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Cindy Overton
Foreign.
Woody Overton
Hello everybody, and welcome to this episode of True Crime. Time for Monday, October 20, 2025. And I'm Woody Overton.
Cindy Overton
I'm Cindy Overton bringing you the heat.
Woody Overton
The sweet meat, right?
Cindy Overton
Sweet meat.
Woody Overton
Don't make me think of Ember, her little granddaughter, y'. All. Such a blessing. All right. Hashtag just for Bradley. Hashtag just for ao. We release a episode to all lifers on Saturday. I'm still working the case. Continue calling you tips 313RLRCTIP and there are more tips than ever. And we did miss Lulu Bell's. Yes. More her channeling or whatever they call it. But it's getting such massive responses from everyone, not just the people in burning parish. So I'm gonna we and we. She's getting more and more stuff. Like every day Cindy has more that stuff that's coming through. So we might drop an extra one of those this week because it's just so much. And. And. And it needs to stay out there because it keeps people talking and it keeps the tips coming in. And it. Whether you believe in it, don't believe in it, doesn't matter. This. A lot of people are like, holy shit, this is da da, da da.
Cindy Overton
And I got chills when you said that because when. When it does drop this, what I think is going to be the next one has a map in it.
Woody Overton
Yeah.
Cindy Overton
Because she saw some clouds and got a. A message through the clouds and then found a map that represents it. And so when y' all zero in on that, you're really gonna.
Woody Overton
Yeah.
Cindy Overton
Yeah.
Woody Overton
Okay. All good in the hood. And hashtag just from a Sparber blunt. Hashtag just for Haley. Not really impressed. We're still waiting on the family meeting with the D A. And then we'll let y' all know. And then you just do whatever you want to the. The. We have got this football season. Everybody's at college and doing all this stuff and. Well, unfortunately, we're going to Oklahoma State University in resident halls. Back in our days, we called them dorms, Right. In a resident hall, they had a shooting and it's left multiple victims hospitalized. On Sunday, Officers responded around 3:40am Nothing ever good happens at that time to reports of a shooting at Carreker East Residential Hall. And this according to OSU Police Department. The OSU Police Chief, Michael Beckner, said there were multiple victims, including at least one confirmed OSU student. You know, when I worked at Southeastern PD that the really the problems, the people we have were the people who didn't go to school there that came to hang out with their friends and. But they said all victims are being treated in hospitals in Oklahoma City and Tulsa. According to police, though they didn't immediately provide any updates on their conditions. But a local news outlet coco TV reported three individuals were hospitalized and the police say there's no ongoing threats to the public. And they didn't say if they have any suspects in custody or the suspects were among the injured. But they said the initial reports came in and said the shooting happened following a large private party at an off campus location. And the police said the attendees had left the party and returned to the residence hall where the shooting happened. So I don't know, hopefully everybody's alive. You send your kids to college, I.
Cindy Overton
Mean and then put them in a dorm because they have right that. I never lived in a dorm, but don't they usually have like they have hall monitors?
Woody Overton
Yeah, whatever they call them door monitors or whatever. I think everybody calls us something different.
Cindy Overton
And even when like my sister went to LSU back in the day, someone was sitting there all the time and you had to like check in to the dorm. Yeah, you know.
Woody Overton
Yeah. Well, you know what, that's shed has changed a lot over the years because I know some of my nieces were LSU and they, they're more like condos now. That's three bedrooms. And on one thing and they had males and females living there, like had one of the bedrooms.
Cindy Overton
I mean Sophie in LA at Southeastern, they had to scan their bar like, you know, cards like a hotel, you know, to get in. But that's all right.
Woody Overton
The I'm gonna jump the gun. And foreign professionals going out to Florida to our favorite sheriff. Okay, let's see if I can get this audio to play. The. This is just amazing. So we're going to Florida and Sheriff Grady Judge. Right. Who you know, it's just pretty much a pimp of sheriffs that hell ways makes the bad guys out and calls them out in different ways. So we're going to McDonald's down in Polk County, Florida. And I couldn't tell you the last time I've been inside of McDonald's. I had the McDonald's app when I was driving back forth to the studio and I would stop every morning, get a frappe or whatever. And I mean I probably been 10 years since I've been inside of McDonald's but in Florida, in Polk county at a McDonald's they had an altercation involving a worker and two customers last weekend. And sheriff's calling it a Mac mess after it left one of the men with a minor gunshot wound to the neck. So Sheriff Grub, Sheriff Judd explain in a video posted to social media that McDonald's in the area had become inundated with online orders after several events in the Area let out Sunday morning, like church and right. Like me, I love the app thing. I could hit it two miles out and I get there and they. First thing they ask you, so do you have a code? I'm like, yep. And. And I'd already paid and everything. Right. So Judd said the worker, a yon Yoan Soto, who's 21, politely told Nicholas Jones, who's 18, and Peter Story, who's 20, who pulled up to their drive through and said, hey, sorry guys, we're way behind. Our online orders are overwhelming us. And Soto told the two men that the store couldn't take their order. And well, you know what happens in the world nowadays. Oh my God, you know, it's McDonald's.
News Reporter
The.
Woody Overton
But they started to threaten Soto, all right. And they said, we're going to hang out here.
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Woody Overton
To beat you up. And they threatened to attack the man who just told him, hey, we're busy. We can't take any more orders. And he did that because the manager told him to. And they threatened him with violence, according to Sheriff Judd. So Soto told the men he didn't get off work until 4am and then went back to work. Yeah, right. Sheriff's not first time he's been threatening this shitty world. So Sheriff says, and I'll quote, what do these goober smoochers do? Yes, that's what Sheriff said, what do these goober smooches do? And he added the Jones and Story then parked and entered the restaurant and they continue to threaten them. And he says they're having a Mac argument in the McDonald's over MC hamburgers or lack of MC hamburgers. And he said either Story or Jones.
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Woody Overton
And so to replied, you know what? I also have a gun. He said the manager stepped in between the three men to stop the McArabble. He says, so they continue to threaten the mass shooting because there's customers there with firearms. Judd said, adding that Soto went to get his gun and threatened Jones and Story with it in the main part of the store. I'm pretty sure that's not legal. They have actually have a picture of holding the gun on the guys in the store. So the manager of the McDonald's told story and Jones to leave because they were trespassing. But Jones claimed that only law enforcement can declare he's trespassing. Which Judd cla clarified this. Right. So as the two men tried to grab Soto's gun. Now, yeah, I can. I could see back in the day Working street or whatever. I actually had to grab a gun when the guy pointed at me and stuff like that. But the. If you, if you think this McDonald's employee isn't serious about, hey, I will shoot you. You've already threatened me that you have a gun and you pull out the gun. They have a picture, he's got the gun point at him and they're going to try to grab it. Yeah. What do you think is going to happen? Boom. Right this, you know, it's going to fire. As they tried to grab Soda's gun, he pulled the trigger and shot Story in the neck. They said it's a blessing. It was a very minor wound. But you know what, when you start shooting McGuns, you, you get people's attention and they'll let you.
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Woody Overton
And that's what they did. Judge Judd said Jones then drove Story to a hospital and called the police. Soto fled, but was called back to the restaurant when deputies arrived Southern Point. He's. And he was in trouble. Yeah. Judge explained. He added that Soto cooperated and has been charged with felony tampering with evidence historian Jones was charged with trespass after warning and disorderly conduct. And the sheriff says, listen folks, it's never okay to threaten a mass shooting. It's never okay to threaten to beat people up at a business. And it's never okay to grab your ammunition and your firearm and run after a shooting. He added that Soto did have a right to stand his ground and protect himself. And these guys are threatened to do violence after they've already threatened on the outside of the store and came inside. They created a well founded fear in him and the store manager, he said, and it was just a Mac mess, but we'll sort it out because we're Mac good at investigating Mac crime. Let me play this audio clip for him. And then look, the sheriff's showing all the pictures, etc. The. And now let's see if we can get you the audio clips because there's.
News Reporter
A rabble afoot right now in McDonald's. We could call it a McArabble. And that's not a sandwich. So would they continue to threaten a mass shooting because there's customers there with their firearms? He goes back and retrieves a gun out of his backpack and he comes into the lobby to confront these guys who have threatened him and threatened the store and threatened to shoot the place up. And now he's trying to get them out of the store. The store manager is saying, get out of here. You're trespassing. Whoa. Jones here, he thinks he's a lawyer. I guess he says, nobody can trespass me from this McDonald's beside the McSherriff. Well, listen, the owners or managers can. So now he's trying to protect his manager himself from violence. The store, the customers, they're threatening to mix, shoot up the place, and as they try to grab his gun, pulls the trigger and he shoots Peter's story in the neck. It's a blessing that it was a very minor wound. But you know what? When you start shooting McGuns, you get people's attention, and they'll let you have the restaurant. And that's what they did. So Jones is driving his buddy to the hospital, and he's making a call. Juan Soto now is McScared. So what does he do? He grabs his gun and the casing and the projectile that's now on the floor and flees because he's scared. The sheriff's deputies arrive. They call Juan Soto. He comes back, he cooperates. This investigation takes a while. We have to talk to witnesses. We have to look at the videotape. Oh, you'll get to see the McScrum in just a minute. And we ended up charging Juan Soto was tampering with evidence. That's a felony. We end up charging Jones and Story with trespass after warning and disorderly conduct. Listen, folks, it's never okay to threaten a mass shooting. It's never okay to threaten to beat people up at a business. And it's never okay to grab your ammunition and your firearm and run after a shooting. Now, the reality of it is is he has a right to stand his ground and protect himself. And these guys are threatening to do violence after they've already threatened on the outside of the store and came inside. They created a well founded fear in him and the store manager. It was just a McMass, but we'll sort it out because we're McGood at investigating McCreich.
Woody Overton
Take care. I love him.
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Woody Overton
He's just. He's a pimp. The.
Progressive Insurance Advertiser
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Woody Overton
I. I mean, go out on a limb here and say it was already a McDonald's policy procedure that you can't bring a gun to work.
Cindy Overton
I was.
Woody Overton
I'm sure he's McFired.
Cindy Overton
Yeah.
Woody Overton
McFry's McFar.
Cindy Overton
Yeah, I know.
Woody Overton
But anyway, they. Not really after. I can't. I did it on FTA professionals because, I mean, real life, real crime.
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Woody Overton
Why don't you just call 91 1?
Cindy Overton
Well, one. Why did the manager say to stop taking orders for people that are actually there? Like, why?
Woody Overton
I guess because you can't fill the order. You don't, then you get more and more backed up.
Cindy Overton
Well, in my world, I would shut off the online ordering system.
Woody Overton
Who knows how that works? Does it? Doesn't matter. I've gotten there and several of them. You make the order, like for the frappe, and you pay for it online. And you get there and they're like, they're like I'm sorry, we don't have them, and we can't refund your money.
Cindy Overton
Yeah.
Woody Overton
Do you have a credit card with. I wouldn't use the app if I had the credit card with me, so. But anyway, there you have it. People love them. Some McDonald's.
Cindy Overton
I think they do good hangover food. Not one of them. Oh, sorry.
Woody Overton
So it's good hangover food?
Cindy Overton
Yeah, I guess so.
Woody Overton
So. All right, what do you have? It's time for family matters.
Cindy Overton
We're going to stay in Florida for this one. We're going to Walton County.
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Woody Overton
Been there too many times on October.
Cindy Overton
10Th, and there's a family, they're hanging out at the beach. The family's from Texas.
Woody Overton
A lot cheaper in October, y'. All.
Cindy Overton
Right.
Woody Overton
Half price.
Cindy Overton
And according to Walton County Sheriff's Office at Miramar Beach. Been there, which is in the state's panhandle. Deputies were called to the scene after beachgoers spotted an unattended infant crying in a tent.
Woody Overton
What?
Cindy Overton
Yes. With no adults nearby.
Woody Overton
Okay.
Cindy Overton
So concerned witnesses stayed with the baby and notified law enforcement. When deputies arrived, they found the infant to be safe and confirmed, you know, with nearby witnesses that have been watching the child, that the child had been alone for approximately at that point, an hour.
Woody Overton
Like, did it say how old the.
Cindy Overton
Kid is later on? I think he's six months old. All right, so shortly after the deputies arrived, the parents decide to show up. And they're from Texas, and their name is Brian Wilkes, who's 40 years old, and Sarah Wilkes, who is 37, and they're from the Houston area. The investigators say that the couple admitted to deputies that they had been. They placed their baby down for a nap under the shade of a tent before walking away with their other three children.
Woody Overton
What a fucking stupid ass.
Cindy Overton
They claimed that they, quote, unquote, lost track of time during their stroll and had not taken a cell phone with them. Now, what is taking a cell? Are you gonna call your baby your cell phone and say, hey, we're running a little.
Woody Overton
Pick it up when you hear your ringtones. Yeah.
Cindy Overton
So security video reviewed by the Sheriff's office showed that the parents were away from the tent for nearly an hour before returning. And during that time, thank goodness, they were good people. Bystanders remained with the baby until South Walton Fire Department first responders arrived, and they checked the infant's condition, and it was good. Thankfully, the infant was alert and stable and showed no signs of medical distress. Both parents were taken into custody and were charged with child neglect without great bodily Harm and the couple was booked into the Walton County Jail. And Florida Department of Children and Families took custody of all of the children for a limited time. And then they contacted the family members, like family that lived in Texas, and said, you need to come down here to take care of these kids.
Woody Overton
Yeah, they always try to reach out to family members first.
Cindy Overton
So sheriff deputies, they don't want to.
Woody Overton
Put them in an orphan orphanage.
Cindy Overton
Right. Sheriff deputies described the situation as a serious lapse in judgment and reminded parents of the dangers posed by high heat and unpredictable conditions along the coast.
Woody Overton
Probably wasn't that high of heat in October, but I mean, you don't leave your fucking kid anywhere.
Cindy Overton
Exactly. In a statement that the sheriff's office released, they said, we are thankful this child was unharmed. Even a short period of inattention in the Florida sun can have dangerous consequences. And then the, the parents were released later, but they're pending court proceedings. But on top of like where, I mean, we don't have this information, but where was this tent? And what if someone just drove like walked by and decided, hey, I'm just going to take this baby?
Woody Overton
Way too many. It's so I'm looking at my stories and I got so many stories about kids being snatched.
Cindy Overton
Exactly.
Woody Overton
And it's just stupidity. Stu. Stew, Stew. I know you don't like that word, but they're stupid. I mean, what, what in what world is that?
Cindy Overton
Okay, we're gonna just leave you six.
Woody Overton
Month old baby in a tent on a beach, literally. Well, it, it's October and probably the beach wasn't crowded like all my years going down there for spring break and like that. And there'd be a million people on that beach.
Cindy Overton
So how do you lose track of time when you have an infant? And why, how do you go for a stroll?
Woody Overton
Don't know. Next story. It's time for Worldwide Crime bringing a little more love here and we're going out to Halifax and I do believe anyway, so, hell, 13 year old girl Lindsay Remmer, who went missing from our home in West Yorkshire in 1994. This has been a minute, what, 40 years. And finally a man has been arrested on for being a suspect in her murder. So they said that way back then. Little Lindsay left her home in Hen Bridge near Halifax on Nov. 7 to buy cornflakes from a nearby shop. But she never came home, y'. All. And her body was found five months later weighted down with a stone in the Rochdale Canal about a mile from the town center.
Cindy Overton
Okay.
Woody Overton
West Yorkshire police said a man was arrested on Monday at where?
Cindy Overton
McDonald's?
Woody Overton
Yeah. And that actually rested him inside of one of UK's prisons where he was serving a sentence. Four other offenses. And the police said officers were keeping Lindsey's family updated, adding that the rest was as a result of her continued focus on progressing the investigation. Now, the arrested man was being interviewed by police and was expected to be bailed and returned to prison while inquiries continue. And what that means, y', all, if you get charged even though you're in prison already? Yeah, they got to take you out. They got to take you for whatever jurisdiction they got to book you. The judge will set a bail amount, which you ain't gonna get anyway. The bell be, release his ass back to prison.
Cindy Overton
Right.
Woody Overton
And he can't get out until his shit's taken care of. But meanwhile, they said officers were approaching a number of specific potential witnesses, mainly in the Heaton Bridge and wider Halifax area, who had been identified by the investigation. But little Lindsay, look at her picture. Went to buy some corn flakes. 13 years old and never came home. And you can only imagine if they took the time to wait her body down and they found her five months later, the agony and the torture she suffered. Murder, what have you. Plus the family members, everybody else. But you know what? I always like to talk about a cold case being solved. Right. But I don't have all the information. But it will come out.
Cindy Overton
It will.
Woody Overton
Him and every piece of. Who's murdered someone and got away with it. You're. I just hope you sweat it every day and be looking over your shoulder. One day justice will catch up with you. Bradley strayston's murders.
Cindy Overton
Yeah.
Woody Overton
Ao's murders. Ms. Barbara blunt's murders. And you know, it's time's coming.
Cindy Overton
Yes.
Woody Overton
Time is coming. Y' all keep doing what you're doing and we'll keep doing what we do. All right. What you got?
Cindy Overton
I'm gonna keep us in Florida, but I have basically the opposite of what you just read. So this little girl goes missing and she's going to get corn flakes. Right? She doesn't come home.
Woody Overton
Yeah, I just told it.
Cindy Overton
Yeah. So my story is in Marion County, Florida, we have a 17 year old named Kayden Speight. And he set off panic around the region after sending a text to his family on September 25, and he was claiming that he was abducted by four Hispanic men in a white van and he was shot. All right, so, I mean, imagine if you got that text from one of your kids.
Woody Overton
Right?
Cindy Overton
Right. They've been abducted just like the little girl. Well, deputies rushed to the scene on Southwest Highway 484, where they found Kayden's abandoned truck. And there was a bullet hole in the windshield and what also appeared to be blood spattered across the driver's seat and drag marks in the dirt nearby. His cell phone was smashed. And on the surface, if you're looking at it, you think that there was a violent kidnapping, right?
Woody Overton
Yeah.
Cindy Overton
Okay. Well, law enforcement launched an all out search. They had the helicopters, they had canine units, they had volunteers scouring the area. But investigators began piecing together everything, and that story soon fell apart.
Woody Overton
Didn't make sense. Too many holes in it.
Cindy Overton
Surveillance video from the local Walmart showed Caden earlier the same day. Just in the Walmart, buying a bicycle, buying a sleeping bag and a tent and other items that would seem like he was going on a trip, not someone that was about to be abducted. So tracks matching the bicycle tires were later found near his abandoned truck. Two weeks later, the truth surfaced. On October 14, police found Kadin 25 miles away in Williston, and he was nursing a gunshot wound to his own leg.
Woody Overton
So he faked his shit.
Cindy Overton
He was carrying the same handgun that fired the round through his windshield and the same camping gear he bought before disappearing. So detectives now believe that Kadin had staged the entire abduction and that he shot his own self in the leg to make it look real. And he destroyed his phone to hide the truth. And he fled into the woods to live out the story he'd invented. How crazy is that?
Woody Overton
That is crazy.
Cindy Overton
He was arrested the next day on multiple charges, including discharging a firearm into a vehicle, presenting false evidence, making a false crime report, and possessing a firearm as a minor. And investigators at this point haven't pinpointed the motive, but have digital forensics are offering some clues. So Caden's computer history showed searches for things like how to collect blood without causing pain. Like you.
Woody Overton
Right.
Cindy Overton
And references.
Woody Overton
He's smart enough to do that.
Cindy Overton
And references to Mexican cartels suggesting the building of, you know, his narrative of being kidnapped by four Mexican peoples and people in a white van.
Woody Overton
Mexican people.
Cindy Overton
One elaborate enough to convince his family and authorities that he'd been kidnapped. And they also found that he planned his disappearance days in advance, mapping out where he would hide and how long he could survive off the grid. So Marion County Sheriff says there's no chance that anyone else shot him. And then the end. Cadence elaborate hoax. Wasted countless hours of police manpower. This terrified his family and triggered a whole statewide alert. You know, like, I wish he was.
Woody Overton
Old enough that they make that motherfucker pay every penny of it back.
Cindy Overton
So they say he's now facing serious charges, but they haven't detailed what all those other charges are.
Woody Overton
So the, you know, you heard the stories. I work cases where it's fake rapes and fake kidnappings and like that because people are in trouble for whatever reason. And, and just, I mean, like, not stupid, but we're going to treat it like that in the beginning. And, and just like on Bradley's case, you go down one road, so you get off of it and you get on another road. But the prisons are full of dummies and cameras are everywhere. So it's Monday morning and I haven't made Cindy cry yet. And it's the last story, so I'm just gonna lay it out there for y'. All. Okay? So on Wednesday, October 8, a witness called police about a suspicious activity at an abandoned property in New Britain, Connecticut.
Cindy Overton
Okay.
Woody Overton
All right. Well, the cops get out there and you know what they found a plastic container holding the remains of a badly decomposed child. So let me tell you about it. So they said the remains of a 12 year old girl who had been missing for a year were found inside a container near a Connecticut home. Now the child's mom and two others are charged in connection with her death. You think that's bad? It's about to get a whole lot worse. So like I told you, on Wednesday, October 8, officers with the New Britain Police Department were called to an abandoned building at 80 Clark Street. In response to a report of suspicious behavior. And the New Britain mayor, Aaron Stewart, says, as a mother, this makes me sick to my stomach to be standing here today. In the backyard, officers discovered a large container with what was believed to be human remains. And there were. Later, the remains were identified as those of Jacqueline Mimi Torres Garcia. Now, investigators determined that Jacqueline likely died in the fall of 2024 when her family lived in Farmington. This according to the Farmington Public Safety director Paul Malasso. They said at a press conference said evidence indicates that Jacqueline was the victim of prolonged physical abuse and malnourishment prior to her death. The child's body was kept in a basement and moved when. When her family relocated from Farmington on. In March of 2025. On Sunday, October 12, Jacqueline's mother, Carla Garcia, 29, was arrested and charged with slew accounts, including murder with special circumstances, conspiracy to commit murder with special circumstances, improper disposal of a dead body, and intentional cruelty to a child under the age of 19. And she's being held on $5 million bond. Also on Sunday, Jacqueline's aunt Jacqueline Garcia, who's 28, was arrested and charged with intentional cruelty to a child under the age of 19, risk of injury to a child and first degree unlawful restraint. And she's got a million dollar buying and go to Garcia's boyfriend Jonathan Nanita, who's 30. He was taken into custody on a day later on Monday, October 13th on a felony arrest warrant. He is accused of killing Jacqueline along with Garcia. Authorities say that Nanita brought the container holding the girl's remains to the property on Clark street on Wednesday, October 8th and Jacqueline was homeschooled and the State Department Child Children and Family Services was involved, Stuart said. And on Monday, Susan Hamilton, who's intern DCF commissioner released an update stated saying we can confirm Jacqueline's siblings are safe and have been placed together in state custody. We have already begun a thorough review of her history with the family. It's crazy. They said Jacqueline was a bright, joyful 12 year old who brought laughter and warmth to everyone around her. She was always smiling, loved to dance and had a wonderful sense of humor. I don't, I don't get how the siblings and and you get away with it with the. So y' all a little bit of update on it.
News Anchor
So into those stories in just a moment. But first, the Department of Children and Families is now explaining its involvement with a 12 year old Jacqueline Torres Garcia whose remains were found in New Britain.
Woody Overton
DCF has faced intense questioning since it.
News Anchor
Was revealed the department had been involved with the family.
Ali Jackson
NBC Connecticut's Matt Austin is joining us.
Cindy Overton
Now in studio to break down this.
Ali Jackson
Timeline that they're providing.
News Reporter
Yeah.
News Anchor
So Keisha, Michael, a lot to walk through here. The Department of Children and Families thought its last time seeing Jacqueline Torres Garcia was during a video call earlier this year, but police believe that was actually months after her death. And now there are questions about the identity of the girl who apparently posed as Jacqueline. Now going back, the department says they were first involved with the family in January 2013 when Jacqueline was born and her mother, Carla Garcia was in a detention center. Jacqueline was placed with her father's family and that's where she remained until 2022. Family court documents indicate the girl known as Mimi lived with her grandmother, Patricia Delgado.
Cindy Overton
Only God is helping me.
Woody Overton
God is helping me to pass this process.
Cindy Overton
I've been with her forever and I'm always going to be here. Now.
News Anchor
In May of 2022, DCF says a superior court returned guardianship with Jacqueline back to her mother and father. Including with support from dcf, the prior relatives and the child's attorney. They also interacted with Jacqueline in September that year during an investigation involving her younger siblings. The department says the kids were enrolled in school and seen in the community. During that time, DCF determined the children were safe. That case was later closed. In May of 2024, DCF says Jacqueline attended a medical appointment and between November of 2022 and the fall of 2024, there had been no reports of child abuse or neglect with the family. Jacqueline's mother filed and was granted sole custody by the family court in June 2024, which DCF says it was not involved with. Police say the girl likely died in the fall of that year. Then months later, In January of 2025, DCF was investigating allegations concerning Jacqueline's younger sibling. In a statement, DCF wrote in part, Ms. Garcia stated at the time of our investigation that Jacqueline was being homeschooled and staying temporarily out of state with a relative. In response, DCF conducted a video call with a person who mother claimed to be Jacqueline. But again, police believe Jacqueline had been dead by then. So it's unclear who they actually spoke with. DCF says that information has been turned over to law enforcement and is still actively reviewing the situation. And lawmakers have concerns. And I have a lot of questions about this and I, I want to.
Ali Jackson
See my eyes on those reports, not a report about the report.
News Anchor
And today say Democratic lawmakers have not gotten back to us. But previously the chairs of the children's committee had said DCF had, quote, failed the girl. We're told Jacqueline's siblings are now in state custody. And New Britain schools just provided these documents. Jacqueline's mom filed in August 2024 to pull her daughter out of school and the plan to homeschool her. So lots of questions still, of course, about everything. Mike and Keisha.
Woody Overton
She was. That was around the time of her death. How twisted are you? And yawn. Thank you for always correcting me. I said Connecticut was a Granite State before. We know. I know it's not always good. I still don't know what it is. But the. I'm thinking people are pissed off, right? Because D.C. whatever. And they had a phone call with a girl and it wasn't a girl. And but, you know, this goes way back. This baby was born in prison and they've been bounced back and forth her entire life. Younger, even after she goes missing. They got investigations into younger siblings. Those people are pretty overworked and I get that. But the. At the end of the Day. They didn't murder Mimi.
Cindy Overton
Right.
Woody Overton
Her parents did.
Cindy Overton
Yeah.
News Reporter
And.
Woody Overton
And her mom's boyfriend and them did and they covered it up to the extent of filing she's gonna be homeschooled and moving the body after it's been dead for over a year because you had to move.
Cindy Overton
Had someone pretend to be.
Woody Overton
I had someone to pretend. I mean that takes a lot of fourth off and afterthought.
Cindy Overton
Yeah.
Woody Overton
You know, you know why? Because they're still getting that check.
Cindy Overton
Yeah.
Woody Overton
And that's a source of income for them and can't go at least one show without saying deserves to die and be. I mean how. What do you think her siblings are thinking? They know she's dead. They know she's dead in the basement.
Cindy Overton
Do they?
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Woody Overton
Your 12 year old sister used to take care of you that she's. She's gone now. You don't think that body stunk?
Cindy Overton
I mean I do think that the body stunk, but I'm just saying they said the story if she went to go stay with relatives out of state if I was a young is going.
Woody Overton
To tell you something to say.
Cindy Overton
Exactly.
Woody Overton
Okay. Arguably I didn't say it was siblings Paul either. I was taking the. The angle of holy how must have bad must it be for them right. To know that your sister is murdered.
Cindy Overton
Yeah.
Woody Overton
So it sucks and you know, it all sucks. And no rules on being parents. I guess they have rules but can't always enforce them because they overworked and underpaid. I mean who in the has the forethought to get another kid to act like your kid that you murdered? They deserve the death penalty, period. I don't know. Fall time, y'. All. My favorite time of year. And we love and appreciate each and every one of y'. All. Unfortunately, we're 11 a days away from Bradley's six year murderersary and we need to get this case solved. Keep calling in your tips is how it's going to happen. And of course I know what I'm looking at, but need your tips. Keep calling them in and we love and appreciate each and every one of y'. All. You got anything else? So that being said, I'm Woody Overton.
Cindy Overton
I'm Cindy Overton.
Woody Overton
We'll ha child tomorrow. Peace. Foreign.
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Podcast: Real Life Real Crime
Hosts: Woody Overton & Cindy Overton
Air Date: October 20, 2025
On this episode of “True Crime Time For,” Woody and Cindy Overton explore several striking recent crime stories with their trademark unfiltered dialogue, real-world police insight, and a blend of shock, empathy, and occasional dark humor. The show opens with Woody’s updates on ongoing cold cases and tips from listeners before diving into current headlines: a shooting at Oklahoma State University, a violent altercation at a Florida McDonald’s, child neglect at a Florida beach, a devastating cold case development from the UK, a bizarre faked abduction story in Florida, and a harrowing Connecticut child homicide involving a year-long cover-up.
Woody recaps ongoing cold case efforts and psychic involvement:
Cindy reveals the psychic’s latest vision involves a map, possibly providing a new clue (03:43).
Incident Summary:
Woody’s Policing Perspective:
Reflects on how parties, particularly with off-campus attendees, often cause problems:
“The real problems, the people we have were the people who didn't go to school there that came to hang out with their friends...” (Woody, 05:10)
Discussion:
Incident Recap and Sheriff’s Colorful Commentary:
Sheriff Grady Judd’s Notable Quote:
"What do these goober smoochers do?... They're having a Mac argument in the McDonald's over MC hamburgers or lack of MC hamburgers.” (Sheriff Judd, 10:00)
“It was just a Mac mess, but we'll sort it out because we're Mac good at investigating Mac crime.” (Sheriff Judd, 15:00)
Legal Consequences:
Story Details:
Discussion Points:
Case Details:
Notable Quotes:
Incident Narrative:
Investigation:
Legal Outcome:
Woody’s Reaction:
Details:
Quotes & Reaction:
Discussion:
Sheriff Grady Judd’s wordplay:
“McArgument ... Mac mess ... we'll sort it out because we're McGood at investigating McCrime.” (13:37–16:45)
Woody on Vigilant Parenting:
“You send your kids to college, I mean...” (05:55)
Cindy on Parental Responsibility:
“How do you lose track of time when you have an infant?” (27:53)
Woody on Cold Case Justice:
“I just hope you sweat it every day and be looking over your shoulder. One day justice will catch up with you.” (31:01)
On Child Neglect:
“They deserve the death penalty, period. I don't know.” (Woody, 46:41)
Woody and Cindy maintain a candid, often blunt approach—mixing law enforcement realism with emotional reactions and the occasional sardonic laugh at the absurdity or tragedy of their stories. Woody’s storytelling remains gripping, and Cindy provides the voice of common sense from a parental perspective.
The episode serves as both a warning and a remembrance, reminding listeners of the importance of vigilance, community reporting, and perseverance in justice, while also exposing the sometimes-overlooked faults in larger systems meant to protect the vulnerable.
For listeners who missed the episode, this summary gives a comprehensive look at all discussed cases, key participant insights, and host commentary, highlighting both the facts and the emotional resonance that defines the Real Life Real Crime podcast.