True Crime Time For October 17, 2025 | Foreclosure Fraud, Drunk Sheriffs, and a 91-Time Felon’s Controversial Release

Summary

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Real Life Real Crime – "True Crime Time For October 17, 2025"

Foreclosure Fraud, Drunk Sheriffs, and a 91-Time Felon’s Controversial Release

Hosts: Woody Overton & Cindy Overton
Date: October 17, 2025

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Episode Overview

This episode dives into a trio of wild, disturbing, and sometimes darkly humorous true crime stories shared by veteran lawman Woody Overton and his co-host (and wife) Cindy Overton. The main stories cover:

• A shocking case of property fraud and wrongful foreclosure in Georgia,
• An out-of-control Kentucky sheriff racking up DUIs,
• The impending release of a San Francisco career criminal with 91 felony convictions.

Woody and Cindy bring their signature blend of outrage, dark humor, and personal anecdotes—highlighting systemic failures, professional misconduct, and the emotional toll on victims and families.

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Key Discussion Points & Episode Structure

1. Community & Justice Advocacy (02:28–04:30)

• Shout-outs to Listeners: Hosts thank their loyal "convicts," referencing their cult following and engagement with cold case advocacy hashtags like "#JusticeForBradley" and "#JusticeForAO."
• Woody’s Mission: Woody reiterates his commitment to using his platform for justice, especially for families suffering systemic neglect.

“If I do nothing else but keep up the pressure until they get off their ass and do their job, then it’s a win.”
—Woody Overton (04:02)

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2. Story #1: Foreclosure Fraud in Georgia (04:45–14:11)

The Case

• Victims: James and Lucretia Clutchen, fighting to save their generational family home in Walton County.
• Fraud Mechanism: They receive letters demanding payment on an unfamiliar $50,000 reverse mortgage. James spots his forged signature on deed transfer documents.
• Their Struggle:
  • Hire handwriting expert (who confirms fraud), but authorities decline to help—labeling it a “civil matter.”
  • Despite proof, the mortgage moves forward; they are evicted.
  • Their home sells at auction ($500K), purchased by Maverick Land Company, who knew about the forgery but proceeded anyway.
  • The Clutchens are currently suing, refusing a $300K settlement offer.

Systemic Failure & Emotional Fallout

• The Overtons compare their own experiences with fraud (albeit on a smaller scale), highlighting bureaucratic roadblocks and the emotional drain.
• The system treats victims like suspects, demanding proof but giving scammers an easy pass.

"I had to prove myself...but the person that got our account didn’t have to do any of that."
—Cindy Overton (08:45)

Outrage & Empathy

• Woody expresses his anger at authorities for passivity, suggesting victims should call the news if all legal avenues fail.
• The case illustrates the vulnerability of property owners to sophisticated scam artists and indifferent officials.

"Imagine that—living in the home you grew up in, getting papers saying, ‘Hey, we’re foreclosing on your shit.’"
—Woody Overton (10:06)

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3. Story #2: The Drunk Sheriff – Kentucky Lawman’s Wild Ride (14:11–31:09)

The Case

• Offender: Terry Gray, sheriff of Robertson County, KY.
• Pattern of Misconduct:
  • Third DUI in two years, including drunk driving in a squad car near a school; once flipped a tractor while intoxicated.
  • Most recent arrest: Speeding 110 mph with lights and sirens, while heavily intoxicated (.226 BAC), in full uniform and armed.

Reaction & Consequence

• Sheriff is finally facing serious repercussions; the governor and law enforcement community call for resignation/removal.
• Outlines how “unwritten rules” once protected law enforcement from being charged, but the severity and repeated nature of Gray’s misconduct forced action.
• Hosts discuss the near-inevitability that this is only the tip of the iceberg regarding such behavior.

"There are probably 35 other times that he got away with it.”
—Woody Overton (29:33)

• Woody reflects on law enforcement culture and past leniency toward "high sheriffs," but hammers home that repeated DUI is "tarnishing the badge."

Notable Quotes

“If you’re a cop and you drive drunk… there’s 99.9% chance your ass is getting fired… but this takes it to a whole new fucking level.”
—Woody Overton (14:15)

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4. Story #3: Career Criminal in San Francisco–91-Time Felon’s Controversial Prospective Release (34:20–52:53)

The Case

• Offender: Troy McAllister, arrested and convicted 91 times.
• Recent Crime: While out on parole, driving a stolen car, high on meth and alcohol, kills two women (Hanako Abe, 27; Elizabeth Platt, 60) in a crosswalk.
• Legal Twist: Despite his heinous record and the fatal incident, a San Francisco judge is considering granting early release via a diversion program (intended for first-timers or non-violent offenders).

Public Outrage & Systemic Failure

• Victim families and public protest the prospect of release, holding rallies and pressuring officials.
• Discussion focuses on failures under previous DA Chesa Boudin’s "soft on crime" policies and how such repeat offenders regularly slip through.

“91 fucking times… and they’re going to send him to a first time offenders program?”
—Co-host (38:03)

• DA’s office and victim advocates push back, but defense lawyer argues McAllister’s case is “overcharged,” seeking more leniency.

Hosts’ Reactions

• Woody and Cindy are incensed at the system’s willingness to give endless second chances and the staggering cost to taxpayers and community safety.

“If I jaywalked 91 times I’d be in prison."
—Woody Overton (50:14)

• Woody acknowledges there are places for drug court and diversion—but never for violent offenders or those with extreme repeat histories.

“This is a waste of taxpayers money, a waste of everyone’s time… This motherfucker is never going to change.”
—Woody Overton (52:31)

Memorable Lament

• They tally administrative costs from the serial arrests and bookings, venting that criminals seldom bear the financial or moral consequences.

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5. Side Story: Liverpool Street Brawl & Gunfire (31:32–34:45)

• Case: Two brothers in Liverpool, UK (Jack and Kevin Gibney) sentenced to life for firing into a crowd during a street brawl (no injuries).
• Host Reflection: Judge’s heavy sentence cited as an example of swiftness and certainty, compared to the U.S. case that follows.

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Notable Quotes & Moments

• On Law Enforcement Accountability:
  "We police our own… His behavior is unacceptable."
  —Woody Overton quoting law enforcement officials (28:03)

• On Criminal System Frustrations:
  "Give him a bill for 91 times… and pay off these funerals… then come talk to me about a fucking pretrial diversion program."
  —Co-host (51:05)

• On Diversion Programs:
  "There should be programs like that. This was arrested 91 times. He does not deserve a chance at a first offender program."
  —Woody Overton (52:15)

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Timestamps for Key Sections

• [02:28] – Show intro & justice advocacy
• [04:45] – Foreclosure fraud & Clutchen family case detailed
• [14:11] – Kentucky sheriff DUI saga begins
• [31:32] – Liverpool gunfire case
• [34:45] – Career criminal Troy McAllister and San Francisco’s justice system
• [50:04] – Hosts riff on system failures and “pretrial diversion” lunacy
• [52:10] – Woody on when diversion programs should apply
• [54:09] – Lighthearted closer, dog chaos, weekend wishes

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Tone & Style

• Language: Unfiltered, candid, Southern-flavored.
• Approach: Blunt, empathetic advocacy, dark humor, practical knowledge from law enforcement.
• Notable: In-the-weeds legal/justice commentary, relatable personal tangents, and a critical but caring eye for justice and victims.

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Summary Takeaway

This episode underscores the up-close insanity, heartbreak, and absurdity of America’s justice system—where victims sometimes struggle harder for justice than criminals face for wrongdoing. Woody and Cindy Overton cut through the red tape, delivering hard truths, gallows humor, and a call for change in law enforcement and criminal justice practice.

Woody’s closing message: Stay vigilant, value justice over bureaucracy, and don’t be afraid to make noise when the system fails you.

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Transcript

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[Woody Overton]

Hello, everybody. Welcome to this episode of True Crime time for Friday, October 17th, 2025. And I'm Woody Overton.

[Cindy Overton]

I'm Cindy Overton.

[Woody Overton]

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[Woody Overton]

Every one of y'.

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All.

[Woody Overton]

Y'. All. The. The numbers don't lie. We consistently rank every week in the.

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Top in the world, and we appreciate that.

[Woody Overton]

If you have any ideas or comments.

[Co-host (possibly another Overton or regular guest)]

For segments or whatever, send it in.

[Woody Overton]

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[Cindy Overton]

That's true.

[Woody Overton]

So why don't you give us a story? Oh, Patreon convicts.

[Co-host (possibly another Overton or regular guest)]

Boy, I tell you what.

[Woody Overton]

This. The. This hashtag just for Bradley. Hashtag just for ao. Every week when it drops, it just goes crazy. It doesn't matter if it's a recorded person on the phone or like now playing the psychic stuff while the investigation is going on because you just can't say so much on the air. Holy. The people are passionate.

[Co-host (possibly another Overton or regular guest)]

You know, say nothing else about Burning Paris.

[Woody Overton]

They're passionate.

[Cindy Overton]

They are. Well, they're tired. Like.

[Woody Overton]

Yeah, tired.

[Cindy Overton]

The person in the previous caller at the very, very end, I mean, that was a heart wrenching plea to don't give up on them and to please, you know, continue your fight. And they're. You're their hope.

[Woody Overton]

I.

[Cindy Overton]

No pressure.

[Woody Overton]

I. I'm not there. The. The. If I do nothing else but keep up the pressure until they get off their ass and do their job, then. Then it's a win, right?

[Cindy Overton]

Yeah.

[Woody Overton]

The. Just trying to use this platform to expose shit and try to get some justice. And that's all it is. So. Because those families are suffering. There's no doubt about that.

[Cindy Overton]

There's so many families suffering.

[Woody Overton]

Yeah. Way too many. Yeah. All right, go ahead. It's time for family Matters.

[Cindy Overton]

In Walton County, Georgia, we have a couple, and they are fighting to protect a home that has been in their family for generations. So in 2019, a couple began receiving letters demanding payment on a $50,000 reverse mortgage that was t to their property in Walton County. James, who had the power of attorney for his. His late grandmother's estate, was suspicious when he received that letter and he reviewed the paperwork and alarm bells went off. And he. He knew someone had forged the paperwork because his signature was on it, and he knows he didn't sign it. And it was the paperwork specifically was a home warranty deed.

[Woody Overton]

Big Deal now. Yes, big deal.

[Cindy Overton]

And it was transferring ownership without his knowledge or consent.

[Woody Overton]

And all you gotta do is get.

[Co-host (possibly another Overton or regular guest)]

Somebody to stamp it and, you know.

[Woody Overton]

Have some fake IDs and you're fucked.

[Cindy Overton]

Exactly. So desperate to prove the fraud the couple which I'm sorry it was James and Lucretia Clutchen. The Clutchens hired a handwriting expert who proved right. But they proved that the mat. The signatures didn't match. But by that time.

[Co-host (possibly another Overton or regular guest)]

But you had to hire one.

[Woody Overton]

Look, let's stop for a second. The when we got hacked, we started Bradley's case and AO's case. I won't say that it didn't cause a bunch of. It certainly did because it's just like if I go in tomorrow and I file charges against you and I say you hit me today, regardless whether or not it's true, it's got to be investigated. So then you got to go in and answer it and all that. Well, we get hacked. We had to change all our passwords and then, you know, dispute some things that were hacked in. And the one of the few credit card companies I have called and the just happened. My driver's license was expired, which is not expired anymore. So Burnham Harris don't be looking for me. The but the guy was like, well, send us a picture your driver's license and send us a. Oh, it's like my driver's license expired. And like okay. Well I said got my passport. And I said well yeah, you can send a picture of your passport, but it will. You also need to send us an electricity bill and another kind of bill.

[Co-host (possibly another Overton or regular guest)]

And what I said, you know what?

[Woody Overton]

You.

[Co-host (possibly another Overton or regular guest)]

I'm not sending you anything.

[Woody Overton]

The what happened y' all is the code kept coming through. It's like 11:30 at night. Code kept coming through on my phone. This is your one time code. And this I thought we had everything taken care of and I thought I didn't really even pay attention to it when it was coming in. Then I realized holy. I started thinking about this going to be somebody's trying to hack into this account, the one account they hadn't got into. And that's what I called. And the guy was. That's led to the morphed into the conversation. I told him. He was like, well, you can send me such. I said, you know what?

[Co-host (possibly another Overton or regular guest)]

I am calling you to tell you.

[Woody Overton]

It'S fraud on my shit and I'm having to jump through all these hoops.

[Co-host (possibly another Overton or regular guest)]

I said it would be a fucking.

[Woody Overton]

Cold day in hell before I send you electricity feel and anything Else on my right.

[Cindy Overton]

Yeah.

[Woody Overton]

They call almost every day.

[Cindy Overton]

Yeah.

[Co-host (possibly another Overton or regular guest)]

And I'm not doing it.

[Woody Overton]

They can go themselves. So the, the. It's just a headache and. But it's not as bad as somebody being murdered. But now when like stories like you're talking about when they get your house, go ahead and tell them the rest of it.

[Cindy Overton]

Well, but also speaking to that like Google, I was treated like we were the absolute. They treat you like you're the bad guy.

[Woody Overton]

Right.

[Cindy Overton]

And I had to prove myself. I had to remember the last post that we made. Like I had to. There were so many different things that like. Well, do you remember the last email you received from Google? And I'm like, I don't have access to.

[Woody Overton]

Yeah.

[Co-host (possibly another Overton or regular guest)]

I can't get in to check it.

[Woody Overton]

Motherfucker.

[Cindy Overton]

And so. But I had to go and you know do all that back. But the person that got our account didn't have to do any of that.

[Woody Overton]

That's the worst that they can do. The murderers can do. Then I'm okay with that. It's. That's just called life. But these people here finish telling about the house.

[Cindy Overton]

So they.

[Woody Overton]

They had.

[Cindy Overton]

They had to hire. They hired the handwriting expert which is.

[Woody Overton]

Just takes a lot of forethought. Which means they're. They're having to deal with this.

[Cindy Overton]

They took their findings to the Walton County Sheriff's Office where But authorities told them that it was a civil matter and leaving them without protection as the foreclosure move forward. So by then imagine that you live.

[Woody Overton]

In your shit, your home you grew up in and. And you getting papers getting started. Hey, we're foreclosed on your shit like.

[Co-host (possibly another Overton or regular guest)]

Bitch, I've been paying my every month.

[Woody Overton]

Why are you foreclosing?

[Cindy Overton]

Yeah. And it was on a reverse mortgage that this guy didn't even do. They're going to lose this whole family generational house over a forged document and someone got $50,000 and then is going to get the home.

[Co-host (possibly another Overton or regular guest)]

Yep. Well.

[Cindy Overton]

Or the home will be taken back.

[Woody Overton]

Yeah.

[Cindy Overton]

So by the time. By then the deed was already notarized by a closing attorney and a witness. Both of whom the Clutchens claim they never met. Despite the Clutchens alerting the mortgage company and raising red flags, foreclosure advanced and they were eventually evicted.

[Woody Overton]

That is fucking. You would have to. I would make that a national news story. I wouldn't shoot at any of the cops. But the. I would barricade myself in. I'd call every news station and say that I've done all this. Handwriting experts they tell me it's a silver map, or I've done taking all the steps that legally I could take, and now they go put me out on the street. Yep, that.

[Cindy Overton]

So the property sold at auction for around $500,000 to the Maverick Land Company, LLC, who the clutching say knew of the forgery claim before they finalized the purchase.

[Woody Overton]

Yep, I didn't give a shit. That's up 10 times the return on the $50,000.

[Cindy Overton]

So now the Klutchens are suing Maverick Land Company and the mortgage company, demanding accountability and a return of their home. They claim that the buyer even offered them more than $300,000 to settle, and they obviously rejected the deal because they want their home. They don't want the money. They didn't plan on selling their home. They planned on dying in this home. So during court proceedings, the closing attorney was slated testify that she witnessed James signing the document, but she actually never took the stand.

[Woody Overton]

Yeah, imagine that.

[Cindy Overton]

For James and Lucretia, this obviously isn't just about justice. This is about justice as much as the property. And Lucretia said, we want to die in this house. We want to give it to our children. Their fight is now not just personal. And they're taking it. They're making it a warning to all homeowners everywhere that this threat can happen. And it does.

[Woody Overton]

I mean, I've read more stories about this and everything, and it just takes one special breed. Like the ones. Yeah, they call 100 people an hour, try and say, oh, like they called me and said, Mr. Overton, you have a warrant for your U.S. i said, really? And you need to pay $189 today to stop us from coming to get you. We. We know where you work as a motherfucker. I was at state police headquarters time. I said, I'm sitting in my office at Louisiana State Police headquarters in Baton Rouge. Come fucking get me.

[Cindy Overton]

Yeah.

[Woody Overton]

And I said, where is this worn out of? Livingston County. Well, we don't even have county, so go yourself. But. But, you know, they only got to get lucky once, right? And they get people that.

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That.

[Woody Overton]

I mean, they can go into 10 different mortgage companies with fake IDs, and. And somebody's going to take that check. And it is what it is.

[Co-host (possibly another Overton or regular guest)]

And that would make them a up professional.

[Woody Overton]

And I got a foreign professionals.

[Co-host (possibly another Overton or regular guest)]

All right, Happens sometimes.

[Woody Overton]

Cops drive drunk, right? They just. They do everybody. I mean, not everybody, but some, you know, people make poor choices and drive drunk or whatever. What if you're a cop and you drive drunk? There's 99.9 thousand percent chance that your ass is getting fired.

[Cindy Overton]

Well, yeah, okay.

[Woody Overton]

I mean you're supposed to uphold the law. You arrest people for drunk driving and you are commissioned officer. You're driving. Well this. We're going to Kentucky and this takes it to a whole new fucking level. Won't believe this shit when I tell you the.

[Co-host (possibly another Overton or regular guest)]

So a sheriff in Kentucky is accused of driving 110 miles per hour.

[Woody Overton]

He had his license sirens on. All right, but he was drunk as fuck.

[Cindy Overton]

Okay, all right.

[Woody Overton]

It gets way more detail.

[Co-host (possibly another Overton or regular guest)]

So Terry Gray, who's a sheriff in Robertson county, he got arrested by the.

[Woody Overton]

Mason County Sheriff's office on October 7th.

[Co-host (possibly another Overton or regular guest)]

And faces charges of DUI, reckless driving, one endangerment and official misconduct.

[Woody Overton]

But the plot thickens.

[Co-host (possibly another Overton or regular guest)]

This incident marks the 48 year old's third. Oh, that third DUI charge in two years. His first came DUI in Louisiana's DWI. Driving under the influence came in December of 2023 when he was caught driving drunk in his police cruiser near a school.

[Cindy Overton]

That's fire.

[Co-host (possibly another Overton or regular guest)]

I mean, how is it not fireable? How is it not viable? His second offense was in August of 2024 when he was driving a tractor intoxicated. He drove it on a main road and later flipped it. Okay, the. So he made an offer plea during.

[Woody Overton]

His second time being called driving under influence, which is a plea when a person does not admit guilt but acknowledges there may be enough for a conviction. Stella Contende in Louisiana.

[Co-host (possibly another Overton or regular guest)]

Now on his third incident, Gray was pulled over after he almost crashed into.

[Woody Overton]

A Mason county Sheriff's deputy at 110 miles an hour. Was license hiring.

[Cindy Overton]

He was in his unit doing this.

[Co-host (possibly another Overton or regular guest)]

Wait, Donald, he's a unit He. Gray was wearing his uniform which featured the sheriff's insignia along with his firearm and handcuffs on his side. He's in full regalia. This motherfucker's rolling.

[Woody Overton]

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[Woody Overton]

You go fuck yourself.

[Co-host (possibly another Overton or regular guest)]

I ain't spending the shit. I'm the popo.

[Woody Overton]

And so they.

[Co-host (possibly another Overton or regular guest)]

They take him to the Mason County Detention center. And upon Pat frisking him, I assume.

[Woody Overton]

They took his weapon and she had seen, but I wasn't there.

[Co-host (possibly another Overton or regular guest)]

But they Pat frisk him before they.

[Woody Overton]

Take him to jail. Mama Karen Ortalana can tell you even the best miss. One night I brought a guy in and I had to fight him in a Nomex suit. There's plant suits, the fire suits. And I thought, I searched him down. Well, Pat Friston and shit. And I bring him to the jail. Think we have professionals like Karen or Talano, who if she didn't do it, she'd have somebody else research before they put him in a cell. Yeah, they found like four screwdrivers.

[Co-host (possibly another Overton or regular guest)]

Found one, we found two. I'm like, what the fuck? They have him in his ass.

[Woody Overton]

I mean. Anyway, so he refused to submit to.

[Co-host (possibly another Overton or regular guest)]

Field sobriety tests or breathalyzer. And they hauled him to The Mesa County 10 center, where some good correctional officer did another search, and they found a miniature bottle of liquor in his pocket. Motherfucker, can't you throw that away? Anyway, they also discovered a bottle of Fireball whiskey in his police car. And he had a registered blood alcohol content of 0.226. Y' all don't let the zero point mislead you. In Louisiana, they.

[Woody Overton]

Louisiana was the last state to change. It used to be 0.15. Now it's 0.08. So this motherfucker is way like, was.

[Co-host (possibly another Overton or regular guest)]

That almost four times the legal limit?

[Woody Overton]

And because he finally submits a tacit center, and this is probably hours and hours.

[Co-host (possibly another Overton or regular guest)]

So a 0.226 blood alcohol level is nearly three times what's legal in Kentucky. So finally, his actions have prompted authorities.

[Woody Overton]

Across Kentucky to call for his resignation.

[Co-host (possibly another Overton or regular guest)]

Including the governor and Andy Beshear.

[Woody Overton]

And.

[Co-host (possibly another Overton or regular guest)]

Governor Bashir's letter addressed directly to Gray, he asked the sheriff tender your resignation as a Robertson county sheriff to the county judge is exactly within five business days of your receipt of this letter. If you do not tender your resignation, the governor will move forward with removal under KRS 63.100 for neglect of duty, habitual drunkenness in office, engross immortality or misconduct in office amount to the neglected duty. We value the sanctity of law enforcement and the duty to uphold the law and serve and protect the communities and put their trust in the peace officers.

[Woody Overton]

Listen, this motherfucker wasn't just a deputy.

[Co-host (possibly another Overton or regular guest)]

He's the high sheriff. Okay, so Mesa County Sheriff Ryan Swolski arrested Gray and told the outlet there.

[Woody Overton]

Was no reason for him to be.

[Co-host (possibly another Overton or regular guest)]

Running lights and sirens, but obviously could.

[Woody Overton]

Smell the odor alcohol beverage on his person. And we proceeded to do a DUI investigation there. And at the end of the day.

[Co-host (possibly another Overton or regular guest)]

He needs to resign because he's tarnished the badge. I think I speak on behalf of law enforcement across this state and we.

[Woody Overton]

Police our own and his behavior is unacceptable.

[Co-host (possibly another Overton or regular guest)]

Now the offender told sheriff steering his arrest that, hey, I'm not that drunk.

[Cindy Overton]

Obviously when he said when he submitted to doing the test, he thought he was sober by that time and he still had a point.

[Co-host (possibly another Overton or regular guest)]

I'm not that drunk. The sheriff has avoided jail time, but has previously been told by a judge that his fourth DUI would result in a felony.

[Woody Overton]

That doesn't work. They had to be boycottized on each one. And anyway, so let's talk about that for just a second. The, the.

[Co-host (possibly another Overton or regular guest)]

This is the third time they called him. Now they called him. I understand you're the high sheriff.

[Woody Overton]

That's what my daddy always call it.

[Cindy Overton]

How many would let him know?

[Co-host (possibly another Overton or regular guest)]

The high sheriff now in Louisiana on how it is in the great state of Kentucky, Louisiana, the high sheriff means exactly that.

[Woody Overton]

You are the highest ranking law enforcement official in your parish. You could tell the state police to get the fuck out and it actually happened. Livingston Paris, Willie gray is dead. Mr. Odom. Gray told the state police get out for whatever dispute they ran and Governor.

[Co-host (possibly another Overton or regular guest)]

Edwards had to step in and you're a high sheriff.

[Woody Overton]

You get pulled over by deputy sheriff another county.

[Co-host (possibly another Overton or regular guest)]

I come 99.9% guarantee they are going.

[Woody Overton]

To get your ass home safely and not arrest you. Okay? So this Dude's been called three times now. There are probably 35 other times that he got away with it. That's a matter of fact. I'll be honest with you. In the academy they told us I'm not going to say what parish the guy was from. He was old, while I'm old timer now, but he was old timer like me. And he was kind of one ethics class because I was taught by Jeff laduff, former chief of Baton Rouge, but I forget what class it was. And he was like, you're gonna pull over a cop at some point. And in this, he was saying this off the record, but he did say, it's a whole class. You're gonna pull over a cop at some point and if they're not a. To you and they're not like. So whatever. Whatever. Impaired, he said. He said, matter of fact, he said, I'll tell you what we do. And the unwritten rule is in my parish, he said, you pull one over, you take their car keys, you take them to the local hotel, you get them a room and you tell them sleep it off and call the sheriff's office in the morning, we'll come pick you up.

[Cindy Overton]

Right.

[Woody Overton]

All right. I'm not saying that. I mean, that was 30 years ago. I'm not saying it was right or anything like that, but I'm saying this dude knows he's been getting away with it for a long time. Yeah.

[Co-host (possibly another Overton or regular guest)]

And you've been before judge three times already.

[Cindy Overton]

I know he should have lost his job the first time.

[Co-host (possibly another Overton or regular guest)]

Yeah.

[Woody Overton]

Fucked up professional, to say the least. So there you go.

[Cindy Overton]

Wow.

[Woody Overton]

It's time for worldwide crime. It's time for family matters.

[Cindy Overton]

So we're going to Liverpool, England, and we have two brothers that have been sentenced to life in prison after opening fire during a street brawl. So Jack Gibney, who was 25 years old, and Kevin Gibney, who is 34, were found guilty of attempted murder and possession of a firearm with intent to endanger life after a shooting that took place on Delamore street in Walton on February 21st of 2023. Police say the Gibney brothers fired multiple shots into a crowd of men who. Who were already fighting on the street around 1:55pm in which the gunfire sent bystanders scrambling for cover. But miraculously, no one was injured, and investigators later described the incidents as seconds away from tragedy. During their trial at Liverpool Crown Court, prosecutors said the brothers acted with reckless regard for human life, turning a neighborhood argument into a potential massacre. After reviewing surveillance footage and witness testimony, the jury convicted both men, and they were sentenced to life in prison with a minimum term of 16 years before becoming eligible for parole. Detective Inspector Chris Clark of Merseyside Police condemned the shooting, and he said The Gibneys did not have a single thought for the safety of other people. Sadly, we've seen the tragic consequences of guns being recklessly fired in public places. Thankfully, no one was injured this time. But this type of behavior will never be tolerated. So this case has reignited discussions about gun violence and organized street crime. In Liverpool. Residents of Walton praised police for their quick action and expressed relief that no lives were lost, but also frustration that such violence continues to play out in their community. For the Gibney brothers, the judge's ruling was clear. Their recklessness could have claimed innocent lives and they now spend a significant part of theirs behind bars. Life minimum of 16. Luckily they didn't kill anybody, but.

[Woody Overton]

Well, I don't know the.

[Co-host (possibly another Overton or regular guest)]

Did they have prior charges?

[Cindy Overton]

Well, they were just making a statement with them, which is good.

[Woody Overton]

Yeah.

[Cindy Overton]

Swift and hard. Swift certain consequences.

[Woody Overton]

Yeah. But I'm about to blow your mind with a story that is exactly the opposite of that.

[Cindy Overton]

I bet.

[Woody Overton]

It'S time for effed up professionals. And this might be the first story that we've done that has multiple fucked up professionals. Okay. And stick with me and you figure it out. The we're going to San Francisco, okay. And this, I mean there's good and bad in every profession and that includes judges and defense attorneys and everyone else.

[Co-host (possibly another Overton or regular guest)]

Okay. So.

[Woody Overton]

Going San Francisco and I was supposed to go there to the Presidio last month and I didn't do it because we were busy AF and what have you, especially with Bradley and AO's case. But the in San Francisco they got a judge. I'm sure they got numerous judges but. And this judge is thinking about doing something. You know what it is? No guesses.

[Cindy Overton]

No guesses.

[Woody Overton]

He is considering granting early release.

[Co-host (possibly another Overton or regular guest)]

To.

[Woody Overton]

A 91 time felon that 91 times been arrested and convicted. He's considering granting this deed. He's been arrested 91 fucking times.

[Co-host (possibly another Overton or regular guest)]

Just five years after he killed two.

[Woody Overton]

Women while driving high on meth. Yeah, you know what? I love you Californians and I used to love to go to San Francisco. I ain't going back there.

[Co-host (possibly another Overton or regular guest)]

So career criminal Troy McAllister was arrested.

[Woody Overton]

In 2020 after he fatally struck two women. Hanako Abe, who's 27 and Elizabeth Platt who was 60. On a New Year's Eve in a crosswalk, they cross the street and get run the over.

[Co-host (possibly another Overton or regular guest)]

Now McAllister was already out on parole and he was operating a stolen vehicle while high on meth and under the.

[Woody Overton]

Influence of alcohol like our good friend the Kentucky sheriff.

[Co-host (possibly another Overton or regular guest)]

And he's this this hadn't even been a trial yet.

[Woody Overton]

He. He's facing vehicle manslaughter charges over these. These deaths.

[Co-host (possibly another Overton or regular guest)]

Okay, maybe he's already out of parole and he's driving a stolen car. And how.

[Woody Overton]

Meth and alcohol. All right, contin.

[Co-host (possibly another Overton or regular guest)]

Continuing.

[Woody Overton]

But now the killer or alleged killer.

[Co-host (possibly another Overton or regular guest)]

Could see the light of day again as superior court judge Michael Bgert is set to possibly have McAllister avoid prosecution.

[Woody Overton]

Through a diversion program.

[Cindy Overton]

Why?

[Co-host (possibly another Overton or regular guest)]

91 fucking times. And they're going to send it to a first time offenders program?

[Cindy Overton]

No.

[Co-host (possibly another Overton or regular guest)]

No. So on Friday, McAllister appeared in court with his attorney Scott Grant, who's another.

[Woody Overton]

Up professional who requested.

[Co-host (possibly another Overton or regular guest)]

He said, I'd like my client's case be transferred to drug court, which is an intensive treatment program overseen by judge Burgert.

[Woody Overton]

Okay. Well, you can imagine. Yeah. Hopefully they had a good professional who was a victim's advocate, who. The. These families are awaiting this murder trial. They're staying in touch with him like, hey, he's going to be in court and they're thinking about letting his ass out.

[Cindy Overton]

Yeah.

[Co-host (possibly another Overton or regular guest)]

Hopefully so he can attend drug court.

[Woody Overton]

So the protesters showed up outside the.

[Co-host (possibly another Overton or regular guest)]

Hall of justice to demand justice. And they were doing chance and.

[Woody Overton]

And you know, whatever the. I don't know what they were the. But they were chant against McAllister's possible release.

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[Woody Overton]

Are you.

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[Co-host (possibly another Overton or regular guest)]

C mint mobile.com Troy McAllister has been charged with 81 felonies over the course of his multi decades career here in San Francisco. And we don't think that someone should be given an infinite chances to ultimately correct their course.

[Woody Overton]

That's according to Scotty Jacobs who's the director of the grassroots organization Blueprint for a better San Francisco. And he told that to ktv.

[Co-host (possibly another Overton or regular guest)]

So Scotty Jacobs.

[Woody Overton]

Yeah, I was just around by going to San Francisco. Actually our oldest lives real close in her grandbaby. But Scotty Jacob shout out to you and your grassroots organization.

[Co-host (possibly another Overton or regular guest)]

Jacobs, who said McAllister has been repeatedly.

[Woody Overton]

Released back to the streets through the.

[Co-host (possibly another Overton or regular guest)]

Diversion process, stood with others to fight.

[Woody Overton]

For justice for Abe and Platt, as they should. But the plot thickens. Here's. Here's the pictures of Abram Hyatt. She's in her 60s. And. And that's the baby girl, 27. Here's the judge.

[Co-host (possibly another Overton or regular guest)]

All right, so it said. While there are certain people who should be granted diversion and ultimately given the opportunity to rebuild their lives, Troy McAllister has demonstrated that despite being given that opportunity multiple times. 91 multiple times, he has continued to pose a threat to San Franciscans. And we believe he needs to be in jail.

[Woody Overton]

I concur.

[Co-host (possibly another Overton or regular guest)]

But the Prosecutors gathered nearly 30 minutes.

[Woody Overton]

Before McAllister was due in court.

[Co-host (possibly another Overton or regular guest)]

As the protesters held up the signs.

[Woody Overton]

And pictures of the victims, Abe and Plaid on them.

[Co-host (possibly another Overton or regular guest)]

Forrest Liu, who's an activist will stop.

[Woody Overton]

Asian Hate, echoed Jacob's concerns over the alleged killer being set free.

[Co-host (possibly another Overton or regular guest)]

You had an individual who had committed 91 felonies and they had been let out and given a second chance, a third chance and a fourth chance, etc. Etc. And they ended up stealing a car.

[Woody Overton]

And killing two innocent women. And this is what leads to ABC. ABC 7, Ms. Lou to you and your Stop Hate against Asians.

[Co-host (possibly another Overton or regular guest)]

Blueprint for a better San Francisco went on to credit District Attorney.

[Woody Overton]

This is really fucking piss, y'. All.

[Co-host (possibly another Overton or regular guest)]

Credit District Attorney Brooke Jenkins for pushing for restoring focus on public safety following.

[Woody Overton]

The recall of former DH Chesa Buddha.

[Co-host (possibly another Overton or regular guest)]

Supposed to be from Louisiana. Boudin.

[Woody Overton]

This.

[Co-host (possibly another Overton or regular guest)]

Boudin was booted from the role of DA after facing increased scrutiny for being too soft on crime, specifically with repeat offenders like McAllister. Boudin, who was sworn into office on January 8th of 2020 after running on the promise to take a new approach to crime by not prosecuting any lower level offenses. Right, so just go shoplift and theft.

[Woody Overton]

And.

[Co-host (possibly another Overton or regular guest)]

Just do a simple battery.

[Commercial Narrator 2]

Just.

[Co-host (possibly another Overton or regular guest)]

Or over there. Simple assault.

[Woody Overton]

Just walk up, walk up and pitch a woman's nipple. You're not. You don't get.

[Co-host (possibly another Overton or regular guest)]

She wasn't doing it.

[Commercial Narrator 2]

Just whip it out and.

[Co-host (possibly another Overton or regular guest)]

Hey, she got elected for that.

[Commercial Narrator 2]

These.

[Co-host (possibly another Overton or regular guest)]

Thought this was a good idea. Yeah. Whip it out and pee on. On a cop car.

[Woody Overton]

Take a.

[Co-host (possibly another Overton or regular guest)]

In the middle of the Dollar General Store. Yeah, it's okay.

[Cindy Overton]

It's fine.

[Co-host (possibly another Overton or regular guest)]

We're not gonna prosecute you. Let me DA It's a speed tailgate. Yeah, run away, whatever. It's okay. Because the cops may arrest you, but you're not gonna get in trouble for it. And. And let me tell you how that worked out for her.

[Cindy Overton]

Kind of like the. The counselors that report.

[Co-host (possibly another Overton or regular guest)]

We're gonna. We're cops.

[Woody Overton]

The 911 domestic violence calls and we're just going to start sending marriage counselors. Yeah, that lasted too. So just like Boudin lasted, being sworn in on January 8 after running on that promise to not prosecute any lower level offenses.

[Co-host (possibly another Overton or regular guest)]

Well, Boudin.

[Woody Overton]

I said it was he. Boudin lasted just two years as the San Francisco da. And the people were like, holy, it's not working. So they recalled him, Right?

[Cindy Overton]

Yeah.

[Woody Overton]

And had a new election.

[Co-host (possibly another Overton or regular guest)]

So as it should have, I guess you had to try it.

[Woody Overton]

And that's probably when your tourism won the fucking tank too.

[Co-host (possibly another Overton or regular guest)]

But in response to.

[Woody Overton]

I used to love to go to San Francisco. I mean, it's a great fucking city. Great city, great melting pot. Kind of like New Orleans in the French Quarter, you know?

[Co-host (possibly another Overton or regular guest)]

But in response to pushing for his clients to be released through the rehabilitation program, his attorney Grant acknowledged the extremely tragic case that he said was overcharged.

[Woody Overton]

Okay, so let's talk about this for just a second.

[Co-host (possibly another Overton or regular guest)]

You steal a car, you're on parole.

[Woody Overton]

You steal a car, smoke a bowl of meth, you get drunk, you run over a sick. It doesn't matter what age they are, but it's like a 62 year old and a 27 year old as they're crossing the crosswalk.

[Co-host (possibly another Overton or regular guest)]

I'm just pretty sure they got the lights and shit. So you ran a light and you killed them.

[Woody Overton]

But your case has been overcharged. Okay.

[Co-host (possibly another Overton or regular guest)]

He says, I want to acknowledge that this is an extremely tragic case. Mr. McAllister and I both offer our sincere condolences to the family of Ms. Abe and Ms. Platt. And I assure you that Mr. McAllister mourns for them and their families every day.

[Woody Overton]

Yeah.

[Co-host (possibly another Overton or regular guest)]

He remains open and willing to apologize to the families for the part in.

[Woody Overton]

Their loved ones deaths.

[Co-host (possibly another Overton or regular guest)]

How about going and paying for their.

[Woody Overton]

Funeral services and going to all the Christmases and.

[Co-host (possibly another Overton or regular guest)]

And birthdays and all. Mother, you can't.

[Woody Overton]

You. Anyway, this other up professional in this case, this lawyer says he said Grant.

[Co-host (possibly another Overton or regular guest)]

He still says he does not believe his client got a fair shake for his alleged crimes. He says, we have always believed that this case was overcharged and we always intended to seek diversion. We were waiting to file a motion for diversion until after the preliminary hearing because we would have had a better idea of what charges remain after a judge reviewed evidence and testimony. However, instead of having a preliminary hearing in March, the district Attorney's office assembled a secret grand jury where the defense was not present and therefore I did not get to question any of the evidence or cross examine any of the witnesses. I am still waiting to receive the full transcript from the grand jury which has only been turned over in part, and we cannot proceed to trial without having received and reviewed that transcript in full. For now, we are seeking a course.

[Woody Overton]

Consideration and approval for diversion.

[Co-host (possibly another Overton or regular guest)]

Grant said that if his client is allowed to be released, he would receive treatment including regular check ins and electronic monitoring like that worked before. McAllister would also be sent to live in a long term residential facility. Study after study shows that targeted heavily supervised treatment programs like the kind offered via diversion are less expensive and promote long term safety far more than incarceration. That's all Mr. Grant's stating. Mr. Grant, he murdered two ladies. They take it to a secret grand jury and you're not getting the whole transcript ever.

[Woody Overton]

I don't know what law school you went to. And this is called a secret grand jury for a reason. Okay? So the, the. He is not eligible for mental health diversion because of the DUI charge. This what the DA's office offer? This is what the district attorney's office ruled.

[Co-host (possibly another Overton or regular guest)]

In response, Grant said, I'm gonna file an opposition to the DA's position.

[Woody Overton]

Anyway. McAllister is due back on court on October 28, and protesters promised to be there again to try and block him from being set free. The judge denied any comment.

[Co-host (possibly another Overton or regular guest)]

Get the fuck out of Dodge. 91 times. 91 times, if I fucking jaywalk 91.

[Woody Overton]

Times, I'd be in prison.

[Co-host (possibly another Overton or regular guest)]

91 charges. That's the ones he got called for.

[Cindy Overton]

Exactly.

[Co-host (possibly another Overton or regular guest)]

He's done 91,000 charges.

[Cindy Overton]

That's excessive though.

[Co-host (possibly another Overton or regular guest)]

Now you think about. Just give that a bill for 91 times that the officers, that the taxpayers had to pay the officers to arrest this, spend their time doing, responding to the call, investigating the call, arresting him, taking him downtown to be booked.

[Woody Overton]

Then the correctional officers got to book him.

[Co-host (possibly another Overton or regular guest)]

That's another six, seven, eight hours. Then he's got to be housed 91 fucking times.

[Woody Overton]

And they keep letting him out. Keep letting him out, keep letting him out.

[Co-host (possibly another Overton or regular guest)]

Give him a bill for that and tell them, you know what, motherfucker? Go to jail until you pay off.

[Woody Overton]

All these bills and pay off these funerals and pay off these families who lost their breadwinners and pay off these people's salaries for the rest of lives.

[Co-host (possibly another Overton or regular guest)]

Then come talk to me about a.

[Woody Overton]

Fucking pretrial diversion program.

[Cindy Overton]

Exactly.

[Woody Overton]

In Louisiana, the. They have had a very high success rate in drug Courts. And I agree. And it started after meth, really after crack cocaine, but it really took off after meth. And there are a lot of huge success stories and Mamacare North Carolina can tell you some of them. And the failure rate is. Is not that high on those. I think it's like only 20% recidivated versus like 50% get out of prison. But the, the. But there's certain restrictions. Your crime has to not be a crime of violence. All right, Meaning, yeah, okay, I got high. I had dope on me. Yeah. It's my first time offense.

[Co-host (possibly another Overton or regular guest)]

I'm.

[Woody Overton]

I'm eligible. And I agree there should be programs like that.

[Cindy Overton]

Right?

[Woody Overton]

This was arrested 91 times. He does not deserve a chance at a first offender program.

[Cindy Overton]

Absolutely not.

[Woody Overton]

This fucking lawyer.

[Co-host (possibly another Overton or regular guest)]

You know. Well, yeah, I know everybody has the.

[Woody Overton]

Right to defense, but this, this one is absurd. This is a waste of taxpayers money. It's a waste of courtroom time. It's a waste of everyone's time. This motherfucker is never going to change. 91 times he got caught. He's now up for murder.

[Co-host (possibly another Overton or regular guest)]

This case hasn't gone trial yet.

[Cindy Overton]

Yeah, and.

[Woody Overton]

But they're going to release him for some other bullshit and whatever. Him them up. Professional. That's her kids, y'. All. Or my brothers and sisters. They hurt someone outside and they like to sleep in late. Well, they got a squirrel or a bird or something.

[Co-host (possibly another Overton or regular guest)]

Go get them. Oh, now the bad thing about that is they'll. They'll fucking destroy everything in there. That.

[Woody Overton]

Evidently a squirrel. Something got into one of our outer rooms. Look, the dogs would get on it, but they. They don't care. It's like Chevy Chase's Christmas Vacation where the dog is chasing the squirrel around the house, knocking over everything and ruining everything. And. But it's not a crime. Hey, our dogs are not being allowed to roam free. The. But they are trying to kill somebody.

[Cindy Overton]

Yeah, they are.

[Woody Overton]

And eat probably a bird. Bird just doesn't deserve to be in here. They're defending their. I hear the bird flapping. Okay. As he eats the bird.

[Cindy Overton]

Exactly.

[Woody Overton]

All right. For you bird lovers out there, before you get offended, I don't have anything else. How about you?

[Cindy Overton]

No, I don't.

[Woody Overton]

Y' all have a great, great weekend. A little bit cooler temperatures here. We're supposed to get a little bit of rain and which you try to be working on these food plots and getting ready for hunting season and everything else. But we love y'. All. We appreciate y'.

[Cindy Overton]

All.

[Woody Overton]

And boy, boy, boy. All patron convicts, you got your Commercial free early release on the next hashtag justice for Bradley and A.O. with Ms. Lulibelle. And I mean, last week when we released it on Thursday. Commercial free early release. They already had people in the woods looking on Friday.

[Cindy Overton]

Yeah.

[Woody Overton]

And before it got released to the general public on Saturday, then really went crazy. So. But you know what? Let them work that angle while I'm working mine.

[Co-host (possibly another Overton or regular guest)]

Right.

[Woody Overton]

Because they know it anyway.

[Co-host (possibly another Overton or regular guest)]

But you got nothing and I got nothing.

[Woody Overton]

Happy weekend, y'.

[Commercial Narrator 2]

All.

[Woody Overton]

Love you. I'm Woody Overton.

[Cindy Overton]

Cindy Overton.

[Woody Overton]

Holler, y' all later. Peace.

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