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True Crime Time For October 24, 2024 | Wisconsin Murder, Fake Passport Hoax, and a Wrongful Conviction That Shook the System
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Hello, everybody, and welcome to this episode of True Crime time for Friday, October 24th. And I'm Woody Overton, flying solo.
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Work, work, work.
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Gotta have it being done. Holy shit, y'. All. Oh, the. You know the Bradley hashtag Just for Bradley hashtag just for ao. If this couldn't be a multi year series on how deep this shit goes in Burning Paris. I mean, it's made for tv. I don't like tv. I've done tv. Um, and I did some stuff, you know, besides Dateline and Cold Case Files and stuff like that, and I just didn't like them. And I could have had my own TV show. And this is the reason I wouldn't do it because they would never let me say all the things that need to be saying said in these cases. That being said, patron of convicts, you're getting another drop with Ms. Lulu early in. I think you got it last night at midnight. And everybody else is going to get the full episode with commercials on Saturday at midnight.
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So continue to call on your tips. And Vernon, Paris is burning. But you know what? I didn't start the fire. I didn't do it. Not my fault. I didn't kill these people. Am I looking into it or looking into it? Am I living it? Yeah, I'm living it. How about that? Can I tell you what the air tastes like in Vernon Parish? Yeah, I can. Definitely can. Can I tell you locations in Vernon Parish? Yep, definitely can. So keep looking for me, keep missing me, and I'm keep doing what I do. But we're going to burn this shit down. I'm going to release more shit than anyone's ever heard. But that being said, that's not today's show. We're now doing true crime time for this Friday. And what kind of story did we want to start out with today? Let's see. It's time for family matters. Well, we're going to roll out to Wisconsin. My God, I love Wisconsin. The. The beer and the meat and cheese. I love the cheese, too. And the people. Or I'll call it the Louisiana of the North. Y' all know this. If you're a lifer, you know how much I would love Wisconsin. I'd love to buy a place up there one day. Shane McBride and Tracy and all my good buddies up there that come down here and hunt and stuff. But you know what, Wisconsin folk, if you got cities and you got really rural areas and everything else in the. I don't know. I don't know how to explain it. It's such a melting pot of people. Everything from the Amish to, you know, it's also the number one leading drinking state in the United States of America, which I always thought Louisiana would be, but they have a melting pot of people. But I can guarantee you every person I know in Wisconsin would not stand for this story. Okay? And we are going to tell you about a Wisconsin woman who is behind bars. She's in jail, kind of what she was in hell, but she's in jail for bludgeoning her mother to death with a four pound rock. Okay, four pound rock. Lauren Spores, who's 29. She stands accused of one count each of intentional homicide in the first degree and domestic abuse and threat. And this is according to the Milwaukee County Sheriff's Office. And why in the fuck wouldn't I know? Let me look at my map. No, Wisconsin doesn't have a death penalty. All right, so on October 12th, just after 2pm, Kerry Zattel, who's 64, called 911 to report that her daughter was being violent. Right. Record it. 911 by 2:20pm so whatever reason, took the 20 minutes to get there. The cops arrive at the residence on West Ramsey Avenue, and they found the lady who miscarries the tail. 64 years old, the mom, she was found covered in blood and suffering from severe trauma to her head. With brain matter visible. It just makes me see images in my head of all the different times I've seen brain matter. The I remember. Oh, Ma. Go out on a limb and say when your brain matter is visible through your skull or cracks in your skull or whatever, you are not going to live. Okay? Probably 99.9% of the time. And guess what? Ms. Carrie was pronounced dead at the scene of the crime just minutes after police arrived. Right. Like I said, you're not going to live. They can see your brains. I'm pretty sure you're fucked. And investigators came out and do what they do, and they noticed a large blood stained rock in the grass next to Mrs. Attell's body. Also notably sporting splotches of crimson. The rock covered in blood next to body with brains hanging out. Now, the daughter is believed to have been soaked in her mother's blood during the attack. Well, I'm pretty sure she got the blood from somewhere. Okay. She's covered in blood, so. Other evidence was used to support the rest. Another 911 caller reported seeing the younger woman standing over the older woman in the backyard. Y', all, the daughter's 29 years old, standing over the older woman in the backyard, holding a large object and repeatedly bringing it down upon the victim. This is in the criminal complaint, right? Might be a dead giveaway. No pun intended. That's a four pound rock. She's standing over the woman who's on the ground. She's bashed her fucking brains in. So they said. Some believe the alleged violence was a long time coming. Loretta Moyer, who's a close friend of the victim, told the local WDJT that Zettel believed her daughter killed her own father back in January of 2018. In fact, Zetel told police her daughter hit Jeffrey Spores. And her name is. The daughter's last name is Spores. Hit Jeffrey Spores over the Head with two glass bottles. And this is according to a report issued by the Milwaukee County Medical Examiner's office. Law enforcement, however, learned the dead man was known to over medicate on his pain prescriptions and they decline at that time to charge Lawrence Spores with her daddy's death. Beat him in the head with bottles. I'm pretty sure somebody that one up. And well, so Lawrence Spores still got a domestic violence restraining order which prohibited her from contacting her mom in the months after her father's death. And she, guess what, Broke the order on at least two separate occasions. Okay, now I always say that paper won't stop a bullet. Evidently, paper being the restraining order, evidently it won't stop a four pound rock either. And mama already told you that she killed husband with the bottles. But anyway, each time that she violates the restraining order, they already found that she is mentally comp. Incompetent to stand trial. If you're mentally incompetent to stand trial, there's allegation she killed her father. Mom gets restraining order, she violates it twice. But you're like, she's, she's too cray cray. Stand trial, lock her ass up, just let her out in the street. Anyway, this is what she says, I haven't accepted my dad's death. And she once wrote to a judge in 2018 after the initial protective border violation, my mom says I killed him, but I don't remember doing it. Lawrence Fors accepted some level of culpability for her violation though, and acknowledged her. Her mental illness caused her to act out. Now, over the past seven years, with her daughter in and out of relatively minor legal trouble as well as institution and hospitals, Zatel, her mama actually began to fear for her own life. Right? In roughly two weeks before her murder, the soon to be killed woman made a chillingly prescient statement in this court of one of the family friends. She said, Carrie even said, she goes, maybe if she kills me, she'll get the help she needs. Carrie was hopeless at this point. What the. So during the early morning hours on the day of the murder, Zatel called Moyer and left a voicemail about her daughter. And this, according to wdjt, said Lauren was here just now pounding on the doors and the windows. And I called 911 to tell the victim can be heard saying, and the police came and they caught her under a tarp and she ran away. So I don't know they're still here. They're going to try to look for her. Well, they didn't Catch her, evidently, right, because she came back and bashed in her own mom's head with a four pound rock. And how in the fuck you don't go back? Mentally competent, incompetent, whatever. They need to go back and redo the dad's death charges. I mean, it's like Austin o'. Banning. You want to say it's an overdose. Obviously she's beat to this dude. Obviously all you gotta. If he hadn't been cremated, go and examine the skull. As he wasn't fractured with subdivable subdural hematomas and all that. Like it should have been done in the beginning, but you know what, wrote it off as a dope case. And Mrs. Tell got killed by the very person she gave birth to, gave her life. And then she took her mama's life. And there is your family matters. Right? All right. Yeah. This one. I don't even know what category to put it under. You know, I'm just doing. Now we're gonna lighten it up a little bit.
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You hear about some people getting tattoos a couple years ago, maybe 20 years, I lose track of time. It was the big rage to go get like Chinese letters tattooed on your body and they supposedly said like honor or some shit like that, right? And then somebody China read it and the person that tattooed on there, it really said, you're a little bitch or I'm a little bitch. It didn't say what it meant. Right? But I'm pretty fucking sure if I was going to have something tattooed on me that I would make sure that the letters were correct ahead of time. At the same time, I'm pretty sure if I'm going to have an illegal passport made, it's going. If I'm going to pay the money for it, it's going to be at least somewhat legit. Let me tell you what happened. The. And there's a video and it's gone viral on social media platforms which show I hate to this word up. Hijab clad Muslim woman or you know, the head set, y'. All. The Muslim woman arriving at the JF Air JFK airport in New York City carrying the passport of. From. From a country called Terenza. T O R E N Z A. Okay, well, you know what? You're out of jfk. You're. You're coming in, you got to go through customs. Been there myself through that, through that customs. And they're going to check your shit. And you get up and they walk up and they look at you and they look at your passport and they look to see if it's you. And now they got facial recognition and all that shit. Well, guess what? The only problem with the. Maybe you could get away with it, maybe not. The problem with this particular case is there's no such fucking country as Terenza in the world. I guess maybe they think we. We don't train those people enough, right? The. So she goes to the counter and this is on video. They said. The bizarre video, which has sparked speculations and conspiracy theories about the existence of hidden in untraveled countries which allegedly do not feature on the world map, shows the elderly woman explaining to the stunned immigration officers at the JFK airport that she's from Terenza, a country located in the Caucasus region. The woman who traveled to New York from Tokyo, Japan, carried a passport from Terenza, which looked legit, right? Mine would, too, except for the fact there is no record of any such country in the world. Her Terenza passport featured biometric chips and the holograms as well as stamps from from other fictional countries. Okay, you may have got away with. Let's say you just. There's a total dumbass working there. And look, you got the chips, you got the holograms. Evidently somebody paid up for this fake passport. And let's just say the guy behind the counter isn't smart enough to know there's not a country named Lorenzo. All right. Hey, y'. All. You know I don't do the laundry.
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Maybe could happen like a 1% chance. But then they always, always every time I travel abroad they always go look at all my stamps, right? They want to know where you've been recent times you've been traveling. Whatever she had, she had tons of stamps. None of them from real countries either. At this point, even the dumbest immigration official is going to bust your ass. And they said that the stamps from other fictional countries left the officials at the airport confused and dumbfounded. Now let's talk about where is Terenza? Nowhere. After the video went viral, fact checkers confirmed that it was an AI generated the passport and the JFK airport has no records of such a passenger or incident. The Terenza hoax is reminiscent of a similar incident which took place in 1954 at the Haneda Airport in Tokyo when a man who claimed to be from a non existent country called Taured baffled officials before he disappeared. So while the Teresa Passport Woman hoax has sparked wild conspiracy theories on the Internet, from government cover ups to parallel universes and shape shifting aliens, et cetera, et cetera, the reality is that the video is artificial intelligence generated and not an actual event. And you know, I don't really want to get off on that topic, but I'm going to touch on it for a minute. The that is what it's come to. And they they have the whole video, not just of the fake passport, the whole video of this incident online and it is so real the whole world believed it that this actually happened and they didn't. I don't know. I get that the. I know AI is the big now and everything from porn to fake crimes and. And what have you, especially the fraudulent going on. That's just wild. Don't get it. All right, it's time. It's time for beast mode. Yeah, I did that story yesterday about dogwatch.com or whatever the. The name is the David. Yes. Yesterday day before whenever it was and they said that the ICE officials killed the dog. What have you and I told you about. I've had to do that but in self defense or in defense of others on the job. It's unfortunate. I hate that I've got a shit ton of dogs and I love dogs. I don't want to ever have to shoot one. But you have to ask yourself at what point is it appropriate to kill a dog? Right. Well, we're going to Rochester, New York and a dog was killed by police again. But this dog got killed by the police after it attacked multiple people inside a home, including a baby. This happened on La Force street in Rochester, New York. And it happened earlier this past Tuesday morning. And the victims inside the home were able to close the outside door when the dog ran outside. Right. To stop coming back in. But the dog did attempt to get back into the home by attacking and pushing on the closed door. Okay. Fucking cj, right? Is it appropriate yet to kill him? Well, officers arrived at the scene and they found the dog in the backyard with Fitzpah caught in the closed door which naturally had a trap. And the people in the home were able to move to a safe location to receive medical treatment. They said at some point the dog was able to free itself from the door and tried to go after the officers in the front yard. Not going to end well for you, Toto. And it said it aggressively tried to climb over a barricade. The police said an officer put the dog down when it became clear it was going to defeat the barricade. And because of the dog attack, four people were taken to Strong Memorial Hospital and a 20 year old woman and a 13 month old girl were treated for bite wounds. The other victims suffered from scratches but there were no life threatening injuries. Let me play this little audio for y'. All. It's only 36 seconds.
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Breaking updates just in from RPD this morning. Multiple people including a baby are recovering after an early morning dog attack. Police say just before 2am they rushed out to Laforce street for A dog that went after several people inside a home. The victims closed the door when the dog ran outside, but then it tried to break back in. Officers say the dog got trapped briefly so they work to get everyone who was inside out through a window. And when the dog did break free, police say it came at them which is when an officer shot and killed the animal. RPD says in total four people were heard. Two including a 13 month old were treated on scene.
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That's crazy. As the the I don't know. That's why I'm asking you. At what point do you think it's okay to kill this dog or at least shoot this dog? They are trying to evacuate a family of four who've already been injured through a window because this dog is still at the door. Paul trapped in wherever and he gets loose comes at him and you know what? The that's the death penalty for that dog. The I I have my granddaughter is 13 months old and I gotta promise you I would smoke that like a pack of CO tools. And there you have it. So. All right. This story as much as abhor rapists and murderers and people who do really really bad, right. The and I'm so I guess you know, common pro death penalty whatever. I absolutely believe if you have that law on the books it should be executed on the worst cr. Right. No pun intended. The I also just as strongly believe in proving someone that's innocent. Okay. And I do y', all. I don't know if you even know after my law enforcement career I spent my time working on defense on cases. Okay. People legitimately innocent. And the I fight form tooth and nail. I do like an investigation in opposite direction. I hate things about a sitting in prison that's innocent. The cops just get it wrong. Right? And then sometimes that happens but the you're innocent and you're doing time and some other for somebody else's crime. Literally a crime that you didn't commit. Now granted when I worked in the prison system, you know 90% of them would say they're innocent, right? I guess maybe some of those were innocent. And for the ones who've gotten off the death row from the 40 years of appeals, now they're getting DNA and all that Kudos. Great, love it. Get off death row. If you're innocent, you're innocent. But if you're not, you're not. Now I'm going to tell you about this is a trippy ass story. All right? They had a guy who's locked up for 17 years for a crime he really, honest to God did not commit. So they said, although the criminal justice system attempts to serve justice to deserving lawbreakers, there are a lot of cases that end up wrongfully sentenced and innocent people go to jail. Like Nod Sinead. And I just watched that update on a case on the HBO and the Prisoner and famously featured on the NPR podcast serial. Right. Started all the true crime podcasts as for what I was told. And he made waves in 2014 when journalist Sarah Koenig investigated his story and made a controversial case for how he may, in fact, be innocent. Well, ultimately, he's out of prison today, right? And there are many, many similar stories like that. But how about this one? This is not that. But how about an innocent man who went to jail, okay? And you're locked down, and you're walking down the hall one day, or whatever it may be, walking by a cell, and you look in, and what do you see? You see yourself. You see your doppelganger. And when I started the podcast, I didn't even know what that was, and I had to look it up because somebody said someone such and such was my doppelganger. Doppelganger, meaning a person. The. The dolphin ganger theory is that there is somebody out there in this world who looks exactly identical to you, period. And so this guy, he's down, he's locked up, and he sees his doppelganger. Right? Sounds like a movie. Right? But it's the true story of Richard Anthony Jones. And he was from Kansas City, Missouri, and he was convicted way back in 1999 of robbing a woman in a Walmart parking lot in Kansas. Guess what? They gave him 19 years. And he had already been locked up for 17 of those years. And the whole 17 years, he's like, I didn't do it. I'm innocent. I just didn't do it. Right. Uh, well, I mean, he maintained his innocence, and that's when he saw his dolphin ganger, which was another inmate who looked just like him. And guess what? Not only did he look like him, they had the same first name, y'. All. You can't make that shit up. So the. They took this forward, and Jones conviction was finally overturned after two years fighting a legal battle and working with the Innocence Project, which we all know is a nonprofit dedicated to helping people who have been wrongfully accused. Jones's story captured the attention of many, as it should. And once he was released, he raised a large amount of money through a GoFundMe page. And he says he's happy to be reunited with his family. But the question looms large whether the justice system is really doing the best to actually promote justice. All right, let me tell you the rest of the story. So when Jones, Richard Anthony Jones, was convicted of aggravated robbery, there was no physical evidence or DNA that linked him to the crime. Instead, he was placed at the scene by an eyewitness, testimonies who identified him in a lineup. Now, Jones gave an alibi that he was with his girlfriend and family members when the crime took place, but the judge wasn't believing it, and they convicted his ass anyway. Y', all, I am looking at the pictures of these two cats. They are identical twins. They truly are doppelgangers. So I'll tell you real quick on that. The eyewitness testimony is like the worst thing that there is, especially in a high pressure situation when you're getting robbed or raped or whatever. The. If I come into, say, a classroom and arrive the teacher in front of all the kids, the. You're going to get probably there's 80 kids in the room. You're going to get 75 different versions of how tall I was or how short I was and what have you. But they're going to remember the main features, right? The problem with that is if you go as a cop and you go get a. We call a six pack made up now in the state of Louisiana, you, You, you. You have your suspect, right? You send in his information, his date of birth, whatever, to the state police. They have a computer that goes through all the databases for driver's license and anything that you have could be mug shots, whatever. But they. Anybody that fits those physical characteristics, and it spits out five other people. And your suspect is in there. And it always moves around, right from one spot, one through six. Let me tell you, the problem with this is, y', all, this shit is so legit. I have, I have looked at. I've held. I call them six packs. I've held six packs in my hand where I knew who the suspect was. And I couldn't tell him apart from two or three of the other people in the lineup. And so that's what happened in this case. And unfortunately, him. This. They evidently got the photo of a guy that looks. I showed it to you. You couldn't tell a difference. Now, they even have the same mustache and. And goatee and hair and everything. So anyway, he judged and bleeding and gave him his 19 years, and he served 17. So the. Let me tell you how he actually saw his doppelganger, right? He heard other Inmates talking about his lookalike. And so he told two of the legal interns who were working on this case, he said, look, there's prisoners in there. They're saying, there's another dude in there looks just like me. And the lookalike's name was Ricky Amos, right? His name's Richard. This name is Ricky. And he looked like Jonas, straight up. They had the same look. Cornrows, facial hair, eye color, skin color, weight and height. They were just one year apart in age. And Amos just happened to live close to the crime scene and was sent to the same prison for a different crime. Now, when Amos's picture was shown to the legal team, no one. And then, I just told you I could do it here. No one could tell him apart from their client, Jones. This is crazy. So what they do, they're like, okay, well we got to get him out. And the witnesses were presented back then with the lineup of possible robbers. During the original trial, Richard Anthony Jones was the only man who remotely fit their description of Hispanic or light skinned African American person. And he became the prime suspect, no questions asked. In the investigation that followed, Jones's lawyers argued that the lineup was highly suggestive. They always argue that. Y' all about any lineup that I've ever done in, in this case, I don't think it's highly suggestive. I just think he got fucked. So anyway, at a new trial, Ricky Amos, right, the Dolphin ganger denied being involved in the 1999 robbery, but they brought the eyewitnesses back for questioning. And both the victim and the Walmart security guard admitted they couldn't be sure that Richard Anthony Jones committed the robbery. Now, the judge who originally prosecuted the case re examined the evidence and the testimonies and concluded that Jones conviction couldn't be upheld if eyewitness testimonies were no longer valid. They made a mistake in prosecuting Jones all those years ago. So on June 8, 2017, Richard Anthony Jones had his conviction overturned after 17 years in prison and two years of fighting this case with the Innocence Project. And I told you about the rest of it. But after they let him out of prison system, I mean, which had been there for most of his life, the for drug and robbery charges. Ricky Amos, the doppelganger, was charged in 2003 for sexual battery. And he failed to register as a sex offender. And he's now in prison in Kansas. But he's not been charged, y', all, with the Walmart robbery. He had been charged even though now the cops got to go back and look at it, right? And the. During the investigation, Ricky Amos police found that he and his mom had been evicted from their home and temporarily lived in a drug house he did with his mom in Kansas. That was the same house where two men who were interviewed admitted to picking up a man they only knew as Rick and driving to the Walmart to make some quick cash. And guess how he did that. He robbed that victim. Right? So, you know, this just goes on and on and on. It's crazy as hell. The. I don't know what's right. I don't know what's right in terms of. What do you give someone who you've locked away, labeled as a violent criminal, basically for 19 years until he gets out. 19 years of your life. How in the. Do you ever compensate someone for that? And, you know, the crazy thing is, when I used to do bloody Angola, the crazy thing is we looked at. Different states have different rules. Some of them don't have any caps on. Like, you know, what motherfucker your cops did, whether they did an affair. So they just got it wrong.
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I believe they didn't deserve to be compensated. But me, I don't think there's enough money in the world to be compensated for 19 years of rotting away in the cell and being labeled a violent criminal. And. And some states have caps on it. Like, ridiculously, like, let me look that up so y'. All. Can I just. Some of these. Some states. And it happens in every state, but some states, the. The amount is so ridiculous. I'm like, really? You're going to give me a nickel a day for 19 years or whatever? Let me see, what is the state by state compensation for individuals who were sent to prison after being wrongfully convicted? I want you. Y' all want you to hear some of these. Okay? It's how ridiculous it is. See, we'll start with Alaska. Alaska gives you a minimum of $50,000 for each year of incarceration. Not enough for me, homie. I mean, that's pretty good compared to some of them. The second state is California. What do you think? I'll live with? California does $140 a day per incarceration. Not enough for me. I mean, that's. I'm sure that's a lot of money, right? I don't even know how much that equates to 10 days is. 1400, 20, 800. What, 38, 4600amonth that the. The. I mean, they took your freedom, bro.
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So let's go to Colorado.
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Colorado inmates get $70,000 for each year they're wrongfully incarcerated in an additional 50,000 for each year on death row. Well, an additional 25,000 for each year that he or she served on parole or probation or is registered as a sex offender. So if you go get put on death row, wrong and wrongfully convicted, you make a hundred and twenty thousand dollars a year. Fuck that. To be sitting on death row thinking that I'm about to get executed. Let's just do a couple more. Let's go Connecticut. Connecticut. The amount per year is calculated based on anywhere between 75 to 200% of the median Connecticut household, Inc. I guess that's pretty good, but it's still not worth having your freedom taken away. Let's go to D.C. this ought to be rich.
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300.
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No, I'm sorry. 200,000 for each year of incarceration to include prorated amount for partial years served and 40,000 for each year served on pro. You know, 200,000. Still not enough. I mean did 20 years. $4 million. That the. That's. I'm gonna go to Louisiana real quick because I think they changed it. And then I'll get off when this. I'm not gonna do all of them. Maybe I'll do a Patreon convict episode on this. Let's see. Louisiana. Louisiana, you only get $25,000 per year with a maximum $250,000. That's fucked up. I think they should change that. That. I mean, come on, man. I'm just. I'm scroll by down list and the magic finger. Stop. And the state I stopped on was Utah. Let's see what Utah does. And I'm ending it. The Utah. The office of Crime Victim reparation to make initial payment within. That's not it. Let's say how much for 15 years. Petitioner may receive the monetary. That's not it. They don't say. The maximum award for 15 years. Okay, you get. So let's say you serve 30. You only get it for 15 years. Petitioner may receive the monetary value of average annual non agriculture payroll. Oh, I'm pretty sure you're getting in Utah. Let me do one more. Let's go back the other way and stop the state. I stopped on New Hampshire. New Hampshire, Three years. Oh, you really get in New Hampshire. They're the worst one on the. On the whole thing. New Hampshire, the maximum you can get. Oh, maybe not. Let's say I was reading it wrong. Let's see. Provides educational aid, expenses for tuition, fees, books, whatever booming reward at any community college. All right. And with a. Okay. Yeah. Right. Yeah. You get in New Hampshire and there's a $500,000 cap on that. So I guess you just could be a student the rest of your life. Or they say I have to be reading this wrong. The you have three years for the following you claim. And it's a $20,000 cap. Pretty sure I ain't gonna live in New Hampshire and try to get convicted to anything. Let me do one more. Let's go. Illinois, common state. Right. Chicago. Let's see what they do. Holy. All right. If you're in Chicago, you get 50,000 per year, adjusted for cost of living increases. But it caps out at $2 million in court costs and reasonable attorney fees. Fuck that. That's four years and you're capped out. No, two million. That's more than that. That's 10 years. And you capped out. So they say greater than five years, you get $85,350. Fuck that. 14 years, you get $170,000 maximum. That less than 14 years, it might be vice versa. You get $199,150 maximum. But hey, at least you guess get a cost of living increase. Anyway. That's it. The love and appreciate each and every one of y' all went a little sideways off the trail on true crime Time for crazy ass stories. Love and appreciate each and every one of y'. All. Burn and parish. What the fuck? Never gonna stop. Never gonna quit. You getting another episode that's gonna make the hit the fan again? Well, yeah. Tonight at 12:01am Saturday morning for regular lifers and Patreon convicts. You already got it. So continue to call on your tips. 313 rlrctip I wouldn't do this Lulu Bell's episodes if they hadn't caused such a shitstorm. Which is exactly what's needed there. Let's get it done. You know Bradley's murder bursary is less than a week away. The day they killed him. Right? Six years. So I'm Woody Overton, your host. True Crime time for this Friday. Love you all. Holla at you later. Peace.
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