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Hello, everybody, and welcome to this episode of True Crime. Time for Tuesday, October 28th, 8th, 2025. And I'm Woody Overton.
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I'm Cindy Overton.
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We go in slow mo today. Okay. And deep.
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Deep.
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And slow, deep. That's how we got our kids. All right, the usual, y'. All. Hashtag just for Bradley. Hashtag just for air. Look tomorrow. She's still laughing. Such a dirty Eddie. Why are you such a dirty motherfucker? Anyway, the tomorrow in Patreon convicts. You'll get it tonight. The we are going to do another episode on Hashtag Just for Bradley. Hashtag just for ao. I'm going to talk about the case and some of the things that have come in, and then we're going to play some more La Luna Bell. And y' all keep calling these tips. 313 rlrc tip. Because it works.
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Yes.
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If you think the aren't in their pants over there. And I'm talking about when I say that I don't. I'm not just talking. I'm not talking about law enforcement and whatever. There's a lot of that, too. But I'm talking about the murderers.
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Yeah.
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Murderers. Who have been walking around free for all these years. Yeah. And still walk around free. Do your job. You have one job. But anyway, you look at that episode tomorrow on Wednesday. Right. And then you'll get another one on Saturday.
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Right.
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Which will be Bradley's murder bursary. Six years. Yeah.
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That's just. But it's also. Halloween is also Courtney Coco's David Anthony Burns conviction day. Yeah.
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Yep. It's a lot of things. A lot of people. Yeah. But Bradley, we just want to bring him home. Yeah, definitely want to bring him. I'm gonna bring him home. But could y' all continue to call you tips now give us a crime story. It's time for family matters.
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I know that you mention it often. Not often, but when the time comes up, you mentioned how, like, you were left by your family at church.
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A couple times I got left in the astroworld and I got left in at church. Well, because I was choir boy. Is that right? Altar boy.
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Altar boy.
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I was altar boy. And I had to clean up afterwards. And they just left me getting to the barbecue in the swimming pool.
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And we didn't have any cell phones.
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About the bad thing was that's how I got out. There's no phone in the church part. And where the phone was where we used to have our little CYO dances and shit.
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Yeah.
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It was already locked up.
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Yeah.
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I'm just so down Downtown Clinton. Sunday, I walked to the neighbor's house and had to call.
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Oh, my gosh. Well, I don't think this ever happened to you. We're going to Texas. Cooperas Cove, Texas. 12 year old boy came from, came home from school one day and his apartment was completely empty.
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I'm pretty sure this wasn't his apartment.
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The apartment that he lived in with his mother? Yes, and her boyfriend.
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So his mother and her boyfriend's apartment that he lived in?
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Well, yeah.
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I mean, it's not like he's paying rent.
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I. I would say that that house that WL is sleeping in right now or gaming in is his house.
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That's that.
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It's where he lives.
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He don't own it. He don't own it. We own it. You asked my deceased father, he said that. And people like, you know, my dad worked very, very hard and it was. Well, often people knew that and they'd be like, oh, you're an overt. My dad said, you ain't got no.
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Money is my minor and he is our responsibility.
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Okay. And he's living in our house. That's right. And until. And if he breaks the rules, he'd get the out of our house. How about that?
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15 years old.
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Absolutely.
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Okay.
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Join the military. But he. He ain't thinking. Yeah, you can join the military with a GED and in. In a parent signature 15, 16. The Marine Corps take you.
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Well, luckily Dubs is a good, good.
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Boy and that he really is a good dude.
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W. This is your home? Well, this.
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It's where he resides with us. Go ahead, give him a story. We're. We're five minutes in and nothing about a crime yet.
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Well, the mother and boyfriend were gone.
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Okay.
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The apartment was described by police as empty.
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And I'm pretty sure that's happened to WL before.
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The place was bare.
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Move and not move. Him with us.
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Yes, the place wasn't bare.
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Oh my gosh. All of the belongings and furniture were removed while the boy was at school. The child told officers that although the family had mentioned that they might move at some point, he had no idea that they were leaving that day.
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One time my parents were moving from the house out in the country by the Bickhams to the place in town. No, they were moving shit like when we moved here. Like take making loads of shit. And the. I hid. I must have been like 7 years old. I hid in the back of the van underneath the bench because my daddy told me I couldn't go on one of the trips. And he beat my ass. Like, what's not going to do. They unloaded everything that was in the van and it's like, what are you doing here?
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Well, you were an investigator even at that young age.
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But you know what? My mama didn't miss me. That's probably another time I got left. All right, be quiet. So he gets home, his parents are gone, his in chargelings have abandoned the premises.
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Yes. And he had knowledge that at some point they were going to move, but he had no idea when that was going to happen. And they did not leave any instructions on where he was to go and who would be taking care of him.
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How old is he?
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12. A neighbor informed investigators that the couple had a history of kicking the boy out of the home, adding to concerns about neglect.
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But we won't have a history of it. And if we did it, we won't kick him out once. It won't come back.
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When police reached the mother. Her name is Erica Renee Sanders. And the boyfriend, Kevin Dwayne Adams. Adams insisted that the child had not been abandoned.
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And you ain't there and the place is empty. I'm pretty sure that that considers.
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And to continue that he. He had. He wasn't abandoned. However, he is no longer welcome in our home.
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Okay, that doesn't work. 12 years old. Yeah. The. You can be arrested for being that bad of a parent.
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Sanders claimed that her brother was supposed to pick the child up after school. But when police contacted the uncle, he said he had no. He had no idea that there was an agreement like that.
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Right. Otherwise I'm pretty sure he'd have picked up his nephew.
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Exactly. Child Protective Services obviously was brought in immediately. And when Sanders and Adams refused to give their new address, investigators tracked them down through. I mean they're not the smartest tools in the shed. They just literally went to like bills like where's their water? Other water utility account. That's how they tracked them down. They just looked at water utility records. So both were arrested and charged with abandoning or endangering a child without intent to return, which is a third degree felony in Texas. And the 12 year old boy has since been placed in the care of his uncle while authorities continue to review the circumstances regarding the abandonment.
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Well, I'm pretty sure they got what they wanted, but they're not going to like how they're going to get it. Right.
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Yeah.
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So the. I don't know. I don't know what to say about that. Then he's 12, right. And got abandoned. Well, let me tell you what a 13 year old did.
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Okay.
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All right. Well, we're going to Arizona and we're going to talk to members of the Department of Public Safety and Highway Patrol because they have a story to tell about a 13 year old boy who was drunk as a skunk and he decided after he got drunk that he wanted to go take a ride about JoyRide. Yeah. And 13 years old. Naturally he didn't own a car. So what did he do?
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Stole it.
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Yeah, that's exactly what he did. Drunk as stole a car and he's driving around. He's evidently not very well versed in the tactics of driving drunk or driving at all because then he crashed the out of the vehicle. Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. So, but he wasn't by himself. And they took a vehicle from the Flagstaff Police Department.
C
What?
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At around 1am on Tuesday, September 30th. And then they get on the interstate. Interstate 40. Listen. And they were going the wrong way. Yeah. And it's reported that the teenager drove onto a guardrail before the vehicle collided with a nearby tree.
C
Oh my God.
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See the sparks? But they said the impact was so severe that the steering wheel broke off while the vehicle was rolling. And the steering wheel was ejected approximately 50ft away from where the vehicle landed. According to her trooper friends over there in Arizona, both of the children suffered from non life threatening injuries and were sent to a local hospital. But our, our law enforcement buddy said that the driver showed a six out of six on signs of intoxication. Oh, he's up.
C
Yeah.
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And after the crash, her. Her. I didn't tell you. Why you got to be these girls? Why you got to be automatically assume it's a boy.
C
Exactly. I know.
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So the following the crash, her blood alcohol concentration was found to be 0.183.
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Wow.
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Remember, I've told this story a hundred times. I drank as much off duty. One night I had one of my cop buds come get me and I drank as many beers as fast as I could in like two hours. I'm like 14 beers. I was freaking hammered and I wanted to go blow on the machine. I blew on the machine and I blew a 0.14. And I'm talking about hammered. Hammered. Hammer like almost blackout hammered.
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Yeah.
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This is a 13 year old girl blowing 4/10 higher than I was. Yeah, and I'm sure I had. I'll weigh about 200 pounds. But photos from the crash show the vehicle with its roof caved in, its front end end twisted against a tree and the steering wheel line in the grass. We could check this a little bit more, Ted. They said. Around 1am on September 30, 2025, Highway Patrol state troopers received a call for a wrong way driver on I40 eastbound. A deputy deserved the vehicle drive the wrong way across the median and then self correct before continuing eastbound at over 100 mph. The vehicle was reported as stolen and had fled from the Flagstaff Police Department before the deputy saw it. The vehicle drove onto the guard rail and rode across the guardrail before rolling several times and landing in the tree. And like I told y', all, the steering wheel was broken off throwing 50 yards from the vehicle. The drive of the Vehicle is a 13 year old kid slash girl with an 11 year old passenger in the seat. Both juveniles sustained non life threatening injuries anyway and she was tore up. So they said we're thankful the kids are okay, but this could end it way worse. Juvenile joy riding, underage drinking are extremely dangerous. Talk to your kids about the dangers of drinking and unlicensed driving.
C
Yeah, that's crazy.
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Talk to him.
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What do you have when you're telling that story? Reminded me of my stepfather. We. He had bought not we because it wasn't my vehicle. He had bought a brand new Suburban back in the mid-80s. It was like a new body type came out and it was like super duper limited, special edition, whatever. And he came home one night in it the next morning. I mean, this was like days after he got the Suburban and it had the whole right side of this brand new vehicle had scratches and all the paint was off of it. And it was like really like perfectly at guardrail height. And we were like, charles, what happened to this thing? He's like, I have no idea. I've never seen it before. I don't even know.
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I don't remember.
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We go from Zachary to Baton Rouge and on our way home there's a.
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Guardrail all tore up with the paint on it.
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We're like, could this have been what happened? He's like, I do not recall exactly.
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Right? Real life, Real crime.
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Anyway, I'm gonna take us to Houston, Texas.
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Houston H Town Leah Marie Stomping Grounds.
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In April of 2023 in Houston, Texas there was a 34 year old girl named Christina Chambers and she was driving her Porsche 911 Carrera and she struck.
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I always loved that car, right. I had the blue one on the wall and the poster and it was blue from Spencer's. It was blue, midnight blue, my favorite color.
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And she str. 3333 year old man named Joseph McCullen and he was out on his first date with somebody. According to prosecutors, Chambers was intoxicated and Traveling at over 70 miles an hour when she lost control of her car. She mounted a curb and then she mounted. She mounted a curb the vehicles and.
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Her mounted the car.
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Well the. Yes. And she struck McCollen on the sidewalk and then crashed into a pole. She was later found to have a blood alcohol content of. This is your previous story with about the 13 year old like or. Yeah, anyway a 301 they made her.
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Stop blowing at a 0.3 in say Louisiana. You got automatically got to take them to the hospital. And then I've, I've witnessed this. People blowing and me going. And then you get to three. Like, stop, motherfucker, stop blowing. We don't want to take you to the hospital, but point four is dead.
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Yeah, well, obviously it's nearly four times the legal limit. And investigators say cocaine was found in her car and purse.
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How old was she?
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34. She pleaded not guilty to a charge of second degree manslaughter. And her defense argues that the crash was a freak accident caused by. This is the reason her expensive Christian Louboutin heels got stuck on the gas pedal as she drove. And that is what her attorney is saying caused her crash.
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Okay, well, they. She's not gonna blame herself. So prosecutors, not the cocaine and the 0.3. I mean, I can't imagine. I'm sure I've been that high before, but once or twice in my life, when I woke up three days later.
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Prosecutors argue that she was showing off her sports car while intoxicated and that the heel stuck. Explanation is obvious. Deflection from her reckless behavior. The victim's parents filed a wrongful death lawsuit seeking over $1 million in charges against chambers. That's where the story ends.
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There you have it. There you have it. Okay, so I'm going to take you on a different story, different trip.
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And.
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It'S the, you know, you know, we love Chicago, but not going back to the get their shit straight. And, and New York City, I don't really give a about it. I mean, I don't hate it, but I know you want to go. But we're now, now we're not going. And I'm gonna tell you why. This according to the New York Post. So the, you know, I get it. And I studied in college 30 years, 30 plus years ago, you know, like community policing and the different things they would try to do to deter crime. Of course, as a. If there was ever an effective deterrent to crime, we wouldn't have this show. But they're going to try it again. And we're going to New York City. I'm going to Brooklyn. And they got this one, two block stretch that is notorious for being violent.
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Okay.
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Like, it's like, you don't fucking go in there. We had certain areas like that that you didn't go in unless you had to to law enforcement officers. Right. Because the shit was going to happen. And so you would think that maybe you send in the men in black. Like I used to be on the SWAT team and regulate. And we did that sometimes we Regulate the fuck out of them. And then they calm down for a. And whatever. Well, in New York, in Brooklyn, they're like, we're gonna try something a little bit different. Okay, you want to hear it? Yeah. All right. So what they did the New York Post report this, they said that that notoriously violent two block stretch in Brooklyn, they are now going to fight crime there by keeping the uniformed cops away.
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Oh, perfect. So let them just kill each other.
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Fucking right. So NYPD officials agreed to turn a sliver of Brownsville in the NYPD 73rd Precinct into a police free zone.
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Just go for it.
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Police freezing. They tried that like when we didn't have any police back in the caveman days in the Wild West. And how the did that work out for them? Okay, anyway, going now to a police free zone. And they agreed to this last week as part of a city funded experiment called the Brownsville Safety Alliance. And that initially was only twice a year, but now they're doing it four times a year. And it's an initiative that's received praise from anti cop Merrill front runner Zo Ran Mama Danny, who's an official with the group that runs it. Yeah, you can see where this is going. Yeah, right.
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Yeah.
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So he, he believes in what we do, said DeShawn Almond, who's the program director of Brownsville and Violence out, adding that socialist queens assemblyman even stopped by when a zone was in operation last April. So that means this councilman stopped by when he. Then we're trying this shit. The cops get out for, you know, a couple weeks. I'm gonna go down there and hang out.
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Right?
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Yeah. Yeah. Be a man of the people.
C
Yeah, well, with bodyguards.
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Yeah, I bet you had them. And so. But guess what? Cops can still be called for serious crimes such as stabbings or shootings. But members of his community group replace them for low level offenses from noon to 6pm like after that we got to watch Sports center right from noon 6pm this is on Mother Gaston Boulevard between Sutter and Pitkin avenues. And it's from October 7th to October 11th. And people this with people involved, whatever the group's name is. But they said not everyone inside the NYPD was impressed. In quotations, it has the potential to go sideways quickly. That's what a police source said. This is the way that this new guy princes Mamadini or whatever his name is, wants us to go. The brass are trying to appeal to him, like, hey, this dude wins mayor. We are never going to New York City. They said the brass are trying to appeal to him it is insane. Well, the Brownsville Safety alliance which was first started in 2020 under former Mayor and avowed Marxist really D. Blasio includes about 20 members of a community group who walk the two blocks and handle the low level calls that come into 911 during the hours of its operation. So noon to 6. We are untrained as fuck. But you we want the right to go down here and police our own people. Yeah. Okay. Well a plain close BSA sergeant which is a member of the NYPD is assigned to shadow the community members in case more serious issues arise. Like come on down here sir. And I know there's no cops within two blocks.
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Yeah.
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I'll just butt you if I was a buttfucker. I mean I'm gonna get away with it right the anyway. But they got was one dude hiding in shadows in case the buttfuckers come out. So police officers are station on the edges of the two blocks. I mean it's so stupid. I know. So a flyer that appeared on X that was posted in the neighborhood said cops were forbidden from entering the zone.
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I don't understand.
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I want one of those. I want one of those to frame. They said listen, this. This what it actually reads. I'm read this to you. This is so stupid. Set the no on duty quotations. Uniform members of service close quotations are to enter this area unless responding to an extreme police emergency. Emergency open quotations E period, G period. Person shot, stabbed, etc. Close quotations. This with the fire fucking reads. This event is being monitored at the police commissioner level. So you come in this two blocks we're going to tell them you right. Anyway, the flyer was first reported by a retired cop. John McCary who has a podcast in the NYPD shot down the flyer and said that was an unauthorized sign that was posted and the signs have been removed. Yeah. Fuck yeah. I'm pretty sure they're back up and I mean I have a picture of it. They said nothing has changed about our operations, our deployment. They there not true. So but Alman of Brownsville in violence out they have so many different names for these different organizations. Said the organization takes the lead on BSA and handles low level 911 calls while the uniform cops stay away. He says quit ha. They're not gone but they give us our room to control the block. And he's talking about the police. There's BSA every three months. Almond said an example of callouses group handles include a disturbance in a store or a situation on the block. Where guys are drinking. This is Alan talking now. We, we use our credibility. Who now Almond, who goes by the nickname of Bigger and grew up in the area. We try to alleviate the situation. There's really no pushback because they don't want any problems. During the BSA groups also set up tables where locals can get help with health care, housing, addiction and other issues. This month's BSA was uneventful. The the group didn't handle any calls. It was good, it was quiet. We had a gas main leak and that was it. That's real good news. Yeah. So BSA is an initiative of the massive Brooklyn based non profit social services group Kamba, which has received more than $915 million in Citi contracts and funding since the fiscal year 2020. Why not spend that 915 million on fucking cameras and police officers anyway? They said it was not immediately clear how much funding the BSA has received since its inception. Most community members who spoke with the Post, the New York Post on October 11th were pleased with the initiative. But they said, well, they could actually replace the police because they know sugar's going to turn to shit sooner or later. Motherfuckers are going to be dealing dope or somebody's going to get butt piked or stabbed or whatever. So a 57 year old hardware store worker who identified himself as Jose, he says the BSA do a better job because they walk. Yo, what's going on? What's the problem? Why are you doing this? And people listen.
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At the end of the day Saturday.
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A fight broke out among teenage boys with metal pipes and scooters in the designated area. And an NYPD vehicle from the 73 Precinct drove by with lights flashing as the group dispersed. Now, Hymixia Alvarez, who works at Cricket Wireless on the stretch of Mother Gaston Boulevard, he liked the idea of the community taking care of itself, but doesn't think it's a permanent solution to the area's crime problem. He says in 2025, being a cop isn't the easiest job and. But right now we need our cops. And so the idea for the BSA was first hatched by the former precinct commander, Inspector Terrell Anderson, who I'm going to officially say is a dumbass. And he recently came under fire for a scandal involving the police academy. And Anderson, who led the NYPD's candidate assessment division, was transferred to the housing unit in May as part of Internal Affairs Bureau probe that claims he allowed more than 70 candidates to stay at the academy despite all of them failing the psychological requirements yes. So you now you get. Look, those tests are there for a fucking reason, right? Several major crimes are up in the Brownsville. What? Murders and shootings. They drop by 83% and 40% respectively in the 73rd Precinct so far in 2025 compared to same time, but comparing the same time. Robbery is up 23% from 191 to 234. Felony assault is up 26% from 521 to 654. Burger is up 40% from 111 to 155. And Grand Larson is up 30% from 284 to 368.
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And they said historically this is one of the most dangerous parts of New York City. When we think about citywide shooting homicases, homicide cases, this coordinate former NYPD supervisor Christopher Herman. He's now a professor at John J's College of Criminal Justice. He said, I am not sure how designating this as a police free zone will help residents feel or actually be safer. About six hours a day, right? Anyway, the. In June 2024, two young girls, 9 11, were caught by stray bullets. And they right there in the same place, right by the zone. Yeah, but you know, it just goes on and on and on and I'm gonna end it, I'm gonna end it up and say, well I'll tell you, I'll tell you all in this one cop said. This unnamed cop said, if this is what these politicians want, let Them have it. Let it burn down, and they will want us back. Yeah. They always stay. Yeah. It's been tried everywhere. I mean, it was like Oregon. They were like, no, no police. Police free zone. We are going to have marriage counselors go out and handle domestic violence calls and shit. Yeah, they were like that. Until the police back, please.
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Yeah, exactly.
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And I mean, should I believe it or not, I had to go out on one this week. And I won't say when, where, who.
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Wow. Or how.
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Who and where, why, how.
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Yeah, I won't say any of that shit. But it was. It was destroyed and there were injuries. And you know, that happens every fucking day. That's what the cops see. And the. I was a part of this one. And thankfully, no one was dead. Right.
C
Right.
B
So anyway, I'm sorry, y'. All. That story took so long. That just is something that really moves me. It's gonna move their ass. And they're acting like it's such a big deal. They're doing it between noon and 6pm yeah. Why don't you do that from 6pm to 6am yeah. Yeah. See how that your statistics work out for you. I know those stats are down and that time in that. In those six hours because.
C
Yeah.
B
But they're up and they appear. You know why? Because there's no cops around. I'm just gonna rob.
C
Yeah.
B
Delight.
C
Yeah.
B
All right, Give us one more.
C
So many questions about that.
B
But it's time for effed up professionals lives.
C
We're going straight down the east coast from New York or Brook, Brooklyn to Deerfield Beach, Florida.
B
Okay.
C
And investigators in the Broward County Sheriff's office have arrested a man named ronison Xavier. He's 24 years old, and he is an assistant athletic coach at Highlands Christian Academy.
B
Let me ask. He's diddling the kids.
C
Yep. There's a series of charges involving sexual conduct with students.
B
Yep. There you have it.
C
According to bso, the probe began when victims families reported Xavier summoned a student to his Office on Wednesday, October 15, and inappropriately touched her. This allegedly is all over this.
B
Whatever.
C
Alleged. So I will say allegedly, whatever. Xavier is charged with three counts of soliciting and or engaging in sexual conduct with a student.
B
Must have worked for him before.
C
Two counts.
B
You just don't start out doing it.
C
Right. Two counts of lewd and lascivious molestation or conduct, and two counts of touching or striking battery.
B
Wow.
C
That means you. Battery can just be like, I touched you and you didn't want me to.
B
Unwanted touching. Yeah.
C
Again, if I touched You.
B
And when you're. When you're a kid like that, you can't consent to be touched.
C
Detectives believe there may. Obviously just like you just said, there may be additional victims.
B
You do not start out molesting. I mean his whole life is. If he's guilty, his whole life has been to get a teacher's position where he can use that position of authority to. To further his shit.
C
And he's 24.
B
Yeah, well given.
C
So that they believe there's additional victims given his close working relationship with students at the school and BSO is urging anyone with information to obviously please come forward.
B
Broward County Sheriff's Office.
C
Yeah, in the days following the initial arrest, more victims have come forward, including four more girls from the school. And the investigation is ongoing.
B
And he will be going to prison as a child molester. He's 24 years old. Do they have a picture of him? No, the. Let's just say he might be a handsome young man. They're gonna love his ass prison.
C
Right.
B
He might go to the no police zone in Brooklyn for the six hours a day where the butt fuckers are.
C
Let's just send them there.
B
I probably shouldn't say buttfuckers. This probably offends people that dude, he desires that in prison. Yeah. So there you have it. And tomorrow, hashtag just for Bradley, hashtag justice for ao. Look, gotta step up the episodes people, because it's working. Yeah, we dropped two last week and off the charts that and I'm not talking about podcast charts. I'm talking about motherfuckers going to go to prison charts.
C
Yes.
B
And who, what, when, where, why and how. I'm just letting it keep on pouring in. Yeah, right. You know, you know a lot of. But you don't know everything. The. And I know Morgan Baggett gets furious with me because I won't respond to her calls and stuff like that, but I just can't. It's not no throwing shade of Morgan. Morgan believes what she believes and. And you know is very passionate about the case and all that. A lot of people are burning parish and I just thought going to respond because if I don't respond then first of all, you don't know where I'm at. Secondly, I'm not gonna have Morgan or anybody try to get their personal confirmation by. I love the information they said and I listen to all of it. Yes I do. And the. You know this hours a night I'm listening to this stuff.
D
Right.
B
And a lot of it doesn't have dick to do with what's actually going to go down, but gotta listen to it. And that's why we're dropping these episodes. Because more and more is coming out. And again, the psychic mediums, y'. All. If you worried about my soul, don't worry about me. I'm good. I know I'm good. Okay. The. The. I'm going to use whatever I need to to get justice. And that's the way it is. Yeah. Right. People believe what they want to believe one way or another. I don't care. Doesn't affect me one way or another.
C
Right?
B
Not at all. It just doesn't. What affects me is bringing Bradley home. And he's been murdered six years this week.
C
Right?
B
A couple more days, yeah. Six years. He took his last breath, Right?
C
Yeah. And you're doing everything that you can and using everybody.
B
Hey. It's just people love, you know? Get a case solved in an hour. Which I'm not saying that the case is not Saul, but they. In the real world, you got to prove it beyond a reasonable doubt.
C
Exactly. But if the. If you were. If this was a police force. If you were back at Livingston and had this case. Right. How many. How many people. How many detectives, investigators would be working this.
B
Tons. But if I had the badge in the commission, I'd have had in handcuffs already. I'm telling y' all that that's why. And. And said why Bradley's been murdered. Murder versus coming up on six years. I'm in no rush. Yeah. I'm gonna get all information I can. And I gotta glean through it and sift through it and everybody. And there's some out there too, that are calling in bogus that I know is bogus. And just to try to throw me off.
C
Yeah.
B
You know what? You can go yourself. So I'm not gonna tell you who you are, but I know who you are. And that's okay. That's. It's not my first rodeo, but the. For the great people who are calling in the shit.
C
Yeah.
B
They're really, really great.
C
Yeah. And La Luna Bell's getting a few of her own people trying to get her off track. And she sends me a message and she's like, this person's bad. Just FYI.
B
Like, whatever. Whatever I am in this case right now. I'm the judge and the jury. And Anyway.
C
And there's no better person to do it. I know it's taxing on you. I really do.
B
Well, it's. It is what it is. I did. It'd be taxed. Until when we when people go to trial in prison. Yeah. So. All right. I got nothing else, Mia. And I'm Woody Overton.
C
I'm Cindy Overton.
B
And it's Taco Tuesday, in case you forgot.
C
I didn't forget.
B
That's the easiest thing in the world.
C
For me to make.
D
Taco Tuesday.
B
And we'll holler y' all later. Love you. Peace.
A
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Hosts: Woody Overton and Cyndi Overton
Release Date: October 28, 2025
This episode of Real Life Real Crime dives into several shocking and thought-provoking cases, ranging from the abandonment of a child in Texas, to severe juvenile crimes, community policing experiments, professional misconduct, and an update on the ongoing quest for justice in Bradley’s murder case. Hosts Woody and Cyndi Overton bring their characteristic candid, gritty, and sometimes darkly humorous storytelling style, offering unique insights born from Woody’s real-life law enforcement experiences.
Key topics include:
“In the real world, you gotta prove it beyond a reasonable doubt.” — Cyndi (46:58)
“You can be arrested for being that bad of a parent.” — Woody (08:37)
“The place was bare... all belongings and furniture were removed while the boy was at school.” — Cyndi (06:32)
“I blew on the machine and I blew a 0.14... This is a 13-year-old girl blowing four-tenths higher than I was.” — Woody (13:05)
“Talk to your kids about the dangers of drinking and unlicensed driving.” — Cyndi (14:43)
“She was later found to have a blood alcohol content of 0.301... nearly four times the legal limit.” — Cyndi (23:22)
“Prosecutors argue that she was showing off her sports car while intoxicated and that the heel stuck explanation is obvious deflection from her reckless behavior.” — Cyndi (24:39)
“So, you would think maybe you send in the men in black... Maybe we regulate the fuck out of them. In New York, they’re like, ‘We’re gonna try something a little different.’” — Woody (26:15)
“If this is what these politicians want, let them have it. Let it burn down, and they will want us back.” — Unnamed cop, quoted by Woody (39:24)
“You do not start out molesting. I mean, his whole life is... to get a teacher's position where he can use that position of authority to further his shit.” — Woody (42:52)
“Detectives believe there may... be additional victims.” — Cyndi (42:45)
Woody and Cyndi’s banter provides gritty, direct, and often irreverent commentary. Woody blends gallows humor with law enforcement grit, driven by both outrage and a deep personal sense of justice. Cyndi’s perspective brings balance, empathy, and sharp observations, echoing the collective exasperation and hope of their audience.
This episode provides insight into the emotional complexities and societal impact of crime—both notorious and obscure. It’s a tour through family dysfunction, youth risk, the limits of criminal justice experiments, and the tireless drive for justice that powers “Real Life Real Crime.” Through a series of engaging and disturbing real cases, Woody and Cyndi Overton not only tell stories, but call listeners to care, participate, and never accept easy answers.