed whether the shooter was an Amazon delivery person, but according to Como, the local news, witnesses told investigators the man went to the apartment office and reported that he had shot a postal worker.

[Cindy Overton]

Damn.

[Woody Overton]

Yeah, I'm pretty sure you wanted prison. So. Another local news agent, the Independent, has reached out to the Everett Police Department and Amazon for more information. The names of the two delivery people were not released and the motive behind the incident is under further investigation. The neighbors told Como they were stunned to hear about the shooting and said they had previously felt safe in their complex. It's just heartbreaking, neighbor Genie Jones said. And I know him as the mailman. He's a good dude. I can't believe that. He's always good with people in our neighborhood. So there you have it.

[Cindy Overton]

Wow.

[Woody Overton]

Neither rain, sleet, snow or shine until the Amazon man shoot your ass.

[Cindy Overton]

What makes you lose it that much?

[Woody Overton]

I mean, come on, man. Delivering packages? You're not in a drug cartel.

[Cindy Overton]

Maybe you are.

[Woody Overton]

Yeah, maybe you are. So I don't know. Wow.

[Cindy Overton]

Well, I think I'm just going to go ahead and stay in England.

[Woody Overton]

It's time for worldwide crime.

[Cindy Overton]

We're in Huddersfield, England, and we have a 16 year old, Ahmad Al Ibrahim. And he came or he went to the United Kingdom from Syria, and he was seeking asylum. A fresh start and of course, safety. And of course, coming from Syria, he had already survived the horrors of war. He was actually injured in a bombing that destroyed his home in Homs. But it was just a sunny afternoon in England where he died for no reason at all. On April 3, 2025, Ahmad was walking through Ramsden street and it's apparently a very busy center of Huddersfield, and he accidentally brushed past a young woman in a crowd. Like just, you know, when you're walking in a crowd, you okay? That contact changed everything for him. The woman's boyfriend, who is 20 year old Alfie Franco, he was very offended by that brush past her. And within seconds, the situation spiraled out of control. So witnesses and CCTV footage showed Franco confronting Ahmad, calling him over, pulling a flick knife from his pocket. And in a sudden brutal motion, Franco stabbed the teenager in the neck. And then Ahmad collapsed to the pavement as people watched. And then they rushed to help. But the womb killed him and he died before of paramedics could even get there and save him. Prosecutors told the court that Franco had been drinking and taking multiple drugs that day, including cannabis, cocaine, ketamine, diazepam and codeine. And that's his. You know, he took a lot of drugs, so, you know, I'm gonna. He's just gonna mess up and stab somebody to death. It's okay. That's a hell of a kind combination.

[Woody Overton]

Yeah, right. Horse tranquilizer, Xanax, codeine, cocaine, cannabis, and some weed. Yeah.

[Cindy Overton]

So in court, Franco tried to claim self defense, saying he thought Ahmad had a weapon. But the CCTV footage completely shows that that's not what happened at all. Ahmad was unarmed. He hadn't threatened anyone. He was just a kid. He was, and he's 16. So. Judge Martin Spencer didn't hold back in the sentencing, calling Franco's story, quote, unquote, a lie. And the killing, quote, unquote, targeted and senseless. And Franco was sentenced to life in prison with a minimum term of 23 years before he's eligible for parole. For Ahmad's family, who fled war only to face another kind of violence, Frank, the loss is unimaginable. He dreamed of becoming a doctor, of helping others, of rebuilding life that had already been torn apart for him once before. Outside the courtroom, members of the Syrian refugee community gathered to mourn him. Describing him as gentle, kind and full of promise. And the judge's final words echoed what everyone was thinking. You robbed a young man of his future. And for what? A moment of petty anger.

[Woody Overton]

Set. And I'm a re. I'm a follow your story up.

[Cindy Overton]

Okay.

[Woody Overton]

With another one, but it's back in the states. Amarillo, Texas. Right. And then, you know, I talk about the first of the month club. You know what that is?

[Cindy Overton]

I do know.

[Woody Overton]

All right, for those of you who don't know, eat on the first of the month, you could drive through certain areas and this is after grub subs. Used to be those food stamps. And I'm not knocking them at all. Certain there's families that need them. Absolutely. But. But it was food stamps that you had to peel off a thing and. And put on a card or whatever. And then they went to the like debit cards, the EBT cards.

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[Woody Overton]

57 year old father to one year older me, was beaten to death in Texas by three people for his food stamp card. Come on, bro.

[Cindy Overton]

How.

[Woody Overton]

How much? Could be. It could be there like 300 bucks. I mean, but it gets better list. Yeah, Listen to this. Well, I'm sure it's for his kids.

[Cindy Overton]

That's what I'm saying. More if he.

[Woody Overton]

Well, I don't. It doesn't matter how much it is, but. And they beat him to death and then they took the card from his pockets. Well, actually they beat him down, like just kicked the out of him. Kept beating him and beat him and they hit him over the head with a glass bottle. So palooka volition of Amarillo was found by a local resident who took him to his house to recover from injuries and that would later prove fatal. Those injuries were caused by suspects. Thomas Rendon, who's 33. Right. Great career. Still in Grubstow cars. Aline Nadishamia, 30. DeShawn Jackson, 18. This according to local CBS affiliate KFDA. Now, Amarillo PD sent out news alerts after the incident describing how Volation died inside the witness's home from the head and facial injuries after being beaten in 1100 block of Bluebell Street. The authorities told KFDA that volition had an EBT food stamp card that the suspects allegedly wanted to take from him. So this is where it gets even better. Security footage. Imagine that attained by Amarillo PD investigators shows Nadeshmi approaching volation and demanding the card from him. Well, valation's like you. It's my card. And then Nadeshmi waves his hand and signals to Rendon and Jackson to exit a black BMW. They're riding around stealing food stamp cars out of a BMW and that they're sitting in to come in, kick the out of the guy right now this the victim is originally from the Democratic Republic of Congo. Now authorities located in addition Jackson Rendon a day after the incident and booked them on charges of aggravated robbery and murder. Witnesses said they took Volition's cell phone in addition to his EBT card. And the man who found him dying told police, hey. He said, look, I just thought he fell asleep inside my bathroom. And then he came back to check on and found out he was dead. It's not his fault though. No. And the D and Jackson Renan are still behind bars waiting their next court date. I mean I guess if you gonna rob, roll in a BMW. Rob and keel for grub. So I want what is the maximum amount A 57 year old man can receive for an EBT card in Texas?

[Cindy Overton]

I found this on the web tell.

[Woody Overton]

Y' all real quick but you can't buy alcohol or tobacco or candy or pay for food for bills. You owe the. I mean, you know, that's a pretty good deal for some people roll down there and pay 150 for $300 worth of fee. So what they do is they take your maximum monthly income, a family size one, maximum income $2,152. Oh, so you can't have over that amount. Still, let's say how much you get. I think the. So that he would add $298 to eat off of for a month.

[Cindy Overton]

For a month.

[Woody Overton]

And they killed him for it while rolling. And they took a cell phone rolling in their BMW.

[Cindy Overton]

And I don't think that it accumulates like if you don't use it that month, I think you lose it. I don't know.

[Woody Overton]

He lost it either way.

[Cindy Overton]

But that's all he had. I mean and then if he would have given it and he could have reported it stolen, who knows how long it would have taken them to release the funds or even say that that's true, you know, because there.

[Woody Overton]

I'm pretty sure if I'm from the con, I've seen some.

[Cindy Overton]

Yeah.

[Woody Overton]

I'm 57 years old. I'm not giving my up either.

[Cindy Overton]

Right, right.

[Woody Overton]

But also he didn't. There was three of them. There was the one guy demanded his I want your food card and you go fuck yourself. He weighs his boys over out of the BMW and they stomp dog shit out of.

[Cindy Overton]

That's disgusting.

[Woody Overton]

It's life the world we live in. Boy, I tell you what, some people better find a higher power Jesus or whoever it may be for you because this shit is out of hand.

[Cindy Overton]

Yes, it is. It's really, really sad.

[Woody Overton]

It's time for effort of professionals lives.

[Cindy Overton]

For this one. I'm going to stay in the usa. I'm going to Vermont.

[Woody Overton]

Vermont, the Granite State, I'm pretty sure.

[Cindy Overton]

In Bartown, Vermont we have a substitute teacher named Melissa Martin and she's been cited after being found in possession of cocaine while teaching. And she was acting so radically that she mistook one of her students as a dog. So here's what happened last Wednesday morning. This is October. This year, students at Bartown Middle and elementary School told administrators that their substitute teacher was acting strange.

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[Woody Overton]

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[Cindy Overton]

Naturally, several pupils described her nodding off in class, then pulling herself together. And then later, she left the room. One student followed her out of the room into the hallway, and she addressed him by the name Teddy. His name was not Teddy. She says, hey, Teddy, why are you off your leash? And they realized soon that Teddy was actually her dog's name. Okay, so when school officials and police intervened, they found what they suspected to be cocaine in her jacket and backpack. And then the canine came in and confirmed the presence of cocaine.

[Woody Overton]

And nothing like being a teacher to get yourself through the day on your salary. Hitting the line.

[Cindy Overton]

Yeah, well, mine was hitting the coffee. I had my Keurig up in the classroom. But the teacher was definitely under the influence while in charge of children, and the local police cited her for possession of cocaine and reckless endangerment. Could she get reckless endangerment for every student that's in the class, like, 21 counts of that should be?

[Woody Overton]

I would have charged her with it.

[Cindy Overton]

Superintendent Joanne Canning said the district has taken immediate steps, remove the teacher from access to school buildings and reassured parents that student safety is the top priority. But parents are, of course, deeply shaken. And one mother asked bluntly, why are adults who work with our children not being drug tested? And we've talked about that before, you know, and so the question now is whether the screening, oversight, and monitoring protocols in place are strong enough to catch and prevent situations like this. Imagine if she was, like, in a kindergarten class.

[Woody Overton]

I mean, she probably would have been able to keep up with the kids, I guess me and how the yayo. I mean, get the out of here.

[Cindy Overton]

That's crazy.

[Woody Overton]

I. I totally, totally agree. So. I don't know. Stupid. The. I'm gonna give you a little short one. The. Remember Kelly Pickler from American Idol? She actually sang pretty good. But I remember about her as saying the harsh upbringing she had. Her daddy was in prison and all that. You remember that?

[Cindy Overton]

I don't. I don't remember that.

[Woody Overton]

I remember that. I remember I thought she could sing very well. And, you know, she went on to or still is having a pretty successful career, but she seems to have a bit of a shitty choice in men, and let me tell you why. So, the. They got a dude in North Carolina. He's in the world of hurt. But before I tell you about that, he. Before he did what he did to get in the world hurt. He was once the date for Kelly Pickler to the American. Was she. I didn't know she won the American Idol. She won It. I didn't know that either, but he. He was her date to the Country Music Television Awards.

[Cindy Overton]

Okay, Right.

[Woody Overton]

Well, his name is Nigel Edge, and he's in trouble because he killed three people and injured five in a shooting at the American Fish Company Saloon in Southport, North Carolina. You believe that? Well, after the shooting, he was detained by the U.S. coast Guard. All right, and. But back in 2012, see, that seems like yesterday, man. I guess it's been 13 years. He attended the CMT Awards as Pickler's date, along with his service dog, Rusty. And they had met at a charity event, and he hooked up with Pickler after telling his story of being nearly fatally injured during his time in the military. Right. So I guess Pickler took a hook, line and sinker. Well, they go to the awards. And after that, Edge, the idiot, tried to sue Pickler because he accused her of trying to kill him with a poison glass of Jim Bean at the award show.

[Cindy Overton]

He's just out to try to.

[Woody Overton]

He's fucking out there. Yeah, right. He also alleged in a separate claim that the Brunswick Medical center also tried to kill him. And of course, he's being held without bond. And I'm sure There's nothing to Ms. Pickler trying to poison with a glass of Jim Beam. So. The three people killed during the shooting have been identified as two out of state residents and a third who had recently moved to the coastal town. And local officials released the names of the victims who died from Saturday night shooting at the American Fish Company. Yeah, let's look at about 30 miles south of Wilmington. I've seen those before. It's kind of a national thing. The five others were also injured. And the city spokesperson, Cheyenne Ketchum, said it was her understanding that the five remain hospitalized. And the city identified those killed as Joy Rogers, 64, of Southport, Solomon Banjo, 36, Charlottesville, Virginia, and Michael Durbin, 56, of Glen, Ohio. And the names of the wounded have not been released. Soon after the shooting, cops arrested Nigel Edge, who's a decorated veteran and a Purple Heart recipient. Y'. All. Any. Any veteran can be decorated. You could just be in the military at the time, and they can get a presidential commendation for, you know, whatever, for being on a basis. Certain day he went there and he likes your prayer. I'm not saying he. He didn't do something special, but goes all the way from special shit to people who. Who get part of the special and. And ride that for the rest of their lives. Eyes. Purple Heart recipient means you were wounded while on the. Well, while in the service. It could be a paper cut or it could be a bullet hole.

[Cindy Overton]

Yeah, my grandfather had a Purple Heart.

[Woody Overton]

So. Edge, who changed his name From Sean William Debuviocy in 2023, piloted a boat close to shore, stopped briefly and opened fire at a crowd of vacationers and other patrons and what Southport police Chief Todd Coren previously called a highly premeditated targeted attack. An arrest warrant said that Edge used an AR style rifle with a silencer and a scope. And of course he's charged with three counts of first degree murder, five counts attempted first degree murder, five counts of solid deadly weapon, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. He is a idiot. So they. I mean, I don't know. You gotta have it, I guess just the, the. I mean, you know, the. Edge was an ex marine who was wounded in the head, hip and ankle and shoulder while serving in Iraq in 2006. And he told the woman Star News in 2017 that he was left for dead after being shot four times during a raid on a warehouse. Now, the U.S. marines said Ed served for nearly six years. It was deployed as part of Operation Iraqi Freedom in 2005 and 2006, and he made the rank of sergeant. So anyway. Oh, here it is. He received the Purple Heart for being wounded. And his decoration was. He was wore the Marine Corps Good Conduct medal.

[Cindy Overton]

Oh, well, at least he was a good boy in the Marine.

[Woody Overton]

But I forgot to tell you, I'm. I'm many times decorated.

[Cindy Overton]

Better. I know.

[Woody Overton]

I can't remember what they are.

[Cindy Overton]

I can only imagine. Weren't you a sergeant like I was a sergeant like 19 years old or something.

[Woody Overton]

I went to primary leadership development course. Probably younger than anybody else has ever been, but decorated. But I forgot about it because those don't matter. It doesn't matter. I passed PT test. Give me a medal. All right, you go.

[Cindy Overton]

You go.

[Woody Overton]

It's time for effed up professionals. It's time for family matters.

[Cindy Overton]

I think this mesh of effed up professionals and family matters is a different one. Like we really haven't had these two combined before, but we had. We're in Amity Township, Pennsylvania. That.

[Woody Overton]

What do you even know about that? You act like you know all about it.

[Cindy Overton]

Only the movie I only watched.

[Woody Overton]

What do you know about the movie?

[Cindy Overton]

I remember in the movie the little girl sleeping. Well, there's pigs and the little girl sleeping in her bed and someone was rocking in the rocking chair. Those types of movies freaked me out. But my daddy used to love to watch that movie. It would freak me out. And so I, as I do with most horror movies, which we don't watch, this is how I watch the movie, which was my face covered up, peeking through. So I remember something happening in a window. I remember what the house looks like, the two story house. Is that enough to satisfy you?

[Woody Overton]

That's enough.

[Cindy Overton]

Well, we have a 36 year old Dr. Justin Rutherford. And he was a known and respected physician, a husband and a stepfather. And on the surface, he seemed to have it all. Also a good reputation and a thriving medical career. And his family loved him. But Rutherford was living a secret double life that ultimately destroyed everything around him. And so all of this began in 2021, when a teenage friend of Rutherford's stepson, he used the bathroom at the family's home and noticed something strange. And it looked like a phone charger plugged into the wall, but it had a small hidden lens. So the friend removed the device and he took it home.

[Woody Overton]

Peekaboo.

[Cindy Overton]

And he showed it to his mother. And the mother somehow realized exactly what it was and she contacted the police. Investigators from the Amity Township Police Department and the Berks County District Attorney's office responded to the report and quickly confirmed the device was a hidden camera recording video from inside the bathroom. And they found stuff that had been going on for years. The footage revealed thousands of images and videos secretly recorded in the family home. It showed people showering, changing clothes, using the restroom. And the victims that were on this were Rutherford's stepchildren, one of whom had already been subjected to years of sexual abuse that began when he was 11 years old. Investigators later found evidence that Rutherford had also assaulted another minor during a sleepover while awaiting trial. This is Rutherford's double life. Took in, took an even darker turn. So from inside prison, he began plotting to have his stepson murdered. The same child that he'd been abusing for years.

[Woody Overton]

The woman would go to court and say he's been raping him.

[Cindy Overton]

He wrote letters outlining how killing, how the killing should be carried out painlessly, with instructions to bury and burn the body to hide the evidence. Of course, thankfully, he's in prison. And those communications were intercepted.

[Woody Overton]

Yeah, right. They forgot they read your mail right.

[Cindy Overton]

Before the plan could be executed. So In February of 2024, Rutherford was sentenced to 26 years and 10 months to 70 years in prison for rape of a child, sexual assault, and invasion of privacy. He was given an additional five to 10 years for the attempted murder to hire plot, and his medical license has been revoked.

[Woody Overton]

You think?

[Cindy Overton]

Right. And prosecutors say he was, you know, described As a man with who wore two faces. One a trusted father and family man and another a manipulative predator piece of shit. They say the discovery of the hidden camera by the sharp eyed teenager and the brave mother. Because you know, this man was a highly respected man in the community, acted on instinct and ultimately brought his double life to light and ended the years of secret abuse.

[Woody Overton]

But there were more cameras that he was able to get to after he realized that one had been taken.

[Cindy Overton]

Right?

[Woody Overton]

Like, because whoever went to the bathroom, he's like pulling up on his phone so he could beat his meat and he's like, oh shit, they took the camera. Let me go get the rest of them. Yeah, well, you know what? He's going to prison. And he can put his medical license to get used and be a trustee in the medical ward and do whatever. Hopefully help some people before they stick a shank in his ass for raping kids. Which is what they should do.

[Cindy Overton]

Right.

[Woody Overton]

And am I condone violence? Yeah, I actually am on him.

[Cindy Overton]

Yeah.

[Woody Overton]

So him, he can he committed by all kinds of violence against that baby. Well, there you have it. And it's fall time. I haven't seen many Halloween decorations. Lee, Kimmy's got your ass beat.

[Cindy Overton]

Kimmy, if I. Well, Halloween decorations are not going up. Fall might. But that. I'm. I'm not putting anything.

[Woody Overton]

We're getting a thousand dollars worth of decorations. Oh, you're not putting pressure on yourself. Okay. Yeah, I thought you like decorations. If you like something, it shouldn't be pressure.

[Cindy Overton]

The pressure's coming for Christmas.

[Woody Overton]

Like this house made all those reefs and fake pumpkins and turkey and all that stuff needs to go up.

[Cindy Overton]

We'll put it up.

[Woody Overton]

No, that, that's not my job. The.

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[Woody Overton]

Going to have the whole family here for Thanksgiving. The. The family that we want to be here for Thanksgiving, you better have some shit hanging.

[Cindy Overton]

I do. I have, I have a wreath hanging right now.

[Woody Overton]

A wreath? Yeah. I'm going to say I'm gonna go out there and shoot videos of the box full of decorations. Go figure out for it. No, it'd be too much effort.

[Cindy Overton]

No, because you know that all.

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[Woody Overton]

Throw pillow in my chair, I'm good. Or a reef hits me in the back of my head when I close the door.

[Cindy Overton]

I want to know why you're sweet about me when I'm not here. But when I'm here, you tease me.

[Woody Overton]

Because it's part of what it's like part of flirting.

[Cindy Overton]

Like.

[Woody Overton]

Yeah.

[Cindy Overton]

Okay.

[Woody Overton]

It makes it keeps it interesting. Right.

[Cindy Overton]

Thank you. First, being sweet. When I was editing, I was like. Because I do, you know, I edit minute by minute. And so I was like, like, our second by second. And I was like, oh, he's being so sweet.

[Woody Overton]

Yeah. Yeah, sometimes that happens. So.

[Cindy Overton]

So thank you for doing those episodes without me.

[Woody Overton]

Yep, yep. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Look, business is busy. How, you know, we forget that. Well, I guess we don't forget. I guess people can listen and forget. These are businesses, you know, and that unfortunately we have to do all the business side of that makes it a business.

[Cindy Overton]

I think sometimes people forget that this is also personal. They see that it is just a business. Like, they don't see that we are actually humans and not AI back here.

[Woody Overton]

20 plus hours a day.

[Cindy Overton]

Yes.

[Woody Overton]

Every waking minute. I mean, even unless I'm pulling a trigger on a bird flying across the field.

[Cindy Overton]

Well, even when you're doing that, my.

[Woody Overton]

Brain is thinking about, whatever. So. But anyway, we love y' all and we're blessed to have the business. And thank you again for our sponsors on Patreon and Convicts and all y' all and like and share and all that good podcaster. And enjoy this little bit of cooler weather. Right? So anyway, I'm Woody Overton.

[Cindy Overton]

I'm Cindy Overton.

[Woody Overton]

We'll holler y' all later. Peace.

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