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Foreign. Hello, everybody, and welcome to this episode of True Crime. Time for Wednesday, October 2nd, 2025. And I'm Woody Overton.
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Cindy Overton.
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Happy October falls upon us. Yep, yep, yep, yep, yep.
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I looked for a gold shirt to wear too, like go with Octobery polish.
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That's not why I picked it. This is the first shirt I got to in the closet. The I've never dressed folly except for hunting clothes. But anyway, lots of stuff, y'. All. Lots of stuff. And hashtag just for Bradley, hashtag justice for ao Hashtag just miss Barbara Blunt and hashtag justice for Haley is coming, y'. All. Tune in to this week's episode and the investigation is ongoing. Please continue to call on your tips. The. The. The heat is on. And if it's working, I can't tell you how it's working because can't give away the good stuff, right? Don't want the. The bad people to know, but we know. But keep calling it in. And I love it, love it, love it. Thank you lifers and appreciate it. So what do you have?
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I have a.
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And thank you, patron of convicts.
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We're going to start off in Worcester, Massachusetts.
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Okay.
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And it was the summer of 2017. And there was a just a basic, ordinary family gathering in August of that year. And the summer evening was filled with people who knew and trusted one another. Kind of like a barbecue, just everybody get together into summer. But among the guests was a man named Joshua Hubert. And he was a longtime friend of the family. He was someone they had welcomed to into their home many times before. But in the early hours after the event that, the morning after that, trust was shattered by Joshua. So this is what he did. Sometime around 2:30am There was a 7 year old little girl that was sleeping in her chair. In a chair. And Hubert quickly picked her up, carried her out of the house and put her in his car. Then the next 90 minutes were horrific for this poor little girl. During the drive, Hubert strangled and suffocated the child. At one point, he was forcing a bag over her head and trying to shut it with a rope. Eventually, he then stuffed her into the trunk of his vehicle and he drove her to the I290 bridge over Lake Quinzigamond. He wrapped her in a blanket, still dressed in her pajamas, and threw her off the bridge into the dark water below, leaving her for dead. But the little girl didn't die. Despite the shock and the trauma and the weight of the blanket pulling her down, she somehow managed to swim nearly 100 yards to shore, wet Cold and terrified, she stumbled through the night until she reached a nearby home and knocked on the door for help. Incredibly, she had survived the ordeal that was meant, obviously, to kill her. Later, she would testify that at one point during the attack, she actually pretended to be dead, hoping that Huber would stopped if he believed that she wasn't breathing. She was 7, right? An investigation that followed was swift. And Hubert, who had been at the family gathering that night, was arrested within days and charged with kidnapping, attempted murder, strangulation, and aggravated child rape. The victim, only 7 years old at the time, which I've mentioned quite a few times, was too young to understand the full scope of what had happened to her. She didn't disclose the details of the sexual assault until 2022, saying she hadn't been able to comprehend or process it when she was younger. During the investigation, forensic testing revealed sperm cells on the girl's underwear from the night of the attack. However, DNA testing showed that those samples did not match Hubert. And so that fact would later complicate the prosecution's case of the sexual assault charges. And it took years for the case to make its way through the courts. But finally, in September of this year, more than eight years after the crime, Joshua Hubert stood trial. And now the victim is 15 years old. And she testified about that night that changed her life forever. The judge heard how Hubert had kidnapped her, assaulted her, tried to kill her twice, first by suffocation, then by drowning, and how, against all odds, she had survived. And after deliberation, the jury convicted Hubert on multiple charges. Two counts of attempted murder, kidnapping of a child under 16, and strangulation and suffocation. However, they acquitted him on the two counts of aggravated child rape, citing lack of definitive DNA evidence connecting him to that part of the crime. But the conviction marked the end of an eight year fight for justice. And although they, you know, she's now a teenager, she continues to heal from the trauma. And prosecutors prepare to push for the maximum sentence possible. And as of the most recent court filings, Hubert's sentencing date has not yet been set. But he obviously faces decades behind bars.
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That's crazy.
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I know, right? Yeah.
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That poor child. Strong child, right?
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Well, strong children, right? And resilient. Well, let's go to Bronx, New York, and I'm gonna try to play some audio, and then I'll tell you the story.
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Good evening. I'm Jessica Moore.
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Welcome back. I'm Dick Brennan. The Bronx mother wants justice for her daughter after a group of teenagers brutally attacked her and her puppy while out for a Walk.
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It happened on Waring Avenue in Allerton. Jennifer Bisram spoke mother as police search for packers.
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The assault was caught on camera.
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And we do want to warn you the video is disturbing.
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It's hard to watch an 11 year old girl out for a walk with her 4 month old puppy, sucker punched and brutally beaten by a group of teens.
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Her face was like completely unblocked.
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The horrific incident caught on camera. At one point, one of the attackers even turned to the dog kicking it so hard he goes flying. Good Samaritans, including a man and woman driving by stepped in before it could get any worse. Days later, the child's mother, Neliana Garcia still can't bear to watch the video.
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I feel like why I didn't go there at that moment and save her.
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Garcia says her daughter suffers from seizures. Her puppy Leo has been helping to.
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Prevent them traumatized chicken sleep seizure come back.
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Police say the assault happened Monday evening just before 6. The mayor posting on X this is absolutely horrifying. No child should ever endure such a brutal and senseless attack.
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She say, mommy they a bad person. They will come and catch us. I say no, that's not gonna happen.
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For the family's safety, Garcia doesn't want us to show her daughter's face.
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See your daughter crying, asking why me?
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Tell me I want.
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She said she's happy Leo wasn't seriously hurt too.
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The girl with older friends beat my daughter so bad.
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As for why anyone would wanna hurt her daughter, Garcia says one of the teens tried to hit her daughter once a nearby park.
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And she say you gave a mean look to my little brother. I need Justin. Today is my daughter but tomorrow can be yours.
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And police say this is where that attack took place, about a half a mile from the family's home. They say the investigation is ongoing. So far no arrests. In the Allerton section of the Bronx. Jennifer Bisram, CBS News.
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A crazy 11 year old walking her puppy. And on the video, y', all, it really is graphic. It shows the swarm of teenagers much bigger than 11 year old come in and they just beat the dog out of her. And the dog, when they kicked the dog, it went flying the puppy and the puppy's like a foot long.
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Yeah.
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Just apparently because she looked at her one of the bad guy's brother. Wrong made a bad girl's brother. Yeah, whatever.
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And at a park on another day. Yeah, I mean that's some prison. You killed in prison for looking at somebody wrong. They perceive you look at them wrong. But in the Bronx in a park when you're 11 when you're 11 and thank God those people did swarm in and you see vehicle stop and they jumped down, they ran the kids off who catch those little and put them.
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All in juvenile detention Let them look at somebody wrong.
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Yeah teach them what you know what it's the means yeah send it to non hug a thug program and I'm sure they're gonna end up in prison one day anyway.
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Sad stupid. Well it is stupid now you know I don't like that word but oh stupid act was for sure. Well I've got an 80 year old case so in the spring of 1946, a scary discovery on the banks of Oregon's Willamette river set off one of the state's oldest and most haunting murder mysteries. On April 12, near the quiet community of Oak Grove, just south of Portland, a burlap sack was floating on the surface of the river. And inside, police found the torso of a woman. And it was tightly bound with rope and wire.
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Yep, people just don't know the body's going to float no matter what.
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At some point, and at some point that happened in the days and months that followed, more body parts began to surface. On April 13, the victim's arms and right thigh were discovered downstream near Willamette Falls. Over the next several months, searchers located additional remains, including portions of her legs and even a severed head, along with clothing believed belonged to the victim. All of it was carefully wrapped and dumped in rivers and waterways near Clackamas County. The brutality of the killing stunned investigators, and medical examiners determined that the woman, described as a white female between 30 and 50 years old, was petite and built, had died from blunt force trauma to the head. Only after her death had the killer dismembered her body and packaging and disposing of her remains in various locations. Newspapers at the time dubbed her as the Oak Grove Jane Doe. But despite public appeals, sketches and a high profile investigation, her identity remained a mystery. Police chased down countless leads, but none panned out over the decades. Physical evidence was, you know, degrading and some of it was lost. And the case, like so many of that error, went cold. But more than 78 years later, investigators are giving the victim a new chance at justice. Earlier this month, detectives with the Oregon State Police human identification program made a breakthrough. After combing through old records and cemetery archives, they identified a grave in Mountain View Cemetery in Oregon City. Mark Simply unknown woman dash 1946. Inside were partial remains believed to belong to Oak Grove Jane DOE. So on September 22nd of this year, forensic experts exhumed the remains and began a new round of testing. And of course, they were using modern forensic science, advanced DNA technology, and historical record analysis. And investigators are now working to finally put a name to the woman and potentially identify her killer. Detectives say they're hopeful. In recent years, dozens of decades old cold cases around the United States have been solved thanks to forensic genealogy and a technique which is we all know it's the technique that matches crime scene DNA to family members through genealogy databases. If successful, this case could reveal who the victim was, where she came from, and why someone would, you know, go to such horrific lengths to erase her from existence. So they really don't have much more, but at least they're continuing to put the pieces together.
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Well, I hope they successfully solve it.
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Me, too.
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See mintmobile.com justice for everyone 1. It's time for effort of professionals going back to New York. Swell close to New York City, but it involves a NYPD detective. He's in trouble. So. And he got arrested. What? What did he do? Choir minds want to know. He got arrested after he flashed his gun to threaten a stripper outside a Long island jiggle joint, asking her, have you ever been shot, Emma? Yes, sir. And this, his name is Ryan Olson. He was called on camera lifting his shirt and showing a gun tucked in his waistband to dance her outside the Carousel Lounge. Carousel Carousel Lounge in Huntington station. Olson, who's 37 years old, lives nearby, approached the 23 year old stripper as she was smoking a blunt in her car outside the club around 3am he said, Do you know when Bambi's coming out? And referring to another dancer. He then asked her to text Bambi and ask her when she's coming out. But the victim with the unnamed woman, she's, she's like, I'm not helping. I'm sure you know, just flat out refused. Yeah, well, that's when the New York's finest, you know, 37 year old detective began to argue with her.
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Get Bambi out here.
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Well, he's a, he's a cop in NYPD's warrant section who tracks down wanted criminals, right? Yeah, people have got paper and on the run. But then that's when he pulled up his shirt so she could see his gun and ask, have you ever been shot? And this is what the dancer told the Suffolk county cops. The woman started screaming, get the away. Get the away. And called her boss inside the club for help. As she began driving away, the detective at first had an oh moment. He tried to calm her down, but then he was like that and he got in his car and drove away. Well, guess what? The nightclub already had the gumshoes name because he had to provide his driver's license to get in. Earlier in the evening.
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Oh.
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The Suffolk county police department investigated and found surveillance video showing Olson pulling up his shirt and flashing his firearm. And the manager at the club refused to comment on the incident. Right. But on Thursday afternoon, six strippers sat at the the U shaped bar, which is where the stage would be. Right. You know, the patrons sit around and put up their dollar bills or whatever. And there were Six. Six strippers sitting around the the bar. And it's always dimly lit like blue lights or whatever. And it was decorated for Halloween with paper skeletons, pumpkins and orange and black balloons. That's your jam. I didn't decorate it right so. But olson, who's a 2010 graduate of John Jay College of Criminal justice, he made $257,000 last year as a warrant.
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Server because you get paid.
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Well I'm sure different you let me finish. They're gonna tell you it's extra duty details how they make their money. But anyway. He pled not guilty to charges of menacing with a gun. As a Raymond it said Detective Olson is a respected 15 year member of the New York City Police Department. As what his lawyer pretty brill said he's innocent until proven guilty. Well, the NYPD's Internal Affairs Bureau investigates when a police officer is arrested. And Olson could be fired as a result of the charges. Now, not his first rodeo. Olson has had 23 misconduct allegations filed against him. Nine of them which were substantiated. Meaning they. They so y' all when they do I you if it's not something that you could be criminally prosecuted for that they substantiated or unsubstantiated. Because a lot of people do make bullshit claims. Nine of the 23 have been substantiated. I'm sure the other ones, they just didn't have enough evidence that the most recent allegations were for abuse of authority. For improper use of body worn camera in 2023, probably turned it off. And for a vehicle search in 2021 and were substantiated by the independent watchdog Civilian Complaint Review Board. He received formal training and peers to have lost vacation days as a result of those incidents. Right. What the. Bro, why don't you leave Bambi alone? Yeah, he must have been in there earlier and like Bambi and Halloween decorations and then the girl outside wouldn't help. He's like, I show you my gun, you better call Bambi. I know, dumbass. No, the. Anyway, 23 is a lot. You know, I was attached to Internal Affairs. I don't think anybody had it. I mean we had our frequent flyers, but I don't think anybody had a quarter of that amount against them. So there you go. Up professional.
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Very, very effed up.
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It's time for worldwide crime. Foreign.
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To Pakistan. And there was a teenager from Lahore and he's been sentenced to a hundred years in prison for murdering his entire family. Okay, this shows you the state of the time, the state of the Times, but. So the story begins back in 2022 and there was a 14 year old named Zayn Ali and he spent most of his days locked in his room. And he played a popular game called Pub G, and it's that is short for Player Unknowns Battlegrounds, and it's a multiplayer battle royale game where up to 100 players parachute onto an island, scavenge weapons and fight until only one person or team remains. It's competitive, intense and highly addictive, especially for young players. And Zane was one of them. He was described by his family members as a die hard player who would become angry and withdrawn when things didn't go his way during a game. So one night, Zane had a very difficult time and he had been playing PUBG for hours when he reportedly missed an objective in the game, which caused him to lose. When his mother, nahid, who was 45 years old, scolded him for spending too much time gaming, Zayn snapped. And in a moment of rage, he took his mother's licensed pistol from the home. Then he walked into the room where his family was sleeping and opened fire. By the time it was over, four members of his family were dead. His mother, his 20 year old brother Tamir, and his two sisters, one 15 year old and 10 year old. All were shot while they slept. And after the killings, Zane threw the gun in a nearby drain and tried to continue his life as if nothing happened. But within days, he confessed to the murders. The case obviously shocked the country and people were, you know, confused as to how a teenager could commit such an unthinkable act over a video game. So during the trial, prosecutors presented evidence showing that Zayn had become obsessive and volatile over pubg, often playing for hours and showing signs of aggression when he lost. And they argued that the game had consumed his life to the point that reality and anger blurred together. But because Zane was only 14 years old at the time of the killing, he was too young to face the death penalty under Pakistani law. But in September of this year, a Lahore court handed him down a 100 year prison sentence and it was broken into four consecutive life terms, one for each victim. The judge also ordered Zayn to pay a fine of four million Pakistani rupees. And during sentence, the court noted a game had become more powerful than the bonds of family, calling it a tragic example of how unchecked anger and online addiction can destroy lives. So today he's serving his life sentences behind bars. PUBG itself has faced ban restrictions in the country in the past due to concerns over Violent behavior linked to the game.
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Yeah, I don't know about I believe that shit. The I think it's more of a combination of everything. I mean, or this, you know, natural air, sun's big in the game and then in a game with him doesn't make you a killer. The I mean it is what it is. Takes all kinds to make the world go around. I don't get it.
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Right. Yeah.
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It's time for effed up professionals. Well, seems like I'm on a theme today. We're going to New Orleans, Louisiana and the former New Orleans 911 Commission director. His ass is in a crack. All right. It because of New Orleans jury. Jury convicted the former New Orleans 911 director Terrell Morris on all counts stemming from a 2023 car crash involving his agency owned vehicle, including malfeasance in office, impersonating an officer, injuring public records and insurance fraud. So the local wwl which I've been on says it took jurors less than an hour to return that verdict. Now the crash happened in May of 2023. Prosecutors said Morris used flashing red and blue lights in the city owned vehicle to impersonate a peace officer. He's a 911 dispatcher. He's not a cop or he's over 911 dispatch. And he also failed to comply with a standard operating procedures requiring him to undergo drug and alcohol testing. Anytime you're in a public owned vehicle and you're a cop, you get in a crash, your ass is going to get drug tested, period. But the jury also found that Morris retroactively changed department on car crashes in city owned vehicles. The Orleans Parish Communications District rules as were provided to WWL that investigated the crash state if injuries are reported, the operator of the vehicle must take a drug and alcohol test as soon as possible. The director of Human Resources should be contacted for the name and location of the testing facility. Now this policy is back in May 14th of 2019, seven days after Morris was involved in his crash. And it's guess what? Signed by Morris himself. So he makes up the policy after, after. But he wrote he dated before the crash. So I mean after the crash, so it didn't affect him. So WWF is doing some pretty good investigation here. So the TV station reports it appears this policy was altered. It has a version that reads the operator of the OPCD Orleans Parish vehicle must take a drug and alcohol test as soon as possible. The director of Human Resources should be contacted for their name and location testing facility. The words if injuries are reported do not appear. Yeah. So after the guilty verdict, Orleans Criminal District Judge Simone Levine ordered Morris to be held in jail until a sentencing date on October 1. Meanwhile, the OPCD's current executive director, Carl Fassold, says agency just wants to move on. He said the jury has spoken. This chapter of OPCD's history is now closed. And we will continue to focus on our daily service to the residents, visitors, and our public safety partners in the great city of New Orleans. Right. Just put a fucking scandal behind. But yeah, over the years, everything from what's her name, she's still on death row, murdering her partner and a PD cop. The. At one point in the early 90s, they were the lowest. When I was going to go to work there, they were lowest paid police department in the United States.
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Yeah.
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And they've made a lot of changes over the years, but boy. And they always said no PDF stood for no other police departments. And. And. But a lot of great people down there too, like Matt Patan and. And them friends of mine. And it is what it is, but idiot. I mean, I guess you could get away with that kind of. I'm not going to get in a crash and use lights and. Well, you work in an office. You don't need strobes. And in your car, other than make people get out of the way. Yeah, that's an effed up professional.
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That is a effed up professional.
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All right, you roll.
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Going to San Antonio.
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San Antonio, Texas? Yes, Bear County.
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A few days ago, a man walked into a Louis Vuitton store in San Antonio at La Cantera. And you're very familiar with La Contera.
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Used to go there once a year.
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Yep.
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To provide consulting, y'. All.
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And they. I guess they probably followed your. What you would have told them to do. But there was a man wearing a long black wig, a face mask, a blue jacket and beige sweatpants as he entered the Louisville.
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Say a long blue wig.
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A long black wig.
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Okay.
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And a blue jacket.
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Okay.
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And he walked in and he was very calm and deliberate. He knew exactly what he was going to do. And he walked right up to the display cases.
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They have a shopping list. He already had a buyer for it at half price.
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So once inside the store, he pulled out a pair of wire cutters and began cutting the security cables that held the handbags in place.
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Again, a professional.
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In a matter of minutes, he collected about seven bags and walked out of the store.
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That's probably like 20, 30 grand easy. Yeah.
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Video taken by a customer, which was a Tik Tok user named Jessica Oler. She captured the suspect inside the store snipping the wires, grabbing the bags, and walking out with. With all of them. And in the clip, you can even hear someone say, oh, no, don't do that.
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Right.
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According to San Antonio police, the theft occurred about 25 minutes before closing time.
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Always opening and closing.
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The manager reported the suspect used wire cutters to bypass security attachments. Employees did not intervene during the theft. And the viral video with over 1.6 million views shows the suspect walking freely through the store while collecting merchandise. But as of right now, the suspect has not been identified. Obviously, the San Antonio Police Department is investigating, and there's been no value established for the stolen bags. But obviously, we know that they cost thousands of dollars.
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Here's the deal. They. He's. They're not from there. First of all, they. And I had the chain of places. The only stores authorized sell Rolexes in. In Louisiana. But they're all over the country, the same branch, and they had one at La Cantera. And. But the. I had it in the policy, you know, somebody comes in suspicious. They scouted them out before that.
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Yeah.
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They didn't just walk in that store and do whatever. They sent somebody else in the scout around. And I said, no videos allowed in the store. You know why? Because people will turn on the phones and walk around holding the phones by the side to show where all the cases are and what's in there, etc. And it's always open in the closing time. Almost always, yeah. And. But when you see this person and if you're aware and they know that you see them scouting, they're not coming back.
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Right.
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And. But. And then you. You call that in to headquarters, and they disseminate those photographs to all the stores that this cat shows up. These people show up, be on alert, because you're about to get robbed. And it works.
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Yeah.
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And they move on to the next store. But they. They literally go coast to coast to all these. Every Louis Vuitton store or whatever, and they pick out the easiest one, the easiest mark, and they'll have the. This organized crime is a lot of it. They'll get orders for 10 different bags. Or like, when the new Rolex will come out, it's advertised coming out. They were like, they. It's a $60,000 watch. The guy calls up and says, I'll buy it for 30,000, get it for me. And. And they go get us $30,000. And for five minutes of your time. Yeah, that's pretty good.
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Payday.
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Payday, right?
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Yep.
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Get me started on all that. Right, the. I don't know, the. Well, let's go to Cross the Pond. It's time for Worldwide Crime. Tell you the location in a second. Well, we are going across the pond where a man has been sentenced to life imprisonment for the murder of a woman in her own house. So Matthew Benbaugh, who's 34 years old, will serve a minimum of 20 years and 10 months in jail after bludgeoning Leanne Williams to death with a frying pan, scissors and a knife. And this was when this was in Swansea. Now, Ms. Williams was found dead in her flat in the Townhill area in February, having suffered extensive injuries, including blunt and sharp force injuries to her face and neck. Now, the Swansea Crown Court heard Baden Bow, who had recently been released from prison, or they say on license, what that means on parole, y'. All, at the time of the attack, he had murdered Ms. Williams with a pitiless ferocity after she invited him into her home. Look at this winner. He just got out of prison. Ms. Williams, 47, was reported missing and police wouldn't check and they found her in her flat, her apartment, with her clothing cut and torn and her breast and genitals exposed. The weapons used in the murder were found near her body. They were stained with her blood and guess what else they had? Traces of Baden Bile's DNA and he had recently been released on prison. If you're from there, they could call it on license, but on parole following a conviction for assault and emergency worker. Now, Bad Bow has not provided any explanation for murdering Ms. Williams throughout the investigation, but he did plead guilty and the court was told forensic analysis showed evidence of Bad Bow and Miss Williams having had sexual intercourse. But it was not clear whether this consensual or whether it happened before or during or after the murder. Let me tell you something. You beat someone to death, frying pan, scissors, etc. Etc. And of course he's always going to say, but he just took a plea like a little bitch, but he's always going to say, oh, yeah, it was consensual. No, it wasn't. And you, you brutally raped and murdered her. So the judge said, Judge Paul Thomas said, you were invited into Leanne Williams flat while you were there. You subjected her to a prolonged and savage and merciless attack. You carried on with your life over the next few days as though nothing had happened. In. The judge continued said the exceptional ferocity of the attack in Ms. Williams own home, the unimaginable terror she would have experienced in her Final moments and the state in which she left her body were taken to account when I reached my sentence.
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Yeah.
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And he then sentenced Baden Bow to life imprisonment with a minimum term of 20 years and 10 months. That's pretty good, Ringling. Right? The, the. You know, we heard D stories where they get a lot less times.
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Yeah.
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But Ms. Williams family told the court that they were troubled by B's release from prison prior to the attack and the apparent lack of supervision. Despite his history of violence, he has previous convictions for burglary, possession of an offensive weapon, dangerous driving, battery and assault an emergency worker. After he was sentenced, the family said in a statement. Leanne was beautiful, strong and kind. She loved nature and animals and had a special connection to horses. She aspired to help others by giving them the opportunity to access specially trained horses and ponies who were sensitive to mental health and other issues. She will be missed dearly. And we would like to thank the South Wales Police for their continued support and the due diligence of their investigation team. What a shitty whitey, hey.
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Yeah.
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Yeah. And it sounds like a kind lady trains horses to work with disabled people and stuff. And then this dude comes in there and rapes her, beats her, stabs her, does everything but be nice to her.
C
Yeah, yeah.
A
Killed her.
B
He was nice to her long enough to get into that house.
A
Yep. And he killed her and had her on Smile and that again. We ought to have a segment called that's why they Built Prisons. Yeah, that's why they build prisons across the world. Because this doesn't deserve to be Walk Free.
B
That's actually a really good name for.
A
A podcast and I have enough podcasts. Have enough. Yeah. It's so busy with. Golly. I wish I could explain to lifers what it's like to be chasing down all these leads and working Bradley and AO's case that it just doesn't stop us like 24 hours a day. And there's certain things, you know, like according to Coco's, I was still doing the interviews with the family and stuff on air as I was working it. Right. And. And called, you know, a great break, stirred up the pot and the same. Same type thing and then Mary Poo shows and same thing. I'd record the five episodes with the family and was we were releasing one a week and got the break in the case. The. This case is so effing complex. I know who did it.
C
Right.
A
I know who did it. I know who did in both instances and I know why. I know everything but the now I'm in the process of building it beyond a reasonable doubt. And it's going to take a minute or it might not. It might not. But they. I'm not going to tell them how long it's going to take. But y' all just keep calling in your stuff. The more you call in. Yeah. It might take me a little bit longer. But be more to be able to be on a reasonable doubt.
B
Exactly.
A
And, and we're going to continue to work it. We're going to do some different stuff on the, on the case this week and next weekend and I think the next week too. Unless something, unless I could do it beyond a reasonable doubt before then. And then, you know, everything's subject to change. And that's one thing you guarantee in these cases. You don't know what's going to happen next, what's going to break it. So if we get on and we're like last week, Morgan and I talking about the pictures and stuff like that, it doesn't mean the case isn't being worked. And I don't know who did that. What. And, and I'm just in the phase of proving it doesn't mean I can't prove it. It means that I'm talking to people and getting the certain witnesses and, and everything else. And when I said come off the fence, I don't give a if they come off the fence or not.
C
Yeah.
A
They. It make it easier.
C
Yeah.
A
But I got them anyway.
C
Yeah.
A
And. And we just got to get beyond a reasonable doubt. So y' all can continue to do hashtag just for Bradley hashtag just for Ao everywhere and continue to share it and continue to talk around the water cooler and everything else because Vernon Parish is on fire.
B
It is. But when you do that, you were you, you speak of certain things like the pictures and whatever and it probably sparks something in someone's head of remembering something that occurred. I mean not probably. It always happens.
A
You start immediately getting every time we drop an episode that the phone blows up every time. Every time. So you're not, you know, so many people are like, oh, I don't want to say anything because my family's still here and I have to live here and da, da, da, da. And but it's weighing heavy on their hearts. And they say it and I get that. And I get those every week. And let away on your heart. I mean these are real human beings. Yeah. Whether in high risk lifestyle and drug abusers. Sure. They were that. But nobody deserves to be murdered.
C
No.
A
Murdered. Look, it's, it's we are four weeks away from being six years for Bradley.
B
Right.
A
And just. Just under four weeks away from being six years. Oliver hasn't known his daddy.
C
Yeah.
A
And six years that. That Bradley's been dead any. And he's out there. I'm not gonna say what.
B
Don't think on that.
A
He's. His body needs to be brought home. He needs to be given a barrel.
C
Yep.
A
Right?
C
Yeah.
A
If nothing else. So I don't have anything else to you.
C
No.
A
We love and appreciate each and every one of y'. All. I'm Woody Overton.
B
Cindy Overton.
A
We'll holler y' all later. Peace.
Host: Woody Overton, Cyndi Overton
Episode Theme: Deep dive into ongoing and historic true crime cases, including a miraculous survival story from Massachusetts, a disturbing child attack in the Bronx, a decades-old Jane Doe cold case in Oregon, and additional updates on unusual crimes and justice efforts.
This episode, hosted by Woody and Cyndi Overton, delivers a compelling mix of horror, resilience, and justice across several true crime cases. The hosts tie in their trademark blend of gritty storytelling, authentic law enforcement perspective, and a steady undertone of advocacy for both victims and cold case investigations. Notable cases discussed include the Joshua Hubert kidnapping and attempted murder in Massachusetts, a child assault in New York's Bronx, the cold case of Oregon's Oak Grove Jane Doe, and bizarre crimes from around the globe. The show also gives a passionate update on ongoing justice campaigns.
[01:47 – 06:39]
Incident Recap:
In summer 2017, at a family gathering, family-friend Joshua Hubert kidnapped a 7-year-old girl as she slept, assaulted and strangled her, wrapped her in a blanket, and threw her off a bridge, leaving her for dead.
Memorable Quotes:
[07:05 – 10:21]
Story Details:
Memorable Quotes:
[10:21 – 14:36]
Investigation Summary:
Memorable Quotes:
Several quick-hit crime updates and “effed up professionals” (notorious law enforcement/official misconduct cases):
[19:05 – 24:54]
[25:08 – 29:28]
[29:28 – 34:18]
[34:23 – 38:41]
Masked suspect calmly uses wire cutters to steal designer handbags on video, then exits undeterred. Organized retail theft is rampant, with criminals often scouting and hitting vulnerable stores.
Woody shares preventative measures from his own security consulting work.
Quote:
[38:41 – 44:33]
[00:36, 45:35 – 48:56]
Woody highlights real-time work on cold cases, notably #JusticeForBradley and “AO”—ongoing community tip campaigns.
Will not reveal details for integrity but urges listeners to keep sharing info: “Keep calling it in. And I love it, love it, love it. Thank you lifers and appreciate it.” [00:30]
Discusses difficulty but commitment to building cases “beyond a reasonable doubt,” addressing rumors that progress is stalled.
Emotional moments about six years passing since Bradley’s disappearance and the pain for families of unresolved cases.
Powerful Moment:
| Timestamp | Quote | Speaker | |-----------|-------|---------| | 06:42 | “That poor child. Strong child, right?” | Cyndi | | 09:15 | “Crazy. 11-year-old walking her puppy. … they just beat the dog out of her.” | Woody | | 12:07 | “The brutality of the killing stunned investigators …” | Cyndi | | 19:05 | “Justice for everyone … He got arrested after he flashed his gun to threaten a stripper outside…” | Woody | | 22:38 | “[Olson] has had 23 misconduct allegations filed against him. Nine of them … substantiated.” | Woody | | 28:30 | “A game had become more powerful than the bonds of family …” | Cyndi | | 34:18 | “[Terrell Morris, NOLA 911] convicted … tried to change policy after his accident to cover his ass.” | Woody | | 38:00 | “They literally go coast to coast … five minutes of your time, that’s pretty good payday.” | Woody | | 42:54 | “You subjected her to a prolonged and savage and merciless attack …” | Judge (quoted by Woody) | | 48:16 | “These are real human beings … nobody deserves to be murdered.” | Woody |
Woody and Cyndi blend candid, sometimes dark humor, empathy for victims, irreverence for the “bad guys,” and a deep commitment to justice. They’re unfiltered (“that’s an effed up professional”), authentic, and hands-on with their audience’s quest for answers.
This episode is packed with survival against odds, shocking brutality, slow-grinding justice, and passionate advocacy. The hosts, through vivid narration and sharp banter, keep the stories immediate and personal. Whether recounting decades-old cases, international family tragedies, or local scandals, they reinforce the human cost—and necessity—of relentless investigative work.
Listeners are reminded: keep sending in tips, keep the hashtags alive, and above all, never forget the victims—no matter how long it’s been.