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Woody Overton
Hello, everybody, and welcome to this episode of True Crime time for Thursday, October 9th, 2025. And I'm Woody Overton.
Cindy Overton
I'm Cindy Overton.
Woody Overton
Time for some crime time. Crime news stories. All kinds of good shit, right? Hashtag just for Bradley. Hashtag just for ao. Y' all hear this every day. Please continue to call in your tips. 313rlrc tip. And if the powers that be in Vernon Parish want me to shut the fuck up about it. And then they need to do their jobs and make an arrest. But until then, I'm going to keep bringing it to you. Y' all keep sending your tips and we'll keep dropping bombs, of course. Hashtag just Ms. Barbara Blunt. Hashtag just for Haley is coming. But what do you have for today, mama?
Cindy Overton
I'm starting off in Rochester Hills, Michigan.
Woody Overton
All right.
Cindy Overton
And there was a man and an accomplice and they've been convicted of murdering a 72 year old jewelry store owner after posing as utility workers.
Woody Overton
All right.
Cindy Overton
And it was. He was a jewelry store owner, but they invaded his home looking for jewels, I guess. I guess. Prosecutors say that Carlos Jose Hernandez and Joshua Zalzo carried out the October 2024 attack on Hussein Murray, who was a respected jeweler and longtime resident of Roch Chester Hills. The two men suspected Gerald. Did I say suspected A lot? Respected.
Woody Overton
Respect. Okay.
Cindy Overton
The two men posed as dte, which is like their Demco Energy company.
Woody Overton
Power company.
Cindy Overton
That's right. Their energy employees claiming to check for a gas leak to gain into Murray's home. Once inside, they bound Murray's wife with Duct tape. They forced Murray into the basement and fatally assaulted him before stealing jewelry and cash. The story doesn't end there. During the trial, prosecutors presented text messages between Hernandez and his own wife, Amanda, that in the days that led up to the crime. And one of the text messages read in quotes, we can have a nice backyard, which prosecutors argued reflected encouragement and excitement over the potential financial gain from the planned robbery. Other messages referenced turning off phones and meeting afterward, and prosecutors say that those communications demonstrate her awareness of the plot. The defense, however, countered that the text did not show any intent to kill, noting that none of the messages mentioned violence, murder, or weapons. Defense attorneys also argued that the communications were being misinterpreted and that Amanda was not involved in the planning or execution of the crime. I don't know where she thought that they were going to get a nice backyard now and the meeting place and all of that, but in court, Murray's wife testified that the men entered the home wearing reflective vests and carrying clipboards, appearing to be utility workers. She said they tied her up with duct tape and demanded to know where money and jewelry were kept. When her husband resisted, which, as a jewelry owner, you know, as a jewelry store owner, if he had had Woody Overton consulting, he wouldn't have resisted. He would not have resisted, give your.
Woody Overton
Shit up so you don't die.
Cindy Overton
And unfortunately, because he resisted, he was found beaten and dead in the basement.
Woody Overton
They probably. Probably didn't resist, or, where's the jury? And then they beat his ass until he told them.
Cindy Overton
That's true, too, because. Right. So the medical examiner determined he died of asphyxia caused by compression of the neck, and his injuries included fractures to the throat area. So they had separate trials, Hernandez and Zalzo, but they were both found guilty of first degree murder, home invasion, and unlawful imprisonment in each faces a mandatory sentence of life in prison without parole. But Amanda, the wife who was central to the prosecution's narrative, she's not been charged with any crime as of, like, today. So prosecutors have not indicted or have not indicated whether further charges are being considered.
Woody Overton
Wow. Yeah. Michigan. I do not. Yeah, they definitely don't have the death penalty.
Cindy Overton
Well, how culpable is she, though?
Woody Overton
I don't have any idea. I mean, she partook in it, right?
Cindy Overton
Yeah.
Woody Overton
So just that in Louisiana, she would be just as guilty.
Cindy Overton
Right.
Woody Overton
So. And, you know, imagine being in your own home, working your whole life, building your business and some that couldn't get a job doing anything or doesn't want to get a job doing anything. Just Decides to rob you and kill you. Yeah. Have a nice backyard. So well, well, well. And that special. It's time for effed up professionals going out to South Carolina and the sheriff's deputy. This dude was given 20 years of service and not now he won't make 21 because he got fired. You know what he did? This is the badge. Feel like a man. Cause this is so stupid. So William Billy Squires had been a deputy with the Beaufort Beaufort County Sheriff's office since 2005 and his ass got fired on Friday morning after an internal investigation revealed several policy violations including insubordination, misuse of force, and appearing intoxicated in a public. In public while armed. So what happened in the Hilton Head neighborhood last Sunday, which is where Squires lives. The according to witnesses. And of course now everybody has it. Video evidence which the investigators got to review. Squires was not on duty and not in an official uniform. He intervened in a dispute which between some teens. Like they're arguing and he draws his service weapon without justification or proper protocol. In the video, Squires can be seen aiming his gun at three teens in turn. Meaning like, yeah, right, pointing at their head. I mean, what, what world do you live in? 20 years on the job and you're doing this? But it continues. Each of the teens appear to be terrified as no explanation is given as to why they are being held at gunpoint and forced to lie on the ground. Right. I said looking at the video, it was appalling to see. And I can also see how the average citizen that sees that video and just goes into shock as to what they see. According to Sheriff P.J. tanner, who confirmed the firing and publicly condemned the innocent sheriff said the department took swift disciplinary action and formally requested the revocation of Squires state law enforcement certification with the South Carolina Criminal Justice Academy. He said bad decisions have consequences and unfortunately for Squires, this is a consequence. Now, according to Tanner, Squires refused to submit to a breathalyzer test when fellow deputies suspected he had been drinking. Right. The refusal in itself is insubordination. They give you the order, you got to do it right? They said. Sheriff said, that's not tolerated. We have a standing policy. You do not police your own neighborhood. Just don't do it. And you surely don't get involved in any kind of police action if you've been consuming alcohol. In another breach protocol, the body worn camera Squires was issued which was attached to his vest, was not activated once he put on that vest and started in the acting in the capacity as an on duty officer then he's required to have his body camera on the sheriff Tanner said. So a criminal investigation by South Carolina law enforcement division or sled their state police basically is now underway and could result in charges against the former deputy and said additional consequences may be coming Sheriff Tanner and he declined to speculate further in order to preserve the integrity of the sleds investigation. But he emphasized that internal affairs and criminal investigations follow separate legal standards than they do and people don't know that but like if you get investigated by internal affairs they have to read you your police officer bill of rights versus a regular bill of rights and it could be, you know you could be found guilty of just department violations and then if it crosses over there's some legal laws that's a totally separate thing that laws that have been broken. Now while sheriff office employees are compelled to answer questions under administrative rules sled's criminal probe must be must observe the Miranda rights to due process mean you have the right to shut the fuck up and not say anything. Right? If you could you could be led for you being charged with a crime you. He said there's always three sides to every story. There's the truth, there's a lie and somewhere in the middle you'll find the facts. And we are fact finders now. Sheriff Tanner said Squires had served in apartment for 19 years with very few incidents in his personnel file. The sheriff himself had hired him in September of 2005. He said my four to five years in law enforcement and almost 27 years of sheriff nothing really surprises me. I mean I hate to say it that way and I'm not downplaying this in any manner but what I saw was horrible. Tanner also stressed how the majority of his deputies uphold the values of public service. But the common sense sometimes falters, he said. I would like to say and I think I'm probably 99.9 sure that most of the employees at the Beaufort County Sheriff's office are blessed with common sense sometimes 99.9% that always at 1% of sometimes things happens and that common sense is just not working as good as it should and it leads them into areas and to make bad decisions. And again bad decisions have consequences and you know, unfortunately for Squires this is the consequence. So Mr. Squire is not only are they firing him usually I hate to say that but it's true that a lot of times the agencies I guess this is our allerdenus or whatever. A lot of times agencies will just say hey just go ahead and resign. You go ahead and resign, and we won't say anything negative about you, which you. Technically, they. At least on Louisiana law, they can't.
Cindy Overton
Right.
Woody Overton
So, like, if I'm a sheriff and I call the. To check on this guy's background from another apartment, if they have anything negative to say, all they can say is he's not rehirable. They can't tell you because he's out shooting up, having sex with a dog. And, well, that. That's a criminal charge because he was an. To somebody or didn't turn on his camera, whatever the violations may be, then they pass on down the road like that and let it be somebody else's problem. Yeah. But not in this case. They pull in this hole in Louisiana's post certification, and there it's whatever.
Cindy Overton
Yeah.
Woody Overton
Meaning you will no longer work as a cop in this state.
Cindy Overton
Yeah.
Woody Overton
There you have it. Through your whole career down the drain. Because at what point do you think if you drunk as a cop and you pull your pistol and make kids get on the ground that you're asking, go get in a crack.
Podcast Host
His.
Cindy Overton
His common sense went out the window.
Woody Overton
I'd like to think that 99.9% of my deputies have common sense.
Cindy Overton
Well, when you were reading it, I was also thinking about, like, he said that the guy had very few infractions or whatever in his file over the course of the 20 years.
Woody Overton
Yeah.
Cindy Overton
Even the. The stuff that you did, like, you were always called on the carpet. I was caught on the carpet. But how much of that went into a file? Exactly. So what kind of stuff do you.
Woody Overton
Until I was the state police. Then they put some of the files.
Cindy Overton
But those are fake. Those were fake.
Woody Overton
Those, like, they got reported. That's the difference, I think. You know, like the Internal affairs division and. And all that. That's all they do is. Is. And I hate to say that, but some of them, you know, just. Look, they. They. They get made investigators and they really don't know dick about investigating. They come straight from the road and writing tickets and. And then they get off on. Oh, God. It's a case. It's a complaint. It must be true. I'm gonna get this motherfucker. I'm like, Bruh. Yeah. When 99.9% of them have common sense. Right. Not every one of them is going to be guilty. It's also your job to exonerate them. If they can be exonerated.
Cindy Overton
Yeah.
Woody Overton
So there you have it.
Cindy Overton
Yeah.
Woody Overton
I don't know. But lay out another one.
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Cindy Overton
In 2023, we had a problem out of Sonic.
Woody Overton
Well, let's. Let's talk about Sonic for a minute. I don't think I've ever rated my fast food choices.
Cindy Overton
You have personally, with. I don't know if you have on the show.
Woody Overton
Yeah, yeah. And Sonic. All right. Obviously, McDonald's has the best french fries. Burger King has better burgers than McDonald's.
Cindy Overton
Yeah.
Woody Overton
I would think Sonic burgers are probably better than McDonald's, but maybe not as good as Burger King.
Cindy Overton
Okay.
Woody Overton
But I do like their tots. They're not as good as McDonald's french fries, but I like Sonic's tots.
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Woody Overton
It's good hangover food.
Cindy Overton
What about Burger King tots?
Woody Overton
I don't know if I've ever had them. Okay. Or maybe I've had them for breakfast or something. But it's not like a Burger King's. Fries have gotten a lot better. But I don't eat a lot of fast food. You know that. But sometimes you had to. Now, the Sonic burgers, the. Everything used to be so cheap. You can get it like the dollar menu at McDonald's and all that, or the Dollar Rodeo Burger at Burger King with the onion ring on top of barbecue sauce. Some are like $4 now, I think.
Cindy Overton
They'Re more than that.
Woody Overton
Yeah. I don't know because it's been years since I've been to one. But the last time I went to the Sonic, like the one in Clinton, the fucking. The cheapest thing on the menu is like 2.99. It's a little bit thing. Wouldn't feed a cat.
Cindy Overton
I know. And what about the dogs? Like the Coney, like the.
Woody Overton
You know, I've had them like, I've had them like twice.
Cindy Overton
I'm asking for the viewers.
Woody Overton
They're not lucky dogs. You want the best hot dog in the world? Go to Newton's. Get you a lucky dog. Yeah, right.
Cindy Overton
Yeah.
Woody Overton
Legit.
Cindy Overton
Yeah.
Woody Overton
All right, so. All right, well, so sauna's got pretty good drinks though. They got that good ice.
Cindy Overton
They do have good ice. And they now have a fancy. But don't go to the one in Clinton. Sorry.
Woody Overton
But that one in Clinton sucks though. I know it's under new management and all that, but look, every stall you pull in is either broke or whatever. And you order your food and you know, it's a show.
Cindy Overton
You know I love my fancy coffee, right? So Sonic now has a new salted caramel toffee crunch cold brew coffee. That is amazing. But don't get it in Clinton.
Woody Overton
Okay. I'm going to one in Clinton anyway. All right, lay it out. Sonic.
Cindy Overton
Sonic. In Keene, Texas, there was a patron named Jasmine Marmalejo.
Woody Overton
Love our patron convicts.
Cindy Overton
She was 20 and she has been sentenced to 25 years in prison after pleading guilty for her role in the 2023 shooting of a Sonic employee. The Sonic employee was actually shot by her 12 year old nephew. All right, But Jasmine is the one that told him to go shoot the Sonic employee.
Woody Overton
My mom would say if your friends all jumped off a bridge.
Cindy Overton
Right. So according to court records and local coverage, the incident stemmed from a dispute after. Ashley or Jas. I said it's Ashley. Jasmine Marmalejo. After she urinated in the parking lot of the Sonic.
Woody Overton
That's. There's nothing shows class like taking a piss, especially as a female.
Cindy Overton
Right.
Woody Overton
In the Sonic parking lot. Sev just oozes class.
Cindy Overton
Yeah, I don't know why they would be upset. Right, well, another patron confronted her about it, leading to a physical altercation with an employee, Matthew Davis. Marmalejo texted her nephew instructions to go shoot the employee. She then handed him the weapon and then fled the scene. So the 12 year old boy was left there and he fired multiple shots, which killed Davis during the legal Proceedings. Marmalejo accepted a plea of agreement on the charge of murder for providing the firearm. And she didn't stand trial for other things that they had charged her with. They call them enhancements. Obviously, you know that. But the court heard testimony and reviewed evidence, including text messages and cell phone data, supporting the claim that Marmalejo had manipulated and armed her nephew to commit the killing. Davis's family and community officials called the crime especially shocking due to the young age of the shooter and the apparent orchestration by an adult relative. I mean, she's 20 years old. I mean, she's not like 18, you know, like, there's a line when you hit, you kind of obey. Exactly right. So she will serve out her sentence in state prison. And the young shooter was trialed as a juvenile, and he was previously convicted in juvenile court. He was sentenced to 12 years in the Texas Juvenile Justice Department. Department. So if your. If your aunt tells you to go get a gun.
Woody Overton
If your aunt tells you to go jump off a bridge, Same stupidity. It's time for Worldwide Crime. About to tell you a story about a British man.
Cindy Overton
British.
Woody Overton
Who is dead AF in Dubai. Okay. All right. So he's. You know, there's nothing cheap in Dubai, right? I'm sure they don't have Holiday Inns or. Not that those are cheap, but I know they don't have Motel Sixes, Dubai being probably the richest country in the world. But this British dude, he was found dead in a hotel room in Dubai. You know why? He flew from UAE at Manchester Airport. And before he got on the plane there, what did he do?
Cindy Overton
Stole something. Got in a fight with somebody.
Woody Overton
He swallowed several packages of drugs, right? Okay. So I used to watch all those shows and stuff about him. People get sent to prison. They give you $10,000 to go have a holiday. All you gotta do is bring back a package, right? A lot of times they make them swallow that shit and they go to search them and, oh, I got nothing. And they take it for the X ray machine, and they can see the packages in there, and they put them in a room till they shit. And once they shit it out, I wouldn't want that job and just collect it. They're whatever. But, you know, I'm pretty sure in Dubai, they kill you. You get the death penalty for drugs, right? So anyway, the. The. The people that do that, they call them mules. The. You always. Yeah, the cops would tell them on these shows that I watch it like that. That bursts inside of you. You're dead. Right. Well, that's what happened to this dude? He swallowed all that dope up in the stomach and one of the packs burst open and he. This guy's name is Jensen, Jensen Westhead, and he's 20 years old. And he was discovered dead at Hotel Avalon in Dubai on December 4 of 2024. Now, four people have since been charged with drug offenses and will appear in court later this month. Rebecca Hatch, Glenn Hatch, Alexander Tofton, and Stephen Stevenson have all been charged with conspiracy to fraudulently evade the prohibition of exportation of a class A drug. Stevenson faces further charges of being involved in the supply of cocaine, and all four will appear before Lancaster magistrate courts. I guess that's in England on October 31. Now, Dubai operates one of the world's strictest regimens against drugs, with anyone found with even a trace of banned substances potentially facing jail time. But the maximum sentence is death. I should put that on the wall of Dubai. But even though I don't need to know. So anyway, he was part of this, these, this crew they're running dog. Could you imagine how expensive drugs are in Dubai? Yeah, but I guess everybody there's got enough money to do it.
Cindy Overton
Yeah.
Woody Overton
And. But I mean, and they do it just like everywhere else in the world. And like that case I had in New Orleans. Not New Orleans in Baton Rouge, but the guy from over there ran over the dude on a levee. And then when the cops got after him, his daddy, who's a prince of whatever, flew in a private jet wisdom way. Now he's got a murder warrant and it'll never get served.
Cindy Overton
Yeah.
Woody Overton
So. But I don't know. Don't be flying to Dubai with cocaine in your gut.
Cindy Overton
When I was.
Woody Overton
Sooner or later, it's not gonna end well.
Cindy Overton
Right. When I was little, it was like the first I say little, like my formative years, like when my dad was doing all the talks with me, I called him S D. Sex and drugs. It's like all the time, like. And when that stuff started to begin to be found is like all the little balloons, you know?
Woody Overton
Yeah, because it evolved, you know, before that, I don't know how they did it, but before that, that was for TSA and all that. The big deal was they called them stewardess at the time. Whatever. Or pilots would carry their shit on because their luggage didn't get checked. Nobody's luggage got checked back then.
Cindy Overton
Nobody's. Yeah. So he was again living in Laredo as a blond hair, blue eyed girl. He was always afraid that I was going to be taken and you know, like I've told you before, I had to memorize tattoos and I had to know all of these different things. But one of his biggest fears was they were going to use me as a mule because no one's going to look at this young girl going through, you know, whatever, to get on a plane or to go across the border. You know what I mean?
Woody Overton
That's actually not true. You're so far off base at that train. Yeah, they train. Now, the most suspicious person if you're working drug interdiction on the interstate is a female traveling by herself.
Cindy Overton
But we're talking. You search years ago.
Woody Overton
Search her. Shit. Yes. Well, they. Why do you think that's a policy? Because Exactly. They found out. Exactly.
Cindy Overton
Exactly.
Woody Overton
Your ass would have got arrested when.
Cindy Overton
I was 8 or 10. No one was going to look at me. You know what I mean? That type of thing is what his. What their. Their logic was at that time. And then at that time also, if I'm crossing the border and they're like, you know, what's your name? And I said, paraguay, they would have known. You know what I mean? Like, it was just different times. Anyway, thank goodness none of that happened to me. But I'm gonna now take you.
Woody Overton
It's time for family matters.
Cindy Overton
I think that lots of people do some crazy things when they are getting a divorce.
Woody Overton
Yeah. Well, I'll tell you about divorces. The tower really went through, like a really, really, really bad one. Not that any of them are good. The. I never understood why you'd want to kill your significant other. Because I was going through mine. It actually crossed my mind it'd be just much easier to kill this. Right? Anyway, yeah, people do crazy during divorces.
Cindy Overton
So there's a woman named Kristen Emily Hogan in ridgefield, Connecticut. She's 33 years old, and she's been arrested and charged with two counts of attempted murder and interfering with an officer after poisoning her. Poisoning leftover wine and iced tea that her estranged husband drank.
Woody Overton
Well, he should have not been staying with her.
Cindy Overton
That's not how it happened. This is how crazy she is. So according to the arrest warrant, the victim had hosted. The estranged husband had hosted a dinner party on August 5th. And there was like a partially consumed bottle of wine. He put the cork back on it, put it back in the fridge. A few days later, on August 7th, Hogan and her estranged husband had a court appearance because they were going through, like, a custody dispute. Well, she failed to appear. But while he's in court, he's there, she's not. His phone received an alert that his home WI fi had been connected to. You know, we get, like, especially not here on this WI fi, but, like, at one of our other houses, what was. Whatever our WI fi was, I would get an alert on the phone saying, such and such device connected to your Internet. So that kind of. That happened with him at his residence. Well, he didn't think anything of it, that someone had connected to his WI fi. He's in court. She wasn't there. He goes home, he drinks some wine. Come to find out she was the one that broke into his house and poisoned his wine and poisoned the iced tea during when she was supposed to be in court. So on August 10th, the victim consumed.
Woody Overton
Fucking stupid. People are so fucking stupid.
Cindy Overton
The wine and became gravely ill. He was vomiting, staggering, and showing signs of poisoning. He was hospitalized and required dialysis after doctors determined he had ethylene glycol poisoning. And that's what's found in antifreeze. Forensic testing confirmed the presence of that in the wine. So investigators subpoena Hogan's cell phone and Internet activity and uncovered the wife's uncovered searches of monothylene glycol, potassium cyanide, and queries about how much of those substances would kill you.
Woody Overton
Prisons are full of dumm.
Cindy Overton
The warrant also notes searches of failing to appear at court and other suspicious behavior. Yeah, well, when questioned by detectives, I.
Woody Overton
Mean, why can't you just get yourself a burner phone and search that? I. If I was going to kill you, if I'm going to kill you, then nobody's ever going to find the shit in my search engine. It's just not.
Cindy Overton
That's scary. Hogan initially denied wrongdoing, claiming she had used the chemical to clean the carpet at her mother's home. And later, she did admit to pouring the chemical in the wine and iced tea, but said she never intended to kill her husband. Her goal was to make him sick in retaliation during their contentious custody.
Woody Overton
Okay, that's still fucking attempted murder. I know.
Cindy Overton
So the warrant states that Hogan denied that their child was exposed. However, the child did exhibit similar symptoms and at one point had to be hospitalized. So she is being held on a $1 million bond.
Woody Overton
Kid was drinking some wine. Tea.
Cindy Overton
Well, remember, was also in the iced tea.
Woody Overton
I don't know too many kids that drink iced tea. Oh, I know a lot of kids drink ice tea.
Cindy Overton
Wl in la used to love some iced tea teas. Okay.
Woody Overton
I said I don't know many kids that drink iced tea, but I know a lot that drink wine.
Cindy Overton
Yeah, okay. That's Crazy court appearance is October 9th.
Woody Overton
That's just a day away. Yeah, so maybe they'll have her some iced tea and wine.
Cindy Overton
I'd like be there.
Woody Overton
The wine is fine. Have a sip, honey, and then maybe you go see Jesus. All right, I'm going to tell you a crazy story that we're going to go back to November 28th of 2009 and had this dude named Larry Eli Murillo Monacata. All right? And believe it or not, we're not in South America. We're going to Council Bluffs, Iowa.
Cindy Overton
Okay, you think?
Woody Overton
Not too much goes on the Council Bluffs, Iowa, except maybe some good hunting around the area, right? A lot of corn and shit maybe. Well, this dude Larry, he was declared missing on November 28, 2009, when his parents had grown concerned after he fled his home in a distressed state, barefoot, during a blizzard, without his keys and car. And he never returned. Yeah, exactly. Right. And the plot thickens. Well, O' Larry was 25 years old at the time and he was employed at the no frills supermarket in Council Bluffs, Iowa.
Cindy Overton
That's a name.
Woody Overton
That's a fucking name, right? I mean like, can you say don't come shop here anymore, restocking your own shelves? Yeah, don't come shop here.
Cindy Overton
Three wheel buggies, right?
Woody Overton
All right, so is there anything worse than a buggy? I can't tell you now, you know, now I don't. You do all the shopping? I hardly ever do it, but if I. It seems like every time I go to do shopping I pull the one that goes.
Cindy Overton
And to be honest, that's one of the reasons why I do not like going inside the store at all.
Woody Overton
I'm pretty sure you still go there. All right, so see, he's gone in a snowstorm, no shoes, no car, no keys, et cetera. And they start searching for him, right? But guess what?
Cindy Overton
They don't find him.
Woody Overton
Not a trace. Buried in snow, not a trace. So his family had little to console them following his vanishing. And indeed, it simply seemed as though he had disappeared into thin air on that day. Okay, Gone forever. All right. The. According to the BBC, relatives of Larry had revealed that he was suffering from hallucinations at the time as a disappearance. They said he was hearing voices that said, eat sugar. Yeah, exactly. And this his mama said, be a translator, of course, you know, I guess he's Mexican or whatever. I don't know. I mean, he's definitely Hispanic. They said he felt his heart was beating too hard and thought if he ate sugar, his Heart would not beat so hard. Well, okay. Now according to the Council Bluff's police captain Todd Weedham, Larry's parents believed that he was possibly acting strangely due to the medication he was taking. Now fast forward 10 years. This is, this is a crime without being a crime. Ten years. A tragic discovery changes everything in 2019. The. The. The store's workers at the no frills whatever the stores workers, the. They found old boy's remains at the local supermarket in Council Bluffs where he had worked the no frills supermarket. 10 years later his body was discovered wedged in an 18 inch gap between the cooler and the wall.
Cindy Overton
Oh, okay.
Woody Overton
10. It's. Remember this is no frills.
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Woody Overton
We don't have air. Fresh up on this. There's no frills. Right. I smash them people like it stinks over there, it's stanky over there. And they'll be like Vincent, you're gonna know frills. Right? So anyway, as per the reports, Larry's corpse was found by a group of workers who had been ordered to remove shells and coolers. The store had been shut for three years at this point and. But it didn't matter. Still, he was there for seven years for that and the premises were being clear. They used DNA collected from his parents and the Iowa Division of Criminal Investigation were able to identify it was definitely Larry's body. The clothing on his body also match what he was said to have been wearing at the time of his disappearance. Sansa shoes. And according to the Des Moines Register, Larry's death was ruled accidental. Now investigators looking into the accident concluded that Larry had gone into the supermarket after leaving his family's home and he climbed atop the store's coolers.
Cindy Overton
Okay.
Woody Overton
Yeah. He didn't have a shoes on and there he must have fallen into the gap between the units and the wall, tragically becoming trapped in the process. This is bizarre, just bizarre. Sergeant, that makes you. Every time you walk in a store now you can think of a dead body behind the cooler.
Cindy Overton
Exactly.
Woody Overton
Sergeant Brandon Danielson said it would have been a 12 foot wall while the noise of the freezer units would have been so loud there was probably no way anyone heard him.
Cindy Overton
That said.
Woody Overton
So they're saying he didn't die immediately.
Cindy Overton
Yeah.
Woody Overton
Remember this is no frills but our coolers aren't quiet. We're not paying the next 20. We're not paying the next 25 cents a month.
Cindy Overton
Generators running.
Woody Overton
Yeah. So you have to be. You have to wear earmuffs when you go in the store. Right. So you open the door if you.
Cindy Overton
Get grocery store feet. That's why you didn't have shoes on.
Woody Overton
Well, maybe so, but they, they said our heads are spinning finding this out after so many years and it is distressing. It makes us feel a lot of pain. Said Larry's father, Victor Mirrors after the discovery of his son in 2019. He said they closed the building. The freezers weren't working anymore. So how can a body just be there? Well, former staff members claimed they had reported a terrible smell coming from the freezer units, though their complaints were repeatedly. This mess die because this is no frills. You think people work there complain? I'm sure some shoppers complain and they said no frills, so you just gotta smell it.
Cindy Overton
So if people complained, employees complained, probably customers complain to management and management didn't look at it. Are they. Well, the guy was already dead. If they could smell it. I was going to say, are they responsible? That's a silly question.
Woody Overton
Yeah, pretty silly question. The fact is, the whole story, the whole enchilada is. I mean, it was snowing outside, so I imagine they have the heat on. Even though it's a no frill store. I don't imagine it's sub zero temperatures in there. And the people complain over time about the stank coming from behind the cooler. Hey, nobody looked.
Cindy Overton
Exactly.
Woody Overton
I mean, it doesn't matter. The dude's already dead. But that. The crime in my mind is you rot it behind a cooler for 10 years. Think of how many thousands of people walk past and were open the cooler he was in. They're like opening up. Let me get a TV dinner. Open it up. There's no frills. That smells bad. I. I'm not gonna eat it.
Cindy Overton
Can you. That's so sad.
Woody Overton
And at least they found them.
Cindy Overton
Yeah, got some answers.
Woody Overton
But evidently there was nothing left. But it's clothes and literally a bag of bones. Yeah, gotta test it by DNA.
Cindy Overton
That's so sad.
Woody Overton
That is a crazy story. Yeah, there you have it. I got nothing else. Yeah, well, I don't want to with anything after that. Old Larry behind the cooler in the no frills supermarket.
Cindy Overton
No, it is.
Woody Overton
Let's see if that even exists anymore. No frills supermarket. Here's what I found. Holy. It really exists. The. This one's in Canada.
Cindy Overton
It's like Santa Claus.
Woody Overton
No frills Canadian grocery store. Shop online for pickup and delivery. No frills grocery store. Wikipedia. Let's look this up. I just want to read about it because I just. Maybe I want to go to no frills. No frills. Currently styled no frills. All one word and formerly styled no frills, lower case, no words. This is a Canadian chain of discount supermarkets owned by blah blah blah, blah blah. There are over 300 franchise stores located in nine Canadian provinces. Well, no frills supermarket council bless hour.
Cindy Overton
I found this on the web.
Woody Overton
Yeah, all it is is all about the his body. Let's see. Larry became pretty famous for being the guy and they said the store closed permanently on three on March 14th of 2016. It was bought out by another Spartan, Nash Grocers and blah blah blah. One review on Yelp's Scat. Four stars. It says this store may not be fancy, but they had the best fried chicken in town. And I will continue to come here for the fried chicken. I'm just staying the away from that nasty ass corner where that dude's rotten.
Cindy Overton
Wow.
Woody Overton
She did. She did say that about the fried chicken, but nothing about Larry. But anyway, I'm Woody Overtone.
Cindy Overton
I'm Cindy Overton.
Woody Overton
We love all y'.
Cindy Overton
All.
Woody Overton
Thank you for everything. Thank you for continuing to like and listen and share and you know, the numbers don't lie. We're almost a year old and it's a success. They like what we're doing, Mama.
Cindy Overton
I know.
Hosts: Woody Overton and Cindy Overton
Release Date: October 9, 2025
This episode of “True Crime Time For” dives into a wild mix of true crime stories, spanning murder for profit, police misconduct, family-driven tragedy, international drug smuggling gone fatal, and a decade-old missing persons case with an unforgettable twist. Hosts Woody and Cindy Overton deliver the stories with their signature blend of dark humor and unfiltered commentary, offering both the tragic and the bizarre sides of real crime cases.
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Each story is handled as a standalone segment, with Woody and Cindy exchanging sharp, irreverent commentary, drawing on Woody’s law enforcement background and Cindy’s personal anecdotes to ground the stories. The episode’s tone vacillates between the somber, the incredulous, and the darkly hilarious, in keeping with the pod’s reputation for “twisted, gruesome, sometimes funny, but always true” crime storytelling.
This episode is packed with shocking twists, black comedy, and genuine insight into criminal psychology and law enforcement culture—perfect for listeners who relish both the human tragedy and the absurdity at the heart of real-life crime.